IF THE ARAB + MUSLIM COUNTRIES WANT TO COURAGE US TO REACH OUR GOAL (DEMOCRACY )THEREFOR SAUDIEN HAS TO PROVE IT NOW & TO GIVE US BACK OUR EX-DECTOTAR BEN ALI
GADHAFI PLS DO SHUT UR MOUTH & MIND UR OWN BUSINESS
OTHERS ARAB STATE SHOULDN´T BE JEALOUS OF US !
DUBAI PLS WITH ALL RESPECT SEND US BACK BEN ALI (MONSTER) FAMILY & OF COURSE WITH THE MONEY
IF THE ISLAM IS A PEACE RELIGIONPEACE PROOVE IT NOW ?
@nourama1 I dont understand why you would'nt condemn such nations in the way that they conduct sharia law in such a inhuman medieval way, it is one of the reasons why people cannot appreciate Islam as a peacfull religion as rarely do we see prominent or any muslims condemn such acts publicly, yet when some tasteless Danish paper prints a silly picture the Islamic world reacts in violent riots. I dont think other religions would act in such a way, such as the catholic child sex scandel,
about what you said about the nations that condust sharia low.. I dont know what you hear or see but I dont think that they are doing something inhuman.
@nourama1 so your saying stoning and beating to death over such things as adultry and petty theifing is not inhuman, how can u call that peacfull. Very strange
you said before that you agree that there are good and bad in all humans.. we do condemn those who reacted in violent way toward the Danish prints.. although I felt a lot of anger and I do not respect what he did becouse the prophet is a holy person to us.. how would you feel if someone insults the person that you love more than yourself??
this is how we feel about the prophet Mohammad.. but even though we dont agree with the violent reaction.
Islam is the last religion on earth. and the prophet Mohammad( peace be upon him) is the last messanger . so ''Whoever wishes, let him believe and whosoever will, let him disbelieve
'' No compulsion in religion These are (Ayat) taken from QURAN
If it doesnt convince you and you dont want to believe in it just give it some respect and dont attack it with stupid wrong explanations that you wish that it would be true.
God forgive me if I made any mistake and may God show all of us the right
@nourama1 " give it some respect and dont attack it with stupid wrong explanations that you wish that it would be true." -> sorry i don't respect pedophilia, beheading, wifebeating, not making friends because a book says so, calling unbelievers Devil worshippers and that i should fight them...nope will never happen. i quoted the koran and hadith in all these instances, you haven't. so who has the "wrong" explanation?
all these things have nothing to do with Islam. you and alot of people like you trying so hard to make Islam look so bad. I reallydont understand why you are carring so many hate to muslims.There are hundreds of persons convert to Islam just becouse they read about the prophet Mohammad.
read how many scientists and from Europe and west countries respect him and say woderfull things about him. how do you explain that?
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine.
@goemon9378 my dear friend even before the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha she was engaged to another man . which means that by that time . before about 1400 years ago it was very NORMAL for women to be married at that age in their society . and it was not unusual or unacceptable
just like a lot of traditions that were acceptable in the past and they are not today. and its different from society to another.
@nourama1 "mohammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha she was engaged to another man" ->
again, mr. logical brain-and-pedophile-apologist...where's your source? from this transaction documented in Sahih Bukhari 7.18 it appears mohammed made initiation
"The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
@nourama1 "before about 1400 years ago it was very NORMAL for women to be married at that age " -> why did Abu Bakr say "but I am your brother?" (when he wasn't)
your argument might make sense...if mohammed weren't a supposedly a "prophet of god" and moral beacon. i'd think this mohammed would leave a better legacy than:
Bukhari, Book 002, Number 572:
Aisha said “ Whenever I found dried semen on the garments of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), I scraped it off with my nails.
The (Aya) that you mentioned ( men are in charge of women) does not mean that they are better than women or in higher level. In Islam men have duties towards women. the man have to work and the money he gains is not for him its for him and his family on the other hand women are not obliged to work in Islam and if they work and gain money their money is for them only they dont have to spend nothing on the house or the family. Man in Islam has more responsibility to serve the woman
about beating women as you noticed at the (Aya) it is the last thing man should do (the last word in the Aya). and it means to beat her with the tip of his clothes. It is totally forbidden in Islam to beat animals harshly so what you think about human beings. any way the prophet Mohammad our exampel never beat a woman in his life and he says ( the goods of you will not beat the women even in the tip of the clothes)
@nourama1 prophet Mohammad was a violent savage, beheading hundredes of people of whom he was not in war with, how could you idolise someone like that .
The prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was a very wise man.. he never did what you are saying .. read about him there are alot of information online and written books.
mabay I cant help you alot in that becouse I am only a muslim who really hurt her to see such attacking comments about Islam, Quran and the prophet Mohammad.. under a video contains alot of respect from muslims to another religion. I tried to answer you as much asI can.I wish from God to show you the right way.
@nourama1 Wise man maybe, peaceful man defiantly NOT read up on the Bani Qurayza beheadings. Religion on the whole is run by evil control freaks, the punishment for apostasy under sharia law is death. All religion is violent and corrupt apart from hinduism, unfortunetly for you in present day Islam is at top of the table. Religion does far more damage than positive and only segregates people. I hope one day my children of no faith will be able to marry your children.
not true Islam is the religion of peace just becouse there are some people using it incorrectly does not mean that this is Islam.
muslims are like all other humans.. there are good people and bad people.
and the bads do not speak in the name of muslims.. and about the prophet Mohammad he was the most peacfull man in the world .. the world will never know a man like him. (peace be upon him)
@nourama1 I fully agree that there are good and bad in all humans. In essence I am sure islam is peacefull religion. Have you ever doubted your religion when looking at a person of other faith who believes as adamantly in it as you but in a different religion with you knowing that he is only believe in mythes. What do you think of nations such as Iran, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia and the way they in force sharia law
@nourama1 interesting how you don't reference ANYTHING from the koran, i think it would be easy since you've been reading the koran since you could read.
"men are in charge of women) does not mean that they are better than women" -> does this make sense to you?? you say you have a logical brain?? how come in 2:282, two women wtinesses equal one male witness?
"it means to beat her with the tip of his clothes" -> where does it say this "tips of his clothes" in the koran?
@goemon9378 I dont reference from Quran becouse its a little hard to me to translate it to english.. I read Quran in arabic. anyway my sources comes from the explanations to Quran which I learned from Shiekhs and Emams who studies these things more deeply than me. which I also suggest to you to get more answers from them. becouse to you too am saying I am only a muslim who hurt her to see so many people attack her religion under a vedio that shows how much Islam respects other religions
@nourama1"its a little hard to me to translate it to english..I read Quran in arabic. anyway my sources comes from the explanations to Quran which I learned from Shiekhs and Emams" -> this is your excuse? everyone uses the hindu-ARABIC numbering system, i reference the numbers and it gives me the verse in English and Arabic. do you not know how to use numbers? anyway, you admit getting information second-hand (why would you need to since you supposedly read the koran yourself?), blah pathetic
I dont have to give you any exuses my brother.. this is my religion and I believe in it with no doubts.. I only tried my best to convice you. If you dont want to believe or respect it then like it says in Quran (''Whoever wishes, let him believe and whosoever will, let him disbelieve
@nourama1 child marriage is also allowed in the koran...if this were the supposed word of a prophet of god why is child marriage allowed in the supposed "word of god"?? didn't god know better that times will change and people will know better and not let his followers be apologists for pedophilia??
65:4 (about divorce)"As for those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you are in doubt then their term shall be for three months, and those too who have NOT MENSTRUATED YET"
@nourama1 " the prophet Mohammad our exampel never beat a woman in his life " -> . if you want to follow mohammed's examples you should enjoy torture and beheading to get a treasure location:
Tabari 8:122/Ishaq:515 The Prophet gave orders to Zubayr concerning Kinanah, saying, “Torture him until you root out and extract what he has.” So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him
its mentioned not to take friends the jews and christians who ATTACK muslims
if you read the history jews and christians lived for hundreds of years under the control of Islam.. and they were all free to worship God the way they want. The prophet Mohammad promised to protect them as long as they live with muslims.
we all agree that we worship one God .. let him judge between us in our differences.
I really respect your knowledge and your readings about Islam.
"its mentioned not to take friends the jews and christians who ATTACK muslims" -> where does it say not to take jews and christians "who attack you" as friends in 5:51?? and how do you explain 4:76 saying
"those who disbelieve fight in behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil"?
it doesn't say anything about "those who ATTACK you." and 3:118?
"Do not take as close friends other than your own people."
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
my fellow christians and jews. isnt it amazing that muhammed a pagan arab by your own words glorfied mary and jesus both whom were jews in his own quran and to his fellow arabs.
jewish people not only disbelieve in Marry and Jesus they also say that holy Marry is not virgin and that she made a sin with a man and thats how she become pregnant. they also tried to kill jesus but God saved him from them.
Islam gives Marry and Jesue a lot of respect and there is a whole (sura) in the Quran named after her (surat maryam) and it is the same Marry mentioned in the Bible. There is only one virgin Marry. the mother of Jesus.
@MrChickybee1 there is only one Quran in the world. and the prophet mohammad was mentioned in the Bible and in all holy books just like all prophets are mentioned in Quran but in the other holy books the name of the profet Mohammad was deleted.
@Vehan80107 unlike what you like to believe (i'm jewish or uninformed hater) i own a koran and have dozens and dozens of pages marked, if you started reading a book and all it said was how bad this god would punish you, how you mustn't make friends with nonbelievers, etc...would you seriously keep reading? no, i'm not an uninformed hater...i do despise pedophilia, wife beating, not making friends because a book says so, calling nonbelievers monkeys and pigs, part of the teachings in islam
@goemon9378 This is not true.. Quran does not teach you these things Islam is religion of peace please learn more about the Quran.. ask people who knows to explain it to you as the way it is if you are interesred and if your not please just dont say wrong things in public about Islam becouse you are making other people believe in those horrible things that you are saying .
@nourama1 "Quran does not teach you these things" -> another muslim who hasn't read the koran or hadiths...if you had read it you would know exactly where verses condoning wife beating, not making friends with non-muslims, calling jews monkeys and pigs are. and which hadiths tell of mohammed's sex with 9yo aisha. i've quoted the "monkeys and pigs" from the koran already. do you want me to quote the others??
@goemon9378 goemon9378 am a muslim.. and ofcourse I read the Quran since I started to learn to read! I dont need you to quote any thing.. I know exacly what you mean. please dont try to explain what you read the way you want. dont try to understand what is written the way you like to understand. you would wish that Quran and Islam really teaches those things you mentioned.. but am sorry to disapoint you..
and by the way I am a muslim not becouse I born to a muslim family.. I am a muslim becouse God gave me a healthy brain and the ability to think logically.. and I do respect you for what you are becouse I have a lot of (non-muslims) friends.
@nourama1 oh ok, what did your logical brain think when you read
Surah 4:76 "Those who believe fight for the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight on behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil. Surely the guile of the Devil is weak"
3:118 "O believers, do not take as close friends other than your own people, they will spare no effort to corrupt you and wish to see you suffer. Hatred has already been manifested in what they utter..."
@nourama1 oh ok, what did your logical brain think when you read
Surah 4:76 "Those who believe fight for the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight on behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil. Surely the guile of the Devil is weak"
3:118 "O believers, do not take as close friends other than your own people, they will spare no effort to corrupt you and wish to see you suffer. Hatred has already been manifested in what they utter..."
@nourama14:34 "Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made some of them excel the others, and because they spend some of their wealth. Hence righteous women are obedient, guarding the unseen which Allah has guarded. And those of them that you fear might rebel, admonish them and abandon them in their beds and BEAT them."
5:51 "O believers, do not take the Jews and Christians as friends...Whoever takes them as friends is surely one of them. Allah indeed not guide the wrongdoers."
@Vehan80107 "'m not a Jew or Christian because their scriptures (which I have actually read) are filled with contradictions." -> and the koran isn't? didn't you know the original koran was written in syriac-aramaic and can have many different interpretations from the current arabic one.
Just because the Luxembourg quran might be the oldest to be discovered, does not mean it is the original... that's like saying the oldest human remains discovered are the remains of the first human...
@Vehan80107 "are filled with contradictions." -> there's also the issue of allat, al-uzzah, and manat. mohammed changed the verse after 53:20 to read what it says now, belittling the daughters of the moon god to what it is now, but it originally read "These are the exalted gharāniq (bird), whose intercession is hoped for.". mohammed wanted to appease the meccans who worshipped them at the time, as documented by Al-Tabari.
@Vehan80107 yes, if you haven't read the torah and talmud, and the bible cover to cover you don't know anything about these religions so why do you think they are false? oh yeah, because it says so in the quran. i bet i've read more quran than most muslims (many of which are illiterate). and many don't even know what's in it and go by what imams tell them.
You do the something in your life, when your boss orders you to do something that you don’t like or you think may be unfair, you try to convince him, but if you failed, you will escalate him,
but what if your company CEO was the one who ordered you, you can’t escalate, but what if he made a policy of “Don’t argue about orders” what will you do? Are you going to break the policy and get fired? That’s not everything, what if that company was the only company in the world? If you got fired you will never get hired by anybody ever after, simply because there are no other companies!
This is the case we are talking about here, God is the one who created the universe and he set the rules, and told you that have the right to ask about him to confirm that he exists and you have the right to ask every question to make sure he is the creator and he has the power etc. and when you receive an order you have the right to confirm that the order you receive is his, but you have no right to argue about the orders!
That’s the God I worship, he is not democratic, simply he didn’t ask you your opinion before he said that theft is forbidden, he didn’t ask you your permission before he created you, he didn’t ask your permission before he made you jobless or before he made you have that silly boss you have! He never takes your permission about anything, he dictates his orders and orders you to accept them because they are his,
They wish that you disbelieve, as they have disbelieved, so that you will all be alike. Do not, then, take any companions from them, until they emigrate in the Way of Allah. Then SHOULD THEY TURN BACK, SEIZE THEM and KILL THEM wherever you find them; and do not take from them any companion or supporter.
so where in the quran does it say apostates shouldn't be killed?
those who fought him are the worst because most of them saw miracles like breaking the moon into two halves and telling secret stories about Christians that they were hiding, so keeping ignoring Mohamed SWA means they are the worst people and deserve death because they know the truth and keep denying it!
Please give me the name of a Muslim killed by Muslims judges because he left Islam, let me tell you what really happens, when 2 Muslims of low education have a dispute about money, one of them kills the other and tries to make people sympathy with him, and he says oh I killed him because he insulted God, that's why you Christians said the rumor that Muslims are killed when they leave Islam, Christians invented many rumors about Islam like stoning a raped woman and very strange things
@BFouli wow, either you don't know tenets of your own faith or you are practicing taqiyya
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also from the Encyclopedia of Islam: a male apostate must be put to death unless he suffers from a mental disorder or converted under duress, for example, due to an imminent danger of being killed. A female apostate must be either executed, according to Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh), or imprisoned
I am not sure if you understand English or not! a crime is not considered a crime in any religion or country except if there is an intention, Prophet Mohamed said that we are not punished in case of unintended error, forgetting based error, or what we forced to do, so in case a woman is raped, she is had no intention of doing something wrong, and she is not punished accordingly, no woman over the history of Islam was punished for being rapped, I dare you give me a single woman name
This comment is not for you, I am debating with many people. Wikipedia is not an Islamic reference because it is edited by non Muslims, we Muslims have fixed references which are Quran and Hadeth saheh books, and according to all Islamic books, Prophet Mohamed made a solh hodaybeya agreement which states that apostating Muslims should be returned back to their original places, so why did prophet Mohamed do that if apostating Muslims should be killed as per your fake reference?
@BFouli Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing. But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
I don't think you really understand English, those hadeth scripts and and verse are mentioning certain people, and gain I REPEAT MY question, if Islamic law is to kill who ever leave Islam, then why did Prophet Mohamed return back those who left Islam in Solh elhodaybeya? Don't waste your time and my time, there is a difference between a general law and a specific law, all your evidences are mentioning specific people, if you don't believe me, then answer my question above about solh
@BFouli " those hadeth scripts and and verse are mentioning certain people" -> you have NO critical thinking skills. the treaty of Hudaibiya was a specific treaty lasting 10 years with quraish people. and NO, it didn't say apostates would be returned to mohammed.
"If any one from the Quraish came to the Muslims and was converted to Islam he was to be returned to the Quraish. On the other hand, if a Muslim sought refuge with the Quraish, he was not to be delivered to the Muslims. "
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Let me send you another evidence that you don't understand English, here is what the bible says: Deuteronomy, Chapter 13, KJV:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
You know nothing about Islamic rules, hodod can never be stopped, not temporarily and definitely not permanently, if killing those who leave Islam is among Hodod, Prophet Mohamed would have never stopped it even for a second, it was time specific and people specific.
Prophet Mohamed say that the worst person is the one who fights a prophet or fought by a prophet, so while those who supported him are the best people,
@BFouli "so while those who supported him are the best people," -> translation: those who support pedophilia of marrying a 6yo and having sex with her when she is 9 are the best people, yeah right.
Look at your girls, they lose virginity at the age of 8, they don't get married but instead they turn into bitches who have sex with a dozen of men before the age of 20, and now you are sad because a woman got married at the age of 9 and had sex with only one man during all her life, I guess you must be happy to live between bitches, while me and my people hate even the word bitch because the person who finds his body cheap so that many people can share it is scorned by my people
but again I repeat he gave you the right to confirm that he exists and confirm that the orders are from him, so he gave you some rights and took some, if you accept I can prove to you that this god exists and I can prove to you that those orders are his, that’s your human right, but if you want to protest to his orders, you can protest against him directly, I have nothing to do with you or your protesting, all I can do is warn you that you will go to hell
my god who I worship is strong and his will is absolute and he can do anything at the time he wants, if this god ordered me to stand on my head instead of my feet, I won't ask him why he gave me such an order, simply because he can send me to hell in less than a second, and he can leave me forever there, and on the other side he can make me happy forever if I obeyed a single order he gives me!
@BFouli your god is fake, not real, there's no proof for it and it only relies on a bunch of crazy people to do its will and your prophet is a pedophile murderer. you can write all you want about how real or moral you think it is...but in the end it's a mind control fairy tale, and you bend over backwards to defend pedophile murderers and imaginary gods. so sad.
@BFouli give me proof that star wars, invisible dragons, the gods yahweh, zeus, ra, thor aren't real....therefore, by your logic...since they can't be disproved...they MUST be real, lol
@BFouli give me proof that the creator of the universe is allah and not brahman, yahweh, pan gu and nu wah, or odin. giive me proof that one god created the universe and not two or three. you expect me to disprove something that isn't even proven, lol.
@BFouli i don't agree there is an intelligence behind the creation of the universe, if there were i would think it would let its presence be known other than from when a pedophilic murderer wrote an ancient book in a cave, a book that followers have to twist to say to people "see?? there's science in there", lol. if there were a creator i'd think it'd want something better for humanity than rewarding them with 72 virgins for blowing themselves up in a bus full of jewish schoolchildren.
You say that there is no creator because a creator should have let himself be visible, while I have already answered this point before, do you read all what I write? The common thing between atheists is that they don't read, and if they read they don't understand, I wonder if you all drug addicts or something! talking to an atheist is boring because I have to repeat something over and over a million times, I really need to know what's your job, it must be far from intellectual effort
You wanna know what I think? I think that most of those who call themselves atheists have some religion, and they work with some political entity, but they are hiding their religion because that political entity told them to hide it in order not to get criticized, you all copy and paste the same questions about Islam from the same source, but if somebody spoke to you about something beyond your source of information, you can't answer because your job is to copy and paste not to think
@BFouli oh you are too funny, how many atheists and jews have nobel prizes in science and how many muslims? and you call atheists anti-intellectual lol...ok it's time to bow to the imaginary god at mecca again, the pedophile murder/raper of 9yo aicha told you so.
@BFouli " they are hiding their religion because that political entity told them to hide it in order not to get criticized" -> typical muslim paranoid thinking...yes, it's all the jews fault. in your head you are thinking "how can anyone hate a murderer/raper of 9yo and a god that gives suicide bombers 72 virgins for killing jews?" you just confirmed that islam destroys any decency in the brain.
Again the famous escaping way, you are escaping the reality and the fact that you are only an agent working for some political system, trying to support war on Islam by copying and pasting prepared forms of questions, and when a Muslim mentions anything about logic, you escape ad say that you accept nothing! Tell those who give you your salary that you are exposed and see how they will deal with it, you may be reassigned to somewhere else!
@BFouli yes, anyone who disagrees with pedophilia of 9yos and murder, jihad, and 72virgins for suicide bombing is working for mossad. there's muslim intellectualism for you...you got it absolutely right, and mohammed went to heaven on a flying horse...yep, that's right, you are so smart.
I told you to send a message to those who pay your salary, did you do that? I hope you did, look, you can speak forever and this will not change the fact that God is Allah and that he created everything including you and those who pay your salary to put comments, and that God has promised you lots of torture starting from sadness you find in your heart, and never goes away, up to torture in hell for eternity, without a stop, I imagine you begging God to stop torture for just 1 day
@BFouli "I imagine you begging God to stop torture for just 1 day" -> yes, i see how the religion of peace gives you such pleasure and delight at others suffering. you are a disgusting brainwashed pedophile follower.
haha, you are the brain washed follower, and you know who washed your brain and who pays you a salary to post comments here and in other places, do you get paid per hour or per comment? If you need money, do a respectable job rather than shouting everywhere that you don't believe in God, that's not a respectable job to get paid for, if you love writing, there are many ways to get paid for writing, but not this way
@BFouli "who pays you a salary to post comments here" -> the fantasy world of the muslim brain...i guess you better suicide bomb the internet because all these commenters speaking against pedophilia, jihad, jew/christian hatred, wife beating are working for mossad (yes i guess you figured out 90% of israeli govt. funding goes to paying millions of commenters like me across the world). after you suicide bomb for allah (the moon god) then you can get your 72 virgins, fool.
I send a reply to most of the people I debate with after few minutes because they have respectable ideas and opinions, they have logic and they have something they are debating to support, but you don't believe in any thing except what you eat and drink and have sex with, just like any cow or cat, you get paid for your comments and that's it, that's why you debate, it's all about money which buys you sex or food or drink, so I reply at you when I have nothing important to do
@BFouli "have sex with, just like any cow or cat" -> how childish you are, throwing out lies, when all i say about muslim doctrine is truth...mohammed was a pedophile, he had sex with 9yo aicha after marrying her at 6yo. you get 72 virgins when you die for allah. allah is just hubal the moon god who had three daughters al-lat, al-uzzah, manat. death penalty for leaving islam. it says in the koran to beat your disobedient wife, and to not make friends with jews, christians, unbelievers.
I send a reply to most of the people I debate with after few minutes because they have respectable ideas and opinions, they have logic and they have something they are debating to support, but you don't believe in any thing except what you eat and drink and have sex with, just like any cow or cat, you get paid for your comments and that's it, that's why you debate, it's all about money which buys you sex or food or drink, so I reply at you when I have nothing important to do
@BFouli "have sex with, just like any cow or cat" -> how childish you are, throwing out lies, when all i say about muslim doctrine is truth...mohammed was a pedophile, he had sex with 9yo aicha after marrying her at 6yo. you get 72 virgins when you die for allah. allah is just hubal the moon god who had three daughters al-lat, al-uzzah, manat. death penalty for leaving islam. it says in the koran to beat your disobedient wife, and to not make friends with jews, christians, unbelievers
@Vehan80107 "Have you even read the Quran???" -> hm i suppose you think after reading about jew/christian hatred, getting houris (virgins) in heaven, and how much allah's cock deserves to be sucked then i will magically become a muslim, LOL. it's so funny you bring up reading, since so many muslims can't even read, let alone read a whole book. literacy rates: afghanistan: 28%, yemen, 50%, pakistan, 49%, saudi 78%, sudan 61%, iran 77%, iraq 74%, egypt 71%, morocco 52%.
Oh and you forgot to mention the literacy rates of all the other "muslim countries" as well as countries with muslims (Picking and choosing, and not listing your sources is convinient huh?). I'm muslim and I can read and write just fine. But... you're a troll so I'm done responding to you. If you hate something you haven't even studied that is beyond being ignorant; that means you are stupid sir. Do us all a favor and stop being stupid. Thank you. Peace.
@Vehan80107 "Do us all a favor and stop being stupid." -> funny when faced with facts, all the religious can say is: "stop being stupid", big LOL. most muslim countries (countries with over 90% muslims) have literacy rates in 50%-70%, highest i've seen is indonesia with 90%. fine you can read and write, but don't tell me to read a book of hate when most muslims haven't read it cover to cover either.
"you haven't even studied" -> i've studied it, mohammed is a pedophile...have you?
@Vehan80107 and even if i read it in english it's not the same as reading it in arabic which muslims claim is the only true way it can be read (as if i'd learn a whole language to read one book of hatred)...
however, this is false since the original koran was written not in arabic but in syriac-aramaic and has potentially many different meanings from the arabic koran.
@goemon9378 why do you keep watching videos on a subject for something that you dont believe it even exists?are you a complete idiot?are you a fundamentalist atheist freak?...stop bashing on other people,why do you care what the other person believes in if he or she dont do any harm to you?and before you mention muslims blowing up jews,there are jews blowing up inoccent women and children in palestine,that dosent make all jews bad or all muslims bad,all religions have black ship
@dpapaioannow "before you mention muslims blowing up jews" -> is it written in the torah something like:
"Oh jewish people do not take the muslims and christians as friends"?
the "religion" (it's more political ideology) of islam makes it a point to separate outsiders and bring violence, it's a religion based on conquest and not making peace with outsiders:
Surah 5:51 "O believers do not take the Jews and Christians as friends...Allah indeed does not guide the wrongdoers"
@goemon9378 well in the jewish talmud which is considered the holliest of all books according to jewish priests it says that its ok to have sex with a 3 year old child,it says that gentiles are more like animals and god put them here so that they can be slaves to the jews,it justifes murder,plunder,rape,extortion,falsewitness etc etc etc as long as they are put in use against a non jew,radical jews believe that only they have souls because they are the superior race "chosen by god"
Respond to this video...i agree with your argument that most religions have been misinterepented ver the centuries and ended up to be
more of a political and social control ideology...by the fact is that jewish religion was doing all those things(that you attribute to other religions of doing)...all along...since its conception
@dpapaioannow ")you're the same thing basically" -> so denying the validity of dogma (muslim, jew or otherwise) that includes pedophilia and rewards for death, wife beating, calling outsiders monkeys and pigs, and not making friends with non-people of the same religion is the "same thing" ...i see.
@goemon9378 yes its the same thing,because fundamentalist jews have similar believes,do you even know how many rabbis have been accused or sentenced for pedophilia?your last argument has no basis what so ever,you just come across as a narrowminded one point of view person...are you a crypto jew sympathizer?...sorry its not working...try harder ;)
@dpapaioannow lol...yes, everyone who points out that mohammed was a pedophile must be a "fundamentalist jew sympathizer." of course, by extension jews are monkeys and pigs according to muslims. muslim logic at it's finest. (it helps to read what i write)
@goemon9378 i dont support either one who makes these claims about his fellow human beings...the quran dosent mention specifically say that jews or non muslims for that matter are pigs and monkeys(which the talmud does for ALL non jews,they call them animals amongst other "nice and peace loving stuff"),not all muslims are fundamentalist idiots and hate everyone who isnt a muslim,just like many non ultra orthodox jews...
@dpapaioannow "quran dosent mention specifically say that jews or non muslims for that matter are pigs and monkeys" -> Surah 5:59-60 Say: O People of the Book, do you resent anything we do other than that we believe in. Allah and what has been revealed to us and what was revealed before, and that most of you are transgressors? Say: Shall I tell you about those who will get a worse punishment from Allah cursed and on whom He poured for His Wrath, transformed them into monkeys and swine..."
@dpapaioannow your lack of knowledge of your faith is showing...you are obviously a fundamentalist jew working for mossad trying to make muslims look bad. stop pretending you jew.
@dpapaioannow great thanks for confirming for me how religious belief in the imaginary causes so much bigotry and hatred in the world...but now i know you are really a jew making muslims look bad by calling everyone who disagrees with pedophile mohammed a jew. please stop pretending you jew, iyour jewishness is so obvious.
@goemon9378 wrong again...that's your own little "extension" real muslims dont say these kind of bullshit,real peace loving jews dont say these bullshit about muslims either,you're just trying to mispresent things to appeear them to be as "facts" the way you see fit,ok...i'll rephrase,you seem to be a crypto orthodox zionist jew sympathizer holding an axe full of human blood in your hand and go ME? ZIONIST?ooohhh no no no,its the other guy's fault(zionist ultra orthodox jew logic at its finest)
@dpapaioannow "that's your own little "extension" real muslims dont say these kind of bullshit," oh really?? i made this up all by myself?
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"you dont seem to be doing a very good job at hiding your real intentions" -> yeap i'm working for mossad (same muslim argument as the last guy). if you believe mohammed went to heaven on a flying horse, i guess you can make yourself believe anything with no logic.
@goemon9378 iam saying that because you dont seem to be doing a very good job at hiding your real intentions,basically you can be smelled from like 10 miles away...non pun intended ;)
Search in youtube "24 Fallacies of Muslims - Part 2" and part 1 and 3 for historical sources that proves that NT WAS NOT CORRUPTED. That Lord Jesus was not a mitrhaism myth. But an historical fact. Many pagans religions have many similarities, which makes me wonder if they didnot copy the Gospel when the Apostles went to preach them and later incorporated in their pagan religions. PEACE
@lisheva1 The New Testament is a "false" book. It is written by an "Anti-Christ" & a self-proclaimed saint/apostle known as Paul, it includes 30-40 percent of his dogmas and self adaptions from the pagan religion called Mithra. In addition, the gospels still contradict it's own books as well as verses from the OT and God's revelations. Read over my comments and comprehend them. Christianity is a false religion. May you find true salvation in Islam, the only true & final word from God. Peace.
Mohammad PBUH raped and slaughtered kabeelas after kabeelas of Jews and raped their innocent little girls in the name of marrying them. I think Mohammad had no right to talk about Jews and Christians, because he only derides them after all the gory crimes against them.
Well, here you go taking it personal and insulting. you guys when confronted with reality show what you really are. by now You are willing to cut my head if you were in front of me. I asked you 3 times now to provide me access so to send you my historic facts . You are so willing to downgrade ancient religions, Manuscripts and beliefs, to make your religion the best and only "FALSE TRUTH". happy serving evil?. peaceful muslims? LOL.
There is also a GENOCIDE in SUDAN DAFUR BEING CARRYING BY muslims. But somehow the ONU and the WORLD are blind to see. Another fruit of the iSLAM RELIGION. SHAME ON CATHOLICS, SHAME ON ISLAM, THE BIGGEST POISON TO HUMANITY. wHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND CATHOLICISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. TRUE CHRISTIANS HAVE EXISTED ALWAYS. ARE NOT AND NEVER WERE PART OF THE CATHOLIC RELIGION. THEY WERE MURDERED BECAUSE OF THEIR DENIAL TO ACCEPT THE CATHOLICISM AS THE ONLY CHRISTIAN CHURCH
Have you listened the latest NEWS? Muslims declaring war and burning Christians houses in Egypt. Lord Jesus said Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? .. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil FRUIT of ISLAM. And this is the Right religion? is EVIL murder religion
@lisheva1 Look how this typical "bigot" Christian so easily changes the topic & brings in contemporary crisis of Muslims around the world. What else can you do besides using derogatory remarks, false assertions & baseless claims to describe Islam? You "FAIL" miserably. The fact to the matter remains, you will rot in hell like a sinner & an anti-Christ. "Repent."
I did not come here to listen to your hypocritical rants on Islam. You fail to even debate like a educated being. I am done with you.
@993ironman So I should listen all your rubbish about your imaginary Christian-Pagan believes? I have shown you the RADICAL diferences, but you just ignore. You are in a circle boy, you start and finish at the same point. You muslims cannot accept what your prophet was, and you can find this info in your hadith and the quran, is explicit. Or you just close your eyes and ignore. If I bring all the evil deeds your religion does is to show you, such religion cannot COME FROM GOD.
@993ironman You TWIST AND PERVERT the Verses from the Bible, taking even PARBLES and ILUSTRATIONS. You dont even know the diference between Christianity and Catholicism boy, I strongly suggest you to READ what Lord Jesus said: 37Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’b 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. See? LOVE, FORGIVENESS. SOMETHING UNKNOWN IN ISLAM
@993ironman Besides I dont fail to explain, you need to research more and stop believing your CONSPIRATION THEORIES. NT is corrupted? NT have foretold many prophecies. NT can give you exact dates, about history. If you affirm NT is corrupted is because Mahoma said so, you dont think by yourself. I have shown you your prophet lying about the worshiP to Mary. I TOLD YOU WE DONT WORSHIP MARY, SHE WAS A HUMAN MOTHER OF JESUS. AND IF CATHOLICS DOES SHAME ON THEM. POINT
@993ironman ONLY GOD IS THE JUDGE AND HE CAN CONDEM to HELL. You as me are nobody to decide who will go to hell and who not. You really blaspheme taking the place to God. I wish you to be saved, not to go to HELL, this what make the diferences between you and me. You wish me bad, I wish you good. What I have said is not hypocrital is reality. You insist your religion is the TRUE? show me its GOOD DEEDS, because I only see murder and intolerance around the WORLD.
@lisheva1 Read over my answers & stop making baseless assertions. All you are doing is creating your own defensive opinions on the Bible, i have spoken to countless Church ministers, university professors & bible theologians, so stop being a hypocrite. "Accept" the truth, Christianity is a "FALSE" religion. Do you even realize that your comments have nothing to do with anything i have stated before? I don't care what you do with your false faith, as far as the matter goes, you can go to "hell."
@993ironman Oh boy Here I go again: Early CHRISTIANS NOTICED THE SIMILARITES, Paul talked about this perversion that was going to infiltrate to the church.Jesus foretold this. We know the names of these people simon Magus the funder of Nicolaits [Mistraism] in ROME, the Bible called him the MAN of SIN. There is also A SIMILIRATY BEWTEEN HORUS and Krishna from Induism and Jesus. Vatican the Catholics dont represent Christianity. I have prepared a letter to give you historical proofs.
@993ironman You are not discovering the black point. This was pointed out centuries ago by real Christians. Make me a favor and listen the 6 videos in youtube Look for "Revelation 17 Whore Babylon Antichrist - Part 1" Google whore of Babylon and you will see thousands of Christians denuncing this.
@993ironman See Surah says that you must believe in the Bible. 29:46 And dispute ye not with the People of the Book... but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." 29:47 And thus (it is) that We have sent down the Book to thee. So the People of the Book believe therein, as also do some of these (pagan Arabs): and none but Unbelievers reject our signs. Obey Quran, BELIEVE
@lisheva1 There is only "one" God and "Muhammad" is his final seal of all prophets / messengers. The "Qur'an" is the final revelation from God to mankind. May you find the true salvation to Islam and walk astray from the Mithra adopted pagan religion by Paul. The New Testament has been corrupted. Thus God sends a new revelation. God is all wise, all-knowing, all-just. All praises be to him.
ANd you really believe Mahoma a raper, pedophile, murder, genocide, adulter, is the final prophet? All prophets have been an example of MORALITY and DECENCY, Mahoma is the opossite, he violated all COMMANDEMENTS GOD GAVE TO MOISES. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear...
26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; Sorry boy your Mahoma came from the dessert, he was an orphan, abandoned by his Mother, acting wrongly since a child. A lost soul.
@993ironman But Paul didnot write the Gospels where exists the similarites with the Mithraism! Now not only exist similarites with Mithaism, but Budish with Krisna, and many many religions around the world. Is posible the pagans religions copy the recit from the NT. And not the other way. Remember Jesus Apostles [witness Jesus] went around the world preaching the Gospel of Jesus, Paul was not the only Apostle! He founded many Churches that doesnot exist today. But Christianity remains.
@lisheva1 The history is all there, most importantly read over my comments and learn something instead of blabbering typicality of your ignorant opinions which do not come with any sources. You have to realize this, i am not interested in your opinion, my arguments came with proof, so where is yours? I am not interested in the typical lies, bigotry and hypocrisy of a Christian. I know you Christians very well, you will not fool anyone in this world, your agenda will soon be exposed. I promise.
@993ironman Search in youtube "24 Fallacies of Muslims - Part 2" for historical references and proofs. I told you 3 times now. BTW do you know that 600 muslims convert to Christian Faith each hour? even there is Al-Jazeera interview about this, and muslims reconized this fact. This must be shocking for you, as Islam is the "super and final TRUE" They convert because they have dreams and visions of Jesus. But as many you will say, that these are lies.
@993ironman wwwDOTpeshittaDOTorg ORIGINAL ARAMAIC 4 FIRST BOOKS written by the apostles of Jesus, eye witnesses. Paul was not even Christian yet, The books were almost completed.
@993ironman Hi ironboy do you know the Quran actually testified to the validity of the Bible and repeatedly said so (see Sura 4:47; 2: 41, 91; 20:133; 29:46). Accordingly, Muslims can not argue that Christians and Jews corrupted their Bible before the birth of Islam! uuuupppss!! lol
Besides I dont care about the Pagan Mithology and Christianity. I trust the Bible because ITS PROPHECIES HAS BEEN FULLFILED. And this makes the Bible Trusful in regards of the similarites of ancient paganism. Google Bible and Science Google, Bible and Archeology, google Bible and History. Besides how ilogical that Christianity is the only religion that still STANDS!
Also as the Bible has been proved to be arqueological trustful and historically proved, also is a prophetic book. The Bible foretold: The raise and decline of ancient Empires, the Mosque in Jerusalem in 688 DC and the raise of armies of Islam, USA creation in 1776, Israel creation in 1948 and 1967, the battle of Tours, among others and the amazing thing of this is that dates came exactly at time. This showing that the GOD of the Bible is in control of times. I can proved you this.
@lisheva1 The actual numbers are a relatively trivial detail, but these examples highlight an important point - the "UNRELIABILITY" of the Gospels concerning the life and teachings of Jesus and therefore their unsuitability as a "basis" for doctrine. False, fake, man-meddled, changed, to find a better way to have it accepted by the pagans. The Romans during 1st to 4th & on ce AD were observing Mithraism, a pagan religion quite similar to Paul's New Testament.
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benmarzouk1 1 year ago
SubHan ALLAH.. peace be upon Marry..
peace be upon Jesus
peace be upon Moses
peace be upon Mohammad
peace be upon all prophets
Thank you GOD for showing us the TRUTH throught the QURAN
( ELHAMDOLELLAH).
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 What do you think of nations such as Iran, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia and the way they in force sharia law
Asapoo 1 year ago
@nourama1 I dont understand why you would'nt condemn such nations in the way that they conduct sharia law in such a inhuman medieval way, it is one of the reasons why people cannot appreciate Islam as a peacfull religion as rarely do we see prominent or any muslims condemn such acts publicly, yet when some tasteless Danish paper prints a silly picture the Islamic world reacts in violent riots. I dont think other religions would act in such a way, such as the catholic child sex scandel,
Asapoo 1 year ago
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nourama1 1 year ago
@Asapoo
about what you said about the nations that condust sharia low.. I dont know what you hear or see but I dont think that they are doing something inhuman.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 so your saying stoning and beating to death over such things as adultry and petty theifing is not inhuman, how can u call that peacfull. Very strange
Asapoo 1 year ago
@Asapoo because after they are stoned, bloody and dead they are quiet....(peaceful)
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 Twisted beliefs. There is only one life here on planet earth, you should live it to the full.
Asapoo 1 year ago
@Asapoo
you said before that you agree that there are good and bad in all humans.. we do condemn those who reacted in violent way toward the Danish prints.. although I felt a lot of anger and I do not respect what he did becouse the prophet is a holy person to us.. how would you feel if someone insults the person that you love more than yourself??
this is how we feel about the prophet Mohammad.. but even though we dont agree with the violent reaction.
nourama1 1 year ago
Islam is the last religion on earth. and the prophet Mohammad( peace be upon him) is the last messanger . so ''Whoever wishes, let him believe and whosoever will, let him disbelieve
'' No compulsion in religion These are (Ayat) taken from QURAN
If it doesnt convince you and you dont want to believe in it just give it some respect and dont attack it with stupid wrong explanations that you wish that it would be true.
God forgive me if I made any mistake and may God show all of us the right
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 " give it some respect and dont attack it with stupid wrong explanations that you wish that it would be true." -> sorry i don't respect pedophilia, beheading, wifebeating, not making friends because a book says so, calling unbelievers Devil worshippers and that i should fight them...nope will never happen. i quoted the koran and hadith in all these instances, you haven't. so who has the "wrong" explanation?
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
all these things have nothing to do with Islam. you and alot of people like you trying so hard to make Islam look so bad. I reallydont understand why you are carring so many hate to muslims.There are hundreds of persons convert to Islam just becouse they read about the prophet Mohammad.
read how many scientists and from Europe and west countries respect him and say woderfull things about him. how do you explain that?
nourama1 1 year ago
Sunan Dawud
Book 41, Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 my dear friend even before the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha she was engaged to another man . which means that by that time . before about 1400 years ago it was very NORMAL for women to be married at that age in their society . and it was not unusual or unacceptable
just like a lot of traditions that were acceptable in the past and they are not today. and its different from society to another.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 "mohammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha she was engaged to another man" ->
again, mr. logical brain-and-pedophile-apologist...where's your source? from this transaction documented in Sahih Bukhari 7.18 it appears mohammed made initiation
"The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Abu Bakr seemed to protest this.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
again by that time it was normal to marry at that age.. even woman at the 19th century were married at age 10.
the British low at year 1911 allowed women to marry at age 12.
you can ask, read and make sure from this.
thank you.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 "before about 1400 years ago it was very NORMAL for women to be married at that age " -> why did Abu Bakr say "but I am your brother?" (when he wasn't)
your argument might make sense...if mohammed weren't a supposedly a "prophet of god" and moral beacon. i'd think this mohammed would leave a better legacy than:
Bukhari, Book 002, Number 572:
Aisha said “ Whenever I found dried semen on the garments of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), I scraped it off with my nails.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
The (Aya) that you mentioned ( men are in charge of women) does not mean that they are better than women or in higher level. In Islam men have duties towards women. the man have to work and the money he gains is not for him its for him and his family on the other hand women are not obliged to work in Islam and if they work and gain money their money is for them only they dont have to spend nothing on the house or the family. Man in Islam has more responsibility to serve the woman
nourama1 1 year ago
@goemon9378
about beating women as you noticed at the (Aya) it is the last thing man should do (the last word in the Aya). and it means to beat her with the tip of his clothes. It is totally forbidden in Islam to beat animals harshly so what you think about human beings. any way the prophet Mohammad our exampel never beat a woman in his life and he says ( the goods of you will not beat the women even in the tip of the clothes)
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 prophet Mohammad was a violent savage, beheading hundredes of people of whom he was not in war with, how could you idolise someone like that .
Asapoo 1 year ago
@Asapoo
The prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was a very wise man.. he never did what you are saying .. read about him there are alot of information online and written books.
mabay I cant help you alot in that becouse I am only a muslim who really hurt her to see such attacking comments about Islam, Quran and the prophet Mohammad.. under a video contains alot of respect from muslims to another religion. I tried to answer you as much asI can.I wish from God to show you the right way.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 Wise man maybe, peaceful man defiantly NOT read up on the Bani Qurayza beheadings. Religion on the whole is run by evil control freaks, the punishment for apostasy under sharia law is death. All religion is violent and corrupt apart from hinduism, unfortunetly for you in present day Islam is at top of the table. Religion does far more damage than positive and only segregates people. I hope one day my children of no faith will be able to marry your children.
Asapoo 1 year ago
@Asapoo
not true Islam is the religion of peace just becouse there are some people using it incorrectly does not mean that this is Islam.
muslims are like all other humans.. there are good people and bad people.
and the bads do not speak in the name of muslims.. and about the prophet Mohammad he was the most peacfull man in the world .. the world will never know a man like him. (peace be upon him)
read about him and discover yourself.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 I fully agree that there are good and bad in all humans. In essence I am sure islam is peacefull religion. Have you ever doubted your religion when looking at a person of other faith who believes as adamantly in it as you but in a different religion with you knowing that he is only believe in mythes. What do you think of nations such as Iran, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia and the way they in force sharia law
Asapoo 1 year ago
@nourama1 interesting how you don't reference ANYTHING from the koran, i think it would be easy since you've been reading the koran since you could read.
"men are in charge of women) does not mean that they are better than women" -> does this make sense to you?? you say you have a logical brain?? how come in 2:282, two women wtinesses equal one male witness?
"it means to beat her with the tip of his clothes" -> where does it say this "tips of his clothes" in the koran?
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 I dont reference from Quran becouse its a little hard to me to translate it to english.. I read Quran in arabic. anyway my sources comes from the explanations to Quran which I learned from Shiekhs and Emams who studies these things more deeply than me. which I also suggest to you to get more answers from them. becouse to you too am saying I am only a muslim who hurt her to see so many people attack her religion under a vedio that shows how much Islam respects other religions
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1"its a little hard to me to translate it to english..I read Quran in arabic. anyway my sources comes from the explanations to Quran which I learned from Shiekhs and Emams" -> this is your excuse? everyone uses the hindu-ARABIC numbering system, i reference the numbers and it gives me the verse in English and Arabic. do you not know how to use numbers? anyway, you admit getting information second-hand (why would you need to since you supposedly read the koran yourself?), blah pathetic
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I dont have to give you any exuses my brother.. this is my religion and I believe in it with no doubts.. I only tried my best to convice you. If you dont want to believe or respect it then like it says in Quran (''Whoever wishes, let him believe and whosoever will, let him disbelieve
Its your choice.
thankyou.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 child marriage is also allowed in the koran...if this were the supposed word of a prophet of god why is child marriage allowed in the supposed "word of god"?? didn't god know better that times will change and people will know better and not let his followers be apologists for pedophilia??
65:4 (about divorce)"As for those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you are in doubt then their term shall be for three months, and those too who have NOT MENSTRUATED YET"
goemon9378 1 year ago
@nourama1 " the prophet Mohammad our exampel never beat a woman in his life " -> . if you want to follow mohammed's examples you should enjoy torture and beheading to get a treasure location:
Tabari 8:122/Ishaq:515 The Prophet gave orders to Zubayr concerning Kinanah, saying, “Torture him until you root out and extract what he has.” So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
its mentioned not to take friends the jews and christians who ATTACK muslims
if you read the history jews and christians lived for hundreds of years under the control of Islam.. and they were all free to worship God the way they want. The prophet Mohammad promised to protect them as long as they live with muslims.
we all agree that we worship one God .. let him judge between us in our differences.
I really respect your knowledge and your readings about Islam.
God bless you.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 Whats the punishment for apostasy under sharia law.
Asapoo 1 year ago
@Asapoo
The Quran says: (
Wills let him believe and whosoever will, let him disbelieve.)
The Quan says also: (No compulsion in religion)
no body can force you to believe and its mentioned in the Quran very clearly. people can advice you can try to convince you but cannot force you.
only God have the right to punish disbelievers becouse he created humans... humanbeings have no right. to do that.
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1
"its mentioned not to take friends the jews and christians who ATTACK muslims" -> where does it say not to take jews and christians "who attack you" as friends in 5:51?? and how do you explain 4:76 saying
"those who disbelieve fight in behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil"?
it doesn't say anything about "those who ATTACK you." and 3:118?
"Do not take as close friends other than your own people."
where does it say "those who attack you"??
goemon9378 1 year ago
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Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
goemon9378 1 year ago
@MrChickybee1
Thank you for your message :)
again am saying Quran is one book.. one version in the whole world .
you will not find even one world different.
just becouse there are some people explains it the way they want to does not mean that it has many versions.
this is stupid to hear from the people who uses the religion incorrectly and say this is Islam
nourama1 1 year ago
my fellow christians and jews. isnt it amazing that muhammed a pagan arab by your own words glorfied mary and jesus both whom were jews in his own quran and to his fellow arabs.
ironic don't you think :)
ishamael0 1 year ago
jewish people not only disbelieve in Marry and Jesus they also say that holy Marry is not virgin and that she made a sin with a man and thats how she become pregnant. they also tried to kill jesus but God saved him from them.
Islam gives Marry and Jesue a lot of respect and there is a whole (sura) in the Quran named after her (surat maryam) and it is the same Marry mentioned in the Bible. There is only one virgin Marry. the mother of Jesus.
nourama1 1 year ago
@MrChickybee1 there is only one Quran in the world. and the prophet mohammad was mentioned in the Bible and in all holy books just like all prophets are mentioned in Quran but in the other holy books the name of the profet Mohammad was deleted.
Quran there is only one
Bible there are 400different books
nourama1 1 year ago
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سلام الله عليك يا مريم و على نبي الله عيسى المسيح عليه السلام
ahmad551 1 year ago
(I know I shouldn't give you any more attention but..)
Don't put words into my mouth fool. I'm not a Jew or Christian because their scriptures (which I have actually read) are filled with contradictions.
Here is an example of your reasoning:
friend: Have you ever listened to Jimmy Hendrix?
goemon9378: No.
friend: Good because his music sucks.
goemon9378: Jimmy Hendrix sucks!!! I hate Jimmy Hendrix!!
Seriously, if you want to know whats in the Quran, just read it. Its not hard... Peace...
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 unlike what you like to believe (i'm jewish or uninformed hater) i own a koran and have dozens and dozens of pages marked, if you started reading a book and all it said was how bad this god would punish you, how you mustn't make friends with nonbelievers, etc...would you seriously keep reading? no, i'm not an uninformed hater...i do despise pedophilia, wife beating, not making friends because a book says so, calling nonbelievers monkeys and pigs, part of the teachings in islam
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 This is not true.. Quran does not teach you these things Islam is religion of peace please learn more about the Quran.. ask people who knows to explain it to you as the way it is if you are interesred and if your not please just dont say wrong things in public about Islam becouse you are making other people believe in those horrible things that you are saying .
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 "Quran does not teach you these things" -> another muslim who hasn't read the koran or hadiths...if you had read it you would know exactly where verses condoning wife beating, not making friends with non-muslims, calling jews monkeys and pigs are. and which hadiths tell of mohammed's sex with 9yo aisha. i've quoted the "monkeys and pigs" from the koran already. do you want me to quote the others??
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 goemon9378 am a muslim.. and ofcourse I read the Quran since I started to learn to read! I dont need you to quote any thing.. I know exacly what you mean. please dont try to explain what you read the way you want. dont try to understand what is written the way you like to understand. you would wish that Quran and Islam really teaches those things you mentioned.. but am sorry to disapoint you..
nourama1 1 year ago
@goemon9378 I suggest to you to ask an explanation to the things you mentioned from a MUSLIM man (Shaikh or Emam)
this is ridiculous to think that 25% of the world population believe in wha tyou trying to say.
nourama1 1 year ago
@goemon9378
and by the way I am a muslim not becouse I born to a muslim family.. I am a muslim becouse God gave me a healthy brain and the ability to think logically.. and I do respect you for what you are becouse I have a lot of (non-muslims) friends.
Thank you vey much for reading our holly book,
nourama1 1 year ago
@nourama1 oh ok, what did your logical brain think when you read
Surah 4:76 "Those who believe fight for the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight on behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil. Surely the guile of the Devil is weak"
3:118 "O believers, do not take as close friends other than your own people, they will spare no effort to corrupt you and wish to see you suffer. Hatred has already been manifested in what they utter..."
goemon9378 1 year ago
@nourama1 oh ok, what did your logical brain think when you read
Surah 4:76 "Those who believe fight for the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight on behalf of the Devil. Fight then the followers of the Devil. Surely the guile of the Devil is weak"
3:118 "O believers, do not take as close friends other than your own people, they will spare no effort to corrupt you and wish to see you suffer. Hatred has already been manifested in what they utter..."
goemon9378 1 year ago
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@nourama1 4:34 "Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made some of them excel the others, and because they spend some of their wealth. Hence righteous women are obedient, guarding the unseen which Allah has guarded. And those of them that you fear might rebel, admonish them and abandon them in their beds and BEAT them."
5:51 "O believers, do not take the Jews and Christians as friends...Whoever takes them as friends is surely one of them. Allah indeed not guide the wrongdoers."
goemon9378 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 "'m not a Jew or Christian because their scriptures (which I have actually read) are filled with contradictions." -> and the koran isn't? didn't you know the original koran was written in syriac-aramaic and can have many different interpretations from the current arabic one.
/watch?v=JJyeuXtZFuQ
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Just because the Luxembourg quran might be the oldest to be discovered, does not mean it is the original... that's like saying the oldest human remains discovered are the remains of the first human...
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 "are filled with contradictions." -> there's also the issue of allat, al-uzzah, and manat. mohammed changed the verse after 53:20 to read what it says now, belittling the daughters of the moon god to what it is now, but it originally read "These are the exalted gharāniq (bird), whose intercession is hoped for.". mohammed wanted to appease the meccans who worshipped them at the time, as documented by Al-Tabari.
goemon9378 1 year ago
Please don't feed the troll. He has already admitted that he has not read the Quran.
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 yes, if you haven't read the torah and talmud, and the bible cover to cover you don't know anything about these religions so why do you think they are false? oh yeah, because it says so in the quran. i bet i've read more quran than most muslims (many of which are illiterate). and many don't even know what's in it and go by what imams tell them.
goemon9378 1 year ago
typically a shia movie,,, showing an actor for Mary. Mother of Isa Al mesieh-- you've done it with prophet Yusuf also...Astarfirullah!!
achraft 1 year ago
Fuck the quran !! SATANIC BOOK !
ZIONADIEL 1 year ago
I bought a Quran and hadith today just so i could wipe my ass with it
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
You do the something in your life, when your boss orders you to do something that you don’t like or you think may be unfair, you try to convince him, but if you failed, you will escalate him,
BFouli 1 year ago
but what if your company CEO was the one who ordered you, you can’t escalate, but what if he made a policy of “Don’t argue about orders” what will you do? Are you going to break the policy and get fired? That’s not everything, what if that company was the only company in the world? If you got fired you will never get hired by anybody ever after, simply because there are no other companies!
BFouli 1 year ago
This is the case we are talking about here, God is the one who created the universe and he set the rules, and told you that have the right to ask about him to confirm that he exists and you have the right to ask every question to make sure he is the creator and he has the power etc. and when you receive an order you have the right to confirm that the order you receive is his, but you have no right to argue about the orders!
BFouli 1 year ago
That’s the God I worship, he is not democratic, simply he didn’t ask you your opinion before he said that theft is forbidden, he didn’t ask you your permission before he created you, he didn’t ask your permission before he made you jobless or before he made you have that silly boss you have! He never takes your permission about anything, he dictates his orders and orders you to accept them because they are his,
BFouli 1 year ago
Quran Surah 4:89
They wish that you disbelieve, as they have disbelieved, so that you will all be alike. Do not, then, take any companions from them, until they emigrate in the Way of Allah. Then SHOULD THEY TURN BACK, SEIZE THEM and KILL THEM wherever you find them; and do not take from them any companion or supporter.
so where in the quran does it say apostates shouldn't be killed?
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
those who fought him are the worst because most of them saw miracles like breaking the moon into two halves and telling secret stories about Christians that they were hiding, so keeping ignoring Mohamed SWA means they are the worst people and deserve death because they know the truth and keep denying it!
BFouli 1 year ago
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did shiites make this shitty movie about the whore Mary/Maryam?
pinkpandaapple 1 year ago
Hey Muslims isn't it forbidden to draw Maryam/Jesus/any "prophet"/Mohammed in any day...Oops haha I meant way?
Fuck you criminal xtians and lying low muslims and dirty jews.
pinkpandaapple 1 year ago
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MOHAMMAD SUCKS PIG COCK !, AND SO DOES ALL HIS FOLLOWERS !
SHITHOT5 1 year ago
@SHITHOT5 followers of Muhammad = followers of Jesus = followers of Moses
calm down
775v 1 year ago
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I'm a muslim and we believe in jesus as a prophet like noah & Abraham & Moses the best thing in the life is the religion .
NicuRobin 1 year ago 5
Religion is mind control and lies
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 If you had a bad experience with religion ,it doesn't mean that everybody does!
Don't believe me,ask the 1500000000 Muslims
PeopleMustAct 1 year ago
@PeopleMustAct and if any of these 1.5 billion muslims want to leave the religion they get killed, lol
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Please give me the name of a Muslim killed by Muslims judges because he left Islam, let me tell you what really happens, when 2 Muslims of low education have a dispute about money, one of them kills the other and tries to make people sympathy with him, and he says oh I killed him because he insulted God, that's why you Christians said the rumor that Muslims are killed when they leave Islam, Christians invented many rumors about Islam like stoning a raped woman and very strange things
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli wow, either you don't know tenets of your own faith or you are practicing taqiyya
/watch?v=7XRCYlZ4XOQ
also from the Encyclopedia of Islam: a male apostate must be put to death unless he suffers from a mental disorder or converted under duress, for example, due to an imminent danger of being killed. A female apostate must be either executed, according to Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh), or imprisoned
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 \
I am not sure if you understand English or not! a crime is not considered a crime in any religion or country except if there is an intention, Prophet Mohamed said that we are not punished in case of unintended error, forgetting based error, or what we forced to do, so in case a woman is raped, she is had no intention of doing something wrong, and she is not punished accordingly, no woman over the history of Islam was punished for being rapped, I dare you give me a single woman name
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli hello? wtf are you talking about? i didn't mention rape or money. and you ask me if i understand english, lol. do you know what apostasy is?
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
This comment is not for you, I am debating with many people. Wikipedia is not an Islamic reference because it is edited by non Muslims, we Muslims have fixed references which are Quran and Hadeth saheh books, and according to all Islamic books, Prophet Mohamed made a solh hodaybeya agreement which states that apostating Muslims should be returned back to their original places, so why did prophet Mohamed do that if apostating Muslims should be killed as per your fake reference?
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing. But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I don't think you really understand English, those hadeth scripts and and verse are mentioning certain people, and gain I REPEAT MY question, if Islamic law is to kill who ever leave Islam, then why did Prophet Mohamed return back those who left Islam in Solh elhodaybeya? Don't waste your time and my time, there is a difference between a general law and a specific law, all your evidences are mentioning specific people, if you don't believe me, then answer my question above about solh
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli " those hadeth scripts and and verse are mentioning certain people" -> you have NO critical thinking skills. the treaty of Hudaibiya was a specific treaty lasting 10 years with quraish people. and NO, it didn't say apostates would be returned to mohammed.
"If any one from the Quraish came to the Muslims and was converted to Islam he was to be returned to the Quraish. On the other hand, if a Muslim sought refuge with the Quraish, he was not to be delivered to the Muslims. "
goemon9378 1 year ago
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@BFouli "Don't waste your time and my time" -> exactly! where is it written in the hadiths that apostates won't be killed?? i gave you:
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'
do you know what an apostate is? the treaty of hudaibiya doesn't involve apostates, it involves the quraish a SPECIFIC people, and NOT GENERAL law
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
BFouli 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Let me send you another evidence that you don't understand English, here is what the bible says: Deuteronomy, Chapter 13, KJV:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli
oh please, your lies are too much
/watch?v=1d4J6MGhgkU
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
You know nothing about Islamic rules, hodod can never be stopped, not temporarily and definitely not permanently, if killing those who leave Islam is among Hodod, Prophet Mohamed would have never stopped it even for a second, it was time specific and people specific.
Prophet Mohamed say that the worst person is the one who fights a prophet or fought by a prophet, so while those who supported him are the best people,
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli "so while those who supported him are the best people," -> translation: those who support pedophilia of marrying a 6yo and having sex with her when she is 9 are the best people, yeah right.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Look at your girls, they lose virginity at the age of 8, they don't get married but instead they turn into bitches who have sex with a dozen of men before the age of 20, and now you are sad because a woman got married at the age of 9 and had sex with only one man during all her life, I guess you must be happy to live between bitches, while me and my people hate even the word bitch because the person who finds his body cheap so that many people can share it is scorned by my people
BFouli 1 year ago
but again I repeat he gave you the right to confirm that he exists and confirm that the orders are from him, so he gave you some rights and took some, if you accept I can prove to you that this god exists and I can prove to you that those orders are his, that’s your human right, but if you want to protest to his orders, you can protest against him directly, I have nothing to do with you or your protesting, all I can do is warn you that you will go to hell
BFouli 1 year ago
@goemon9378
my god who I worship is strong and his will is absolute and he can do anything at the time he wants, if this god ordered me to stand on my head instead of my feet, I won't ask him why he gave me such an order, simply because he can send me to hell in less than a second, and he can leave me forever there, and on the other side he can make me happy forever if I obeyed a single order he gives me!
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli your god is fake, not real, there's no proof for it and it only relies on a bunch of crazy people to do its will and your prophet is a pedophile murderer. you can write all you want about how real or moral you think it is...but in the end it's a mind control fairy tale, and you bend over backwards to defend pedophile murderers and imaginary gods. so sad.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Give me a single proof that there is no creator for the universe!
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli give me proof that star wars, invisible dragons, the gods yahweh, zeus, ra, thor aren't real....therefore, by your logic...since they can't be disproved...they MUST be real, lol
goemon9378 1 year ago
@BFouli give me proof that the creator of the universe is allah and not brahman, yahweh, pan gu and nu wah, or odin. giive me proof that one god created the universe and not two or three. you expect me to disprove something that isn't even proven, lol.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
If you agree that there is a creator to the universe, I will prove his name to you, but first we must agree about a point to move to the next!
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli i don't agree there is an intelligence behind the creation of the universe, if there were i would think it would let its presence be known other than from when a pedophilic murderer wrote an ancient book in a cave, a book that followers have to twist to say to people "see?? there's science in there", lol. if there were a creator i'd think it'd want something better for humanity than rewarding them with 72 virgins for blowing themselves up in a bus full of jewish schoolchildren.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
You say that there is no creator because a creator should have let himself be visible, while I have already answered this point before, do you read all what I write? The common thing between atheists is that they don't read, and if they read they don't understand, I wonder if you all drug addicts or something! talking to an atheist is boring because I have to repeat something over and over a million times, I really need to know what's your job, it must be far from intellectual effort
BFouli 1 year ago
@goemon9378
You wanna know what I think? I think that most of those who call themselves atheists have some religion, and they work with some political entity, but they are hiding their religion because that political entity told them to hide it in order not to get criticized, you all copy and paste the same questions about Islam from the same source, but if somebody spoke to you about something beyond your source of information, you can't answer because your job is to copy and paste not to think
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli oh you are too funny, how many atheists and jews have nobel prizes in science and how many muslims? and you call atheists anti-intellectual lol...ok it's time to bow to the imaginary god at mecca again, the pedophile murder/raper of 9yo aicha told you so.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@BFouli " they are hiding their religion because that political entity told them to hide it in order not to get criticized" -> typical muslim paranoid thinking...yes, it's all the jews fault. in your head you are thinking "how can anyone hate a murderer/raper of 9yo and a god that gives suicide bombers 72 virgins for killing jews?" you just confirmed that islam destroys any decency in the brain.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Again the famous escaping way, you are escaping the reality and the fact that you are only an agent working for some political system, trying to support war on Islam by copying and pasting prepared forms of questions, and when a Muslim mentions anything about logic, you escape ad say that you accept nothing! Tell those who give you your salary that you are exposed and see how they will deal with it, you may be reassigned to somewhere else!
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli yes, anyone who disagrees with pedophilia of 9yos and murder, jihad, and 72virgins for suicide bombing is working for mossad. there's muslim intellectualism for you...you got it absolutely right, and mohammed went to heaven on a flying horse...yep, that's right, you are so smart.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I told you to send a message to those who pay your salary, did you do that? I hope you did, look, you can speak forever and this will not change the fact that God is Allah and that he created everything including you and those who pay your salary to put comments, and that God has promised you lots of torture starting from sadness you find in your heart, and never goes away, up to torture in hell for eternity, without a stop, I imagine you begging God to stop torture for just 1 day
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli "I imagine you begging God to stop torture for just 1 day" -> yes, i see how the religion of peace gives you such pleasure and delight at others suffering. you are a disgusting brainwashed pedophile follower.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
haha, you are the brain washed follower, and you know who washed your brain and who pays you a salary to post comments here and in other places, do you get paid per hour or per comment? If you need money, do a respectable job rather than shouting everywhere that you don't believe in God, that's not a respectable job to get paid for, if you love writing, there are many ways to get paid for writing, but not this way
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli "who pays you a salary to post comments here" -> the fantasy world of the muslim brain...i guess you better suicide bomb the internet because all these commenters speaking against pedophilia, jihad, jew/christian hatred, wife beating are working for mossad (yes i guess you figured out 90% of israeli govt. funding goes to paying millions of commenters like me across the world). after you suicide bomb for allah (the moon god) then you can get your 72 virgins, fool.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I send a reply to most of the people I debate with after few minutes because they have respectable ideas and opinions, they have logic and they have something they are debating to support, but you don't believe in any thing except what you eat and drink and have sex with, just like any cow or cat, you get paid for your comments and that's it, that's why you debate, it's all about money which buys you sex or food or drink, so I reply at you when I have nothing important to do
BFouli 1 year ago
@BFouli "have sex with, just like any cow or cat" -> how childish you are, throwing out lies, when all i say about muslim doctrine is truth...mohammed was a pedophile, he had sex with 9yo aicha after marrying her at 6yo. you get 72 virgins when you die for allah. allah is just hubal the moon god who had three daughters al-lat, al-uzzah, manat. death penalty for leaving islam. it says in the koran to beat your disobedient wife, and to not make friends with jews, christians, unbelievers.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I send a reply to most of the people I debate with after few minutes because they have respectable ideas and opinions, they have logic and they have something they are debating to support, but you don't believe in any thing except what you eat and drink and have sex with, just like any cow or cat, you get paid for your comments and that's it, that's why you debate, it's all about money which buys you sex or food or drink, so I reply at you when I have nothing important to do
BFouli 1 year ago
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@BFouli "have sex with, just like any cow or cat" -> how childish you are, throwing out lies, when all i say about muslim doctrine is truth...mohammed was a pedophile, he had sex with 9yo aicha after marrying her at 6yo. you get 72 virgins when you die for allah. allah is just hubal the moon god who had three daughters al-lat, al-uzzah, manat. death penalty for leaving islam. it says in the koran to beat your disobedient wife, and to not make friends with jews, christians, unbelievers
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Have you even read the Quran??? And when I mean have you read the Quran I mean the whole thing, front to back.
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 "Have you even read the Quran???" -> hm i suppose you think after reading about jew/christian hatred, getting houris (virgins) in heaven, and how much allah's cock deserves to be sucked then i will magically become a muslim, LOL. it's so funny you bring up reading, since so many muslims can't even read, let alone read a whole book. literacy rates: afghanistan: 28%, yemen, 50%, pakistan, 49%, saudi 78%, sudan 61%, iran 77%, iraq 74%, egypt 71%, morocco 52%.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
Oh and you forgot to mention the literacy rates of all the other "muslim countries" as well as countries with muslims (Picking and choosing, and not listing your sources is convinient huh?). I'm muslim and I can read and write just fine. But... you're a troll so I'm done responding to you. If you hate something you haven't even studied that is beyond being ignorant; that means you are stupid sir. Do us all a favor and stop being stupid. Thank you. Peace.
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 "Do us all a favor and stop being stupid." -> funny when faced with facts, all the religious can say is: "stop being stupid", big LOL. most muslim countries (countries with over 90% muslims) have literacy rates in 50%-70%, highest i've seen is indonesia with 90%. fine you can read and write, but don't tell me to read a book of hate when most muslims haven't read it cover to cover either.
"you haven't even studied" -> i've studied it, mohammed is a pedophile...have you?
goemon9378 1 year ago
@Vehan80107 and even if i read it in english it's not the same as reading it in arabic which muslims claim is the only true way it can be read (as if i'd learn a whole language to read one book of hatred)...
however, this is false since the original koran was written not in arabic but in syriac-aramaic and has potentially many different meanings from the arabic koran.
watch?v=JJyeuXtZFuQ
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I'm not surprised...
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@goemon9378 why do you keep watching videos on a subject for something that you dont believe it even exists?are you a complete idiot?are you a fundamentalist atheist freak?...stop bashing on other people,why do you care what the other person believes in if he or she dont do any harm to you?and before you mention muslims blowing up jews,there are jews blowing up inoccent women and children in palestine,that dosent make all jews bad or all muslims bad,all religions have black ship
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@dpapaioannow "before you mention muslims blowing up jews" -> is it written in the torah something like:
"Oh jewish people do not take the muslims and christians as friends"?
the "religion" (it's more political ideology) of islam makes it a point to separate outsiders and bring violence, it's a religion based on conquest and not making peace with outsiders:
Surah 5:51 "O believers do not take the Jews and Christians as friends...Allah indeed does not guide the wrongdoers"
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 well in the jewish talmud which is considered the holliest of all books according to jewish priests it says that its ok to have sex with a 3 year old child,it says that gentiles are more like animals and god put them here so that they can be slaves to the jews,it justifes murder,plunder,rape,extortion,falsewitness etc etc etc as long as they are put in use against a non jew,radical jews believe that only they have souls because they are the superior race "chosen by god"
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
Respond to this video...i agree with your argument that most religions have been misinterepented ver the centuries and ended up to be
more of a political and social control ideology...by the fact is that jewish religion was doing all those things(that you attribute to other religions of doing)...all along...since its conception
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@goemon9378 so relax...you're no better than the the one's you accuse ;)you're the same thing basically
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
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@dpapaioannow ")you're the same thing basically" -> so denying the validity of dogma (muslim, jew or otherwise) that includes pedophilia and rewards for death, wife beating, calling outsiders monkeys and pigs, and not making friends with non-people of the same religion is the "same thing" ...i see.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 yes its the same thing,because fundamentalist jews have similar believes,do you even know how many rabbis have been accused or sentenced for pedophilia?your last argument has no basis what so ever,you just come across as a narrowminded one point of view person...are you a crypto jew sympathizer?...sorry its not working...try harder ;)
dpapaioannow 1 year ago 2
@dpapaioannow lol...yes, everyone who points out that mohammed was a pedophile must be a "fundamentalist jew sympathizer." of course, by extension jews are monkeys and pigs according to muslims. muslim logic at it's finest. (it helps to read what i write)
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 i dont support either one who makes these claims about his fellow human beings...the quran dosent mention specifically say that jews or non muslims for that matter are pigs and monkeys(which the talmud does for ALL non jews,they call them animals amongst other "nice and peace loving stuff"),not all muslims are fundamentalist idiots and hate everyone who isnt a muslim,just like many non ultra orthodox jews...
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@dpapaioannow "quran dosent mention specifically say that jews or non muslims for that matter are pigs and monkeys" -> Surah 5:59-60 Say: O People of the Book, do you resent anything we do other than that we believe in. Allah and what has been revealed to us and what was revealed before, and that most of you are transgressors? Say: Shall I tell you about those who will get a worse punishment from Allah cursed and on whom He poured for His Wrath, transformed them into monkeys and swine..."
goemon9378 1 year ago
@dpapaioannow your lack of knowledge of your faith is showing...you are obviously a fundamentalist jew working for mossad trying to make muslims look bad. stop pretending you jew.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 you re not very creative and lack charm...you're trying to hard i guess(please dont copy that too) ;)
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@goemon9378 watch?v=isfwzgsVkYA watch?v=wF8RBKGxtKk watch?v=4_e7c1BrB58 watch?v=C7L7cJJ9Wc8&feature=related
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@dpapaioannow great thanks for confirming for me how religious belief in the imaginary causes so much bigotry and hatred in the world...but now i know you are really a jew making muslims look bad by calling everyone who disagrees with pedophile mohammed a jew. please stop pretending you jew, iyour jewishness is so obvious.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378
I feel sorry for you...
Vehan80107 1 year ago
@goemon9378 wrong again...that's your own little "extension" real muslims dont say these kind of bullshit,real peace loving jews dont say these bullshit about muslims either,you're just trying to mispresent things to appeear them to be as "facts" the way you see fit,ok...i'll rephrase,you seem to be a crypto orthodox zionist jew sympathizer holding an axe full of human blood in your hand and go ME? ZIONIST?ooohhh no no no,its the other guy's fault(zionist ultra orthodox jew logic at its finest)
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
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@dpapaioannow "that's your own little "extension" real muslims dont say these kind of bullshit," oh really?? i made this up all by myself?
/watch?v=5NvybWC6qic
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"you dont seem to be doing a very good job at hiding your real intentions" -> yeap i'm working for mossad (same muslim argument as the last guy). if you believe mohammed went to heaven on a flying horse, i guess you can make yourself believe anything with no logic.
goemon9378 1 year ago
@goemon9378 iam saying that because you dont seem to be doing a very good job at hiding your real intentions,basically you can be smelled from like 10 miles away...non pun intended ;)
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
Respond to this video... i think you are a miserable fool
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
where i can get the original audio (this qur'an recitation)...??
YandaSatria 1 year ago
Search in youtube "24 Fallacies of Muslims - Part 2" and part 1 and 3 for historical sources that proves that NT WAS NOT CORRUPTED. That Lord Jesus was not a mitrhaism myth. But an historical fact. Many pagans religions have many similarities, which makes me wonder if they didnot copy the Gospel when the Apostles went to preach them and later incorporated in their pagan religions. PEACE
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 The New Testament is a "false" book. It is written by an "Anti-Christ" & a self-proclaimed saint/apostle known as Paul, it includes 30-40 percent of his dogmas and self adaptions from the pagan religion called Mithra. In addition, the gospels still contradict it's own books as well as verses from the OT and God's revelations. Read over my comments and comprehend them. Christianity is a false religion. May you find true salvation in Islam, the only true & final word from God. Peace.
993ironman 1 year ago
Mohammad PBUH raped and slaughtered kabeelas after kabeelas of Jews and raped their innocent little girls in the name of marrying them. I think Mohammad had no right to talk about Jews and Christians, because he only derides them after all the gory crimes against them.
Anujnoor 1 year ago
Well, here you go taking it personal and insulting. you guys when confronted with reality show what you really are. by now You are willing to cut my head if you were in front of me. I asked you 3 times now to provide me access so to send you my historic facts . You are so willing to downgrade ancient religions, Manuscripts and beliefs, to make your religion the best and only "FALSE TRUTH". happy serving evil?. peaceful muslims? LOL.
lisheva1 1 year ago
There is also a GENOCIDE in SUDAN DAFUR BEING CARRYING BY muslims. But somehow the ONU and the WORLD are blind to see. Another fruit of the iSLAM RELIGION. SHAME ON CATHOLICS, SHAME ON ISLAM, THE BIGGEST POISON TO HUMANITY. wHEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND CATHOLICISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. TRUE CHRISTIANS HAVE EXISTED ALWAYS. ARE NOT AND NEVER WERE PART OF THE CATHOLIC RELIGION. THEY WERE MURDERED BECAUSE OF THEIR DENIAL TO ACCEPT THE CATHOLICISM AS THE ONLY CHRISTIAN CHURCH
lisheva1 1 year ago
Have you listened the latest NEWS? Muslims declaring war and burning Christians houses in Egypt. Lord Jesus said Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? .. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil FRUIT of ISLAM. And this is the Right religion? is EVIL murder religion
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 Look how this typical "bigot" Christian so easily changes the topic & brings in contemporary crisis of Muslims around the world. What else can you do besides using derogatory remarks, false assertions & baseless claims to describe Islam? You "FAIL" miserably. The fact to the matter remains, you will rot in hell like a sinner & an anti-Christ. "Repent."
I did not come here to listen to your hypocritical rants on Islam. You fail to even debate like a educated being. I am done with you.
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman So I should listen all your rubbish about your imaginary Christian-Pagan believes? I have shown you the RADICAL diferences, but you just ignore. You are in a circle boy, you start and finish at the same point. You muslims cannot accept what your prophet was, and you can find this info in your hadith and the quran, is explicit. Or you just close your eyes and ignore. If I bring all the evil deeds your religion does is to show you, such religion cannot COME FROM GOD.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman You TWIST AND PERVERT the Verses from the Bible, taking even PARBLES and ILUSTRATIONS. You dont even know the diference between Christianity and Catholicism boy, I strongly suggest you to READ what Lord Jesus said: 37Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’b 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. See? LOVE, FORGIVENESS. SOMETHING UNKNOWN IN ISLAM
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman Besides I dont fail to explain, you need to research more and stop believing your CONSPIRATION THEORIES. NT is corrupted? NT have foretold many prophecies. NT can give you exact dates, about history. If you affirm NT is corrupted is because Mahoma said so, you dont think by yourself. I have shown you your prophet lying about the worshiP to Mary. I TOLD YOU WE DONT WORSHIP MARY, SHE WAS A HUMAN MOTHER OF JESUS. AND IF CATHOLICS DOES SHAME ON THEM. POINT
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman ONLY GOD IS THE JUDGE AND HE CAN CONDEM to HELL. You as me are nobody to decide who will go to hell and who not. You really blaspheme taking the place to God. I wish you to be saved, not to go to HELL, this what make the diferences between you and me. You wish me bad, I wish you good. What I have said is not hypocrital is reality. You insist your religion is the TRUE? show me its GOOD DEEDS, because I only see murder and intolerance around the WORLD.
lisheva1 1 year ago
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@993ironman Can you add me as "Friend" I have prepared a letter to you.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 Read over my answers & stop making baseless assertions. All you are doing is creating your own defensive opinions on the Bible, i have spoken to countless Church ministers, university professors & bible theologians, so stop being a hypocrite. "Accept" the truth, Christianity is a "FALSE" religion. Do you even realize that your comments have nothing to do with anything i have stated before? I don't care what you do with your false faith, as far as the matter goes, you can go to "hell."
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman Oh boy Here I go again: Early CHRISTIANS NOTICED THE SIMILARITES, Paul talked about this perversion that was going to infiltrate to the church.Jesus foretold this. We know the names of these people simon Magus the funder of Nicolaits [Mistraism] in ROME, the Bible called him the MAN of SIN. There is also A SIMILIRATY BEWTEEN HORUS and Krishna from Induism and Jesus. Vatican the Catholics dont represent Christianity. I have prepared a letter to give you historical proofs.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman You are not discovering the black point. This was pointed out centuries ago by real Christians. Make me a favor and listen the 6 videos in youtube Look for "Revelation 17 Whore Babylon Antichrist - Part 1" Google whore of Babylon and you will see thousands of Christians denuncing this.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman See Surah says that you must believe in the Bible. 29:46 And dispute ye not with the People of the Book... but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." 29:47 And thus (it is) that We have sent down the Book to thee. So the People of the Book believe therein, as also do some of these (pagan Arabs): and none but Unbelievers reject our signs. Obey Quran, BELIEVE
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 There is only "one" God and "Muhammad" is his final seal of all prophets / messengers. The "Qur'an" is the final revelation from God to mankind. May you find the true salvation to Islam and walk astray from the Mithra adopted pagan religion by Paul. The New Testament has been corrupted. Thus God sends a new revelation. God is all wise, all-knowing, all-just. All praises be to him.
993ironman 1 year ago
ANd you really believe Mahoma a raper, pedophile, murder, genocide, adulter, is the final prophet? All prophets have been an example of MORALITY and DECENCY, Mahoma is the opossite, he violated all COMMANDEMENTS GOD GAVE TO MOISES. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear...
26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; Sorry boy your Mahoma came from the dessert, he was an orphan, abandoned by his Mother, acting wrongly since a child. A lost soul.
lisheva1 1 year ago
Christianity is a "false" hybrid pagan religion. May the true followers of Christ find salvation towards Islam, God's final revelation for mankind.
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman But Paul didnot write the Gospels where exists the similarites with the Mithraism! Now not only exist similarites with Mithaism, but Budish with Krisna, and many many religions around the world. Is posible the pagans religions copy the recit from the NT. And not the other way. Remember Jesus Apostles [witness Jesus] went around the world preaching the Gospel of Jesus, Paul was not the only Apostle! He founded many Churches that doesnot exist today. But Christianity remains.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 The history is all there, most importantly read over my comments and learn something instead of blabbering typicality of your ignorant opinions which do not come with any sources. You have to realize this, i am not interested in your opinion, my arguments came with proof, so where is yours? I am not interested in the typical lies, bigotry and hypocrisy of a Christian. I know you Christians very well, you will not fool anyone in this world, your agenda will soon be exposed. I promise.
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman Search in youtube "24 Fallacies of Muslims - Part 2" for historical references and proofs. I told you 3 times now. BTW do you know that 600 muslims convert to Christian Faith each hour? even there is Al-Jazeera interview about this, and muslims reconized this fact. This must be shocking for you, as Islam is the "super and final TRUE" They convert because they have dreams and visions of Jesus. But as many you will say, that these are lies.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman wwwDOTpeshittaDOTorg ORIGINAL ARAMAIC 4 FIRST BOOKS written by the apostles of Jesus, eye witnesses. Paul was not even Christian yet, The books were almost completed.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman Watch this : "wwwDOTyoutube.comBACKSLASHwatch?v=xdVnILalpeo"
lisheva1 1 year ago
@993ironman Hi ironboy do you know the Quran actually testified to the validity of the Bible and repeatedly said so (see Sura 4:47; 2: 41, 91; 20:133; 29:46). Accordingly, Muslims can not argue that Christians and Jews corrupted their Bible before the birth of Islam! uuuupppss!! lol
lisheva1 1 year ago
Besides I dont care about the Pagan Mithology and Christianity. I trust the Bible because ITS PROPHECIES HAS BEEN FULLFILED. And this makes the Bible Trusful in regards of the similarites of ancient paganism. Google Bible and Science Google, Bible and Archeology, google Bible and History. Besides how ilogical that Christianity is the only religion that still STANDS!
lisheva1 1 year ago
Also as the Bible has been proved to be arqueological trustful and historically proved, also is a prophetic book. The Bible foretold: The raise and decline of ancient Empires, the Mosque in Jerusalem in 688 DC and the raise of armies of Islam, USA creation in 1776, Israel creation in 1948 and 1967, the battle of Tours, among others and the amazing thing of this is that dates came exactly at time. This showing that the GOD of the Bible is in control of times. I can proved you this.
lisheva1 1 year ago
@lisheva1 The actual numbers are a relatively trivial detail, but these examples highlight an important point - the "UNRELIABILITY" of the Gospels concerning the life and teachings of Jesus and therefore their unsuitability as a "basis" for doctrine. False, fake, man-meddled, changed, to find a better way to have it accepted by the pagans. The Romans during 1st to 4th & on ce AD were observing Mithraism, a pagan religion quite similar to Paul's New Testament.
993ironman 1 year ago