@SadisticReviews Oh, and I suppose I should state my credentials: I am a first year university student, spending way too much time researching this topic due to classes just starting. I am focusing in engineering, and am strong in physical sciences and mathematics, and also gearing towards medicine. Though, there is no point of me to say this. This is the internet, after all...
@SadisticReviews An education? Do you realize how much anonymity the internet provides, and how you have yet to prove your authority on this matter? All you have stated is that the human eye can only receive a maximum of approx 25fps. But you have yet to understand how the brain connects the frames, and how the relationship between the 25fps which we can see with our eyes and the output hz/fps. Tsk tsk. Why do you think there's a movement towards 60fps for HDTVs?
@SadisticReviews I guess I didn't explain well enough... Even though we can only get 24 frames, who says outta the 30, those 24 that we get are the most even in how they are spaced out? By having a larger amount of fps, it increases the smoothness by allowing for even spacing between each frame, rather than being stuck to the intervals that 30 fps limits. Such as in the example I gave with the number lines, there's more freedom for our eyes to properly capture a smooth output (1,5,9 vs 2,5,8)
@SadisticReviews Maybe you may not be able to comprehend that, so here's a simplified version: I have one number line, with the numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and another number line, with the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Now, lets say I can only choose 3 numbers. With the first number line, I would take 1, 5, and 9. With the second number line, I would take 2, 5, and 8, due to the more even distribution comparative to the other numbers. tl;dr? Higher framerate = a more stable video.
Taking into account that there's more frames in the 60fps version, I'll receive a more stable and flowing video when my eyes receive frames from the video's timeline of frames.
@SadisticReviews K woah you're pretty wrong about how the brain receives those frames. 30fps displays a frame every .0333 seconds, while at 60fps, a frame is displayed every .0166 seconds. Due to the limits of our eyes, as you have said, we can only receive a limited amount. If my eyes can handle only 20fps, I'll get a new frame image only every .05 seconds.
@HTLeap 30fps and 60fps have no difference because of our eye's inability to capture more than 24fps. Only noticable when played in slow motion because the frames are displayed slower. hence why 30fps videos in slow motion look like very slow displays of screenshot and 60fps feels like a slow animation. regardless, it will always appear the same if they are both played at normal speed
@SadisticReviews I came across the best 15 vs. 30 vs. 60 fps comparison just yesterday. Stop pulling facts out of your arse, the difference between 30 and 60 is like night and day. Here is the proof boallen.com/fps-compare.html
@netygraph clearly it's false. 30fps is far smoother. go play a console game and that completely shuts it down. also that is a flash animation which doesn't match up to video recordings and game engines. flash is a low quality program for simple and low quality animations. hence why flash games are nothing compared to modern games.
I have an education, hence why I've disproved all these comments. people are just guessing but I'm the only one that knows what he's talking about
ok tards, YES you can see beyond 24fps on ONE condition, when it's played in slow motion. You do not play these games in slow motion, therefore it doesn't matter if you play in 30fps or fps.
When the game is played normally it is humanly impossible to tell a difference, so as long as your computer doesn't suffer frame rate issues. You are not robots, you're far too stupid to be one.
@bobmclightning because we're human, you dumb fuck. I actually have an education unlike you. Grow up and stop making blind statements as if they're facts or people like me will put you in your place.
@SadisticReviews Why are you so retarded? How about you grow up and stop making blind statements, retard. You can easily tell something is at 30FPS when the screen is moving fast or in video games.
Like I said, I've never seen a new HDTV with a refresh rate lower then 60HZ, because the human eye can see the difference.
Now stop making fake facts from your cereal box education, moron.
@bobmclightning You can't prove it lmao. I can give you many sources to support my statements and you got nothing. Now please, copy and paste my words because you're too stupid to come up with anything on your own.
put you in your place again rofl. You just can't handle this. Don't you even think about challenging me. I will CONTINUE to make you cry.
@SadisticReviews Show me ONE source, just one. I can give you one, Google "30FPS vs 60FPS" click on the first link. 100% proof. There goes your "education" down the crapper. And yes, I will "challenge" you, as I am far more intelligent in the degree then you will ever be.
I'll write out your next post for you.
"NONO YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE, WANNA KNOW WHY??? CUZ I SAID SOO, I IZ SMARTER TEHN YOUS?!?!"
There you go, just copy and paste that then you are done. Glad I could help.
@bobmclightning you can "google" my claim and get many sources. Or I can give you the email of some professional animators and you can ask them if you'd like.
you will NEVER win an argument against me. I will CONTINUE to make you cry just like you are now. look how badly you're raging because you know you lost lmfao
@SadisticReviews You have yet to give me proof, or any source, you just say that you can't see the difference, and why the hell would professional animators know the difference? What do you mean I will never win an argument against you? I already have. I also told you to Google it because I can't post links on comments, I bet you didn't even click on that link, arrogant moron. Stop crying about it and admit you have lost.
@SadisticReviews Pages worth? More like you saying I'm wrong without any reason. I actually know what I'm talking about whilst you just try to make yourself sound intelligent.
I won with my first comment, now stop your childish crying and deal with it.
@bobmclightning learn to read my comments. Use "google" since you think that's a source. pages and pages worth saying the human eye can only process 20-32 frames per second. it varies, but doesn't come close to 60.
now if you had any knowedge of animation, you'd know the whole point of adding additional frames is to have smooth animations in slow motion. We don't play games in slow motion so all your comments.
copy and paste my words again, you sad, little infant.
@SadisticReviews Again, you are just randomly spitting out crap. No, I did not say Google was a source, I said the first link in the page was a source, learn to read MY comments.
Yes, watching movies it doesn't matter what frames it is at (normally 24FPS), BUT, playing games the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is unshakable, you can tell by sluggish movements. Just go play BF3 then play MW3, you can see that 60FPS is far smoother.
@bobmclightning umm no, idiot. battlefield 3 is designed on a frostbite 2 engine that focuses on simulating war. Call of duty is a completely weightless and outdated for core gamers who can't handle a challenge. Have you never noticed that battlefield has a lot of camera shake? of course not because you're too stupid. It's not designed to sprint 10 miles an hour because it isn't a rush game.
rofl. I cannot believe you compared call of duty to battlefield. sooooo stupid
@bobmclightning lmao all you do is copy and paste my comments because you cannot come up with anything on your own. I told you, you can't handle this and you proved my point so many times. You got handled. I got pages of facts. Sucks to be you, kid.
@SadisticReviews You have no facts whatsoever. I have proved my point and I'm right. You have just made yourself seem like a total asshole.
I take it you got bullied at school and need to make yourself have a false sense of intelligence? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I won, you lost. Stop bitching.
@bobmclightning what you two idiots do not understand is that the human eye cannot process MORE than 24 frames per second. Yes there are more frames within the second, but we can only capture 24. Play it in slow motion, and you can capture more because the frames are played at a pace that the human eye can capture. Yes, it's smoother, but humans cannot tell the difference between 30 and 60 until it is played in slow motion.
there is not a god damn thing you can change about it
@SadisticReviews It makes it a lot smoother while the screen is moving fast or watching something like a football player run, idoit.
So, you'd rather play a FPS at 24FPS then 60 is what you're saying? That makes sense.
I can easily see if a game is playing at 24-25 fps then at 60.
No matter how much you argue about it, it's the truth. There's been 2 other people here telling you that you are wrong, yet you still believe your false statement. I'm done arguing with your narrow mind, moron.
@bobmclightning in slow motion yes, at regular speed no. It doesn't matter which I'm playing in because we can only process 24fps duuuh.
you have 0 credibility. I have experience in animation, therefore your comments don't mean anything compared to mine because I have the knowledge and experience. You use google as a source lmao.
done. finished. you have no credibility and the only way you can change that is if you become an animator yourself
now reply with something stupid for the 100th time. Guess how much credibility you have? 0. Guess how much of your statement will be supported by concret facts? 0. Don't even bother replying until you've developed a credible education. Seriously, don't even think about replying because it will be voided by your lack of education.
all comments will get a reply of "voided" because you have no credibility. try it. watch what happens. you have nothing. you lost.
@SadisticReviews You have 0 experience in animation, stop crying about it. Don't bother replying to me until you get an I.Q higher then 6. I have won, you have lost. I am done talking about it.
@bobmclightning since you think google is a reliable source, then google "the human eye can only capture frames per second" no numbers so you can see that it's covered in pages and pages of anywhere from 20-32 frames per second. While "google it" is your education I have a REAL college education in graphic arts including animation.
it's so easy to put you in your place. how many times to I have to own you before you quit being a bitch and wipe your tears?
This isn't really the best choice of video for a framerate comparison, IMO, mainly because of the slow-mo bits that break up the smoothness. It gets the point across, though. The difference is still pretty obvious (only in the downloadable video, of course).
The human eye does see fps, it just can't notice much above 30. The main reason someone would want high fps is to edit the video and do slow motion effects.
@davhaa We don't see in frames, but it does take a certain number of fps to create the illusion of totally smooth movement. 30 can be perceived as blurry or shaky, whereas 60 approaches (the appearance of) total fluidity (such that upping the rate to 80 or 100 is barely noticeable). It seems that most people are able to tell the difference between 30 and 60 in a direct comparison, but wouldn't notice otherwise.
@davhaa If you don't see much of a difference above 30 FPS in games, you need to get your eyes checked and a CAT scan of your brain might not be a bad idea either.
@Mitchell9oh5 The average human eye can only see at 60, a test was done to show that around 20% of the british population can see faster (which in turn makes 3D effects not work on them since 3D revolves aroud tricking your eyes because of this limitation.)
@CTSGorDo You still don't see more than 75 FPS because that's as fast as your screen can update. Just because your video card is pumping out the frames doesn't mean you're really seeing them.
@VaconCamp 120Hz = 120 FPS. If you're using like NVidia 3D Vision, then 120Hz is 60 FPS because it displays two of the same frame but slightly altered in .016 seconds rather than a new frame every .008 seconds.
@VaconCamp No, I BELIEVE a 60Hz monitor = 60 fps max. So if you can put all ur settings on low, say, and get 120 fps on a 120Hz monitor, that's what you're actually getting. You don't SEE those 120 fps, but they're there =)
@2700x24 Read the original comment before you respond to someone else's reply to ensure you're not looking stupid. The person to whom I replied has a 75Hz monitor.
@nexus1g Why? the internet does not have an impact on my actual life. Therefore I couldnt care less. ( And no, me answering you does not mean I care, simply becuase I have nothing better to do right now;-)
@nexus1g Well, not for me;-) I cant speak for others than myself ofcourse.. And I'd like to end this now. So i wont be replying anymore. Have a nice life.
@nexus1g No that's not actually true. That doesn't mean your monitor can't produce more than that number, it means it can't stabilise itself past that number.
When I set my desktop refresh rate to 60Hz (max) on my CRT and run CS:S with VSync off it runs beautifully, turn it on and I can't enjoy playing at all. The difference is massive.
Same with DMC4, set refresh to 60Hz on my CRT and play with VS off, it's beautiful. Play on my 120Hz monitor with VS on and refresh set to 60Hz? Horrible.
@naryanr In a CRT that's 60Hz, it means that the electron beam scans the screen 60 times a second. So how do you expect to see more than 60 FPS if the electron beam scans 60 times a second? Instead you get tearing with Vsync off where the electron beam starts scanning one image to the screen, then gets an update from the video card and the second half of the screen is a different frame. But you still only get 60 full screen updates a second.
@nexus1g Yes 60Hz means 60 total scans a second but it's *not* a limit, it's a stability reference. People running a desktop environment don't want high fps, they want consistent fps. That number tells you what the monitor can handle consistently. I don't know if that's still the case with lcds but it is with crts so I can only assume it's the same.
I've seen software that lets you push past your monitors rating on a desktop environment. My *really* old computer even had bios feature for it.
@nexus1g *Maybe* it can damage it, but it still isn't damaged. The definition of a limit is something you can't go past, and I've got past it. So no, it's not a limit.
@naryanr You're still missing something here. You can get more FPS than 60 from your 60Hz monitor, but what was required for you to do that? You had to change your monitor from a 60Hz monitor to a higher Hz monitor. So, still, the refresh rate of the monitor is the limit of the FPS you can get.
@naryanr Look, if you were actually displaying more than 60 FPS, then the electron scanner was scanning more than 60 times a second and hence it was running at higher than 60Hz.
@naryanr How have I changed my "story"? I've said the following and it all still stands true: Going over your CRT's Hz rating can damage it. Going over your LCD's Hz rating will simply not work. You cannot see more frames than your monitor's refresh rate.
@nexus1g If you're getting more Hz than your Hz rating then that means you've temporarily increased your Hz. You CAN'T GET more fps displayed than your current Hz, so if you haven't changed your story then saying it "damages" your monitor is a stupid thing to say. It's like me saying "breathing through your belly button underwater damages your brain". It's totally stupid and impossible, so how would you know that it "damages" anything? I know why, it's cause you've changed your angle since then.
@naryanr I said it CAN damage your monitor -- and it can. You stated, "The definition of a limit is something you can't go past, and I've got past it." No you didn't. You increased the refresh rate of your monitor -- You didn't get past not being able to display more frames than your refresh rate.
@naryanr Then you're confused about what I was talking about. I said that FPS can't exceed refresh rate. Never once did I say anything about what a CRT monitor is "rated" for versus what it might be able to do. I'm surprised that anyone even uses a CRT anymore.
@naryanr Does lying have a new definition now too? So does lying now include the recipient of the information misunderstanding the information because he uses improper nomenclature and needs to be corrected?
@naryanr My Gmail will block the next message from your username.
I suppose "you didn't understand" is just what you repeat over and over when you've lost an argument. I understood everything and this trash is all you've got left. You're wrong. I gave you a clear choice, both options were both supported and rejected by you. Your inability to answer even still proves your argument was inconsistent. When you grow up and stop acting like you know everything you might learn something.
@naryanr said, "Either you're saying your FPS can go past your Hz and it damages it" You can set the Hz higher on CRT's which can damage the monitor. If it doesn't damage the monitor, thanks to the higher Hz or refresh rate you are able to have an equally higher FPS.
You said, "Your FPS can't go past your Hz or refresh rate because it's impossible."
That's right. Your FPS can never exceed your Hz or refresh rate.
@naryanr I think you're just confusing terms. You seem to be attempting to separate Hz from refresh rate when they're exactly the same thing. Hz is just how refresh rate is measured.
@naryanr With an LCD, the limit is set by how fast the crystals can twist to open and close (response time). A 60Hz LCD means the crystals can only change 60 times a second and so you can never see more than 60 updates a second. So again, you still do not see more than 60 FPS.
@GuitarGhost123 How is that information relevant though? You understand that the frames per second of something being above 23fps would still make a difference right?
Stupid, youtube render the video in 29.97fps so, 60 looks like 29.97 and 30 too.
pelavcp 6 days ago
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1yangman 1 month ago
Why would you play with your gun to your left ?
-_-
1Adr1an6 1 month ago
@1Adr1an6 more like why ask that question?
owenotley 1 month ago
@1Adr1an6
If a player's a leftie?.... lol, sounds like a question a little kid would ask.
JLXZ83 1 month ago
@JLXZ83 -_-
1Adr1an6 1 month ago
@1Adr1an6 it's true, though.
xXRammiiXx 1 month ago
@1Adr1an6 Maybe he's left handed
run30wn3r444 1 month ago
@1Adr1an6 why not? nooky from team germany plays left too. and he owns
TrilluXe 1 month ago
the same?
Lucky00751 1 month ago
lol why do you switch for your deagle while you had at least 15 bullet in your m4?
BlacksWars 1 month ago
@SadisticReviews Oh, and I suppose I should state my credentials: I am a first year university student, spending way too much time researching this topic due to classes just starting. I am focusing in engineering, and am strong in physical sciences and mathematics, and also gearing towards medicine. Though, there is no point of me to say this. This is the internet, after all...
HTLeap 1 month ago
@SadisticReviews An education? Do you realize how much anonymity the internet provides, and how you have yet to prove your authority on this matter? All you have stated is that the human eye can only receive a maximum of approx 25fps. But you have yet to understand how the brain connects the frames, and how the relationship between the 25fps which we can see with our eyes and the output hz/fps. Tsk tsk. Why do you think there's a movement towards 60fps for HDTVs?
HTLeap 1 month ago
Nice edit :D
SevOnTube67 1 month ago
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@SadisticReviews I guess I didn't explain well enough... Even though we can only get 24 frames, who says outta the 30, those 24 that we get are the most even in how they are spaced out? By having a larger amount of fps, it increases the smoothness by allowing for even spacing between each frame, rather than being stuck to the intervals that 30 fps limits. Such as in the example I gave with the number lines, there's more freedom for our eyes to properly capture a smooth output (1,5,9 vs 2,5,8)
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@SadisticReviews Maybe you may not be able to comprehend that, so here's a simplified version: I have one number line, with the numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and another number line, with the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Now, lets say I can only choose 3 numbers. With the first number line, I would take 1, 5, and 9. With the second number line, I would take 2, 5, and 8, due to the more even distribution comparative to the other numbers. tl;dr? Higher framerate = a more stable video.
HTLeap 2 months ago
Taking into account that there's more frames in the 60fps version, I'll receive a more stable and flowing video when my eyes receive frames from the video's timeline of frames.
HTLeap 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews K woah you're pretty wrong about how the brain receives those frames. 30fps displays a frame every .0333 seconds, while at 60fps, a frame is displayed every .0166 seconds. Due to the limits of our eyes, as you have said, we can only receive a limited amount. If my eyes can handle only 20fps, I'll get a new frame image only every .05 seconds.
HTLeap 2 months ago
@HTLeap 30fps and 60fps have no difference because of our eye's inability to capture more than 24fps. Only noticable when played in slow motion because the frames are displayed slower. hence why 30fps videos in slow motion look like very slow displays of screenshot and 60fps feels like a slow animation. regardless, it will always appear the same if they are both played at normal speed
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews I came across the best 15 vs. 30 vs. 60 fps comparison just yesterday. Stop pulling facts out of your arse, the difference between 30 and 60 is like night and day. Here is the proof boallen.com/fps-compare.html
netygraph 1 month ago
@netygraph clearly it's false. 30fps is far smoother. go play a console game and that completely shuts it down. also that is a flash animation which doesn't match up to video recordings and game engines. flash is a low quality program for simple and low quality animations. hence why flash games are nothing compared to modern games.
I have an education, hence why I've disproved all these comments. people are just guessing but I'm the only one that knows what he's talking about
SadisticReviews 1 month ago
@SadisticReviews How do you think 30 fps is smoother wtf?
SevOnTube67 1 month ago
@SevOnTube67 30 > 15
SadisticReviews 1 month ago
@SadisticReviews "I have an education" ???
I bet you do.
Chewyone007 1 month ago
@SadisticReviews Haha, this is funny. Go suck your mummys cock you brown nosed twat, stop flinging your stuck up bullshit everywhere.
CallumJayAbbott 2 months ago
@CallumJayAbbott did I say you could speak?
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
You can tell tell the differenc between 30 and 60 fps check this explanation boallen.com/fps-compare.html
Kiiiizle 2 months ago 11
@Kiiiizle i got that site off of total biscuits mailbox :) people that say you can't tell the difference clearly have some kind of mental problem..
uJelley 3 weeks ago
ok tards, YES you can see beyond 24fps on ONE condition, when it's played in slow motion. You do not play these games in slow motion, therefore it doesn't matter if you play in 30fps or fps.
When the game is played normally it is humanly impossible to tell a difference, so as long as your computer doesn't suffer frame rate issues. You are not robots, you're far too stupid to be one.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews You can FEEL the difference playing a game under 60 fps. Its easy to differentiate between 24 and 30 fps imo.
TheNarramundy 2 months ago
@TheNarramundy then your hardware isn't handling the fps properly
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Yes, the human eye can see a difference between 30 and 60FPS.
Ever seen a new HDTV that has a 30HZ refresh rate? No? Wonder why.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning no, you cannot
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Yes, you can. Give me a reason other then "no herr durr".
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning because we're human, you dumb fuck. I actually have an education unlike you. Grow up and stop making blind statements as if they're facts or people like me will put you in your place.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Why are you so retarded? How about you grow up and stop making blind statements, retard. You can easily tell something is at 30FPS when the screen is moving fast or in video games.
Like I said, I've never seen a new HDTV with a refresh rate lower then 60HZ, because the human eye can see the difference.
Now stop making fake facts from your cereal box education, moron.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning You can't prove it lmao. I can give you many sources to support my statements and you got nothing. Now please, copy and paste my words because you're too stupid to come up with anything on your own.
put you in your place again rofl. You just can't handle this. Don't you even think about challenging me. I will CONTINUE to make you cry.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Show me ONE source, just one. I can give you one, Google "30FPS vs 60FPS" click on the first link. 100% proof. There goes your "education" down the crapper. And yes, I will "challenge" you, as I am far more intelligent in the degree then you will ever be.
I'll write out your next post for you.
"NONO YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE, WANNA KNOW WHY??? CUZ I SAID SOO, I IZ SMARTER TEHN YOUS?!?!"
There you go, just copy and paste that then you are done. Glad I could help.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning you can "google" my claim and get many sources. Or I can give you the email of some professional animators and you can ask them if you'd like.
you will NEVER win an argument against me. I will CONTINUE to make you cry just like you are now. look how badly you're raging because you know you lost lmfao
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
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SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews You have yet to give me proof, or any source, you just say that you can't see the difference, and why the hell would professional animators know the difference? What do you mean I will never win an argument against you? I already have. I also told you to Google it because I can't post links on comments, I bet you didn't even click on that link, arrogant moron. Stop crying about it and admit you have lost.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning I gave you pages worth. you lost. copy and paste my comments more because you're too stupid to come up with your own material :)
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Pages worth? More like you saying I'm wrong without any reason. I actually know what I'm talking about whilst you just try to make yourself sound intelligent.
I won with my first comment, now stop your childish crying and deal with it.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning learn to read my comments. Use "google" since you think that's a source. pages and pages worth saying the human eye can only process 20-32 frames per second. it varies, but doesn't come close to 60.
now if you had any knowedge of animation, you'd know the whole point of adding additional frames is to have smooth animations in slow motion. We don't play games in slow motion so all your comments.
copy and paste my words again, you sad, little infant.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Again, you are just randomly spitting out crap. No, I did not say Google was a source, I said the first link in the page was a source, learn to read MY comments.
Yes, watching movies it doesn't matter what frames it is at (normally 24FPS), BUT, playing games the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is unshakable, you can tell by sluggish movements. Just go play BF3 then play MW3, you can see that 60FPS is far smoother.
And I'm not copying or pasting anything, moron.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning umm no, idiot. battlefield 3 is designed on a frostbite 2 engine that focuses on simulating war. Call of duty is a completely weightless and outdated for core gamers who can't handle a challenge. Have you never noticed that battlefield has a lot of camera shake? of course not because you're too stupid. It's not designed to sprint 10 miles an hour because it isn't a rush game.
rofl. I cannot believe you compared call of duty to battlefield. sooooo stupid
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Way to completely change the subject. Guess you ran out of false facts to say? Guess I won.
Oh, and $5 says your next comment will tell me I'm wrong for no exact reason hur hur hur.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning lmao all you do is copy and paste my comments because you cannot come up with anything on your own. I told you, you can't handle this and you proved my point so many times. You got handled. I got pages of facts. Sucks to be you, kid.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews You have no facts whatsoever. I have proved my point and I'm right. You have just made yourself seem like a total asshole.
I take it you got bullied at school and need to make yourself have a false sense of intelligence? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I won, you lost. Stop bitching.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning you proved nothing. Try again.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews Yes I did, and so did HTLeap.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning what you two idiots do not understand is that the human eye cannot process MORE than 24 frames per second. Yes there are more frames within the second, but we can only capture 24. Play it in slow motion, and you can capture more because the frames are played at a pace that the human eye can capture. Yes, it's smoother, but humans cannot tell the difference between 30 and 60 until it is played in slow motion.
there is not a god damn thing you can change about it
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews It makes it a lot smoother while the screen is moving fast or watching something like a football player run, idoit.
So, you'd rather play a FPS at 24FPS then 60 is what you're saying? That makes sense.
I can easily see if a game is playing at 24-25 fps then at 60.
No matter how much you argue about it, it's the truth. There's been 2 other people here telling you that you are wrong, yet you still believe your false statement. I'm done arguing with your narrow mind, moron.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning in slow motion yes, at regular speed no. It doesn't matter which I'm playing in because we can only process 24fps duuuh.
you have 0 credibility. I have experience in animation, therefore your comments don't mean anything compared to mine because I have the knowledge and experience. You use google as a source lmao.
done. finished. you have no credibility and the only way you can change that is if you become an animator yourself
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@bobmclightning
now reply with something stupid for the 100th time. Guess how much credibility you have? 0. Guess how much of your statement will be supported by concret facts? 0. Don't even bother replying until you've developed a credible education. Seriously, don't even think about replying because it will be voided by your lack of education.
all comments will get a reply of "voided" because you have no credibility. try it. watch what happens. you have nothing. you lost.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@SadisticReviews You have 0 experience in animation, stop crying about it. Don't bother replying to me until you get an I.Q higher then 6. I have won, you have lost. I am done talking about it.
bobmclightning 2 months ago
@bobmclightning voided
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@bobmclightning come back when you've installed a cyborg eye into your skull, but first find a brain that works properly.
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
@bobmclightning $5 says your next comment will be a waste of time
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
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@bobmclightning since you think google is a reliable source, then google "the human eye can only capture frames per second" no numbers so you can see that it's covered in pages and pages of anywhere from 20-32 frames per second. While "google it" is your education I have a REAL college education in graphic arts including animation.
it's so easy to put you in your place. how many times to I have to own you before you quit being a bitch and wipe your tears?
SadisticReviews 2 months ago
great auto aim, where can I get?
Quentarus 2 months ago
fps_max 23 fps_max 32 see difference.
KOZANOSTRAxd 2 months ago
@KOZANOSTRAxd ofc its gonna be really easy to tell the diffrence on such a low fps
vafaneh 2 months ago
human eye can see only 32 fps...
KOZANOSTRAxd 2 months ago
@KOZANOSTRAxd 23*
GuitarGhost123 2 months ago
@KOZANOSTRAxd and yet there is a very obvious difference between 30 fps and 60 fps.
we can only see 32 INDIVIDUAL frames per second, but that doesnt mean additional frames in between dont help blending.
Donut117 2 months ago
YT only has 30 fps ^_^ no kidding
The1stBoon 2 months ago 36
@The1stBoon it has 21.95 but yeah
TheHunter55S 2 months ago
@The1stBoon yes but when it is slowed down to about 0.5% then it can display 60 fps because of 2 frames being displayed over the course of 1 second.
FlexoFish 1 month ago
What is with all these idiots talking crap about the human eye like they know something?
The difference between 24 and 30? Obvious.
The difference between 30 and 60? Obvious.
The difference between 60 and 120? Obvious.
If YOU can't see it then there's something wrong with you.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr You're a troll.
fatfatr 2 months ago
@fatfatr If I were you wouldn't be able to tell yet.
Like it or not it's true.
naryanr 2 months ago
OMFG! <333333333333
LetsMexxii 2 months ago
what band is this?? is it EDGUY?
tictac4949 2 months ago
This isn't really the best choice of video for a framerate comparison, IMO, mainly because of the slow-mo bits that break up the smoothness. It gets the point across, though. The difference is still pretty obvious (only in the downloadable video, of course).
3dmarth 2 months ago
Left handed viewmodel is so annoying. -_-"
MickehDaHuskeh 2 months ago
LOL nice hacks faggot get skill at cs
poopguypenis2 2 months ago
@poopguypenis2 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i <3 you
Jerrickoh 2 months ago 3
@poopguypenis2 don't really see where the hack come's in Aimbot Never misses
MrBananaCast 2 months ago
The human eye does see fps, it just can't notice much above 30. The main reason someone would want high fps is to edit the video and do slow motion effects.
davhaa 3 months ago
@davhaa We don't see in frames, but it does take a certain number of fps to create the illusion of totally smooth movement. 30 can be perceived as blurry or shaky, whereas 60 approaches (the appearance of) total fluidity (such that upping the rate to 80 or 100 is barely noticeable). It seems that most people are able to tell the difference between 30 and 60 in a direct comparison, but wouldn't notice otherwise.
3dmarth 2 months ago
@3dmarth that's basically what i meant... and yes.
davhaa 2 months ago
@davhaa You're just so unbelievably wrong. The difference between 60 and 120 is obvious.
naryanr 2 months ago
@davhaa If you don't see much of a difference above 30 FPS in games, you need to get your eyes checked and a CAT scan of your brain might not be a bad idea either.
nexus1g 2 months ago
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you cant see the difference in normal speed.
Kuebchen92 3 months ago
the same shit.
VNVMediaProductions 3 months ago
the human eye can only see 60 fps
Mitchell9oh5 3 months ago
@Mitchell9oh5 The average human eye can only see at 60, a test was done to show that around 20% of the british population can see faster (which in turn makes 3D effects not work on them since 3D revolves aroud tricking your eyes because of this limitation.)
S0ryiu 3 months ago
@S0ryiu interesting
Mitchell9oh5 3 months ago
@Mitchell9oh5
the humain eye see 24 fps ..
reMAKOZOR 3 months ago
@reMAKOZOR No, movies are 24 FPS. The human eye doesn't see in FPS. It is a constant stream of information.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@reMAKOZOR you suck bitch
tykki4 3 months ago
cl_crosshairscale 3000 ;)
franpe87 3 months ago
what song name ? ty
FilipeM1991 3 months ago
i just lost 46 seconds from my life
TheDubzDoriftar 3 months ago
YT support just 37frames ..^^
1blackbike1 3 months ago
LOL my screen is 75Hz and i play cod 4 mw2 at 100fps...
CTSGorDo 3 months ago
@CTSGorDo You still don't see more than 75 FPS because that's as fast as your screen can update. Just because your video card is pumping out the frames doesn't mean you're really seeing them.
nexus1g 3 months ago 7
@nexus1g Not if your screenis 120Hz like mine =)
reloadingdontshoot1 3 months ago
@reloadingdontshoot1 Good for you. So do I. But the guy I was responding to stated he had a 75Hz monitor.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@reloadingdontshoot1 isnt 120Hz equal to 60 fps max?
jw
VaconCamp 3 months ago
@VaconCamp 120Hz = 120 FPS. If you're using like NVidia 3D Vision, then 120Hz is 60 FPS because it displays two of the same frame but slightly altered in .016 seconds rather than a new frame every .008 seconds.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@VaconCamp No, I BELIEVE a 60Hz monitor = 60 fps max. So if you can put all ur settings on low, say, and get 120 fps on a 120Hz monitor, that's what you're actually getting. You don't SEE those 120 fps, but they're there =)
reloadingdontshoot1 2 months ago
@nexus1g Not all screens have such a low refresh rate.. Take mine for an example, my screen has a 120Refresh rate.
2700x24 3 months ago
@2700x24 Read the original comment before you respond to someone else's reply to ensure you're not looking stupid. The person to whom I replied has a 75Hz monitor.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@nexus1g I see, But i dont care about "looking stupid" on the internet;-)
2700x24 3 months ago
@2700x24 You should care enough to not look stupid no matter where it is.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@nexus1g Why? the internet does not have an impact on my actual life. Therefore I couldnt care less. ( And no, me answering you does not mean I care, simply becuase I have nothing better to do right now;-)
2700x24 3 months ago
@2700x24 What you do on the internet has more impact on your life than you think.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@nexus1g Well, not for me;-) I cant speak for others than myself ofcourse.. And I'd like to end this now. So i wont be replying anymore. Have a nice life.
2700x24 3 months ago
@2700x24 For you and everyone. You just don't realize it yet.
nexus1g 3 months ago
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S0ryiu 3 months ago
@S0ryiu Read the original comment to which I'm replying. The guy has a 75Hz monitor. I have a Samsung 2233rz which is a 120Hz monitor.
nexus1g 3 months ago
@nexus1g Most people prefer higher fps not because of how it looks but because of how it makes the game feel. Sensitivity, bounces, strafing etc..
Zookei 3 months ago
@nexus1g No that's not actually true. That doesn't mean your monitor can't produce more than that number, it means it can't stabilise itself past that number.
When I set my desktop refresh rate to 60Hz (max) on my CRT and run CS:S with VSync off it runs beautifully, turn it on and I can't enjoy playing at all. The difference is massive.
Same with DMC4, set refresh to 60Hz on my CRT and play with VS off, it's beautiful. Play on my 120Hz monitor with VS on and refresh set to 60Hz? Horrible.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr In a CRT that's 60Hz, it means that the electron beam scans the screen 60 times a second. So how do you expect to see more than 60 FPS if the electron beam scans 60 times a second? Instead you get tearing with Vsync off where the electron beam starts scanning one image to the screen, then gets an update from the video card and the second half of the screen is a different frame. But you still only get 60 full screen updates a second.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g Yes 60Hz means 60 total scans a second but it's *not* a limit, it's a stability reference. People running a desktop environment don't want high fps, they want consistent fps. That number tells you what the monitor can handle consistently. I don't know if that's still the case with lcds but it is with crts so I can only assume it's the same.
I've seen software that lets you push past your monitors rating on a desktop environment. My *really* old computer even had bios feature for it.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr Yes, it's a limit. It can actually damage the CRT, and it simply won't work with LCD (it will give an "out of range" error message).
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g *Maybe* it can damage it, but it still isn't damaged. The definition of a limit is something you can't go past, and I've got past it. So no, it's not a limit.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr You're still missing something here. You can get more FPS than 60 from your 60Hz monitor, but what was required for you to do that? You had to change your monitor from a 60Hz monitor to a higher Hz monitor. So, still, the refresh rate of the monitor is the limit of the FPS you can get.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g That application was only for destabilising FPS outside of full screen applications.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr Look, if you were actually displaying more than 60 FPS, then the electron scanner was scanning more than 60 times a second and hence it was running at higher than 60Hz.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g Yeah you said that already. If your 60Hz monitor can change it's Hz it's still a 60Hz rated monitor.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr And you're still not going beyond your monitor's refresh rate because the refresh rate has changed.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g You've just completely changed your story now.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr How have I changed my "story"? I've said the following and it all still stands true: Going over your CRT's Hz rating can damage it. Going over your LCD's Hz rating will simply not work. You cannot see more frames than your monitor's refresh rate.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g If you're getting more Hz than your Hz rating then that means you've temporarily increased your Hz. You CAN'T GET more fps displayed than your current Hz, so if you haven't changed your story then saying it "damages" your monitor is a stupid thing to say. It's like me saying "breathing through your belly button underwater damages your brain". It's totally stupid and impossible, so how would you know that it "damages" anything? I know why, it's cause you've changed your angle since then.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr I said it CAN damage your monitor -- and it can. You stated, "The definition of a limit is something you can't go past, and I've got past it." No you didn't. You increased the refresh rate of your monitor -- You didn't get past not being able to display more frames than your refresh rate.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g I'm not confusing terms thanks. That wasn't what we were talking about, we were talking about the rating on the monitor.
Either you're saying your FPS can go past your Hz and it damages it
OR
Your FPS can't go past your Hz because it's impossible.
Pick one.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr Then you're confused about what I was talking about. I said that FPS can't exceed refresh rate. Never once did I say anything about what a CRT monitor is "rated" for versus what it might be able to do. I'm surprised that anyone even uses a CRT anymore.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g OK, at this point we both know you're lying. You made a mistake. Time to learn to admit it.
This conversation's over.
naryanr 2 months ago
@naryanr Does lying have a new definition now too? So does lying now include the recipient of the information misunderstanding the information because he uses improper nomenclature and needs to be corrected?
nexus1g 2 months ago
@naryanr My Gmail will block the next message from your username.
I suppose "you didn't understand" is just what you repeat over and over when you've lost an argument. I understood everything and this trash is all you've got left. You're wrong. I gave you a clear choice, both options were both supported and rejected by you. Your inability to answer even still proves your argument was inconsistent. When you grow up and stop acting like you know everything you might learn something.
Naryan out.
naryanr 2 months ago
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@naryanr said, "Either you're saying your FPS can go past your Hz and it damages it" You can set the Hz higher on CRT's which can damage the monitor. If it doesn't damage the monitor, thanks to the higher Hz or refresh rate you are able to have an equally higher FPS.
You said, "Your FPS can't go past your Hz or refresh rate because it's impossible."
That's right. Your FPS can never exceed your Hz or refresh rate.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@naryanr I think you're just confusing terms. You seem to be attempting to separate Hz from refresh rate when they're exactly the same thing. Hz is just how refresh rate is measured.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@naryanr With an LCD, the limit is set by how fast the crystals can twist to open and close (response time). A 60Hz LCD means the crystals can only change 60 times a second and so you can never see more than 60 updates a second. So again, you still do not see more than 60 FPS.
nexus1g 2 months ago
@nexus1g you cant even see 75fps cause a human eye can only see 23fps
GuitarGhost123 2 months ago
@GuitarGhost123 How is that information relevant though? You understand that the frames per second of something being above 23fps would still make a difference right?
YourPalHDee 2 months ago
@GuitarGhost123 And where do you get that incorrect idea from?
nexus1g 2 months ago
@GuitarGhost123 BbBbBbbbbbullllshit.
thats5 2 months ago
@GuitarGhost123 That's not true...
ATLMember 2 months ago
@GuitarGhost123 but you can slow it down a lot more without stuttering
hejjagedu 2 months ago
I hate right handed
danner504 3 months ago
60Hz monitor limits to 60 fps.... /endthread
CrASYmUZIk 3 months ago
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Mateusz1994ism 4 months ago
Lol
mryeahitsme96 4 months ago
lol i play this game at like 300 fps well thats what xfire shows ;D
19guitarhero94 4 months ago
@19guitarhero94 aah? wht 300 fps? wht com u use -,-
aliff40 4 months ago
@aliff40 cheap1 lol not a demanding game ;D intel i5 2500k 3.7 ghz, amd radeon 6770 and 6gb ddrm ram
19guitarhero94 4 months ago
I wish my comp could play CSS this smoothly... I only get like 20 frames... I need an upgrade but lack the money. xD
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tiiimo97 4 months ago
lol, it looks like he just posted the same thing, just a little faster.
doyzerI420 4 months ago
there is a difference 60fps has smoother animations
owca6666 4 months ago
no difference
Narutolatos96 4 months ago
you tube cannot show more than 30fps so you cant see different here, download the file and see differense :)
putsipa 4 months ago
I have 300fps BLANK when i play CSS. No big deal with 60 fps...
droxje 4 months ago
but wat is the differenece?
luffysparta 4 months ago
The left handedness hurts my eyes D:
Tertyu48 4 months ago
lol my laptop lag at this vid ^^
BuschsMovies 4 months ago
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MrBengan151 4 months ago
i have 250 fps and it is NCIE!!!
TutorialMore 4 months ago
@TutorialMore 150 to 250 won't look any different to the human eye.
zairuku 4 months ago
@zairuku Yes, since the human eye is only about 60-80FPS. xD
66kcmiller 4 months ago
@66kcmiller glad some people in the world know what they are talking about.
zairuku 4 months ago
@zairuku Yup. :P
66kcmiller 4 months ago