It's good that you bounced back rather than let fringeelements defeat you. There is a dark humour in the fact that he masquerades as some kind of libertarian while using relentlessly authoritarian tactics against his opponents on You Tube. Like Adolf Hitler fringeelements has an obsessive hatred of any dissent from his outlook. If he ever got his hands on a state-apparatus, far from dismantling it I am sure that he would use it to crush his opponents.
I think that CS is pretty emotionally stunted. All of his childish behavior seems to be driven by this impulse to transgress boundaries. National socialism, Anarchism, his internet trickery, all seem to be about crossing boundaries and trying to justify it. That ain't necessarily bad, but it's compulsive. I feel for the kid, I think he's been through some rough shit, and this transgressive behavior is his way of taking back control of his identity. But the boy need catharsis, healing.
I almost cried when I found out Stodles was gay, because I'm bisexual and I've noticed that a lot of people use his bitchiness as an excuse for their own heterosexism. I'm amazed you managed to stay so calm. Reminds me of some kids who shot a heron at a watershed and then intentionally dumped broken glass at the nearby playground. That's the kind of guy Stodles seems like. National anarchism sucks, Stodles sucks, and if you still support Stodles after this, you suck.
Social class is partially determined by IQ- you're smarter, you're more likely to progress in society. To say that social class causes low IQ is to reverse the order of causation.
It's funny that you call FE narrow minded, despite the fact that HE is the one taking the controversial position, and you're the one taking the common position.
If races are, on average, intellectually different, we cannot ascribe differences of outcome to racism. That's what this debate is about.
The racial trait is when the forces of natural selection, sexual selection and genetic drift eventually culminate in one race, on average, having a quality noticeably different from other races. I could make the observation that "German Shepards are big dogs," and, even if you find a small German Shepard, the tendency still exists.
The fact that you think one exception invalidates the general tendency just shows that you don't understand the concept of a "correlation."
Furthermore, I offered to provide scholarly papers on the matter. You ignored that offer, which just goes to show you put more significance in your personal prejudices than actual science, despite your condescending attitude and thinly-veiled implications of intellectual superiority.
this may be a new low for stodles but it's somewhat expected behaviour from given what he's like. what i find interesting is your girlfriend in this whole thing. it's hard to assimilate that she actually contacted him.
If you're trying to claim that he's a "white supremacist," that contradicts nearly all of his videos on race differences in IQ, in which he CONSISTENTLY claims that Northeast Asians (i.e. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese) have higher average IQ's than whites and are less criminally predisposed.
You simply fail to understand the difference in prescriptive and descriptive claims. Saying a race has a lower average intellect is not wishing it to be so; it's making a claim about reality.
To me, vanilla is superior to chocolate- vanilla flatters my personal values better than chocolate. To say "intellectual superiority" is identical to "superiority" is to claim that intellectual ability is the only thing that matters in a person, which is a very ironic thing to put in a vid comment about FE, who was an undeniably smart, albeit shady, person. You're the one playing the games, trying to reduce real arguments to simple "superior/inferior" dichotomies to incriminate.
He didn't say that intellect is CALCULATED by brain size, he said it was CORRELATED with brain size. Blatant straw man. (Brain size is indeed positively correlated with IQ; if you want the names of relevant studies, ask me and I'll PM you.)
Plus, open mindedness is not synonymous with intelligence; it's closer to creativity, which is related to intelligence but not identical.
Stodles NEVER said anything about "racial superiority"- he said things about the genetic basis for intellectual and behavioral traits and how they apply to population genetics and sociology. You could agree with that or disagree, I don't care. "Superior" is a subjective value judgement that he wasn't making. To say he talked of "racial superiority" is an obvious, blatant and intentional strawman.
That being said, I don't sympathize with him. He acts like a kid.
So, arguing that one race is genetically predisposed to be violent, uncivilized criminals and intellectually inferior to the other races is NOT the same as arguing for racial superiority? What -is-, then?
i agree but anyone dumb enough to give his passwords to his gf, then steal from her, then not change his passwords kinda deserves this. i'd definitely do the same thing to thundertard if i could get his password, just to piss him off. in the end, i'm really hoping ryan put those videos somewhere where they can be recovered.
@oiuoiu988 I didn't give it to her, she noted it behind my dad's back on a computer screen. I didn't steal from her, I have no idea what that claim refers to. Furthermore, even if all your premises were right, you'd still be engaging in a weak rationalization. If someone leaves their door unlocked, or if their ex-girlfriend has a key, does this mean they deserved to be robbed? That's victim-blaming nonsense. These kind of rationalizations reveal that you people have no moral sense.
you admit to stealing a roles of quarters from her on this very page, do you honestly think the fact that you want cigarettes gives you the right to take property from everyone else??
"These kind of rationalizations reveal that you people have no moral sense."
this statement reveals that you have no argument. what is it about your moral sense that tells you stealing is ok if its only metal money, or if you want cigarettes...
@oiuoiu988 I didn't steal a role of quarters, I let her know about it. And I haven't argued that stealing is okay - the whole stealing thing here is a bizarre attempt at rationalization for retribution, and I honestly have no clue what it could meaningfully be refering to. It seems like a flat out lie based on my knowledge. In either case, it still would be ridiculously disproportionate to try to sabotage someone's entire social internet experience (including e-mail) because they took 10 dollars
But with one minor exception that wasn't really a theft (I grabbed some quarter rolls she had because I needed cigarette money, with the intention of paying her back, but I told her about it), I can't think of anything she can possibly be refering to in order to claim that I stole from here.
how is that not stealing? because thats all im going off of, not the accusation. if you had asked and she said yes, it wouldnt be stealing. duh.
@oiuoiu988 My fucking christ, he took some quarters and then when confronted said he took them. What a fucking tyrant! The little princess had some quarters taken away from her!!! Holy fuck man, call the fucking police!!
Why the fuck are you even bringing this up? Stop pretending you're a critical thinker on the fringes of society and just admit that you've been hustled by an insane person. At this point, you're acting like a fucking cult member to justify FE's authoritarianism.
i never said it was the worst thing ever. but it was stealing, thanks for clearing that up. this was brought up by other people and admitted to by alex before i mentioned it. i was an an-cap way before ryan, anyone who's anti-statism depends on ryan (spawk and probably some junior high kids) can become statists now for all i care.
p.s. i said i was on alex's side on this issue like 15 times on this page, thanks for reading1
@NoMoreSunsets Careful. If you call it authoritarianism, people are going to tell you that that means nothing in this context. I assume that they are all on some profound level I'm not aware of.
@NoMoreSunsets It wasn't quarters. It was a $20 bill. The theft was petty, but trust was breached. And he didn't fess up to it until I confronted him directly and couldn't have had the intention of paying me back because he's flat broke.
All of that aside, it just reveals another shitty aspect of his character; it's not the primary reason I can't stand him anymore.
@anastasiaw That's cool. I'm not going to interfere in your affairs. I don't know the whole story and so it was wrong of me to say anything. However, you have put this out in the public and that seems to be intentional. Plus, password sharing is a illegal and considered theft.
@NoMoreSunsets Not exactly intentional. Perhaps forseeable, but I didn't expect Ryan to remove all of BP's videos and announce that he had done it. It's not the course of action I would have recommended. But once it was out, there was nothing to do but to fess up.
@NoMoreSunsets And yeah, there are a lot of laws that are out of proportion with the crime.
For instance, willfully and knowingly reading someone else's mail is a Federal offense, but it would be silly of me to press charges for BP reading mail addressed to me without my consent.
I just can't understand why nobody has organised a flagging down of FE''s account yet. Someone just can't get away with overriding someone's channel on youtube, surely? This is unheard of.
You really do have to get organised to get youtube to do anything about things like this. Remember he's not even supposed to be on youtube in the first place but has had this account up and running for ages. Someone needs to do a video saying we have to complain to youtube.
that would be pretty useless considering he has a ton of followers on facebook, twitter and other sites. he will inevitably lose subscribers and fans because of this but the fact that you want to limit his ability to speak freely because of this indiscretion just shows your true colors. you only like free speech when people agree with you... im obviously not on ryans side on this issue but 2 wrongs dont make a right and youtube needs ryan more than ryan needs youtube at this point.
@oiuoiu988 How you can refer to *others* here has limiting people's free speech, while Ryan Faulk literally shut down and took over my speech-space, is beyond me. You must have a really twisted sense of things or really have your head up Ryan Faulk's ass. Speaking of two wrongs not making a right, that's his whole rationalization for this. Simple-minded retributionism that isn't even based on facts.
because you made a new channel, your ability to speak freely is unmitigated. i'm not on ryans side here, i believe ive made that abundantly clear, 2 wrongs DONT make a right.
how can you respond to this comment but ignore my comment from yesterday when we were in the middle of a conversation about sowell's views on race and IQ? i shouldnt even be answering you.
@oiuoiu988 I made a new channel because otherwise I would have been voiceless. As for your comment about Sowell, I honestly am forced to shrug and say that Sowell is a pawn/tool.
wow... you truly are a moron and an intellectual coward. is sowell part of the conspiracy?? look at the bright side dude, those videos of you sucking at guitar arent on the internet anymore.
@ThisBoyisExhausted It's amazing what people will say in an attempt at shaming or to try to hurt someone's feelings, isn't it? The funny part is that I've been going to open mic nights recently and have developed a local following, and keep getting offers for paid gigs almost every week.
Sounds like you have professional jazz training and could probably hit the changes on Giant Steps. Ridiculous that someone would say you suck at guitar.
@ThisBoyisExhausted I do have some jazz training, although I must say that I've always been too intimidated to take a stab at giant steps. Those changes go by really quickly. But I also never looked at a lead sheet or chord chart for giant steps, so maybe if I did that I'd get used to it over time.
i transcribed and learned changes+melody for giant steps 10 years ago... i wasnt saying you (currently) suck at guitar as much as i was saying there were some videos i saw of you playing that were kinda bad. i cant say how old they were so im not trying to say you suck now. youre not even a little embarrassed by the playing on some of those?? do you think ur better now?
I'm not calling for him to be banned from other spaces in which he operates, but you just cannot override someone else's right to free speech and remove their videos and there not be some punishment. Remember the outrage that VFX DMCAed a few videos? This is much worse than that in my book - DMCAs are like stealing from someone's house, but closing down someone's account is like knocking down the whole house. The community just can't allow this.
whether ryan ought to be deleted from yt for this or not, he did not override anyone's right to free speech. if anything he destroyed property, oh wait, you dont believe in property, do you??
you previously claimed I want to limit FE's ability to speak freely because I think he should lose his channel for this, yet now you're claiming FE did NOT override Brainpolice's ability to speak freely by removing his account. You're clearly a fanboy who can't get his story straight.
And why would I not believe in private property? Some kind of troll smear?
I highly doubt any of the youtube anti-statists who followed fringeelement's ideas actually thought he was a great person. He had a following because of his ideas, not because of his stellar personality. I had always known he was immature, but I had no clue that it was to this extent.
@Dabba23 I'm not sure what special or original ideas there are to talk about. A decent portion of it is regurgitated libertarianism 101, sometimes given new buzzwords or propogated through new memes.
@AntiFringeElements No, libertarianism 101 is moralizing poopoo and you know it, and that is obviously not what Ryan espoused. Ignoring how much you disagree with his positions, he was at the very least different than the run of the mill libertarian. In fact, I think you're videos are more libertarianism 101 with new buzzwords (thick libertarianism anyone) and some memes.
@darklord220 Hedoes espouse libertarianism 101, including some of its implicit moral premises. He avoids calling it morality and rationalizing it, but he relies on the staple libertarian premises about the nature of government. "Taxation is theft", "the government initiates aggression", some rhetoric about the free market - this is libertarianism 101. Most of his talking points are regurgitations of things everyone else got from the Mises Institute before he even heard about libertarianism.
@AntiFringeElements The talk about emergence already was done by people like Hayek, and much more eloquently. Most of his economic talking points are either reiterations of Mises, or actual deviations from Austrian econ that has more of a resemblance to neo-classical economics. Almost none of it is original, and a good deal of it is preaching to the choir with things that people who already are into right-wing libertarianism learned long before he came on the scene.
@AntiFringeElements The talk about statist atheists being inconsistent was done by me and others before him, nothing new. The notion of restrictive covenants he sued to harp on, as well as his anti-democracy sentiment to the point of trivializing monarchy, was lifted straight from Hans Hoppe. The concept of "the marginal state" relies on a notion identical to Eteine La Boetie's piece on voluntary servitude, which libertarians have long since championed. None of this is new.
@AntiFringeElements If that's your metric for "regurgitation" then everyone fucking regurgitates shit. He pulled a dick move, but face it, he was and is not stupid. And no, I wasn't aware that you pwned him on the morality part of your debates, he 'avoids calling it morality' because morality is bullshit.
@darklord220 Well, yes, youtube anti-statism largely is an echo chamber of people preaching to the choir, with some cliche reoccuring debates with liberals. That's part of why it gets tiring. As for the morality thing, my point is that whether or not he is a meta-ethical realist he relies on all of the normative premises that standard libertarians who are meta-ethical realists do - making the morality/non-morality thing kind of irrelevant in such a context.
@AntiFringeElements Relying on normative premises and appealing to them are two COMPLETELY different things. I appeal to moralizing libertarians all the time, but that does not necessarily mean I somehow accept their position.
@darklord220 He actually relies on them in that the libertarianism 101 arguments that he makes depend entirely on them. I didn't say he accepts the position in terms of theoretical justifications, I'm saying that he implicitly relies on taking them for granted in order for his arguments against the state to have any authority at all.
@AntiFringeElements Does he rely on them or appeal to them? He openly states he is a moral nihilist, so I don't see any reliance on normative premises. Appealing to certain norms/values for the sake of debate and convincing someone is not a reflection of what position one holds personally, necessarily.
@darklord220 Saying you're a moral nihilist doesn't automatically mean that you don't rely on normative premises. People rely on normative premises all the time, especially in political discourse. And I'm not talking at the level of what FE holds personally, I'm talking at the level of what premises are necessary for his argumentation to have authority. Those are particular normative premises associated with libertarianism.
@darklord220 No, I have not made Hoppe's argument that you are disproven by the act of argueing - that's something I've consistently rejected, actually. All that I have done is insisted that people's arguments depend on normative premises, and thus if they sincerely hold that normativity is completely epistemologically null, then noone has any reason to accept the authority of their arguments. My purpose is to undermine anyone claiming to be above normativity.
@darklord220 My original contention which you have side-tracked into this debate was simply that FE's arguments are often libertarianism 101 talking points that depend on certain normative premises. I explicitly did not argue that this refutes moral nihilism. What have argued is that people's claims to be above normative premises is bullshit, and that such arguments have no authority to noone who doesn't already accept those normative premises.
@darklord220 The distinction you're trying to make is not meaningful. The actual arguments he makes both *depends* on and *appeals to* normative premises.
@AntiFringeElements Dude, you basically just said "no, u". I don't care if you don't think the distinction is meaningful or not, "appealing to and relying on" are different acts.
@darklord220 You're basically creating a side-track from what the point is. By "depend on", I mean "must be the case in order for the rest to follow". It doesn't refer to belief on the part of the arguer. The arguments depend on normative premises in that the conclusions reached stand or fall with the authority or truth value of those premises. If such premises are epistemically null or it is an open-ended game, then anyone else can argue for the opposite politics with just as much authority.
@AntiFringeElements No, it's not. And, somehow I knew you'd make that comment instead of appreciating what I was trying to say. Both you and Stodles are lame in my book.
I am surprised the white nationalist thing is going on still. Stodles is such a dramawhore and Brainpolice is like a more rational voice. Somehow they make perfect nemesis.
@TheElMoIsEviL The social stigma attached to racialist views fuels his paranoia, leading him to quickly conclude that people are trying to get him censored or banned, and ironically leading him to engage in precisely those kind of tactics. It allows him to play the victim for having to face the consequences of holding such views relative to the current - intersubjective consensus.
@AntiFringeElements : might I suggest opening a real second account without reference to him. I have successfully ignored him for years until this bullshit.
otoh, just my 2 cents, for all I care you can adopt him as a full time issue.
@pyrrho314 I don't intend to use this as a main account. I intend to get my original account back, if youtube gets back to me. But if I were to try to make a new account, yes, this wouldn't be it.
@pyrrho314 I didn't take it too critically. I definitely wouldn't want to start back a consistent video-making escapade with my name refering to him, even negatively.
"It is doubtful if the oppressed ever fight for freedom. They fight for pride and power — power to oppress others. The oppressed want above all to imitate their oppressors; they want to retaliate. "
"The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready he is to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause."
"It is easier to hate an enemy with much good in him than one who is all bad. We cannot hate those we despise."
@XOmniverse after fringeelement's immature stunt on brainpolice, he's conjured up the same hate he conjured up in his white nationalist days. the college drop out of a STATE supported school, overcompensating on the net w/ anti statist prose, warring with everyone, trying 2b granddad of anti state, hanging out in berkeley(?) & doing porn with no real future but the internet. 144educalion and brainpolice2 and the old crowd aren't too pleased baby. SEEK CHRIST!
i disagree that ryan is still ambiguous about racism. its pretty evident that he isnt a racist anymore by the things he says in his videos. the immigration videos are a good example. the guy i suspect of still being a closet racist is spawktalk and hes the one defending you here. funny how that works.
FTR, i dont think ryan should have done that and i agree that he overreacts about a ton of things. this really isnt as bad as what he did to aaron.
@oiuoiu988 I said he was ambiguous about it a year ago, in reference to stickcam convos. I was refering to the present. But with respect to the present, I dont see how anyone can say he isn't a racist still given his ressurection of the race and IQ stuff.
well you should read thomas sowell's work on race and iq and you will see that the most respected black philosopher/economist on the planet pretty much says the same things ryan says about it. the difference, if any, being that sowell will stress the idea that the genes will mutate with social improvements...
i should note that it is a little weird that ryan titled the series, "the series that needed to be done", but i think thats just a reaction to all the idiots that wanna appeal to some racial testing bias. or perhaps he is still consumed by proving himself right in the argument with you. either way it doesnt amount to racism.
"well you should read thomas sowell's work on race and iq and you will see that the most respected black philosopher/economist on the planet pretty much says the same things ryan says about it."
On an issue he's not qualified to talk about. He is not a psychologist, sociologist, biologist, or an anthropologist. Fine if you want reference him on economics.
@darklord220 She is my ex, yes. But with one minor exception that wasn't really a theft (I grabbed some quarter rolls she had because I needed cigarette money, with the intention of paying her back, but I told her about it), I can't think of anything she can possibly be refering to in order to claim that I stole from here.
yeah, its weird when you go to a random persons youtube profile and they have fringeelements as their sole subscriber. he must have subscribed to millions through these bots.
Ryan's not much of a racist any more. Or at least he doesn't much care for the topic. Tho you make it sound as racism in itself is a bad thing, which is of course in line with general consensus, which is tho, ridiculous! Also, I haven't heard him say you wanted to get him banned. Also, about dropping dox: Your dox have always been all over the place. You dropped your own dox mang.
Dude, what are you rambling on about "shady" tactics. Why should you be defending Ryan getting banned in the past when you've just "been banned" yourself. Ryan uses bots. That's how anyone on youtube ever gets big (for the most part) lmao.
Heh, heh, you certainly know your hypothetical imperatives... you see, IF you value your life, you would do well to stay away from my children. Otherwise, by all means, attempt to "fondle," and you will quickly see how a .32 Auto round feels through the chest :)
I don't even think this is the worst he's done. His attempts to spread a rumor about Aaron being a pedophile and trying to use it to harm his business was probably the worst.
I don't think he accused you of getting him banned lol. However, this was quite an assholish move, even to you brainpolice. "Ryan" does behave like a spoiled brat too often.
@stealthswimmer Even being a huge jerk by itself has negatively affected his reputation, and it's definitely not like I've single-handedly created that perception. Plenty of others have figured thast out all on their own.
Mr John Lennon, welcome back. You have once more set yourself up to fail. Anti. Anti? You shouldn't be "Anti" anything.
miavaso 4 months ago
It's good that you bounced back rather than let fringeelements defeat you. There is a dark humour in the fact that he masquerades as some kind of libertarian while using relentlessly authoritarian tactics against his opponents on You Tube. Like Adolf Hitler fringeelements has an obsessive hatred of any dissent from his outlook. If he ever got his hands on a state-apparatus, far from dismantling it I am sure that he would use it to crush his opponents.
atticana 8 months ago
Where is brainpolice2? He is greatly missed.
0rbis2010 9 months ago 4
@TheElMoIsEviL
"As an individual who is predominantly a Libertarian Mutualist" since when have you ever been a mutualist?
SecularNumanist 1 year ago
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Swampymcswamp 1 year ago
I can't believe all the silly drama that goes on with people on the internet. I just want to ridicule people's beliefs; why make it personal?
EdmundCarlyle 1 year ago 2
lol cry some more
StatelessEuphoria 1 year ago
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Live4Him3v16 1 year ago
I think that CS is pretty emotionally stunted. All of his childish behavior seems to be driven by this impulse to transgress boundaries. National socialism, Anarchism, his internet trickery, all seem to be about crossing boundaries and trying to justify it. That ain't necessarily bad, but it's compulsive. I feel for the kid, I think he's been through some rough shit, and this transgressive behavior is his way of taking back control of his identity. But the boy need catharsis, healing.
Jcolinsol 1 year ago
I almost cried when I found out Stodles was gay, because I'm bisexual and I've noticed that a lot of people use his bitchiness as an excuse for their own heterosexism. I'm amazed you managed to stay so calm. Reminds me of some kids who shot a heron at a watershed and then intentionally dumped broken glass at the nearby playground. That's the kind of guy Stodles seems like. National anarchism sucks, Stodles sucks, and if you still support Stodles after this, you suck.
vaguelyhumanoid 1 year ago
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vaguelyhumanoid 1 year ago
lol 'national anarchism' lololol
pazomblez 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
Social class is partially determined by IQ- you're smarter, you're more likely to progress in society. To say that social class causes low IQ is to reverse the order of causation.
It's funny that you call FE narrow minded, despite the fact that HE is the one taking the controversial position, and you're the one taking the common position.
If races are, on average, intellectually different, we cannot ascribe differences of outcome to racism. That's what this debate is about.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
The racial trait is when the forces of natural selection, sexual selection and genetic drift eventually culminate in one race, on average, having a quality noticeably different from other races. I could make the observation that "German Shepards are big dogs," and, even if you find a small German Shepard, the tendency still exists.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
The fact that you think one exception invalidates the general tendency just shows that you don't understand the concept of a "correlation."
Furthermore, I offered to provide scholarly papers on the matter. You ignored that offer, which just goes to show you put more significance in your personal prejudices than actual science, despite your condescending attitude and thinly-veiled implications of intellectual superiority.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
this may be a new low for stodles but it's somewhat expected behaviour from given what he's like. what i find interesting is your girlfriend in this whole thing. it's hard to assimilate that she actually contacted him.
fede2 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
If you're trying to claim that he's a "white supremacist," that contradicts nearly all of his videos on race differences in IQ, in which he CONSISTENTLY claims that Northeast Asians (i.e. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese) have higher average IQ's than whites and are less criminally predisposed.
You simply fail to understand the difference in prescriptive and descriptive claims. Saying a race has a lower average intellect is not wishing it to be so; it's making a claim about reality.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
To me, vanilla is superior to chocolate- vanilla flatters my personal values better than chocolate. To say "intellectual superiority" is identical to "superiority" is to claim that intellectual ability is the only thing that matters in a person, which is a very ironic thing to put in a vid comment about FE, who was an undeniably smart, albeit shady, person. You're the one playing the games, trying to reduce real arguments to simple "superior/inferior" dichotomies to incriminate.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
He didn't say that intellect is CALCULATED by brain size, he said it was CORRELATED with brain size. Blatant straw man. (Brain size is indeed positively correlated with IQ; if you want the names of relevant studies, ask me and I'll PM you.)
Plus, open mindedness is not synonymous with intelligence; it's closer to creativity, which is related to intelligence but not identical.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
Hey, great to see you're back
niriop 1 year ago
Lol at the irony of your description.
Shezmu 1 year ago
Damn, he's more messed up than I realized. Glad to see you back.
buddhagem 1 year ago
Dude, you need to press charges. He can't keep getting away with stuff like this.
Mastikator 1 year ago
douchebaggery
TheBigHo111 1 year ago
Good name, but not as good as mine.
bbbbbbblob 1 year ago
-"I'm not a reductionist even though morallity doesn't exist because of the lack of material." ...
*Luddite makes a video about the contradiction* ...
-"I'm a reductionist and you are emotive, mystical, and retarded if you are not.blah blah"
Gettinghitonattheban 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL
Stodles NEVER said anything about "racial superiority"- he said things about the genetic basis for intellectual and behavioral traits and how they apply to population genetics and sociology. You could agree with that or disagree, I don't care. "Superior" is a subjective value judgement that he wasn't making. To say he talked of "racial superiority" is an obvious, blatant and intentional strawman.
That being said, I don't sympathize with him. He acts like a kid.
unicornmagik666 1 year ago
@unicornmagik666
So, arguing that one race is genetically predisposed to be violent, uncivilized criminals and intellectually inferior to the other races is NOT the same as arguing for racial superiority? What -is-, then?
TheGravitationist 1 year ago
Dude, he's an asshole. It would take a really childish and immature guy to do that
NoSlaveToday 1 year ago
@NoSlaveToday
i agree but anyone dumb enough to give his passwords to his gf, then steal from her, then not change his passwords kinda deserves this. i'd definitely do the same thing to thundertard if i could get his password, just to piss him off. in the end, i'm really hoping ryan put those videos somewhere where they can be recovered.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I didn't give it to her, she noted it behind my dad's back on a computer screen. I didn't steal from her, I have no idea what that claim refers to. Furthermore, even if all your premises were right, you'd still be engaging in a weak rationalization. If someone leaves their door unlocked, or if their ex-girlfriend has a key, does this mean they deserved to be robbed? That's victim-blaming nonsense. These kind of rationalizations reveal that you people have no moral sense.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
you admit to stealing a roles of quarters from her on this very page, do you honestly think the fact that you want cigarettes gives you the right to take property from everyone else??
"These kind of rationalizations reveal that you people have no moral sense."
this statement reveals that you have no argument. what is it about your moral sense that tells you stealing is ok if its only metal money, or if you want cigarettes...
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I didn't steal a role of quarters, I let her know about it. And I haven't argued that stealing is okay - the whole stealing thing here is a bizarre attempt at rationalization for retribution, and I honestly have no clue what it could meaningfully be refering to. It seems like a flat out lie based on my knowledge. In either case, it still would be ridiculously disproportionate to try to sabotage someone's entire social internet experience (including e-mail) because they took 10 dollars
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
this is youre comment from below
But with one minor exception that wasn't really a theft (I grabbed some quarter rolls she had because I needed cigarette money, with the intention of paying her back, but I told her about it), I can't think of anything she can possibly be refering to in order to claim that I stole from here.
how is that not stealing? because thats all im going off of, not the accusation. if you had asked and she said yes, it wouldnt be stealing. duh.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 My fucking christ, he took some quarters and then when confronted said he took them. What a fucking tyrant! The little princess had some quarters taken away from her!!! Holy fuck man, call the fucking police!!
Why the fuck are you even bringing this up? Stop pretending you're a critical thinker on the fringes of society and just admit that you've been hustled by an insane person. At this point, you're acting like a fucking cult member to justify FE's authoritarianism.
NoMoreSunsets 1 year ago
@NoMoreSunsets
i never said it was the worst thing ever. but it was stealing, thanks for clearing that up. this was brought up by other people and admitted to by alex before i mentioned it. i was an an-cap way before ryan, anyone who's anti-statism depends on ryan (spawk and probably some junior high kids) can become statists now for all i care.
p.s. i said i was on alex's side on this issue like 15 times on this page, thanks for reading1
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@NoMoreSunsets Careful. If you call it authoritarianism, people are going to tell you that that means nothing in this context. I assume that they are all on some profound level I'm not aware of.
BacchanalianJ 1 year ago
@NoMoreSunsets It wasn't quarters. It was a $20 bill. The theft was petty, but trust was breached. And he didn't fess up to it until I confronted him directly and couldn't have had the intention of paying me back because he's flat broke.
All of that aside, it just reveals another shitty aspect of his character; it's not the primary reason I can't stand him anymore.
anastasiaw 1 year ago
@anastasiaw That's cool. I'm not going to interfere in your affairs. I don't know the whole story and so it was wrong of me to say anything. However, you have put this out in the public and that seems to be intentional. Plus, password sharing is a illegal and considered theft.
NoMoreSunsets 1 year ago
@NoMoreSunsets Not exactly intentional. Perhaps forseeable, but I didn't expect Ryan to remove all of BP's videos and announce that he had done it. It's not the course of action I would have recommended. But once it was out, there was nothing to do but to fess up.
anastasiaw 1 year ago
@NoMoreSunsets And yeah, there are a lot of laws that are out of proportion with the crime.
For instance, willfully and knowingly reading someone else's mail is a Federal offense, but it would be silly of me to press charges for BP reading mail addressed to me without my consent.
anastasiaw 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 BrainPolice2 does not deserve it. He's just not paranoid.
NoSlaveToday 1 year ago
Ryan really knows how to stir the shit, doesn't he?
UcanbeGOD 1 year ago
I just can't understand why nobody has organised a flagging down of FE''s account yet. Someone just can't get away with overriding someone's channel on youtube, surely? This is unheard of.
Dangerman5 1 year ago
You really do have to get organised to get youtube to do anything about things like this. Remember he's not even supposed to be on youtube in the first place but has had this account up and running for ages. Someone needs to do a video saying we have to complain to youtube.
Dangerman5 1 year ago
@Dangerman5
that would be pretty useless considering he has a ton of followers on facebook, twitter and other sites. he will inevitably lose subscribers and fans because of this but the fact that you want to limit his ability to speak freely because of this indiscretion just shows your true colors. you only like free speech when people agree with you... im obviously not on ryans side on this issue but 2 wrongs dont make a right and youtube needs ryan more than ryan needs youtube at this point.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 How you can refer to *others* here has limiting people's free speech, while Ryan Faulk literally shut down and took over my speech-space, is beyond me. You must have a really twisted sense of things or really have your head up Ryan Faulk's ass. Speaking of two wrongs not making a right, that's his whole rationalization for this. Simple-minded retributionism that isn't even based on facts.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
because you made a new channel, your ability to speak freely is unmitigated. i'm not on ryans side here, i believe ive made that abundantly clear, 2 wrongs DONT make a right.
how can you respond to this comment but ignore my comment from yesterday when we were in the middle of a conversation about sowell's views on race and IQ? i shouldnt even be answering you.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I made a new channel because otherwise I would have been voiceless. As for your comment about Sowell, I honestly am forced to shrug and say that Sowell is a pawn/tool.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
wow... you truly are a moron and an intellectual coward. is sowell part of the conspiracy?? look at the bright side dude, those videos of you sucking at guitar arent on the internet anymore.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
"look at the bright side dude, those videos of you sucking at guitar arent on the internet anymore."
If there is one thing that is not true about brainpolice, is that he sucks at guitar.
ThisBoyisExhausted 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted It's amazing what people will say in an attempt at shaming or to try to hurt someone's feelings, isn't it? The funny part is that I've been going to open mic nights recently and have developed a local following, and keep getting offers for paid gigs almost every week.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
Sounds like you have professional jazz training and could probably hit the changes on Giant Steps. Ridiculous that someone would say you suck at guitar.
ThisBoyisExhausted 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted I do have some jazz training, although I must say that I've always been too intimidated to take a stab at giant steps. Those changes go by really quickly. But I also never looked at a lead sheet or chord chart for giant steps, so maybe if I did that I'd get used to it over time.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
i transcribed and learned changes+melody for giant steps 10 years ago... i wasnt saying you (currently) suck at guitar as much as i was saying there were some videos i saw of you playing that were kinda bad. i cant say how old they were so im not trying to say you suck now. youre not even a little embarrassed by the playing on some of those?? do you think ur better now?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements Welcome back. You were missed.
polymath7 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted
i can play the changes and melody at the same time for giant steps and i could 10 years ago.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988
I'm not calling for him to be banned from other spaces in which he operates, but you just cannot override someone else's right to free speech and remove their videos and there not be some punishment. Remember the outrage that VFX DMCAed a few videos? This is much worse than that in my book - DMCAs are like stealing from someone's house, but closing down someone's account is like knocking down the whole house. The community just can't allow this.
This is quite a special case.
Dangerman5 1 year ago
@Dangerman5
whether ryan ought to be deleted from yt for this or not, he did not override anyone's right to free speech. if anything he destroyed property, oh wait, you dont believe in property, do you??
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988
you previously claimed I want to limit FE's ability to speak freely because I think he should lose his channel for this, yet now you're claiming FE did NOT override Brainpolice's ability to speak freely by removing his account. You're clearly a fanboy who can't get his story straight.
And why would I not believe in private property? Some kind of troll smear?
Beat it, kid.
Dangerman5 1 year ago
@Dangerman5
i never said he should lose his channel for this, youre confusing me with someone else.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
I highly doubt any of the youtube anti-statists who followed fringeelement's ideas actually thought he was a great person. He had a following because of his ideas, not because of his stellar personality. I had always known he was immature, but I had no clue that it was to this extent.
Dabba23 1 year ago 6
@Dabba23 I'm not sure what special or original ideas there are to talk about. A decent portion of it is regurgitated libertarianism 101, sometimes given new buzzwords or propogated through new memes.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements No, libertarianism 101 is moralizing poopoo and you know it, and that is obviously not what Ryan espoused. Ignoring how much you disagree with his positions, he was at the very least different than the run of the mill libertarian. In fact, I think you're videos are more libertarianism 101 with new buzzwords (thick libertarianism anyone) and some memes.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 Hedoes espouse libertarianism 101, including some of its implicit moral premises. He avoids calling it morality and rationalizing it, but he relies on the staple libertarian premises about the nature of government. "Taxation is theft", "the government initiates aggression", some rhetoric about the free market - this is libertarianism 101. Most of his talking points are regurgitations of things everyone else got from the Mises Institute before he even heard about libertarianism.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements The talk about emergence already was done by people like Hayek, and much more eloquently. Most of his economic talking points are either reiterations of Mises, or actual deviations from Austrian econ that has more of a resemblance to neo-classical economics. Almost none of it is original, and a good deal of it is preaching to the choir with things that people who already are into right-wing libertarianism learned long before he came on the scene.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements The talk about statist atheists being inconsistent was done by me and others before him, nothing new. The notion of restrictive covenants he sued to harp on, as well as his anti-democracy sentiment to the point of trivializing monarchy, was lifted straight from Hans Hoppe. The concept of "the marginal state" relies on a notion identical to Eteine La Boetie's piece on voluntary servitude, which libertarians have long since championed. None of this is new.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements If that's your metric for "regurgitation" then everyone fucking regurgitates shit. He pulled a dick move, but face it, he was and is not stupid. And no, I wasn't aware that you pwned him on the morality part of your debates, he 'avoids calling it morality' because morality is bullshit.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 Well, yes, youtube anti-statism largely is an echo chamber of people preaching to the choir, with some cliche reoccuring debates with liberals. That's part of why it gets tiring. As for the morality thing, my point is that whether or not he is a meta-ethical realist he relies on all of the normative premises that standard libertarians who are meta-ethical realists do - making the morality/non-morality thing kind of irrelevant in such a context.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements Relying on normative premises and appealing to them are two COMPLETELY different things. I appeal to moralizing libertarians all the time, but that does not necessarily mean I somehow accept their position.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 He actually relies on them in that the libertarianism 101 arguments that he makes depend entirely on them. I didn't say he accepts the position in terms of theoretical justifications, I'm saying that he implicitly relies on taking them for granted in order for his arguments against the state to have any authority at all.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements Does he rely on them or appeal to them? He openly states he is a moral nihilist, so I don't see any reliance on normative premises. Appealing to certain norms/values for the sake of debate and convincing someone is not a reflection of what position one holds personally, necessarily.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 Saying you're a moral nihilist doesn't automatically mean that you don't rely on normative premises. People rely on normative premises all the time, especially in political discourse. And I'm not talking at the level of what FE holds personally, I'm talking at the level of what premises are necessary for his argumentation to have authority. Those are particular normative premises associated with libertarianism.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements Reliance does not equal acceptance, hence why I am stressing the importance of appealing in order to have discourse.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 Once again, your shift to the question of acceptance is irrelevant to my point.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements I didn't shift a damn thing, I've actually said the same fucking thing in about four comments in a row.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 That same thing is irrelevant to the context.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements How? What you are doing is akin to hoppe's argumentation ethics nonsense. Implicit assumptions upon argumentation lol.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 No, I have not made Hoppe's argument that you are disproven by the act of argueing - that's something I've consistently rejected, actually. All that I have done is insisted that people's arguments depend on normative premises, and thus if they sincerely hold that normativity is completely epistemologically null, then noone has any reason to accept the authority of their arguments. My purpose is to undermine anyone claiming to be above normativity.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@darklord220 My original contention which you have side-tracked into this debate was simply that FE's arguments are often libertarianism 101 talking points that depend on certain normative premises. I explicitly did not argue that this refutes moral nihilism. What have argued is that people's claims to be above normative premises is bullshit, and that such arguments have no authority to noone who doesn't already accept those normative premises.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements His arguments didn't depend on normative premises, he appealed to normative premises, I already said that.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 The distinction you're trying to make is not meaningful. The actual arguments he makes both *depends* on and *appeals to* normative premises.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements Dude, you basically just said "no, u". I don't care if you don't think the distinction is meaningful or not, "appealing to and relying on" are different acts.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 You're basically creating a side-track from what the point is. By "depend on", I mean "must be the case in order for the rest to follow". It doesn't refer to belief on the part of the arguer. The arguments depend on normative premises in that the conclusions reached stand or fall with the authority or truth value of those premises. If such premises are epistemically null or it is an open-ended game, then anyone else can argue for the opposite politics with just as much authority.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements No, it's not. And, somehow I knew you'd make that comment instead of appreciating what I was trying to say. Both you and Stodles are lame in my book.
Dabba23 1 year ago
@Dabba23 "No, it's not?" It sure seems like it. I guess you have to work a bit harder for that appreciation.
IntractableJ 1 year ago
@Dabba23 : really? his ideas? I have not seen any of his videos for ages... but I just assumed it was cause he's purty.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
Hihi, that was epic.
I am surprised the white nationalist thing is going on still. Stodles is such a dramawhore and Brainpolice is like a more rational voice. Somehow they make perfect nemesis.
Svankmajer 1 year ago 2
Fringe is never going to grow up until someone beats the fuck out of him, either physically or legally.
trajan74 1 year ago
Dammit. Every time I think FE is maturing a little bit he does some stupid shit like this.
AtheistAltar 1 year ago
@TheElMoIsEviL The social stigma attached to racialist views fuels his paranoia, leading him to quickly conclude that people are trying to get him censored or banned, and ironically leading him to engage in precisely those kind of tactics. It allows him to play the victim for having to face the consequences of holding such views relative to the current - intersubjective consensus.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@ AntiFringeElements I don't think this is ever going to end. I seriously think he's personally obsessed with you.
RegainedSanity 1 year ago
@RegainedSanity It seems that way.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements : might I suggest opening a real second account without reference to him. I have successfully ignored him for years until this bullshit.
otoh, just my 2 cents, for all I care you can adopt him as a full time issue.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 I don't intend to use this as a main account. I intend to get my original account back, if youtube gets back to me. But if I were to try to make a new account, yes, this wouldn't be it.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements : of course, i spoke too soon. knee jerk comment there, but not meant to be critical.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 I didn't take it too critically. I definitely wouldn't want to start back a consistent video-making escapade with my name refering to him, even negatively.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
"It is doubtful if the oppressed ever fight for freedom. They fight for pride and power — power to oppress others. The oppressed want above all to imitate their oppressors; they want to retaliate. "
"The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready he is to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause."
"It is easier to hate an enemy with much good in him than one who is all bad. We cannot hate those we despise."
Eric Hoffer
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse Those are intended as commentary on Ryan Faulk, to be clear.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse Yea, I figured. The bit about lust for power is relevant, although I'm really not sure if it makes much sense to consider FE "oppressed".
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@XOmniverse I'm not sure how universal those sentiments really are, but it's certainly something to chew on.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@XOmniverse
thumbs down.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 Fuck you too, I guess.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse
thats not nice. bp basically said the same thing i said but took longer to say it. your comments were a reach.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I wasn't trying to be nice.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse
you werent trying to support your comments with an argument either...
weeeeeeeird.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I didn't realize "Fuck you" needed an argument. It's not an argument for an external position but an expression of feeling.
So, fuck you again.
XOmniverse 1 year ago 5
@XOmniverse LOL!
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@XOmniverse
youre an idiot, i meant you made no argument supporting why those silly quotes are appropriate or relevant to this situation.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@XOmniverse hehe!
yeahwotevaman 1 year ago
@XOmniverse after fringeelement's immature stunt on brainpolice, he's conjured up the same hate he conjured up in his white nationalist days. the college drop out of a STATE supported school, overcompensating on the net w/ anti statist prose, warring with everyone, trying 2b granddad of anti state, hanging out in berkeley(?) & doing porn with no real future but the internet. 144educalion and brainpolice2 and the old crowd aren't too pleased baby. SEEK CHRIST!
itrubbsthelotion 1 year ago
meh youtube drama some people just need to grow up...
DerrEinzige 1 year ago
@DerrEinzige My baby's mama is all grown up...
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
I know of what little consequence it is if i unsub to fringeelements, but hell it will be symbolic anyway...
Internet turns people into dickwads
Nebelung13 1 year ago
welcome back
sue the fucker for destruction of intellectual property.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Im just not sure if it would end up paying off. I could end up just spending money.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
oh well...
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
@StatelessCapitalist Bit like walking down the pavement lol
yeahwotevaman 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman - There's also the fact that he doesn't have much of a choice if he wants to do something about the prick.
Shezmu 1 year ago
there would definitely be war in anarchy..
sexdrugsRnR 1 year ago
@sexdrugsRnR there is definitely war now.
ExistentialExistent 1 year ago
@StatelessCapitalist
its not hypocritical at all, anti-statists do not oppose the concept of law.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
*popcorn*
ImperviousMason 1 year ago 8
@ImperviousMason haha yes..
sexdrugsRnR 1 year ago
I assume that if fringeelements has said is true, you've changed all your passwords. What a bitch.
It sucks. You had some amazing videos there, and now they're all gone.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
i disagree that ryan is still ambiguous about racism. its pretty evident that he isnt a racist anymore by the things he says in his videos. the immigration videos are a good example. the guy i suspect of still being a closet racist is spawktalk and hes the one defending you here. funny how that works.
FTR, i dont think ryan should have done that and i agree that he overreacts about a ton of things. this really isnt as bad as what he did to aaron.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 I said he was ambiguous about it a year ago, in reference to stickcam convos. I was refering to the present. But with respect to the present, I dont see how anyone can say he isn't a racist still given his ressurection of the race and IQ stuff.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements *wasnt refering to the present*
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
nothin, huh?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements
well you should read thomas sowell's work on race and iq and you will see that the most respected black philosopher/economist on the planet pretty much says the same things ryan says about it. the difference, if any, being that sowell will stress the idea that the genes will mutate with social improvements...
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
i should note that it is a little weird that ryan titled the series, "the series that needed to be done", but i think thats just a reaction to all the idiots that wanna appeal to some racial testing bias. or perhaps he is still consumed by proving himself right in the argument with you. either way it doesnt amount to racism.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988
"well you should read thomas sowell's work on race and iq and you will see that the most respected black philosopher/economist on the planet pretty much says the same things ryan says about it."
On an issue he's not qualified to talk about. He is not a psychologist, sociologist, biologist, or an anthropologist. Fine if you want reference him on economics.
ThisBoyisExhausted 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted
lolol this just goes to show how little you know about 2 things, economics and thomas sowell...
Great Job!
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988
"lolol this just goes to show how little you know about 2 things, economics and thomas sowell..."
lolol, race isn't a valid biological construct.This just goes to show how little you know little about 2 things, physical anthropology and genetics.
ThisBoyisExhausted 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted
that doesnt even conflict with anything ive said.
you lose.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@ThisBoyisExhausted "On an issue he's not qualified to talk about."
Arthur Jensen is qualified to talk about this issue:
udel. edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years. pdf
hitssquad 1 year ago
did you steal shit from anastasia
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 I have no idea what that is supposed to refer to. What exactly is the claim?
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements i don't know, ryan said you were an asshole and you stole money from your ex. was anastasia your ex? im so confused.
darklord220 1 year ago
@darklord220 She is my ex, yes. But with one minor exception that wasn't really a theft (I grabbed some quarter rolls she had because I needed cigarette money, with the intention of paying her back, but I told her about it), I can't think of anything she can possibly be refering to in order to claim that I stole from here.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
yeah, its weird when you go to a random persons youtube profile and they have fringeelements as their sole subscriber. he must have subscribed to millions through these bots.
Oppp2 1 year ago
Ryan's not much of a racist any more. Or at least he doesn't much care for the topic. Tho you make it sound as racism in itself is a bad thing, which is of course in line with general consensus, which is tho, ridiculous! Also, I haven't heard him say you wanted to get him banned. Also, about dropping dox: Your dox have always been all over the place. You dropped your own dox mang.
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
Dude, what are you rambling on about "shady" tactics. Why should you be defending Ryan getting banned in the past when you've just "been banned" yourself. Ryan uses bots. That's how anyone on youtube ever gets big (for the most part) lmao.
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
@TimothyBragan *shrug* I managed to get over 3k subs with no bots, and not even manually trying to get subs.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
That is not to say that Ryan's move wasn't bad ass and incredibly entertaining. Just that he wasn't particularly smart about it.
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
@TimothyBragan
Still addicted to child porn? Fuck you asshole, you are an absolutely worthless human being. Like FE, eat fecal matter and die pig.
GalileanGuy 1 year ago
@GalileanGuy
I love you too mang... gotta love ya too...
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
@TimothyBragan
Thanks brotha...Love the love. Just stay away from the children you pedo bastard, eh?
GalileanGuy 1 year ago
@GalileanGuy
I'd make some joke about fonding yours, but I don't want to touch those. So fuck you.
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
@TimothyBragan
*fondling
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
@TimothyBragan
Heh, heh, you certainly know your hypothetical imperatives... you see, IF you value your life, you would do well to stay away from my children. Otherwise, by all means, attempt to "fondle," and you will quickly see how a .32 Auto round feels through the chest :)
GalileanGuy 1 year ago
@GalileanGuy for a moral realist, you sure do have an immense amount of hatred for internets users.
darklord220 1 year ago
You both deserve to be banned for your stupidity. The free market of reality has chosen its daily victims!
TimothyBragan 1 year ago
A new low for Ryan. He has spread rumors about you (and myself to a much lesser degree) and I thought it par for the course. But this...
ThePunkReturns 1 year ago
@ThePunkReturns
I don't even think this is the worst he's done. His attempts to spread a rumor about Aaron being a pedophile and trying to use it to harm his business was probably the worst.
Rorshak1313 1 year ago
@Rorshak1313 Yea, I recall that one.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
I don't think he accused you of getting him banned lol. However, this was quite an assholish move, even to you brainpolice. "Ryan" does behave like a spoiled brat too often.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy That's what the text he put in the sidebar of my channel implies.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@StatelessCapitalist To the extent that this is a real invasion of privacy (particular with the e-mail), that really isn't that unreasonable.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
"AntiFringeElements" ? Way to carry on the feud >_<
Anarchyland2 1 year ago
@Anarchyland2 Those who wish to maintain an air of neutrality in the name of avoiding conflict, when things have reached this point, are enablers.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago
@AntiFringeElements "Enablers" - A term used by those who desire conflict to patronise those who will not perpetuate the conflict.
Calling your channel antifringeelements is a childish move in the same vein but not as extreme as fringe's actions.
Anarchyland2 1 year ago
WTF. SOrry to hear all of this.
Professoranton 1 year ago
i think he has abandoned racist views - it's just that he's a jerk
stealthswimmer 1 year ago
@stealthswimmer Even being a huge jerk by itself has negatively affected his reputation, and it's definitely not like I've single-handedly created that perception. Plenty of others have figured thast out all on their own.
AntiFringeElements 1 year ago