Blue rifle using cold blue for a beautiful finish

[skeilak]

Having used cold bluing products, I've found that the finish is not very durable.

While they can look great at first, if you use the gun much, you'll soon start to see a lot of wear marks, where the finish has rubbed off.

I'd say such cold bluing products are fine for touching up scratches, but finishing the entire weapon that way, will lead to disappointment.

[MrDip02]

do you have to scrub the barrel because i have a m39 that has some spots that i want to reblue to keep it in prefect condition could i just reblue those spots what should i do?

[h9847]

Looking at this video how long do you submerge the metal in the hot water each time you apply the blueing?

[lawsturner]

and that's the way it is, motherfuckers

[billyluds]

@lawsturner thank you, i havnt laughed like that in a long time ;]

[gmacdaddy100]

can anyone tell me how long this bluing method lasts on well looked after rifles

[echoside190]

@gmacdaddy100 I don't see why it couldn't last a lifetime with proper care. Hasn't worn on any of the firearms I've finished, it's pretty durable but like any bluing it can get scratched.

[19Kettle93]

@gmacdaddy100 way longer than you will. short of just leaving the gun in a gun case or non-humidity controlled safe, or plain abusing it in the field cold bluing will last a life time and can be passed down for generations.

[huntish]

you keep saying "Thats the way it is" ?? thats the way what is???

[Money92591]

check out my winchester 60-22 i dont know what year it is?

[mrblesbok1]

BrimstoneMerck Thank you very much I really appreciate it

[MRMRSALIMRMRM]

اهب يالنصارا ماهم بسيطين

[3255959]

I just used a cold blue kit and they never mentioned any boiling water... What exactly does it do verses cold water?it did'nt turn out very well will most likly redue

[bfgguns]

@3255959

Hot water will just open up the "pores" of the metal helping the bluing paste or liquid to penetrate deeper into the metal making it last longer. But you can use also a hair dryer to heat up the metal.

[nenos88]

Great work, I am wondering how much does this Belgian Blue cost and could I find it somewhere in Europe ?

[12guageboom]

blue balls?

[TopOfTheLine3]

lol at the "blue" jokes

[heliraisers9]

how do i strip my barrel to the bare surface my brother did a bad job on it

[agwhitaker]

The only thing more beautiful than a polished barrel ......

Dude, put the gun aside and check out women, sun-sets, and new fallen snow.

[deano509]

@agwhitaker id rater have a sexxy gun then a women at least it dose not bitch all day

[DystruktoBoi1]

@deano509 and it only take 1 finger and half a second to make her go off ;)

[xxwesdogxx]

im liking this video and i havn't liked a video since i saw guy yelling at his cats for the fifth time

[Andreas191280]

Where can I get this in Norway? Nice!

[BrimstoneMerc]

@Andreas191280 From what I've seen Midway USA,Brownell's and other either cannot or will not ship Art's Belgian Blue,Dicropan IM, Mark Lee's Express Blue/Brown or Pilkington out of the county. The laws of the US and those or other countries and those of NATO make exportation of anything remotely related to "gun" "firearm" "sporting" yadda yadda very difficult. Hope you can find it one,they all work well. Failing that look for a home made solution like the ones I use. They work well enough.

[Andreas191280]

@BrimstoneMerc So that is the problem. That explains why I am waiting for the parts I have ordered for my Remington 700. I ordered them in late 2009.

[sh9683]

i heard that stainless can split in cold is that true? and i also read that a blued barrel that was out in -20degrees celsius brought into a warm place is the end for a blued barrel? how true is eiter? thanks! im just trying to decide between blued or stainless steel

[BrimstoneMerc]

@sh9683 Unless your hunting on another planet I cannot see how any steel would split or bulge when fired. As for a blued barrel,bringing a cold barrel indoors to a warmer temp can cause it to sweat and rust. It'll have to be brought to room temp and oiled. Stainless won't have this issue.

[sh9683]

@BrimstoneMerc thank-you, that was quite helpful,

[BrimstoneMerc]

I'm using 1 cup of 3% H2O2,a teaspoon of white vinagar and I disolve as much sea salt into the mix as it will take. It works well for next to no cost.

Another mix that seems to get a deeper black satin finish is 2 cups H2O2,2 teaspoons Sodium Nitrate ,2 teaspoons Patassium nitrate and 2 teaspoons Potassium Chloride. The Sodium is sold in lawn and garden centers as is the potassium nitrate. The potassium chloride (not chlorate) is sold as NoSalt in the grocery store as a salt substitute.

[BrimstoneMerc]

@BrimstoneMerc As for durability. It doesnt rub off with 4 ought steel whool,resists acid removal far better than caustic blue and resists rust many times better than caustic blue. I would rate this as somewhere between caustic bluing and parkerizing.

[mrblesbok1]

@BrimstoneMerc hi thanks for the handy inf. after trying the H202 formula i could not get the desired affect.How critical is the amounts mentioned, and should the mix be left to stand for a certain time before using?

I got a very blotchy, almost like pin pricks cover thats not at all near black.

The steel was degreased well and defnitly hot enough (at one point the solution burnt onto the steel with contact after using a heatgun.

Please help

[BrimstoneMerc]

@mrblesbok1 I'll send you a message with a link that may help you. There isnt enough room here to really assist in this venture.

[AfterMath428]

the only thing more beautiful then a hot girl friend is one that well blows

[rcooke25552]

hi. do you know of anywhere in the UK i can buy this? i know i can get it on the midway usa site, but it wont let me post to UK. or is there anyway you can post me some to the uk.

thanks

[TheMango121]

Hes kinda creepy lol

[BrimstoneMerc]

Crap forgot to mention the old timers called this 20 minute blue.

[BrimstoneMerc]

I prefer this bluing type. Its a conversion process exactly like rust bluing. I use a home made mix of household hydrogen peroxide,vinigar and salt. The solution turns the steel black on contact like cold blue but only if the steel is hot enough. Otherwise the steel turns brown on contact but will blacken when placed in the hot bath. Either way it gets the job done. The finish is tough and looks great.

[XForceBowhunter]

@BrimstoneMerc

How durable is your method compared to slow rust bluing? Also, what ratios do you mix the h202, vinegar, and salt?

[ArtistBlade1972]

@BrimstoneMerc What are the ratios in this bluing formula?

[mxking118]

I have a quick question for anyone who's viewing. I have a Remington Model 700 .308, the bolt of the gun has a spot were it was rubbing and took the finish off to the bare metal. I looks online and it said the finish on the gun was "satin black oxide". I was wondering if gun blue would work and the spot no be noticeable or if i would have to get a black oxide kit? Or is gun bluing and black oxide the same?

Thank you. 

[buttermobile]

Herters' Belgian Blue is really not a cold blue process, rather a hot water process similar to rust bluing, only much faster and can equal or exceed hot salt bluing. It is often used on European double barreled shotguns where soft solder would be eaten away by hot salt bluing. It is very simple to do and very forgiving if you follow directions. The last step is to soak or saturate the part or parts in water displacing oil for 24 hours before reassembly. I like and have had great success.

[benneman007]

Belgian stuff ftw! :D

[xycoordinatex]

Gunsmith = good in bed. Period!

[squall09sparks]

where can I buy the belgian blue?

[marinekumrad]

God bless mr. potter youre the best

[Howie7777777]

what the point of steel wooling it after you blue it?

[Phantomrig]

@Howie7777777 The steel wool evens out the finish.

[axishans]

@Howie7777777 to clean and prep it for the next layer

[TheChubbyKid]

I might have to blue my old old guns.

[Wtchmvies]

I love your videos. Detailed and straight forward.

[dylbyl1234]

wait can u use this with a knife

[Sturmmann]

wow....gonna do this to my K98

[omfg191]

I have a few questions. I am going to blue the clip on my knife, and do you immediately dip the steel in the hot water after applying the bluing, or do you wait for it to dry on the surface? Also, can you just dispose of the water by dumping it down the sink?

[rozziboy20]

and thats the way it is, cuz i said so bitches

[snappers95]

and thats the way it is

[keefer2111]

This bluing is poison..if your kid drinks it, there is no way to save there life so be warned...A little boy in Holly Michigan died from it back a few years ago, all the father could do was hold him.

[bigbubba5037]

@keefer2111 Its not something you drink, so more than likely, you would die from drinking it. So what is the meaning behind your comment? Not to drink it?

[keefer2111]

@bigbubba5037

don't let this stuff lay around where a child can get there hands on it.

[bigbubba5037]

@keefer2111 Dude, thats common sense for just about everything.

[keefer2111]

@keefer2111

It sure is, but it has no antadote, if a child gets there hands on it, just don't leave

this stuff out where a child can get there hands on it. Its easy to say thats common

sense but there are so many people that get complacent with dangerous chemicals.

[WLuico]

YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAW!

[MasterMoose00]

whats the song playing in the background? im gunu have to try this

[savannafc]

Anyone know the name of that song?

[semtech30]

I've blue'd with Super Blue.

It's nitric acid.

I clean off the impurities with acetone.

Wipe on the nitric acid and watch it darken up. Good for touch ups too.

I finish with a good oiling.

Super simple.

[Nuclearfright]

@semtech30 Just used super blue today it's good stuff!

[bamdizzle08]

@semtech30 , im wanting a real dark finish, i mean dark. what would you suggest as far as the most suitable cold blue? i have tried birch wood and casey super blue too the, 2x. it doesnt give me the finish i want....

[semtech30]

@bamdizzle08

First off the barrel must be made absolutely free of oils.

Acetone used liberally is quite effective.

Maybe try a bit of heat before application of blueing.

All I know is to keep applying and should get darker each time.

But this method is a true steel blue.

The Factory black I think is something different.

It's baked on or something like that.

[ZuluComander]

that just blue my mind

[outdoorguy1215]

@ZuluComander lmao

[lavid2006]

@ZuluComander rly?

[ZuluComander]

rly it did

[blanbproductionshd]

@ZuluComander cornyist pun of the year.

you diserve a cookie

[ZuluComander]

@blanbproductionshd HOLYSHIT! I actually was eating a cookie when i read your reply

[darthbilly97]

@ZuluComander and i thought my jokes were corny

[darthbilly97]

@ZuluComander and i thought my jokes were corny lol

[blanbproductionshd]

@ZuluComander i see what u did there

[aflatminor]

@ZuluComander

Ha Ha!!- fantastic play on words ;-)

[shawnehallam]

Larry WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WHERE PURPLE GLOVES

[pipebrain4]

@shawnehallam Because he's over there? It's wear, not where, you illiterate moron. Seems there's a correlation between intolerance and stupidity.

[STDMachinima]

@ZuluComander You spelt... Oh.. OH! Ahaha.

[sheepball]

rednecks

[cottonmouth101]

yup and dang proud of it.

[treboris]

why do you call this cold blue? i learned the process you just described as hot rust bluing. i know there is a cold rust blue process which is similar except it takes many coats over many days.

[qhack]

Cold blue as opposed to Hot blue, where you actually heat the metal with flame to turn the color of the steel the dark blue color. Both methods are design such that as the gun heats up from rounds being fired through it, it won't change color at random. The chemical process here just ensures that there is an even coloration. Also, the hot blue process tends to change the temper of the metal, so unless you understand the metallurgical properties of the metal, it's best to use the cold method.

[mcmonkey001]

I'm afraid I just blue myself.

[CMgunguy44]

True, blued barrels will rust, if not taken care of. A coat of Rem-Oil after you are done for the day, will keep its from rusting. I shoot trap and a lot of newbies come out with rusty guns and wonder why all the other guns are high-gloss blue with no spots of rust. They never knew that you had to oil the gun down after use to prevent that from happening.

[oaklandraider81]

i hate gun blue. i think parkerizing or duracote is better.

[drbackjack]

Nice to see Im not the only one that loves duracoat.

[Jordenkl]

sorry fore the bad comments , this is just little kid that get in to my life, i will be stop soon as i can do

[defconfunky]

news from the uk. ring neck parakeets will be on next years vermin list. FACT

[Jordenkl]

thanks, is that work with air rifles bluing barrel, i just need to re blue my rifle and i need to know

[HighlandAirGun]

Thought you were supposed to be a shooting expert? or do your skills just extend to killing protected species?

[Jordenkl]

after 11 years i do have the  skills you fucking idiot, and why you hink that i asked you? you know shit so be a good dog and shut the hell up fore fuck sake

[HighlandAirGun]

You have the skills? were ? in a tiny box buried at the end of your garden.

[Jordenkl]

in my huge head you moron

[HighlandAirGun]

That would be the huge head with the tiny dick hanging from it!

[AirgunAddict256]

pwned lol.

[AirgunAddict256]

the guy you replied to. i thought it was funny. his brain does seem the size of a .177 pellet lol.

[getajobfatboy]

Where do you get this blueing at?

[chapiit08]

Brownells carries this product and also Pilkington's Blue

[getajobfatboy]

Thanks so much for the info!

[chapiit08]

I just found out that MidwayUSA carries this product at a cheaper price than Brownells.

[snypercat]

Any gun shop should stock it, and thats the way it is. LOL

[Jordenkl]

so i can do it with my air rifle?

[bello787878]

how do u get that smell off of it?

[semaj20]

I have tried many cold blue products but

always find that it will come off once it comes into contact with fingers and hands,is this one any better?

[stoobers1]

I got an old kabar knife from a thrift store, and a bottle of gun bluing from Big 5 sporting goods.

It worked just like he said. My knife-bluing experience went very well. I had to coat the knife w/ blue, dry it, rub it with a rag until it shined a bit, then repeat about 10 times. Took quite a while. The sharp bare steel edge contrasts the black blade well.

I'd love to know if this gun blue is toxic AFTER it is used on the gun. It really makes the knife steel look fantastic.

[Soldiersurvivor505]

A blued gun can rust if you leave it to get wet. Unless you coat the metal with oil as you should to protect it.

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

From having tried to blue something larger than an inch or so, and having been told that you can't do a good job bluing a gun with cold blue, that's very impressive. I'll have to try that on a sporterized Mauser I have that has no finish left on the barrel or receiver.

[carlos5473]

was the barrel stainless steel or carbine

[mesa401]

I'm not positive, but I don't think you can blue stainless steel.

[Southern661]

i have heard its very hard to blue SS but its possible.

and another question, im not going to find this one out by myself, i love my guns to much: does a blued barrel rust? at all?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Yes I have a cool technique for correctly stopping the bluing process in it's tracks. Actually, I'm not trying to jack Mr. Potterfield, but I have a set of bluing videos on my page. To stop the process using a little hot water mixed with some baking soda....does the trick....follow up with a good oil.

[Milithane]

I believe you can only blue carbon steel.

A blued barrel cannot rust, unless the bluing is removed and the bare metal comes in contact with water/moisture, etc...

[hxcgrant]

wrong why do you think you oil your guns

[uraijit]

Uh, blued barrels will rust. Especially cold-blued.

[Jordenkl]

ho yah it's , but it's nice looking

[PaulyCracker]

How do you keep the water hot? This is amazing how good it turned out. Definitely adding to my next order!

[eduvc123]

some kind of grill would work on keeping the water cool... I guess.

[eduvc123]

I meant keep the water hot.

[PaulyCracker]

Thanks eduvc123!

[eduvc123]

no problem...

xD

[stoobers1]

Rinse it w/ running hot water in a bath tub.