The Truth of the Times Episode 7 - People in the Sky (A Zeitgeist Supplimental Commentary)

[clnmyjts]

Well..I guess It was because they did not have T.V. back then...LOL

[SpotTheCaper]

religion is like "whisper" pass it on...somebody passed it on but got it mixed up.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Sounds very much like Peter Joseph's citation methods actually.

[Tranquiltree]

OK... yet another layer of cognitive dissonance ... sigh ... what's next? I mean, this seems like the exact same genre as the Zeitgeist movie just another snipers perspective. The energy is the same. So whats next? Im ready to be free.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Hey, this sniper is loaded with some actual source materials.

[RuffDiamond23]

HAHA you twat. They were people like you and me. Look how people in the lime light can be judged as good one day, and shite the next! Your insignificant details do not sway the argument from the point. The point that this knowledge got hoisted and used by people for their own selfish benefits by creating religions and sciences that DON"T WASH ANY MORE. That is the point. There is definitely room for immediate improvement, zeitgeist has helped some people to realise that. Don't knock it's intent.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Which people and what knowledge are you talking about exactly?

[RuffDiamond23]

The 'know ledge' of who and what we are and where we came from, which includes knowledge of our potential when we collaborate.

The 'people' being people like you and me, who have experienced greed, keeping things to yourself, the fear of being discovered, jealousy, family disputes etc. Solutions, common goals, and an order of priority that's all good to the best of our collaborative knowledge is where it's at. If we all collaborated one morning, we'd be done by lunch.

[VinnfordSansbury]

I see. I think you need to read the description of this video. Its not about debunking the whole film, just pointing out what was true and what the director missed. That way, you can make a better determination as to how much of it is believable yourself. Details are very important. The word "no" alone can turn a paragraph on its head. Is that something one would call a "minor detail"? I think not. Some details have a great power to change paradigms.

[RuffDiamond23]

Agreed. :)

However, it's our intentions that have the greatest powers. If someone doesn't mean good, but gets his details right, he'll come unstuck eventually. None of us really know anything at all, and so I go by whether they mean good or not. Thanks for your reply and patience by the way... people normally haven't got the time, and cut me off! Makes a nice change.

[VinnfordSansbury]

There is always time for Truth. I believe you know more than you think. But remember the old adage, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions". Good intentions gave us the Crusades, wiped out the Native American populations, brought about the Holocaust and the death of millions of Chinese farmers under Maoist communism etc. I think PJ has that kind of intention, that kind of power, and walks that line. Anything we can do to nudge him on the narrow is all the better.

[RuffDiamond23]

Lol... as David Icke put it, "Problem action SOLUTION"

[VinnfordSansbury]

I think David Icke missed a step in there.

"Problem.  Think. Action. Solution."

[christo930]

None of this proves anything about Christianity and it is well known that Christianity "borrowed" quite a bit from other religions. And the fiat currency system is awful. The amount of inflation since Nixon closed the gold window has been astronomical. If you chart it out, you will notice that it went on an upward trend during WWII and the cold war and then went straight up after the (foreign) gold standard was abandoned by Nixon.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Yeah, this episode didn't talk much if anything about Christianity is why. ;-)

As for the fiat currency, clearly you have to ask yourself:

1. Who had power when this went down?

2. Who was in charge of making the decision to switch?

3. Who REALLY benefits?

During WWII the USA was making money hand over fist because its International companies sold to both sides and all the competition was bombed in to the ground.

[christo930]

The FIAT currency system benefits the gov and large banks and corporations. They are the first ones to get the new money as it's created and they get the full purchasing power. By the time the money filters down to mr and ms citizen, it's lost it's value. We didn't reach full fiat status until 1971, citizens could get silver up until 1964.

I am with them in that I feel the entire fiat system should be scrapped and I would be surprised if you felt otherwise.

[VinnfordSansbury]

I'm all for a dollar whose value is assured rather than garunteed to diminish.

[christo930]

Then you should be against the fiat currency system. The real advantage to using a commodity backed money, preferably gold, isn't that the money is backed and has value, but that central banks and governments can't just print as much money as they feel like. Our founding fathers knew the dangers of inflation and that is why they said only gold and silver can be money.