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I agree with you that steve kaufmann should not be calling himself a linguist, and that he may have a complete misunderstanding of the Krashen literature he is always quoting; however, he does speak 12 languages fluently and has worked professionally in several of them including Mandarin, Japanese and French. I think anyone who sees your videos from an objective viewpoint is going to ask "If what he preaches doesn't work how come he speaks a dozen languages?"
@odiernod Nice to read you comprehend that Kaufman is not an expert. Albeit he does propose himself to be a self appointed expert in the field. He speaks 12 languages--but at what level on the FSI/DLI scale? I speak 49 at varying levels--and you are doing post hoc ergro proptr hoc error in your thinking about his methodology. Remember, Kaufman et al have no credentials and cannot buy their way into Academic Journals to be published. There's a reason for that.
@dedboj Since I do not live in the USA and I am not invovled with Educational Design there, I would not know. Worldwide TPR is used in a myriad of languages. ALG is used only in 2. More coming on this entire subject.
I kept on reading about the subject and I can't believe they aren't using TPR or ALG in every school in America, or are they? I wish I could try them out.
@Jate0000 TPR is very fast--however, it takes a skilled teacher (and the class size can't be 30 to 1) ALG is very slow and it's going to be impossible to get past Educational Boards with a "well they will perform at an unknown level at an unknown time--just give it four years" (that's because the number of contact hours is very high and to do that in public school would take a very long time). I will be continuing this talk and giving the dirt on the linguaphiles utter misuderstanding of Krashen
@sprachbegeistert Great. You are exactly the target audience: a man who truly does speak and command several languages: your prosody is very good, you don't have much L 1 interference, you have a large lexicon, etc. I'd recommend that the languagephiles take a look at your videos.
Interesting video. I like hearing different points of view (I have also watched videos of Steve Kaufmann for example and other people). While I consider listening to a foreign language important, I have to say I don't think it is enough to learn a language. Seeing how people interact and putting actions in relation to words is very important in my opinion. After having watched your video I'll look into APR - sounds interesting.
Your friend working with ALG is Antonio Graceffo, right? I have seen his videos about ALG (he was using it with a kid to learn Khmer) and my impression was that indeed it requires a lot of time. I've already read some articles by Dr. James Asher but, are there any books for the general public you can recommend about these methods? great video!
Hey Christophe. I liked this video a lot, but it cuts off a little abruptly. Is there a part 2, or is this it?
Also, what would you suggest for people self-studying? For Vietnamese (another geo-locked language), I'll watch the same TV episodes in Vietnamese several times, paying attention to both for the sounds of the language and the actions of the characters. I also try to have conversations with my Vietnamese friends and if a new word comes up, I have them explain it in Vietnamese.
Do you know of any sources or places I can find out about to learn portuguese using the TPR method?
murdoch1717 3 weeks ago
@murdoch1717 i have heard of some in Brazil. You will have to look about
christopheclugston 3 weeks ago
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christopheclugston 3 weeks ago
Thanks for talking about these methods, never heard of them before.
numerodixed 1 month ago
@numerodixed Yes, it seems most of the YT crowd just talk about sleight changes of the same old read and listen left brain methodology
christopheclugston 1 month ago
I agree with you that steve kaufmann should not be calling himself a linguist, and that he may have a complete misunderstanding of the Krashen literature he is always quoting; however, he does speak 12 languages fluently and has worked professionally in several of them including Mandarin, Japanese and French. I think anyone who sees your videos from an objective viewpoint is going to ask "If what he preaches doesn't work how come he speaks a dozen languages?"
odiernod 3 months ago
@odiernod Nice to read you comprehend that Kaufman is not an expert. Albeit he does propose himself to be a self appointed expert in the field. He speaks 12 languages--but at what level on the FSI/DLI scale? I speak 49 at varying levels--and you are doing post hoc ergro proptr hoc error in your thinking about his methodology. Remember, Kaufman et al have no credentials and cannot buy their way into Academic Journals to be published. There's a reason for that.
christopheclugston 3 months ago
Which languages are taught through TPR(S) these days? Since it is used in the US I suppose it's English and Spanish. Any others?
dedboj 3 months ago
@dedboj Since I do not live in the USA and I am not invovled with Educational Design there, I would not know. Worldwide TPR is used in a myriad of languages. ALG is used only in 2. More coming on this entire subject.
christopheclugston 3 months ago
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christopheclugston 3 months ago
I kept on reading about the subject and I can't believe they aren't using TPR or ALG in every school in America, or are they? I wish I could try them out.
Jate0000 3 months ago
@Jate0000 TPR is very fast--however, it takes a skilled teacher (and the class size can't be 30 to 1) ALG is very slow and it's going to be impossible to get past Educational Boards with a "well they will perform at an unknown level at an unknown time--just give it four years" (that's because the number of contact hours is very high and to do that in public school would take a very long time). I will be continuing this talk and giving the dirt on the linguaphiles utter misuderstanding of Krashen
christopheclugston 3 months ago
Sorry, I meant TPR and not APR in my previous comment. Sorry for the typo.
sprachbegeistert 4 months ago
@sprachbegeistert Great. You are exactly the target audience: a man who truly does speak and command several languages: your prosody is very good, you don't have much L 1 interference, you have a large lexicon, etc. I'd recommend that the languagephiles take a look at your videos.
christopheclugston 4 months ago
Interesting video. I like hearing different points of view (I have also watched videos of Steve Kaufmann for example and other people). While I consider listening to a foreign language important, I have to say I don't think it is enough to learn a language. Seeing how people interact and putting actions in relation to words is very important in my opinion. After having watched your video I'll look into APR - sounds interesting.
sprachbegeistert 4 months ago
Your friend working with ALG is Antonio Graceffo, right? I have seen his videos about ALG (he was using it with a kid to learn Khmer) and my impression was that indeed it requires a lot of time. I've already read some articles by Dr. James Asher but, are there any books for the general public you can recommend about these methods? great video!
Jate0000 4 months ago
@Jate0000 Asher and Garcia have several aimed at the normal person. About Antonio--I am waiting for him to comment.
christopheclugston 4 months ago
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smukles 4 months ago
Hey Christophe. I liked this video a lot, but it cuts off a little abruptly. Is there a part 2, or is this it?
Also, what would you suggest for people self-studying? For Vietnamese (another geo-locked language), I'll watch the same TV episodes in Vietnamese several times, paying attention to both for the sounds of the language and the actions of the characters. I also try to have conversations with my Vietnamese friends and if a new word comes up, I have them explain it in Vietnamese.
smukles 4 months ago
@smukles Yes will get a part 2 --there's a lot to cover
christopheclugston 4 months ago