Haha I'm digging the gelled hair... That was awesome in '95... especially when I was a kid and not a 50 yr old man lacking a wedding band. You are lacking in the class department.
Obama wants to Tax the Upper Class,more! And Tax trailer trash less. Upper Class Republicans already pay 80% of this county's tax, and should not have to pay more. Republicans in the Upper class will end up paying to fund correctional institutes and prisons where trailer park families normally end up. Here's the catch: those trailer park families wont have to pay a penny for the sons or daughters in prison, Republicans probably on the otherside of the country will.
Well today the Liberals within the Dem party are now trying to oust the "Blue Dog Dems", because they're tired of not being able to shove things down our throats.
The two parties are both a joke and the majority of them are cattle....they don't actually care enough. They will vote for whom the tv tells them to vote.
The 2 parties are a fraud. Both sides are full of puppets who bend over for other interests not the american people. Just look at the bail out.
Liberals are trash. Especially the ones who sprouted forth around the 1960s. They are the insidious fiends of the far left created to destroy Christianity and the Western CIVILIZATION.
@GodAndtheRepublic You are a total fool. You are close minded, uneducated, and not tolerant of anything you don't agree with. How do you know Christianity is the TRUE religion, if any at all are true? Exactly...you DON'T. The bible is not proof, there IS NO PROOF. You bible thumping assholes are so ignorant its insane. Your view is: If it's not what I believe in, it's wrong. How mature of you. Show me proof, or even evidence of god's existence....oh yea, you can't.
@GodAndtheRepublic Still waiting for proof of God's existence you poor Christian sap. Oh yea, you don't have any. Never did, never will. Enjoy your right wing socially backward fantasy land. Pro life, gun toting assholes who barely got their GED. Have fun at your construction job, blue collar chicken shit.
I sincerely disagree. I do not believe that there were many, if any, liberal republicans bacause the liberal beliefs do not coincide with those of the republican party. Furthermore, I believe that the hate spewed by liberals is much of the cause for the rivalry between the parties.
Since the early 1900's there has been great amounts of federal action to control the free market.
All other economical problems have come from the fact that the free market has to deal with these fascist laws.
Liberals still criticize the "free market" because the feds have done their very best to be the only solution to your lazy ass problems with true freedom.
The feds seek power from your laziness and sense of entitlement.
@BallsInYourJawsBitch You are fucking idiot. What about the "liberals" who work hard and still fall short and can't make ends meat? Up the taxes...WAY up for the wealthy, and give back to the people working just as hard if not harder. fucking blue collar, uneducated redneck republicans who love their guns (2nd amendment = bullshit....sorry, its not the 17th century anymore).
Your name calling like "fool" and "idiot" mean nothing from a person who writes "ends meat". I'm no grammar expert, but when someone calls another an idiot, they better be somewhat aware that making "ends meat" is not the proper usage of the phrase.
You've been educated by a redneck southerner. Oh lord, son. Check your ass before you complain of someone else's stench.
Why you seem to be getting such flack on this I don't know. I think you're right. Liberals have no representation. As I see it, business lobbies control both sides. I do not subscribe to the idiotic assessment some make that both parties are the same or that we shouldn't vote. On the contrary, vote left, vote always. We need a serious grass roots movement like the 60's.
I agree that Republicans are not conservatives and that Democrats are not liberals. The names Democrat or Republican actually have no meaning at all, whereas conservative and liberal hold all meaning in debate.
The failure in argument, which is mostly from the liberal side is that liberals will point to Republicans to prove their point. Sean Hannity and Rush use this tactic in opposition too.
I am a conservative, and I find no valid argument for liberalism. This is the biggest argument.
Now that you have see four months of Mr B Hussein O, are you going to revise what you thought of him earlier , namely liberal on "some" positions and "conservative" on others ??
The truth is liberals can win elections ONLY by hiding who they are and by sounding conservative on the campaign trail ? They talk "tax cuts to 95% of people", and personal responsibility, and wasteful spending cuts and line item veto and "middle ground on abortion" (whatever that is)..
and they manage to fool enough people into getting elected. It's sad so many conservatives fell for this ruse and as a result we have this most ultra ultra radical communist in the White House. I hope these pseudo conservative intellectuals are happy now.
The truth of the matter is that the hardcore political elements on both sides only make up 1/3 of the population. The other 2/3 of the population subscribe to both "conservative" ideas like tax cuts or restrained spending and "liberal" ideas like, say, public education and minimum wage standards. Obama didn't just sound conservative. He took good ideas from both sides and pissed off the hard cores on both sides. He is also facing a major national crisis at the level of 9/11 right now.
What was it that people were saying after 9/11? Let the President do what he needs to do to keep us safe? I don't want anyone to have a blank check but I gave Bush a lot of latitude after 9/11 and I'll give Obama latitude now.
Neither of us know for certain that we wouldn't be out in a tent city somewhere without the steps he is taking. How is a trillion on a war any different than a trillion saving the economy? Don't they both end really badly otherwise?
@Plisko1 -the problem is that once you study where the money has been spent it becomes obvious that this is payola to the unions that put the poser in the WH and has stimulated a damn thing.
@Plisko1 Obama's "end justifies the means" approach to gaining his goals is too hard on the Constitution. If a person uses tactics to "get around" or circumvent law instead of changing the law they are not being honest. I have a hard time following someone who is not genuine, how can you trust them?
As I said above, we can redefine things all day long but the conversation required popular terms in order to make it's point. This is about influencing the power structure in the government that exists today, not some pissing contest about the finer points of conservatism and liberalism.
Yeah but your completely lost dude. Conservatives are anti-megastructure in government. You can define a liberal 1,000 ways but there is one way to define a conservative: Small government, protect the constitution, and less globalization like the U.N. That is exactly what you sound like you want but you got your words mixed up (conservatives/liberals). If you don't wake up by 2010 we will be ran 100% by the New World Order. American is on its last days because of liberals (Bush, Obama).
1) The Democratic Party is not "liberal". It's socialist-statist. The Republican party is just plain fascist. Neither party is "liberal". Both are Statist-Collectivist.
2) "Liberal" and "Conservative" are not opposites on the continuum. They aren't even on the same axis.
The opposite of liberal is anti-liberal.
Conservative is center on the continuum between Regressive and Progressive.
We can sit here and spout political buzzwords all day but the mainstream political climate defines terms much differently than you are. Today, "conservative" and "liberal" are both defined by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and other mouthpieces that create public perception. We can redefine this discussion into oblivion but it won't really serve much purpose.
No. These terms are well-established. They've just been perverted over time by an establishment who wishes for us to be confused.
Why should we let Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity & Limbaugh destroy our language and trick us into believing that "libertal" = progressive socialist-statism?
I think it's dangerous for the establishment to redefine words. Essentially, that's revising history.
what about the liberals that are democrats, The clintons, John edwards, john kerry, Barack obama, ted kennedy, ted kolungosky[ governor of my homestate of oregon] Sam adams[ mayor of portland] al gore. If any body supports positions like abortion or gay rights or adultery, Theyre more than likely liberals more than anything else. You are right though about republicans on that as well, if guys like john mccain dont regret their mistakes. John mccains better than that though in my opinion.
I gave 3 approaches. One was to wage war on conservatives within the party and purge them. The other is to break off and destroy the power of the party by forming a liberal third party. Only the last option involved accepting both sides within the party.
I guess this is where I say you are a neocon and you prove it by making up your own idea of what someone is and not paying attention to what they actually say.
American Conservatism and Liberalism both have mental disorders within their ranks. Liberals tend toward egalitarian neurosis while conservatives lean toward authoritarian neurosis.
Both sides develop codependent "drones" who need to feel like they are part of the special group, so they spout the party dogma and slogans without really examining the details of what they talk about.
While what you say is true, I have to ask-- is that good enough?
Is it ever good enough to accept what you have?
Or should you work towards what is possible?
Should you work to improve things, or leave them as they are?
I'm an Eagle Scout, and one of the many creeds we learned as Scouts was the Outdoor Code. Part of that particular code of honor is that you always leave a place better than you found it.
I'm not arguing against improving things. On the contrary: It has always been part of the Republican strategy to leverage the Democratic party's diversity against itself and then accuse Democrats of being "liberals" who don't stand for anything.
Liberals should be breaking down the myths and distortions about liberalism and taking back the definition, not reinforcing the meme of weakness and ineffectiveness that already exists.
Oh I don't at all. You've been quite civil, and I appreciate that.
I would recommend the book "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing" by Stephen Marshall. It uncovers the roots of neo-conservatism, and puts it in the perspective of the international community.
Actually, Liberals, by the international definition, are not what we think they are here in the US of A. They believe in strong interventionism in foreign policy. George W Bush, by this definition is one of the most liberal presidents we've had
dude you have it all wrong, hes not saying the liberals are lazy or that they dont stand up for themselves. Hes talking about people who dont vote and people who dont participate in there government at all. And hes right you cant whine if you not voting or your voting for people you dont want based on others views and not there own.
Well that applies to just about everyone from all political backgrounds. Liberals are no more or less a problem in that area. The candidates he all mentioned were Democrats and the same problem remains. No matter how engaged the liberals get in politics the candidates are still going to be voted on by all factions in the Democratic party. As long as Democrats are called "libruls" people will always bring up "lack of principles" rather than competing interests/compromises within the party.
This idiot is a stupid ass.
joey3846 4 months ago
Haha I'm digging the gelled hair... That was awesome in '95... especially when I was a kid and not a 50 yr old man lacking a wedding band. You are lacking in the class department.
wolfy7812 5 months ago
Obama wants to Tax the Upper Class,more! And Tax trailer trash less. Upper Class Republicans already pay 80% of this county's tax, and should not have to pay more. Republicans in the Upper class will end up paying to fund correctional institutes and prisons where trailer park families normally end up. Here's the catch: those trailer park families wont have to pay a penny for the sons or daughters in prison, Republicans probably on the otherside of the country will.
iLeaveCommenttz 10 months ago
Both you guys are boring.
cbs71omaha 1 year ago
Well today the Liberals within the Dem party are now trying to oust the "Blue Dog Dems", because they're tired of not being able to shove things down our throats.
Malvisk 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this. My faith in the American public has been given a boost.
friedie1jeff 1 year ago
you are the epitome of what the punk patriot is talking about plisko1!
mandy26lez 1 year ago
You have great points, but I was a "lib" and I was too radical for them so I decided to say fuck them. Liberal don't have balls.
eatadicc 1 year ago
The two parties are both a joke and the majority of them are cattle....they don't actually care enough. They will vote for whom the tv tells them to vote.
The 2 parties are a fraud. Both sides are full of puppets who bend over for other interests not the american people. Just look at the bail out.
MoparTurbo05 1 year ago 2
two party duopoly 99% they are owned by the CFR / Bilderberg
jacobpsweeney 2 years ago
Liberals are trash. Especially the ones who sprouted forth around the 1960s. They are the insidious fiends of the far left created to destroy Christianity and the Western CIVILIZATION.
GodAndtheRepublic 2 years ago
@GodAndtheRepublic Facts for gods existence are completely groundless. Idiot.
gr8indasack69 1 year ago
@GodAndtheRepublic You are a total fool. You are close minded, uneducated, and not tolerant of anything you don't agree with. How do you know Christianity is the TRUE religion, if any at all are true? Exactly...you DON'T. The bible is not proof, there IS NO PROOF. You bible thumping assholes are so ignorant its insane. Your view is: If it's not what I believe in, it's wrong. How mature of you. Show me proof, or even evidence of god's existence....oh yea, you can't.
ChowderDingus 1 year ago
@GodAndtheRepublic Still waiting for proof of God's existence you poor Christian sap. Oh yea, you don't have any. Never did, never will. Enjoy your right wing socially backward fantasy land. Pro life, gun toting assholes who barely got their GED. Have fun at your construction job, blue collar chicken shit.
ChowderDingus 1 year ago
Liberals can't right this guy is so wrong. This guy has a gay mans tone so hes lying.Fuck Murtha who hates our troops.
goliddy3 2 years ago
Murtha a conservative?? are you fucking serious? shut up
chitown1966 2 years ago
I sincerely disagree. I do not believe that there were many, if any, liberal republicans bacause the liberal beliefs do not coincide with those of the republican party. Furthermore, I believe that the hate spewed by liberals is much of the cause for the rivalry between the parties.
dothetwist123 2 years ago
Here is the rundown for why I hate liberals.
Since the early 1900's there has been great amounts of federal action to control the free market.
All other economical problems have come from the fact that the free market has to deal with these fascist laws.
Liberals still criticize the "free market" because the feds have done their very best to be the only solution to your lazy ass problems with true freedom.
The feds seek power from your laziness and sense of entitlement.
BallsInYourJawsBitch 2 years ago
@BallsInYourJawsBitch You are fucking idiot. What about the "liberals" who work hard and still fall short and can't make ends meat? Up the taxes...WAY up for the wealthy, and give back to the people working just as hard if not harder. fucking blue collar, uneducated redneck republicans who love their guns (2nd amendment = bullshit....sorry, its not the 17th century anymore).
ChowderDingus 1 year ago
@ChowderDingus Work harder.
Your name calling like "fool" and "idiot" mean nothing from a person who writes "ends meat". I'm no grammar expert, but when someone calls another an idiot, they better be somewhat aware that making "ends meat" is not the proper usage of the phrase.
You've been educated by a redneck southerner. Oh lord, son. Check your ass before you complain of someone else's stench.
How does one prepare and cook ends meat?
BallsInYourJawsBitch 1 year ago
Why you seem to be getting such flack on this I don't know. I think you're right. Liberals have no representation. As I see it, business lobbies control both sides. I do not subscribe to the idiotic assessment some make that both parties are the same or that we shouldn't vote. On the contrary, vote left, vote always. We need a serious grass roots movement like the 60's.
Great stuff man.
TheFrankFactor 2 years ago
I agree that Republicans are not conservatives and that Democrats are not liberals. The names Democrat or Republican actually have no meaning at all, whereas conservative and liberal hold all meaning in debate.
The failure in argument, which is mostly from the liberal side is that liberals will point to Republicans to prove their point. Sean Hannity and Rush use this tactic in opposition too.
I am a conservative, and I find no valid argument for liberalism. This is the biggest argument.
BallsInYourJawsBitch 2 years ago
I agree.
Awesome video.
vault101lt 2 years ago
Well said, all punk patriot see's are lazy liberals, look at him. I'm suprized he took his mouth away from the bong long enough to make a video.
jrmsher33 2 years ago
Also republicans are liberal as fuck. They are NOT conservative.
TooGoodToFail 2 years ago
Now that you have see four months of Mr B Hussein O, are you going to revise what you thought of him earlier , namely liberal on "some" positions and "conservative" on others ??
The truth is liberals can win elections ONLY by hiding who they are and by sounding conservative on the campaign trail ? They talk "tax cuts to 95% of people", and personal responsibility, and wasteful spending cuts and line item veto and "middle ground on abortion" (whatever that is)..
DoubleGauss 2 years ago
and they manage to fool enough people into getting elected. It's sad so many conservatives fell for this ruse and as a result we have this most ultra ultra radical communist in the White House. I hope these pseudo conservative intellectuals are happy now.
DoubleGauss 2 years ago
The truth of the matter is that the hardcore political elements on both sides only make up 1/3 of the population. The other 2/3 of the population subscribe to both "conservative" ideas like tax cuts or restrained spending and "liberal" ideas like, say, public education and minimum wage standards. Obama didn't just sound conservative. He took good ideas from both sides and pissed off the hard cores on both sides. He is also facing a major national crisis at the level of 9/11 right now.
Plisko1 2 years ago
What was it that people were saying after 9/11? Let the President do what he needs to do to keep us safe? I don't want anyone to have a blank check but I gave Bush a lot of latitude after 9/11 and I'll give Obama latitude now.
Neither of us know for certain that we wouldn't be out in a tent city somewhere without the steps he is taking. How is a trillion on a war any different than a trillion saving the economy? Don't they both end really badly otherwise?
Plisko1 2 years ago
@Plisko1 -the problem is that once you study where the money has been spent it becomes obvious that this is payola to the unions that put the poser in the WH and has stimulated a damn thing.
steelersX01 1 year ago
@Plisko1 Obama's "end justifies the means" approach to gaining his goals is too hard on the Constitution. If a person uses tactics to "get around" or circumvent law instead of changing the law they are not being honest. I have a hard time following someone who is not genuine, how can you trust them?
SPAD58 1 year ago
@DoubleGauss Total fail. Finish 6th grade, hrm?
ChowderDingus 1 year ago
Democrats are liberal. There is nothing conservative about democrats or Obama. Bush is a liberal and so is the majority of the republican party.
Ron Paul is a conservative. Learn your shit.
TooGoodToFail 2 years ago
As I said above, we can redefine things all day long but the conversation required popular terms in order to make it's point. This is about influencing the power structure in the government that exists today, not some pissing contest about the finer points of conservatism and liberalism.
Plisko1 2 years ago
Yeah but your completely lost dude. Conservatives are anti-megastructure in government. You can define a liberal 1,000 ways but there is one way to define a conservative: Small government, protect the constitution, and less globalization like the U.N. That is exactly what you sound like you want but you got your words mixed up (conservatives/liberals). If you don't wake up by 2010 we will be ran 100% by the New World Order. American is on its last days because of liberals (Bush, Obama).
TooGoodToFail 2 years ago
1) The Democratic Party is not "liberal". It's socialist-statist. The Republican party is just plain fascist. Neither party is "liberal". Both are Statist-Collectivist.
2) "Liberal" and "Conservative" are not opposites on the continuum. They aren't even on the same axis.
The opposite of liberal is anti-liberal.
Conservative is center on the continuum between Regressive and Progressive.
gunsandbullhorns 3 years ago
We can sit here and spout political buzzwords all day but the mainstream political climate defines terms much differently than you are. Today, "conservative" and "liberal" are both defined by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and other mouthpieces that create public perception. We can redefine this discussion into oblivion but it won't really serve much purpose.
Plisko1 2 years ago
Political buzzwords?!
No. These terms are well-established. They've just been perverted over time by an establishment who wishes for us to be confused.
Why should we let Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity & Limbaugh destroy our language and trick us into believing that "libertal" = progressive socialist-statism?
I think it's dangerous for the establishment to redefine words. Essentially, that's revising history.
gunsandbullhorns 2 years ago
what about the liberals that are democrats, The clintons, John edwards, john kerry, Barack obama, ted kennedy, ted kolungosky[ governor of my homestate of oregon] Sam adams[ mayor of portland] al gore. If any body supports positions like abortion or gay rights or adultery, Theyre more than likely liberals more than anything else. You are right though about republicans on that as well, if guys like john mccain dont regret their mistakes. John mccains better than that though in my opinion.
jamesdragonforce 3 years ago
you are a lib, and you prove it with your gutless approach, to being both sides and commit to none,,liberalism is a mental disorder....
garys737 3 years ago
I gave 3 approaches. One was to wage war on conservatives within the party and purge them. The other is to break off and destroy the power of the party by forming a liberal third party. Only the last option involved accepting both sides within the party.
I guess this is where I say you are a neocon and you prove it by making up your own idea of what someone is and not paying attention to what they actually say.
Plisko1 3 years ago
Actually, I'm a Ron Paul conservative (not a neo-con-munist RINO), and I agree with garys737 with liberalism being a mental disorder.
Patriot Punk...think the Obama goggles video is freakin' fantastic!
DoctorJohnJGibbons 3 years ago
American Conservatism and Liberalism both have mental disorders within their ranks. Liberals tend toward egalitarian neurosis while conservatives lean toward authoritarian neurosis.
Both sides develop codependent "drones" who need to feel like they are part of the special group, so they spout the party dogma and slogans without really examining the details of what they talk about.
Plisko1 3 years ago
But, Then why vote Obama at all then? McCain had the same policies.
Come on man.. you're a douche.
michaelchainsaw 3 years ago
Sarah Palin. That's why.
There's plenty of examples to counter a lame statement like that but that's the only one I need.
Plisko1 3 years ago
Hi there, I'm the Punk Patriot.
While what you say is true, I have to ask-- is that good enough?
Is it ever good enough to accept what you have?
Or should you work towards what is possible?
Should you work to improve things, or leave them as they are?
I'm an Eagle Scout, and one of the many creeds we learned as Scouts was the Outdoor Code. Part of that particular code of honor is that you always leave a place better than you found it.
That should translate to everything you do.
trichenosis 3 years ago
I'm not arguing against improving things. On the contrary: It has always been part of the Republican strategy to leverage the Democratic party's diversity against itself and then accuse Democrats of being "liberals" who don't stand for anything.
Liberals should be breaking down the myths and distortions about liberalism and taking back the definition, not reinforcing the meme of weakness and ineffectiveness that already exists.
Plisko1 3 years ago
PS.
I do like your style and your willingness to put yourself out there. Don't take my disagreement to mean I don't appreciate what you are doing.
Plisko1 3 years ago
Oh I don't at all. You've been quite civil, and I appreciate that.
I would recommend the book "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing" by Stephen Marshall. It uncovers the roots of neo-conservatism, and puts it in the perspective of the international community.
Actually, Liberals, by the international definition, are not what we think they are here in the US of A. They believe in strong interventionism in foreign policy. George W Bush, by this definition is one of the most liberal presidents we've had
trichenosis 3 years ago
Maybe I should have said "US Liberals?"
Plisko1 3 years ago
dude you have it all wrong, hes not saying the liberals are lazy or that they dont stand up for themselves. Hes talking about people who dont vote and people who dont participate in there government at all. And hes right you cant whine if you not voting or your voting for people you dont want based on others views and not there own.
QUEENFETUS 3 years ago
Well that applies to just about everyone from all political backgrounds. Liberals are no more or less a problem in that area. The candidates he all mentioned were Democrats and the same problem remains. No matter how engaged the liberals get in politics the candidates are still going to be voted on by all factions in the Democratic party. As long as Democrats are called "libruls" people will always bring up "lack of principles" rather than competing interests/compromises within the party.
Plisko1 3 years ago
Nice job. Strong rebuttal
DJCritterH 3 years ago