Can someone clear this up for me: I was told that if you sight in your scope at 100yards and zero it 1.5" high, you will be bang on at 200yards. If this is true and I`m shooting at something that is 400 yards. would I not just add 1.5" x 2 = 3". So if I aim 3 inches high on my kill zone, I should be spot on. Am I correct? Instead of messing with the turrets. I shoot a Savage Axis 22-250 with a Bushnell 3x9x40 scope.
@darcy32171 The only thing wrong with that is, is your gun exact make and model as the person's who told you, are you using the EXACT ammunition, and are the conditions spot-on to what he described?
Simplified: 1 MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards. Most scopes are adjustable at 1/4" MOA per click. That means every click will move your crosshairs 1/4 inch at 100 yards, 1/2" at 200 yards, 3/4 inch at 300 yards, 1 inch at 400 yards, etc. This is over simplified, but it's the basic concept.
im confused on a ballistics chart, i was looking at diffrent loads and i saw the bullet arc you need to use to hit your target but why does it have a minus sign in front of a few of the measurments? like -12.6 im confused as hell
@mikegribbins @mikegribbins that is because it is dropping- minus line of site. most experienced hunters will site for M.P.B. which is usually + 3.5" at 100 yrds or +1 mil at 100 yrds or +3.5 moa at 100. this gives them the ability to point and shoot out to 300 yrds with no adjustments. if you look at the chart it reads +3.5 moa@100, 300 or so will be 0, 450 will be -3.5 moa exc (again rifle specific)
@air2142 dont be fooled with "ballistic drop reticles" they are for posers and wanna bees. they are caliber, loading, elevation temperature and barometric pressure specific. deviate from any of these and the turret will be wrong or require a new specific turret. to many people buy these and think they can actually hit something at 800 yrds! puke!
@BkBeast23 what I dont like is that bdc turrets are for people who dont want to take the time to learn the whys and whats about long range shooting. alot of these people do not understand the effects of elevation and ballistic coefficiency and other effects and have the attitude that just dialing a range on a turret or holding a preset line on a reticle is going to work. to be able to shoot these ranges takes skill practice and MATH. Bdc are for those who try to short cut the necessities.
This is brilliant, thank you for this, as a frame of reference i using a shooter ready moa/mil training program and before even AFTER watching dvds like magpul art of the precision rifle i improved slightly but now i have complete understanding on how to use 1/4moa on a mil dot with a first focal plane optic, i am now instead of having my elevation off by several minutes, all i have to do now is make my wind calls! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I think i got it maybe.... If my gun is zeroed for 100 yards and im shooting at a target 300 yards away I would move my elevation up 12 clicks? And hold right on it?
great video for those of us who are not only confused about the MOA system but also makes scope buying much easier. Once you get the basic principle out of the way you can now determine what type of scope he wants to buy so much easier. great stuff
MY ZEIS W/1/4 MOA IS ZEROED @ 200 YDS. MY TARGET IS @ 300 YDS. @ THAT DISTANCE MY BULLET DROPS 7.5 INCHES. HOW MANY MOAs OR CLICKS DO I DIAL TO HIT MY 300 YD TARGET?
@183RAC do you have an iphone if so there is an app called bullet drop calculator it will tell you because I do not know how many MOA per click it is.
@183RAC actual moa is 1.047 multiply that by 3 for 3.141 and that is what each moa is at that distance. that is 7.5 divided by 3.141 which is 2.39moa. also 9.5 clicks. hope this helps.
but it will be good enough wont it i just want to hit samething about 300-500 yards away im using a 3006 with 180gr ammo idk the fps i have to get a box to see.
my brain is working now lol this shit is ez ...........say im shooting at a target 400 yards away and im shooting 8 inches low and i know that 1 MOA at this distance is about 4 inches therefore i need to come up 2 MOA which is 8 clicks up and i got my zero at 400 yards.
@treverlid87 in a word no. it depends on your velocity and coeffeicent of your bullet and atmosperics to know what and how much dropp you need to allow for at longer ranges
fuck yes! 8-D ok so is this right too ......i know that 1 MOA at 100 yards is 4 clicks, therefore 1 inch, so if i was to turn the elevation 360° would that be 60 MOA in other words 60 inches = 240 clicks in 360° ...............i just want to be on the right path,Oh and thx alot im a dumb ass when it comes to math
look i know im a hassle but i really want to know this so tell me if im right iv got a scope thats 1 click at 100 yards =1/4" so does 4 clicks = 1 MOA therefore 1 MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards?
is this right ,i watched other vids and i think i got it, is this right say 100 yards 1/4 ...................1 MOA is 4 inches so 4 inches on my elevation is 60 clicks is that right
@1967spud what a 1/4 moa would be at these distances. 100-1/4 200-? 300-? 400-? 500-? 600-? Please put it in this format ,it would make it ez for me.Oh and thx
@1967spud i have my scope zero at 100 yards 1 click is 1/4 at 100 yards ok, now i want to know is what is 200 ,300 ,400 ,500 yards plz help i just need those numbers just put the numbers next to the yards to make it ez for me im so bad at math lol
@treverlid87 not really sure what you are asking/ do you mean what are your drops for those ranges or what a 1/4 moa would be at those distances. these are different questions
@1967spud ok thanks heaps mate.. and another thing i dont get is how do you dope/dial on your scope for example 11.8 the .8 i dont get wat is the value of it..
so if im zeroed at 100 yard , my target is at 500 yards i half to allow 5moa to get a zero at 500 yards ??? is this right or am i confusing myself even more??
@TheSharpshooter2011 Youre nearly right but this is what happens with scenario. You've got a 100 us zero now to have a 500 us zero from that. You need to know the bullets speed and cieffieceny to work out how much the bullet us likely to drop from the line of sight at that distance. Once you know that in moa you simply add that to your original zero to get a give hundred zero. It's better explained in my upload about working out drops. I'll get a link for you and post it here in a moment
@marineah34 If you scope has graduationsd in the reticle there can be a differance in distances betwean graduations but 1 moa will always be 1.047 inches at a 100 yards what ever your perceived magnification you are using
@marineah34 MOA's never change. But your formula will for judging range. If your using the mil-dot reticle to judge range, you have to be at 10x, (The most common). I believe that is the least it magnifies when looking through your scope. You take your reading, do your formula to figure your range, zoom back in and dope your scope to the range you calculated.
@marineah34 For example, your scope is zeroed @ 100 yds, you range your target to be 300 yds. If 1 click = 1/4" @ 100 yds, you would need to make 2 full turns of the top turret to go up. But you would also need to know your ballistics for bullet drop to get more precise, I used .22 LR for example. I believe it is 1 full turn for every 100 yds. after 100 yd. zero.
there is no exact formulas of drop? it all varies on the way your rifle fires your brand of amunition? so say the exmple you give im zerod at 100 then at 200 the point of impact will be an low from the origonal 0 mark. em but im guess some brands of rounds may only drop half an inch at 200 yrds. im sory if im sounding confused because i realy am. im numericaly dislesic, wouldyou sujest to me just to get to know my round intamatly and record my drops? and do away with all the turrate twisting?
@death0breederthanks for the comment and ill take 1 point at a timeif i may. firstly there are formulas for calculating drop each calculation takes in to facter seveal things i.e coefficent velocity and mass 2ndly i never said that all brands of ammo will drop at the same rate, i was only giving exapmles and jsut remember that once a bullet leaves a gun barrel its dropping all the time from the horizontal, this is why need to aim over
@1967spud lastlly you ask wether you need to get to know your rifle and how it performs , of course you should and you shuld get real time drop figures for your gun/ammo combo then you cn use the figures for either dailing in to shots or hold ing over
hope this clears up your misunderstandings atb 1967spud
Can someone clear this up for me: I was told that if you sight in your scope at 100yards and zero it 1.5" high, you will be bang on at 200yards. If this is true and I`m shooting at something that is 400 yards. would I not just add 1.5" x 2 = 3". So if I aim 3 inches high on my kill zone, I should be spot on. Am I correct? Instead of messing with the turrets. I shoot a Savage Axis 22-250 with a Bushnell 3x9x40 scope.
darcy32171 1 week ago
@darcy32171 The only thing wrong with that is, is your gun exact make and model as the person's who told you, are you using the EXACT ammunition, and are the conditions spot-on to what he described?
93daniboo 5 days ago
trust no 1 ,question everything! nuff said, hide while they're not looking.
dsloan69 2 weeks ago
Why does the turret say up with an arrow facing counter clockwise but you say clockwise will raise it. Do you mean raise the barrel?
dougsines 1 month ago
Simplified: 1 MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards. Most scopes are adjustable at 1/4" MOA per click. That means every click will move your crosshairs 1/4 inch at 100 yards, 1/2" at 200 yards, 3/4 inch at 300 yards, 1 inch at 400 yards, etc. This is over simplified, but it's the basic concept.
BassmanSW 1 month ago 5
@BassmanSW true
1967spud 1 month ago
im confused on a ballistics chart, i was looking at diffrent loads and i saw the bullet arc you need to use to hit your target but why does it have a minus sign in front of a few of the measurments? like -12.6 im confused as hell
mikegribbins 1 month ago
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air2142 1 month ago
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@mikegribbins @mikegribbins that is because it is dropping- minus line of site. most experienced hunters will site for M.P.B. which is usually + 3.5" at 100 yrds or +1 mil at 100 yrds or +3.5 moa at 100. this gives them the ability to point and shoot out to 300 yrds with no adjustments. if you look at the chart it reads +3.5 moa@100, 300 or so will be 0, 450 will be -3.5 moa exc (again rifle specific)
air2142 1 month ago
@air2142 dont be fooled with "ballistic drop reticles" they are for posers and wanna bees. they are caliber, loading, elevation temperature and barometric pressure specific. deviate from any of these and the turret will be wrong or require a new specific turret. to many people buy these and think they can actually hit something at 800 yrds! puke!
air2142 1 month ago
@air2142 SO YOU DON'T LIKE THE NIKON PROSTAFF BDC?
BkBeast23 3 weeks ago
@BkBeast23 what I dont like is that bdc turrets are for people who dont want to take the time to learn the whys and whats about long range shooting. alot of these people do not understand the effects of elevation and ballistic coefficiency and other effects and have the attitude that just dialing a range on a turret or holding a preset line on a reticle is going to work. to be able to shoot these ranges takes skill practice and MATH. Bdc are for those who try to short cut the necessities.
air2142 3 weeks ago
@air2142 i think people are knid of sucked into some of these beliefs by the advertisements pushing these types of systems
air2142 3 weeks ago
@mikegribbins The -12.6 is telling you that the bullets point of impact is 12.6 inches BELOW point of aim at that particular distance.
BassmanSW 1 month ago
@BassmanSW yes thaniks for that you beat me to typing it in
1967spud 1 month ago
This is brilliant, thank you for this, as a frame of reference i using a shooter ready moa/mil training program and before even AFTER watching dvds like magpul art of the precision rifle i improved slightly but now i have complete understanding on how to use 1/4moa on a mil dot with a first focal plane optic, i am now instead of having my elevation off by several minutes, all i have to do now is make my wind calls! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
ThePurcy 1 month ago
All my volume are wide open and I can't here him.
thatrottenkid 1 month ago
see i was tought about zeroing scopes for hunting purposes and i was told to zero at 25 so your good up to 300 yards with a center mass hold
JUSTANOTHERDAY333333 2 months ago
@JUSTANOTHERDAY333333 its called maximum point blank and it depends on velocity and site height some mpb's are 25 others out to 40
air2142 1 month ago
I think i got it maybe.... If my gun is zeroed for 100 yards and im shooting at a target 300 yards away I would move my elevation up 12 clicks? And hold right on it?
WhitetailHunter171 2 months ago
@WhitetailHunter171 depends on the drop of your bullets as well as once you fire your rifle the bullet is dropping all the way
1967spud 2 months ago
@WhitetailHunter171 Also the density of the air, heat, and so on and so on. But at that range you shouldn't have to worry about it to much
BenningtonAirsoft 1 month ago
great video for those of us who are not only confused about the MOA system but also makes scope buying much easier. Once you get the basic principle out of the way you can now determine what type of scope he wants to buy so much easier. great stuff
MASTERNCS 3 months ago
MY ZEIS W/1/4 MOA IS ZEROED @ 200 YDS. MY TARGET IS @ 300 YDS. @ THAT DISTANCE MY BULLET DROPS 7.5 INCHES. HOW MANY MOAs OR CLICKS DO I DIAL TO HIT MY 300 YD TARGET?
183RAC 3 months ago
@183RAC do you have an iphone if so there is an app called bullet drop calculator it will tell you because I do not know how many MOA per click it is.
woodlandds 2 months ago
@woodlandds bullet flight fte is much better. it does everything
air2142 1 month ago
@183RAC actual moa is 1.047 multiply that by 3 for 3.141 and that is what each moa is at that distance. that is 7.5 divided by 3.141 which is 2.39moa. also 9.5 clicks. hope this helps.
oglejust 2 months ago
@oglejust it does help a little bit, you should do a video to you know.
whoap132 2 months ago
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Is the Sightron SIII 10-50 X 60 lr mil dot a good scope? I was looking into getting a long range scope.
SequelFinalNight 4 months ago
So I have a scope and have figured out the minute of angle principlal, now all I need is a rangefinder right ? lol
paininthe10 4 months ago
@paininthe10 correct or a range finding scope
1967spud 4 months ago
@paininthe10
look up milldot reticles buddy and you will find your answer, save money, and become a more knowledgeable shooter!
7054Euan 1 month ago
@paininthe10 with an moa reticle or a milaradian reticle you can figure the range if you know the general size of the target
air2142 1 month ago
@air2142 true
1967spud 1 month ago
but it will be good enough wont it i just want to hit samething about 300-500 yards away im using a 3006 with 180gr ammo idk the fps i have to get a box to see.
treverlid87 4 months ago
my brain is working now lol this shit is ez ...........say im shooting at a target 400 yards away and im shooting 8 inches low and i know that 1 MOA at this distance is about 4 inches therefore i need to come up 2 MOA which is 8 clicks up and i got my zero at 400 yards.
treverlid87 4 months ago
@treverlid87 in a word no. it depends on your velocity and coeffeicent of your bullet and atmosperics to know what and how much dropp you need to allow for at longer ranges
1967spud 4 months ago
@1967spud search for my upload on long range shooting itll explain it to you , but im not keeping my fingers crossed
1967spud 4 months ago
fuck yes! 8-D ok so is this right too ......i know that 1 MOA at 100 yards is 4 clicks, therefore 1 inch, so if i was to turn the elevation 360° would that be 60 MOA in other words 60 inches = 240 clicks in 360° ...............i just want to be on the right path,Oh and thx alot im a dumb ass when it comes to math
treverlid87 4 months ago
@treverlid87 YES if your turrets move 60 moa per 1 compltee turn but i very much doubt they do in fact i garantee they dont
what scope have you got
1967spud 4 months ago
look i know im a hassle but i really want to know this so tell me if im right iv got a scope thats 1 click at 100 yards =1/4" so does 4 clicks = 1 MOA therefore 1 MOA is 1 inch at 100 yards?
treverlid87 4 months ago
@treverlid87 YES YES YES By FUCK YOUVE GOT IT
1967spud 4 months ago
is this right ,i watched other vids and i think i got it, is this right say 100 yards 1/4 ...................1 MOA is 4 inches so 4 inches on my elevation is 60 clicks is that right
treverlid87 4 months ago
@treverlid87 id give up mate and buy an air rifle because the more you think about it the more confused you are getting
1967spud 4 months ago
i dont beleive you can be this thick but ill humour you wany way
100=1/4 200=1/2 300=3/4 400=1 etc etc but these are not drops for your zero all these are 1/4 moa at set ditances
1967spud 4 months ago
@1967spud what a 1/4 moa would be at these distances. 100-1/4 200-? 300-? 400-? 500-? 600-? Please put it in this format ,it would make it ez for me.Oh and thx
treverlid87 4 months ago
@1967spud i have my scope zero at 100 yards 1 click is 1/4 at 100 yards ok, now i want to know is what is 200 ,300 ,400 ,500 yards plz help i just need those numbers just put the numbers next to the yards to make it ez for me im so bad at math lol
treverlid87 4 months ago
@treverlid87 not really sure what you are asking/ do you mean what are your drops for those ranges or what a 1/4 moa would be at those distances. these are different questions
1967spud 4 months ago
i have a question i have a zeiss scope and it hase 1/3 moa..
i would like to know how to convert 1/4 to 1/3moa is ther a formular or somethint. thanks..
rubberduck182 5 months ago 4
@rubberduck182 times by four then devide by three
1967spud 4 months ago
@1967spud ok thanks heaps mate.. and another thing i dont get is how do you dope/dial on your scope for example 11.8 the .8 i dont get wat is the value of it..
rubberduck182 4 months ago
@rubberduck182 oh and is it (4x MOA divide by 3).............. like 561 yardes = 12.1moa (12.1x4 divide 3) = 16.133333 is that click's or some thing
rubberduck182 4 months ago
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rubberduck182 4 months ago
@rubberduck182 Basically, there are theoretically three parts to a whole in 1/3. So at 100 yds, 1/3", 200 yds 2/3", 300yds 1"
93daniboo 5 days ago
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rubberduck182 5 months ago
so if im zeroed at 100 yard , my target is at 500 yards i half to allow 5moa to get a zero at 500 yards ??? is this right or am i confusing myself even more??
TheSharpshooter2011 5 months ago
@TheSharpshooter2011 Youre nearly right but this is what happens with scenario. You've got a 100 us zero now to have a 500 us zero from that. You need to know the bullets speed and cieffieceny to work out how much the bullet us likely to drop from the line of sight at that distance. Once you know that in moa you simply add that to your original zero to get a give hundred zero. It's better explained in my upload about working out drops. I'll get a link for you and post it here in a moment
1967spud 5 months ago
So whats the difference if your scope is zoomed at 4x vs 10x? Will you have to read your moa differently? Thank you
marineah34 5 months ago
@marineah34 If you scope has graduationsd in the reticle there can be a differance in distances betwean graduations but 1 moa will always be 1.047 inches at a 100 yards what ever your perceived magnification you are using
1967spud 5 months ago
@marineah34 MOA's never change. But your formula will for judging range. If your using the mil-dot reticle to judge range, you have to be at 10x, (The most common). I believe that is the least it magnifies when looking through your scope. You take your reading, do your formula to figure your range, zoom back in and dope your scope to the range you calculated.
duane2072 5 months ago
@marineah34 For example, your scope is zeroed @ 100 yds, you range your target to be 300 yds. If 1 click = 1/4" @ 100 yds, you would need to make 2 full turns of the top turret to go up. But you would also need to know your ballistics for bullet drop to get more precise, I used .22 LR for example. I believe it is 1 full turn for every 100 yds. after 100 yd. zero.
duane2072 5 months ago
1 MOA is 1/60 of a 1 degree angle. ^_^
brightube 5 months ago
@brightube yes thats a better way to say it thanks
1967spud 5 months ago
@brightube thats it
1967spud 5 months ago
I got it now. Thanks.
brightube 5 months ago
1 MOA is 1/60 of a complete circle which is 360 degrees.
brightube 5 months ago
@brightube 1 moa is 1/60 of 1 degree and there are 360 in a complete circle
1967spud 5 months ago
diopter till gevär.
Zidd1800 6 months ago
@Zidd1800 non
1967spud 5 months ago
i do not get this
MrHellaAzn 6 months ago
@MrHellaAzn what dont you get?
1967spud 6 months ago
just thought I was getting my head around it and then I watched this and seen there was more to it, I'm even more confused now lol
lainy1054 6 months ago
there is no exact formulas of drop? it all varies on the way your rifle fires your brand of amunition? so say the exmple you give im zerod at 100 then at 200 the point of impact will be an low from the origonal 0 mark. em but im guess some brands of rounds may only drop half an inch at 200 yrds. im sory if im sounding confused because i realy am. im numericaly dislesic, wouldyou sujest to me just to get to know my round intamatly and record my drops? and do away with all the turrate twisting?
death0breeder 8 months ago
@death0breederthanks for the comment and ill take 1 point at a timeif i may. firstly there are formulas for calculating drop each calculation takes in to facter seveal things i.e coefficent velocity and mass 2ndly i never said that all brands of ammo will drop at the same rate, i was only giving exapmles and jsut remember that once a bullet leaves a gun barrel its dropping all the time from the horizontal, this is why need to aim over
1967spud 8 months ago
@1967spud lastlly you ask wether you need to get to know your rifle and how it performs , of course you should and you shuld get real time drop figures for your gun/ammo combo then you cn use the figures for either dailing in to shots or hold ing over
hope this clears up your misunderstandings atb 1967spud
1967spud 8 months ago
@1967spud yeah i know that you never said all brands are the same i was just trying to wrap my had around the whole thing. thank you for o your help.
death0breeder 8 months ago
nice explanation. like the blue green line chart
Homehous 8 months ago
@Homehous thanks lol im not an artist as you can see lol
1967spud 4 months ago
excellent
intolead 9 months ago
excellent ! ............ thanks !
SimilkameenSlayer1 10 months ago
Thanks for the vid... You did a good job!
brutaltlr 10 months ago
Hi,
I bought a nightforce scope 5.5-22x56 NXS with turret ZeroStop and I'd like to know how to set it and how it works.
For 600 yards, the bullet drops of 58.2 inches and gives 9.7 M.O.A.
I understand the 9 but what the .7 means? Does it means 7 clicks?
Can you help me with that please?
Thanks a lot and have a great day!
Daniel Cormier
kimmymaggie 11 months ago
@kimmymaggie .25 is a 1/4 moa @ 100 yds so .7 would be almost 3 clicks (.75)with 9.7 x 4 = 38.8 or 39 clicks of elevation...i hope im right!?
phoenix1916 9 months ago
@phoenix1916 yove got it
1967spud 4 months ago
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kimmymaggie 11 months ago
screw this im sticking with clicks
MrBobsrevenge 1 year ago
@MrBobsrevenge but its the same as click or more actually clicks are some times measurement of moa
1967spud 4 months ago
Hi Spud, great video, informative and well presented!
Regards,Sprags
SpRaGs243 1 year ago
thanks for the explaniation of MOA
wil129 1 year ago 2
@wil129 thanks for the comments
1967spud 1 year ago