1. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001- ‘ The land she has bought so far generally will be left alone so it can recover from heavy logging, she said. In the future, campgrounds and visitor centers could be built on some parcels. She hopes ultimately to donate the land she buys to the federal government for inclusion in the proposed national park.
2. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001 ‘Quimby, 50, is a member of RESTORE's board of directors. Like a modern-day Percival Baxter, she hopes to nudge the park from dream to reality by buying up the land herself.
3. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001 In fact, she said, ‘very few people derive a living from the woods. She says most people do as she did before she became a wealthy businesswoman: They cut some wood, farm some vegetables, make some crafts to sell at fairs’.
4. AMERICANS FOR A MAINE WOODS NATIONAL PARK AND PRESERVE ANNOUNCED 2003- Formation of a new group of national leaders called “Americans for a Maine Woods National Park” has been announced by its Co-Chairs Will LaPage and Roxanne Quimby. To date, 110 distinguished Americans from many walks of life have joined this national advisory committee in order to promote the proposed 3.2 Million acre Maine Woods National Park and Preserve
5. Maine Enviormental News 11/24/2003. ‘Her goal is to buy as much forestland as possible, help it become truly wild and donate the land for a national park. The environmental organization RESTORE: The North Woods is working to establish a 3.2 million-acre national park and preserve around "forever wild" Baxter State Park. Quimby has been a public advocate of RESTORE’s effort’.
6. National Geographic News Feb. 2004- Americans for a Maine Woods National Park, an interest group that was founded by RESTORE: The North Woods, a conservation organization that's spearheading a protection plan for an enormous swath of woodlands in the U.S. East. The proposed national park would encompass 3.2 million acres (1.3 million hectares), an area larger than Yellowstone and Yosemite combined.
7. Northern Sky News June 2004- She recently left the board of RESTORE, and is now active with a group called Americans for a Maine Woods National Park. The group is actively working to get more people outside northern Maine interested in the park proposal.
8. Northern Sky News June 2004-“We have attempted to take the question out of Maine, certainly out of northern Maine, where there is an enormous backlash but very few people,” says Quimby. “This is a national park, it should be on the national agenda. ... So our strategy is to take it out of Piscataquis and Penobscot counties where it will simply bubble away and nothing will ever happen.”
9. YANKEE MAGZINE 2008 ‘At the time, Roxanne was on the board of RESTORE: “People up there hate RESTORE, so I put some distance between us at that point. I didn’t need that.”
* As of July 2011 Roxanne Quimby is still listed on the Restore website as calling for a 3.2 million acre park.
10. The Quimby Family Foundation lists RESTORE as one of the beneficiaries of its grants for 2010 and 2011
11. The Quimby Family Foundation lists the Forest Ecology Network as a grantee for 2005, 2006 and 2008. FEN is one of the organizations calling for a 3.2 Million acre Park.
12. YANKEE MAGZINE 2008 ‘There is nothing more real than real estate, and Roxanne has repeatedly said she would like to see the lands she has acquired become the seeds of a new national park. What she owns now would be a very credible beginning’
13. RESTORES WEBSITE JULY 2011 “American people love their national parks.”
Ms. Quimby hopes Mr. Spalding and Restore’s [Maine] director, Mr. St. Pierre, are right. The idea of a park, she said, “floats my boat.” She prefers that her 75,000 acres become a base on which Restore’s 3.2-million acre park could be built.
14. SUN JOURNAL MAY 2011 - I still love the vision of a 3.2-million-acre national park in Maine,” said Quimby, “but I know it’s not going to happen in my lifetime. This is what I can do now.
15. Maine Public Radio 9/21/11 -“I (RQ)feel best about limiting the conversation to land that I own so that's why I'm talking about 70,000 acres and not 3.2 million but theoretically the sky's the limit!
16. KEEP MAINE BEAUTIFUL WEBSITE (RQ’S WEBSITE AUGUST 2011) - EPI’s ongoing land acquisition efforts, communication with local recreational users to identify their needs, and collaboration with the National Park Service has led Roxanne and her foundation to conclude that federal protection is the best management option for EPI’s lands and the public.
17. Friends of Baxter newsletter Fall 2011 Vol. 10 #4: The total land area Quimby hopes to convey is approximately 140,000 acres.
18. The National Park Conservation Association website has a page highlighting Roxanne Quimby’s work. It states that the proposal is for 3.2 million acres.
19. Until the fall of 2011 EPI’s website maintained a link to RESTORES website. This was removed after park critics pointed it out.
20. National Parks Traveler magazine also says that the proposal calls for a park of 3.2 million acres created in time for the National Park Service's centennial in 2016
21. Maine Woods National park website calls for a 3.2 million acre park
22. Maine Woods National Park and Preserve website lists Roxanne Quimby as the Co chair. It states that the proposed park is 3.2 Million acres. Its map is the same as RESTORES map for the park.
Heartily disagree with this idea. Let me start I personally have only experienced a small fraction of the Maine woods. I have paddled the Allagash, St. John, Penobscot, Dead, Moose, and Kennebec. Spent many weekends criss crossing the dirt roads fly fishing, hiking and camping with friends. My family has a camp on the extremely north end of the Maine woods. And I lived for three years on Mt. Desert Island, the home of Acadia national park. And I am in love with it all.
@jflaherty234 Thank you....you hit it right on the head. Coming from my point of view (I am a logger), I know exactly what would happen if a national park was created. A lot of loggers, maybe myself included, foresters, mill workers, carpenters etc. would be hurt by this and the people out there like myself would lose their jobs. They want the entire north maine woods...not just 3 million acres. It makes me sick...
Many proponents feel that a park would create "public access" and preservation of the woods and wildlife. But they fail to recognize that these are long standing tenants that Maine has stood by for years. I would encourage at this moment all who have yet to experience this to take a trip to Maine and enjoy the vast wilderness, nearly all of the paper lands plus preserved lands of the Saint John, Allagash, Appalachian Trail, and Baxter (to name a few) to which we all in this country have access.
Wood harvesting is a major component of the northern Maine economy. Many of you seem to belittle this fact. As painful as it is to see cut lands, logging in maine is done sustainably through selective cutting and parceling across the whole of the Maine woods. A process that I would argue is healthy for both the woods and economy. Mainers more than anyone recognize the importance of conservation for the lands they work and play in.
Economically speaking restricting logging to a smaller corridor would put undue economic strain on both loggers and the woods themselves. Additionally, this would put a financial strain on the Park Service to maintain roads deep into the maine woods, to which we already have full access, and which are currently paid for and rebuild yearly after the winter runoff by the paper companies. Your math simply doesn't add up.
I consider myself a conservationist and outdoorsman at heart, but fail to see the merit of forming a National Park. This is not to say there lack room for improvement. But, as much as I respect the national park system, we don't need a sign of approval to attract people to some of the most beautiful woods in the country. Those who have an appreciation for the outdoors have and always will come, they will write about it, read about it, hear stories from their family and friends.
Where the hell would you people be without a house to live under, whos roof and walls are made of WOOD. Or furniture, which is constructed from WOOD. Or toilet paper to wipe your asses. Or paper for your kids to write on in school. Where would you hippies be in life without us? Nowheres. Were out there risking our lives everyday so you ppl can have these simple luxuries, and were out to make a good, hard, honest living just like everyone else. You dont like it? Go to hell. I rest my case.
This directed to roxanne quimby and all the other assholes that want this to happen. I work in the North Maine Woods running a feller buncher over 60 hours a week. There are hundreds of hard working men like me that rely on that land to make a hard living, we LIVE on that land. We take care of the land when we harvest so we can have trees in the future to harvest and use for products. To all the assholes who want to take what little us loggers have, I hope all burn. You anti-logging assholes
people, we already have a national park here in Maine, and a Large state park in this same area! this new proposal will only kill jobs, and it will be the biggest land grab by the government ever! people call your senetors and congress reps and voice your concern about keeping the feds out of our land!
@spec24 You seem to be some kind of idiot teabagger who is unable to see things past the imaginary 'us vs the government' dichotomy. I'm sure these private landowners care so much about their own land...that is until they can find way to profit off it (resorts, housing developments etc). But many of the private landowners are those who come from conservation trusts and nonprofits and are in agreement with the national park mission so you're kind of deflating your own argument there.
@Troutlander Oh, by the way, I'm not from Massachusetts-I guess that's who you are referring to with the insult "masshole"-i fact I spent years living in Alaska among its great parks. I can tell you from experience that by not allowing this park to go in you are making a HUGE mistake.
@Troutlander You make a PARK sound like a nuclear power plant. I really don't get this, the evidence shows that every one of America's 58 national parks has created jobs, expanded access and preserved a way of life that almost surely would have vanished otherwise.
@Ophidiophobic75 what way of life are you talking about? And why is that a bad thing? Other "ways of life" that have vanished from America: the stone age, the bronze age, the iron age, the milkman, the iceman, horse drawn carriage manufactures. The dirty little secret that they're not telling you here is that most of this land "up for grabs" has been sold off to other timber companies or companies involved in timber. There's money to be made from these woods as long as people need wood.
@Ophidiophobic75 created jobs?? What? Park rangers? Quite the strawman argument as you are unable to see any of the jobs that would have been created if these lands had remained in private hands. I'm not for decimating the lands by any means, but they don't need to be owned by "the people" (which is bullshit, it becomes gov't property, which as much as people would like to think, isn't the people any more) to accomplish that. In fact, private land ownership would in FACT do a better job.
@Ophidiophobic75 because it would be a stupid thing to do. Notice that it hasn't happened yet, and the great north woods is still there, free, unspoiled. Don't believe the video. Have the government come in with their regulations, pave over the gravel roads so every idiot with an SUV can think he's roughing it, and your wilderness isn't so wild anymore.
And I WOULD go recreate and spend money in Maine IF it were protected as wilderness. But I WILL NOT if things remain as they are in Maine. I'll continue to spend my time and money in the Adirondacks - and when I have MORE time I'll go to the Ontario wilderness instead of Maine.
@twochordcool and your reasoning is what? IT IS PROTECTED! It's protected by a joint relationship between the state of Maine and private land owners who care a HELL of a lot more about their own land than any damn bureaucratic does! But it's good that you don't come, because it means less nimrods mucking up the wilderness and killing it for the rest of us, like the other Federal Parks have done.
I wish this could turn into a reality - but I'm afraid that unlike people yesterday, who saw value in saving our national natural treasures before they were destroyed or fragmented, most people today SUCK - especially the ignorant redneck morons who live in northern Maine. GOOD LUCK getting them to give up their shitty meager existence to allow something to go through that would be great for MILLIONS of people. They'd probably even improve their OWN lives if they moved to civilization.
@twochordcool Buddy, if you ever come to nothern maine you would find probably the kindest, most generous people you could ever meet. I work my ass off out there everyday and put my life on the line so you and your family can wipe your asses with toilet paper. I love the woods like a sailor loves the sea, and the North Maine Woods IS my life. Dont ever say that we live a shitty meager existence. You arent any better for shitting on people you dont even know OVER FUCKING YOUTUBE. Grow up.
@mainelogger91 Here's the deal "buddy" - the entire northern half of Maine is just one big tree farm. You don't need this much land to make toilet paper for me to wipe my ass with. There are NO significant national parks on the east coast, especially in the northeast. There is a chance to preserve wilderness in Maine. You should support the idea. Your job probably will not disappear but if it did I'm sure you could adapt - for a good cause. Maine has done a POOR job considering all that land.
@twochordcool When theres no jobs to adapt to, what do you do? Good cause? My occupation is a good cause. I understand where your coming from, but hundreds of people, maybe even myself, would lose their jobs if this happened and I just can't justify it. I respect your opinion, but I dont agree with it.
@mainelogger91 There are MILLIONS of undeveloped acres in the northern half of Maine. If half or more became a national park you would still have a job. (You are not logging all of it all the time) The few who lose their jobs would have to adjust, with the millions of other Americans having to do so at this time. And that might almost require you voting for politicians who TRULY care that Americans have jobs.
@twochordcool Roxanne quimby also stated in an interview that she wants ALL of north maine woods, from Millinocket, to ashland and the allagash where I operate out of, all the way up to Escourt where I also operate. She ALSO called us mainers "Fat, living on welfare, and addicted to oxycodone." Do you really want someone who called us that to handle OUR land? Someone who isnt even from maine? She, and everyone else who wants this, will never get my support. Ever.
My family lives in Northern Maine, they own a business up there. Everyday is a struggle for them, but it is still their home. The thought of some group just coming in and taking everything they have worked their entire life for is ridiculous. Maine doesn't need to be restored, especially northern Maine. If you're worried about the future start focusing on larger cities. And to all you "Massholes" who promote this or live in Maine go back to your fucking state!
Anybody who thinks this is a great idea should advocate and visit RESTORE: The Maine North Woods website and donate. To anybody who doesn't think this is a great idea I urge you to take another look and think about it. Think about the FUTURE.
The opportunity for a Maine Woods National Park cannot pass unfulfilled. This is not just a place for recreation. Vast open spaces are necessary for our imagination.
@2flight But that's just it! The north Maine woods IS vast open spaces. And no one is keeping it from the public. So where is the issue? This video makes assumptions that aren't verifiable and scream in the face of logic. National parks have lodges and all kinds of that bring tons of people in every year. These wild areas of our country aren't real, they are man made reservations. The Maine woods is real, without the deluge of people every year that needs an army of caretakers.
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A change in Roxannes tactics does not mean a change in her/RESTORE's agenda. People are not that stupid.
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70,000 or 3.2 Million Which is it?
1. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001- ‘ The land she has bought so far generally will be left alone so it can recover from heavy logging, she said. In the future, campgrounds and visitor centers could be built on some parcels. She hopes ultimately to donate the land she buys to the federal government for inclusion in the proposed national park.
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2. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001 ‘Quimby, 50, is a member of RESTORE's board of directors. Like a modern-day Percival Baxter, she hopes to nudge the park from dream to reality by buying up the land herself.
3. BANGOR DAILY NEWS July 10 2001 In fact, she said, ‘very few people derive a living from the woods. She says most people do as she did before she became a wealthy businesswoman: They cut some wood, farm some vegetables, make some crafts to sell at fairs’.
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4. AMERICANS FOR A MAINE WOODS NATIONAL PARK AND PRESERVE ANNOUNCED 2003- Formation of a new group of national leaders called “Americans for a Maine Woods National Park” has been announced by its Co-Chairs Will LaPage and Roxanne Quimby. To date, 110 distinguished Americans from many walks of life have joined this national advisory committee in order to promote the proposed 3.2 Million acre Maine Woods National Park and Preserve
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5. Maine Enviormental News 11/24/2003. ‘Her goal is to buy as much forestland as possible, help it become truly wild and donate the land for a national park. The environmental organization RESTORE: The North Woods is working to establish a 3.2 million-acre national park and preserve around "forever wild" Baxter State Park. Quimby has been a public advocate of RESTORE’s effort’.
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6. National Geographic News Feb. 2004- Americans for a Maine Woods National Park, an interest group that was founded by RESTORE: The North Woods, a conservation organization that's spearheading a protection plan for an enormous swath of woodlands in the U.S. East. The proposed national park would encompass 3.2 million acres (1.3 million hectares), an area larger than Yellowstone and Yosemite combined.
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7. Northern Sky News June 2004- She recently left the board of RESTORE, and is now active with a group called Americans for a Maine Woods National Park. The group is actively working to get more people outside northern Maine interested in the park proposal.
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8. Northern Sky News June 2004-“We have attempted to take the question out of Maine, certainly out of northern Maine, where there is an enormous backlash but very few people,” says Quimby. “This is a national park, it should be on the national agenda. ... So our strategy is to take it out of Piscataquis and Penobscot counties where it will simply bubble away and nothing will ever happen.”
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9. YANKEE MAGZINE 2008 ‘At the time, Roxanne was on the board of RESTORE: “People up there hate RESTORE, so I put some distance between us at that point. I didn’t need that.”
* As of July 2011 Roxanne Quimby is still listed on the Restore website as calling for a 3.2 million acre park.
10. The Quimby Family Foundation lists RESTORE as one of the beneficiaries of its grants for 2010 and 2011
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11. The Quimby Family Foundation lists the Forest Ecology Network as a grantee for 2005, 2006 and 2008. FEN is one of the organizations calling for a 3.2 Million acre Park.
12. YANKEE MAGZINE 2008 ‘There is nothing more real than real estate, and Roxanne has repeatedly said she would like to see the lands she has acquired become the seeds of a new national park. What she owns now would be a very credible beginning’
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13. RESTORES WEBSITE JULY 2011 “American people love their national parks.”
Ms. Quimby hopes Mr. Spalding and Restore’s [Maine] director, Mr. St. Pierre, are right. The idea of a park, she said, “floats my boat.” She prefers that her 75,000 acres become a base on which Restore’s 3.2-million acre park could be built.
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14. SUN JOURNAL MAY 2011 - I still love the vision of a 3.2-million-acre national park in Maine,” said Quimby, “but I know it’s not going to happen in my lifetime. This is what I can do now.
15. Maine Public Radio 9/21/11 -“I (RQ)feel best about limiting the conversation to land that I own so that's why I'm talking about 70,000 acres and not 3.2 million but theoretically the sky's the limit!
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16. KEEP MAINE BEAUTIFUL WEBSITE (RQ’S WEBSITE AUGUST 2011) - EPI’s ongoing land acquisition efforts, communication with local recreational users to identify their needs, and collaboration with the National Park Service has led Roxanne and her foundation to conclude that federal protection is the best management option for EPI’s lands and the public.
17. Friends of Baxter newsletter Fall 2011 Vol. 10 #4: The total land area Quimby hopes to convey is approximately 140,000 acres.
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18. The National Park Conservation Association website has a page highlighting Roxanne Quimby’s work. It states that the proposal is for 3.2 million acres.
19. Until the fall of 2011 EPI’s website maintained a link to RESTORES website. This was removed after park critics pointed it out.
20. National Parks Traveler magazine also says that the proposal calls for a park of 3.2 million acres created in time for the National Park Service's centennial in 2016
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21. Maine Woods National park website calls for a 3.2 million acre park
22. Maine Woods National Park and Preserve website lists Roxanne Quimby as the Co chair. It states that the proposed park is 3.2 Million acres. Its map is the same as RESTORES map for the park.
matatgamon 1 month ago
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grandisleme 1 month ago
Heartily disagree with this idea. Let me start I personally have only experienced a small fraction of the Maine woods. I have paddled the Allagash, St. John, Penobscot, Dead, Moose, and Kennebec. Spent many weekends criss crossing the dirt roads fly fishing, hiking and camping with friends. My family has a camp on the extremely north end of the Maine woods. And I lived for three years on Mt. Desert Island, the home of Acadia national park. And I am in love with it all.
jflaherty234 1 month ago
@jflaherty234 Thank you....you hit it right on the head. Coming from my point of view (I am a logger), I know exactly what would happen if a national park was created. A lot of loggers, maybe myself included, foresters, mill workers, carpenters etc. would be hurt by this and the people out there like myself would lose their jobs. They want the entire north maine woods...not just 3 million acres. It makes me sick...
mainelogger91 1 month ago
Many proponents feel that a park would create "public access" and preservation of the woods and wildlife. But they fail to recognize that these are long standing tenants that Maine has stood by for years. I would encourage at this moment all who have yet to experience this to take a trip to Maine and enjoy the vast wilderness, nearly all of the paper lands plus preserved lands of the Saint John, Allagash, Appalachian Trail, and Baxter (to name a few) to which we all in this country have access.
jflaherty234 1 month ago
Wood harvesting is a major component of the northern Maine economy. Many of you seem to belittle this fact. As painful as it is to see cut lands, logging in maine is done sustainably through selective cutting and parceling across the whole of the Maine woods. A process that I would argue is healthy for both the woods and economy. Mainers more than anyone recognize the importance of conservation for the lands they work and play in.
jflaherty234 1 month ago
Economically speaking restricting logging to a smaller corridor would put undue economic strain on both loggers and the woods themselves. Additionally, this would put a financial strain on the Park Service to maintain roads deep into the maine woods, to which we already have full access, and which are currently paid for and rebuild yearly after the winter runoff by the paper companies. Your math simply doesn't add up.
jflaherty234 1 month ago
I consider myself a conservationist and outdoorsman at heart, but fail to see the merit of forming a National Park. This is not to say there lack room for improvement. But, as much as I respect the national park system, we don't need a sign of approval to attract people to some of the most beautiful woods in the country. Those who have an appreciation for the outdoors have and always will come, they will write about it, read about it, hear stories from their family and friends.
jflaherty234 1 month ago
Where the hell would you people be without a house to live under, whos roof and walls are made of WOOD. Or furniture, which is constructed from WOOD. Or toilet paper to wipe your asses. Or paper for your kids to write on in school. Where would you hippies be in life without us? Nowheres. Were out there risking our lives everyday so you ppl can have these simple luxuries, and were out to make a good, hard, honest living just like everyone else. You dont like it? Go to hell. I rest my case.
mainelogger91 2 months ago
This directed to roxanne quimby and all the other assholes that want this to happen. I work in the North Maine Woods running a feller buncher over 60 hours a week. There are hundreds of hard working men like me that rely on that land to make a hard living, we LIVE on that land. We take care of the land when we harvest so we can have trees in the future to harvest and use for products. To all the assholes who want to take what little us loggers have, I hope all burn. You anti-logging assholes
mainelogger91 2 months ago
people, we already have a national park here in Maine, and a Large state park in this same area! this new proposal will only kill jobs, and it will be the biggest land grab by the government ever! people call your senetors and congress reps and voice your concern about keeping the feds out of our land!
Johnnyturbo20v 3 months ago
no more national parks!
Mont556n 5 months ago
@spec24 You seem to be some kind of idiot teabagger who is unable to see things past the imaginary 'us vs the government' dichotomy. I'm sure these private landowners care so much about their own land...that is until they can find way to profit off it (resorts, housing developments etc). But many of the private landowners are those who come from conservation trusts and nonprofits and are in agreement with the national park mission so you're kind of deflating your own argument there.
cannedkitty 10 months ago
Maine already has a national park we don't need people from out of state taking our land to make it what they want.
truckpullr 1 year ago
@Troutlander Oh, by the way, I'm not from Massachusetts-I guess that's who you are referring to with the insult "masshole"-i fact I spent years living in Alaska among its great parks. I can tell you from experience that by not allowing this park to go in you are making a HUGE mistake.
Ophidiophobic75 1 year ago
@Troutlander You make a PARK sound like a nuclear power plant. I really don't get this, the evidence shows that every one of America's 58 national parks has created jobs, expanded access and preserved a way of life that almost surely would have vanished otherwise.
Ophidiophobic75 1 year ago
@Ophidiophobic75 what way of life are you talking about? And why is that a bad thing? Other "ways of life" that have vanished from America: the stone age, the bronze age, the iron age, the milkman, the iceman, horse drawn carriage manufactures. The dirty little secret that they're not telling you here is that most of this land "up for grabs" has been sold off to other timber companies or companies involved in timber. There's money to be made from these woods as long as people need wood.
spec24 10 months ago
@Ophidiophobic75 created jobs?? What? Park rangers? Quite the strawman argument as you are unable to see any of the jobs that would have been created if these lands had remained in private hands. I'm not for decimating the lands by any means, but they don't need to be owned by "the people" (which is bullshit, it becomes gov't property, which as much as people would like to think, isn't the people any more) to accomplish that. In fact, private land ownership would in FACT do a better job.
spec24 10 months ago
why hasn't this become a reality yet, it seems like such an obvious thing to do....
Ophidiophobic75 1 year ago
@Ophidiophobic75 because it would be a stupid thing to do. Notice that it hasn't happened yet, and the great north woods is still there, free, unspoiled. Don't believe the video. Have the government come in with their regulations, pave over the gravel roads so every idiot with an SUV can think he's roughing it, and your wilderness isn't so wild anymore.
spec24 10 months ago
And I WOULD go recreate and spend money in Maine IF it were protected as wilderness. But I WILL NOT if things remain as they are in Maine. I'll continue to spend my time and money in the Adirondacks - and when I have MORE time I'll go to the Ontario wilderness instead of Maine.
Get your shit together Maine.
twochordcool 1 year ago
@twochordcool and your reasoning is what? IT IS PROTECTED! It's protected by a joint relationship between the state of Maine and private land owners who care a HELL of a lot more about their own land than any damn bureaucratic does! But it's good that you don't come, because it means less nimrods mucking up the wilderness and killing it for the rest of us, like the other Federal Parks have done.
spec24 10 months ago
I wish this could turn into a reality - but I'm afraid that unlike people yesterday, who saw value in saving our national natural treasures before they were destroyed or fragmented, most people today SUCK - especially the ignorant redneck morons who live in northern Maine. GOOD LUCK getting them to give up their shitty meager existence to allow something to go through that would be great for MILLIONS of people. They'd probably even improve their OWN lives if they moved to civilization.
twochordcool 1 year ago 2
@twochordcool Buddy, if you ever come to nothern maine you would find probably the kindest, most generous people you could ever meet. I work my ass off out there everyday and put my life on the line so you and your family can wipe your asses with toilet paper. I love the woods like a sailor loves the sea, and the North Maine Woods IS my life. Dont ever say that we live a shitty meager existence. You arent any better for shitting on people you dont even know OVER FUCKING YOUTUBE. Grow up.
mainelogger91 2 months ago
@mainelogger91 Here's the deal "buddy" - the entire northern half of Maine is just one big tree farm. You don't need this much land to make toilet paper for me to wipe my ass with. There are NO significant national parks on the east coast, especially in the northeast. There is a chance to preserve wilderness in Maine. You should support the idea. Your job probably will not disappear but if it did I'm sure you could adapt - for a good cause. Maine has done a POOR job considering all that land.
twochordcool 1 month ago
@twochordcool When theres no jobs to adapt to, what do you do? Good cause? My occupation is a good cause. I understand where your coming from, but hundreds of people, maybe even myself, would lose their jobs if this happened and I just can't justify it. I respect your opinion, but I dont agree with it.
mainelogger91 1 month ago
@mainelogger91 There are MILLIONS of undeveloped acres in the northern half of Maine. If half or more became a national park you would still have a job. (You are not logging all of it all the time) The few who lose their jobs would have to adjust, with the millions of other Americans having to do so at this time. And that might almost require you voting for politicians who TRULY care that Americans have jobs.
twochordcool 1 month ago
@twochordcool Roxanne quimby also stated in an interview that she wants ALL of north maine woods, from Millinocket, to ashland and the allagash where I operate out of, all the way up to Escourt where I also operate. She ALSO called us mainers "Fat, living on welfare, and addicted to oxycodone." Do you really want someone who called us that to handle OUR land? Someone who isnt even from maine? She, and everyone else who wants this, will never get my support. Ever.
mainelogger91 1 month ago
@twochordcool Im pretty sure im not fat, living off welfare, and addicted to oxycodone either.
mainelogger91 1 month ago
@twochordcool I wouldn't go ranting your opinion to other north woods loggers. A lot of them aren't as "understanding" as I am.
mainelogger91 1 month ago
My family lives in Northern Maine, they own a business up there. Everyday is a struggle for them, but it is still their home. The thought of some group just coming in and taking everything they have worked their entire life for is ridiculous. Maine doesn't need to be restored, especially northern Maine. If you're worried about the future start focusing on larger cities. And to all you "Massholes" who promote this or live in Maine go back to your fucking state!
d0wntild3ath 1 year ago
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Ophidiophobic75 1 year ago
@d0wntild3ath You obviously don't understand how the park system works, it always works around people like your family.
Ophidiophobic75 1 year ago
this needs to happen!
JMcCaughey09 2 years ago
Anybody who thinks this is a great idea should advocate and visit RESTORE: The Maine North Woods website and donate. To anybody who doesn't think this is a great idea I urge you to take another look and think about it. Think about the FUTURE.
duxnorth11 2 years ago
The opportunity for a Maine Woods National Park cannot pass unfulfilled. This is not just a place for recreation. Vast open spaces are necessary for our imagination.
2flight 2 years ago
@2flight But that's just it! The north Maine woods IS vast open spaces. And no one is keeping it from the public. So where is the issue? This video makes assumptions that aren't verifiable and scream in the face of logic. National parks have lodges and all kinds of that bring tons of people in every year. These wild areas of our country aren't real, they are man made reservations. The Maine woods is real, without the deluge of people every year that needs an army of caretakers.
spec24 10 months ago
@spec24 Maybe you should visit a national park or even learn what the hell they are before making posts like this.
cannedkitty 10 months ago