Turbo vs. Supercharged Camry

[nihonkokusai]

2.2L gearbox is too long in ratio. 3L one is way shorter!

[FevaFordaFlava]

Both are slow as fuck

[rymonkey007]

could someone please direct me to the owner of the supercharged camry i would like a sumary of parts ive been looking to do this with my wifes camry for a couple years now

[TheLocomoco753]

i love how people talk shit about our camry's

[PsykoWaffle]

It's kind of hard to call this a compare vid, youre comparing a supercharged v6 to a turbocharged 4cyl, ones in kmph ones in mph, to be a compare vid you should have both platforms start the exact same otherwise your results could be as far from the truth as you can get, not hating, just stating.

[ROCKSyoutub]

I prefer superchargers for alot of reasons. Simpler design, fewer parts, no lag etc. The only downside I can see from supercharging is a little increased fuel consumption. With gas prices the way they are, maybe that's a big deal to some.

Just my opinion.

[ROCKSyoutub]

Both of them are pretty damned quick for Camrys. Not bad.

[maciejczerny]

I can't see any logical argument comparing these two cars. It doesn't show the difference of charging method but the difference of 2.2 R4 and 3.0 V6. Where the 3.0 gains 50HP!!! at the begining. Acceleration 0 - 60 MPH ~1 sec difference. No sense at all....

[LetsGetMoney214]

i own a camry...this gives me hope...hahahaha

[lambodp]

The video was ok, but it's obvious that superchargers are quicker, but tend to be less powerful in topend. It was a good comparison though.

[creativeconscious]

well of course the supercharged 1mz is faster it damn well better be. its a six cylinder the 5fste is and inline four. this wasnt much of a comparison.

[ApSykesThewolf]

EARTHQUAKEEEEE

[Solaris2291]

lol, a fucking Camry? are you serious???... well I guess a middle age woman would appreciate a little extra HP when she drives the kids to school, lol.

[x16900]

why would you do either one to a camry?

[twisted5abi]

@x16900 cause no one expects you to beat them in a camry....

[twisted5abi]

the blue was in kmph and the other was mph

[jaimeeIx3399]

@twisted5abi learn how to read it, its still slower.



[twisted5abi]

@jaimeeIx3399 what the fuck are you bitching about... do you have any idea what i was taking about

[Davidmp101]

readin these comments makes me sick. he was just filming a comparison video ya trolls. and some of you are just like...oh ya try to beat my car. ah aha. sickening

[AyukaXRen]

nice video....

btw,,try beat my Levin AE86 4AGE engines with Supercharger...ahaha...

[xXxDANMANxXx]

If I was a race car driver Supercharger > Turbocharger, but for everything else I love turbos, I know a lot more about them, I like how they work, I like the sound better, it's fun to feel the lag sometimes because you can feel exactly what kind of power it makes and I like BOV's :D

[exinco]

nice findings

[justythrasher]

My standard GTi corolla would smoke both of those. Red top 4AGE yeaaaa.

[r3demption91]

Theres no better one, Superchargers drain the engine of power becuase the crank pulley has to give up some power to run the supercharger and run less boost then turbos, Turbos are hot because there powered by the exhaust gasses and have lag, There both as bad as eachother but both as good as eachother, Whether which one is good for your car depends on your setup and engine.. So you cunts saying 1 is better then the other fuk up u dont know shit.

[mageac]

@r3demption91 newer turbos have much less lag then they used to although

[wilbeckj]

I'm deciding if I should buy a 1991 Nissan 300zx Twin turbo, or buy a 1991 Nissan 300zx, and supercharge it.... what are your opinions?

[rizegraymon1]

@wilbeckj twin turbo faster then superchagrinign it less expenisve to

[danny1760]

yeah you guys are right camrys are not supposed to look like this... why u think they call it the le??? luxary edition!! if u wanna see a clean ass 95 camry add me on fb danny91_oside@yahoo.com... 95camry le 100k leather interior pearl white paint chrome toyota rims alpine system clean car no scratches or dents

[bkboy747]

ahahahaha its a camry

[Amardeep661]

camry haha with turbo how fast you planning on getting to church?

[mj20042]

Why would you put a turbo or a supercharger on a Camry anyway? It's the same problem with Civics. It's a FWD economy car, not a race car.

[mcsteve9a]

@mj20042 to be different

[mj20042]

@mcsteve9a Different doesn't have to equate to stupid, though.

[ST165SLEEPER]

So your comparing 2 different engines let's do a turbo 1MZFE at 6 psi and get a 6 psi pulley kit for that same v6 camry  Overall nice vid just needs to be even. And I have seen the rev2 5s hit 300whp on a stock block. Hella tuning tho lol

[lostagne]

someone got any idea if you can get supercharger to the 3vzfe?

[ADYHAX]

yo vtech, but srsly y buy cheap ones nd invest in em y not buy xle already has 100 extr hp

[Kolokoi26]

wut u guys think if tranfer those mods on 3sfe u guys it will work?

[canuckaholic91]

@Kolokoi26 3s-fe will go boom. really thin rods compared to the 5s-fe

[Kolokoi26]

@canuckaholic91 but i got 2.2 head on my 3sfe i got headers on and 2.5 straight pipe i always go red line doesnt go boom, soo i decide put turbo then luckly i found a perfect ct26 turbo in junk yard.... soo wut u think i should do?

[Kolokoi26]

@canuckaholic91 but i got 2.2 head on my 3sfe i got headers on and 2.5 straight pipe i always go red line doesnt go boom, soo i decide put turbo then luckly i found a perfect ct26 turbo in junk yard.... soo wut u think i should do?

[canuckaholic91]

@Kolokoi26 doesn't matter if you have whatever headers or exhaust. it also doesn't matter what head you have on the 3s-fe. it's the bottom end you need to be worried about, the rods in the 3s-fe are simply too weak to be forced inducted. it's not going boom right now, but once you push roughly 170-180hp, it will blow, in my opinion, not worth the hassle of building up a FE for only those numbers and making it really unreliable.

[Kolokoi26]

@Kolokoi26 cuz i have 3sfe with 2.2 cyclinder head... and i found a perfect ct26 turbo... i dont know what to do can u help me?

[jaydendrums111]

The supercharger was better. Suprising

[Jah2070]

I think the supercharged camry sounds more agressive

[joshisthebestwooha20]

I have a 5s-fe. It's dangerously slow :D V6 Camrys are the only way to go for any kind of performance :)

[jordanm9]

both are slow

[lainahtan13]

Supercharger ftw!

[Kanoshe]

post some more man get a freind to ride with you and do the recording and come on let's see em fly from outside the car

[TheJesse1988]

Hey man what's up I was just wonder what kinda stuff you did to the supercharged cam and how much boost it had I have one to but a 98

[rolliepollie94]

@TheJesse1988 0:53 my man haha ;P

[homefly9200]

they went about the same speed the first car was on kph on the toyota is mph

[JayByrd319]

race?

[ballader1]

the best thing is TSI, Turbo Charger PLUS SuperCharger. 

[Duckieskickurass]

My camry is a lot better! You'll be jealous! I have a vid of it on my page.

[09204418448]

My Stock SOHC VTEC 1996 Civic pulls as fast as that Turbo'd Camry. Because my Redline is on 7.3k rpm and only intake and de-cat. Love it. But Loves this video more. Nice sound. Cheers

[iceman763]

@09204418448 disagree, your SOHC doesn't pull even close to the Camry trust me. The 5sfe is 125 hp and 147lbs of tq ur SOHC 96' only has 127 and 107lbs of tq. Throw 5-6lbs of boost on the 5sfe you're kidding yourself.

[09204418448]

@iceman763 *DOHC i mean. With stock SOHC ECU. :| b20. :D and no more interior.

[iceman763]

@09204418448 Now that makes a little more sense........... =D

[FordGarbage]

Supercharger > Turbocharger.

[NikeSBDunkman23]

@FordGarbage lol but turbo is the 2.2 4cylinder tho

[Dreaklock]

@FordGarbage Twin Turbo > Supercharger.

[xxxXW4NT3DXxxx]

@Dreakloc Smaller Pulley > Twin turbo

[SergeyVA]

camry is not the car to modify! because of a platform it is build on

[heysirFTW]

What is the name of the song? :)

[CarFreak1994]

@heysirFTW Mason vs Princess: Perfect Exceeder (but I think that this is a remix) :)

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

the turbo'd 1 doesent have any torque haha.

[coolgames14]

supercharger win but the thing is, they are expensive ^^

[pabloultraxtreme]

@coolgames14 but it doesn't need much maintenance

[nike60983]

Yo supercharged is quick as fuck

[nicholastmhsw]

@nike60983 the sc camry is a v6 n the turbo is a 4cyl.....

[philacoudre]

@nike60983 well, it's on a V6... c'mon

[cxiong87]

iono but i like the supercharge onw lol... sick sound!

[CockYaLegS]

@cxiong87 The turbo car is faster.

[bobba84]

@CockYaLegS no its not

[CockYaLegS]

@bobba84 Wanna put some money down on that before I make you feel dumb as fuck.

[bobba84]

@CockYaLegS wanna shove both your camry old farts cars up your arse before i rock up in my skyline? hahahahahaha go away

[cxiong87]

@CockYaLegS no duh!........ lol

[alamrisa]

howcome it's so slow, the turbo one

[oavel24]

@alamrisa The boost is low, different manifold, different air intake! - With the boost increased and a decent intercooler - it would smoke the supercharged car!

[alamrisa]

@oavel24 i know but still it's as slow as an NA one... i think hos fuel map is all messed up

[CockYaLegS]

@alamrisa look again

[nicholastmhsw]

I stil like the turbo camry..... The sc is a v6 so nothing 2 say.....

[epsalonne]

SC has a violent roar to it. faster but scarier. turbo although fast has a pastoral jet lag. i'd feel like speeding in the countryside.

[RobertMoua]

to me supers are quick off the line because there isnt any lag.

turbo are takes a sec to catch up (depending on boost range). but because of the lag turbo has (while generating the air pressures to your computer to run a a safe level for you engine).

but overall, its all about the built. the one in the super had a better set up and the parts ran more efficient together. as for the turbo, since there was alot of mix matched parts(still compatible parts) it probably threw the car efficiency off.

[bryanbryan122]

tell me what you did to the SC camry lol . i have a 98 V6 also & i would like to do what you did lol

[durango562]

Supercharged Camry wins

[SirThomas8]

Man, I'm so jealous of the manual v6 Camry. I've got a S/C v6 Camry as well, with a lot more mods than that manual v6 Camry (5.5psi, meth injection, headers, motor mounts, Supra inectors, walbro 255, , but looks like it's a bit faster than mine. I want a manual tranny swap!!! Bah!

[WTFuxWrong]

lol @ 1:10 VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!

[SirThomas8]

@WTFuxWrong There's no VTEC.

[WTFuxWrong]

@SirThomas8 its a joke....

[zac41189]

@WTFuxWrong that comment played out 4 years ago.. let it go. 

[WTFuxWrong]

@zac41189 well i dont spend my life on the internet, so i woulndt know

[zac41189]

@WTFuxWrong that has nothing to do with it but it's cool. just can't stand people who jump on a band wagon.

[invincible751]

@WTFuxWrong lol i saw that video too

[bimmerm3freak]

aite so i have a 2002 toyota camry se v6. I've been looking for mods for months and cant find any. if there is anyone who knows good mods to add power to my car i'd appreciate a recommendation.

[24okay]

6-7 psi? That means you just slapped a turbo on there without building it to accept turbo. Why would you do that? It's not a civic. Only civic people do that crap.

[lazyboy2oo6]

When the 5SFTE was @60 mph. the 1MZFE is @ 73 mph... lol

[FoNcKmYsTeR202]

sounds great.

Can anyone please tell me where i could find a cheaper used TRD supercharger for a 1998 Camry. and is there anything else that would increase horsepower on these cars. i am running a stock v6 3.0L. thanks

[sniffsumglu]

1:11, vtec on camry?? hahaha

[BoricuaBoxer7]

@paintballgundown8 camrys are stock v6

[paintballgundown8]

@BoricuaBoxer7 so are tons of other cars

[BoricuaBoxer7]

@paintballgundown8 its also light...think of an older accord with a v6 stock

[bigmike42092]

super charged won by just a little

[11tjoen]

I bet the 1MZ has more than 300 hp

[FoNcKmYsTeR202]

i have a 1998 camry 1MZFE 3.0 6 cyl. i am wanting to supercharge it. where do i find the supercharger and how much would it cost also is it wort it?

[nihonkokusai]

I really like the sound of the 1MZFE but I have a 5SFE

[krazyraver69]

superchargers fastest and safer [=

[kkage2]

@krazyraver69 slower and safer? you can get wayyy more boost out of a turbo...

[krazyraver69]

@kkage2 in some cases yes but depends on your car as well and then again why have the boost of that turbo when its just going to blow that motor?

[kkage2]

@krazyraver69 well if the motor will blow on 10+ lbs of boost its probably not a very reliable engine to begin with, and isn't something you should be turbo charging....

[jxyooj339]

Great video comparison.

[27429]

COOL SOUND at the supercharger :-x Love it.

[lank05]

Can you please let me know what mods you did to the 5SFTE camry? I want to do the same to mine... just got a R34 body kit for it now i want it to talk the talk.

[Hamsterman3]

@lank05

@lank05

You can find a lot of info on my build and other builds via the forums over at toyotanation - just visit my thread 'How to Turbo the Camry - 5s-fTe tips and information'

I will say that in this day - with the availability to buy much cheaper/faster cars - this project is not economically viable IMO anymore - but hey, the info will still be there :)

[lank05]

@Hamsterman3 Thanks heaps. I haven't read the thread just yet but i'm about to in a second. I was looking around and found this bloke who can do it for 5 grand and i was like nah f**k that, then started speaking to my mate who i've started working with and we're gonna start the project next week... and with the contacts we have it'll only cost me around $600 to get it done give or take a hundred. But anyway i'll go check out this thread and put it to practice. thanks :)

[Texarmageddon]

@lank05 Lol you must have the parts already and want someone to install it for you? Other than that I dont see it.

[philacoudre]

@Hamsterman3 you say nowadays, there'r much cheaper/faster caars... would you plz list a few... I'm in the shopping process!

I'm thinking Scion tC would be a nice whip

[meatloaf666999]

FFS the first pass was slower than shit he hardly hit 80mph, second one was respectable but at the end of the day its still a FWD Toyota...

Therese no replacement for displacement.

[SirThomas8]

Damn that SC Camry pulls hard!

I've got a similar set up. 2000 1MZFE Camry with headers & 2.5" exhaust, 4psi Supercharger, Cold Air intake. Only differences is I have a CAI and an Auto. THAT makes me want to swap to a manual though. holy shit.

[djtranncce]

@SirThomas8 did you have do do an engine swap and if so where did you get the engine. i have a 2000 camry also and im looking for a 1MZ-FE swap

[sergsrt8]

yea, but turbos are cheaper and at least a turbo doesn't sound like a dying animal

[3400979]

stock camry haulll assssss!

[1994toyotasupra]

S-C serve boost much faster but dont produce as much boost.. turbo has to build up boost or (lag) how ever they do produce much higher boost levels

[etb4u]

@1994toyotasupra

That's why you should twin charge it :P Look at the power bands of twin charged cars, would make for an interesting road racing vehicle.

[1994toyotasupra]

@etb4u lol if you have the money then yeah !

[lank05]

@etb4u It's front wheel drive, so it wouldn't have any traction if it were twin charged.

[etb4u]

@lank05

Check out ZZPs twin charged GTP/Cobalts, you can get traction.... just need damn good tires :P

[kkage2]

@lank05 you know FWD vehicles tend to have better traction due to the fact that there is much much more weight over the front wheels right? that's why its easier to spin the the wheels in a RWD car...

[lank05]

@kkage2 that's true from the get-go.. but it's not the case in higher revvs when the motor works harder. the torque steer reduces the traction in a FWD considerably.

[kkage2]

@lank05 yeah, i was refering to from a standstill... i have a 96 monte carlo with a SC 3.8 and from a stop on dry pavement it takes quite a bit to get it to spin, but as soon as it hits about 4k RPM it will lose traction a little, my dads camaro is the opposite.. and both cars dynoed at a little under 300hp at the wheels.

[bigmike42092]

@kkage2 what torque and camaros are rear wheel i have a firebird

[kkage2]

@bigmike42092 torque in my car is 325 ftlb at the wheels, and in the camaro its like 310 or something.. i know camaros are RWD, i was comparing the traction differences between a FWD and a RWD car with the same power...

[HaamSammich]

@kkage2 are u retarded

[kkage2]

@HaamSammich how am i retarded?

[1KaoticPeace]

Should I Supercharge my four cylinder 2004 Galant...or Turbo it?

[megadriver6]

@1KaoticPeace Better supercharge and turbocharge it

[RomeoReject23]

@megadriver6 Twin-charging, fuck yeah!

[TheJake3]

Did the car fall a part after that?

[suq007]

i agree with phuongvo101 ...

i've got a camry too .. 4 cyl 2.2

[REPOMAN24722]

Turbos are way better no wonder the fastest cars in the world have turbos

[rhysc375]

@REPOMAN24722

yeh SC's are soo slow

/watch?v=FiCLofjluig

[badazzbrentIII]

both cars are quick, but you have two differences instead of one. try using the same engine next time, it will give you a better comparison

[masso172]

so im guessing supercharge is better?

[KB3MMX]

Not bad for a Camry

[phuongvo101]

Well its a V6 supercharged camry, VS a 4cyl turbo camry....of course the v6 gonna rape that 4cyl turbo off the line.

[RomeoReject23]

Depends on the application though too. In a drag, yeah sure, turbo does make more sense, but in a road race, that supercharger would run laps around the Turbo anyways, from a purely technological standpoint.

But you are right, the displacement advantage definitely skews the results.

[dazzasmitty]

@RomeoReject23 better for drag racing because it has doesnt have lag, so you get your boost instantly, thats why top fuelers use superchargers instead of big ass turbos.. and for street or circuit racing turbos have an advantage because they keep providing torque at high rpms where super chargers give more low to mid range torque

[RomeoReject23]

@dazzasmitty @dazzasmitty Top Fuel Dragsters use centrifugal superchargers, first off. Secondly, in drag racing, you arn't worried about lag, they're foot to floor once the tires hook up. In fact, it can be beneficial (Let the tires hook up before the boost comes into play).

[RomeoReject23]

@dazzasmitty Also, ALMS, LMS and FIA all ban forced induction, but as for road racing, most people use turbos for the cost, and because they're wowed by big peak numbers. Instant-response is far more important in road-racing, in order to keep the car predictable. It should also be noted that a twin screw (And I believe the new TVS-type) superchargers don't suffer "fall off" at high-rpm, meaning whatever psi you make at 1500RPM you'll make (Or very close to) at 8000RPM.

[dazzasmitty]

@RomeoReject23 i think most people go turbo because for instance, over here in australia, people are twin turbocharging v8s for dyno comps and drags now some of these cars use two t88 turbos or something like that and are getting well over 1000bhp on pump fuel, these are road registered cars, to get the same results from a supercharger they need one of those huge ones that sticks 40cm out of the bonnet, making it much more likely to get pulled over and defected by the cops

[RomeoReject23]

@dazzasmitty Again though, for a drag race I don't think running a positive displacement supercharger isn't worth it for a drag racer, mostly for racing-types where throttle response is key

Also running a centrifugal (The Supercharger that sits on the front of the engine and looks like half a turbo) would produce similar results (Although in this instance I'm with you - a turbo makes more sense).

[dazzasmitty]

@RomeoReject23 can you adjust the boost incar with a boost controller on those under bonnet type super chargers?, i dont know much about them

[RomeoReject23]

@dazzasmitty Well, they do still have blow-off valves, same as a Turbo, so in theory yes you could. That being said, I'm not quite sure why you'd want to, as whatever boost you had would remain consistent throughout the rev range.

[dazzasmitty]

@RomeoReject23 well i used to own a nissan180sx with an sr20det, when i wanted to give bigger engined cars a run for their money i would set the boost controller at 16psi, which made it good for 12.8 down the quarter mile, then to save fuel when driving to work etc, id only run 5 psi, great way to save the engine from the wear and tear of high boost pressure, only use it when you need it

[RomeoReject23]

@dazzasmitty Interesting... Makes sense on a turbo, but notso much on a supercharger still though. A supercharger is always producing boost, always parasitic, so venting off all the boost to atmosphere will cost you mileage without you being able to reap the benefits of the extra torque. Also, don't forget that you get better mileage out of an engine that doesn't have to work as hard either (The age-old pick-up with a V6 versus a V8)

[atlgltg]

holy shit that sc camry huallss ass dude i gotta get my camry supercharged. Litteraly this camry suprised me you floored it and it just took off you can hear your loosing traction

[triniplaybwoii]

yea superchargers for the win, best wway to gain high hp marks on a camry.

[fd3styperz]

@triniplaybwoii camrys ftw!!

[jgpwlcs36]

camry? why?

[cars2cars]

I like the 98 camry