Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Astro-Physicists.
Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Astr0-Physicists.
Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Asto-Physicists.
In Hinduism the Universe was once in a condensed form called a "Bindu" from "Tapas" (heat) it expanded and created "all that" you see. Now this is not science (I grant you) but conversely Science does not disagree.
The good thing about this theory, unlike other religious theories on origin of universe is that it leaves the door open for further improvement in understanding of the problem. At the end the philosopher says that these are his thoughts and even gods might not the true origin or there might not be any God. This negation of finality and urging people for there own research is the best thing and makes it compatible with progressive thinking.
This hymn is the most original hypothesis on creation which can be compared to modern big bang theory. BTW, The antiquity of vedas has been established as around 10,000 bc based on celestial events mentioned in taittariya brahmana. SayanaCharya (1315-1387) has stated that the sun traverses 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha. This equals to 186,536 miles per second. THIS pre-dates Newton by 300 years. Pingala talks about binary numbers in 200 AD. Baudayana pre-dates Pythagoras by 3oo years
@sam7628 Any hypothesis in "Science" should be based on experimental findings. This hymn from the antiquity only poses queries or musings about the origin of universe. That is all they could do in those days ! Regarding speed of light, even if we conclude your calculations are right, the question remains how did Sayanacharya arrived at this? What experiments did he conduct and were they replicated by others? It could not have just occurred to him from the divine spirit !
Science is nothing but confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, that got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western Physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas.
Some people have difficulty accepting it, but truth of Nasadiya Sukta is there for all to read and decide.
Science is nothing but the confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, which got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas. Some people have difficulty accepting it as it came from Hindus, but truth of Nasadiya Sukta is there for all to read and decide.
Science is nothing but the confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, which got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas. Some people have difficulty accepting it as it came from Hindus.
@ajha55 This is no hypothesis of creation. And Hubble telescope did not confirm anything that is said in this hymn. there was no "theoretical physics " in Vedas. Vedas had esoteric sacrificial hymns and that is that ! There is no conspiracy against Hindus. During Vedic times there was no Hinduism either. Incidentally "Hinduism" is name coined by others who did not have roots in India. The term "Sanatan dharma" is more appropriate.
@sam7628 - Great posting, let us praise Hindu sages for declaring Big Bang Theory, long before Hubble was born and his telesscope confirmed theory of Physics outlined in Nasadiya Sukta or so called Big Bang Theory
@ajha55 this is no big bang theory my friend,but ya it was d earliest accounts of skeptical enquiry and agnosticism,wich means dat people who wrote this verse wer open minded and accepted d fact dat they dont know how d universe originated and didnt make up stupid fairytales unlike other "revealed" religions wich claim to do so,to me dats admirable but ya plz dont claim dats its big bang
@thescorpionking2020 ditto !! I was going to reply or refute ajha55's claim. People are entitled to love the religion, but they should refrain from making grandiose false claim. As Galileo once said " religion should tell people how to go to heaven, not how heavens go!
@SJisBack ya u r right calling it big bang and all this stuff is really making a mockery of d entire thing,makes u just look like a stupid creationist moron,should never do such stuff its very stupid,people should not make such claims,they are only laughable,its a beautiful hymn wich shows dat people back then were trying to make sense of the universe around us and they wer atleast not making up a retarded adam and eve like fairytale,they wer open minded about it,dats d beauty of this hymn
@thescorpionking2020 true as u said it.It is claimed that we need a radicaly new thought to understand pre Bigbang n so. My point is Philosophically may be Hymn are correct.But to say that they are better than our current research or current theories is ridiculous and blasphemy.
This is the best part of ancient Hindu thought. No blind dogma need apply. Just foster inquiry. Socrates would have nodded in pleased agreement, for what we see in this sloka are two very scientific principles: a candid skepticism about any finality in the search for truth, and the proposition that heat( energy) may be the ultimate source of all creation. No scientist will quarrel with such ideas. I have long loved this part of the Rig Veda. Thanks, SJ.
@chamogaa Vipan ji, This like many other stories of world's creation in other religions, is merely philosophical musings by teachers or Rishis 3000 years ago, and just that. It does not make any sense to me, granted the meaning has become obscure with the passage of time and in translation of Vedic Sanskrit. People read into these hymns and assert there is connection with modern scientific theories like "Big Bang".
@SJisBack . No, I don't see any modern scientific precision there,yet the inquiring spirit is inspiring. The hymn doesn't affirm blind faith;in fact, even agnosticism and atheism in ancient India became respected parts of a debate about reality. The finest works on atheism were written by Jain philosophers. Nobody suppressed them, but rather celebrated them. The proposition on tapas as the fountain of creation is also impressive, though only offered as an intuitive,not tested assertion.
@chamogaa . I do want to add that in this way, I am not sure other religions are similar to the Rig Vedic philosophy, for they begin with a "creator" that transcends creation and foster faith in "Him."
In fact this should not make sense. The nonsensical spirit within this poem is in fact statement: I DONT KNOW!!! One of the most profound realization of human!!!!
The good thing about this theory, unlike other religious theories on origin of universe is that it leaves the door open for further improvement in understanding of the problem. At the end the philosopher says that these are his thoughts and even gods might not the true origin or there might not be any God. This negation of finality and urging people for there own research is the best thing and makes it compatible with progressive thinking.
Basically none of you can understand the words of the Vedas, using your knowledge of Sanksrit today.
Those words can only by understood by penance, by tapa. Not by eating meat and speculating.
If you want to know more, contact me at my mail.
akhandbha 3 months ago
Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Astro-Physicists.
ajha55 7 months ago
Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Astr0-Physicists.
ajha55 7 months ago
Nasadiya Sukta was the very first attempt of explaining Creation . What Vedic sages proposed in their hypothesis - " a concentrated point exploded and expanded due to heat", turned out to be right and have been confirmed by Asto-Physicists.
ajha55 7 months ago
This must be one of the shlokas Carl sagan quotes on his video where he insists universe goes through cycles of birth and death.
Irony is that being a born Hindu ( I do not know about religion any more) I missed this one in all the clutter all religions collect as they grow...
sujatatibre 1 year ago
In Hinduism the Universe was once in a condensed form called a "Bindu" from "Tapas" (heat) it expanded and created "all that" you see. Now this is not science (I grant you) but conversely Science does not disagree.
LambrettaFunk 1 year ago
The good thing about this theory, unlike other religious theories on origin of universe is that it leaves the door open for further improvement in understanding of the problem. At the end the philosopher says that these are his thoughts and even gods might not the true origin or there might not be any God. This negation of finality and urging people for there own research is the best thing and makes it compatible with progressive thinking.
aschoubey1 1 year ago
This hymn is the most original hypothesis on creation which can be compared to modern big bang theory. BTW, The antiquity of vedas has been established as around 10,000 bc based on celestial events mentioned in taittariya brahmana. SayanaCharya (1315-1387) has stated that the sun traverses 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha. This equals to 186,536 miles per second. THIS pre-dates Newton by 300 years. Pingala talks about binary numbers in 200 AD. Baudayana pre-dates Pythagoras by 3oo years
sam7628 1 year ago
@sam7628 Any hypothesis in "Science" should be based on experimental findings. This hymn from the antiquity only poses queries or musings about the origin of universe. That is all they could do in those days ! Regarding speed of light, even if we conclude your calculations are right, the question remains how did Sayanacharya arrived at this? What experiments did he conduct and were they replicated by others? It could not have just occurred to him from the divine spirit !
SJisBack 1 year ago
Science is nothing but confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, that got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western Physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas.
Some people have difficulty accepting it, but truth of Nasadiya Sukta is there for all to read and decide.
ajha55 11 months ago
Science is nothing but the confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, which got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas. Some people have difficulty accepting it as it came from Hindus, but truth of Nasadiya Sukta is there for all to read and decide.
ajha55 11 months ago
Science is nothing but the confirmed knowledge; In this case Vedic Physicists came with a hypothesis of creation, which got confirmed 4-5 thousands years later by Hubble telescope and western physicists. Why this is not a science. We should admire these theoretical physicists of Vedas. Some people have difficulty accepting it as it came from Hindus.
ajha55 11 months ago
@ajha55 This is no hypothesis of creation. And Hubble telescope did not confirm anything that is said in this hymn. there was no "theoretical physics " in Vedas. Vedas had esoteric sacrificial hymns and that is that ! There is no conspiracy against Hindus. During Vedic times there was no Hinduism either. Incidentally "Hinduism" is name coined by others who did not have roots in India. The term "Sanatan dharma" is more appropriate.
SJisBack 11 months ago
@sam7628 - Great posting, let us praise Hindu sages for declaring Big Bang Theory, long before Hubble was born and his telesscope confirmed theory of Physics outlined in Nasadiya Sukta or so called Big Bang Theory
ajha55 11 months ago
@ajha55 this is no big bang theory my friend,but ya it was d earliest accounts of skeptical enquiry and agnosticism,wich means dat people who wrote this verse wer open minded and accepted d fact dat they dont know how d universe originated and didnt make up stupid fairytales unlike other "revealed" religions wich claim to do so,to me dats admirable but ya plz dont claim dats its big bang
thescorpionking2020 11 months ago
@thescorpionking2020 ditto !! I was going to reply or refute ajha55's claim. People are entitled to love the religion, but they should refrain from making grandiose false claim. As Galileo once said " religion should tell people how to go to heaven, not how heavens go!
SJisBack 11 months ago
@SJisBack ya u r right calling it big bang and all this stuff is really making a mockery of d entire thing,makes u just look like a stupid creationist moron,should never do such stuff its very stupid,people should not make such claims,they are only laughable,its a beautiful hymn wich shows dat people back then were trying to make sense of the universe around us and they wer atleast not making up a retarded adam and eve like fairytale,they wer open minded about it,dats d beauty of this hymn
thescorpionking2020 11 months ago
@thescorpionking2020 true as u said it.It is claimed that we need a radicaly new thought to understand pre Bigbang n so. My point is Philosophically may be Hymn are correct.But to say that they are better than our current research or current theories is ridiculous and blasphemy.
TheSujit123 8 months ago
I have to agree with you friends. As sceptic and atheist i find this beautiful. Really insipring for me.
I see it infinitely deeper than any theistic or deistic philosophy.
Beautiful poetry....
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
@J0EH3AD Yes! Faiths main goal is to show us beauty not dogma, and I'm glad I was born in one that shows this.
LambrettaFunk 1 year ago
This is the best part of ancient Hindu thought. No blind dogma need apply. Just foster inquiry. Socrates would have nodded in pleased agreement, for what we see in this sloka are two very scientific principles: a candid skepticism about any finality in the search for truth, and the proposition that heat( energy) may be the ultimate source of all creation. No scientist will quarrel with such ideas. I have long loved this part of the Rig Veda. Thanks, SJ.
chamogaa 1 year ago
@chamogaa Vipan ji, This like many other stories of world's creation in other religions, is merely philosophical musings by teachers or Rishis 3000 years ago, and just that. It does not make any sense to me, granted the meaning has become obscure with the passage of time and in translation of Vedic Sanskrit. People read into these hymns and assert there is connection with modern scientific theories like "Big Bang".
SJisBack 1 year ago
@SJisBack . No, I don't see any modern scientific precision there,yet the inquiring spirit is inspiring. The hymn doesn't affirm blind faith;in fact, even agnosticism and atheism in ancient India became respected parts of a debate about reality. The finest works on atheism were written by Jain philosophers. Nobody suppressed them, but rather celebrated them. The proposition on tapas as the fountain of creation is also impressive, though only offered as an intuitive,not tested assertion.
chamogaa 1 year ago
@chamogaa . I do want to add that in this way, I am not sure other religions are similar to the Rig Vedic philosophy, for they begin with a "creator" that transcends creation and foster faith in "Him."
chamogaa 1 year ago
@SJisBack
In fact this should not make sense. The nonsensical spirit within this poem is in fact statement: I DONT KNOW!!! One of the most profound realization of human!!!!
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
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The good thing about this theory, unlike other religious theories on origin of universe is that it leaves the door open for further improvement in understanding of the problem. At the end the philosopher says that these are his thoughts and even gods might not the true origin or there might not be any God. This negation of finality and urging people for there own research is the best thing and makes it compatible with progressive thinking.
aschoubey1 1 year ago