The only winners in war are the banking families who loan governments money at high interest. Here in Britain we're still paying off our debt for the civil war let alone all the wars in the last 200 years. Rothschild family have us by the balls they fund both sides every time.
I bet all the people arguing on here only think they know the History of the wars because they know a when they started and ended and who Hitler was. Stop arguing like children, every country and the soldiers who fought were equally as brave and they all deserve respect. Even the Germans, because contrary to popular belief not all Germans wanted to fight for the Nazis. however the Nazi death squads deserve no respect at all.
I am TURK. I am proud of it. We kicked your ass. I have never seen any british empire flag over us. Have some milk and then when you guys are ready, We will beat you again. It is our habit ...........
@buraksevic That's right, you are Turk. Before the first world war you were Ottoman. What happened to your great Ottoman Empire? It was destroyed, which is why now you are Ottoman no longer and just a Turk.
@buraksevic Tell me, if you beat the British so badly then why did you lose the war and every single inch of the Ottoman Empire? Stick to killing Kurdish civilians, it is about the only thing the Turks can manage on their own …
@acemvari1 The funny thing is, we lost Gallipoli because we failed to plan it well and we were focused on fighting the Germans. You claim that this was a great victory for Turkey. If you think you were stronger than the British Empire, why is it that we completely annihlated you the following year? We didn't just beat you. We humiliated you. We utterly destroyed the weak and pathetic Ottoman Empire.
@buraksevic Perhaps you don't understand. There is no real history in America. It's all bullshit propaganda over there. Perhaps you didn't know that? I read real history.
@TheLiberalKnight Absoloure Nonsense.The british had every interest in maintining the Ottoman Empire.THe Turks fought off the brits (and greeks and french and so on) to build Turkey , after they chased away the Sultan who was weak and used by the British.
@OsmanOsmanHan They wanted to maintain the Ottoman Empire because otherwise it would fall into the hands of the Russians. That's the uncomfortable truth the Turks don't like to admit. From 1700 onwards they were little more than puppets to France and Britain, deeply indebted and militarily weak. Gallopoli is hailed as a great Ottoman success, but it only failed thanks to bad British strategic planning and logistics.
@TheLiberalKnight Militarily weak because of never stopping wars for hundreds of years, and the cunning politics Britain is known for throughout the world.Nevertheless you were never able to colonise or destroy the Turkish nation,despite your hidden agendas and provoced instabilities within the Ottoman Empire.Gallipoli was lost because you fought against Turks, no other reason.2 British Generals and Churchill had to resign because of the humiliations we gave you there.
@OsmanOsmanHan We never had the intention to colonize Turkey, you idiot. Our colonization priorities were in central Asia and Africa.
Nope, bad planning lost Gallapoli. Saying it was thanks to Turkish strength is as bullshit and saying gravity doesn't exist. It doesn't make sense that the richest and most powerful country on earth could be defeated by a weak, bankrupt and barbaric country. If that were true, why were did we annihilate your entire empire with ease?
Lacrimosa + Gallipoli = Epic sadness...ANZACS your ancestors rest in peace with ours.What an unnecessary war and waste of young lives.At least we can look back on our history and try to make sure this won't happen again.
it was a sad day for NZ a few years back when the British Royals thanked all the commonwealth for their suppourt in both worldwars and completely forgot to mention NZ :-(
I see alot of attacks happening and arguments about who was right/wrong. No one was either, they were all doing what they thought was right for their countries both the Anzacs and the Turks. All those men were brave and courageous and they all had the same hopes and fears and the same dreams for their lives, many of whom never got to experience after this terrible war. Be proud of all of them, no matter where we are from, they all fought for our safety and our futures. And here we all go again.
From what I have heard from the Trenches, The Turks were actually very honorable folks. In a way, despite always killing each other, The Turks and Australians were like competitive rivals in more of a friendly way,
I once even heard that the Turks and the Aussies used the dummies they used to draw fire, to have shooting contests with. If a paticular side won, they would chuck over cigarettes and rations to the other trench as a prize.
Gallipoli was a big fuck up all round - every country involved suffered greatly.
As a Brit though I'm happy to concede that on the western front Australian soldiers displayed their ability and bravery time and time again. They were among the very best and a credit to their nation and to the Commonwealth.
@TheSmithDorian hey mate, dont forget the kiwis, we saved your asses plenty of times during the desert wars of 1941-1945, especially when we halted one of rommels advances in 1942, we also took part in El- Alamein, yet we always are forgotten :(
Not forgotten by me. I'm not an authority on WW2 but in WW1 the Kiwis actions in Palestine and Messines were outstanding.
In the words of British General / Field Marshall Allenby (who didn't dish out praise lightly): "Nothing daunted these intrepid fighters: to them nothing was impossible"
Btw my Great-Grandfather was an English medic attached to ANZAC during the Gallipoli landings and up until the evacuation. -Sgt. Thomas Turner Fawley-
All of you Turks pleading that us English were oppressors read this. We only wanted to resupply Russia by travelling through the Dardanelles, however, you refused and attacked cargo ships. Also, you allied with Austria-Hungary and Germany who WERE the real Imperialists who started the war by declaring war on little Serbia. So were you really a helpless little victim? I mean for Fs sake the Germans built your defenses. Or planned them anyways...
Thats bullshit, the Ottomans and the Russians have been enemies for centuries. The only resupply the Russians were getting were guns, cannons and ammunition that would irrefutably be used against the Ottomans or their allies, the Germans.
The British (and French) could not hope to win a war with Germany, I mean for F's sakes, the U.S. saved your ass's in both World Wars!
@MrDesiballer The US saved us? in world war 1, the Americans sent a few companies and were in the war for a couple of months. Mostly placed in the midst of British or French units to gain experience. In world war 2, i respect the role that the US played, but, you didn't save us, when we won the Battle of Britain, any chance of a German invasion of Britain was destroyed. Also, how did Vietnam go? I hate ignorant Americans like you, you embarass your good country!
Your comment isnt even relevant. You claim that England didnt do anything except "supply" Russia. What kind of supplies do you think countries send to each other in times of war, toys? They were shipping weapons, ammunition, and items of military importance. Of course the Turks are going to stop the English from supplying their enemy, regardless of its contents.
If the US gave "supplies" to the Nazi's in WW2, you think the British would let them?
What...? The US gave the USSR weapons and tanks, and if the German Army fought on one front, instead of two, which only could have happened with the US's entrance in the war, I assure you thing would be different. Though im glad it werent so, and im not discounting the USSR's part in the war.
@MrDesiballer "if the German Army fought on one front, instead of two"
Lol !!!
From june 1941 up to june 1944 there was ONE FRONT in Europe, e.i. Germans vs. Russians. And Russians destroyed 70% of German army, and German allies too: Romanians, Italians, Hungarians, Croatians, Bulgarians, Slovaks as well as volonteers from Spain and Sweden.
And Americano-Brittish troops mixed up in the Battle of the Bulge (Dec.1944 – Jan.1945) and almost lost war but Russians saved them again.
@Idealist2011 I am British and I agree with this man. Russia won WW2. It was Russia that really defeated Germany, not the Americans. The only regret is that the communists were in power rather than the Tsars.
Please remeber that the USMC studied this campaingn and from the hard lessons learned here developed the Amphibious Doctrine that won the War in the Paciific.
To the person who said, the Turks had only their faith against 6 nations!
You forget they also had "the high ground".....also they had troops able to cope with the climate and somewhere to evacuate their wounded.The "6 nations" were stuck on the beach and disease wiped thousands out.
İ wanted see hamiltons face after war.. his plan was reach to istanbul in 2 days ..they were trust themselves so much..also they made money special for istanbul (half arabic half english) he sends a telegrapgh to the queen ''we would like to host you in istanbul for tea at five'' ..also a recet day was birth day of queen in that week..but all failed...'
anyway.. british,frech, australians, indians came to capture my homeland.. some people proud of this event.. what a pitty for them they didnt get anything from us.. is it equal?.6 nations vs Turks ..not equal right but anyway we stoped them.. they used their best war techonology and everything what they have.. but we were have only and one thing.. ''faith ''..Freedom means everything for us.. we never live under any control power till now..and wont'.. probably they were dont know that point.!!
@byhayati Shut the hell up. The only reason the allies wanted to break through the Turk's defenses was because the "Ottoman Empire" (hardly an empire) refused to allow British ships through the Dardanelles to supply the Russian forces (Who were in desperate need of resupply). Oh and way to go, siding with Germany, the side who most would argue were the bad guys...
PS: The turkish forces had no respect for the Red Cross and shelled medical stations and the lot.
beeancalulu thank you for your comment. Maintaining and updating our traditions l would agree with. However our Faith ( I was alluding to the Christian God ) should be a constant. If our faith is not strong then other faiths will indeed replace it with their own.
all those aussies gathered in the dardenelles and not one has a flag drapesed over them.now i wish the 'young turks' would follow suit and stop de-facing the flag
THANK U 2 ALL OUR AUSSIE DIGGERS YOUS ARE MY HEROS , OUR HEROES AZ I AM A ABORIGINAL , PLEASE DONT BRING UP ABOUT OUR LAND N PAST. ITS GOT NOTHING 2 DO WITH ANZAC. OUR DIGGERS FOUGHT 4 OUR COUNTRY THEIR COUNTRY AUSTRALIA, WE ARE SO PROUD OF THEM , DONT DESRESPECT OUR AUSSIE DIGGERS. :) GOD BLESS THEM ALL
Yes...Lest We Forget! Why the bleeding hell were Australians and New Zealand troops there in the first place?
We went to war to try and stop the stinking rotten Germans from taking over the world. That's what they were trying to do.
Please don't forget we lost a hell of a lot of young men because of the stinking rotten Germans..Lest We Forget. It's all well and good to remember our fallen, but for what reason. They had to go to war to try and stop the filth that was trying to take over the world
New Zealand sent 61 troops to Iraq to support coalition forces (mine-cleaning), Aussies sent 2000 for active invasion. Many soldiers from Bagdad, Basra, and the other cities of today's Iraq lost their lives in Gallipoli. So, aus & nz sent their troops to fight against the line of those martyrs.
All written and told for peace were lie. War is the nature of human being, I do not judge coalition forces for their policy, but, I do not respect these two countries anymore.
This ideoligy is the main reason why conflict comes about, holding on to your beliefs and traditions will create a point of view that will eventual be challenged. Maintaining and updating our traditions like a open and ongoing diary or journal of knowledge is I think the path we need. For it promotes understanding, and peace.
anyway. hopefully all the members of these "allied forces" (england, france, italy) or should we call them vultures, have learned their lessons well => don't mess with turks. even they seem to be down, weak and without any power, food, etc.
@Yigit318 I find that really offensive. I agree that Turks had a right to protect their country.... so how about the 'grateful immigrant' Turks stay there and get the hell out of Australia (as an ANZAC nation). if we are such "vultures", why would you wish to live with us? Social Security? Or jihad? Either way..... not welcome.
@BlueHeeler1952 Dude, after nearly 100 years you still haven't that the anzacs were victims (of the English)and not offenders...And today ? They are the puppets of the US. Keep on dreaming my friend
@BlueHeeler1952@BlueHeeler1952 Dude, after nearly 100 years you still haven't realized that the anzacs were victims (of the English)and not offenders...And today ? They are the puppets of the US. Keep on dreaming my friend
:) How brave the English are. They sent thousands of young men into a war just to save France. Yeah, sure :) And I'm the King of China. Come on dude...
What can I say. The Turks and especially Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has destroyed the dirty plan of the emperialists to conquer the world by opening a "corridor" via Turkey to Asia. But it became a disaster because they had forgotten that Turks are not Indians, Arabs, etc. Turkish people's glorious history is going back to around 10,000 years. Shit happens, sorry guys :)
Turks victory was like a miracle in those circumstances.NZ and Aus. soldiars were there because England didn't want to waste their own soldiars.However the weak one won the battle that day.Ottoman Empire's worst times were in those years and they still did not give up if Peter Jackson wants to make a movie about this war he should see it as a Turkish nations succesfull defence against the imperialist powers of the world.
my english not good but turks didnt care of germans or alliance thing. thousand of years turks build 16 empires from china to europe. and they never give up easly always, if country matters they will fight to end or dead.
Weather it be an Australian, New Zealand or Turkish solder, It doesn't matter. A life is a life. We both fought to kill the other, Who is to say who is right or wrong? May ANY man or woman who lost their life at Gallipoli rest in peace.
Ottoman soldiers of 16th Division’s 48th Regiment who were captured at the Palestine fronts in 1918 were imprisoned in Seydibesir Camp near Alexandria in Egypt.For two years, they were subjected to any kind of torture, oppression, heavy insults and humiliation.Our soldiers, forced by bayonets, were put in disinfection pools full of "krizol" added a lot more than normal in the water.Our 15000 men scalded and got blinded. We are not innocent, but i can not find a word for you.
you cant blame Turks, we were defending our home land till the death, and the allies of England try to remove us from Anatolia and with usingthe Anzac's
we didnt say to you "come from thousands of miles with huge fleet and atack us" but you did.
@SuperQuiller turks didnt care germans, and its diffrend war for turks, there is our homeland, its like enemys atacking Sydney what would you do ? 250.000 turks died becouse that was an honuor to die for country.
@SuperQuiller Everyone country can be called the enemy in World War One. Every country was there for a reason, it just depends on what side you look at. Technically Australia and New Zealand didn't have to be there, but even then there still would have been a bloody battle there anyway because another army would have landed there. There is no point trying to blame a country for it, Turkey was defending themselves as any country would do, Aus and NZ troops were ordered there by the English.
Easy.... easy... slv971 , war is a lie my friend. I'm a 6th generation Aussie, I am more than capable of thinking outside of the equation. You know, it's an honor that Iraq sent good men to Gallipoli... we fought tooth and nail, and you held your line with honor.I have nothing but respect for Turkey and her allies .
As much as you Turks like to think it, Turkey was NOT an innocent victim of this war. They were just as much to blame as the rest of the countries involved. It was a stupid war and a waste of life, if you think your country was blameless and righteous then you havent learned the same lesson as the rest of us have, in which case youre merely destined to repeat history.
Learn from this lesson just like the rest of us have, stop being arrogant and pretending to be a victim.
@slv971 Im not afraid of watching them, its irrelevant. It doesnt change the fact that you know you have been wrong this entire time but because you got 33 likes for your ignorant statement, you're too proud to admit it.
....and you STILL avoid answering my question:
I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time.
Keep changing the subject if you want, but it just shows how wrong you are.
@tripe2004 u dragged me out of the subject. u were/are foul mouthed,now telling me to be serious. if u find docs irrelevant, stop writing barbarian, and killers for Turks on this topic.
There is no compunction or shame we would avoid to answer in our history.
@slv971 ....and yet you continue to avoid my question, the only important question, the reason this "debate" has started, continued, and why it wont end, I will post it for the 4th time - just to show anyone that happens to read this that youre obviously an idiot and completely hypocritical and arrogant.
The docs are irrelevant because you refuse to answer the question. I call Turkish people barbarian and brutes to make a point....I will post the question again in next post
@slv971 I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time?
@slv971 I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time.
If you avoid this for a 4th time, I will know for sure that even you know that you're wrong and youre just to proud to admit it.
@tripe2004 its a pun.u parrot. i do not need your respect. our history is clear. u may plead we were barbarians. i dont care what u said. if u were respectful, why elites needed turkish flag for protection in afghanistan? because they know the truth. if you read history, u will understand who has done worst things. but u dont want to read.manomaniac barker.
@slv971 hahaha....and there it is, cant even answer it.
Everybody, the reason this fool cant answer the question is because he knows for a fact there is more blood on his peoples hands than on any New Zealanders....."He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones." or "pot calling the kettle black."
I never said NZ was completely innocent, but by disrespecting us and respecting your own country, you're claiming Turkey IS completely innocent. How can you say this? You cant, because its not true - every country has done wrong. This is my point.
@tripe2004 i never said TR was completely innocent. This idiom is from Turkish: "i have trusted only to my father, caught him on my mother"
i am not claiming TR is completely innocent, but much better than offensive nations.u never need to defend yr own country,sent soldiers to fight in italy,greece,egypt,libya,solomons, and fiji during ww2 instead being defensive and neutral.same old story.
NZ is not an evil but not repectful.vote monarchy asap.re:keith locke14/10/09
@slv971 ....lol. You're a fucking idiot. You judge my country for sending our soldiers to sacrifice themselves for other people? My peoples blood has been spilled liberating italy and greece from nazi fascism, and you judge that? Fucking CUNT, cowardly little fucking scum. You will burn in hell for such hypocrisy here on earth. I guess you prefer living in countries where ETHNIC CLEANSING is the preferable way of dealing with citizens. Fucking scum.
@tripe2004 Tnx 4 yr reply. Now, im sure u r a worm.TR was neutral, accepted all jewish immigrants during the war, never send them back.Jews r a part of our nation.we would have some prblms with israeli gov. but it doesnt change our respect 2 jewish community in TR.so tell me why British planes bombed jewish fronts instead germs in 1944 Warsaw ghetto uprising? why US bankers support nazis until the end of ww2?why they made collaboration with ss after the war?
Im stupid? You cant even stay ontopic or answer straight questions. I am slim? What the fuck is an "annoying orange"? What does it have to do with anything? You think making absurd statements will throw me off? Be serious.
Oh and if you're going to have an argument with someone it pays to MAKE SENSE. What the fuck are you talking about MRI/CT scans, what does that have to do with ANYTHING? You make no sense. Speak english, stay ontopic or admit youre wrong and fuck off. Dirty Turk.
...and you cant say you dont respect New Zealand because we are "servants" because Turkey has served with more troops in Iraq and afghanistan than NZ has, and you guys joined the coalition, which we refused. That would make you more of a servant to the U.S than us. Please tell me why you can be so hypocritical?
24.12.2010 The owner of an Afghanistan factory is disputing the NZDF account of a fire fight in which two Afghan security guards were killed and two were wounded by New Zealand SAS soldiers. NZ soldiers had since apologised to the factory owners. Businessman answered “I say apology is not enough, you did not kill two cows. You killed two human beings” He was told by the soldiers not to talk to journalists about the incident.
@slv971 LOL. Not true. You're thinking of AUSTRALIA. That's where they sent convicts. Its a well known fact that New Zealand never had any convicts arrive. Our country is made up of Irish and Scottish immigrants....Nowadays its full of South East Asian and Pacific Island immigrants. Multi-cultural....Unlike Turkey who MURDERS anyone in their country that is different. Face it, your country is shit and your morals are fucked. Still arrogant? You cant talk down to me, its just ridiculous. Give up.
@slv971 I see you deleted your post. Good. In it you say you're proud to be a barbarian, when a few posts earlier you were claiming not to be? Your father and grandfather are probably lying....You dont think Kiwis did the same thing? We're a far more peaceful, good-natured country purely because the evil your people have committed over the years is ingrained in you. You're scum. Genocide, murder, atrocities, would you like me to post them all again? You lost this argument 5 posts ago, fuck off.
@tripe2004 yes, i've deleted my post, decided not to share my parents memories with bad mannered kiwi.
i am not counting the posts, not tryin' to prove anything. Already everybody knows the truth. Freedom is having ability to make decision between yes and no. i said "no" more respect to the liar servants.
u and your elite SAS peacekeepers won, innocent ppl born on strategic lands lost. r u happy?
@slv971 I only started arguing because you posted saying you dont respect New Zealand. I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time. It's very hypocritical, and arrogant. I also found it to be rude, and that's why I have been rude back to you.
I think you just dont like european/western people. I think you're racist.
@slv971 You didnt answer my question. I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time? It's very hypocritical, and arrogant.
Im not going to watch those docos. I already know the facts.
I am wrong, sure, okay, so you may not be racist towards westerners, but your racist towards arabs and chinese....What the fuck is wrong with you? No morals, just hatred.
LOL. Saddam was humanitarian? I may have been against the Iraq war, but THAT is absolutely fucking insane and ridiculous. You Turks think genocide and ethnic cleansing is humanitarian, and THAT is why you dont understand anything. Evil murderous brutes.
@slv971 Your country oppresses Cyprus, killing unarmed civilians. Your country has a LONG history of genocide and murder, killed about 2,000,000 Greeks, slaughtered Bulgarians, Ethnic cleansing, corruption. Atrocities against Kurdish people, Armenians, Ionians, Assyrian Christians. Turkish traditional christmas eve party. Murder in the millions. Ever heard of the saying "he who lives in a glass house, shouldn't throw stones?" FUCK Turkey. FUCK you. Your country is responsible for ALOT of evil.
@slv971 "An investigation by the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force and the New Zealand Defence Force has confirmed that New Zealand SAS soldiers fired in self-defence in a joint NZSAS and Afghan operation in Kabul on Christmas Eve.
Video footage of the operation shows that the New Zealanders were fired upon first, says Chief of Defence Force Lieutenant General Jerry Mateparae. "
@tripe2004 Imperialist forces are always right. Its your camera, your Chief, your history and your propaganda.
If we were barbarian, why ANZAC and GB soldiers refused to use gas masks and said "Turks are brave fighters, dont use gas"?
15.05.2009 US-led troops in Afghanistan used Turkish flag "for protection".Turkey's military representative to NATO stating "that due to Turkey's complaint, NATO alerted other countries not to use Turkish flag during attacks in Afghanistan"
@slv971 Being brave doesnt stop you from being a Barbarian. Lol, thats the stupidest statement you've made so far. Your people might as well crawl around on hands and knees because your scum ridden genocidal dogs. Nothing you've said in this post can take away from the fact that your country is responsible for FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR MORE death, destruction and atrocity than my country. So much more its ridiculous for you to even bother arguing. Blood on your hands, money on your mind. Pure scum.
Has nothing to do with Israel. None of that changes the fact Turkey sucks dick (I had alot of respect for Turkey before I started this "conversation" with you - You've shown Turkish people to be rude, arrogant, disrespectful and very, very, VERY PETTY) Get fucked.
Bullshit. You cant make such claims of imperialism to my country and deny Turkey's long relationship with larger powers. All the way from the ottoman empire to now sucking americas cock, in the "coalition." We didnt send troops, we sent engineers to iraq. We said no to combat. Youre an arrogant, completely hypocritical bastard, i now have NO respect for your country. Theres a MILLION other countries you could disrespect before mine, countries who have done far worse. Why bother?
@slv971 ahahaha, what a loser.....So imperialism and colonisation is evil, but money talks and America is okay, sure. What the fuck. Are you 12? Do you not understand that money motivates imperialism? Do you not see this?
Next time, dont sit on your high horse casting judgement on countries and people who are far more morally sound than you are. Turkey has far more to answer for than our tiny country. Just out for money, we dont borrow/invade countries for money like Turkey and the U.S.
@slv971 No we've already proven thats what TURKEY does. NZ is not in the coalition of the willing, because we had the balls to say we werent willing to invade a country.
@slv971 We dont have troops, we have peacekeepers. Why doesnt TURKEY go to the UN or send troops to kick invaders out? You're the one thats bitching and whining about it. You're the one thats accusing other countries. Its YOUR country that is partly to blame. Idiot. We do as much as we can to help iraqi and afghani citizens. YOUR country is the one that just looks out for itself and for how much money it can make and how much support it can get from U.S. Your country is shit. Get fucked.
29.01.2009 Turkey's prime minister has stormed off the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos after a heated debate on Gaza with Israel's president.
31.05.2010 Israeli Forces raided and seized the MV Mavi Marmara in international waters. In the violent clash that followed, nine activists were killed.
12.08.2009 NZ government is redeploying elite SAS troops to the occupation of Afghanistan. The decision follows a request from the Obama administration.
19.01.2010 Brazil and Turkey have urged fellow members of the UN Security Council to heed a deal they struck with Iran over its nuclear programme. "Brazil and Turkey are convinced that it is time to give a chance for negotiations and to avoid measures that are detrimental to a peaceful solution of this matter," the foreign ministers of Brazil and Turkey said in the letter to the UN Security Council.
@slv971 Search Wikipedia for 'The Coalition Of The Willing' ...Look at the list of countries that were a part of the coalition of the willing, the INVADERS OF IRAQ led by America and Britain....I DONT see NEW ZEALAND....I DO SEE TURKEY. Now you see you are an ignorant hypocrite? Now you see you are wrong? Do a little research before you make rude and disrepectful statements and wild accusations with no basis. Arrogant little man.
@tripe2004 , yes, we have troops in northern iraq since 1983. Border Security and Co-operation Agreement allows this situation. its legal and signed between Turkish and free Iraqi governments many years before invasion. Inviders are pushing us to leave, and support terrorists since 1990.
Kiwis said NO, then sent troops? weird.
are you sure they were there for mine cleaning? would it be the new movie:
@slv971 ...Look at the list of countries that were a part of the coalition of the willing, google it. ...the INVADERS OF IRAQ led by America and Britain....I DONT see NEW ZEALAND....I DO SEE TURKEY. Now you see you are an ignorant hypocrite? Now you see you are wrong? Do a little research before you make rude and disrepectful statements and wild accusations with no basis. Arrogant little man.
Im insulting, and you're not? You're disrespectful, rude and assuming. Ummmm, how can you say Turkey was not part of the Ottoman empire? Istanbul was the CAPITAL of the empire you ridiculous man....and YES we have turned down both England AND America. They asked us to go to Iraq, we said no. The asked us for a full troop commitment to Afghanistan, we sent only engineers to rebuild the country. We, a tiny country, told the U.S to fuck off when they tried to bring nuclear ships into our ports.
The meaning of anzac day is to take 1 day out of our lives to pay tribute to the people who set up the foundations for the free world we live in by defeating the austro-hungarian empire to enable us to live in a country thats not under tyanny which is most places in the world
The meaning of anzac day is to take 1 day out of our lives to pay tribute to the people who set up the foundations for the free world we live in by defeating the austro-hungarian empire to enable us to live in a country thats not under tyanny which is most places in the world
how did the allies win honour?!?! what is honour to them? invading and killing 253000 Turks in Turkey? Turkey was not going to invade any one! SO why the aggression? How is this move by the Anzac any different than Nazi invasion of Poland? Shame on them.
It wasnt the ANZACs that led the invasion. The BRITISH led the attack. There were more UK troops in Gallipolli than ANZACs. ANZAC troops didnt know where they were going, they thought theyd be going to fight germany in france and belgium. Blame the english. ANZACs had more respect for turkish soldiers than their British commanders because of this campaign. Ottoman empire aligned themselves with germany and austria as allies. YOU declared war, THAT is why YOU were attacked.
@tripe2004 are you insane? Germany, Ottoman did not declare war. They participated in a war to defend their allies, just like Britain, France did. Germany, Ottomans were no more guilty than the French or Brits. And away with ur BS abt ANZACS not knowing where they are going. that's such a Disney tale! anzacs knew they are attacking turkey. australians volunteered to invade and kill turks. australia and new zealand were part of britain so dont try to confuse others. it wont work.
Who declared war on who is semantics. The point is both sides were equally to blame, you cant say that ANZACs are more to blame than Turks for Gallipolli. THAT is insane, and all im saying is that it is wrong. Which it is. Individual ANZAC soldiers DID NOT KNOW where they were being sent. Battalion commanders did, but they had no control over it. It was british generals who organised the campaign and ordered our troops to the front lines. New Zealand commanders had no control
@tripe2004 i am certain now that you are insane. if i have to agree with you, then americans are equally responsible for 9/11. anzacs were invaders. there was no possibility of turks invading australia or england. if u cant distinguish red from green then i have nothing else to say.
Americans are, to a degree, responsible for 9/11. They have been covertly involved in middle eastern affairs for decades in order to gain control of assets like oil, and to make sure they had friendly puppets in control of governments so they would cooperate.
Do you even know why british generals sent our ANZACs to invade Turkey? You were an enemy country. "The Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers in the war, the secret Ottoman-German Alliance having been signed in August 1914. It threatened Russia's Caucasian territories and Britain's communications with India via the Suez Canal."
You invaded the russian caucuses. YOU were invaders too. Russia was our ally, just like Germany was yours. Turkey was not an innocent victim.
@randominitializer mate england did not see turkey as threat to englland or australia and nz, there saw them as well as germany as a threat to france. britain told the anzacs to attack turkey as a distraction so the the brits could defend france more easily
@buffalo827 seriously who taught you history lessons? Well I am not surprised. We all have been forced to accept the lie without using our brain. Invasion of Turkey occurred at the end of world war I. When there was absolutely no threat from Turkey to anyone, france or england. Turkey was only occupied with wars against its own colony in Greece and Balkan. It was losing wars against its own colonies, let alone invading France, Use your brain and think, think and think. don't get brainwashed.
@randominitializer The invasion happened in the beginning of the war, in 1915, The invasion came about because the British politicians believed in the take out the allies of Germany and win the war theory rather than the take out the German army and the allies of Germany will fall theory.
Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives, you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. therefore rest in peace. there is no difference between the johnnies and the mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours.
you, the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears, your sons are now lying in our bosoms and are in peace. after having lost their lives on this land they become our sons as well.
all the world is so blind.. Why people dont know about that war ? this is one of the biggest story for freedom... Do you know where is australia ? where the anzac's came from ? and do you know where is the Turkey ? so many country must ashamed for that... and where is the hollywood they do their film like a hero story to using atom bombs or "savin private ryan"... bullshit :) they must filmed this story but they cant because they lose it and they have no right to war !!! Anyway hope no war again
New Zealand sent 61 troops to Iraq to support coalition forces (mine-cleaning), Aussies sent 2000 for active invasion. Many soldiers from Bagdad, Basra, and the other cities of today's Iraq lost their lives in Gallipoli. So, aus & nz sent their troops to fight against the line of those martyrs.
All written and told for peace were lie. War is the nature of human being, I do not judge coalition forces for their policy, but, I do not respect these two countries anymore.
@slv971 How about you shut your mouth? Turkey, never used to be a Islamic state full of violent brainwashed individuals. It used to be home to many of Christians and some Jews who were kicked out their own country and many of the survivors butchered for simply not converting or accepting that political filth you call a religion.
"used to take a shower?" That implies you dont anymore. What is your problem with NZ? The english are to blame for Gallipolli, not us. We were SENT there under british orders not knowing what was going to happen, since then we've wanted no part in war. Ottoman empire is just as much to blame for ww1 as england and germany are. It was a war of pacts and egos, to say its all our fault is fucked up. Fuck you, jerk off.
@slv971 Im sorry but you dont speak very good english so i dont understand what your point is. I dont speak for AUS, I speak for NZ who you've condemned for no good reason. You're mistaken if you think we follow britain blindly....We make our own decisions and are a peaceful country who instead of an army, has "peacekeepers," we are a noble and righteous country, and proud of it. We do not start wars or support illegal wars. You compare us to AUS too much.
@tripe2004 , AUS and NZ are still British colonies. They are in the same pot. I hope Kiwi government makes an effort to keep their country tidy, and stay away from the middle east arena in the future.Tnx.
@slv971 What the fuck do you know about it? You group us all together based on what??? We WERE a british colony. We govern ourselves now, the only links to britain we still have are trivial and ceremonial. We dont share their foreign policy at all. Youve shown your ignorance. I know you know NOTHING of my country except geographically where we are placed, and if you dont want us to come and clean up after the americans and british have fucked the countries up, who will pick up the pieces? Prick
@slv971 Stop asking me to be polite, you're telling me you dont respect my country. That is NOT being polite. The monarchy is a joke, the Queen controls nothing. Its all ceremonial. They WERE ordering us, around a hundred years ago. Just like TURKEY was part of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE.They may still ask us to do things, but we turn them down. They also asked every other country with an army on the planet too - Do you disrespect them all as well? Im sure they would have asked Turkey to support. Idiot.
@tripe2004, you are still insulting. it will be difficult to civilize you.
TURKEY was NOT part of the OTTOMANS unlike the other 22 countries taking place on the Empire's map. Flag is the same. Turks were administer.
Planet is full of enemies and frenemies. They never asked us to support with our troops. Because they very well know we are not two-faced. Have Kiwiland ever turned them down?
I dont understand why you dont "respect" NZ anymore? What have we done to your country? If you're judging us for sending our ENGINEERS to Iraq and Afghanistan, then you're an idiot. We didnt send any frontline troops....They have cleared mines so Iraqi children dont lose legs, they have built schools so they can learn, and infrastructure so that the countries can rebuild themselves. We have never supported the invasion. Infact, we help clean up Americas mess while getting shot at.
@tripe2004, NEW SOUTH WALES PARLIAMENT PASSES MOTION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE MEMORIAL Sydney:- On Wednesday 29 April 1998, the New South Wales (NSW) State Parliament passed a motion accepting the establishment of a memorial within the precincts of the NSW State Parliament honouring the memory of the 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children who fell victim to the 1915-23 genocide perpetrated by the Ottoman Turkish Government.
So Australia, who has a large armenian population, puts up a genocide memorial....What significance is this? It has nothing to do with NZ. If you knew anything about NZ you would know we've politically been a completely different country to AUSTRALIA. We distance ourselves from them completely. Our government has always been alot more left of theirs, and we've always been pro-civil rights and always anti-war. To say we have the same mentality shows your ignorance on this topic.
@slv971 So no respect for New Zealand and Australia eh?
What do you think of people who go out and blow up and destroy innocent civilians lives like with car bombs in Iraq?
I don't agree with the New Zealand or Australian troops being over there but I respect them because there dying to help people, they pretty much sign there lives away to help another nation.
@lucilleAmiel are you serious? I hope you are not natural blockhead like the other servants below. Read something useful instead Harry Potter, then think why those ppl are going out and blow up. Are they maniac or something is wrong in iraq? Yes, your elites are there to help but to whom? Only being a naval soldier in "HMAS Success" is the harmless way to help people.
Oh and when you type in English you usually put 'a' and 'of' like are you A natural blockhead?
AND OTHER SERVANTS BELOW?
Whats that supposed to mean that everyone who disagrees with your obviously fucked opinion is a servant? That we just do as we are told?
Grow up dickhead, people are expressing there opinions just like you did was I rude to you when I commented no I was just asking you a simple question so go fuck yourself :)
@lucilleAmiel Damn,u r n s expert, biting like A pittbull.dunt worry honey bee,i ve seen aussie defects like u before.why all OF u start writing words on sexual activities n organs when someone drives u crazy?u sailor 2?Dont hide yrself,i can see whatta disgusting soul all u have.Wash yr mouth with “krizol”(*c below) and b baptist sister, teach arab guys the beauty OF christchurch.shake m s lovely Gertrude Bell II.
Otherwise,all u can do is 2 carry toilet paper 4 ms.Hilton!u know what i mean ;)
@slv971 Hey mate, Australia and NZ are ordered under British rule. Obviously you are not from either of these 2 countries so why do you feel the need to visit a page on youtube that means so much to us, just to leave a dis respectful comment ? ANZAC day makes me feel more proud to be Australian than any other day, but you wouldnt understand this coz your not from here, mate.
@888kabe tnx for your polite reply. Turks lost 253000 men(incl.my granduncle) there that means so much to us too. Sending soldiers to fight against the line of iraqi origined martyrs is disrespectul. I respect ANZACs who lost their life in Gallipoli, and understand your feelings well.But, no respect to your politicians. Good day!
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edcboatman 6 days ago
The only winners in war are the banking families who loan governments money at high interest. Here in Britain we're still paying off our debt for the civil war let alone all the wars in the last 200 years. Rothschild family have us by the balls they fund both sides every time.
pigeonpsycho 2 weeks ago
I bet all the people arguing on here only think they know the History of the wars because they know a when they started and ended and who Hitler was. Stop arguing like children, every country and the soldiers who fought were equally as brave and they all deserve respect. Even the Germans, because contrary to popular belief not all Germans wanted to fight for the Nazis. however the Nazi death squads deserve no respect at all.
DigginNtheCrates 1 month ago
I am TURK. I am proud of it. We kicked your ass. I have never seen any british empire flag over us. Have some milk and then when you guys are ready, We will beat you again. It is our habit ...........
TURKS.....
buraksevic 1 month ago
@buraksevic That's right, you are Turk. Before the first world war you were Ottoman. What happened to your great Ottoman Empire? It was destroyed, which is why now you are Ottoman no longer and just a Turk.
Frisii1 1 month ago
@Frisii1 You forget: Turks built the Ottoman Empire ;)
OsmanOsmanHan 1 month ago
@buraksevic Tell me, if you beat the British so badly then why did you lose the war and every single inch of the Ottoman Empire? Stick to killing Kurdish civilians, it is about the only thing the Turks can manage on their own …
Wingatewasright 1 month ago
My friend! Leave not my homeland to the hands of villainous men!
Render your chest as armor! Stop this disgraceful rush!
For soon shall be come the day of promised freedom...
Who knows? Perhaps tomorrow? Perhaps even sooner!
We are independence starter...We are Stronger Turks yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa
acemvari1 2 months ago
@acemvari1 The funny thing is, we lost Gallipoli because we failed to plan it well and we were focused on fighting the Germans. You claim that this was a great victory for Turkey. If you think you were stronger than the British Empire, why is it that we completely annihlated you the following year? We didn't just beat you. We humiliated you. We utterly destroyed the weak and pathetic Ottoman Empire.
Long live ANZAC and the British Empire!
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
Read the history an idiot.
buraksevic 1 month ago
@buraksevic Perhaps you don't understand. There is no real history in America. It's all bullshit propaganda over there. Perhaps you didn't know that? I read real history.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
@TheLiberalKnight Absoloure Nonsense.The british had every interest in maintining the Ottoman Empire.THe Turks fought off the brits (and greeks and french and so on) to build Turkey , after they chased away the Sultan who was weak and used by the British.
OsmanOsmanHan 1 month ago
@OsmanOsmanHan They wanted to maintain the Ottoman Empire because otherwise it would fall into the hands of the Russians. That's the uncomfortable truth the Turks don't like to admit. From 1700 onwards they were little more than puppets to France and Britain, deeply indebted and militarily weak. Gallopoli is hailed as a great Ottoman success, but it only failed thanks to bad British strategic planning and logistics.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
@TheLiberalKnight Militarily weak because of never stopping wars for hundreds of years, and the cunning politics Britain is known for throughout the world.Nevertheless you were never able to colonise or destroy the Turkish nation,despite your hidden agendas and provoced instabilities within the Ottoman Empire.Gallipoli was lost because you fought against Turks, no other reason.2 British Generals and Churchill had to resign because of the humiliations we gave you there.
OsmanOsmanHan 1 month ago
@OsmanOsmanHan We never had the intention to colonize Turkey, you idiot. Our colonization priorities were in central Asia and Africa.
Nope, bad planning lost Gallapoli. Saying it was thanks to Turkish strength is as bullshit and saying gravity doesn't exist. It doesn't make sense that the richest and most powerful country on earth could be defeated by a weak, bankrupt and barbaric country. If that were true, why were did we annihilate your entire empire with ease?
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
@TheLiberalKnight
I laugh bruise british empire :D
acemvari1 1 week ago
@acemvari1 What the fuck are you on about? What does that even mean?
TheLiberalKnight 1 week ago
Lacrimosa + Gallipoli = Epic sadness...ANZACS your ancestors rest in peace with ours.What an unnecessary war and waste of young lives.At least we can look back on our history and try to make sure this won't happen again.
oO0HarunYahya0Oo 3 months ago
it was a sad day for NZ a few years back when the British Royals thanked all the commonwealth for their suppourt in both worldwars and completely forgot to mention NZ :-(
nick21sammy 3 months ago
watching this for history class muhahahah
DuhNinja96 3 months ago
funny how all these kids in here seem to be experts
buzzbox2nd 4 months ago
Peter Jackson(Lord of the rings) is a great man.
Downfacingdog 4 months ago
I see alot of attacks happening and arguments about who was right/wrong. No one was either, they were all doing what they thought was right for their countries both the Anzacs and the Turks. All those men were brave and courageous and they all had the same hopes and fears and the same dreams for their lives, many of whom never got to experience after this terrible war. Be proud of all of them, no matter where we are from, they all fought for our safety and our futures. And here we all go again.
angie4josh 5 months ago
From what I have heard from the Trenches, The Turks were actually very honorable folks. In a way, despite always killing each other, The Turks and Australians were like competitive rivals in more of a friendly way,
I once even heard that the Turks and the Aussies used the dummies they used to draw fire, to have shooting contests with. If a paticular side won, they would chuck over cigarettes and rations to the other trench as a prize.
MrFraserFilms2009 6 months ago
Aussies always used as connon fodder by the poms.
Such a shame.
Then Aussies say bad things about other countries soldiers
FGalaxie 6 months ago
@FGalaxie Mate don't think the Aussies were treated any worse than our own, we had 30,000+ die in Gallipoli. Everyone was cannon fodder.
kingdaniel69 5 months ago
@FGalaxie
Gallipoli was a big fuck up all round - every country involved suffered greatly.
As a Brit though I'm happy to concede that on the western front Australian soldiers displayed their ability and bravery time and time again. They were among the very best and a credit to their nation and to the Commonwealth.
TheSmithDorian 4 months ago
@TheSmithDorian hey mate, dont forget the kiwis, we saved your asses plenty of times during the desert wars of 1941-1945, especially when we halted one of rommels advances in 1942, we also took part in El- Alamein, yet we always are forgotten :(
nick21sammy 3 months ago
@nick21sammy
Not forgotten by me. I'm not an authority on WW2 but in WW1 the Kiwis actions in Palestine and Messines were outstanding.
In the words of British General / Field Marshall Allenby (who didn't dish out praise lightly): "Nothing daunted these intrepid fighters: to them nothing was impossible"
TheSmithDorian 3 months ago
Btw my Great-Grandfather was an English medic attached to ANZAC during the Gallipoli landings and up until the evacuation. -Sgt. Thomas Turner Fawley-
LewisFawley 6 months ago
All of you Turks pleading that us English were oppressors read this. We only wanted to resupply Russia by travelling through the Dardanelles, however, you refused and attacked cargo ships. Also, you allied with Austria-Hungary and Germany who WERE the real Imperialists who started the war by declaring war on little Serbia. So were you really a helpless little victim? I mean for Fs sake the Germans built your defenses. Or planned them anyways...
LewisFawley 6 months ago
Thats bullshit, the Ottomans and the Russians have been enemies for centuries. The only resupply the Russians were getting were guns, cannons and ammunition that would irrefutably be used against the Ottomans or their allies, the Germans.
The British (and French) could not hope to win a war with Germany, I mean for F's sakes, the U.S. saved your ass's in both World Wars!
MrDesiballer 4 months ago
@MrDesiballer The US saved us? in world war 1, the Americans sent a few companies and were in the war for a couple of months. Mostly placed in the midst of British or French units to gain experience. In world war 2, i respect the role that the US played, but, you didn't save us, when we won the Battle of Britain, any chance of a German invasion of Britain was destroyed. Also, how did Vietnam go? I hate ignorant Americans like you, you embarass your good country!
LewisFawley 4 months ago
@MrDesiballer 70% of German Army was destroyed by Russians in WW2. Berlin was taken by Russians.
You've contributed almost nothing.
Idealist2011 4 months ago
Your comment isnt even relevant. You claim that England didnt do anything except "supply" Russia. What kind of supplies do you think countries send to each other in times of war, toys? They were shipping weapons, ammunition, and items of military importance. Of course the Turks are going to stop the English from supplying their enemy, regardless of its contents.
If the US gave "supplies" to the Nazi's in WW2, you think the British would let them?
Sorry for the late response.
MrDesiballer 2 months ago
What...? The US gave the USSR weapons and tanks, and if the German Army fought on one front, instead of two, which only could have happened with the US's entrance in the war, I assure you thing would be different. Though im glad it werent so, and im not discounting the USSR's part in the war.
MrDesiballer 2 months ago
@MrDesiballer "if the German Army fought on one front, instead of two"
Lol !!!
From june 1941 up to june 1944 there was ONE FRONT in Europe, e.i. Germans vs. Russians. And Russians destroyed 70% of German army, and German allies too: Romanians, Italians, Hungarians, Croatians, Bulgarians, Slovaks as well as volonteers from Spain and Sweden.
And Americano-Brittish troops mixed up in the Battle of the Bulge (Dec.1944 – Jan.1945) and almost lost war but Russians saved them again.
Idealist2011 2 months ago
@Idealist2011 I am British and I agree with this man. Russia won WW2. It was Russia that really defeated Germany, not the Americans. The only regret is that the communists were in power rather than the Tsars.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
@MrDesiballer "US's entrance in the war"
There are only 7 months from june 1944 up to may 1945 :)
Idealist2011 2 months ago
NUMBER ONE TURKEY ;)
turkoglupoyraz 6 months ago
Please remeber that the USMC studied this campaingn and from the hard lessons learned here developed the Amphibious Doctrine that won the War in the Paciific.
77Midn 7 months ago
To the person who said, the Turks had only their faith against 6 nations!
You forget they also had "the high ground".....also they had troops able to cope with the climate and somewhere to evacuate their wounded.The "6 nations" were stuck on the beach and disease wiped thousands out.
My grandad was there.
efc23 7 months ago
İ wanted see hamiltons face after war.. his plan was reach to istanbul in 2 days ..they were trust themselves so much..also they made money special for istanbul (half arabic half english) he sends a telegrapgh to the queen ''we would like to host you in istanbul for tea at five'' ..also a recet day was birth day of queen in that week..but all failed...'
byhayati 9 months ago
anyway.. british,frech, australians, indians came to capture my homeland.. some people proud of this event.. what a pitty for them they didnt get anything from us.. is it equal?.6 nations vs Turks ..not equal right but anyway we stoped them.. they used their best war techonology and everything what they have.. but we were have only and one thing.. ''faith ''..Freedom means everything for us.. we never live under any control power till now..and wont'.. probably they were dont know that point.!!
byhayati 9 months ago
@byhayati Shut the hell up. The only reason the allies wanted to break through the Turk's defenses was because the "Ottoman Empire" (hardly an empire) refused to allow British ships through the Dardanelles to supply the Russian forces (Who were in desperate need of resupply). Oh and way to go, siding with Germany, the side who most would argue were the bad guys...
PS: The turkish forces had no respect for the Red Cross and shelled medical stations and the lot.
LewisFawley 6 months ago
@byhayati BTW, Hamilton was a massive fool and deserved to be shot for the many, many deaths he caused, for both sides.
LewisFawley 6 months ago
beeancalulu thank you for your comment. Maintaining and updating our traditions l would agree with. However our Faith ( I was alluding to the Christian God ) should be a constant. If our faith is not strong then other faiths will indeed replace it with their own.
soapy277 9 months ago
Lest We Forget.
Chastrie 9 months ago
all those aussies gathered in the dardenelles and not one has a flag drapesed over them.now i wish the 'young turks' would follow suit and stop de-facing the flag
onyachamp 9 months ago
so proud to be australian on this day
lazybumz81 9 months ago
THANK U 2 ALL OUR AUSSIE DIGGERS YOUS ARE MY HEROS , OUR HEROES AZ I AM A ABORIGINAL , PLEASE DONT BRING UP ABOUT OUR LAND N PAST. ITS GOT NOTHING 2 DO WITH ANZAC. OUR DIGGERS FOUGHT 4 OUR COUNTRY THEIR COUNTRY AUSTRALIA, WE ARE SO PROUD OF THEM , DONT DESRESPECT OUR AUSSIE DIGGERS. :) GOD BLESS THEM ALL
clikclik1000 9 months ago
@clikclik1000 ARE YOU STILL ALIVE TASSIE TIGER? AVOID YOUR TAIL FROM TRAPS.
slv971 9 months ago
Yes...Lest We Forget! Why the bleeding hell were Australians and New Zealand troops there in the first place?
We went to war to try and stop the stinking rotten Germans from taking over the world. That's what they were trying to do.
Please don't forget we lost a hell of a lot of young men because of the stinking rotten Germans..Lest We Forget. It's all well and good to remember our fallen, but for what reason. They had to go to war to try and stop the filth that was trying to take over the world
loutondacoast 9 months ago
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Alamanda206 9 months ago
New Zealand sent 61 troops to Iraq to support coalition forces (mine-cleaning), Aussies sent 2000 for active invasion. Many soldiers from Bagdad, Basra, and the other cities of today's Iraq lost their lives in Gallipoli. So, aus & nz sent their troops to fight against the line of those martyrs.
All written and told for peace were lie. War is the nature of human being, I do not judge coalition forces for their policy, but, I do not respect these two countries anymore.
slv971 9 months ago
Keep hold of our traditions and faiths, lest we forget - then some other replace it with their own!!!!!!!!!
soapy277 9 months ago
@soapy277
This ideoligy is the main reason why conflict comes about, holding on to your beliefs and traditions will create a point of view that will eventual be challenged. Maintaining and updating our traditions like a open and ongoing diary or journal of knowledge is I think the path we need. For it promotes understanding, and peace.
beeancalulu 9 months ago
proud to be auzzie
oldmate104 9 months ago
anyway. hopefully all the members of these "allied forces" (england, france, italy) or should we call them vultures, have learned their lessons well => don't mess with turks. even they seem to be down, weak and without any power, food, etc.
Yigit318 9 months ago
@Yigit318 I find that really offensive. I agree that Turks had a right to protect their country.... so how about the 'grateful immigrant' Turks stay there and get the hell out of Australia (as an ANZAC nation). if we are such "vultures", why would you wish to live with us? Social Security? Or jihad? Either way..... not welcome.
BlueHeeler1952 9 months ago
@BlueHeeler1952
the so called anzac nation you talk about is really for the aboriginal people, go back to england you red neck
ncrdblbmw 9 months ago
@BlueHeeler1952 Dude, after nearly 100 years you still haven't that the anzacs were victims (of the English)and not offenders...And today ? They are the puppets of the US. Keep on dreaming my friend
Yigit318 9 months ago
@Yigit318 Wanker
BlueHeeler1952 9 months ago
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@BlueHeeler1952 @BlueHeeler1952 Dude, after nearly 100 years you still haven't realized that the anzacs were victims (of the English)and not offenders...And today ? They are the puppets of the US. Keep on dreaming my friend
Yigit318 9 months ago
:) How brave the English are. They sent thousands of young men into a war just to save France. Yeah, sure :) And I'm the King of China. Come on dude...
Yigit318 9 months ago
@gavoceltic17 well the british did just send over 30000 convicts to australia in the first place and just left them there.
buffalo827 9 months ago
What can I say. The Turks and especially Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has destroyed the dirty plan of the emperialists to conquer the world by opening a "corridor" via Turkey to Asia. But it became a disaster because they had forgotten that Turks are not Indians, Arabs, etc. Turkish people's glorious history is going back to around 10,000 years. Shit happens, sorry guys :)
Yigit318 9 months ago
Turks victory was like a miracle in those circumstances.NZ and Aus. soldiars were there because England didn't want to waste their own soldiars.However the weak one won the battle that day.Ottoman Empire's worst times were in those years and they still did not give up if Peter Jackson wants to make a movie about this war he should see it as a Turkish nations succesfull defence against the imperialist powers of the world.
TheBozkurtreis 9 months ago
my english not good but turks didnt care of germans or alliance thing. thousand of years turks build 16 empires from china to europe. and they never give up easly always, if country matters they will fight to end or dead.
Kulapaurungu 10 months ago
Weather it be an Australian, New Zealand or Turkish solder, It doesn't matter. A life is a life. We both fought to kill the other, Who is to say who is right or wrong? May ANY man or woman who lost their life at Gallipoli rest in peace.
ozziegal12 10 months ago 2
Ottoman soldiers of 16th Division’s 48th Regiment who were captured at the Palestine fronts in 1918 were imprisoned in Seydibesir Camp near Alexandria in Egypt.For two years, they were subjected to any kind of torture, oppression, heavy insults and humiliation.Our soldiers, forced by bayonets, were put in disinfection pools full of "krizol" added a lot more than normal in the water.Our 15000 men scalded and got blinded. We are not innocent, but i can not find a word for you.
slv971 10 months ago
you cant blame Turks, we were defending our home land till the death, and the allies of England try to remove us from Anatolia and with usingthe Anzac's
we didnt say to you "come from thousands of miles with huge fleet and atack us" but you did.
Kulapaurungu 10 months ago
Turkey was part of the Ottoman–German Alliance and as such you were the enemy. Don't hide and plead innocence!
SuperQuiller 10 months ago
@SuperQuiller turks didnt care germans, and its diffrend war for turks, there is our homeland, its like enemys atacking Sydney what would you do ? 250.000 turks died becouse that was an honuor to die for country.
Kulapaurungu 10 months ago
@SuperQuiller Everyone country can be called the enemy in World War One. Every country was there for a reason, it just depends on what side you look at. Technically Australia and New Zealand didn't have to be there, but even then there still would have been a bloody battle there anyway because another army would have landed there. There is no point trying to blame a country for it, Turkey was defending themselves as any country would do, Aus and NZ troops were ordered there by the English.
lucilleAmiel 9 months ago 2
Easy.... easy... slv971 , war is a lie my friend. I'm a 6th generation Aussie, I am more than capable of thinking outside of the equation. You know, it's an honor that Iraq sent good men to Gallipoli... we fought tooth and nail, and you held your line with honor.I have nothing but respect for Turkey and her allies .
jspee1965 10 months ago
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slv971 11 months ago
As much as you Turks like to think it, Turkey was NOT an innocent victim of this war. They were just as much to blame as the rest of the countries involved. It was a stupid war and a waste of life, if you think your country was blameless and righteous then you havent learned the same lesson as the rest of us have, in which case youre merely destined to repeat history.
Learn from this lesson just like the rest of us have, stop being arrogant and pretending to be a victim.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 why u r afraid of watching these docs? how you r gonna teach if u dont learn?
study ww1 maps and caucassus fronts.who invided where?will you study or continue to bark?
stupid, u r extremely stupid.
MRI imaging and CT scanning shows kiwis had surprisingly big brains for their body size. r u sure u r kiwi?
gotcha! u r slim. haha.. i luv annoying oranges...haha
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971 Im not afraid of watching them, its irrelevant. It doesnt change the fact that you know you have been wrong this entire time but because you got 33 likes for your ignorant statement, you're too proud to admit it.
....and you STILL avoid answering my question:
I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time.
Keep changing the subject if you want, but it just shows how wrong you are.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 u dragged me out of the subject. u were/are foul mouthed,now telling me to be serious. if u find docs irrelevant, stop writing barbarian, and killers for Turks on this topic.
There is no compunction or shame we would avoid to answer in our history.
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971 ....and yet you continue to avoid my question, the only important question, the reason this "debate" has started, continued, and why it wont end, I will post it for the 4th time - just to show anyone that happens to read this that youre obviously an idiot and completely hypocritical and arrogant.
The docs are irrelevant because you refuse to answer the question. I call Turkish people barbarian and brutes to make a point....I will post the question again in next post
tripe2004 11 months ago
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@slv971 I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time?
tripe2004 11 months ago
@slv971 I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time.
If you avoid this for a 4th time, I will know for sure that even you know that you're wrong and youre just to proud to admit it.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 its a pun.u parrot. i do not need your respect. our history is clear. u may plead we were barbarians. i dont care what u said. if u were respectful, why elites needed turkish flag for protection in afghanistan? because they know the truth. if you read history, u will understand who has done worst things. but u dont want to read.manomaniac barker.
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971 hahaha....and there it is, cant even answer it.
Everybody, the reason this fool cant answer the question is because he knows for a fact there is more blood on his peoples hands than on any New Zealanders....."He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones." or "pot calling the kettle black."
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 u dont have anything u can hold, trying to beat me with stupid comparison.
we r living in a strategic area, moon is more closer to the world than your island.dont show me the map, its comparison.
howmany viet congs did your elites killed? were they afraid of communist attack from moscow? or someone ordered?oh..no, asked! smoked koheru.
A word to the wise is enough.
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971
I never said NZ was completely innocent, but by disrespecting us and respecting your own country, you're claiming Turkey IS completely innocent. How can you say this? You cant, because its not true - every country has done wrong. This is my point.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 i never said TR was completely innocent. This idiom is from Turkish: "i have trusted only to my father, caught him on my mother"
i am not claiming TR is completely innocent, but much better than offensive nations.u never need to defend yr own country,sent soldiers to fight in italy,greece,egypt,libya,solomons, and fiji during ww2 instead being defensive and neutral.same old story.
NZ is not an evil but not repectful.vote monarchy asap.re:keith locke14/10/09
is it an answer 4 yr query?
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971 ....lol. You're a fucking idiot. You judge my country for sending our soldiers to sacrifice themselves for other people? My peoples blood has been spilled liberating italy and greece from nazi fascism, and you judge that? Fucking CUNT, cowardly little fucking scum. You will burn in hell for such hypocrisy here on earth. I guess you prefer living in countries where ETHNIC CLEANSING is the preferable way of dealing with citizens. Fucking scum.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 Tnx 4 yr reply. Now, im sure u r a worm.TR was neutral, accepted all jewish immigrants during the war, never send them back.Jews r a part of our nation.we would have some prblms with israeli gov. but it doesnt change our respect 2 jewish community in TR.so tell me why British planes bombed jewish fronts instead germs in 1944 Warsaw ghetto uprising? why US bankers support nazis until the end of ww2?why they made collaboration with ss after the war?
yes,u r not a devil, only its shit.
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971
Im stupid? You cant even stay ontopic or answer straight questions. I am slim? What the fuck is an "annoying orange"? What does it have to do with anything? You think making absurd statements will throw me off? Be serious.
Oh and if you're going to have an argument with someone it pays to MAKE SENSE. What the fuck are you talking about MRI/CT scans, what does that have to do with ANYTHING? You make no sense. Speak english, stay ontopic or admit youre wrong and fuck off. Dirty Turk.
tripe2004 11 months ago
...and you cant say you dont respect New Zealand because we are "servants" because Turkey has served with more troops in Iraq and afghanistan than NZ has, and you guys joined the coalition, which we refused. That would make you more of a servant to the U.S than us. Please tell me why you can be so hypocritical?
tripe2004 11 months ago
Hey buddy, YOU have been very disrespectful from the get go....What did you expect from me? Eye for an eye, Dickbag.
tripe2004 1 year ago
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@tripe2004
24.12.2010 The owner of an Afghanistan factory is disputing the NZDF account of a fire fight in which two Afghan security guards were killed and two were wounded by New Zealand SAS soldiers. NZ soldiers had since apologised to the factory owners. Businessman answered “I say apology is not enough, you did not kill two cows. You killed two human beings” He was told by the soldiers not to talk to journalists about the incident.
Kiwis traditional christmas eve party. u, Gono.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 Would you like me to dig up all the Turkish atrocities? You think there arent any?? Ha. That SAS mistake PALES in comparison.
P.s - Go rape a cow you miserable turkish fuck.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 we well know Queen sent all thieves, killers, disordered beasts and prostitutes to the colonies to purify the mainland from the dirt.
You are genetically defect.
Rape yourself. STD.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 LOL. Not true. You're thinking of AUSTRALIA. That's where they sent convicts. Its a well known fact that New Zealand never had any convicts arrive. Our country is made up of Irish and Scottish immigrants....Nowadays its full of South East Asian and Pacific Island immigrants. Multi-cultural....Unlike Turkey who MURDERS anyone in their country that is different. Face it, your country is shit and your morals are fucked. Still arrogant? You cant talk down to me, its just ridiculous. Give up.
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slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 I see you deleted your post. Good. In it you say you're proud to be a barbarian, when a few posts earlier you were claiming not to be? Your father and grandfather are probably lying....You dont think Kiwis did the same thing? We're a far more peaceful, good-natured country purely because the evil your people have committed over the years is ingrained in you. You're scum. Genocide, murder, atrocities, would you like me to post them all again? You lost this argument 5 posts ago, fuck off.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 yes, i've deleted my post, decided not to share my parents memories with bad mannered kiwi.
i am not counting the posts, not tryin' to prove anything. Already everybody knows the truth. Freedom is having ability to make decision between yes and no. i said "no" more respect to the liar servants.
u and your elite SAS peacekeepers won, innocent ppl born on strategic lands lost. r u happy?
slv971 11 months ago
@slv971 I only started arguing because you posted saying you dont respect New Zealand. I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time. It's very hypocritical, and arrogant. I also found it to be rude, and that's why I have been rude back to you.
I think you just dont like european/western people. I think you're racist.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@tripe2004 i suggest you to watch the following documenteries carefully. they are very useful for all of us:
Attila 74: The Rape of Cyprus (1975)
Voice of Blood & VoB 2: Searching for Selden
both made by Greek authors.
simply, war is the nature being but my nation is tired of fighting.
you are wrong, i dont like easterner especially arabs and chinese, i am exactly European, and perfectionist.
Finally western politicans are pusher. Saddam was more humanitarian. Remember Ruanda massacre.
slv971 11 months ago
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@slv971 You didnt answer my question. I want to know why you think you can respect Turkey and not New Zealand, when Turkey has done far, far worse things over a longer period of time? It's very hypocritical, and arrogant.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@slv971
Im not going to watch those docos. I already know the facts.
I am wrong, sure, okay, so you may not be racist towards westerners, but your racist towards arabs and chinese....What the fuck is wrong with you? No morals, just hatred.
LOL. Saddam was humanitarian? I may have been against the Iraq war, but THAT is absolutely fucking insane and ridiculous. You Turks think genocide and ethnic cleansing is humanitarian, and THAT is why you dont understand anything. Evil murderous brutes.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@slv971 Your country oppresses Cyprus, killing unarmed civilians. Your country has a LONG history of genocide and murder, killed about 2,000,000 Greeks, slaughtered Bulgarians, Ethnic cleansing, corruption. Atrocities against Kurdish people, Armenians, Ionians, Assyrian Christians. Turkish traditional christmas eve party. Murder in the millions. Ever heard of the saying "he who lives in a glass house, shouldn't throw stones?" FUCK Turkey. FUCK you. Your country is responsible for ALOT of evil.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@slv971 "An investigation by the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force and the New Zealand Defence Force has confirmed that New Zealand SAS soldiers fired in self-defence in a joint NZSAS and Afghan operation in Kabul on Christmas Eve.
Video footage of the operation shows that the New Zealanders were fired upon first, says Chief of Defence Force Lieutenant General Jerry Mateparae. "
...and there you have it. Idiot.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 Imperialist forces are always right. Its your camera, your Chief, your history and your propaganda.
If we were barbarian, why ANZAC and GB soldiers refused to use gas masks and said "Turks are brave fighters, dont use gas"?
15.05.2009 US-led troops in Afghanistan used Turkish flag "for protection".Turkey's military representative to NATO stating "that due to Turkey's complaint, NATO alerted other countries not to use Turkish flag during attacks in Afghanistan"
This is the difference.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 Being brave doesnt stop you from being a Barbarian. Lol, thats the stupidest statement you've made so far. Your people might as well crawl around on hands and knees because your scum ridden genocidal dogs. Nothing you've said in this post can take away from the fact that your country is responsible for FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR MORE death, destruction and atrocity than my country. So much more its ridiculous for you to even bother arguing. Blood on your hands, money on your mind. Pure scum.
tripe2004 1 year ago
Has nothing to do with Israel. None of that changes the fact Turkey sucks dick (I had alot of respect for Turkey before I started this "conversation" with you - You've shown Turkish people to be rude, arrogant, disrespectful and very, very, VERY PETTY) Get fucked.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 you crashed? i am sure there are many respectful people in NZ, but, u r personally NOT.
slv971 1 year ago
Bullshit. You cant make such claims of imperialism to my country and deny Turkey's long relationship with larger powers. All the way from the ottoman empire to now sucking americas cock, in the "coalition." We didnt send troops, we sent engineers to iraq. We said no to combat. Youre an arrogant, completely hypocritical bastard, i now have NO respect for your country. Theres a MILLION other countries you could disrespect before mine, countries who have done far worse. Why bother?
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004, yes, its partially true.
we r not sucking americans. US is 7th larger economy, first 6 are companies. money talks.
yes, There are many countries i disrespect before you.
next time, do not send men in uniform and change my mind. u will be disrespectful until that day.
kauri snail
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 ahahaha, what a loser.....So imperialism and colonisation is evil, but money talks and America is okay, sure. What the fuck. Are you 12? Do you not understand that money motivates imperialism? Do you not see this?
Next time, dont sit on your high horse casting judgement on countries and people who are far more morally sound than you are. Turkey has far more to answer for than our tiny country. Just out for money, we dont borrow/invade countries for money like Turkey and the U.S.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 u cant invade countries, u fight for invaders. worm
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 No we've already proven thats what TURKEY does. NZ is not in the coalition of the willing, because we had the balls to say we werent willing to invade a country.
How does it feel to be wrong?
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 cum on..kiwis cant fly.
if you have balls, go to the UN and say "stop invasion", "freedom for all".
Send troops to iraq to kick invaders out.
Do you really believe u plead?
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 We dont have troops, we have peacekeepers. Why doesnt TURKEY go to the UN or send troops to kick invaders out? You're the one thats bitching and whining about it. You're the one thats accusing other countries. Its YOUR country that is partly to blame. Idiot. We do as much as we can to help iraqi and afghani citizens. YOUR country is the one that just looks out for itself and for how much money it can make and how much support it can get from U.S. Your country is shit. Get fucked.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004,
29.01.2009 Turkey's prime minister has stormed off the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos after a heated debate on Gaza with Israel's president.
31.05.2010 Israeli Forces raided and seized the MV Mavi Marmara in international waters. In the violent clash that followed, nine activists were killed.
12.08.2009 NZ government is redeploying elite SAS troops to the occupation of Afghanistan. The decision follows a request from the Obama administration.
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slv971 1 year ago
@tripe2004
19.01.2010 Brazil and Turkey have urged fellow members of the UN Security Council to heed a deal they struck with Iran over its nuclear programme. "Brazil and Turkey are convinced that it is time to give a chance for negotiations and to avoid measures that are detrimental to a peaceful solution of this matter," the foreign ministers of Brazil and Turkey said in the letter to the UN Security Council.
Enough?
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 Search Wikipedia for 'The Coalition Of The Willing' ...Look at the list of countries that were a part of the coalition of the willing, the INVADERS OF IRAQ led by America and Britain....I DONT see NEW ZEALAND....I DO SEE TURKEY. Now you see you are an ignorant hypocrite? Now you see you are wrong? Do a little research before you make rude and disrepectful statements and wild accusations with no basis. Arrogant little man.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 , yes, we have troops in northern iraq since 1983. Border Security and Co-operation Agreement allows this situation. its legal and signed between Turkish and free Iraqi governments many years before invasion. Inviders are pushing us to leave, and support terrorists since 1990.
Kiwis said NO, then sent troops? weird.
are you sure they were there for mine cleaning? would it be the new movie:
mission for oil: from bagdad with love
its your turn, warble kakariki!
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 ...Look at the list of countries that were a part of the coalition of the willing, google it. ...the INVADERS OF IRAQ led by America and Britain....I DONT see NEW ZEALAND....I DO SEE TURKEY. Now you see you are an ignorant hypocrite? Now you see you are wrong? Do a little research before you make rude and disrepectful statements and wild accusations with no basis. Arrogant little man.
tripe2004 1 year ago
Im insulting, and you're not? You're disrespectful, rude and assuming. Ummmm, how can you say Turkey was not part of the Ottoman empire? Istanbul was the CAPITAL of the empire you ridiculous man....and YES we have turned down both England AND America. They asked us to go to Iraq, we said no. The asked us for a full troop commitment to Afghanistan, we sent only engineers to rebuild the country. We, a tiny country, told the U.S to fuck off when they tried to bring nuclear ships into our ports.
tripe2004 1 year ago
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The meaning of anzac day is to take 1 day out of our lives to pay tribute to the people who set up the foundations for the free world we live in by defeating the austro-hungarian empire to enable us to live in a country thats not under tyanny which is most places in the world
ekerdel1 1 year ago
The meaning of anzac day is to take 1 day out of our lives to pay tribute to the people who set up the foundations for the free world we live in by defeating the austro-hungarian empire to enable us to live in a country thats not under tyanny which is most places in the world
ekerdel1 1 year ago
how did the allies win honour?!?! what is honour to them? invading and killing 253000 Turks in Turkey? Turkey was not going to invade any one! SO why the aggression? How is this move by the Anzac any different than Nazi invasion of Poland? Shame on them.
randominitializer 1 year ago
@randominitializer
It wasnt the ANZACs that led the invasion. The BRITISH led the attack. There were more UK troops in Gallipolli than ANZACs. ANZAC troops didnt know where they were going, they thought theyd be going to fight germany in france and belgium. Blame the english. ANZACs had more respect for turkish soldiers than their British commanders because of this campaign. Ottoman empire aligned themselves with germany and austria as allies. YOU declared war, THAT is why YOU were attacked.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 are you insane? Germany, Ottoman did not declare war. They participated in a war to defend their allies, just like Britain, France did. Germany, Ottomans were no more guilty than the French or Brits. And away with ur BS abt ANZACS not knowing where they are going. that's such a Disney tale! anzacs knew they are attacking turkey. australians volunteered to invade and kill turks. australia and new zealand were part of britain so dont try to confuse others. it wont work.
randominitializer 1 year ago
@randominitializer
Who declared war on who is semantics. The point is both sides were equally to blame, you cant say that ANZACs are more to blame than Turks for Gallipolli. THAT is insane, and all im saying is that it is wrong. Which it is. Individual ANZAC soldiers DID NOT KNOW where they were being sent. Battalion commanders did, but they had no control over it. It was british generals who organised the campaign and ordered our troops to the front lines. New Zealand commanders had no control
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 i am certain now that you are insane. if i have to agree with you, then americans are equally responsible for 9/11. anzacs were invaders. there was no possibility of turks invading australia or england. if u cant distinguish red from green then i have nothing else to say.
randominitializer 11 months ago
@randominitializer
Americans are, to a degree, responsible for 9/11. They have been covertly involved in middle eastern affairs for decades in order to gain control of assets like oil, and to make sure they had friendly puppets in control of governments so they would cooperate.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@randominitializer
Do you even know why british generals sent our ANZACs to invade Turkey? You were an enemy country. "The Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers in the war, the secret Ottoman-German Alliance having been signed in August 1914. It threatened Russia's Caucasian territories and Britain's communications with India via the Suez Canal."
You invaded the russian caucuses. YOU were invaders too. Russia was our ally, just like Germany was yours. Turkey was not an innocent victim.
tripe2004 11 months ago
@randominitializer mate england did not see turkey as threat to englland or australia and nz, there saw them as well as germany as a threat to france. britain told the anzacs to attack turkey as a distraction so the the brits could defend france more easily
buffalo827 9 months ago
@buffalo827 seriously who taught you history lessons? Well I am not surprised. We all have been forced to accept the lie without using our brain. Invasion of Turkey occurred at the end of world war I. When there was absolutely no threat from Turkey to anyone, france or england. Turkey was only occupied with wars against its own colony in Greece and Balkan. It was losing wars against its own colonies, let alone invading France, Use your brain and think, think and think. don't get brainwashed.
randominitializer 9 months ago
@randominitializer The invasion happened in the beginning of the war, in 1915, The invasion came about because the British politicians believed in the take out the allies of Germany and win the war theory rather than the take out the German army and the allies of Germany will fall theory.
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Gelibolu IS FAKE NAME. THE REAL NAME IS KALLIPOLIS AND IS GREEK
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unfukkkmee 1 year ago
Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives, you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. therefore rest in peace. there is no difference between the johnnies and the mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours.
you, the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears, your sons are now lying in our bosoms and are in peace. after having lost their lives on this land they become our sons as well.
Kemal ATATURK
XxmehmetxXC 1 year ago
all the world is so blind.. Why people dont know about that war ? this is one of the biggest story for freedom... Do you know where is australia ? where the anzac's came from ? and do you know where is the Turkey ? so many country must ashamed for that... and where is the hollywood they do their film like a hero story to using atom bombs or "savin private ryan"... bullshit :) they must filmed this story but they cant because they lose it and they have no right to war !!! Anyway hope no war again
vispo2 1 year ago
New Zealand sent 61 troops to Iraq to support coalition forces (mine-cleaning), Aussies sent 2000 for active invasion. Many soldiers from Bagdad, Basra, and the other cities of today's Iraq lost their lives in Gallipoli. So, aus & nz sent their troops to fight against the line of those martyrs.
All written and told for peace were lie. War is the nature of human being, I do not judge coalition forces for their policy, but, I do not respect these two countries anymore.
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slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 How about you shut your mouth? Turkey, never used to be a Islamic state full of violent brainwashed individuals. It used to be home to many of Christians and some Jews who were kicked out their own country and many of the survivors butchered for simply not converting or accepting that political filth you call a religion.
So do not even talk to about respect!
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@Sonnypjim09 Your sound seems like "Hohner Sonny".
First of all, READ above CAREFULLY. Is there any "religion" word
there? You can call me as Ataturk's youth, idealist, secularist, but
dont dont even say islamic.
pls search "Fakhri pasha" on wiki, and then "siege of Medina".
Hes my relative, also my grandpa was there.
So, what should I think on Arabs and their religion.
But, liar is liar, AUS n NZ politicians are liar. Clear?
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 What you're saying does not make sense. Try again.
Like I said, Islam encourages the spreading of violence through "Gods" laws. That last word says it all about that religion.
an Turkey is mainly Islamic, if not all, so jog on. Thanks.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@slv971 dirty turk.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 i use to take a shower every day. So, not so dirty. i can send a soap to your politicians to gurgle 3 times a day.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971
"used to take a shower?" That implies you dont anymore. What is your problem with NZ? The english are to blame for Gallipolli, not us. We were SENT there under british orders not knowing what was going to happen, since then we've wanted no part in war. Ottoman empire is just as much to blame for ww1 as england and germany are. It was a war of pacts and egos, to say its all our fault is fucked up. Fuck you, jerk off.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 , As you wrote, You were SENT there under British orders.
But now, you know what is going to happen.
Thats what im trying to say.
Pls be polite, i am not angry to your ppl, but politicians.
I wish to see AUS and NZ isolate themselves from these strategy games.
In iraq, your goverment wanted to say " we are here and we will be with you forever".
Its symbolic but enough for the message.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 Im sorry but you dont speak very good english so i dont understand what your point is. I dont speak for AUS, I speak for NZ who you've condemned for no good reason. You're mistaken if you think we follow britain blindly....We make our own decisions and are a peaceful country who instead of an army, has "peacekeepers," we are a noble and righteous country, and proud of it. We do not start wars or support illegal wars. You compare us to AUS too much.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 , AUS and NZ are still British colonies. They are in the same pot. I hope Kiwi government makes an effort to keep their country tidy, and stay away from the middle east arena in the future.Tnx.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 What the fuck do you know about it? You group us all together based on what??? We WERE a british colony. We govern ourselves now, the only links to britain we still have are trivial and ceremonial. We dont share their foreign policy at all. Youve shown your ignorance. I know you know NOTHING of my country except geographically where we are placed, and if you dont want us to come and clean up after the americans and british have fucked the countries up, who will pick up the pieces? Prick
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004 Constitutional monarchy is not independence in my dictionary.
They were ordering troops, now asking. This is the difference.
The success is to stand against imperialism as Turks did after the ww1, not picking the pieces after countries destroyed.
All for more profit, show up Kiwis!
However, I am not judging NZ, sending troops was the most reasonable decision. But I do not respect.
Pls be polite, I am not fighting. its discussion.
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971 Stop asking me to be polite, you're telling me you dont respect my country. That is NOT being polite. The monarchy is a joke, the Queen controls nothing. Its all ceremonial. They WERE ordering us, around a hundred years ago. Just like TURKEY was part of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE.They may still ask us to do things, but we turn them down. They also asked every other country with an army on the planet too - Do you disrespect them all as well? Im sure they would have asked Turkey to support. Idiot.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004, you are still insulting. it will be difficult to civilize you.
TURKEY was NOT part of the OTTOMANS unlike the other 22 countries taking place on the Empire's map. Flag is the same. Turks were administer.
Planet is full of enemies and frenemies. They never asked us to support with our troops. Because they very well know we are not two-faced. Have Kiwiland ever turned them down?
U can't. U r not the ruler, only the number.
Her Majesty's loyal servant : 0064
pot, i-pot
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971
I dont understand why you dont "respect" NZ anymore? What have we done to your country? If you're judging us for sending our ENGINEERS to Iraq and Afghanistan, then you're an idiot. We didnt send any frontline troops....They have cleared mines so Iraqi children dont lose legs, they have built schools so they can learn, and infrastructure so that the countries can rebuild themselves. We have never supported the invasion. Infact, we help clean up Americas mess while getting shot at.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@tripe2004, NEW SOUTH WALES PARLIAMENT PASSES MOTION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE MEMORIAL Sydney:- On Wednesday 29 April 1998, the New South Wales (NSW) State Parliament passed a motion accepting the establishment of a memorial within the precincts of the NSW State Parliament honouring the memory of the 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children who fell victim to the 1915-23 genocide perpetrated by the Ottoman Turkish Government.
Oh u r from NZ, another colony, same mentality
slv971 1 year ago
@slv971
So Australia, who has a large armenian population, puts up a genocide memorial....What significance is this? It has nothing to do with NZ. If you knew anything about NZ you would know we've politically been a completely different country to AUSTRALIA. We distance ourselves from them completely. Our government has always been alot more left of theirs, and we've always been pro-civil rights and always anti-war. To say we have the same mentality shows your ignorance on this topic.
tripe2004 1 year ago
@slv971 So no respect for New Zealand and Australia eh?
What do you think of people who go out and blow up and destroy innocent civilians lives like with car bombs in Iraq?
I don't agree with the New Zealand or Australian troops being over there but I respect them because there dying to help people, they pretty much sign there lives away to help another nation.
lucilleAmiel 9 months ago
@lucilleAmiel are you serious? I hope you are not natural blockhead like the other servants below. Read something useful instead Harry Potter, then think why those ppl are going out and blow up. Are they maniac or something is wrong in iraq? Yes, your elites are there to help but to whom? Only being a naval soldier in "HMAS Success" is the harmless way to help people.
slv971 9 months ago
@slv971 Are you a fuckhead?
Gotta love you keyboard heros :)
Oh and when you type in English you usually put 'a' and 'of' like are you A natural blockhead?
AND OTHER SERVANTS BELOW?
Whats that supposed to mean that everyone who disagrees with your obviously fucked opinion is a servant? That we just do as we are told?
Grow up dickhead, people are expressing there opinions just like you did was I rude to you when I commented no I was just asking you a simple question so go fuck yourself :)
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slv971 9 months ago
@lucilleAmiel Damn,u r n s expert, biting like A pittbull.dunt worry honey bee,i ve seen aussie defects like u before.why all OF u start writing words on sexual activities n organs when someone drives u crazy?u sailor 2?Dont hide yrself,i can see whatta disgusting soul all u have.Wash yr mouth with “krizol”(*c below) and b baptist sister, teach arab guys the beauty OF christchurch.shake m s lovely Gertrude Bell II.
Otherwise,all u can do is 2 carry toilet paper 4 ms.Hilton!u know what i mean ;)
slv971 9 months ago
@slv971 Hey mate, Australia and NZ are ordered under British rule. Obviously you are not from either of these 2 countries so why do you feel the need to visit a page on youtube that means so much to us, just to leave a dis respectful comment ? ANZAC day makes me feel more proud to be Australian than any other day, but you wouldnt understand this coz your not from here, mate.
888kabe 9 months ago
@888kabe tnx for your polite reply. Turks lost 253000 men(incl.my granduncle) there that means so much to us too. Sending soldiers to fight against the line of iraqi origined martyrs is disrespectul. I respect ANZACs who lost their life in Gallipoli, and understand your feelings well.But, no respect to your politicians. Good day!
slv971 9 months ago