Ur right.... i was wrong, but i thougth that the first number (3) was for the serie of te car, i mean, 3 series, and the other two are for the 3500cc... but it is a 3000cc...
the 335i has the same engine as the 330i just with twin turbo, so the 5 is meant to clarify the difference, although they should have just done a simple tt
I drive a 135i same tt engine as the 335i but a lighter car,its a sub for the cayman s because its a cheaper car, I have test driven a cayman s hard up and down gears trust me its no slouch,a sport chrono equiped car is good for 60mph in 4.8secs and it will climb over 177 mph if you got the balls and the road with virtually no roll at the corners.
guys, stopo arguing i think that money is always the main factor in order to gugde what a car has to offer!!!i have ordered a 335xicoupe!the cost of the order is(full extra besides the exclusive sound system and bluetooth-phone installment) almost 80.000euros!!! plus 4seater with a respectable trunk!!! the cayman s or even a carrera s the same extras would cost 110.000 and 145.000euros!! i think now that considering value for money the 335i is a better option!!!if u have 120...buy an m5-v10!!!!
Are you guys joking? A stock 335i gives almost identical straight line performance to the Cayman S (0-60 and 1/4 mile times). Why are you surprised by this video? The Cayman S is NOT being compared to the M3. The E90 M3 is faster than the 911S, let alone the Caymans. Obviously, the Cayman is going to kill the 335i on a track, but that's not what this video is showing. Chip the 355i for $2K and it's faster (12 flat 1/4 mile) than all the Porsches except the 911 turbo and GT's.
You must be like 14 yrs old. Do me a favor. Swing by the Porsche dealership I work at right after you drive an E93 M3 and i'll show you what a C2S/C4S can do. Magazine/internet racing blows.
I definitely know what you mean. I've been in a 997C4S Cab and it's on a league of its own. IMHO it's the best GT pack on the market today. However, that doesn't mean Porsche can get away with the lousy facelifts and premium pricing without giving the driver more power than the competition. Porsche really needs to invest more on evolution than what they did in the past, if they wish to continue being who they are
ApexIXMR..lol..actually I'm about 10 years older than you. Also, I've already driven a 911 CS and Cayman S. I realize the value and originality of a Porsche, but they are pricey and this video is comparing straight line performance. The only Porsches faster than the new M3 or a chipped 335i are the 911 turbo and the GT's..that's a fact. I thought about buying a 911 4S, but I couldn't get myself to spend the money. For 1/2 the price, plus a $600 chip, my 335i coupe out-accelerates the Carrera S.
Apex...also, I realize there is more to a car than straight line performance and Porsche offers many of those intangibles that most car makers will never match. But the premium price on those cars is unbelievable. Porsche has more and more competition these days, especially with the economy down and the HP war going on between automakers.
They are both great cars. The BMW is more practical but if you don't need the extra seats the Porsche is a much more extreme machine. Once you test drive a Porsche nothing else will come close.
The Cayman S is one of the best handling cars EVER BUILT. Period. Not the fastest in either top end or 0-60, but in terms of overall balance it is one of the best. I have 14000 miles on mine and couln't be happier. Best 66k I ever spent.
U know u win only cause a Cayman wont condescend a shit like thoose bmws. that factory still cant decide what they make s a limousin or a sportscar or what else?!
ha.ha.ha..lol What a load of bull crap this is. The 135i is just a tad quicker than the cayman 2.7 and quicker than 335i let alone a cayman s. See fith gear comparison between 2.7 cayman and 1335i turbo.
Who cares, the BMW is running tiny turbos that only charge 3 cylinders at a time. Its not a high boost application, the purpose of it was to make the car feel N/A ( like a small-medium size V8), which it absolutely does. The engine is a cracker, and was voted engine of the year for 3000cc and under. Now wheres the award for the Cockster?
Plus the Cockster is $20k more.
Id rather buy an M3 and not look like poopenshaft hunter!
just so you guys can understand how quick a v2 procede 335i is, Type "BMW 335i Vishnu V2 vs Mercedes E55 AMG " above in search block, and watch what happens to an E55 against the chipped 335i ( the video is done by the M5 board website on a airport runway).
Sorry, but its much easier to make the 335i 1 second quicker over the 1/4 mile then it is the Gayman S. 1300 bucks with a vishnu procede V2, and the 335i runs 12.3 secs @ 117mph. thats pretty much quicker then any porsche bar a 997 GT3 and Turbo (GT2 aswell).
Bottom line youll have spent 45k max, where as a stock Cayman is in the 60s. Put another 10-15k into the Cayman to get it into the mid 12s, and your look at nearly 80 large all up.
I agree with you there. Think I'll wait 5 or 6 year till the Cayman S is in the 30K-40K range used, then nab a good one and fab a twin turbo setup for it.
Youre insane. A 3.2 liter wannabe porsche vs a 3.0 twin-turbo. The BMW owns the porsche all day. Get out of here. Oh and the 335 in the video is automatic...WACK
umm...its 3.4L at least get your facts right... and two the BMW is a tank weighing almost 600 lbs. more than the Cayman S... you can get the Porsche's 0-60 to 4.8 secs just look at any car mag. I would like to see the Bimmer outhandle it as well - they're in too way different segments, a Cayman S is built for the turns, with the ability to turn with one of the highest exit speeds in the automotive world..
BMWs are crap cars with 2nd rate quality. The new Accord blows it away. They are only fir image and those with insecurity issues. Ihad 4 before I grew up and got past the advertising.
I would take a Lexus IS350 anyday over that garbage.
you are extremely biased. obviously much more biased than those who simply take a BMW for its image. The 335i runs the IS350 all day long. The IS had enough trouble competing against the old 330's. But...enjoy your rice, fanboy.
Haha I dont know who you guys are referring to not having either of the products, but not everyone on here is 16 years old. The 335i is quicker in a straight line, 20k less to buy, and more praticle to live with, aswell as lapping just as quickly as an E46 m3 around the nurburgring and laguna seca.
The Cayman is a great focused little car, with amazing poise and balance. They really have totally different Target Markets
bmw is a wonderful car company, but it is not fair to them in the same league as porsche. I had a bmw e36 m3 and it was a wonderful car but nothing comoares to the input you get between the driver and a porsche. it truly is a experience. and by the way the list price on a bmw m5 is$ 79,000
The two posts below me should blow me. 335i is a fantastic car, pretty much stock to stock on par with the e46 m3. How does a honda friggin civic SI, a 24g car fully loaded with crap quality even compare to a 300+ hp car with excellent quality and handeling...Nurburgring times dont lie. and you obviously dont have a bmw when u compare them to hondas. and if a 335i isnt a decent bmw then what is? a 90+ grand m5
low moment of inertia, engine in the right place, high stiffness chassis. Driver oriented, it should be easier to live with than the 911 and a lot easier to have fun in. props to the company's commitment to building a true sports cars. and power means nothing without agility.
It truly is. If they put the engines that they have in the Carreras in the Cayman, the 911s wouldn't sell anymore. It would be the ultimate Porsche with 500hp or something, but they won't do that because the 911 is their flagship car, and they want to keep it that way, but it sure would be great if they did.
You last two guys are stupid. My dad has a brand new new 2007 Cayman S. It is no poor man's car just because it is less expensive than the Carrera. It is the fastest thing in turns and would beat the BMW 335i in a track any day. Now im not saying that the BMW is a bad car, but the Porsche is just better. Way better.
That's what you think. Which i don't really care. I just saying based on facts. I don't think you can say anything here because you don't have either a Porsche or a BMW, and if the Porsche is the poor man's car, then you have a serious finance problem buddy.
You mate, have problems, you are a retard. You are ovbiously a twelve year old who hasn't a clue about cars. Ovbiously you do not have a Porsche, or a decent BMW. Go do some reasearch on cars.
In the states, you can buy a Gayman S for around $60k, while a base Carrera is in the 80s... not particularily expensive when you consider in countries like australia, south africa, asian countries such as singapore, china these two cars would cost 130k and 200k respectively.
Even in Australia, if you dish out 130k ( you could buy a decked out 997 turbo cab for that in the states) for a Gayman S, youd still be considered to be driving the poor mans variant
only in the US where cars cost pennys does one see females driving 335is or boxsters/Gaymans.
Most 335 buyers are young males who see the words "twin turbo" and realise how tunable the car is. There are already near 500hp variants, running mild boost figures, and the mods were very inexpensive ( chip, filter, exhaust).
Engine tuning is done by ppl who can't use the full potential of the car...(or bored of it once they can lol)
You know how much Porsche had to strict the Cayman S in order to not cannibalize the 997? You can just as easily increase the hp figure on the car by taking out the air restrictors and a ECU revamp...add a LSD to it and its good to go...HP doesn't matter, bhp to weight does, and with 600 lbs more in the bimmer, the Cayman wins
there is no argument here, the 335 outperforms the cayman in all areas...to say it best, the cayman is the poor mans porsche. A bad car with a good emblem.
Are you fucking stupid!? The Cayman is a GREAT car! If a it was a little faster it would lap a Carrera! Man you stupid little kids now jack shit about cars, and BTW theres no such thing as a poor mans Porsche.....stupid shit.
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if you think its a great car so be it, but the 335 is a MUCH better car. and the only stupid fukn one around here is you fukn dumbass watch your mouth from now on
I agree DJSnipa. If gayballer over there would get his head out of his ass and read the facts he would see how the Porsche is better. This video isn't even good. How do you know its a Cayman S? And you can clearly see that its just cruising, because it has a faster top speed. Nothing beats the drivability of a porsche. Now im not saying that the 335i is a bad car, but the Cayman S IS a better car. Hit the facts.
Youve portrayed fuck all knowledge yourself, ( you back this up by bothering to compare the two cars topspeeds , when everyone knows a 335i is limited to 155mph, and can easily top 180- as they say, people in glass houses...) and have no facts nor proof to back up your claims. So just go and live your life Vicariously through others and pretend to have what ever you want.
I know the Porsche cayman is a 217kw, 340nm mid engined german excuse for a hairdryer that you seem to love. It laps as quickly as an enzo around Fiarano, but its due to the laps relative tightness ( both do 55 secs).
Ive driven this car many a time, and the constant feeling I get from it is that its a detuned 3.4L, with room for uptuning as the car moves through its life.
Oh really, I do believe every time ive tried, the only time the cayman ever gets ahead is on the start due to its superior power down than a 335i. A Cayman is really not quick above 100mph.
Either way, continue to delude yourself, its really on you and a couple other 16 year olds who feel this way.
340 newton metres? thats like braging about beating a Prius in a drag race. A procede V2 335i has 550-600nm at 1300rpm-600rpm and 430hp @ 6800rpm. A stock 335i dynoes 295rwhp or 340hp at the flywheel, and 460nm. Considering bmw claims 302bhp and 400nm, you can see how conservative the claims are, mainly because they did not want to steal the E46 M3s "top dog" spot when the 335i was released.
Totally disagree as to 60 cayman s nose's ahead above a hundred with the sports option activated and due to the fact it has better aero dynamics stock 335i is nailed first time every time.
I do believe this arguement is based on straightline speed, and your claim is that the Cayman S is a better tool for it. Ive admitted that the Cayman S is a more focused handler, albiet twitchy at the limit due to its mid engined design aswell as having inferior powerdown then a standard 911 ( for the same reason--> more weight over the rear axel = better power down).
HA HA,Porsche's have alway's understated their figures right back from the launch of of the 930 ,
The aligater aka caymans s is here to stay no matter what you or they say. with 340 nuton meters of torque coupled with its superior aero dynamics and handling are more than enough to say bye bye to 335i and a sports tuned version is more than a match for the M3.
If you truley owned both you wouldnt be defending the Cayman S's straightline ability ( or lack there of) would you?
No ofcourse you wouldnt be.
You would have also agreed how tunable the 335i is, and that its far quicker then the figures BMW released ( due to the need for their to be clear power distinction between the current m3 and 335i).
You wouldnt have bothered arguing about top speed when you know the 335i is limited to 155mph, and desrestricted can do 180mph +
I do believe both of those cars will ass kick a Cayman s in a straight line.
I do believe my arguement is 335i is a far better straightline weapon of choice then a cayman S, considering you just buy a chip and youve got a low 12 second car. If you really have a 335i, you would know this
Im not doubting the Cayman S is a more focused handler and designed to be a closed top roadster, the 335i on the other hand is an all rounder/ luxury GT, they really have totally different target markets.
The reason the 335i has had such praise is because it can do everything really well, including having the pace to upset the E46 M3, and the audi S5 on the track
I do believe Car and driver lapped the 335i coupe round laguna seca quicker then a Z4m, and RS4. I doubt the Cayman S would be quicker then those two.
The other you thing have to consider is the 335i has an open Diff, versus the cayman S LSD. Chuck in a procede V2 ( 430hp), and a LSD, and youll have a very low 12 second 50grand car.
How much is a cayman? like 20k more then that hahaha
Ha Ha, rs4 nice but another sofa not sports car but a fast sallon,ha ha. z4 m again in stock form restricted already beaten by the cayman s around the nurburgring due to the fact the cayman s has far superior handling then both the bmw and audi.
A Cayman prepared and run by privateers Jürgen and Uwe Alzen finished fourth overall (of 220 entrants) in the 2007 running of the Nürburgring 24 Hour race, ahead of two flagship Porsche 997 GT3 RSR's, a 997 GT3 Cup, and a 996 GT3 Cup. Another two privateer Caymans, entered by CSR and MSpeed, finished 22nd and 117th overall.
my dad has the 07 cayman S and its quick as hell...so who ever says its not should go to a dealer and test drive it and feel stupid...i would rather pull up in a porsche then a bmw...you may see alot of 335i on the road but you most deff dont see alot of cayman S's...becuase its an exclusive car
Just check out u tube cayman s top speed, and cayman s doing 186mph in the red line at autobahn,enough to blow your mind and the doors away of any 335i.
LMAO, 335 is more of the "hairdressers car" I see more & more women driving them everyday! Porsche has been known for making true sports cars. And well...BMW is known for making fast commuters. 335 wont outperform a S on the track, records show it to be true. Well Iv said what I needed to say, now please lay the insults on me.
Just check out u tube cayman s top speed, and cayman s doing 186mph in the red line at autobahn,enough to blow your mind and the doors away of any 335i.
Anyone who knew what they were talking about knows the 335i is pretty similar 0-60mph time because the 335i is underated by bmw at 300hp when its putting out nearer 340 stock.
independant tests show 4.8 and 13.3 sec 1/4s for stock 335s.
I own both the bi turbo BMW e90 335i and cayman s and thought i'd let you know the cayman s is faster o to 60 and go's on to 178 mph top speed in my 335i gives up at 153mph and it all depends on the driver if he's willing to go to the limit , the cayman s is also far superior around the bends and lapped the nurburgring faster both the new v8 m3 and 911 997 3.6.
the bmw with PROcede is increadibly powerful and besides the clayman is $58900 to the 335i with a price tag of $50000 so u take the sports package on the bmw with procede $51365 will beat the cayman every time and is still cheaper!
what caymanclub said is true there is no way the bmw can keep up 2 the porshe. My friends 335 tops of at 160 the porshe tops off at 175 so there u go.
hahaha bmw or porsche? bmw can burn for me, I'd take a porsche over a bmw anyday of the week, besides a cayman S on track beats the crap out of a 335 totally it's a sports car not like the 335 which is a sporty sedan
BMW 335 0 - 60 is 4.8 and its handeling is amazing..50/50 weight distribution...besides BMWs stats arent their full output potential...the numbers BMW gives are always less than what it can actually do... thats a fact. Its not like it was racin' a real porche guys....BMW also has amazing torque and is set up very well
No way a stock 335i is faster than a Cayman S unless the Cayman S driver is loafing it. The Cayman S in stock form routinely runs 4.8 0-60 and 13.2 1/4 mile and that is just in a straight line, go into the corners and the Cayman will eat the 335i alive. The Cayman S is a sports car the 335 is sort of a sporty sedan. If you want the real information on Caymans you need to visit Cayman Club dot Net
Look at how a stock 335 goes against an M5 off the mark and then on the roll. Type in 335 vs M5, and youll see a new m5 having seriously difficulties ( and in a 3rd or 4th gear roll actually lose to a 335)
BMW data is conservative crap. Firstly a 335i weighs 1550kg. puts out aroun 330bhp stock ( not the 300 claimed) or 290bhp atw, aswell as around 30-40lbs more then claimed. Stock it will run 4.8 secs to 60 and as low as 13.3 secs of a standing 1/4 mile. On the roll, it will pull away from a cayman S
The BMW 335i weighs 1800 kg. The Cayman S 1350 kg.
The BMW has a 0-100 km/h acc of 5.8 sec. (Official BMW data)
The Cayman S 0-100 km/h in 5.4 secs.
That´s just the raw statistics. Then driver skills, urge to dragrace etc etc comes into play. And this is in a straight line. As soon as these cars hit serious curves the BMW is just another -albeit nice - sedan. The Cayman a sportscar.
Porsche might be overpriced, but there is a reason why they claim "there is no substitute" :)
No doubt Porsche are superior sports cars overall. However the official acceleration figures given by BMW for the 335i are conservative. I've seen 0-60 in 4.9s for a stock 335i. However you are right, a Cayman S (or even a Boxster S) around a curve is truly impressive.
A 335 will drill a Cayman S on the roll. Ofcourse a G35 would lose to a 335, a G35 will usually pull 14.5 over a 1/4 mile to a 335s 13.5. No contest really. I never really understood why people think G35s are quick, after driving plenty, they are nothing special in a straight line. They sound nice though.
You´re right. The Cayman is actually FASTER than the 911 in the corners. The Cayman is also a better car when it comes to balance than the 911, but for political reasons Porsche dont want to make the Cayman as powerful as the 911. It´s a pity, cuz the car deserves a lot more than 295BHP.
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M5 drifts caught by Cayman (paste this into U Tube search)
Hey BMW Dudes....Check out this 500 bhp M5 being beaten by a Cayman S around a UK race track...enjoy ;-)
BraycoMicronic 9 months ago
M5 drifts caught by Cayman (paste this into U Tube search)
Hey BMW Dudes....Check out this 500 bhp M5 being beaten by a Cayman S around a UK race track...enjoy ;-)
BraycoMicronic 9 months ago
The Cayman S beats out the BMW M3 on a race track. So if you actually took the 335i on a real track you'd be the one saying "holy shit". LOL.
I've been in all four cars: Cayman S, 335, 335 coupe, M3 V8. They're all fun and have their own merit.
xxmortimerxx 1 year ago
tu viedo es una mierda pinche pendejo de mierda
SuperJon3000 1 year ago
335i power!!
sanderdel 1 year ago
M5 Board also has a Cayman S spanking the 335i..LoL
Nemo13535 2 years ago 3
I raced a Cayman S today on the way to uni :P easy win
darkabyss1414 2 years ago
dude I tink you are racing yourself even this vid doesn't make since
you are for sure got some mods
meiz33 2 years ago 5
Why do BMW owners always spend money on their cars and never to purchase a real camcorder with night vision?
exBMRguy 3 years ago 13
@exBMRguy amen
SuperJon3000 1 year ago
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bs3dunknow 3 years ago
this video reminds me of my videos!!1 M
aimraan 3 years ago
its a 3500cc, not a 3000, thats why "she`s" name is bmw 335i...
s3rojito 3 years ago
335 IS MY CAR!! THAN IS A 3000 TWIN TURBO. 2.979cc for precision :-)))
corrado2065 3 years ago 3
Ur right.... i was wrong, but i thougth that the first number (3) was for the serie of te car, i mean, 3 series, and the other two are for the 3500cc... but it is a 3000cc...
s3rojito 3 years ago
the 335i has the same engine as the 330i just with twin turbo, so the 5 is meant to clarify the difference, although they should have just done a simple tt
NehpetsK57 2 years ago
I drive a 135i same tt engine as the 335i but a lighter car,its a sub for the cayman s because its a cheaper car, I have test driven a cayman s hard up and down gears trust me its no slouch,a sport chrono equiped car is good for 60mph in 4.8secs and it will climb over 177 mph if you got the balls and the road with virtually no roll at the corners.
Nemo13535 3 years ago
il 3000 twin-turbo e' difficile batterlo. top engine of the year 2007
corrado2065 3 years ago
...e 2008... :-D
theflashgixxer 3 years ago
es un 3500cc... thats why "she`s" name is 335i
s3rojito 3 years ago
I own a 335xi coupe and in straight line i can probably take the cayman S since im tuned but the cayman isnt just a straight line machine.
ITS A FUCKING PORSCHE with crazy handling.
jonniewaka 3 years ago
the cayman s was owned and yes a 335 has 306hp vs 295hp which means the 335 would win
Jingothemonkey 3 years ago
oh, you must be a genius... so tell me, what's about the wheight difference, and the aerodinamics!?
Alomeo 3 years ago
take a look at the video maybe that will answer ur question
Jingothemonkey 3 years ago
Hey guys, no way a standard 335 will do that to a Cayman S.
Check this video out (search it in youtube):Porsche Cayman S vs BMW 335ci
fantasticoAli 3 years ago
guys, stopo arguing i think that money is always the main factor in order to gugde what a car has to offer!!!i have ordered a 335xicoupe!the cost of the order is(full extra besides the exclusive sound system and bluetooth-phone installment) almost 80.000euros!!! plus 4seater with a respectable trunk!!! the cayman s or even a carrera s the same extras would cost 110.000 and 145.000euros!! i think now that considering value for money the 335i is a better option!!!if u have 120...buy an m5-v10!!!!
leonardo7emp 3 years ago
and what proves this is a cayman s and not a cayman.. it's very dark.. ;)
guil7777777 3 years ago
Der Porsche-Fahrer hat nicht heruntergeschaltet!
Eleonore5 3 years ago
the Porsche for the track and the BMW for everyday use, thats where these cars are best.
2fight4 3 years ago
sorry but an e92 m3 embarrasses a 911, as has been shown on here before... bar the gt3, turbo,and gt2 then it's a different story altogether!
Berrald 3 years ago
ok yeah?? than try new carrera 997 with PDK..M3 is getting destroyed easy..watch m5board tuned m3 dkg(~440-450hp) vs stock C2S(~380hp);)
golf1diesel 2 years ago
Are you guys joking? A stock 335i gives almost identical straight line performance to the Cayman S (0-60 and 1/4 mile times). Why are you surprised by this video? The Cayman S is NOT being compared to the M3. The E90 M3 is faster than the 911S, let alone the Caymans. Obviously, the Cayman is going to kill the 335i on a track, but that's not what this video is showing. Chip the 355i for $2K and it's faster (12 flat 1/4 mile) than all the Porsches except the 911 turbo and GT's.
chrismd7 3 years ago
You must be like 14 yrs old. Do me a favor. Swing by the Porsche dealership I work at right after you drive an E93 M3 and i'll show you what a C2S/C4S can do. Magazine/internet racing blows.
ApexIXMR 3 years ago
I definitely know what you mean. I've been in a 997C4S Cab and it's on a league of its own. IMHO it's the best GT pack on the market today. However, that doesn't mean Porsche can get away with the lousy facelifts and premium pricing without giving the driver more power than the competition. Porsche really needs to invest more on evolution than what they did in the past, if they wish to continue being who they are
DionysisX 3 years ago
ApexIXMR..lol..actually I'm about 10 years older than you. Also, I've already driven a 911 CS and Cayman S. I realize the value and originality of a Porsche, but they are pricey and this video is comparing straight line performance. The only Porsches faster than the new M3 or a chipped 335i are the 911 turbo and the GT's..that's a fact. I thought about buying a 911 4S, but I couldn't get myself to spend the money. For 1/2 the price, plus a $600 chip, my 335i coupe out-accelerates the Carrera S.
chrismd7 3 years ago 2
Apex...also, I realize there is more to a car than straight line performance and Porsche offers many of those intangibles that most car makers will never match. But the premium price on those cars is unbelievable. Porsche has more and more competition these days, especially with the economy down and the HP war going on between automakers.
chrismd7 3 years ago
lets try with a carrera S with Porsche Performance Pack.
emadelta86 3 years ago
They are both great cars. The BMW is more practical but if you don't need the extra seats the Porsche is a much more extreme machine. Once you test drive a Porsche nothing else will come close.
dolina64 3 years ago
either the Cayman didn't race, or it was the normal Cayman with 245bhp.
2fight4 3 years ago
Yep. I agree. That isn't the Cayman S.
brocky 3 years ago
PORSCHE IS BETTER THAN BMW
THE CAYMAN S IS BETTER AND FASTER THATN THE 335i
and it's also much nicer...bmw's always look like basic cars eventhough they make good cars
just accept it! c ya
tomtomfrance 3 years ago
bmw 335i is a fast car, ive been in one
ohsnap987 3 years ago
The Cayman S is one of the best handling cars EVER BUILT. Period. Not the fastest in either top end or 0-60, but in terms of overall balance it is one of the best. I have 14000 miles on mine and couln't be happier. Best 66k I ever spent.
younger08202 3 years ago
"EVER BUILT" are probably not the right words for that sentence.
E30M34ME 3 years ago
U know u win only cause a Cayman wont condescend a shit like thoose bmws. that factory still cant decide what they make s a limousin or a sportscar or what else?!
gergely007 3 years ago
1335i is also 200lbs lighter and more nimble than the 335i...but have a hard time with the baby cockster 2.7 as Clarkson said but 1335i
is the better tool for the job.and as far as the Cockster S is concerned forget it. its being compared to the new v8 m3.
Nemo13535 3 years ago
Cockster:D Was that guy in the Cockster S racing...? Because it looked like he was standing still and BMW just passed him...
Arturaskopytinas 3 years ago
ha.ha.ha..lol What a load of bull crap this is. The 135i is just a tad quicker than the cayman 2.7 and quicker than 335i let alone a cayman s. See fith gear comparison between 2.7 cayman and 1335i turbo.
Nemo13535 3 years ago
Who cares, the BMW is running tiny turbos that only charge 3 cylinders at a time. Its not a high boost application, the purpose of it was to make the car feel N/A ( like a small-medium size V8), which it absolutely does. The engine is a cracker, and was voted engine of the year for 3000cc and under. Now wheres the award for the Cockster?
Plus the Cockster is $20k more.
Id rather buy an M3 and not look like poopenshaft hunter!
BI2016 4 years ago
je préfère quand même le cayman, si il avait vraiment appuyé, la bmw aurait pris une de ces roustes ...
amidunet 4 years ago
fuck everyone, this is stock vs stock.. no fuckin' mods on the 335itt
carloandre0121 4 years ago
And if you search in cayman s 0 to 60 you see
it all.
cayman s in stock will run 13sec 1/4 mile,
with retricters off better air intake with chip from stchip and tune will manage it the low 12s.
pospeed 4 years ago
BM - twin turbo
GT3 is normally aspirated as is the cayman s,
but stick elec $120.0 super charger on the air intake and chip on the cayman s from shore
line tech as i have will give 40 extra horses
and 30 lbs foot of trq through out the the entire rev range.and it already has the speed/agility/tools and cornering ability like no other.
pospeed 4 years ago
just so you guys can understand how quick a v2 procede 335i is, Type "BMW 335i Vishnu V2 vs Mercedes E55 AMG " above in search block, and watch what happens to an E55 against the chipped 335i ( the video is done by the M5 board website on a airport runway).
BI2016 4 years ago
Sorry, but its much easier to make the 335i 1 second quicker over the 1/4 mile then it is the Gayman S. 1300 bucks with a vishnu procede V2, and the 335i runs 12.3 secs @ 117mph. thats pretty much quicker then any porsche bar a 997 GT3 and Turbo (GT2 aswell).
Bottom line youll have spent 45k max, where as a stock Cayman is in the 60s. Put another 10-15k into the Cayman to get it into the mid 12s, and your look at nearly 80 large all up.
BI2016 4 years ago
I agree with you there. Think I'll wait 5 or 6 year till the Cayman S is in the 30K-40K range used, then nab a good one and fab a twin turbo setup for it.
driftslave 4 years ago
Porsche Cayman S > 335i...
chose the Cayman S's main competitor from Baveria - the Z4M Coupe...
calladuz 4 years ago
Youre insane. A 3.2 liter wannabe porsche vs a 3.0 twin-turbo. The BMW owns the porsche all day. Get out of here. Oh and the 335 in the video is automatic...WACK
Surge80 4 years ago
umm...its 3.4L at least get your facts right... and two the BMW is a tank weighing almost 600 lbs. more than the Cayman S... you can get the Porsche's 0-60 to 4.8 secs just look at any car mag. I would like to see the Bimmer outhandle it as well - they're in too way different segments, a Cayman S is built for the turns, with the ability to turn with one of the highest exit speeds in the automotive world..
calladuz 4 years ago 11
does that fool think he can really beat a sports car( cayman s) in his luxury beamer
xkennyx187 4 years ago
BMWs are crap cars with 2nd rate quality. The new Accord blows it away. They are only fir image and those with insecurity issues. Ihad 4 before I grew up and got past the advertising.
I would take a Lexus IS350 anyday over that garbage.
exBMRguy 4 years ago
you are extremely biased. obviously much more biased than those who simply take a BMW for its image. The 335i runs the IS350 all day long. The IS had enough trouble competing against the old 330's. But...enjoy your rice, fanboy.
ABlackGuyFootball 4 years ago 2
Haha I dont know who you guys are referring to not having either of the products, but not everyone on here is 16 years old. The 335i is quicker in a straight line, 20k less to buy, and more praticle to live with, aswell as lapping just as quickly as an E46 m3 around the nurburgring and laguna seca.
The Cayman is a great focused little car, with amazing poise and balance. They really have totally different Target Markets
BI2016 4 years ago 3
bmw is a wonderful car company, but it is not fair to them in the same league as porsche. I had a bmw e36 m3 and it was a wonderful car but nothing comoares to the input you get between the driver and a porsche. it truly is a experience. and by the way the list price on a bmw m5 is$ 79,000
porschecaymens07 4 years ago
base is 83k but fully loaded will put you over 95k
footballer233 4 years ago
you spelled Cayman S wrong in your username.
nonagon1 4 years ago
The two posts below me should blow me. 335i is a fantastic car, pretty much stock to stock on par with the e46 m3. How does a honda friggin civic SI, a 24g car fully loaded with crap quality even compare to a 300+ hp car with excellent quality and handeling...Nurburgring times dont lie. and you obviously dont have a bmw when u compare them to hondas. and if a 335i isnt a decent bmw then what is? a 90+ grand m5
justwild 4 years ago
bmw 335 that car is for people who wish they could afford a real car
porschecaymens07 4 years ago
335's are just over hyped Honda Civics. Buy a reaal BMW
exBMRguy 4 years ago
STFU. you prob have a civic.
ebendude 4 years ago
low moment of inertia, engine in the right place, high stiffness chassis. Driver oriented, it should be easier to live with than the 911 and a lot easier to have fun in. props to the company's commitment to building a true sports cars. and power means nothing without agility.
soulstudio 4 years ago 2
It truly is. If they put the engines that they have in the Carreras in the Cayman, the 911s wouldn't sell anymore. It would be the ultimate Porsche with 500hp or something, but they won't do that because the 911 is their flagship car, and they want to keep it that way, but it sure would be great if they did.
felipeohyeah 3 years ago
You last two guys are stupid. My dad has a brand new new 2007 Cayman S. It is no poor man's car just because it is less expensive than the Carrera. It is the fastest thing in turns and would beat the BMW 335i in a track any day. Now im not saying that the BMW is a bad car, but the Porsche is just better. Way better.
felipeohyeah 4 years ago 2
Yes it has to be said that this Porsche truly is 'The Poor Mans Porsche'The 335 is the better car and the wiser choice here.
mkfox2000 4 years ago
I might add that the Porsche is also the 'girlier' of the two cars - truly the womans choice.
mkfox2000 4 years ago
That's what you think. Which i don't really care. I just saying based on facts. I don't think you can say anything here because you don't have either a Porsche or a BMW, and if the Porsche is the poor man's car, then you have a serious finance problem buddy.
felipeohyeah 4 years ago 2
Totally agree with you 'felipeohyeah'.
GT3LM 4 years ago
You mate, have problems, you are a retard. You are ovbiously a twelve year old who hasn't a clue about cars. Ovbiously you do not have a Porsche, or a decent BMW. Go do some reasearch on cars.
GT3LM 4 years ago 3
In the states, you can buy a Gayman S for around $60k, while a base Carrera is in the 80s... not particularily expensive when you consider in countries like australia, south africa, asian countries such as singapore, china these two cars would cost 130k and 200k respectively.
Even in Australia, if you dish out 130k ( you could buy a decked out 997 turbo cab for that in the states) for a Gayman S, youd still be considered to be driving the poor mans variant
BI2016 4 years ago
gayman.... hahahahahaha
onlythetruth34 4 years ago
Mate,
only in the US where cars cost pennys does one see females driving 335is or boxsters/Gaymans.
Most 335 buyers are young males who see the words "twin turbo" and realise how tunable the car is. There are already near 500hp variants, running mild boost figures, and the mods were very inexpensive ( chip, filter, exhaust).
BI2016 4 years ago
Engine tuning is done by ppl who can't use the full potential of the car...(or bored of it once they can lol)
You know how much Porsche had to strict the Cayman S in order to not cannibalize the 997? You can just as easily increase the hp figure on the car by taking out the air restrictors and a ECU revamp...add a LSD to it and its good to go...HP doesn't matter, bhp to weight does, and with 600 lbs more in the bimmer, the Cayman wins
calladuz 4 years ago 2
there is no argument here, the 335 outperforms the cayman in all areas...to say it best, the cayman is the poor mans porsche. A bad car with a good emblem.
k8ballerr 4 years ago
Are you fucking stupid!? The Cayman is a GREAT car! If a it was a little faster it would lap a Carrera! Man you stupid little kids now jack shit about cars, and BTW theres no such thing as a poor mans Porsche.....stupid shit.
DJSnipa 4 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
if you think its a great car so be it, but the 335 is a MUCH better car. and the only stupid fukn one around here is you fukn dumbass watch your mouth from now on
k8ballerr 4 years ago
LMAO, another person who knowns noting about cars. Just another stupid fanboy.
DJSnipa 4 years ago
I agree DJSnipa. If gayballer over there would get his head out of his ass and read the facts he would see how the Porsche is better. This video isn't even good. How do you know its a Cayman S? And you can clearly see that its just cruising, because it has a faster top speed. Nothing beats the drivability of a porsche. Now im not saying that the 335i is a bad car, but the Cayman S IS a better car. Hit the facts.
felipeohyeah 4 years ago
a poor mans porsche?.......umm yeah definetly porsches are for poor people.......(sarcasim)
prob08 4 years ago
haha
felipeohyeah 4 years ago
plain and simple the cayman is a sports car and the 335i is for my grandma
jgf365 4 years ago
Youve portrayed fuck all knowledge yourself, ( you back this up by bothering to compare the two cars topspeeds , when everyone knows a 335i is limited to 155mph, and can easily top 180- as they say, people in glass houses...) and have no facts nor proof to back up your claims. So just go and live your life Vicariously through others and pretend to have what ever you want.
BI2016 4 years ago
Once again another comment backed up by nothing.
you give no substance in your arguement.
I know the Porsche cayman is a 217kw, 340nm mid engined german excuse for a hairdryer that you seem to love. It laps as quickly as an enzo around Fiarano, but its due to the laps relative tightness ( both do 55 secs).
Ive driven this car many a time, and the constant feeling I get from it is that its a detuned 3.4L, with room for uptuning as the car moves through its life.
BI2016 4 years ago
Mate you cant even speak English, Why am I bothering to argue against someone who claims to own both cars, yet has the inability to spell his name.
Not many 37 year olds from Britain with a spare 60,000 pounds to blow on a supposed 335 and Cayman S are intellectually challenged.
Your a 16 year old kid arent you?
BI2016 4 years ago
You really do make me laugh,your knowledge on car's go's as far as bmw and nothing else
I guess with that narrow mind you best stick with fast saloons and fat buses.
pospeed 4 years ago
Oh really, I do believe every time ive tried, the only time the cayman ever gets ahead is on the start due to its superior power down than a 335i. A Cayman is really not quick above 100mph.
Either way, continue to delude yourself, its really on you and a couple other 16 year olds who feel this way.
BI2016 4 years ago
340 newton metres? thats like braging about beating a Prius in a drag race. A procede V2 335i has 550-600nm at 1300rpm-600rpm and 430hp @ 6800rpm. A stock 335i dynoes 295rwhp or 340hp at the flywheel, and 460nm. Considering bmw claims 302bhp and 400nm, you can see how conservative the claims are, mainly because they did not want to steal the E46 M3s "top dog" spot when the 335i was released.
BI2016 4 years ago
ha ah.
is a shame the bmw can't deliver it the the cayman s dose with just its 340nm enough for any sport boy racer's car .
pospeed 4 years ago
But in straightline speed a 335i is quicker stock then a cayman S through a 1/4mile, on the roll 50-70mph, and anything over 100mph it decimates it.
With a procede , a 335i decimates a Carrera S
BI2016 4 years ago
Totally disagree as to 60 cayman s nose's ahead above a hundred with the sports option activated and due to the fact it has better aero dynamics stock 335i is nailed first time every time.
pospeed 4 years ago
I do believe this arguement is based on straightline speed, and your claim is that the Cayman S is a better tool for it. Ive admitted that the Cayman S is a more focused handler, albiet twitchy at the limit due to its mid engined design aswell as having inferior powerdown then a standard 911 ( for the same reason--> more weight over the rear axel = better power down).
BI2016 4 years ago
Mate, quite smoking your happy cabbage, in a straight line a cayman s will get its ass handed to it by hotted up rice rockets, let alone a new m3.
The video explains everything. And its just a stock 335i, imagine a procede version.
BI2016 4 years ago
You should heed your own advice and move onto Porsche because that Gayman that you supposedly drive doesnt cut it.
Carrera s, GT3, and Turbo are porsches. Boxsters and Gaymans are hairdresser cars
why would I spend an extra 30k on a car that gets outdone by cheaper variants.
considering the new M3 will be 60grand, There is no reason to even consider a Cayman/Boxster
BI2016 4 years ago
HA HA,Porsche's have alway's understated their figures right back from the launch of of the 930 ,
The aligater aka caymans s is here to stay no matter what you or they say. with 340 nuton meters of torque coupled with its superior aero dynamics and handling are more than enough to say bye bye to 335i and a sports tuned version is more than a match for the M3.
pospeed 4 years ago
If you truley owned both you wouldnt be defending the Cayman S's straightline ability ( or lack there of) would you?
No ofcourse you wouldnt be.
You would have also agreed how tunable the 335i is, and that its far quicker then the figures BMW released ( due to the need for their to be clear power distinction between the current m3 and 335i).
You wouldnt have bothered arguing about top speed when you know the 335i is limited to 155mph, and desrestricted can do 180mph +
BI2016 4 years ago
BI2016,
Bmw great all rounder excellent lux pack.
move on to porsche and you won't need to derestict or tune.
pospeed 4 years ago
I do believe both of those cars will ass kick a Cayman s in a straight line.
I do believe my arguement is 335i is a far better straightline weapon of choice then a cayman S, considering you just buy a chip and youve got a low 12 second car. If you really have a 335i, you would know this
BI2016 4 years ago
Im not doubting the Cayman S is a more focused handler and designed to be a closed top roadster, the 335i on the other hand is an all rounder/ luxury GT, they really have totally different target markets.
The reason the 335i has had such praise is because it can do everything really well, including having the pace to upset the E46 M3, and the audi S5 on the track
Porsche
BI2016 4 years ago
"european drivers" are you racist now hahaha?
I do believe Car and driver lapped the 335i coupe round laguna seca quicker then a Z4m, and RS4. I doubt the Cayman S would be quicker then those two.
The other you thing have to consider is the 335i has an open Diff, versus the cayman S LSD. Chuck in a procede V2 ( 430hp), and a LSD, and youll have a very low 12 second 50grand car.
How much is a cayman? like 20k more then that hahaha
BI2016 4 years ago
Ha Ha, rs4 nice but another sofa not sports car but a fast sallon,ha ha. z4 m again in stock form restricted already beaten by the cayman s around the nurburgring due to the fact the cayman s has far superior handling then both the bmw and audi.
pospeed 4 years ago
I agree with you but wanted to mention that the Cayman S actually does not have a limited slip differential.
nonagon1 4 years ago
So now are you hinting a cayman is more capable then a gt3? hahaha
BI2016 4 years ago
No its definetly more capable than 335i,this is just a example of what a tuned cayman s is capable of doing in the hands of european drivers.
pospeed 4 years ago
A Cayman S is a hairdressers car, no one actually wants to own one of these, they simply cant afford a 911.
A 335i is a great weekday gt car, that with slight mods can run mid to low 12 sec 1/4 miles.
BI2016 4 years ago
A Cayman prepared and run by privateers Jürgen and Uwe Alzen finished fourth overall (of 220 entrants) in the 2007 running of the Nürburgring 24 Hour race, ahead of two flagship Porsche 997 GT3 RSR's, a 997 GT3 Cup, and a 996 GT3 Cup. Another two privateer Caymans, entered by CSR and MSpeed, finished 22nd and 117th overall.
pospeed 4 years ago
Pospeed a carrera S doesnt hit 300km/h, so why on earth would a cayman s hahaha
BI2016 4 years ago
my dad has the 07 cayman S and its quick as hell...so who ever says its not should go to a dealer and test drive it and feel stupid...i would rather pull up in a porsche then a bmw...you may see alot of 335i on the road but you most deff dont see alot of cayman S's...becuase its an exclusive car
pruoner 4 years ago
Only idiotic teenagers would bother arguing without owning.
Find a Test of a Cayman S beating a 335i! you cant fucking find one because it cant.
As for saying this is a procede 335i, its not nearly fast enough to be one, procedes can hold an E60 m5.
A Caymans a hairdressers car, I have no idea as to why people actually think they are fast in a straightline.
Google 335 vs carrera S, and youll see how a procede can leave a Carrera S behind, let alone a stupid cayman
BI2016 4 years ago
Just check out u tube cayman s top speed, and cayman s doing 186mph in the red line at autobahn,enough to blow your mind and the doors away of any 335i.
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pospeed 4 years ago
LMAO, 335 is more of the "hairdressers car" I see more & more women driving them everyday! Porsche has been known for making true sports cars. And well...BMW is known for making fast commuters. 335 wont outperform a S on the track, records show it to be true. Well Iv said what I needed to say, now please lay the insults on me.
DJSnipa 4 years ago 3
The top speed of the 335i is limited to 155mph, otherwise its good for 180+mph.
If you search 335i procede on you tube, you will see 911 carrera S, amgs, M3s and others all get their ass kicked by 335i procede.
My procede does 0-60 in 4.1 secs and low 12 1/4 miles. Im happy to race any idiot on here in his Cayman S. You wont see which way i went!
BI2016 4 years ago 2
Ha Ha,
Owened and tested both No matter How good the bmw is their will always be A porsche to out gun it.
pospeed 4 years ago
Just check out u tube cayman s top speed, and cayman s doing 186mph in the red line at autobahn,enough to blow your mind and the doors away of any 335i.
pospeed 4 years ago
If money is no object, then yes. But then if money is no object, then I'll take a Bugatti Veyron!
nonagon1 4 years ago
Your all liars.
Anyone who knew what they were talking about knows the 335i is pretty similar 0-60mph time because the 335i is underated by bmw at 300hp when its putting out nearer 340 stock.
independant tests show 4.8 and 13.3 sec 1/4s for stock 335s.
BI2016 4 years ago
I own both the bi turbo BMW e90 335i and cayman s and thought i'd let you know the cayman s is faster o to 60 and go's on to 178 mph top speed in my 335i gives up at 153mph and it all depends on the driver if he's willing to go to the limit , the cayman s is also far superior around the bends and lapped the nurburgring faster both the new v8 m3 and 911 997 3.6.
pospeed 4 years ago
the bmw with PROcede is increadibly powerful and besides the clayman is $58900 to the 335i with a price tag of $50000 so u take the sports package on the bmw with procede $51365 will beat the cayman every time and is still cheaper!
0x0Fire0x0 4 years ago 3
The Cayman S is a beautiful and powerful car, but after a year and a half of use.. it got a bit "dull"...
I find the 335i incredibly appealing...
But then again, nothing beats a Porsche :p
Zooza87 4 years ago
what caymanclub said is true there is no way the bmw can keep up 2 the porshe. My friends 335 tops of at 160 the porshe tops off at 175 so there u go.
ervgody 4 years ago
if you are not driving a turbo 911 or a carrera gt you are a weak porsche -----botton line !
las25 4 years ago
bmw o-100 5,5 with manual transmision
porsche 0-100 5,4 manual transmision
geamnegru 4 years ago
hahaha bmw or porsche? bmw can burn for me, I'd take a porsche over a bmw anyday of the week, besides a cayman S on track beats the crap out of a 335 totally it's a sports car not like the 335 which is a sporty sedan
vergadetoro 4 years ago 3
I dont think the Cayman driver changed down gear so he just lugged it. Not a fair test just did not push it that hard.
bluetardis 4 years ago
BMW 335 0 - 60 is 4.8 and its handeling is amazing..50/50 weight distribution...besides BMWs stats arent their full output potential...the numbers BMW gives are always less than what it can actually do... thats a fact. Its not like it was racin' a real porche guys....BMW also has amazing torque and is set up very well
davmj4 4 years ago
i was at the track the other day, and a guy ran a 13.0 at 112mph w/ just software in his 335i.
mezz0italiano 4 years ago
No way a stock 335i is faster than a Cayman S unless the Cayman S driver is loafing it. The Cayman S in stock form routinely runs 4.8 0-60 and 13.2 1/4 mile and that is just in a straight line, go into the corners and the Cayman will eat the 335i alive. The Cayman S is a sports car the 335 is sort of a sporty sedan. If you want the real information on Caymans you need to visit Cayman Club dot Net
CaymanClub 4 years ago 2
blah blah blah , the cayman lost this one, end of story
latinochileno1978 4 years ago
this just a cayman not s and on track it would still whoop the bm
pospeed 4 years ago
It is an S, 335i will win in a straight line race. Porsche is the true car here though.
DJSnipa 4 years ago
The 335i has more RPM.
henidar 4 years ago
Its very obvious that the Porsche was just going at cruisng speed! Not racing with the 335i...
camdotcom 4 years ago 3
Even tho its slower I'll take a Cayman S over that 3 series grocery getter any day of the week. Str8 line 0-60 etc.. aint everything.
Toyman07 4 years ago 2
Look at how a stock 335 goes against an M5 off the mark and then on the roll. Type in 335 vs M5, and youll see a new m5 having seriously difficulties ( and in a 3rd or 4th gear roll actually lose to a 335)
BI2016 4 years ago
BMW data is conservative crap. Firstly a 335i weighs 1550kg. puts out aroun 330bhp stock ( not the 300 claimed) or 290bhp atw, aswell as around 30-40lbs more then claimed. Stock it will run 4.8 secs to 60 and as low as 13.3 secs of a standing 1/4 mile. On the roll, it will pull away from a cayman S
BI2016 4 years ago
In fact 335 won't even outrun a stock standard cayman 2.7 as it tops 158 bm gives up 155 ,its clear to seein this video cayman is just cruising.
pospeed 4 years ago
hahaha
yusuf33 4 years ago
The BMW 335i weighs 1800 kg. The Cayman S 1350 kg.
The BMW has a 0-100 km/h acc of 5.8 sec. (Official BMW data)
The Cayman S 0-100 km/h in 5.4 secs.
That´s just the raw statistics. Then driver skills, urge to dragrace etc etc comes into play. And this is in a straight line. As soon as these cars hit serious curves the BMW is just another -albeit nice - sedan. The Cayman a sportscar.
Porsche might be overpriced, but there is a reason why they claim "there is no substitute" :)
lassebauer 4 years ago
No doubt Porsche are superior sports cars overall. However the official acceleration figures given by BMW for the 335i are conservative. I've seen 0-60 in 4.9s for a stock 335i. However you are right, a Cayman S (or even a Boxster S) around a curve is truly impressive.
nonagon1 4 years ago
A 335 will drill a Cayman S on the roll. Ofcourse a G35 would lose to a 335, a G35 will usually pull 14.5 over a 1/4 mile to a 335s 13.5. No contest really. I never really understood why people think G35s are quick, after driving plenty, they are nothing special in a straight line. They sound nice though.
BI2016 4 years ago
porsche cayman S: 0-60mph 5.4 check in
bmw 335i : 0-60mph in 5.1
remember that cayman its even not near of a porsche 911
deivo4 4 years ago
You´re right. The Cayman is actually FASTER than the 911 in the corners. The Cayman is also a better car when it comes to balance than the 911, but for political reasons Porsche dont want to make the Cayman as powerful as the 911. It´s a pity, cuz the car deserves a lot more than 295BHP.
lassebauer 4 years ago
good vid guys
Nojanf 4 years ago
some other video looks just like this and says it's a G35
Fryx9 4 years ago
Ok I'll agree now that this was a race and you did beat him. I don't think it was a S though, you sure?
golfguy11800 4 years ago
yeah bro.. 335i got cayman S.. only if there are no corners..lol
stepthc 4 years ago
bmws r also sick on corners too
baluchsaab 4 years ago
yup
they test the FASTER z4 M against the 335i
with cornering and shit
and the 335i won due to NEAR perfect weight distrib.
dmkaldas 4 years ago
no it didnt, the Z4 M has near 50/50 weight distribution as well, ALL BMWs DO. The reason the 335 won was due to its torque.
Maui2010 4 years ago
lol, yeah right...
Homejengeneering 4 years ago
is the 335i proceded?
charlielu05 4 years ago
yes its procedere :DDDDD
stoneeh 4 years ago
You sure that's an S?
jesterlead 4 years ago