you can knock someone out with that move you asshole, if you put pressure on the carotid artery you can cut off the blood flow to the brain and could cause someone to have a cardiac arest. I hope people who watch your video, don't use this move as they might kill someone. fucking prick
@streetfightsecrets I win as have been given the chance to show everyone how reckless and dangerous this is targeting an area where there are many vessels and nerves as a restrain technique. how stupid are you! did you ever wonder why that guy you knocked out collapsed you fucking bully. Use a different restrain method.
@TheMightyEuan you are so right YOU DO INDEED WIN... win yes win you have WON
the fucking guy was actually a wannabe gangster indtimidating a young fucking couple, I told him twice to fucking leave them alone and I even put the word "fucking" in the fucking sentence when I fucking told him just for fucking effect... I turned my back and 2 minutes later he was at it a-fucking-gain so I think actually he was the bully
but it doesnt change the fact you are the win, because you have won - YAY!
@streetfightsecrets your name is "street fight secrets" - but I ask you sir have you ever actually been in a fight with a street? I highly doubt this - laughable, foolish... nonsense you are the bully make all of bad teachings of wrestle with mans.
I am teh ninja master me not you fighter of streets, go pick on a road your own size
lol dont forget to head but to knock him out :P but i wouldnt do this it could kill someone i know all types of fighting n this isnt something good to do :/
this is a horrible technique.. if your trying to control the person do it with positioning and leverage.. and first off use common sense and your mouth piece to talk to em.. but in a c grip their gonna freak out on you or pass out.. if somebodys really trying to fight and in that mode.. while you have a c grip and lets say they flail around.. you could seriously injure the person.. this really isnt practical for a doorman.. in life and death.. yes.. rip the shit out.. but as a doorman.. hell na
hi ive just passed my training, then been reading up on the criminal checks and was wondering ive had three fixed penalty fines in the last 2 years for drunk and disoredely, will this stop me from being allowed a licence?
Great, sensible approach to it. LOL, I train with a guy who learned this while bouncing, and while we were fighting he grabbed me just like that..and another effect of this technique is it makes the mind stutter for half a second (Hick's law, perhaps?) if your not used to it. It's such a dominating feeling cause you were advancing, now suddenly this guy's got you by the throat and he's manhandling you. You gota really concentrate or be amped up to block out the pain/choking.
what do you do if you knock them incognitos what do you do next, you do start pushing on they're chest ? or just call 911, and tell them he felt down some stairs....just kidding
OMG my stomack hurts from doing that to myself......when you say close the wind pipe is that where adams apple is ? i mean when i've tried on myself i could slightly bend that in....is that what you're talking about ?
I'm not a fighter at all and I don't like fighting but unfortunately there are situations in life where you have time. One of those times I used the C-grip and it was very affective. Managed to restrain the guy until security intervened. Unfortunately security jumped on me instead of him lol
second, there is a counter to this move. and the counter is very effective if the move is used for controlling. normal people don't know the counter, so they can be controlled. but, against those who know the counter, this move only gives a false sense of control, and puts you in a very dangerous place (because you just elevated the fight to a life and death situation).
it's a good self defense technique, but again should be used with a great discretion.
i use this move (with different grip), too. but, i think it'd be prudent not to use this technique unless it's a life and death situation. and i don't think this move is good for controlling someone; it's good to hurt someone.
first off, using this kind of move elevates the situation. it's no longer a simple fight; it becomes a life and death fight. so, if someone uses this on me, i'd instantly kill the opponent (and i am a type of person who avoid a fight).
This is a good technique but is very dangerous the throat is a very delicate place to be attacking. Especially for people who are don't have the experience. If you don't train in martial arts and don't know what your doing don't use this technique.
Richard Grannon what is your opinion on the self defence skills shown in the Youtube videos made by Senseininja2 (Chosen Ninja)? In specific, the defence against knife video and and his various takedown videos?
well to anyone who wonts to try this in a fight your gona get hit kneeded in the balls or take a finger to the eye......and you get done for assult unless the guy has a wepon of somesort and you actually need to do this but theyd still hit you with the wepon......your good a teaching BUT wot ive seen you teach in my opinion wouldnt work to well
I am an SIA Lisenced Door Supervisor and what you are teaching in this video is HIGHLY illegal! Encouraging people to grab the neck and bag it on things on the way out! I have reported this video for promoting illegal content!
@BurnThePope1605This is advice not a pop at you...... I just hope you never get a enraged coked up drunk,whos intent on killing you, while you try to get him out of your venue...the new sia open palms..calm down sir will not work and you will end up badly hurt at club casulty..simple as...I to am one of the new sia badged lot..but most of the time it ends up going old skoo.... If your life is in danger you will do anything..end of.
From what I know fucking around with some ones neck is a good way to accidentally kill some one. If you dont want to find your self in prison you will need to be convince a hole lot of people that person was going to kill you.
I would never use this. I have had it attempted on me, and I had plenty of time to break the guy's fingers and wrist, then throw him headfirst into the ground. Not advisable unless you are very powerful in the arms, extremely fast, and up against a much weaker opponent, or fighting for your life, at which point you are already in big trouble, and may want to consider other options...like the balls!
Best thing to do is C Grip their throat as tight as possible and then keep yanking and twisting and look deep in their eyes as the life and last gasps of air come out of them. J/K lol
yes if you fight with a friend just joke him until he gives up :) thats what i do im a wrestler so i use wrestling techniques to take someone down and wrap around him so that he cant move and then you can do whatever you want with him
"C"-grib, huh? Never heard it called that. But, it works.. I personally like to tilt them by slightly curling in my wrist. This also keeps them on thier toes & off balance. Also free's up you other hand.
when your life is on the line in self defence anything goes! you do anything to live! there are no rules! only your life is important! every self defence practician knows that!
guys pulling hair is gay and disrespectful thats what girls do you want to fight like a little gay girl then and be disrespected for fighting like a pussy go ahead :D
Lonnie555666 ok you want me to be more specific its being a pussy if you pull someones hair cause thats what girls do and its cowardly it will give you less respect : /
@rollerbladingdude and where would most people have to defend from an attack?... oh yeah.. the STREET! Does that mean that a 'self defence' situations could turn into a street fight and suddenly everyone involved would adopt these 'respectful' rules...?
Sorry, but unless you can provide a vid of this 'well behaved' street fighting .... I'm calling bullshit.
what would you term a 'real fight' then? Two men squaring up to each other in some kind of 19th century fisticuffs?
"no hits below the belt, no hits to the face"??
In the real world people come at you to beat you unconcious or to kill you, or they come at you with knives. Use any technique possible. People who 'fight fair' are idiots.
I agree jonski, I find once in each eye to be a useful technique to reduce an opponents visibility.conflict profession? I like that term it's new one on me, can I use it if I'm a traffic warden?
I've seen a technique from a Wing Chun video, I don't know it's name. Kind of like a headlock done in a way that wraps the inside of your elbow around their neck (like a RNC) but you face the opposite direction of the recipient so you can drag them backwards (maybe its called a reverse headlock or something). Just wondering if you've tried this and found it to be practical or not. For control and restraint, I mean.
it's not arterial compression - or an attack aimed at causing issues with the heart working... it will only cause pain and reduce the ability to breath.
Which is fatal eventually - but not as instantly (hence in a RNC, you compress the arterial supply to the brain - not try to crush the windpipe)
@svanari interesting - but if they were located exactly... the slightest pressure could cause serious issue... so they couldn't even demo the technique...
Also, points like this are exceedingly difficult to catch in a real pressure situation...
Ask anyone who has tried to go for a pressure point on a non-compliant opponent... that's why most C & R techniques taught to people who are conflict professionals don't tend to rely on them... even pain compliance isn't 100% effective on some nutters
when you say "conflict profession" I can assume you mean L.E., BG or nightclub security
controlling restraining and removing is a different animal to a raw street fight - getting behind someone becomes more realistic and more valid when removing someone - it also looks more professional and less confrontational than a c grip, which as you said in your first post could make them fight even harder
the c grip is better used when you are being properly attacked, from the front
@streetfightsecrets I have been a bouncer for 16 years and I hope that bouncers and doormen who see that video also read your comment because it is dead on. In a properly secured club, most confrontations can be dangerous but are not a matter of life and death. The drunken or high bar patron can cause serious injury to himself fighting you while in the C-Grip Choke, even death. For the most part, it is for a street fight and a bouncer just shouldn't use it. I think you will agree.
@dcraig1865 I agree, doormen shouldnt use it unless pushed... but then if we arent being pushed why touch them much at all? :)
but yes I take your point - Im pushing mysely right now to do my job with AS LITTLE physical contact as possibly, its totally changed my game on the door.
@streetfightsecrets Thanks for the comments. I wanted to show both the good and bad as I trained this security crew, then myself and hopefully professionals from everywhere would add comments (good and bad). A commentary video could say it but I figured showing real life experiences to aspiring bouncers would be better. And I appreciate third party perspective as well, which is why I try to be descriptive as possible.
This guy is dangerous with the advice he puts out. The trachea is collapsible like a cardboard tube. If you crush he, as in the case of the one guy he talks about, you have a high chance of killing the person, unless you know how to do a field tracheotomy. If you're gonna get that close, might as well maneuver for a rear naked and avoid a possible groin strike counter-attack. Too many of these guys out there dispensing dangerous advice!!!
@streetfightsecrets between your throat being crush and scrabbling for someones balls in baggy jeans I reckon the guy who is causing unconsciousness will beat the guy causing pain... thats if you can get a good grab through the jeans... kick in the balls yes, grab the balls... mmmmm, not convinced
@riveraluciano idk he got u there i shoot myself in the leg if u told me to .........only ofc if u had a nice grip on my balls and like was really treating them bad HAHA thats fuckin sick though
so this guy came up to me an said "I'm gonna give you a C grip choke"....as he got nearer I pulled a gun......now you tell me what the best from of self defense is...well?........bang! your dead
Shenstone esquive le premier bloc (amature) ! utilisant beaucoup de son aliases pour avoir le dernier mot. Je dois dire, si vous manquez votre premier bloc que je serais très soucié de votre compétence générale. ...very s'est inquiété. ...hahaha au revoir
I prefer to use my thumb on the throat then grip the vertical muscle a bit further round the neck and push everything to one side with the thumb this I find anchors the gripping fingers better and causes more pain but you have to be careful cos if you drive your thumb to hard it can puncture the throat and this can be very dangerous !
ah that sucks. here in america, everybody absolutely loves this choke. the cops give you high fives if you use this choke, and they have a c grip award. its like the nobel peace price... but you can actually brag about getting the c grip award
I wouldnt advise anyone to do that...if you stimulate the vagus nerve (in the carotid sheath)and they are pumped with adrenalin (having a fight or flight response) you could cause Reflex Cardiac Arrest = instant death. That's why UK cops aren't allowed to do this.
well if you grab me by the throat im gonna knee u in the nuts, then knee you in the face when you bend over, a fights a fight everything goes bitin scratch, brass knucks if your gonna whupp some ass whup some ass
i agree wit hall that accept the biting and BRASS KNUCKLES if you need to use a weapon to win you cant fight, now if you get jumped then yeah use a weapon n bite but otherwise no
yah, i know i can fight from boxing but if theres someone bigger than me commin to kick my ass im gonna hit em with what ever i got, this kid in 8th grade got me in a bare hugg and i tried to knee him but i couldnt so i bit his fat ass and when he let go i knocked his ass flat
i know, they hurt like a bitch,if i got a chance to use one i'll use it but i sure dont like it used on me, me and sum buddys get together and UFC fight its really fun lol
i won a long fight in high schoool with that technique.... when you shut the windpipe they look like their gonna die its an extreeem technique. you have to be ready for death in your hands but sometimes thats what you want
hey, im just wondering does anyone have a video that shows the specific placement of the fingers? cause im not to shere where... i tried it to my self & i got alittle woozy but theres no way of noing if i did it right... & i dont want to hurt myself, or anyone else.... or possible grab the wrong spot of the throat & get my teeth knocked out lol,
hi the placement of these fingers would be near top of throat if you feel yours, there are 2 larger rings, in general you would use the grip between the 2 rings but you almsot need to push in behind them as you squeeze..here or above the rings is ok also..
some one was calling me name before so i tryed the c grip and well i think i was choke him he had red marks on his neck everyone was afraid of me and he even pulled a seat satyed away from me and then when he came back to lunch he pull a seat for me ^^
Yep, this is the technique of choice a bar doorman will use after he takes you to the ground. I wonder what happens if you fight back and mistakenly he applies to much pressure on the throat trying to subdue you. Are you sure if you close your hand you will not cause very serious injury to the larynx possibly.
the c grip is for beat down on people that dont know shit. to get out of a c grip u just have to tighten the musles around the neck then turn your chin to the right or left shoulder blade then when hes brain storming on how the fuck u got out of that SO CALLED C GRIP lol just crash the elbow two his face if you do all of it in a full motion your have his lights out in secounds just rember to be ready to fuckin do something after you've got out before he figures out his next jackie chan move
I tried C grip few days ago... this guy came up to me and started picking a fight i tried to stop him by saying some things blah blah but it didnt work.. he tried to hit me and then i choked him and he almost threw up... he was so scared that he ran away immediately .
a defense to this....his left hand under your right hand ...circle parry,...... at the same time his right hand under your left hand and block or parry ...the circle parry from his left hand turns into upper cut to your chin........I know there are counters to a persons counter also...lol just an idea
I guess it would be effective for a very quick stun but there is no way you could choke me like that because I'll either break your shoulder or slam you very hard
if u didnt know, it wouldnt be impossible for you to do that, granted, BUT crushing the windpipe like how hes holding is about the same as crushing an empty beer can, with adrenaline and the NEED to do so, even a child could do that, if i had a reason to crush the windpipe, even a good punch or a cracked ribs will still not stop it, adrenaline and shear anger will overcome and the windpide wouild be ruined. HOWEVER a strong and well placed punch would stop the C-gripper.
but even so, your video says it too, it may well close the windpipe, causing panic and alot of pain.
but yer, its not something i would rely on all the time. your videos are very good. And i still believe that squeezing hard (for a prolonged period of time(10 seconds +) is DEFINATELY going to cause alot of damage. BUT depends on how they respon, training they have ect.
i am gonna fite u rite nao. i am really big for a 8 year old (pituitary gland misfire) and my grip fucking lays waste to the trembles of insincere men... stronger, faster, better fighters have all come and gone...
What makes you believe you can succeed where others have failed?
I'll be the first to admit that when I first started learning combatives in the U.S.Army I've resorted to the C-grip a few times when someone more experienced was trying to choke me; which usually resulted in me waking up dazed and confused. Visualize this technique - someone puts the c-grip on you, you in response swim your hand / arm under the choking hand/arm (left vs right ad vice versa) and upward as if you were punching the ceiling. you then bring your elbow down trapping the choking hand
then you grab your own fist step to the side and while keeping the attackers arm trapped you torque his elbow toward the ceilng. I don't know if I described it well enough maybe I'll post a video but this technique will guarantee that you wouldn't dare try a standing c grip on me because I will break your shoulder, Jiu Jitsu 101 kid
when im doin this i always try to imagine closing my fingers. never had it on someone who was out of it. it usually slows em down quite fast. alot of people get scared and panic when they start to get choked fast. its only because we train this that we know and expect it. others who dont panic.
itll work well, if your doing it on somene who doesn't know martial arts. Theres plenty of moves that you wont want to be in that position for. for example muay thaist's would grab the hand and use the other arm to press up over the joint, which can break your elbow.
This grip is not meant to play around with!!The times I used it it was because it was my ass or theirs!! Even if you are train a martial artist once the grip is close, that is it! Stop moving or the trachea will be cracked!!The trick is to not get caught!! Yes I have seen even bouncers get caught on this move!! I know the anatomy of the neck very very well and I know where to press and not to press. How to cause and sudden drop of blood pressure by causing a vagal reflex or just crack it!!
oh sure if you get it good, youll injure them greatly or worse, but if you don't get it good and someone pulls something like a elbow break on you, thats the end of that. I personally wouldn't use it on experienced martial artists, just because so many moves start with a choke. But yah like many other moves, its not something you want to get caught by.
a lot of ju jitsu moves in here added to what hes showing it does work, i was cop for 30 years and oh yeah dirty tricks and ju jitsu forms work Good post
anybody doubting techniques should have experience in this. respect to the man for posting this video for helping ordinary people not to get their face's kicked in the people who say i would just punch u in the side of the nose or anything like that have no idea how they would react when the time comes to it its a flight or fight situation and il bet my money that you would run. anyway you cant punch what you cant see so if this guy wanted to you would hit nothing but the floor show some respect
If he use to be a doorman/bouncer in Liverpool and I have no reason to doubt him. Hes probably had more fights with more people than many people commenting on this video have had hot dinners. If hes shows you something you can bet your ass it works.
I wan to knock someone tat is bigger and stronger than me...Hw?
LazerOnGame32 1 year ago
you can knock someone out with that move you asshole, if you put pressure on the carotid artery you can cut off the blood flow to the brain and could cause someone to have a cardiac arest. I hope people who watch your video, don't use this move as they might kill someone. fucking prick
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
@TheMightyEuan look, Im really not interested in seeing photos of your mum in the bath, thankyou
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets thanks for replying back, everyone can see my comment now, i win :)
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
@TheMightyEuan you sir have make win all of teh internets! yaaaaay!!!
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets I win as have been given the chance to show everyone how reckless and dangerous this is targeting an area where there are many vessels and nerves as a restrain technique. how stupid are you! did you ever wonder why that guy you knocked out collapsed you fucking bully. Use a different restrain method.
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
@TheMightyEuan you are so right YOU DO INDEED WIN... win yes win you have WON
the fucking guy was actually a wannabe gangster indtimidating a young fucking couple, I told him twice to fucking leave them alone and I even put the word "fucking" in the fucking sentence when I fucking told him just for fucking effect... I turned my back and 2 minutes later he was at it a-fucking-gain so I think actually he was the bully
but it doesnt change the fact you are the win, because you have won - YAY!
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@TheMightyEuan what do you think you will do now with your winnings mighty Euan? will you give a portion of your win to charities and good causes?
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets Happy new year!
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
@TheMightyEuan I like big butts and I CAN NOT LIE !!! :)
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets your name is "street fight secrets" - but I ask you sir have you ever actually been in a fight with a street? I highly doubt this - laughable, foolish... nonsense you are the bully make all of bad teachings of wrestle with mans.
I am teh ninja master me not you fighter of streets, go pick on a road your own size
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
bitch ass dirty motherfuckers
use ur fuckin fist like a man
xMicahs 1 year ago
@xMicahs lol wow someones a punk.
remmy100 1 year ago
@remmy100 i rather be a punk then a bitch ass nigga like these guys
xMicahs 1 year ago
train me!!!!!!!! :-(
danwxm1986 1 year ago
99% of students search videos in youtube to win school fights.
576sheba 1 year ago
isnt there like a shit grip or something?
nickotretoen 1 year ago
@nickotretoen more like a shit lip
zed13281 1 year ago
lol dont forget to head but to knock him out :P but i wouldnt do this it could kill someone i know all types of fighting n this isnt something good to do :/
Nihlus25 1 year ago
this is a horrible technique.. if your trying to control the person do it with positioning and leverage.. and first off use common sense and your mouth piece to talk to em.. but in a c grip their gonna freak out on you or pass out.. if somebodys really trying to fight and in that mode.. while you have a c grip and lets say they flail around.. you could seriously injure the person.. this really isnt practical for a doorman.. in life and death.. yes.. rip the shit out.. but as a doorman.. hell na
jesman1985 1 year ago
I dont wana play around with the neck.
Kill the guy. and get charged! :S
m33lad 1 year ago 2
hi ive just passed my training, then been reading up on the criminal checks and was wondering ive had three fixed penalty fines in the last 2 years for drunk and disoredely, will this stop me from being allowed a licence?
mozzmarket 1 year ago
your videos are great. never stop
mastersusaf 1 year ago
check out
DJDanKnight 1 year ago
Great, sensible approach to it. LOL, I train with a guy who learned this while bouncing, and while we were fighting he grabbed me just like that..and another effect of this technique is it makes the mind stutter for half a second (Hick's law, perhaps?) if your not used to it. It's such a dominating feeling cause you were advancing, now suddenly this guy's got you by the throat and he's manhandling you. You gota really concentrate or be amped up to block out the pain/choking.
demboys18 1 year ago
what do you do if you knock them incognitos what do you do next, you do start pushing on they're chest ? or just call 911, and tell them he felt down some stairs....just kidding
OMG my stomack hurts from doing that to myself......when you say close the wind pipe is that where adams apple is ? i mean when i've tried on myself i could slightly bend that in....is that what you're talking about ?
thecomputerist 1 year ago
I'm not a fighter at all and I don't like fighting but unfortunately there are situations in life where you have time. One of those times I used the C-grip and it was very affective. Managed to restrain the guy until security intervened. Unfortunately security jumped on me instead of him lol
NakedJKid 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets (cont'd)
second, there is a counter to this move. and the counter is very effective if the move is used for controlling. normal people don't know the counter, so they can be controlled. but, against those who know the counter, this move only gives a false sense of control, and puts you in a very dangerous place (because you just elevated the fight to a life and death situation).
it's a good self defense technique, but again should be used with a great discretion.
shadow01f 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets
i use this move (with different grip), too. but, i think it'd be prudent not to use this technique unless it's a life and death situation. and i don't think this move is good for controlling someone; it's good to hurt someone.
first off, using this kind of move elevates the situation. it's no longer a simple fight; it becomes a life and death fight. so, if someone uses this on me, i'd instantly kill the opponent (and i am a type of person who avoid a fight).
(cont'd)
shadow01f 1 year ago
This is a good technique but is very dangerous the throat is a very delicate place to be attacking. Especially for people who are don't have the experience. If you don't train in martial arts and don't know what your doing don't use this technique.
NewWarOrder 1 year ago
when u said it cuts of the windpipe will they still be able to breath while their on the ground
BmXdude286 1 year ago
Fair dos but you could be doing some serious jail time if that technique went a bit far...
shllaber 1 year ago
tnx
slash13ize 1 year ago
I Had This Done To Me It Fucking Hurt Like Fuck But It Just Made Me Feel Bit Dizzy For A Short While Then I Done The Ear Pop And Dropped Him :)
Cheer's For The Fighting Technic's Helpped Alot In That Fight :) :L
Jameo371 1 year ago
could he die, if u done that hard...
DoubleD2kaii10 1 year ago
thanks
MickAussieGuy 1 year ago
all he has to do is push away from you or start hitting you lol
ohitsubob 1 year ago
not even good
tbnice1966 1 year ago
I want to hurt the kid not kill him.
HellzRhiino 1 year ago
been in a lot of fightts its not so easy as it loks u need skils to preform KO combo in reality
luiswega 1 year ago
Richard Grannon what is your opinion on the self defence skills shown in the Youtube videos made by Senseininja2 (Chosen Ninja)? In specific, the defence against knife video and and his various takedown videos?
macdaddylives 1 year ago
thats fucked up man i dont care how professional you are dont do that shit you'll kill someone
llK1NGp1Nll 1 year ago
well to anyone who wonts to try this in a fight your gona get hit kneeded in the balls or take a finger to the eye......and you get done for assult unless the guy has a wepon of somesort and you actually need to do this but theyd still hit you with the wepon......your good a teaching BUT wot ive seen you teach in my opinion wouldnt work to well
sunnylikesun77 1 year ago
I am an SIA Lisenced Door Supervisor and what you are teaching in this video is HIGHLY illegal! Encouraging people to grab the neck and bag it on things on the way out! I have reported this video for promoting illegal content!
BurnThePope1605 1 year ago
@BurnThePope1605This is advice not a pop at you...... I just hope you never get a enraged coked up drunk,whos intent on killing you, while you try to get him out of your venue...the new sia open palms..calm down sir will not work and you will end up badly hurt at club casulty..simple as...I to am one of the new sia badged lot..but most of the time it ends up going old skoo.... If your life is in danger you will do anything..end of.
countrywideboy 1 year ago
I am an SIA Licensed Door Supervisor and what you are teaching here is HIGHLY Illegal!!!!
BurnThePope1605 1 year ago
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countrywideboy 1 year ago
holy shit .. it won't bust the wind pipe doing that? Are our wind pipes so flexible that it doesn't break .. just pops back into place after release?
lykopis 1 year ago
isnt that the grip sam fisher uses for interogations
uberawnsom 1 year ago
good tactic-oldsgtmajusmc
oldsgtmajusmc 1 year ago
From what I know fucking around with some ones neck is a good way to accidentally kill some one. If you dont want to find your self in prison you will need to be convince a hole lot of people that person was going to kill you.
samten10a 1 year ago
street fight secrets you are an amazing teacher m8
tyler872 1 year ago
I would never use this. I have had it attempted on me, and I had plenty of time to break the guy's fingers and wrist, then throw him headfirst into the ground. Not advisable unless you are very powerful in the arms, extremely fast, and up against a much weaker opponent, or fighting for your life, at which point you are already in big trouble, and may want to consider other options...like the balls!
samuski36 1 year ago
i wanna know if this can kill you???
kalahor 1 year ago 2
Best thing to do is C Grip their throat as tight as possible and then keep yanking and twisting and look deep in their eyes as the life and last gasps of air come out of them. J/K lol
Asmodai2011 1 year ago 25
Finger prints and DNA are left and you get caught, best thing to do is walk away.
Asmodai2011 1 year ago
i just did the C grip on myself and now everytime i swallow my throte clicks :S
zachleatham2010 1 year ago 12
retard
stevensteven4321 1 year ago
@zachleatham2010 It'll go away, after I've had some bjj chokes on me I feel just the same :P
TKcmcbTD 1 year ago
one question. if u were in a street fight with some one u knew or in some cases u dont, can this kill them?
darkslide541 1 year ago
yes if you fight with a friend just joke him until he gives up :) thats what i do im a wrestler so i use wrestling techniques to take someone down and wrap around him so that he cant move and then you can do whatever you want with him
Fr3aKBG 1 year ago
Darkslide541
No blood or oxygen flow to the head? If its held up for some time, absolutely.
hgrfi 1 year ago
"C"-grib, huh? Never heard it called that. But, it works.. I personally like to tilt them by slightly curling in my wrist. This also keeps them on thier toes & off balance. Also free's up you other hand.
colecash415 1 year ago
when your life is on the line in self defence anything goes! you do anything to live! there are no rules! only your life is important! every self defence practician knows that!
laurinklemment 1 year ago
guys pulling hair is gay and disrespectful thats what girls do you want to fight like a little gay girl then and be disrespected for fighting like a pussy go ahead :D
rollerbladingdude 2 years ago
dude PULLING HAIR thats gay ... wow
rollerbladingdude 2 years ago
@rollerbladingdude there arent rules to fighting. how is it gay?
Lonnie555666 2 years ago 3
Lonnie555666 ok you want me to be more specific its being a pussy if you pull someones hair cause thats what girls do and its cowardly it will give you less respect : /
rollerbladingdude 2 years ago
when it comes to defending yourself from bodily harm anything goes.
lufah234 2 years ago 4
well im talking about street fighting not defence :B
rollerbladingdude 2 years ago 2
If it's an agreed fight for sport then I agree
lufah234 2 years ago
@rollerbladingdude and where would most people have to defend from an attack?... oh yeah.. the STREET! Does that mean that a 'self defence' situations could turn into a street fight and suddenly everyone involved would adopt these 'respectful' rules...?
Sorry, but unless you can provide a vid of this 'well behaved' street fighting .... I'm calling bullshit.
scopeophile 1 year ago
actually its a great dirty fighting technique, and one that I personally probably in 1/3 of fights I get into. Very effective
TheEarlOfDublin 2 years ago
@rollerbladingdude - I'd say not. I have long hair and if someone grabbed that, fair play, its my disadvantage. IMO, anything goes in a fight.
grantosjones 2 years ago
If that shit happens, it's not a real fight.
GHOSTnst 1 year ago
@GHOSTnst
what would you term a 'real fight' then? Two men squaring up to each other in some kind of 19th century fisticuffs?
"no hits below the belt, no hits to the face"??
In the real world people come at you to beat you unconcious or to kill you, or they come at you with knives. Use any technique possible. People who 'fight fair' are idiots.
grantosjones 1 year ago
kick the guy in the nuts.
zambot3 2 years ago
I agree jonski, I find once in each eye to be a useful technique to reduce an opponents visibility.conflict profession? I like that term it's new one on me, can I use it if I'm a traffic warden?
wordy81 2 years ago
just stab them in the face that normally puts the fight to an end 4 me :) stab stab
jonski007 2 years ago
Stomp um in the throat hard enough with your hand in like a knife. You'll break his throat and he'll bleed internally.
XDude666999 2 years ago
Rich, (good name)
I've seen a technique from a Wing Chun video, I don't know it's name. Kind of like a headlock done in a way that wraps the inside of your elbow around their neck (like a RNC) but you face the opposite direction of the recipient so you can drag them backwards (maybe its called a reverse headlock or something). Just wondering if you've tried this and found it to be practical or not. For control and restraint, I mean.
It's
watch?v=uidcynaAgOg
at 4:37
Love your videos.
RichhhR 2 years ago
if somone does c-choke on you or pulls your hair just kick them as hard as you can
5swords3 2 years ago
Ur mom gave my dick the c-grip this morning.
strongman17 2 years ago
THAT IS DEADLY TECHNIQUE
WHY you are teaching everyone in youtube to stop peoples hearts? goddamit your stupid!
svanari 2 years ago
@svanari
it's not arterial compression - or an attack aimed at causing issues with the heart working... it will only cause pain and reduce the ability to breath.
Which is fatal eventually - but not as instantly (hence in a RNC, you compress the arterial supply to the brain - not try to crush the windpipe)
scopeophile 2 years ago
I was talking about pulse conditors which are located exactly where this guy is pressing.
Messing with them will make your heart stop.
svanari 2 years ago
@svanari interesting - but if they were located exactly... the slightest pressure could cause serious issue... so they couldn't even demo the technique...
Also, points like this are exceedingly difficult to catch in a real pressure situation...
Ask anyone who has tried to go for a pressure point on a non-compliant opponent... that's why most C & R techniques taught to people who are conflict professionals don't tend to rely on them... even pain compliance isn't 100% effective on some nutters
scopeophile 2 years ago
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muaythaimark 2 years ago
Hiya Mark
thanks for the question, can I firstly just ask:
when you say
"but I've found it's best to always get behind a person as quickly as possible. "
that kind of implies you've been in a few fights and used that strategy a few times, am I right in assuming that?
I do coach getting behind people to move them as a control and restraint drill - its not easy if they are fully resisting
"using them as a shield" is a nice idea but I've found just doesnt work in reality
streetfightsecrets 2 years ago
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muaythaimark 2 years ago
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muaythaimark 2 years ago
when you say "conflict profession" I can assume you mean L.E., BG or nightclub security
controlling restraining and removing is a different animal to a raw street fight - getting behind someone becomes more realistic and more valid when removing someone - it also looks more professional and less confrontational than a c grip, which as you said in your first post could make them fight even harder
the c grip is better used when you are being properly attacked, from the front
streetfightsecrets 2 years ago
@streetfightsecrets I have been a bouncer for 16 years and I hope that bouncers and doormen who see that video also read your comment because it is dead on. In a properly secured club, most confrontations can be dangerous but are not a matter of life and death. The drunken or high bar patron can cause serious injury to himself fighting you while in the C-Grip Choke, even death. For the most part, it is for a street fight and a bouncer just shouldn't use it. I think you will agree.
dcraig1865 1 year ago 2
@dcraig1865 I agree, doormen shouldnt use it unless pushed... but then if we arent being pushed why touch them much at all? :)
but yes I take your point - Im pushing mysely right now to do my job with AS LITTLE physical contact as possibly, its totally changed my game on the door.
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets Thanks for the comments. I wanted to show both the good and bad as I trained this security crew, then myself and hopefully professionals from everywhere would add comments (good and bad). A commentary video could say it but I figured showing real life experiences to aspiring bouncers would be better. And I appreciate third party perspective as well, which is why I try to be descriptive as possible.
dcraig1865 1 year ago
Your a bit obsessed with violence. Typical skin-head twat.
spherlo 2 years ago
This guy is dangerous with the advice he puts out. The trachea is collapsible like a cardboard tube. If you crush he, as in the case of the one guy he talks about, you have a high chance of killing the person, unless you know how to do a field tracheotomy. If you're gonna get that close, might as well maneuver for a rear naked and avoid a possible groin strike counter-attack. Too many of these guys out there dispensing dangerous advice!!!
chokeu2death 2 years ago
WRONG!!!! once you grab 'em by the balls, their heart and brains will follow :P
riveraluciano 2 years ago 6
in your imagination they do kid
streetfightsecrets 2 years ago 16
@streetfightsecrets u reckon they don't sometimes? that's the first thing I'd do .
frenchguy09 1 year ago
@frenchguy09 are you talking about the "grabbing the balls" thing? I can't tell which comment your responding to. Thanks
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@frenchguy09 yeah i was talking about kicking the balls .
frenchguy09 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets between your throat being crush and scrabbling for someones balls in baggy jeans I reckon the guy who is causing unconsciousness will beat the guy causing pain... thats if you can get a good grab through the jeans... kick in the balls yes, grab the balls... mmmmm, not convinced
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago
@riveraluciano so wrong.....if they know what they're doing they just hit you harder.
getfreeh2o 1 year ago
@riveraluciano Hey if you wanna go around grabbing guys balls be my guest.. just dont be surprised when you get knocked out as a result
NotARandomName 1 year ago
@riveraluciano idk he got u there i shoot myself in the leg if u told me to .........only ofc if u had a nice grip on my balls and like was really treating them bad HAHA thats fuckin sick though
funkpwr 1 year ago
so this guy came up to me an said "I'm gonna give you a C grip choke"....as he got nearer I pulled a gun......now you tell me what the best from of self defense is...well?........bang! your dead
shenstone 2 years ago
obviously if you had a gun there's nothin he could do ya idiot
redrizzla1989 2 years ago 2
if its that obvious why reply........idiot
shenstone 2 years ago
wow! an idiocy spiral! sweet
blocked and Blllllocked!
ta ra!
streetfightsecrets 2 years ago
Shenstone esquive le premier bloc (amature) ! utilisant beaucoup de son aliases pour avoir le dernier mot. Je dois dire, si vous manquez votre premier bloc que je serais très soucié de votre compétence générale. ...very s'est inquiété. ...hahaha au revoir
p.s. god you are dumb
AnotheFamousItalian 2 years ago
I thought I was blocked? hehehe
AnotheFamousItalian 2 years ago
im not saying that this isnt an effective choke hold but to anyone who knows decent pressure points that guy is a completely open target
Seroth62 2 years ago
@VikingAlex88,
tell that to the immigrants, I'm sure they will respect Norway's laws and stop looting & burning.
bhibatsu 2 years ago
people will react with flying armbars
SPITFIREBURN 2 years ago
I prefer to use my thumb on the throat then grip the vertical muscle a bit further round the neck and push everything to one side with the thumb this I find anchors the gripping fingers better and causes more pain but you have to be careful cos if you drive your thumb to hard it can puncture the throat and this can be very dangerous !
DementedDegsy 2 years ago
bahhh, nice choke, but its not allowed in Norway =(
VikingAlex88 2 years ago
ah that sucks. here in america, everybody absolutely loves this choke. the cops give you high fives if you use this choke, and they have a c grip award. its like the nobel peace price... but you can actually brag about getting the c grip award
supimbob12 2 years ago 3
I wouldnt advise anyone to do that...if you stimulate the vagus nerve (in the carotid sheath)and they are pumped with adrenalin (having a fight or flight response) you could cause Reflex Cardiac Arrest = instant death. That's why UK cops aren't allowed to do this.
karyn27 2 years ago 18
@karyn27 Then they shouldn't fuck with you in the first place
Ascendancy1992 1 year ago
i tried it on myself a minute ago, it really hurts !!!
rishie2002 2 years ago 4
haha!
redrizzla1989 2 years ago
oi I pucked him op but he fell unconss
ItJustGrowsLikeThat 2 years ago
well if you grab me by the throat im gonna knee u in the nuts, then knee you in the face when you bend over, a fights a fight everything goes bitin scratch, brass knucks if your gonna whupp some ass whup some ass
mrbobgnarly 2 years ago 3
i agree wit hall that accept the biting and BRASS KNUCKLES if you need to use a weapon to win you cant fight, now if you get jumped then yeah use a weapon n bite but otherwise no
IWKILLALL 2 years ago
yah, i know i can fight from boxing but if theres someone bigger than me commin to kick my ass im gonna hit em with what ever i got, this kid in 8th grade got me in a bare hugg and i tried to knee him but i couldnt so i bit his fat ass and when he let go i knocked his ass flat
mrbobgnarly 2 years ago 2
alright i do agree with that then haha. i hate choke holds --_--
IWKILLALL 2 years ago
i know, they hurt like a bitch,if i got a chance to use one i'll use it but i sure dont like it used on me, me and sum buddys get together and UFC fight its really fun lol
mrbobgnarly 2 years ago
yeah im training with team quest to get into the UFC so choke holds are going to be all to common --_-- haha
IWKILLALL 2 years ago
your just setting yourself up for a broken arm when you do this on someone
kevo44m 2 years ago
i won a long fight in high schoool with that technique.... when you shut the windpipe they look like their gonna die its an extreeem technique. you have to be ready for death in your hands but sometimes thats what you want
extreeeeeemist 2 years ago
I wouldnt try this on a standing opponent.
if you squeeze hard like he sais,
and the guy trips, or makes a big movement,
you can easily bruise his windpipe, and he will have choked on his swolen throat by the time the ambulance gets there.
I think it's better for a controlled situation, like clinch/groundfight.
jimmymoltesanti 2 years ago 2
hey, im just wondering does anyone have a video that shows the specific placement of the fingers? cause im not to shere where... i tried it to my self & i got alittle woozy but theres no way of noing if i did it right... & i dont want to hurt myself, or anyone else.... or possible grab the wrong spot of the throat & get my teeth knocked out lol,
xxGodOfWarxx2000 2 years ago
hi the placement of these fingers would be near top of throat if you feel yours, there are 2 larger rings, in general you would use the grip between the 2 rings but you almsot need to push in behind them as you squeeze..here or above the rings is ok also..
darrenwtis 2 years ago
any spot on the pipe is good - but aim for the adam's apple
JonathanBloggs 2 years ago
some one was calling me name before so i tryed the c grip and well i think i was choke him he had red marks on his neck everyone was afraid of me and he even pulled a seat satyed away from me and then when he came back to lunch he pull a seat for me ^^
i1ovekitties 2 years ago
Dude, wer u like some kind of ninja???
EmoShopBoyz 2 years ago 3
grap the hair and karate chop his adams apple!! would he die ?
rishie2002 2 years ago 2
Yep, this is the technique of choice a bar doorman will use after he takes you to the ground. I wonder what happens if you fight back and mistakenly he applies to much pressure on the throat trying to subdue you. Are you sure if you close your hand you will not cause very serious injury to the larynx possibly.
zamfra 2 years ago
this is all I do when someone is trying to hurt me and it works
SolidSnakeRules 2 years ago
the c grip is for beat down on people that dont know shit. to get out of a c grip u just have to tighten the musles around the neck then turn your chin to the right or left shoulder blade then when hes brain storming on how the fuck u got out of that SO CALLED C GRIP lol just crash the elbow two his face if you do all of it in a full motion your have his lights out in secounds just rember to be ready to fuckin do something after you've got out before he figures out his next jackie chan move
jimbob202019 2 years ago 2
I tried C grip few days ago... this guy came up to me and started picking a fight i tried to stop him by saying some things blah blah but it didnt work.. he tried to hit me and then i choked him and he almost threw up... he was so scared that he ran away immediately .
xxxxNikolaxxxx 2 years ago 3
I would never think of simply grabbing someone by the throat in a fight. But it's definitely effective for controlling the situation
RainMan34 2 years ago 2
i would be scared to that to someone
tokishreds 2 years ago
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a defense to this....his left hand under your right hand ...circle parry,...... at the same time his right hand under your left hand and block or parry ...the circle parry from his left hand turns into upper cut to your chin........I know there are counters to a persons counter also...lol just an idea
232323C 2 years ago
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232323C 2 years ago
I've seen this on Discovery before. Break it and he won't be able to breathe so easily.
TerrorWatcher 2 years ago
You guys wanna know how to shut this down. Open your mouth.... Thats it... =D
bananabread119 2 years ago
idk much about this i never use it. i sure as shit wuldnt do it on sombody who knows what theyre doing tho.
bjjfighter92 2 years ago
I guess it would be effective for a very quick stun but there is no way you could choke me like that because I'll either break your shoulder or slam you very hard
ANT6184 2 years ago
if u didnt know, it wouldnt be impossible for you to do that, granted, BUT crushing the windpipe like how hes holding is about the same as crushing an empty beer can, with adrenaline and the NEED to do so, even a child could do that, if i had a reason to crush the windpipe, even a good punch or a cracked ribs will still not stop it, adrenaline and shear anger will overcome and the windpide wouild be ruined. HOWEVER a strong and well placed punch would stop the C-gripper.
peace
kratoslevit 2 years ago
the empty beer can rises again! haha!
utube search " human larynx weak as an empty beer can" mate
streetfightsecrets 2 years ago
well, that put a sock in my mouth.
but even so, your video says it too, it may well close the windpipe, causing panic and alot of pain.
but yer, its not something i would rely on all the time. your videos are very good. And i still believe that squeezing hard (for a prolonged period of time(10 seconds +) is DEFINATELY going to cause alot of damage. BUT depends on how they respon, training they have ect.
peace
kratoslevit 2 years ago
Krato, your gay as fuck.
Dont say gay shit and act like you can fight.
Pussy ass 13 year old on youtube.
Curatalo506 2 years ago
1) I never believed i could fight, never mentioned it, just mentioned something that was told to me and was wrong.
2) I accepted that i was wrong and didnt say anything incriminating or harmful or nor was I "biggin myself up"
3) I'm definately not 13
Peace
kratoslevit 2 years ago 5
i am gonna fite u rite nao. i am really big for a 8 year old (pituitary gland misfire) and my grip fucking lays waste to the trembles of insincere men... stronger, faster, better fighters have all come and gone...
What makes you believe you can succeed where others have failed?
-INTERNET TUFF GUY
RainMan34 2 years ago
I'll be the first to admit that when I first started learning combatives in the U.S.Army I've resorted to the C-grip a few times when someone more experienced was trying to choke me; which usually resulted in me waking up dazed and confused. Visualize this technique - someone puts the c-grip on you, you in response swim your hand / arm under the choking hand/arm (left vs right ad vice versa) and upward as if you were punching the ceiling. you then bring your elbow down trapping the choking hand
ANT6184 2 years ago
then you grab your own fist step to the side and while keeping the attackers arm trapped you torque his elbow toward the ceilng. I don't know if I described it well enough maybe I'll post a video but this technique will guarantee that you wouldn't dare try a standing c grip on me because I will break your shoulder, Jiu Jitsu 101 kid
ANT6184 2 years ago
did that move on sum gangbanger in the summer
EDVillain 2 years ago
C grip ... wel trie that with multiple apponents, your head will be cracked open...
melchiordani 2 years ago
learn how to spell
pappy3422 2 years ago 2
the real lesson here for most of us is, fake uncontiousness. Then uppercut the bald wanker in the groin
keflar5 2 years ago
The man is on the 'inside', the victims arms are around the person who is C-gripping, so he can't uppercut.
Kawabic 2 years ago
wht if u just choke someone like push ur hand against hish neck it like ur tryin to kill him whouldnt tht work ?
xDontFaintx 2 years ago
when im doin this i always try to imagine closing my fingers. never had it on someone who was out of it. it usually slows em down quite fast. alot of people get scared and panic when they start to get choked fast. its only because we train this that we know and expect it. others who dont panic.
darktim99 3 years ago
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who wants to see me get naked??
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energeticperkyMary27 3 years ago
Tha move works very well!! I have applied it on guys a lot larger than me.All it requires is a nice grip!
silatk 3 years ago
itll work well, if your doing it on somene who doesn't know martial arts. Theres plenty of moves that you wont want to be in that position for. for example muay thaist's would grab the hand and use the other arm to press up over the joint, which can break your elbow.
SamuiHakai 3 years ago
This grip is not meant to play around with!!The times I used it it was because it was my ass or theirs!! Even if you are train a martial artist once the grip is close, that is it! Stop moving or the trachea will be cracked!!The trick is to not get caught!! Yes I have seen even bouncers get caught on this move!! I know the anatomy of the neck very very well and I know where to press and not to press. How to cause and sudden drop of blood pressure by causing a vagal reflex or just crack it!!
silatk 3 years ago
oh sure if you get it good, youll injure them greatly or worse, but if you don't get it good and someone pulls something like a elbow break on you, thats the end of that. I personally wouldn't use it on experienced martial artists, just because so many moves start with a choke. But yah like many other moves, its not something you want to get caught by.
SamuiHakai 3 years ago
a lot of ju jitsu moves in here added to what hes showing it does work, i was cop for 30 years and oh yeah dirty tricks and ju jitsu forms work Good post
joedredd13215 3 years ago
anybody doubting techniques should have experience in this. respect to the man for posting this video for helping ordinary people not to get their face's kicked in the people who say i would just punch u in the side of the nose or anything like that have no idea how they would react when the time comes to it its a flight or fight situation and il bet my money that you would run. anyway you cant punch what you cant see so if this guy wanted to you would hit nothing but the floor show some respect
ashywigan777 3 years ago
If he use to be a doorman/bouncer in Liverpool and I have no reason to doubt him. Hes probably had more fights with more people than many people commenting on this video have had hot dinners. If hes shows you something you can bet your ass it works.
shep1379 3 years ago
thanx for posting
dustywar 3 years ago
when you grap my head i remove a gun and shot you .... then you can make me sleep...savvy?
Braveheartbh 3 years ago 2
yeah thats really good mate
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
ignore that dickhead, awesome video, its great your teaching ordinary people to help not get their heads kicked in, great work mate.