Flight path of AA77 into the pentagon

[sh9683]

@THEBIGCAGEY your a retard we do have proof (video proof) of a missile, most planes would demolish in air or stall doing that manoeuvre at that speed! and a guy who failed passing a flight test for a sezna would somehow succeed at such a manoeuvre! with a huge jet? thats what is bull!!!

[hcanuck7]

Where did all of the video tapes of the attack go ? Who SAW THEM ???

[Merlin5x5]

@hcanuck7

Here are all the video tapes of the Attack. Everybody has seen them for months.

The Parking lot CAMs are the ONLY CAMs to show the impact.

I realize TWOOFER idiots think there were 5 GAZILLION CAMS mounted on

the Pentagon, but there are NOT.

911myths. com/ index. php/ FBI_hides_ 84_Pentagon_videos

Every time there is an archive data release, the chances for a

conspiracy fade away like snow in a heater.

[intrepidorator]

Popular mechanics has debunked these 911 truthers bullshit.

[sh9683]

@intrepidorator logical physics debunked all 9/11 commission!if you mean mechanics paid by government then sure they will say whatever! prove these debunked videos, and i will try to watch them without laughing at there absolute stupidity and how they don't do accurate demonstrations!

[intrepidorator]

@sh9683 Logical physics? is that a magazine?

[sh9683]

@intrepidorator no physic people with degrees and majors in physics have proven the government story wrong,

if you look, you realize the government tweaks there story every time we come up with solid facts against the terrorist storry

[intrepidorator]

@sh9683 Look, I know that you're not able to provide any reliable sources for your conspiracy theory, that why Im not asking for 1. The fact remains, 911 was a terrorist attack. The buildings fell because of the jet airliners that flew into them. The buildings fell from the point of impact, not from the bottom up. No builoding has ever been intinntionally demolished from the middle down. Use your head.

[sh9683]

@intrepidorator lol! whatever, if you really think that hypothesis that the government came up with are true then your the one who needs to use your head! fire did not bring 7 down it was not hot enough, office fires never are hot enough to bring them down! look at windsor for one, the one in shanghai etc,

building 7 free fell straight down on itself! the twins where also merely tower fires because the jet fuel was engulfed upon impact, we see an explosion right before the collapse, why?

[intrepidorator]

@sh9683 Look, Im not debating this with you. Anyone with a mind knows that the towers fell due to the planes flying into them, your opinion is irrelevent to intelligent debate, have a nice crazy life nutjob.

[killerbam1234]

2words, inside job!

[killerbam1234]

@KRussa1994 1word, retard.

[killerbam1234]

@KRussa1994 stop reapting me brainwashed little moron.

[killerbam1234]

@KRussa1994 ffs im not brainwashed by conspiracies im freed by them while u are trapt in a box where the media tell you what to do please stop posting i cant be asked to talk to low minds like you.

[3089280288]

Can anyone find video footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon building?

[jazzfan5000]

@3089280288 No, because they haven't released any video besides the footage thatwe're already familiar with!

[chasing91a]

whats next? you have video proof the sun revolves around the earth?

[aaronshouse6977]

It is not a conspiracy if it is a fact and the fact is we have no plane parts, body parts or anything else that looks like it may have came from a 757 plane!!!!!!!!!

[mtvcmiller]

Also, Isn't it strange that almost the entire plane (including the engines) vaporized from the intense flames but yet all but one of the passengers and crew were able to be identified by their DNA. DNA is destroyed at 500 degrees. Aluminum melts at 1200 degrees. I guess the temperature would have to be a hell of a lot hotter for it to vaporize.

[Sick3ninVend3tta]

@mtvcmiller, Which begs the question?, What happened to flight 77 & its passengers?, Your take?, as you clearly suggest it couldn't have ploughed into the Pentagon.

They landed at a military base around Ohio & everyone on the flight got butchered by the US Gov't instead?.

Come on man!.

[thedynamite85]

@Sick3ninVend3tta witless protection perhaps... pretty easy to hide a couple hundred people amongst millions

[Sick3ninVend3tta]

@thedynamite85, I don't follow. "Its easy to hide a couple hundred people amongst millions"???...

Hide?.

Hide them where?. Amongst millions of what?.

[thedynamite85]

@Sick3ninVend3tta how do you not follow?

W I T N E S S P R O T E C T I O N

thats where the govt takes a WITNESS and PROTECTS them by erasing their identities and giving them a new life... new name, new money, new job, new location. pretty hard to find a needle in a stack of needles

[Sick3ninVend3tta]

@thedynamite85, Tough one to buy.

If there still on earth, Why wouldn't they want to make there way back to family & loved ones & instead stay away?.

[thedynamite85]

@Sick3ninVend3tta

its amazing what people would do for a few million dollars, immunity, protection, etc.

and you notice when they talk about Flight 93, they interview the SAME 3 women? theyre really not that convincing...

[PostalCode74]

@mtvcmiller They found PLENTY of debris consistent with a 757.

[Ryan198416]

RIP AA 77 PAX AND CREW

[mtvcmiller]

Look closely at the second animation. Notice how close the engines are to the ground. You honestly expect me to believe that an inexperienced pilot controlling this aircraft, knowing he was going to die, was able to fly into the pentagon without creating some damage to the lawn or, initially collapsing the roof?!?! Come on, people!!!

[TheMcilwee]

@mtvcmiller He wasn't landing or taking off, all it was was point and crash

[thedynamite85]

@TheMcilwee haha, did you just quote straight from the History Channel documentary? i believe you did. the side of the Pentagon is a very small target for an inexperienced pilot. i dont know from experience, but flying a 757 by sight cant be as easy as pulling a car into a garage

[bradders09123]

@mtvcmiller  i no!! It was a missile!!!!

[sh9683]

a "terrorist" that was so bad he got rejected from flight school to fly a zesna somehow managed that manoeuvre with a big jet, YEAH RIGHT not possible! is it even possible for such a manoeuvre to be done without the plane shattering before impact? i think not, it would have stalled or broken! and if the terrorist threatened the pilot he was going to die if he didn't fly the plane into the pentagon, just remember the pilot woulda been a dead dude! think about it people, you are right btw

[pjkilmer]

watch?v=t1wQ2BJsgx0

watch?v=f-mYoJed3SE

How much do you care about whether what you believe is true or not? Do you want truth or are you more concerned with proving what you believe to be true?

Truth or paranoid wasteful dogma...

[pjkilmer]

Just like creationist propaganda, conspiracy theorists put out misleading propaganda & people eat it up. Look at the evidence & u will see that these people put out info in similar fashion as creationists quote mining Darwin & others, quotes where they leave out the immediate subsequent context that wld contradict their claim.

Stop being as stupid as the ones putting this crap out there that takes so much focus & energy off of real issues & spits in the face of 9-11 survivers.

[logicCplusplus]

Liberals are dominant in the conspiracy theorist field. There are far more creationist conservatives than creationist liberals. BTW, Evolution is true except Darwin got it all wrong, Darwin was no engineer indeed.

[jazzfan5000]

@pjkilmer Exactly!

[jonzxcv]

this is just an animation, and second, how could a plane that size fit into a hole that small? where was all the wreckage? how come footage from only 1 camera was released to prove that Flight 77 "crashed into" The Pentagon. if a plane really did hit it, and because TP is so heavily guarded, the US Gov would have released more footage to prove that it was indeed a commercial airliner rather than a missile or a commuter plane

[WWEinvadesTNA8]

it didn't bounce off the lawn, that's for damn sure

[OldSouthernSoldier]

I hate to break it to you, but that was a cartoon. That was not actual footage of anything. But an animators vision of what happened.

[vman996]

Dont forget, that part of the Pentagon that was bombed by the US Gov held all the details re: The Missing 3 Trillion dollars from the US Gov Military budget....How strange????

[kochkochkoch]

the second is the real one

[mtvcmiller]

For those of you who still believe the official account of what happened at the pentagon, please click on my channel link(mtvcmiller) and check out my latest upload, Former 9/11 Commissioner admits Missile hit the Pentagon. A MUST SEE!!!

[bondwink]

I would like to ask questions, and demand answers - and put Bush in prison, but I don't know where to start?

[sethmanrockandroll]

Where the hell do the anti-conspiracy posters come from?

There's a crapload of knuckleheads moving around the internet to sling F-words and call us stupid for asking reasonable questions. I have no idea whats going on, but its suspicious, damn it.

I encourage everyone to look at these F-word sling SOB's and keep an eye at how fluidly they travel. This looks like a whole conspiracy in itself.

This video is a good eye on how newsmedia will slip in little things to confuse us, good work sir!

[lkodi2k5]

First off..how can a 757, that big have flown so low in DC for all places(I live 20 mins from DC and go there frequently) and not even scraped the ground or touch anything other then the pentagon's side. Also why is there no plane wreckage left since that "explosion" never happened

[Gangstabob716]

that wud be because a plane never hit the pentagon...it was U.S army missle...

[Airportchris2]

Sure was.

[StealthSteez]

haha epic fail...

[Airportchris2]

What the official government story?

[mtheriault6]

first off the 757 hit a taxi, and 3 telephone poles.........

[Airportchris2]

Actually, it hit 5 light poles, and 1 of which hit a taxi.

[4dangler]

No, that is incorrect. That is what the govt. and the ntsb want you to believe. Please check out videos "Deconstruction of the Pentagon Attacks" to see the actual flight path. The full story surrounding the light poles and taxi driver can be found in episode 7.

[Airportchris2]

I know, I was trying to explain to them.

[4dangler]

It DID NOT hit five light poles, and one of them DID NOT hit a taxi.

[Airportchris2]

Actually, it didn't hit any light poles, and the taxi was staged, as was all of 9/11.

[4dangler]

Ok. I'm glad we agree. :)

[FairlyUnbalancedNews]

They didn't make the second animation, that's why...

[Airportchris2]

For one, neither video is accurate, the plane being that fast would not be allowed to get lower than 60ft, b/c of a thing called Ground Effect, as stated by aerodynamic engineers.

[TR7Blunt]

A Plane?

Do you got your findings from here btw?

watch?v=DFK1rvL2NoQ

[spudmustang]

Who cares? The plane hit the building. Just because a documentary shows conflicting computer animations doesn't mean anything.

[mtvcmiller]

Let's get something straight here! The first animation shown was to line up with the collapse of the roof which didn't happen on the initial impact. The second animation was the supposed actual flight path into the pentagon that knocked over light poles and caused no damage to the lawn and left the roof somewhat fatigued but intact. In other words, a pinpoint strike! According to interviews, the hijacker in control of the plane had been denied the rental of a Cessna because he couldn't fly it!

[watchstrap1]

dead right these guys only knew how to fly, not land i imagine it would take a good pilot to do that or was it just luck???

[captainbedworthy]

Cartoons aren't real, kid. Neither is "Santa". Sorry to be the one but somebody had to tell you.

[Androidmonkey4001]

OMG you fuckin moron hahahahaha, you're so stupid. That first animation is just a fuckin computer animation for visual effects, they never said it was a simulation. Are you fuckin retarded LMAO!! But way to take it out of context moron.

[Elkahatchee9]

The fact that the two simulations differ slightly is irrelevant; they are not meant to be identical.

Looking at this vid, I would assume the 1st sim is meant to be a generalization of Ft 77 striking the Pentagon; the second is meant to be more specific.

[Elkahatchee9]

It's two different computer simulations, run by two different programs, from two different sources. As such, I'm sure the programmers didn't confer with each other nor would that be necessary...any such simulation is limited by the visual imaging technology BUT NOT THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT.

[captaincel]

How do you know that this is supposed to be an "accurate" simulation, and not just a simulation. They never claimed it was, plus they did show an exact simulation of it from Purdue university.

[ghk13287]

The History Channel did blow it by putting up the first video. What does that prove? HC made a mistake. Does it prove the utterly stupid, stupid, stupid conspiracy theories? Of course not. But, that is the classic moron truther mentality: find one anomaly, and then claim it proves the most fanstastically complex plot imaginable. "Oooh - look at that typo in the credits - they were bought of by Dick Cheney!"

[mtvcmiller]

Actually, it does prove there are no real "experts" when it comes to certain aspects of the events of 9/11. "Expert Response", my arse!

[pierrelongshanks]

Wikipedia is an impeachable source. AA has something like 25,000 employees. The way you wackos see an indian behind every tree is astounding that you aren't freaked out by someone turning off a light.

[InvestigatEverything]

Here's an even better one... someone at American Airlines changed the Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11. Look for yourselves. New entry says "Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001." IP that was logged for the change is registered to American Airlines intranet.

[quaheedus]

I am sure out of all the conspiracy nuts out there and out of 25,000 AA employees there are a few nuts working for AA. Big deal doesnt prove anything.

[stellapena]

Thanks for posting. I noticed that too.