to boxing dummies who have no idea wat mma is how can u c omment on a sport vthat when u watch u have no idea whats happening thats like a blind man commenting on what its like to be deaf
Boxing will never die!!! But MMA is much more exciting & entertaining... there's too many weight classes in boxing - too many champions for each weight class (WBO, WBC, ect ect...) too much BS coming from promoters like Bob Arum who is protecting Pacquiao from Mayweather & purposely screwed up negotiations for a Pacquiao/Chavez Jr. fight. I honestly don't understand the whole MMA vs. Boxing thing... why not be a fan of both? They're both combat sports. MMA is better - but boxing won't die.
Now that ufc made that big deal with fox sports, they'll have HUGE opportunities in addition to a chance to show people in other continents how much better & superior they are to boxing (or any sport for that matter). & boxing isn't completely dead but we'll see about that. It WILL be completely dead soon. Just you watch. There won't be any new big name boxing fighters. I bet you. Just watch, all you boxing fans.
@hotcocao55 Do you even realize how foolish this sounds? MMA won't kill boxing. People don't drop one sport for the other. People either like both sports or they prefer one and not the other. Its such a huge myth that the growth of one equates to the downfall of the other.
To say that a sport like boxing will just flat out die is fuckin' ridiculous. I'm beginning to think that the average MMA fan doesn't have a fully functioning brain, with all these foolish claims they make.
@BazookaIke Yeah, i realized how foolish it sounded right after pressing the "reply" button. It was too late. I know boxing won't ever die. But i still think mma is superior to boxing when it comes to real fights.
@hotcocao55 To each and their own. I prefer boxing but watch both. The only people I ever heard claim that they quit on boxing to watch MMA were people who only tuned in to the megafights in boxing. In other words, they were fans of big events, not of the sport itself.
No doubt that boxing is struggling in the USA though. Globally, it is stronger than ever, but in the USA the sport struggles a bit when we don't have a dominant American heavyweight champion.
@BazookaIke But actually, people do drop 1 sport for another. How many boxing fans has ufc stolen from boxing & vice versa? & mma is killing boxing. They're raping them. I love how you try & nitpick these little differences in my logic as if you're some super smart logical person rofl. Yeah, boxing won't flat out die either. But they're getting killed by mma. Same difference. "Its such a huge myth that the growth of one equates to the downfall of the other." lmao get over yourself prick.
@hotcocao55 Prick? LOL......settle down and stop with the exaggerations. That and the factless claims that average MMA guy makes in here are what I have little tolerance for.
@BazookaIke Good lord your grammar sucks. I couldn't understand your last sentence. You mean you can't tolerate mma guy*s? Anyway, if you don't like my so-called "exaggerations" too bad, faggot. You're the one making an issue out of a non issue by nitpicking little differences in my logic to better your image as a more intelligent "keyboard" gladiator. Grow a penis.
@hotcocao55 My last sentence makes good sense. You're too fucking stupid to comprehend, which tells me you are the average MMA fan.......a stupid god damn white trash honkey. Enough of you, fuckface!!
@wDoucheCanoe No, not really. You should back up your claims with facts. UFC PPVs actually have been down quite a bit lately. They have two big draws right now.......GSP and Lesnar. I'm betting that Velasquez vs. dos Santos will do pretty well also. I don't know if it will do as well as Lesnar and GSP though. Anyways....outside of those two big draws, UFC is not selling out arenas and putting up the big numbers that you say.
@BazookaIke Sorry i meant MMA in general. Not only UFC, but there is Strikeforce. Boxing is dead. Have you seen the Fan Base of the UFC vs Boxing? The fact is there are more UFC fans then Boxing, or atleast MMA fans. I can watch boxing on espn,SHOWTIME,HBO, without having to pay for it. You dont hear about boxing, anymore. All you hear about is UFC. Boxing use to be everything, but now UFC is stepping in. Sorry.
@wDoucheCanoe No need to say MMA. Strikeforce is almost dead. MMA is the UFC. They control it all, now that they have acquired Strikeforce.
Boxing is not dead. Its not as strong in North America as it used to be, but that doesn't mean its dead. Boxing is huge on other continents yet. Just because you don't know this doesn't make it untrue. Like I've said in here countless times........MMA fanboys just parrot the words of Dana White. They don't bring facts to back these false claims.
@wDoucheCanoe More ignorant comments. You're only speaking about American PPVs. Clearly you have no clue about boxing internationally.
You're not really comparing similar cards either. Boxing doesn't stack a card for their PPV events like UFC does. They spread them out over several smaller cards that end up on HBO Boxing after Dark or on Showtime champinship boxing. Boxing and the UFC are just run differently. Now if we compare Pac or Floyd PPV numbers to UFC's best, the UFC loses.
@BazookaIke No they dont. Seriously just american PPVs? HELL NO! Brazilian,French,and American mostly dude. In a UFC PPV, there is the Main Card, which is the main fight, and few other fights that people are still interested in. UFC is more entertaining to watch, i think most would agree too. Although that is an opinion.
You cannot ,at the moment,compare the popularity of these 2 sports!MMA is well above boxing.Watch the magazines cover at your local store!Even the MMA "cage-girls" are popular as shit.And thats all over the world.GSP almost caused a riot in the Phillipines.Nah...MMA is getting bigger and bigger,and every week theres a MMA gym that open up in the MTL area(so it must be like this all over America).
On a boxing card,there is 1 or 2max,good fights.MMA cards are mostly packed(when every1 is healthy.
@pkl1302 I doubt you have any figures to back up your claim.
PPV numbers in the last several events suggest otherwise. Also.......you grossly exaggerate the excitement of MMA fights across the board. MMA has LOTS of stinkers. Many of their bouts are boring indeed, starting with virtually every bout of one of its top stars in GSP. He is a phenominal fighter but he is boring as shit for those of us who don't care much for wrestling.
@BazookaIke What "figures" do you want?I'm talking abt good fights on any given card!
And I understand your point of view,cuz you are not the only one who dont appreciate the "mixed" part of MMA.
You dont appreciate the technique behind GSP's work by ex.U r mosdef a brawler fan!Right?And its all right,its also part of MMA!There wasnt any wrestling involved in GSP- Koscheck fight,in the Shields fight either(TDD mostly).
And I dont think "I grossly exaggerate the excitement of MMA..."not at all!
@pkl1302 Wrong......I appreciate the "mixed" part of MMA. I just don't enjoy all aspects of it. Much props to those who excel at all aspects of the sport. Its just not exciting in all aspects. An honest voting in a poll would tell you all one needs to know........what do people enjoy more......someone getting KTFO by a punch or getting wrestled to a decision or submitted after being wrestled. Its simple......people love seeing the big KO. MMA dosn't always deliver that.
@pkl1302 As for figures I am asking for.......if you are going to suggest MMA is blowing boxing away, you should provide the PPV numbers or some other hard evidence to back up your claims. I've seen a lot of MMA fanboys make the same claims as you and not a single one of them could come up with one single number. They just talk out of their ass. I know for a fact based on numbers posted on MMA Live that the UFC PPV figures lately have been horrible, with the exception of the last GSP fight
@BazookaIke I never talked abt PPV numbers,not once.All I said is you get more good fights on a MMA card than on a boxing card.I dont talk abt PPV and I dont care abt them.I'm just talking abt what I'm seeing around me(where I live and when I travel).On the net;its full of MMA site.The MMA stars get movie's part,they are on all kind of magazine(not just MMA,but Fitness,women magazines,etc...).Small org r growing faster than pot in BC!
So,like I said,I dont talk abt number,I talk abt what I see.
@pkl1302 OK......well if you don't want to talk numbers then we can only apply your statements to the area around you. For the record, I agree that MMA is probably bigger than boxing at the moment in North America. Globally it is not.
I also don't believe you know how many good fights actually occur in boxing. It seems pretty obvious that you don'tpay much attention to boxing other than a few of the larger bouts that are high profile.
@BazookaIke LOL...not just the area around me,its the internet,the movies,magazines,new gym,etc...(you are avoiding all my points except the number;that you most likely know).And I'm on the road(sky) quite a while,I travel and its my feeling.
But you are right,as for boxing,I only follow the high profile cards and the one with my local fighters.
It was good talking with you dude and have a good one ;) I'm pretty sure both sport will do fine!
@pkl1302 Yes I'm a big fan of both. Boxing needs a big American heavyweight star to bust onto the scene. We love the heavyweights here. Look what they have done fur the division in the UFC. Huge ratings!
yeah right bitches try and get MMA into High schools stuff like that good luck boxing is kicking back into gear know and all its going to take is another bigtime heavyweight and mma is dead and buried remeber when Dana white was saying his ufc event was going to crush floyd mayweathers ppv who won 1 million buys to 300k or whatever the biggest ass kicking in MMA history.
@akahitman007 it will never happen sure boxing could make a comeback but dana was right all the greedy cunts are killing it guys like mayweather who fucking ducks the only fight anyone wants to see and gets away with it. They dont have that pussy luxury in mma as they put on the fights everyone wants to see and the fighters cant duck
@BlackLabelForLife Thats cuz mayweather is retired so he doesnt have to fight, but thats the good thing about ufc if someone cant fight they will fill the slot with someone else.
Yeah, boxing is definitely dieing. After watching UFC for so many years, and boxing before that...It's like boxing represents soft porn, while UFC is full on XXX porn, really the best way i could put it.
@TheAngeltoDemon Hey that's an indictment on your limitations, not on boxing if that's as good as you can put it. I've seen the PPV numbers for the last several PPV events for the UFC. They are not good. The best ones are WAY behind the top PPV events in boxing. Clearly you have no fuckin' clue.
@BazookaIke Well dickwad, why don't you post the numbers. Show me an analysis to prove your point. Your clearly not a UFC fan, so how can i reckon that you have a fucking clue? I used to enjoy boxing, when they would put on good fights, but come on, how the fuck do we not get to see pacqiou/mayweather. Face the facts, aside from random spikes from good fights, boxing is just plain boring and is not attracting new crops of great athletes.the ufc is popular because MMA is as real as it gets.
@TheAngeltoDemon Go watch the last episode of MMA Live on ESPN. They showed the PPV numbers from UFC 126 to present. Most of the numbers were from 200,000+ into the 300,000 range. The two largest PPVs were over 400,000 and 800,000. Boxing's last few major PPV events sold well over 1 million PPVs domestically. Haye vs. Klitschko was on regular HBO in the USA so I don't know their numbers but I'll guarantee you it sold more in Europe than most of those UFCs did. Fuckface
@BazookaIke So go ahead and give me some boxing PPVs, oh wait, you said Boxings last few, over how long of a time period. I think what most people are saying is that Boxing promoters fucking suck at putting together the great fights of the past. Seriously, boxing just looks boring compared to a UFC fight, because on a subconcious level, MMA is REAL fighting(combining several distances)vs.Boxing which is a sanitized version of a street fight that won't work.MMA>boxing, esp post 5-7 yrs from now
@TheAngeltoDemon Yes....boxing's last few, which was what the UFC's was as well. WTF do you expect? Should I go back farther? All of Floyd's last 4 PPVs have topped 1.1 million. Pacquiao's have all been over 1 million except for the Clottey fight, which was 850k. Ricky Hatton routinely sold 800k or more in the UK. Is that enough for you?
The problem with you assclown MMA fanboys is you have no numbers to back up your unsubstantiated claims. 5-7 years from now? With ur crystal ball? Lol
@BazookaIke Nah, no crystal ball, just the fact that the UFC are always trying to put on MULTIPLE great fights. What's boxing gonna do when Floyd and Pacman are gone. I used to love boxing, but will all the bullshit going on, I can't like it. I have no reference to your ppv fights, but these guys fight only one in a blue moon anyway. UFC is consistent with it's shows. Boxing's death to me, is all to apparent when discussing boxing vs UFC, for my group,we hate boxing,too much BS.
@BazookaIke i just don't feel like arguing....you boxing ASSCLOWNS will see the death of your sport because more athletes are choosing MMA. I mean come on, if you need to defend yourself in a real fight, your not gonna wanna be a boxer then, MMA all the way. Then he gets mauled in mma, and he willl continue to get malled. Remember, kicks are way more powerful than punches. Watch your boxing"The sweet science" vs MMA "the I can really kick your ass science"
@TheAngeltoDemon You don't feel like arguing yet you keep making stupid comments. Boxing isn't losing athletes to MMA. If they were, I'd see a lot of great displays of boxing skills in MMA. I'm not seeing that. I see some VERY sloppy boxing in MMA. Why the fuck do you think MMA fighters are now employing boxing trainers?
And who cares about how real fights are? Maybe that argument makes sense to dumb rednecks who like to spoon with other men. Lots of purists out there who prefer boxing.
Standing 8 counts are more dangerous then most things that happen in an mma fight, and there has never been a seriouse injury, I love boxing but Dana white is right its a dying sport!
@Gyro911 Whats a joke is Mayweather, boxings posterboy, refusing to fight Pacquio. These are the only two guys boxing has and one (Mayweather) sold out and only wants easy fights and coast into retirement undefeated. Disgraceful.
Brock Lesnar is a beast and already made a name for himself. He's not some up-and-comer moving up the ranks. If Brock was 35-0 fighting soup cans, like how most boxers inflate their record, youre telling me he'd be more worthy?
Okay, however Dana said the same thing about Brock at one time and gave him all the top fights and title shots when he had no MMA background. Dana double talks and says alot of BS however he did make a few points in this interview. Kimbo draws money then he will get a title shot, that is how Dana works. Dana swings where the money is period.
race has fuck all to do with it. Exciting fighters and interest is what matters. Boxing is my first love and always will be, but i also love MMA, race got fuck all to do with it. Klitschko, Chagaev, Povetkin, Ruiz, Pavlik even, all white. all in boxing, all contenders and champs. cmon, Boxing's best moments were with black champs, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles all the way to Leonard to Lewis and there have been great white fighters Tunney Dempsey Schmeling. CMON MAN GET UR KNOWLEDGE UP
@9toStryfe Explain the Klitchko's kicking every black american boxers ass today? If they werent around you'd be seeing Hasim Rahman getting promoted as the next great champ on par with Holyfield
if boxing wants 2 stay big it needs more white boxers.thats y its dying cuz they r not promoting white guys.if there were a bunch of white guys in boxing like mma then it would still be on top.
@uaskdej Actually, that's a pretty ignorant statement. Pacquiao vs. Mayweather is the only fight that CASUAL boxing fans want to see. Those of us who follow the sport are interested in many different match ups. Clearly you are a casual fan at best.
I follow MMA as well. I'd hardly describe my wishlist of bouts I'd like to see in that sport as "endless". There's not more great matchups there than in boxing.
@BazookaIke its not ignorant. its shallow but wtf dont insult me by saying ignorant. look obviously we have diffrent views, your probably a "casual" mma fan while i religously watch it. but my point is that mma has waaaay more bouts that people would rather see. like joe rogan said boxing is eventually gonna get swallowed up by mma.
@uaskdej You wouldn't be insulted if you knew what ignorant meant. You're uninformed as to the landscape of boxing, i.e. you are ignorant.
As for MMA's matchups........for you personally, you have a larger wishlist in that sport than you do in boxing. That makes sense, since you're a big MMA fan. That doesn't make your statement about boxing true. Its just your opinion of what you'd like to see.
@uaskdej You wouldn't be insulted if you knew what ignorant meant. You're uninformed as to the landscape of boxing, i.e. you are ignorant.
As for MMA's matchups........for you personally, you have a larger wishlist in that sport than you do in boxing. That makes sense, since you're a big MMA fan. That doesn't make your statement about boxing true. Its just your opinion of what you'd like to see.
@uaskdej I am a big Green Bay Packers fan and really am only interested in seeing them play this weekend. That doesn't mean the GB vs. Atlanta game is the only game anyone wants to see. If I applied your logic, it would be though. See what I'm saying?
@BazookaIke The "casual fans" are the ones that make the blockbuster ppvs so huge. UFC was a bloodsport when it first started and was very popular to a small group of people. Now they sell a product that millions of people want and are huge because of it.
Its nice that youre a diehard fan but to be successful you need to please the "casual fan" and also advertisers... For better or for worse.
Mayweather/Pacquiao would be the fight of the year, yes or no? Instead we get Mosley/Pacquiao
@stewiedog01 Exactly man. UFC has been around for what 10 years, boxings been around for over a century. The UFC alone is crushing boxing consitentley. And you get these old guys saying they don't like it because they grew up on boxing. My dad is one of them. But its dead. It was dead before the UFC even came around. Mike Tyson is a huge MMA fan, same with Sugar ray Leonard and Roy jones. If mma was what it is now then all these guys would have went to mma not boxing. It's more exciting
@BazookaIke Denile is a hard thing to get over. Actually its the first step. You'll get over it :) - BTW its Jim Romes video you illegally took it so stfu
HAHA! Dana white is trying to act all high and mighty with his boy friend Jim Rome.. yet, not one question about why the FUCK Brock is getting a title fight after only 1-1 in the UFC? How many people did Rashad fight before he got that title shot? Dana White makes me ILL thinks he's doing the right thing, ends up being the shadiest mother fucker in the business.. Kimbo went 1-1 in the UFC and got Cut. HAHA! brock 1-1 and gets a title shot.. yeah sure whatever mr fairness.. go fuck urself
I hate when people say mma is barbaric, its the rawist form of physical competition, two men facing off, it used to be barbaric but now they stop the fight the second you can't defend yourself, people say boxing is better but not only is mma 50% boxing anyway, its without the giant padded gloves
"we buy into kimbo slice"? Aren't you supposed to be a reporter and know who is good and who is not?
I wish they would ask people who actually know something about the sport on as commentators rather than a boxing guy who knows more than 10 names and has seen more than 2 fights.
The point is that UFC routinely sell out quickly and annually generate more revenue than boxing. I would say that is an excellent gauge of public interest. Who cares about a single event earning more.
I couldn't disagree more with these two guys at the end. Boxing doesn't even come close to the year round PPV buys that MMA does. Dana White is right about Boxing dying a horrible death.
1) boxing PPVs are many times not even the best fights in the sport each year, so the numbers are distorted. The UFC's best matchups are always on PPV.
2) Boxing ain't dying. Its lost steam in the USA but globally its healthier than ever.
@BazookaIke UFC makes big money every week one way or another. Boxing has a couple good fights a year. Boxing isnt dead but its been replaced by the UFC.
Hummm guess you are not considering Spike TV ratings when the UFC is on?
A cable station! Talk about distorted numbers.
If boxing could sell those fights on PPV they would but they can't. I love boxing but promoters killed it. To much greed and no vision for the future.
@Pick1980a Sorry....but if the convo stretches out over a couple days then I'm not keeping track of the topic and I can't be bothered to stick around and wait for replies.
Maybe you meant to reply to someone else but your reply was directed at me.
@clipsryan No insecurities. I just don't want to deal with MMA fanboys who tell lies and have no knowledge or facts to back up their claims. Stop being a Dana White mouthpiece. And after all this time of mine that you have wasted......you've yet to provide any evidence to back up your claims. Therefore, you've been proven to be a stupid idiot.....and you're done here. Bye bitch.
@clipsryan Hundreds of other great fights? LOL....so now you're exaggerating by about 80? Your reasons for Fedor not fighting in the UFC are the same ones boxing has for some of its best matchups not happening. Point is.....UFC has the same problems.
One again I ask yo for proof that boxing is dying. Make your next post a good one, because if your stupid ass comes back with more ignorance, you're getting blocked.
@clipsryan Has MMA delivered us Fedor vs. Lesnar or Couture? Has MMA delivered us GSP vs. Anderson Silva? No!! Doesn't mean that sport is dying.
Now once again.......STFU if you can't provide hard evidence. Without some proof, you're just a Dana White drone who isn't capable of forming an original thought.
I'll give you a bit of help since you haven't a clue where to start in your search for proof. Try showing some stats that show boxing is in trouble globally. Good luck. LOL
@clipsryan Where's your proof? You make claims but have nothing to back them up. Boxing is dying? Based on what evidence? Stop being a fuckin' drone. Use your brain for its purpose........do some research, report your conclusions. I'm tired of people making this hollow claim just because they're UFC fanboys.
@clipsryan When you start out by saying boxing is dead or near dead, it shows immediately that you have no freakin' clue. Stop being a Dana White mouthpiece. Do some research and you'll find out that you're making an ass of yourself.
I just wish the fighters were paid more money. Some of these guys train for 3 straight months to take home 3-4K after expenses. Dana should strongly consider taking better care of these guys. Not just the top fighters...
guess what, people who KNOW boxing and people who PROMOTE boxing won't buy into Mayweather b/c he's a coward. Pacquiao is a true champ and they should fight. MMA is a magnificent sport and both have their place. But these guys saying that boxing is everything and MMA is nothing is just foolish.
MMA attracts "fighters" and not all martial artists. Unfortunately. So Dana needs to figure out how to deal with this. How are you going to maintain a steady cashflow? In the long run? Not all people, will want to keep doing brazilian jiu jitsu, and Muay Thai can be learned relatively quickly. MMA is the bandwagon so to speak. So good luck, I don't think it will eliminate boxing......probably wrestling will suffer. Look at the mma schools out there and the bjj dropout rate.
@mattitudev1hardy your right thats why paquio and mayweather wont fight because when they do boxing is done. its just history from that point on.and if it ever happens i still wont watch it, boxing is boring (to me) now.jab jab counter side step duck counter jab booorrring.at the same time there going brain dead.to many punches to the head in one fight. brain dead just listen to an old fighter,enough said "boxing is dead" mma took over already.except it or not TRUTH!!
@spotmeadub Listen.....I love both sports but I don't post videos here so ignorant people like yourself can respond. You clearly know shit about boxing so don't offer up baseless opinions. And the word you're looking for is accept, not except.
@spotmeadub lol exactly! not even that all those beautifull shoulder roles and sways and shit dont work ina real fight and i think boxing is just dead thats my opinion
@mattitudev1hardy ...interesting....you believe boxing is dead (primarily in the USA I assume), even though it has major deals wih HBO, Fox Sports and Showtime, has a weekly series on ESPN and has set some PPV records in recent years. All for a sport that is dead. Wow.....you're really smart.
@mattitudev1hardy its one aspect of fighting kid...shoulder rolls and sways and nice lil jabs barely if not neva work ina fight i doubt u been ina enough to know that oh and btw boxing is like hey ima fight u! ok just use our hands...mma is all aspects of fighting and has $44.95 every ppv and has deals on spike and versus so learn that mma/ufc is better than faggot boxing in which ONLY HAS MAYWEATHER AND PACMAN thats it those r ya only two money makers now it aint like the 1970s,80s and part 90s
@mattitudev1hardy Who cares if MMA has more aspects? This isn't a comparison of which is more multidimensional. Idiots like you say that boxing is dying. It isn't. You're just a puppet of Dana White's. He pulls your strings and you say whatever he wants you to. Try thinking for yourself. Proof is in the pudding....boxing ain't dead and ain't dying.
@BazookaIke There r other good posible matchups in boxing but pacman vs floyd is by far the biggest & most important 2 the sport..The UFC ALWAYS gives its fans the fights they want..Boxing doesnt..Boxing, without question, isnt nearly as popular as it was in the 90s, 80s,70s ect.. So that means it is dying..Boxing is contaminated with politics,& pampered fighters..Thank God 4 MMA..I still follow boxing & other than floyd vs pacman,Ill pay 2 watch UFC over ANY boxing match
@nujrz4lyfe Well....I wouldn't say the UFC always delivers but it certainly does give us the matchups we want at a much higher percentage than boxing. Let's not forget that we never got to see Fedor in the UFC vs. Couture, Lesnar, etc. Obviously if Fedor was a UFC fighter, things would have been different. That's the good thing about the UFC.....they control most of the relevant talent in that sport. Boxing has too many promoters around the globe who are all self serving.
@BazookaIke Absolutely..Also, boxing has WAY too many belts& that has watered the sport down..Its like adding 20 more teams 2 the NBA..The bottom line is,MMA has grown so fast & has matured so much in just 17yrs, that i cant seee it NOT surpassing boxing on every level in our lifetime..
@mattitudev1hardy ima puppet? ya a puppet of mayweather...or pacman thats the only fight ppl wanna see after paq and mayweather are gone no ones gonna be goin boxing they goina mma and there goes ya precious sport im out!
@mattitudev1hardy That's the only boxing match that WWE / MMA fans like yourself want to see. There's a lot more great matchups in the sport but you don't follow it so you shouldn't bother commenting on shit you know nothing about. Stick to event chasing....because that's what you do.......you follow big events. You don't follow the entire sport, yet you try to act as if you know all about it. Assclown.
@BazookaIke No, it is very obvious that both globally and nationally MMA is larger. More people know what boxing is worldwide, but do you even know the #1 heavyweight boxer right now? ...No, huh? How about the UFC heavyweight champion? Oh, Brock Lesnar, you got that one quick!
@mike2finch wow, you overwhelmed me with facts. how do I ever respond to that? BTW....that was sarcasm. Please stop posting here unless you have something remotely intelligent to add.
@Designing5 that's not true at all. Fighters in MMA need to learn every aspect of fighting to be top contender or champion and there not lazy in training in the different fighting disciplines. Look at Chuck Liddell he is 5th degree black belt in kenpo and black belt in karate amd a great wrestler, Anderson silver black belt in bjj and other disciplines. These fighter are great athletes.
@Designing5 Neither will push the other aside. If you like combat sports, you like both. MMA employs a lot of boxing. I'm sure there's MMA guys who don't like boxing. I know there's boxing guys who don't care for the wrestling aspect of MMA. People who keep trying to say MMA is taking over and that its killing boxing are just Dana White parrots. Think for yourself......use your brain and analyze all the info at your disposal. Stop being so easily influenced.
@BazookaIke holy crap u just said what i was gonna say i dont hate mma if i had the time i would watch it like i use to i dont follow it no more cuz boxing is my fav sport and there are still a lot more kids that are learning boxing cuz of their dads and they discover the sport when they learn it and for does of u that say boxing is dead u guys are dana white parrots cough joe rogan cough but lets enjoy both sports ok
@keithownseveryone09 joe aint a puppet neither am i where do u get that now mike goldberg hes a puppet but floyd mayweather now hes a puppet and boxing got puppets puppet in my eyes=fan so plz stop thx
@Designing5 So what if Oscar had an average record late in his career and retired after losing to Pac? What's your point? He was still a PPV star but Oscar wasn't really a good fighter anymore. You're seeing the same thing with MMA fighters like Ortiz, Couture and Liddell. All have fought for too long. MMA's growth WILL NOT affect boxing. Don't you get it?!!! You don't have to choose one sport or the other. People watch both. Stop trying to pit the two sports against each other!!
boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
Wow, i hate how this boxing guy is just saying, oh boxing has big fights, and just mentions de la hoya the whole time...Boxing has one big fight a year, and the Mayweather Pacquio fight will be the last big boxing event..
@questionvideo Boxing has many big fights each year. Its no different than MMA. MMA's only big "event" fights surround Lesnar. All others are much smaller in PPV numbers. Only ignorant WWE fans masquerading as MMA fans try to claim boxing has nothing going for it.
@BazookaIke What? Either way UFC sells the most PPV's...the people who are famous in boxing now, will be the ONLY famous boxers...there wont be any new huge icons of boxing...
@questionvideo Blah Blah Blah....you WWE fans all say the same thing. You said there would be nothing after Oscar vs. Floyd. Now you're saying there will be nothing after Floyd vs. Pac. It was said after the decline of guys like Holyfield and Tyson. Where's your capacity to learn? To say boxing won't have any more huge stars in the future is fuckin' stupid. Do you have a crystal ball?
@BazookaIke Im a WWE fan? One big fighter from WWE makes it big in the UFC and you generalize and assume we are all WWE fans...Brock was also a division once national champion wrestler...which doesnt have anything to do with WWE. Okay, i just want to know who in the last five years has made a huge name for himself in boxing?
@questionvideo I equate many UFC fans to WWE fans. IQ levels are about the same.......specifically when they try to talk about boxing. You clearly don't know anything about that sport.
@BazookaIke Dude, you're just like Lou...I love boxing, i just know its dying, im moving on and so are other people. But I do know when someone like James Toney can win a heavyweight championship..its not really a bumping sport.
1. Toney wasn't the heavyweight champ. There's a ton of trinkets out there and he won one of them, but was never the recognized champ. He was also stripped shortly thereafter for a positive test for PEDs.
@BazookaIke I'm not trying to say that boxing is dying or anything like that but to say that the only big events surround Lesnar is truly ignorant. You claim that everyone on here bashing boxing has no clue about the sport, which is probably right, but if your going to make claims like those are the only big events you're insane. Guys like Anderson Silva, GSP, BJ Penn, etc all the big names draw just as much. Lesnar brings a different crowd thats all. Boxing has just as many big fights? Lmao....
@BobReefer Actually, you're the one being ignorant and this is why. When people say boxing is dying, they say that the only big events in boxing are the ones which sell over 1 million PPVs. Well....how many of those UFC fighters you mentioned can sell 1 million or more? Only Lesnar seems to be able to do so.......so if we judge a "big event" by those standards, the UFC has only one big name. Understand what I'm saying? I'm just throwing ignorance back in their faces.
@BobReefer And to add to what I just posted.....I don't believe that measuring a sport's impending death is based on how many fights can sell 1 million PPVs. IMO the biggest events like that are typically not the best fights in terms of action. Its all about crossover appeal. Floyd Mayweather marketed himself correctly so now he is able to be a huge gate attraction. Is he the most exciting fighter out there? NO!! Not even close. Neither is GSP in MMA........
@BobReefer In summary, when some idiot MMA fan says that boxing is dying because it only has one or two megastars that attract a large number of celebs and tv attention.........I say stfu because they don't know what they're talking about. Neither boxing nor MMA is entirely about the events that catch the attention of the casual fans. Both have tons of great fights that aren't highly marketable to the casual fans. Problem is, the ignorant MMA fan recognizes this for MMA but not for boxing
BOXING AND MMA ARE TWO GREAT COMBAT SPORTS...sad to say boxing is in its dark ages....when Pacquaio,Mayweather retires boxing will sink...these two are the two main reasons why people still watch boxing...
@marxcryz No, you're wrong. This is the uninformed take that too many people try to tell others about boxing. It simply isn't true. Using this logic, MMA would be in a lot of trouble as well, since we saw the end of an era last night with Fedor getting beat.
@BazookaIke Not true at all. Fedor isn't looked up upon by the entire MMA community and there are a great many people that don't value him because of the quality of fighters he has fought in his last ten fights. MMA has so many big names that it doesn't need to depend on a less than a handful of fighters like boxing does.
@BazookaIke If you go on Sherdog you'll see all the *insert here* would beat Fedor threads and all the Fedor only fights can threads. Even on youtube has a bunch of videos to that effect.
@BodybuildingTom Yes of course people have been predicting it lately. He hasn't looked great in his last couple fights, he's getting older and then you look at how small he is in comparison to the younger generation of heavyweights. Its tough enough to give up so much height and weight to your opponent, but then factor in the age disparity and of course Fedor is going to start getting tested more than ever. I just find it funny that people now are trying to downgrade his accomplishments.
@BazookaIke You realize Fedors last fight compared to Lesnars last fight didn't sell anything. Fedor losing means strikeforce is losing business. Ufc fans usually dont give a shit about fedor, I personally was bummed out because he lost. Mma is in it's prime man, it's prime. Lol
@Vaultzero Yes I realize this. You know what else I realize? That "ufc fans" are among the most ignorant and divisive people I have ever encountered. Why is that? Why does UFC fan not care about an MMA legend simply because he fights for another company? Why does UFC fan think that there has to be a war between it and boxing? Why does UFC fan think that everyone has to choose....either boxing or MMA? Why can't UFC fan realize this is pointless? Stop drawing lines in the sand.
1. Ufc fans don't care about Fedor because he simply isn't in the Ufc.
2. Ufc fans think there have to be a war because of what idiot boxers say about the sport .
3. Idk why they think ppl have too choose. Lol
4. Ufc fans don't realize it's pointless because they don't care about it, we simply like to troll. Lol It's kinda like football teams lol everyone has their favorite and will fight in what they believe in. At least mma fans are loyal and defend what they believe, ya know. Lol
1. that's pretty shallow though. if you like MMA, you should enjoy all of it and not just one brand name.
2. UFC people say stupid shit about boxing too.
4. it helps to be informed on all points if you're going to defend something. this is like politics.....the "ufc fan" according to you is just blindly following the leader, accepting what he says as gospel.
@BazookaIke Lmao you just described like 75% of the ufc fan base. Me, I just love the sport but to a lot of people this is like religion. Not in the sense these people are mystical and holy, but that they are like living monuments that deserve respect. It's weird, people actually get in fights over this stuff, but I guess thats any sport these days. Haha Oh and most of the ufc guys I've seen in interviews weren't talking bad about boxing, just the boxers bashing ufc. They appreciate the sport.
I remember seeing this live a few years ago. The saddest thing was that the guy from the Orange County Register said that De La Hoya showed no signs of slowing down and that he wasn't going anywhere. Sucks that Oscar told Freddie Roach "I just don't have it anymore" a few seconds after losing the fight.
those dudes did a terrible job of defending boxing
njduquette 1 month ago
to boxing dummies who have no idea wat mma is how can u c omment on a sport vthat when u watch u have no idea whats happening thats like a blind man commenting on what its like to be deaf
MegaMma4life 2 months ago
Boxing will never die!!! But MMA is much more exciting & entertaining... there's too many weight classes in boxing - too many champions for each weight class (WBO, WBC, ect ect...) too much BS coming from promoters like Bob Arum who is protecting Pacquiao from Mayweather & purposely screwed up negotiations for a Pacquiao/Chavez Jr. fight. I honestly don't understand the whole MMA vs. Boxing thing... why not be a fan of both? They're both combat sports. MMA is better - but boxing won't die.
PhukAdvertisements 2 months ago
This guy is sooo thick
freespeechisataste 3 months ago
That dude keeps hanging onto one fighter.. dude let it go.
tkotomy 3 months ago
Now that ufc made that big deal with fox sports, they'll have HUGE opportunities in addition to a chance to show people in other continents how much better & superior they are to boxing (or any sport for that matter). & boxing isn't completely dead but we'll see about that. It WILL be completely dead soon. Just you watch. There won't be any new big name boxing fighters. I bet you. Just watch, all you boxing fans.
hotcocao55 5 months ago
@hotcocao55 Do you even realize how foolish this sounds? MMA won't kill boxing. People don't drop one sport for the other. People either like both sports or they prefer one and not the other. Its such a huge myth that the growth of one equates to the downfall of the other.
To say that a sport like boxing will just flat out die is fuckin' ridiculous. I'm beginning to think that the average MMA fan doesn't have a fully functioning brain, with all these foolish claims they make.
BazookaIke 5 months ago
@BazookaIke Yeah, i realized how foolish it sounded right after pressing the "reply" button. It was too late. I know boxing won't ever die. But i still think mma is superior to boxing when it comes to real fights.
hotcocao55 5 months ago
@hotcocao55 To each and their own. I prefer boxing but watch both. The only people I ever heard claim that they quit on boxing to watch MMA were people who only tuned in to the megafights in boxing. In other words, they were fans of big events, not of the sport itself.
No doubt that boxing is struggling in the USA though. Globally, it is stronger than ever, but in the USA the sport struggles a bit when we don't have a dominant American heavyweight champion.
BazookaIke 5 months ago
@BazookaIke But actually, people do drop 1 sport for another. How many boxing fans has ufc stolen from boxing & vice versa? & mma is killing boxing. They're raping them. I love how you try & nitpick these little differences in my logic as if you're some super smart logical person rofl. Yeah, boxing won't flat out die either. But they're getting killed by mma. Same difference. "Its such a huge myth that the growth of one equates to the downfall of the other." lmao get over yourself prick.
hotcocao55 5 months ago
@hotcocao55 Prick? LOL......settle down and stop with the exaggerations. That and the factless claims that average MMA guy makes in here are what I have little tolerance for.
BazookaIke 5 months ago
@BazookaIke Good lord your grammar sucks. I couldn't understand your last sentence. You mean you can't tolerate mma guy*s? Anyway, if you don't like my so-called "exaggerations" too bad, faggot. You're the one making an issue out of a non issue by nitpicking little differences in my logic to better your image as a more intelligent "keyboard" gladiator. Grow a penis.
hotcocao55 5 months ago
@hotcocao55 My last sentence makes good sense. You're too fucking stupid to comprehend, which tells me you are the average MMA fan.......a stupid god damn white trash honkey. Enough of you, fuckface!!
BazookaIke 5 months ago
UFC is more popular then boxing now,
wDoucheCanoe 6 months ago
@wDoucheCanoe And your data to back this up is what?
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke There is more followers, and more viewers at UFC PPVs the there are at Boxing PPV.
wDoucheCanoe 6 months ago
@wDoucheCanoe No, not really. You should back up your claims with facts. UFC PPVs actually have been down quite a bit lately. They have two big draws right now.......GSP and Lesnar. I'm betting that Velasquez vs. dos Santos will do pretty well also. I don't know if it will do as well as Lesnar and GSP though. Anyways....outside of those two big draws, UFC is not selling out arenas and putting up the big numbers that you say.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke Sorry i meant MMA in general. Not only UFC, but there is Strikeforce. Boxing is dead. Have you seen the Fan Base of the UFC vs Boxing? The fact is there are more UFC fans then Boxing, or atleast MMA fans. I can watch boxing on espn,SHOWTIME,HBO, without having to pay for it. You dont hear about boxing, anymore. All you hear about is UFC. Boxing use to be everything, but now UFC is stepping in. Sorry.
wDoucheCanoe 6 months ago
@wDoucheCanoe No need to say MMA. Strikeforce is almost dead. MMA is the UFC. They control it all, now that they have acquired Strikeforce.
Boxing is not dead. Its not as strong in North America as it used to be, but that doesn't mean its dead. Boxing is huge on other continents yet. Just because you don't know this doesn't make it untrue. Like I've said in here countless times........MMA fanboys just parrot the words of Dana White. They don't bring facts to back these false claims.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke UFC has PPVs once every month year round. Boxing has doesnt. You wonder why the PPVs arent as much as boxing, its because UFC has more.
wDoucheCanoe 6 months ago
@wDoucheCanoe More ignorant comments. You're only speaking about American PPVs. Clearly you have no clue about boxing internationally.
You're not really comparing similar cards either. Boxing doesn't stack a card for their PPV events like UFC does. They spread them out over several smaller cards that end up on HBO Boxing after Dark or on Showtime champinship boxing. Boxing and the UFC are just run differently. Now if we compare Pac or Floyd PPV numbers to UFC's best, the UFC loses.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke No they dont. Seriously just american PPVs? HELL NO! Brazilian,French,and American mostly dude. In a UFC PPV, there is the Main Card, which is the main fight, and few other fights that people are still interested in. UFC is more entertaining to watch, i think most would agree too. Although that is an opinion.
wDoucheCanoe 6 months ago
You cannot ,at the moment,compare the popularity of these 2 sports!MMA is well above boxing.Watch the magazines cover at your local store!Even the MMA "cage-girls" are popular as shit.And thats all over the world.GSP almost caused a riot in the Phillipines.Nah...MMA is getting bigger and bigger,and every week theres a MMA gym that open up in the MTL area(so it must be like this all over America).
On a boxing card,there is 1 or 2max,good fights.MMA cards are mostly packed(when every1 is healthy.
pkl1302 6 months ago
@pkl1302 I doubt you have any figures to back up your claim.
PPV numbers in the last several events suggest otherwise. Also.......you grossly exaggerate the excitement of MMA fights across the board. MMA has LOTS of stinkers. Many of their bouts are boring indeed, starting with virtually every bout of one of its top stars in GSP. He is a phenominal fighter but he is boring as shit for those of us who don't care much for wrestling.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke What "figures" do you want?I'm talking abt good fights on any given card!
And I understand your point of view,cuz you are not the only one who dont appreciate the "mixed" part of MMA.
You dont appreciate the technique behind GSP's work by ex.U r mosdef a brawler fan!Right?And its all right,its also part of MMA!There wasnt any wrestling involved in GSP- Koscheck fight,in the Shields fight either(TDD mostly).
And I dont think "I grossly exaggerate the excitement of MMA..."not at all!
pkl1302 6 months ago
@pkl1302 Wrong......I appreciate the "mixed" part of MMA. I just don't enjoy all aspects of it. Much props to those who excel at all aspects of the sport. Its just not exciting in all aspects. An honest voting in a poll would tell you all one needs to know........what do people enjoy more......someone getting KTFO by a punch or getting wrestled to a decision or submitted after being wrestled. Its simple......people love seeing the big KO. MMA dosn't always deliver that.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@pkl1302 As for figures I am asking for.......if you are going to suggest MMA is blowing boxing away, you should provide the PPV numbers or some other hard evidence to back up your claims. I've seen a lot of MMA fanboys make the same claims as you and not a single one of them could come up with one single number. They just talk out of their ass. I know for a fact based on numbers posted on MMA Live that the UFC PPV figures lately have been horrible, with the exception of the last GSP fight
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke I never talked abt PPV numbers,not once.All I said is you get more good fights on a MMA card than on a boxing card.I dont talk abt PPV and I dont care abt them.I'm just talking abt what I'm seeing around me(where I live and when I travel).On the net;its full of MMA site.The MMA stars get movie's part,they are on all kind of magazine(not just MMA,but Fitness,women magazines,etc...).Small org r growing faster than pot in BC!
So,like I said,I dont talk abt number,I talk abt what I see.
pkl1302 6 months ago
@pkl1302 OK......well if you don't want to talk numbers then we can only apply your statements to the area around you. For the record, I agree that MMA is probably bigger than boxing at the moment in North America. Globally it is not.
I also don't believe you know how many good fights actually occur in boxing. It seems pretty obvious that you don'tpay much attention to boxing other than a few of the larger bouts that are high profile.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
@BazookaIke LOL...not just the area around me,its the internet,the movies,magazines,new gym,etc...(you are avoiding all my points except the number;that you most likely know).And I'm on the road(sky) quite a while,I travel and its my feeling.
But you are right,as for boxing,I only follow the high profile cards and the one with my local fighters.
It was good talking with you dude and have a good one ;) I'm pretty sure both sport will do fine!
pkl1302 6 months ago
@pkl1302 Yes I'm a big fan of both. Boxing needs a big American heavyweight star to bust onto the scene. We love the heavyweights here. Look what they have done fur the division in the UFC. Huge ratings!
BazookaIke 6 months ago
yeah right bitches try and get MMA into High schools stuff like that good luck boxing is kicking back into gear know and all its going to take is another bigtime heavyweight and mma is dead and buried remeber when Dana white was saying his ufc event was going to crush floyd mayweathers ppv who won 1 million buys to 300k or whatever the biggest ass kicking in MMA history.
akahitman007 7 months ago
@akahitman007 it will never happen sure boxing could make a comeback but dana was right all the greedy cunts are killing it guys like mayweather who fucking ducks the only fight anyone wants to see and gets away with it. They dont have that pussy luxury in mma as they put on the fights everyone wants to see and the fighters cant duck
BlackLabelForLife 7 months ago
@BlackLabelForLife Thats cuz mayweather is retired so he doesnt have to fight, but thats the good thing about ufc if someone cant fight they will fill the slot with someone else.
duckmastterflex 6 months ago
@duckmastterflex well Floyd is not retired at the moment.
BazookaIke 6 months ago
Yeah, boxing is definitely dieing. After watching UFC for so many years, and boxing before that...It's like boxing represents soft porn, while UFC is full on XXX porn, really the best way i could put it.
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Hey that's an indictment on your limitations, not on boxing if that's as good as you can put it. I've seen the PPV numbers for the last several PPV events for the UFC. They are not good. The best ones are WAY behind the top PPV events in boxing. Clearly you have no fuckin' clue.
BazookaIke 7 months ago
@BazookaIke Well dickwad, why don't you post the numbers. Show me an analysis to prove your point. Your clearly not a UFC fan, so how can i reckon that you have a fucking clue? I used to enjoy boxing, when they would put on good fights, but come on, how the fuck do we not get to see pacqiou/mayweather. Face the facts, aside from random spikes from good fights, boxing is just plain boring and is not attracting new crops of great athletes.the ufc is popular because MMA is as real as it gets.
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Go watch the last episode of MMA Live on ESPN. They showed the PPV numbers from UFC 126 to present. Most of the numbers were from 200,000+ into the 300,000 range. The two largest PPVs were over 400,000 and 800,000. Boxing's last few major PPV events sold well over 1 million PPVs domestically. Haye vs. Klitschko was on regular HBO in the USA so I don't know their numbers but I'll guarantee you it sold more in Europe than most of those UFCs did. Fuckface
BazookaIke 7 months ago
@BazookaIke So go ahead and give me some boxing PPVs, oh wait, you said Boxings last few, over how long of a time period. I think what most people are saying is that Boxing promoters fucking suck at putting together the great fights of the past. Seriously, boxing just looks boring compared to a UFC fight, because on a subconcious level, MMA is REAL fighting(combining several distances)vs.Boxing which is a sanitized version of a street fight that won't work.MMA>boxing, esp post 5-7 yrs from now
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Yes....boxing's last few, which was what the UFC's was as well. WTF do you expect? Should I go back farther? All of Floyd's last 4 PPVs have topped 1.1 million. Pacquiao's have all been over 1 million except for the Clottey fight, which was 850k. Ricky Hatton routinely sold 800k or more in the UK. Is that enough for you?
The problem with you assclown MMA fanboys is you have no numbers to back up your unsubstantiated claims. 5-7 years from now? With ur crystal ball? Lol
BazookaIke 7 months ago
@BazookaIke Nah, no crystal ball, just the fact that the UFC are always trying to put on MULTIPLE great fights. What's boxing gonna do when Floyd and Pacman are gone. I used to love boxing, but will all the bullshit going on, I can't like it. I have no reference to your ppv fights, but these guys fight only one in a blue moon anyway. UFC is consistent with it's shows. Boxing's death to me, is all to apparent when discussing boxing vs UFC, for my group,we hate boxing,too much BS.
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@BazookaIke i just don't feel like arguing....you boxing ASSCLOWNS will see the death of your sport because more athletes are choosing MMA. I mean come on, if you need to defend yourself in a real fight, your not gonna wanna be a boxer then, MMA all the way. Then he gets mauled in mma, and he willl continue to get malled. Remember, kicks are way more powerful than punches. Watch your boxing"The sweet science" vs MMA "the I can really kick your ass science"
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon You don't feel like arguing yet you keep making stupid comments. Boxing isn't losing athletes to MMA. If they were, I'd see a lot of great displays of boxing skills in MMA. I'm not seeing that. I see some VERY sloppy boxing in MMA. Why the fuck do you think MMA fighters are now employing boxing trainers?
And who cares about how real fights are? Maybe that argument makes sense to dumb rednecks who like to spoon with other men. Lots of purists out there who prefer boxing.
BazookaIke 7 months ago
Standing 8 counts are more dangerous then most things that happen in an mma fight, and there has never been a seriouse injury, I love boxing but Dana white is right its a dying sport!
DJNeverSleeps 7 months ago
Well, the guy who said we won't think about Brock/Couture later on down the line was wrong, everyone still remembers that fight
XCaptainSupermanX 7 months ago
BLEH!
apsychoicon 7 months ago
like fuck WWE made Brock leasner the name he is today and dana white needs to stfu about boxing what and idot MMA sucks balls.
akahitman007 9 months ago
@akahitman007 i see your just another boxing fan that cant handle that MMA is at the top and boxing is just...............DEAD
imhungry4444 7 months ago
@imhungry4444 I see you're just another dumb fuck faggot who spews shit without knowing the facts. Good riddance bitch.
BazookaIke 7 months ago
is their a weight heavyier than heavyweight in ufc?
sjewitt22 10 months ago
Lesner beating couture after only 3 fights shows how much of a joke mMA and the little talent it involves to be good.
Gyro911 10 months ago
@Gyro911 Whats a joke is Mayweather, boxings posterboy, refusing to fight Pacquio. These are the only two guys boxing has and one (Mayweather) sold out and only wants easy fights and coast into retirement undefeated. Disgraceful.
Brock Lesnar is a beast and already made a name for himself. He's not some up-and-comer moving up the ranks. If Brock was 35-0 fighting soup cans, like how most boxers inflate their record, youre telling me he'd be more worthy?
rrrrramone 9 months ago
Okay, however Dana said the same thing about Brock at one time and gave him all the top fights and title shots when he had no MMA background. Dana double talks and says alot of BS however he did make a few points in this interview. Kimbo draws money then he will get a title shot, that is how Dana works. Dana swings where the money is period.
bamjungle 10 months ago
race has fuck all to do with it. Exciting fighters and interest is what matters. Boxing is my first love and always will be, but i also love MMA, race got fuck all to do with it. Klitschko, Chagaev, Povetkin, Ruiz, Pavlik even, all white. all in boxing, all contenders and champs. cmon, Boxing's best moments were with black champs, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles all the way to Leonard to Lewis and there have been great white fighters Tunney Dempsey Schmeling. CMON MAN GET UR KNOWLEDGE UP
9toStryfe 11 months ago
@9toStryfe Explain the Klitchko's kicking every black american boxers ass today? If they werent around you'd be seeing Hasim Rahman getting promoted as the next great champ on par with Holyfield
Gyro911 10 months ago
if boxing wants 2 stay big it needs more white boxers.thats y its dying cuz they r not promoting white guys.if there were a bunch of white guys in boxing like mma then it would still be on top.
LilBlitz116 1 year ago
its sad the only fight boxing fans wanna see is only one. while ufc the list is endless!!!
uaskdej 1 year ago 17
@uaskdej Actually, that's a pretty ignorant statement. Pacquiao vs. Mayweather is the only fight that CASUAL boxing fans want to see. Those of us who follow the sport are interested in many different match ups. Clearly you are a casual fan at best.
I follow MMA as well. I'd hardly describe my wishlist of bouts I'd like to see in that sport as "endless". There's not more great matchups there than in boxing.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke its not ignorant. its shallow but wtf dont insult me by saying ignorant. look obviously we have diffrent views, your probably a "casual" mma fan while i religously watch it. but my point is that mma has waaaay more bouts that people would rather see. like joe rogan said boxing is eventually gonna get swallowed up by mma.
uaskdej 1 year ago
@uaskdej You wouldn't be insulted if you knew what ignorant meant. You're uninformed as to the landscape of boxing, i.e. you are ignorant.
As for MMA's matchups........for you personally, you have a larger wishlist in that sport than you do in boxing. That makes sense, since you're a big MMA fan. That doesn't make your statement about boxing true. Its just your opinion of what you'd like to see.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@uaskdej You wouldn't be insulted if you knew what ignorant meant. You're uninformed as to the landscape of boxing, i.e. you are ignorant.
As for MMA's matchups........for you personally, you have a larger wishlist in that sport than you do in boxing. That makes sense, since you're a big MMA fan. That doesn't make your statement about boxing true. Its just your opinion of what you'd like to see.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@uaskdej I am a big Green Bay Packers fan and really am only interested in seeing them play this weekend. That doesn't mean the GB vs. Atlanta game is the only game anyone wants to see. If I applied your logic, it would be though. See what I'm saying?
BazookaIke 1 year ago
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Infidel87 11 months ago
@BazookaIke The "casual fans" are the ones that make the blockbuster ppvs so huge. UFC was a bloodsport when it first started and was very popular to a small group of people. Now they sell a product that millions of people want and are huge because of it.
Its nice that youre a diehard fan but to be successful you need to please the "casual fan" and also advertisers... For better or for worse.
Mayweather/Pacquiao would be the fight of the year, yes or no? Instead we get Mosley/Pacquiao
rrrrramone 9 months ago
boxing will rise up when they actually put a fight that the fans want to see!!
mayweather vs pacquaio
stingo101 1 year ago
@stingo101 then what?
madness259 1 year ago
With its rapid growth, in 20 years UFC fighters will be making the big payrolls that boxers make today...then what will be boxings excuse?
stewiedog01 1 year ago 5
@stewiedog01 Exactly man. UFC has been around for what 10 years, boxings been around for over a century. The UFC alone is crushing boxing consitentley. And you get these old guys saying they don't like it because they grew up on boxing. My dad is one of them. But its dead. It was dead before the UFC even came around. Mike Tyson is a huge MMA fan, same with Sugar ray Leonard and Roy jones. If mma was what it is now then all these guys would have went to mma not boxing. It's more exciting
wade2thehamilton 1 year ago
@wade2thehamilton Boxing is not dead. Stop posting idiocy on my videos.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Denile is a hard thing to get over. Actually its the first step. You'll get over it :) - BTW its Jim Romes video you illegally took it so stfu
wade2thehamilton 1 year ago
@wade2thehamilton I warned you, dickface. Now you're blocked.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@stewiedog01 in 20 years all the UFC Fighters will be collecting SSI Checks. :)
dationnation 7 months ago
HAHA! Dana white is trying to act all high and mighty with his boy friend Jim Rome.. yet, not one question about why the FUCK Brock is getting a title fight after only 1-1 in the UFC? How many people did Rashad fight before he got that title shot? Dana White makes me ILL thinks he's doing the right thing, ends up being the shadiest mother fucker in the business.. Kimbo went 1-1 in the UFC and got Cut. HAHA! brock 1-1 and gets a title shot.. yeah sure whatever mr fairness.. go fuck urself
dationnation 7 months ago
Fuck the two queers at the end. Benders.
LozbassGod 1 year ago
i hate espn running sports.
LBB420 1 year ago
I hate when people say mma is barbaric, its the rawist form of physical competition, two men facing off, it used to be barbaric but now they stop the fight the second you can't defend yourself, people say boxing is better but not only is mma 50% boxing anyway, its without the giant padded gloves
optimisticcosmic 1 year ago
"we buy into kimbo slice"? Aren't you supposed to be a reporter and know who is good and who is not?
I wish they would ask people who actually know something about the sport on as commentators rather than a boxing guy who knows more than 10 names and has seen more than 2 fights.
The point is that UFC routinely sell out quickly and annually generate more revenue than boxing. I would say that is an excellent gauge of public interest. Who cares about a single event earning more.
Pick1980a 1 year ago
I couldn't disagree more with these two guys at the end. Boxing doesn't even come close to the year round PPV buys that MMA does. Dana White is right about Boxing dying a horrible death.
puffykilled2pac 1 year ago
@puffykilled2pac Two things:
1) boxing PPVs are many times not even the best fights in the sport each year, so the numbers are distorted. The UFC's best matchups are always on PPV.
2) Boxing ain't dying. Its lost steam in the USA but globally its healthier than ever.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke denial? they are delaying Mayweather/Pacman because they know when that's over.. boxing is over... heavyweight boxing is a joke too...
Devon187 1 year ago
@Devon187 That's what's going on, huh? Haha....that's one of the dumber thoughts I've heard on the issue.
Boxing ain't dying. Try gaining some perspective on the sport before spewing stupidity.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke indeed in europe normal boxing is getting bigger and bigger
tristan2 1 year ago
@BazookaIke UFC makes big money every week one way or another. Boxing has a couple good fights a year. Boxing isnt dead but its been replaced by the UFC.
ragincaucasian319 1 year ago
@ragincaucasian319 \
Yeah I hear this stuff all the time, yet you guys just don't seem to have much proof of it.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke
Hummm guess you are not considering Spike TV ratings when the UFC is on?
A cable station! Talk about distorted numbers.
If boxing could sell those fights on PPV they would but they can't. I love boxing but promoters killed it. To much greed and no vision for the future.
Pick1980a 1 year ago
@Pick1980a The fuck if I know what you're talking about. Why reply to posts weeks, if not months after I made them?
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke
Well considering it is the primary comment on the page I am not sure your comment makes any sense.
At any rate I was responding to puffykilled2pac and not you. Not sure why you came up
Pick1980a 1 year ago
@Pick1980a Sorry....but if the convo stretches out over a couple days then I'm not keeping track of the topic and I can't be bothered to stick around and wait for replies.
Maybe you meant to reply to someone else but your reply was directed at me.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke
Yes well I think that is evident
Pick1980a 1 year ago
lol at the beginning Rome is about to say Bret Hart name
darule514 1 year ago
Lets get one thing straight. Fedor LOST to a guy that was cut from the UFC for LOSING. And he finished Fedor, Fedor quit.
Fedor is AT BEST a .500 heavyweight who's a past-his-prime hype train that's derailed from now on.
mcs4sac 1 year ago
I've never liked Jim Rome, but respect the fact that he covered mma BEFORE the rest of the pussies of espn jumped on the bandwagon.
stonebridge999 1 year ago
Pintoace.... FYI... Tim Sylvia is a big guy which = monster ... Don't look into it that much.... He's jus a shitty monster
dangerousdan43 1 year ago
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sammyfarhaz 1 year ago
lol its funny how here Dana White is saying that Tim Sylvia is a MONSTER
but as soon as Fedor beats Sylvia, all of a sudden hes a worthless guy that everyone knocks out.
Cmon dana stop with ur BS hypocracy
ThePintoAce 1 year ago
@clipsryan No insecurities. I just don't want to deal with MMA fanboys who tell lies and have no knowledge or facts to back up their claims. Stop being a Dana White mouthpiece. And after all this time of mine that you have wasted......you've yet to provide any evidence to back up your claims. Therefore, you've been proven to be a stupid idiot.....and you're done here. Bye bitch.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@clipsryan Hundreds of other great fights? LOL....so now you're exaggerating by about 80? Your reasons for Fedor not fighting in the UFC are the same ones boxing has for some of its best matchups not happening. Point is.....UFC has the same problems.
One again I ask yo for proof that boxing is dying. Make your next post a good one, because if your stupid ass comes back with more ignorance, you're getting blocked.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@clipsryan Has MMA delivered us Fedor vs. Lesnar or Couture? Has MMA delivered us GSP vs. Anderson Silva? No!! Doesn't mean that sport is dying.
Now once again.......STFU if you can't provide hard evidence. Without some proof, you're just a Dana White drone who isn't capable of forming an original thought.
I'll give you a bit of help since you haven't a clue where to start in your search for proof. Try showing some stats that show boxing is in trouble globally. Good luck. LOL
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@clipsryan Where's your proof? You make claims but have nothing to back them up. Boxing is dying? Based on what evidence? Stop being a fuckin' drone. Use your brain for its purpose........do some research, report your conclusions. I'm tired of people making this hollow claim just because they're UFC fanboys.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@clipsryan When you start out by saying boxing is dead or near dead, it shows immediately that you have no freakin' clue. Stop being a Dana White mouthpiece. Do some research and you'll find out that you're making an ass of yourself.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
I just wish the fighters were paid more money. Some of these guys train for 3 straight months to take home 3-4K after expenses. Dana should strongly consider taking better care of these guys. Not just the top fighters...
hankhabeeb19 1 year ago
Did he just take a swipe at Sylvia?!
shoeshimself 1 year ago
I wish the media would put people on who know something about MMA and not old reporters longing for the days of Ali and Tyson.
If I was doing a report on figure skating I wouldn't call a hockey player because both their sports are similar.
Sigh
Pick1980a 1 year ago
guess what, people who KNOW boxing and people who PROMOTE boxing won't buy into Mayweather b/c he's a coward. Pacquiao is a true champ and they should fight. MMA is a magnificent sport and both have their place. But these guys saying that boxing is everything and MMA is nothing is just foolish.
MSNking14 1 year ago
I just love Jim Rome, his such a kind and good host.
grimmjowi 1 year ago
MMA attracts "fighters" and not all martial artists. Unfortunately. So Dana needs to figure out how to deal with this. How are you going to maintain a steady cashflow? In the long run? Not all people, will want to keep doing brazilian jiu jitsu, and Muay Thai can be learned relatively quickly. MMA is the bandwagon so to speak. So good luck, I don't think it will eliminate boxing......probably wrestling will suffer. Look at the mma schools out there and the bjj dropout rate.
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy your right thats why paquio and mayweather wont fight because when they do boxing is done. its just history from that point on.and if it ever happens i still wont watch it, boxing is boring (to me) now.jab jab counter side step duck counter jab booorrring.at the same time there going brain dead.to many punches to the head in one fight. brain dead just listen to an old fighter,enough said "boxing is dead" mma took over already.except it or not TRUTH!!
spotmeadub 1 year ago
@spotmeadub Listen.....I love both sports but I don't post videos here so ignorant people like yourself can respond. You clearly know shit about boxing so don't offer up baseless opinions. And the word you're looking for is accept, not except.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@spotmeadub lol exactly! not even that all those beautifull shoulder roles and sways and shit dont work ina real fight and i think boxing is just dead thats my opinion
mattitudev1hardy 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy ...interesting....you believe boxing is dead (primarily in the USA I assume), even though it has major deals wih HBO, Fox Sports and Showtime, has a weekly series on ESPN and has set some PPV records in recent years. All for a sport that is dead. Wow.....you're really smart.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy its one aspect of fighting kid...shoulder rolls and sways and nice lil jabs barely if not neva work ina fight i doubt u been ina enough to know that oh and btw boxing is like hey ima fight u! ok just use our hands...mma is all aspects of fighting and has $44.95 every ppv and has deals on spike and versus so learn that mma/ufc is better than faggot boxing in which ONLY HAS MAYWEATHER AND PACMAN thats it those r ya only two money makers now it aint like the 1970s,80s and part 90s
mattitudev1hardy 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy Who cares if MMA has more aspects? This isn't a comparison of which is more multidimensional. Idiots like you say that boxing is dying. It isn't. You're just a puppet of Dana White's. He pulls your strings and you say whatever he wants you to. Try thinking for yourself. Proof is in the pudding....boxing ain't dead and ain't dying.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke There r other good posible matchups in boxing but pacman vs floyd is by far the biggest & most important 2 the sport..The UFC ALWAYS gives its fans the fights they want..Boxing doesnt..Boxing, without question, isnt nearly as popular as it was in the 90s, 80s,70s ect.. So that means it is dying..Boxing is contaminated with politics,& pampered fighters..Thank God 4 MMA..I still follow boxing & other than floyd vs pacman,Ill pay 2 watch UFC over ANY boxing match
nujrz4lyfe 1 year ago
@nujrz4lyfe Well....I wouldn't say the UFC always delivers but it certainly does give us the matchups we want at a much higher percentage than boxing. Let's not forget that we never got to see Fedor in the UFC vs. Couture, Lesnar, etc. Obviously if Fedor was a UFC fighter, things would have been different. That's the good thing about the UFC.....they control most of the relevant talent in that sport. Boxing has too many promoters around the globe who are all self serving.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Absolutely..Also, boxing has WAY too many belts& that has watered the sport down..Its like adding 20 more teams 2 the NBA..The bottom line is,MMA has grown so fast & has matured so much in just 17yrs, that i cant seee it NOT surpassing boxing on every level in our lifetime..
nujrz4lyfe 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy ima puppet? ya a puppet of mayweather...or pacman thats the only fight ppl wanna see after paq and mayweather are gone no ones gonna be goin boxing they goina mma and there goes ya precious sport im out!
mattitudev1hardy 1 year ago
@mattitudev1hardy That's the only boxing match that WWE / MMA fans like yourself want to see. There's a lot more great matchups in the sport but you don't follow it so you shouldn't bother commenting on shit you know nothing about. Stick to event chasing....because that's what you do.......you follow big events. You don't follow the entire sport, yet you try to act as if you know all about it. Assclown.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@Designing5 Haha....well I'm not trying to "win" a debate. Just speaking the truth.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@Designing5 Its debateable whether MMA or boxing is more popular in the USA. Globally there's no debate.....its boxing.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke No, it is very obvious that both globally and nationally MMA is larger. More people know what boxing is worldwide, but do you even know the #1 heavyweight boxer right now? ...No, huh? How about the UFC heavyweight champion? Oh, Brock Lesnar, you got that one quick!
mike2finch 1 year ago
@mike2finch wow, you overwhelmed me with facts. how do I ever respond to that? BTW....that was sarcasm. Please stop posting here unless you have something remotely intelligent to add.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@Designing5 that's not true at all. Fighters in MMA need to learn every aspect of fighting to be top contender or champion and there not lazy in training in the different fighting disciplines. Look at Chuck Liddell he is 5th degree black belt in kenpo and black belt in karate amd a great wrestler, Anderson silver black belt in bjj and other disciplines. These fighter are great athletes.
Acefighter0098 1 year ago
@Designing5 Neither will push the other aside. If you like combat sports, you like both. MMA employs a lot of boxing. I'm sure there's MMA guys who don't like boxing. I know there's boxing guys who don't care for the wrestling aspect of MMA. People who keep trying to say MMA is taking over and that its killing boxing are just Dana White parrots. Think for yourself......use your brain and analyze all the info at your disposal. Stop being so easily influenced.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke holy crap u just said what i was gonna say i dont hate mma if i had the time i would watch it like i use to i dont follow it no more cuz boxing is my fav sport and there are still a lot more kids that are learning boxing cuz of their dads and they discover the sport when they learn it and for does of u that say boxing is dead u guys are dana white parrots cough joe rogan cough but lets enjoy both sports ok
keithownseveryone09 1 year ago
@keithownseveryone09 joe aint a puppet neither am i where do u get that now mike goldberg hes a puppet but floyd mayweather now hes a puppet and boxing got puppets puppet in my eyes=fan so plz stop thx
mattitudev1hardy 1 year ago
@Designing5 So what if Oscar had an average record late in his career and retired after losing to Pac? What's your point? He was still a PPV star but Oscar wasn't really a good fighter anymore. You're seeing the same thing with MMA fighters like Ortiz, Couture and Liddell. All have fought for too long. MMA's growth WILL NOT affect boxing. Don't you get it?!!! You don't have to choose one sport or the other. People watch both. Stop trying to pit the two sports against each other!!
BazookaIke 1 year ago
boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
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boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.more exciting you dont turn away when its on.and who the hell is boxing anyway its dead.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
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i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
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i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
i loved boxing when the two best would sign a paper and fight each other.that dont happen anymore and if it does. the time has passed to much ducking.and lets face it,boxing is only one aspect in mma. the most exciting part for most people but still one aspect.boxing is dead .MMA is taking over weather you like it or not. learn mma. the ground game,defense,strengths,weakness,jujitsu,muah thai,and you know boxing.look it all up on here you will forget about boxing forever.
spotmeadub 1 year ago
Wow, i hate how this boxing guy is just saying, oh boxing has big fights, and just mentions de la hoya the whole time...Boxing has one big fight a year, and the Mayweather Pacquio fight will be the last big boxing event..
questionvideo 1 year ago
@questionvideo Boxing has many big fights each year. Its no different than MMA. MMA's only big "event" fights surround Lesnar. All others are much smaller in PPV numbers. Only ignorant WWE fans masquerading as MMA fans try to claim boxing has nothing going for it.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke What? Either way UFC sells the most PPV's...the people who are famous in boxing now, will be the ONLY famous boxers...there wont be any new huge icons of boxing...
questionvideo 1 year ago
@questionvideo Blah Blah Blah....you WWE fans all say the same thing. You said there would be nothing after Oscar vs. Floyd. Now you're saying there will be nothing after Floyd vs. Pac. It was said after the decline of guys like Holyfield and Tyson. Where's your capacity to learn? To say boxing won't have any more huge stars in the future is fuckin' stupid. Do you have a crystal ball?
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Im a WWE fan? One big fighter from WWE makes it big in the UFC and you generalize and assume we are all WWE fans...Brock was also a division once national champion wrestler...which doesnt have anything to do with WWE. Okay, i just want to know who in the last five years has made a huge name for himself in boxing?
questionvideo 1 year ago
@questionvideo I equate many UFC fans to WWE fans. IQ levels are about the same.......specifically when they try to talk about boxing. You clearly don't know anything about that sport.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Dude, you're just like Lou...I love boxing, i just know its dying, im moving on and so are other people. But I do know when someone like James Toney can win a heavyweight championship..its not really a bumping sport.
questionvideo 1 year ago
@questionvideo
1. Toney wasn't the heavyweight champ. There's a ton of trinkets out there and he won one of them, but was never the recognized champ. He was also stripped shortly thereafter for a positive test for PEDs.
2. Boxing ain't dying.
3. You're a fuckin' idiot.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke I'm not trying to say that boxing is dying or anything like that but to say that the only big events surround Lesnar is truly ignorant. You claim that everyone on here bashing boxing has no clue about the sport, which is probably right, but if your going to make claims like those are the only big events you're insane. Guys like Anderson Silva, GSP, BJ Penn, etc all the big names draw just as much. Lesnar brings a different crowd thats all. Boxing has just as many big fights? Lmao....
BobReefer 1 year ago
@BobReefer Actually, you're the one being ignorant and this is why. When people say boxing is dying, they say that the only big events in boxing are the ones which sell over 1 million PPVs. Well....how many of those UFC fighters you mentioned can sell 1 million or more? Only Lesnar seems to be able to do so.......so if we judge a "big event" by those standards, the UFC has only one big name. Understand what I'm saying? I'm just throwing ignorance back in their faces.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BobReefer And to add to what I just posted.....I don't believe that measuring a sport's impending death is based on how many fights can sell 1 million PPVs. IMO the biggest events like that are typically not the best fights in terms of action. Its all about crossover appeal. Floyd Mayweather marketed himself correctly so now he is able to be a huge gate attraction. Is he the most exciting fighter out there? NO!! Not even close. Neither is GSP in MMA........
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BobReefer In summary, when some idiot MMA fan says that boxing is dying because it only has one or two megastars that attract a large number of celebs and tv attention.........I say stfu because they don't know what they're talking about. Neither boxing nor MMA is entirely about the events that catch the attention of the casual fans. Both have tons of great fights that aren't highly marketable to the casual fans. Problem is, the ignorant MMA fan recognizes this for MMA but not for boxing
BazookaIke 1 year ago
BOXING AND MMA ARE TWO GREAT COMBAT SPORTS...sad to say boxing is in its dark ages....when Pacquaio,Mayweather retires boxing will sink...these two are the two main reasons why people still watch boxing...
marxcryz 1 year ago
@marxcryz No, you're wrong. This is the uninformed take that too many people try to tell others about boxing. It simply isn't true. Using this logic, MMA would be in a lot of trouble as well, since we saw the end of an era last night with Fedor getting beat.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Not true at all. Fedor isn't looked up upon by the entire MMA community and there are a great many people that don't value him because of the quality of fighters he has fought in his last ten fights. MMA has so many big names that it doesn't need to depend on a less than a handful of fighters like boxing does.
BodybuildingTom 1 year ago
@BodybuildingTom Hilarious that this response comes only after Fedor just lost.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke If you go on Sherdog you'll see all the *insert here* would beat Fedor threads and all the Fedor only fights can threads. Even on youtube has a bunch of videos to that effect.
BodybuildingTom 1 year ago
@BodybuildingTom Yes of course people have been predicting it lately. He hasn't looked great in his last couple fights, he's getting older and then you look at how small he is in comparison to the younger generation of heavyweights. Its tough enough to give up so much height and weight to your opponent, but then factor in the age disparity and of course Fedor is going to start getting tested more than ever. I just find it funny that people now are trying to downgrade his accomplishments.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke You realize Fedors last fight compared to Lesnars last fight didn't sell anything. Fedor losing means strikeforce is losing business. Ufc fans usually dont give a shit about fedor, I personally was bummed out because he lost. Mma is in it's prime man, it's prime. Lol
Vaultzero 1 year ago
@Vaultzero Yes I realize this. You know what else I realize? That "ufc fans" are among the most ignorant and divisive people I have ever encountered. Why is that? Why does UFC fan not care about an MMA legend simply because he fights for another company? Why does UFC fan think that there has to be a war between it and boxing? Why does UFC fan think that everyone has to choose....either boxing or MMA? Why can't UFC fan realize this is pointless? Stop drawing lines in the sand.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke
1. Ufc fans don't care about Fedor because he simply isn't in the Ufc.
2. Ufc fans think there have to be a war because of what idiot boxers say about the sport .
3. Idk why they think ppl have too choose. Lol
4. Ufc fans don't realize it's pointless because they don't care about it, we simply like to troll. Lol It's kinda like football teams lol everyone has their favorite and will fight in what they believe in. At least mma fans are loyal and defend what they believe, ya know. Lol
Vaultzero 1 year ago
@Vaultzero Honest response by you.
1. that's pretty shallow though. if you like MMA, you should enjoy all of it and not just one brand name.
2. UFC people say stupid shit about boxing too.
4. it helps to be informed on all points if you're going to defend something. this is like politics.....the "ufc fan" according to you is just blindly following the leader, accepting what he says as gospel.
BazookaIke 1 year ago
@BazookaIke Lmao you just described like 75% of the ufc fan base. Me, I just love the sport but to a lot of people this is like religion. Not in the sense these people are mystical and holy, but that they are like living monuments that deserve respect. It's weird, people actually get in fights over this stuff, but I guess thats any sport these days. Haha Oh and most of the ufc guys I've seen in interviews weren't talking bad about boxing, just the boxers bashing ufc. They appreciate the sport.
Vaultzero 1 year ago
I think about Henderson KOing Bisping years later!!
sarahskeeney94 1 year ago
I remember seeing this live a few years ago. The saddest thing was that the guy from the Orange County Register said that De La Hoya showed no signs of slowing down and that he wasn't going anywhere. Sucks that Oscar told Freddie Roach "I just don't have it anymore" a few seconds after losing the fight.
Deej1188 1 year ago
arguing on the internet is like running in the speacial olympics. even if you win you're still retarded.
ScotLaRoc1 1 year ago
I just now noticed that Dana forgot to mention Gonzaga. Size-wize, Gonzaga's pretty damn big too, and Couture mollywhomped him.
CynicsCorner 1 year ago
fucking old people I always see some old people on youtube interviews complaining about mma