05 Gloria in excelsis Deo!

[basicaa]

Light looked down and saw darkness. “I will go there,” said light. Peace looked down and saw war. “I will go there,” said Peace. Love looked down and saw hatred. “I will go there,” said Love. So He, the Lord of Light, the Prince of Peace, the King of Love, came down and crept in beside us.

[Metallica102938]

ROFL the director at the end

[AhamBrahman]

dear fucking god. This is truly glorious. Bach blows the mind open.

[numberonefergiefan]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEIR FACES

[merlin17022008]

einfach wunderbar !!!

[lukapentsi]

This is older than Harry Potter, lol, it goes deeper in a very old tradition. It is the choir in continuous tradition that once was directed by Johann Sebastian Bach. The Thomas choir of Leipzig. This is one of the German choirs with a long,a very long music tradition. Actually one of the oldest. They will celebrate their 800 th birthday in 2012. The directing Thomas cantor you see being in a direct line with his successor Bach. You are listening to living music history... Enjoy.

[Cucubau1018]

@lukapentsi and still, Harry Potter is present at 1:38 :))

[JSasRays]

why do all the kids look retarded?

[maricristinacastel]

maravillosos!!! thanks a lot !

[OhEmGee215]

they look like they are fron Harry Potter

[Megaerathia]

@OhEmGee215 All american look like they're in mcdonalds 24/7.

[OhEmGee215]

@Megaerathia I wasn't trying to be mean. i was just saying because the r whering robes and glass they look like they are from harry potter. i am in my school honor choir and we sang gloria deo ,but in a different way : )

[wcbroccoli]

@OhEmGee215 What robes? The sopranos and altos are wearing 19th c. sailor suits. The tenor and basses are wearing suits.

[OhEmGee215]

@wcbroccoli well watever dont need to be so specific i just said they look like harry potter

[wcbroccoli]

@OhEmGee215 Oh, but you were rather more specific in your original observation. You didn't just say "they look like harry potter." You said they look like [they're from] "Harry Potter" BECAUSE "they're wearing robes and glasses." But as I noted, none of them are wearing robes.

[1y]

Well, were all these boys from the same school ? They all have rather blond hairs and grey or clear eyes...

[Vinfee]

@1y yeah they are all from the same school. The choir has its own boarding school. Search for Thomanerchor on wikipedia if you want to learn more about them.

[1y]

@Vinfee

Thank you. I was asking to know the interpreter but also because there is an obvious social homogeneity in this group.

[wcbroccoli]

@1y Yeah, they all dress alike. lol

[wcbroccoli]

@Vinfee In Bach's day, not all the St. Thomas School's students boarded at the school. There were many "externi", i.e., students who did not board at the school, yet participated in the school's activities, including training, rehearsals and performances. Bach's own sons were externi.

[Wally773MTG]

@MrMedal77 ....it took you 4 months to come up with that? Hahahahaha. Please never have children.

[PaPaMideNite3]

Parabéns!(Congratulations)...

[guggemuus]

Beneidenswerte Musiker, zu Ehren Gottes singen adelt alles, Bach hört sicher im Himmel zu:)

[Hansi692]

blöd

[Ventura2050]

Check out the hits at channel: Ironic Ping Pong

[acbulgin2]

I love this!

[MrTubeandWatch]

Pretty, though one kid would not drop his jaw! lol

[kotetsu131]

I do love how whenever a piccolo trumpet shows up in ANYTHING that's ALL you care about when you keep listening :) Although I am biased...and this is a very gutsy performance of the work, I like it.

[alextornupinside]

Was für eine Performance, was hätte ich gegeben, um dort in der Kirche sein zu können... Gänsehaut pur, einfach unglaublich:)

[lonnmaj15]

Glory to God in the highest!

[merlin17022008]

einfach fabelhaft, grandious, ein wahrer Ohrenschmaus

[MarkusDMeier]

Quite aggressive your response ... but, style is something you cannot argue about, right ?!

[Wally773MTG]

@MrMedal77 BIG BURLY MANLY men with TUFTS of ball hair like you can only sing so high. You seem like a very intelligent person who knows a lot about music.

[auntiepicklebottom]

@MrMedal77 Wow your cool.

[koplotovcan1]

the best



[MarkusDMeier]

Americans and pronounciation ... well, it´s like a goat trying to play the lute, isn´t it ??!

[Wally773MTG]

@MarkusDMeier You know how much bullshit I have to wade through anytime I want to by gas, get my lawn mowed, get silverware, or any one of a BILLION other things? I can't even understand half of my professors. Not once do I complain, and here I find you bitching about American pronunciation...THIS IS NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN CHOIR. Colombians and their reading ability, well its like a dog trying to sing an aria, isn't it ??! Pull the broom out of your ass and take off your monocle you fucking dunce.

[acbulgin2]

@MarkusDMeier It depends on the American. I think Bach got upset b/c a student was playing a bassoon like a goat, whatever that means. Perhaps he meant the student's playing sounded like a goat. A sword fight ensued, and I think Bach was jailed briefly as he had no right to bear arms. As for a goat playing a lute, well, I have no idea. How is your lute playing, or your musicianship in general? I would like to hear it.

[krisv001]

Very nice !

[SimplyDavid42]

I did not really understand why did the director sang the first notes of the Gloria VIII, yes it's a Gloria but it has nothing to do with this piece in my opinion. The performance was great !

[acbulgin2]

@SimplyDavid42 He's the Kantor. The Kantor! This is a mass. A mass, a liturgical work! It is what is historically done. The Gloria chorus could be seen as a liturgical response.

[SimplyDavid42]

@acbulgin2 it does not answer my question, I still do not see any link between Bach's Gloria and this Gloria from the "missa de angelis". Note that the Gloria is a hymn that must be told or sung by everyone ; such a Bach's piece should NEVER be used in any liturgy, as no one can participate to the liturgical action.

[acbulgin2]

@SimplyDavid42 And apparently never was used as a liturgical work. It was never performed in Bach's lifetime. There are versicles and choral (choir only!) responses in the British choral tradition as in Evensong. Officially, "It was unusual for composers working in the Lutheran tradition to compose a Missa tota and Bach's motivations remain a matter of scholarly debate." If you like, I will send Maestro Biller an email in German to ask him. He may answer. Thread not clear here sorry.

[norrisonthespot]

@SimplyDavid42 Never say never. Never say always. 

[crazydonutz]

amazing... not the one i was looking for-but still magnificent..sigh...i miss choir

[duch39]

Wonderful!

[TheJbach]

I wish I'd been there!! Love to watch this one, especially in the morning!!! Rise and shine!!!!

[Zeobit]

Just one comment to the pronounciation: Through the centuries latin developed differently in different areas and formed several styles of diction, of which two remain today: The italian one, also used in english speaking countries, pronounces it "ekstshelsis", and the german one ("ekstselsis"), which we hear in this video. Most likely none of them is the original way of pronounciation, which might have been "ekskelsis", but there is an argument about that,

So let's simply enjoy the music!

[Hotglass89]

I'm confused about this version of the Mass. Why is the conductor singing at the beginning? Beautiful music!!

[Moisa68]

Because it was prscripted in th original setting.

By the way this is the Thmas Cantor anno 2000 you are watching at. The same function Bach had. This is recorded at th 250th memorial year in the exact Thomas Kirche in Leipzig where Bach worked!!!

[Moisa68]

Bach nedd only 1:51 to prove that he was the biggest genius of all times.

[Skohell]

@Moisa68 bach ? It's vivaldi

[Citrustaste]

@Skohell it's bach^^

[acbulgin2]

@Moisa68 J.S. Bach ist Gott, oder wenigstens ist er der musikalische Geist Gottes. I don't know if this German is correct but I don't care as it has been 17 years since I studied it.

[Mislavce]

@Moisa68: there is no that in original score. But very interesting. Are there any evidences Bach used to do so?

[acbulgin2]

@Hotglass89 Because it is a mass and that is what you do, historically speaking. The choral Gloria here could be viewed as a liturgical response to what he sang, a sort of versicle and response. There is a precedent. They would not do it for no bloody reason. It is a Catholic thing in its origins of course, but this is a mass even though by a Lutheran composer in a Lutheran church.

[dies1domini]

La pronuncia sarà un po' tedesca, ma il ''Gloria'' di Bach cantato dal Thomanerchor, dagli eredi stessi di Bach, è una delle cose più belle che si possa sentire!

[gigidiserbia]

yes it is in excelzis or in exkelsis:)))

[merlin17022008]

einfach klasse, unerreicht von anderen

[ClassicalMusicWhiz]

You wait 16 bars untill coming in, not 24 :(

[Arnetsew]

hey guys i have a question, is it

in ekskelsis or

in exchelsis or

in exshelsis or

in excelsis

? please help me out!!

[danny9114]

usualy , it's excelsis :D

[thatradperson]

@Arnetsew you pronounce the "ce" like a "che". I know at least in Ecclesiastical Latin you pronounce c like a "ch" in English when it comes before an e, ae, oe, and i

[trancefugo]

well, in Latin pronounciation it is exchelsis

[acbulgin2]

@trancefugo These kinds of arguments lend so much to art!

[jfrd28]

is it "in ekskelsis de-yo"?

[1976uxa]

horrible pronunciación del Latin

[superzonzo]

So you Know the latin pronunce? Congratulation, a lot of scholars argue about how it should be spoken latin.

[JSC1401]

No need to intone "Gloria in excelcis Deo" if the musical setting commences by these words!

Especially in a Lutheran church, I should think.

Niller doesn't seem particularly to be an orchestral conductor; a good thing the musicians know this work backwards.

[acbulgin2]

@JSC1401 Yes but this is a mass and a mass is a historically RC liturgical work. He is the Kantor, as well as being the choirmaster, just as Bach was. It is a versicle and response form. Biller is not primarily an orchestral conductor, nor is Stephen Cleobury of King's College, nor was Robert Shaw. What's your point? Orchestral conductors are the standard? Is this the idea? Funny how four-part voice leading of the common practice period has its roots in choral composition not instrumental

[SeMiAtRrTaImEs]

Ouran High School? I love it!!

[dancerandhorserider]

magnifique! Bravo!

[esnebeltza]

die chor ist genial aber die kinder mit dem mond sie hat gemacht eine falta aber er ist bien esta magnifico

magnificaicion =)

[BarbyLouise]

Awesome. You make my spirit soar and bring joy to my heart. I am so grateful for the privilege of enjoying this video on You Tube.

Thank you from America!

[damorar]

Frumoasa melodie, fumosi copii! :)

Nice song, nice kids! :)

[emadomus]

Maravilhoso até arrepia...

[requiem131988]

MUy buena interpretación de los niños cantores de viena!!

El gloria muy buena, una de las bellas obras de  bach!

felicidades

[lasifer87]

magnifico!

[HEADBANGING69]

I loooove watching this conductor Georg Christoph Biller! He is great! The choir is heavenly!

[asaoa91]

Incredible!!!

Greetings from Argentina

[praesides]

Dai clarissamarro! La nostra pronuncia non lascia niente a desiderare! Son ungherese, e qua conosciamo 6 pronuncie del latino. Questa regione di Nord ha una propria. La vostra pronuncia romana non e diffusa qua. (X non dire, la nostra sta piu vicino all' originale)

[98matman]

non c'è dubbio sono straordinari

[franklindavid]

Lovely Choir, they sound just great.

[clarissamarro]

Hai ragione indigoblue, la mia era solo un'osservazione. Non metto in dubbio la bravura di questo coro.

[ocirne92padova]

no, nn leggeva come loro. Leggeva diverso da tutti noi, e nessuno oramai legge più come lui. Lui leggeva il latino nell'accentazione elvetica. La più esatta forse che è arrivata a noi. Priva tuttavia di molte sue regole ma lettura sine dubio esatta. Questa pronuncia è SBAGLIATA. IL LATINO SI LEGGE IN UN MODO E NON IN ALTRI. Il greco invece no...:-)

[Arghira]

WOW....nice

[sexykiana94]

kid in glasses at 0:34 cracks meup!!haha

[clarissamarro]

Però la pronuncia del latino lascia molto a desiderare...

[indigoblue555]

To clarissamarro - HI!

non discuto le Vs.tesi anche se propendo per una certa tolleranza nel caso specifico.....

Ancor più se penso alla pronuncia abominevole di tanti italiani....che pensano di parlare italiano.

Cari saluti.

[wcbroccoli]

This is how Latin is pronounced in German.

[leveret2]

@wcbroccoli this is how latin is pronounced anywhere if pronounced correctly

[wcbroccoli]

@leveret2 The Italians would disagree. So would many Americans who favor the Italian pronunciation of church Latin.

[Paneuropax]

@wcbroccoli is thereanother pronounciation?

[wcbroccoli]

@Paneuropax There many. One of the most common is the Italian pronunciation, favored by many Americans, not just Italians. Another is the Latin pronunciation favored by English dons and lawyers, a pronunciation which imposes the sounds of English vowels. There's also the so-called classical Latin pronunciation taught in universities, in which "veni, vidi, vici" is pronounced "way-nee, wee-dee, wee-kee", as opposed to the Italian "vay-nee, vee-dee, vee-chee".

[Paneuropax]

@wcbroccoli I believe the classical pronounciation to be identical with the german pronounciation. Am i wrong here?

[wcbroccoli]

@Paneuropax Here the "c" "excelsis" is pronounced like an "s". In classical Latin it would be a hard "k" sound. In the more Italianate pronunciations, it would be "sh" (egg-shell) or "ch" (ex-chel) sound,

[Paneuropax]

@wcbroccoli Thank you sir. In my school we pronounced the "C" in Caesar hard aswell though. Searching for classical latin pronounciation now :P

[acbulgin2]

@wcbroccoli Does anyone have ANY idea how ANY of the classical languages, e.g., Greek, Latin & Sanskrit, were really pronounced? If you do, I should like to know how you know what it sounded like. Do you have a tape recording from 150 BC? This is one of the things that screws me off with choral performance. Our conductor says "now in Renaissance music, place the emphasis on verbal stress rather than on the notated rhythm", ok fine, but how do we know the verbal stress of Latin? We don't.

[muenchner1000]

@wcbroccoli

Not only German, but everywhere except English, French and Italian speaking area.

[Derpe73]

Complimenti, una bella performance

[Thexenion]

My favourite one. Really good performance :)

[recorderson]

How I love this movement !!!! Bravi. 5 stars