Jim Humble Responds to FDA Campaign Against MMS

[slightlyirked]

On top of that the active ingredient is given in homeopathic quantities. The rest is distilled water. Even arsenic isn't poisonous and is sometimes actually helpful in such small quantities.

[slightlyirked]

I have no experience with MMS, but last time I checked, bleach is made from Sodium hypochlorite and water, not chlorine dioxide. At least that's what Chlorox is made of. So these claims that he's selling chlorine bleach are incorrect. Some may say it's all the same and there's just a small difference in semantics, but bleach is basically another form of salt water after electrolysis takes place. Does that make salt water the same as bleach? A beach goer wouldn't say it does!

[prodigal1978]

I love Jim Humble and am very grateful for him on this planet!! MMS has saved my life no less than twice and saved me from having to endure costly doctor bills and prescription costs. Several years ago, it saved my life from swine flu and from my lungs filling up so rapidly, I would've died before EMS could've got me to the hospital. It is truly miraculous stuff and never believe anyone who tells you otherwise!!

[phillip78]

MMS got rid of my wife's bad tooth pain, and cleared up her sinus infection in just 1 day, and the fda calls a stomach ache a health injury? Really? If I drink tea right after waking up I ALWAYS get a stomach ache, does this mean that is a health injury too? Does this mean lipton tea should be banned cause I get a stomach ache? Redundant!

[NaduaGarbe]

I take 12 drops a day of MMS for a year now,and never had any diahrrea, neither vomiting, nor my blood preassure changed, only my health improved,ever since I've never had cold or flu nor sore throat. even cures my headaches. I love it and Love JIm HUmble.

[MrMinutemen]

I LOVE MMS. i wasnt sick but improved my health and cured about 4 people in my area, mostly arthritis. its magic to most but thats just because we live in the dark ages. if you're full of toxins u could vommit or get diarea. That's just the cleaning process, only the first time. Lay of the cocacola and microwave food.

[ramrod20042000]

A CRAZY OLD MAN! THIS CLORINE BLEACH DOES NOT CURE ANYTHING INSIDE THE HUMAN BODY, JUST DOES HARM!

[footman447]

It makes you violently sick and gives you catastrophic diarrhoea if you drink more than a tiny bit! That should give even the most impressionable of conspiracy theorists a clue!

Its bleach. If you're stupid enough to think that drinking bleach will cure cancer then there is no help for you and you should drink, say, 100ml of the perfectly safe and wholesome MMS, and thus remove yourself from the gene pool.

[schnittteisen]

@footman447

mms causes cancer? :D no substance causes cancer. take a look at "neue germanische medizin" and its "5 biological natural laws", first discovered by Dr. Hamer, a Suisse doctor.

[arch571332]

I heard that allegedly, one woman died from it. The reason thats silly it this;

How many people have died or become ill from chemotharapy? How many people die because the FDA approves a drug? Those are similar simptoms are similar to most perscription drugs. Chemotherapy is basically putting acid in your blood.

Why don't they ban Chemo? It makes no sense?

[peri525]

whatever the FDA say ill do the oposite

[mcpat1000]

youtube death by docter .you'll find that 15 thousand medicare pt die from the biggest drug pushers in the us the white cotes they call doctors and protected by the FDA . go to protect big pharma.

[IlKimJung]

Both ozone and chlorine are much more reactive than chlorine dioxide, and they will be consumed by most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide however, reacts only with reduced sulphur compounds, secondary and tertiary amines, and some other highly reduced and reactive organics. This allows much lower dosages of chlorine dioxide to achieve a more stable residual than either chlorine or ozone. It destroys THM precursors and increases coagulation

[trellanera2012]

FDA and any 3-letter government agency can kiss my ass, because I'm not American :P

After 20 years of trying every prescription known to man, to treat a stupid skin problem, I used MMS2 just 2 times. It disappeared within a WEEK and hasnt gone back since! Big Pharma sucks and stories like mine are the living proof that MMS works on almost anything

MMS2 is enough for YEARS not days. Of course Jim pissed off everyone making $ by keeping people SICK instead of treating them. This guy is a hero

[CommentsSurvey]

The FDA does not protect us, the consumers, any more. They are an arm of Big Pharm. I wish it were not so, but I can't change it. FDA has continued to approve cancer-causing ingredients in makeup and skin care lotions, which were "grandfathered in" when these same agents were taken OFF the market for other products. Why do you think women have a 50% of getting breast cancer? Along with the synthetic estrogens that were prescribed for years and years?

[williamta01]

God bless Jim Humble. God bless you for uploading these videos of Jim.

[Dijaveen]

Sometimes (often actually) simple logic is impossible to fathom for highly educated people ... In their mind ALL things have to be complicated ..That is why they can not understand (or refuse for other reasons) the simple technique of MMS! - The lack of WILL to understand Jim Humble, is so questioning to the good will whatever they claim to have for people suffering from anything that MMS could help them off with!

[hoaxchaser]

I take great comfort in this FDA warning. If that is the only thing "THE FDA' can come up with then mms has my quote of approval. They have actually showed me just how safe this is. Thumbs up if you agree

[PalmBeachSOS]

I had chemo 10 years ago.. I was carrying in my system all those poisons... MMS helped me get rid of all, yes I felt some nausea for a while. ..but  became very perfectly regular... I gained so much energy, i dont get even colds ! thanks a lot Mr. Humble God Bless you !

[rossathome]

I have taken MMS for 18 months without any problems, I took 12 drop each day .All I can say is I feel better with it.

[qwertzuiop131]

strange i was sure this video was hire since 1 year before i even saw that today its 24.08.2011 02:40 cool date & time XD

[SRVjediknight]

I have been using this for 6 months great product !!!!!!

[mmsfraud]

14 years but there is not ONE SINGLE VERIFIED CASE of a serious illness like AIDS or HSV cured by MMS.

If it was really a miracle cure like Jim claims it is, after FOURTEEN years it should be trivial to find hundreds if not thousands of people genuinely cured of serious diseases with verified before and after test results proving it. Instead all we have is stories and excuses.

Google mmsdebunked for more information.

[stinkleaf]

Ok its time for everyone who uses it to post their blood test reports before and after. I plan to do it this way. The only proof one can ever believe is by oneself. If you trust the science funded by big pharma or any corporation whos model for making money is to NOT develop a cure for anything but rather a pill to deal with the effects then attach along side it a slew of more side effects which some are worse than the ailment itself. Have you watched some of these drug commercials lately?

[ThePhantomLash]

Where can i get MMS and DMSO ?

[247websolutions]

The Federal Drug Administrators are a dangerous rouge agency that cannot be trusted. They work for Big Pharma and this makes them the enemy of the people.

[sstylianou]

Check out the BS from the 'The One show' on the BBC that channel is pure NWO trash there are saying Jim is a liar yet they are the real liars period!

[Powernlove]

The people that are against MMS put waaay too much trust in their government. After all the statistics he just read, you pharisees want to stay tied to your vatican funded medical schools. MMS does wonders, and its just simple science, its only done me favors. The problem is your government wants to be your God, and watch over you with their masonic eye....... :-)

[kodonga]

Jim, I took your MMS a few days ago after contracting a very severe condition of FLU which under normal conditions and according to my experience, would made me bed ridden for a week or more. I took NINE DROPS of MMS. In less than two hours I had serious diarrhoea for the next 12 hours and felt even worse. But after another twelve hours I regained my healt ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. JIM, may God bless you and to HELL WITH YOUR DITRACTORS: MMS TAKES CARE OF MY HEALTH PERIOD!

[halleyscomet]

@kodonga Cute claims, but there's no way to verify them.

That's the point of clinical trials. the data is available for review, can be checked and the results verified by subsequent studies. For all we know you had a minor cold and mistook it for the onset of influenza, meaning your "recovery" is unrelated to taking MMS. You could be lying.

If MMS works, why have there been NO clinical trials? Humble could easily do some pilot studies while treating people in Africa.

[kodonga]

@halleyscomet Look, I don't care about what you say about my assertions. One thing I know is that MMS works for me and I'll continue taking it to solve my health problems. We are all entitled to our opinions and should I say beliefs? I must say that to me medical science isn't a pure science. Treating illnesses is as old as mankind itself. It doesn't belong to a community, scientific or otherwise. Anybody can treat and cure. Examples abound everywhere.It's not an exclusive domain, period!

[halleyscomet]

@kodonga We are entitled to our own beliefs, we are not entitled to our own facts.

Your alleged positive experiences with MMS are easily explained as confirmation bias. There are NO clinical trials demonstrating efficacy or safety of MMS, despite the fact that the inventor, Jim Humble, claims to have been treating patients for years. It would have been trivial and inexpensive to gather the data for initial trials yet he hasn't.

Why not?

If it works why has he done NOTHING to prove it?

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet What exactly are the procedures for clinically trials demonstrating CLO2's effectiveness and safety?

Your reply is to general. How can any answer be found if the facts you talk about are not in your own claims?

I'm interested to know the accual costs and timescales involved and of course if properly informed then a proper conclusion can be sought.

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 "What exactly are the procedures for clinically trials demonstrating CLO2's effectiveness and safety?"

It's called a clinical trail. Your ignorance of the basics of how drugs are tested and approved speaks volumes. My advice is general because all I'm asking is that MMS be subjected to the same evidence requirements as any other approved drug, not given an excuse form providing actual evidence because Jim Humble knows it would never survive actual scrutiny by competent researchers.

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet And I asked once already that if you are expecting people to make an informred view you could at the very least supply all the facts. So my question still stands. If I wanted to have CLO2 clinically trialled then how much would it cost and how long would it take?

Your assuming that I know nothing of how drugs are tested and approved. Stop assuming and answer the question. If you cannot then that is fine. I simply wish to understand if you understand the reality.

[mull79204]

Again though I must stress that I am not interested in your assumptions. What you believe Jim Humble believes is of no interest to me.

Fact is CLO2 already has survived actual scrutiny by competent researchers which is now why CLO2 is marketed as the most effective water purifer available. Totally fit for human consumption as per instructions. As well as other tests including 1 from the early 80's of particular note.

Ironically it is your ignorance that shines through.

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 "Fact is CLO2 already has survived actual scrutiny by competent researchers"

That's a lie.

If you're telling the truth, then were has their research been published? What was the difference between the placebo group and the ones getting MMS? What was actually measured to gauge the efficacy of the drug?

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet er.. er i'm confused you stated that my comment was a lie then ask me for answers to your questions?? bizare behaviour.

Best thing for you to do is read the research currently available to see if it meets your approval either way I rate CLO2 positivly.

[mull79204]

On a side note i'm still waiting for trading standards to call back after all this FSA excitment confirming that the CLO2 water purifier sold in outdoors shops is safe to use as it is exactly the same as "mms" and used in the same way. Strange then how 1 could be safe and the other not??

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 Put it through the same approval process required by any FDA approved drug. If it actually worked then getting funding for Stage 1 and 2 clinical trails would be trivial from any of the third world nations currently struggling under Malaria.

"Your assuming that I know nothing of how drugs are tested and approved"

Based upon the fact that you need details after what I've already written it's pretty clear you DON'T know there's an established, standard process.

[chop98]

@halleyscomet I can see your point with the FDA trials and all, but let's consider that the FDA has approved aspartame and various other chemicals to be consumed by the masses. We all know at this point that there may be a small handful of people that work for the FDA that have the actual concern of healthy products in mind for distribution. True enough...having verifiable data is a good thing. The other side is that this stuff may actually work and would prove a hit to Big Pharma. Yes?

[halleyscomet]

@chop98 Let me get this straight. You're unhappy with the level of evidence regarding aspartame safety, so you want to hold a guy telling you to drink bleach to a LOWER standard of evidence?

That's just giving up. You're surrendering to chaos and deciding to let anyone who makes any unverified medical claims sell their wares. If you think "Big Pharma" is bad now, just wait until they no longer have to do ANY testing, which is the standard of evidence you're advocating for Jim Humble and MMS.

[halleyscomet]

@chop98 "this stuff may actually work"

Right now, there's NO evidence that it works. The people prescribing it haven't even bothered to publish case studies. ALL we have are the marketing claims of the people selling it and vague testimonials. You might as well declare aspartame 100% safe because the makers of Coke say it is and 20 random people on the Internet say it never made THEM sick.

Using MMS because it would hit big pharma if it DID work doesn't mean it actually DOES work.

[phaelosopher]

@halleyscomet -- The people who are using MMS are not "researchers" -- they are already SICK (without having taken MMS) and taking steps to get WELL. A SIGNIFICANT percentage are doing it too, and then GETTING BACK TO LIVING THEIR LIVES. The one's who do talk about their healing, you and other detractors dismiss by calling anecdotal or flat out denying that it's possible. You'd put more credence in researchers findings on rats and mice than real people honestly sharing their success.

[halleyscomet]

@phaelosopher "more credence in researchers findings on rats and mice than real people honestly sharing their success. "

Well, yes actually. Self-diagnosis is notoriously unreliable. Hypochondriacs for example tend to respond well to placebo. Testimonials on a web site don't weed them out. Without independent medical testing we have NO reason to trust any of the anecdotes. What's worse we have no way of knowing if these are real people, or just sock puppet accounts for the people selling MMS.

[timhenson08]

@halleyscomet "Right now, there's NO evidence that it works."

You're wrong. I've seen the official numbers from the Jim Humble centers in Africa. A LOT of Malaria and AIDS patients are avoiding science based treatments in favor of taking MMS. We're talking "giving the Native Americans smallpox infected blankets" level of ethnic cleansing here, all without firing a single shot.

The white supremacists are THRILLED with the return on their investment.

[kodonga]

@halleyscomet Jim has nothing to prove. Nor do I have anything to prove. MMS cures.Isn't that proof enough? This is a sterile debate. The so-called clinical trials you insist upon are to me nothing but the phanthasmagorical delutions of a pseudo-science community.Nothing to do with the real world. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. And that's so very true of medicine. I consider your attitude as part of an orchetrated campaign to discredit Jim Humble. But you are fighting a lost battle

[halleyscomet]

@kodonga "MMS cures.Isn't that proof enough?"

Your unsubstantiated claims do not constitute proof.

[fkoff99]

@kodonga Don't pay attention to the motherfucker fda approved asshole/cunt 'halleyssucker". It is a piece of worthless shit that should banished forever.

[timhenson08]

That shortness of breath you feel? That's because MMS has reduced your blood's ability to carry oxygen. The haemoglobin in your blood cells has been oxidized to form methaemoglobin, thus losing the ability to carry oxygen. The longer you use MMS, the more symptoms this will cause. Don't worry though, the damaged cells will die eventually . If you stop MMS and don't get carbon monoxide poisoning you'll recover, assuming you don't suffer brain or tissue damage in the interim.

[mull79204]

@timhenson08 lol

[mull79204]

@timhenson08 I get that when I smoke a cigarette.

[Maurolore]

I, my family and friends had great results by MMS... FDA will NOT foolish us... ;-)

[Simunye1969]

@Maurolore I and some of my friends use it for months, and only with good results.

[turbo2gq]

I also noticed that MMS brings down the swelling in lymph nodes due to an infection. I have tested it on many different ailments and bought 20 kits for friends with sinus infections, diabetes, the flu, headaches, cold sores and other ailments some didn't wish to mention. As a former military person I know that our water purification units use this same compound to treat our field water in order to kill the bugs in it. If our bodies are just one big bag of water then purification is the key.

[turbo2gq]

As a smoker I noticed that I didn't have a smokers cough at nite while on MMS. I could see that it helped get rid of the toxins in my lungs. Also I have gotten rid of the Flu while taking just MMS itself and it also cures bad breath and some dental problems. I noticed that it put more oxygen into my muscles and helped sleeping problems associated with the liver. I've also have had very vivid & memorable dreams almost every nite which may be associated to the decalcification of my pineal gland

[turbo2gq]

I started MMS close to a year ago but started out the doses slowly at 1drop for a couple of days to a week and then went up slowly as well. I've never needed to use 15drops 3 times a day as some recommend. I noticed that it does have a detoxifying effect and that it will have side effects that are related to detoxification. They don't last long especially if you don't have ALOT of toxins in your body to begin with. It does work I've been on 4,5 or 6 drops daily for over 10m without any side Fx.

[funksoul06]

Disinformation agents are working as hard as ever. PERIOD.

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

Why did you try MMS? Because you were sick already.

Why were you on CureZone in the first place? Obviously you were sick already.

MMS can't hurt you.

More than 200,000 die from pharmaceutical drugs every year! Pharma Drugs are the #4 killer behind Heart Disease, Cancer, and Smoking.

The FDA is a corrupt organization that is in bed with Big Pharma.

[4everyong2]

MMS seems to have stopped my herpes symtoms, maybe my herpes is gone completly there is no way to tell, but I feel a lot better. Also MMS has sopped my gums from bleeding and I like how my teeth feel, I had HIGH Blood presure and now its a little lower, Pain in my hands. I'm feeling much better overall. The down side is, if I take more than 10 drops I'l be running to the bathroom, So now I only take 5 drops before bed in 4 oz of water and it works fine.

[THEHEALTHYglow]

I have suffered from Epstein Barr Virus for 20 years & YES my first two weeks on MMS I ended up getting the worst chest cold I had in years. This was a form of detox to my body. I had pneumonia many years prior & had the best removal of hardened junk come out of my lungs. I could literally taste the ephedrine HCI (an energy pill I abused yrs ago) in my mouth and smell it in my nasal passages as that came to the surface too. After my cold ended I felt like a million bucks w/no EBV symptoms!

[BentBuddha]

youtube wont' allow me to send the links from curezone.com (a great forum) If anyones interested you'll have to check it out yourself

[strawberrylaralara]

Love you Jim, now I know I'm on to a good thing because the FDA disapprove of it.

[BentBuddha]

MMS congested my liver a year ago. I battled chronic fatigue for 6 months and now i'm anorexic and have to live on raw foods because i can't digest food very well.

[phaelosopher]

@BentBuddha -- Poor bent. Your liver was shot way before you took MMS. You are describing results that are impossible with MMS, but are VERY possible with drugs. If you knew what you were talking about, or were honest, you'd be healthier, instead of pleading yourself as a victim. If you WANT to get better, you can. You act like living on raw foods is punishment. Yet, if you did live on raw foods, you'd not be anorexic, nor the victim you seem proud to proclaim.

[BentBuddha]

@phaelosopher actually i dont' take drugs of any kind, and i've never been a drinker.

If YOU knew what YOU were talking about ;). MMS sends a massive load of toxins etc to your liver, where it clogs it up. Way more than it was designed to handle. Clogged liver and bile ducts has madeit very difficult for me to digest fats and get good blood into the cells of my body and the nutrition from my raw food into the cells. I hav made progress with raw food/wheat grass but fatigue and brain fog is hell

[phaelosopher]

@BentBuddha -- MMS can't send a "massive" load of toxins to a liver if they weren't ALREADY there. Who is responsible for that? You body can't be healthy a MASSIVE LOAD OF TOXINS in it. So if they come out, you've got a shot at health. Liver dysfunction can be resolved too. But not if you're claiming you're now "damaged". You can stick to that story, but the only person YOU are harming, is YOU.

[BentBuddha]

@phaelosopher i said my liver was congested - not damaged. And, it's the livers job to process toxins, which is what mms does - it sends them there. It's been a monumental inconvienience. I missed my daughters second bday because i was non functional. Am i a victim? I don't think so. I should of done my home work instead of buying into the hype. I learnt a valuable lesson. None of your words are going to change my experience.

[strawberrylaralara]

@phaelosopher Agreed.

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha The byproducts of MMS are salt and water.

MMS does not "congest" your liver.

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican oh really? That's interesting because I have spoken to other ppl on curezone.com who complained about the same developing the same problems I have. MMS caused me to miss 6months of my life, and now i'm barely back into the game. Fatigued, skinny, and my mind is no where near as sharp as it was. My recovery is a VERY long process, and i only took MMS for 10days, increasing the drops daily.

You guys want to take this stuff, well good luck to you. I'm just sharing my experience

[strawberrylaralara]

@BentBuddha Maybe you have celiac's disease, look into it.

[BentBuddha]

@strawberrylaralara i have been tested for all sorts of things, that is 1.

I'm telling you all, immediately after taking MMS i started gettin fatigue, on day 10 it wiped me out. Make all the excused for mms you want, stick ur head in the sand, but ppl ARE having negative effects from it. I'm sharing my experience so ppl can make an informed choice, and not just think this is a safe "miracle" remedy. It may kill malaria, but i can tell u from experience it congests your liver then life sux

[phaelosopher]

@BentBuddha -- people who are FULL OF TOXINS will often have an unpleasant experience while they are getting toxins out. However they feel GREAT when they persevere. You didn't. So you're now making yourself into a victim. As long as you're comfortable with that self-description, it's yours. But it wasn't "caused" by MMS. You chose to take it. You chose to load yourself with toxicity, and YOU chose to QUIT. Yet you CAN regain your health when you shed the victim role.

[BentBuddha]

@phaelosopher persevere? You're kidding right? If it's so safe then why did it kill Silvie Fink?

I love how jim goes on to make out that her husband shouldn't of blamed mms without doing research into it and realising mms is good LOL. Sounds like ur words

The fact is, his wife was alive and well, she researched mms for several weeks - believing the hype, she took it, she died.

[emerge555]

@phaelosopher This is what you people do...base all your "evidence" that MMS works on testimonials, but then you censor out the negative ones and pretend that the person is to blame. What utter hypocrisy. Also, mind telling me what "toxins" your body is flushing? Specifically, what is a toxin? How does MMS know to target these supposed "toxins"? And why, please explain with some actual physiology, does the process of getting rid of "toxins" make you feel sick?

[stavs16]

@emerge555 u really need to watch jim humbles video explaining MMS, its chemical property, and how it targets pathogens in your body without harming your tissues, cells and good bacteria. The video is an hour and twenty minutes long so be prepared to take in a ton of information. You might just learn a thing or too.... just type in "MMS De-Mystified" into google

[mull79204]

@emerge555 sounds like you need to go to medical school rather than troll youtube.

[emerge555]

@mull79204 What a hilariously ironic comment. I AM in medical school...one of the top ten in the world, in fact. Go ahead, go to my channel and watch the movies of me performing in the U. of Michigan medical school music show that we put on every year. Honestly, it would be near impossible to look like more of an idiot than you already do. Thanks for the laugh, and make sure to keep drinking bleach. It seems to be doing a lot of good to those few brain cells that you haven't killed off yet.

[mull79204]

@emerge555 Shame they can't teach you common sence or at least a small degree of critical thinking. I don't know you or your claims. I dissagree, I believe your comments showed your true colours.

Assumption555 would be a better troll name for you.

So you are saying that yours is the only opinion that matters or that I have a choice myself to choose as I see fit?

[halleyscomet]

@phaelosopher "people who are FULL OF TOXINS will often have an unpleasant experience"

Is is mark of genius by Jim humble and his MMS marketing that he describes one of the symptoms of chlorine dioxide poisoning as "evidence" that his quackery is "working."

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet The studies on the effects of chlorine dioxide on the body I have read state nothing of the such. Provide evidence or anything more than you have if you believe there is a real health risk from CLO2. Though do take into account the protocol which never seems to be quoted by opponents. No one nneds to provide any evidence to you, that is simply your tactic to try and rubbish something you don't condone. You should try being more helpful it would tame down your superiority complex.

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 "Though do take into account the protocol which never seems to be quoted by opponents"

That's a cute weasel phrase. The "protocol" is nothing more than ingestion at a specific concentration. I'm rather shocked you're advocating a treatment based on the marketing claims of the distributors.

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet "The protocol is nothing more than ingestion at a specific concentration" And by your logic the law is just a set of someone elses rules or whatever.

Yes amazing you've shown that a word, like many have meanings. Here's another meaning for protocol - The plan for a course of medical treatment or for a scientific experiment.

If you get a chance when you've stopped ducking would you get round to answering my question/s please.

many thanks

[fkoff99]

@phaelosopher Not only that. Who know how much he took, and the condition of his liver. If he had cirrhosis or any other inflammatory or degenerative condition, the action of MMS on the damaged hepatocytes could've trigger the hepatic congestion.

[JA238979]

@phaelosopher BentBuddha loaded himself with toxicity, all right -- it's called bleach (MMS brand). The pushers of MMS brand bleach tricked him by saying that it's safe, and his liver was injured as a result. The FDA exists to protect people from dangerous cure-alls like MMS, so the first priority of a scam artist is to discredit regulatory entities like the FDA. Where are the placebo-controlled clinical trials demonstrating the effectiveness and safety of MMS bleach? All you have is stories.

[4everyong2]

@BentBuddha I'm so sorry you had problems with mms, we should all be cousious when taking things what ever the sorce. As far as the liver you might try CHLOROPHYLL about a table spoon in an 8 oz class of clean water. It's sold in any health food store. I'm not sure how or what it does but the result for me is clear skin. Best wishes.

[BentBuddha]

@4everyong2 Thanks. I have made progress with green juices and wheatgrass - which of course contain chlorophyll known to cleanse the liver, blood and lots of other benefits. I wasn't aware you could buy pure chlorophyll in powder form. If it gives you clear skin, it's a guarantee it's helping your liver. After my bout with chronic fatigue i did a huge amount of research on the liver, as i knew nothing about it before mms.

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

Have you ever heard of a Herxheimer Reacion?

You need to educate yourself.

Herx reactions occur when you kill too many viruses all at once. It will make your very sick.

You need to educate yourself.

[mull79204]

@BentBuddha how long did you take CLO2 for and to which protocol?

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

Why did you try MMS? Because you were sick already.

Why were you on CureZone in the first place? Obviously you were sick already.

MMS can't hurt you.

More than 200,000 die from pharmaceutical drugs every year! Pharma Drugs are the #4 killer behind Heart Disease, Cancer, and Smoking.

The FDA is a corrupt organization that is in bed with Big Pharma.

w w w. thenhf. com/fda/fda_164/fda_164. htm

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican actually i discovered curezone.com because of the damage mms did to my health. It was the good folk there that explained to me that mms congested my liver. Ppl really need to read my posts before commenting and assuming they know my experience. And plz don't preach to me about Pharma and the FDA. I'm not an idiot. Thanks

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

MMS kills toxins that your liver then needs to get rid. You just needed to slow down on the MMS. That then would allow your body to get rid of the toxins before proceeding.

Have you ever heard of a HERXHEIMER REACTION?

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican The symptoms of Herx are fever, chills, headache, muscle pain and exacerbation of skin lesions. None of the symptoms i have described after taking mms are anything like that of Herx - so plz listen. Daily my vagueness (brain fog) and fatigue grew, and at the time i didn't make the connection 2 mms until one day i felt vague and decided to 'wipe it out' with increased mms and I pretty much passed out within half hr. Life has been a battle since (almost 12mths) with slow progress.

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

You were sick BEFORE you tried MMS. That's why you were looking for something to help you.

MMS can make you feel worse before you get better. Especially if you are full of toxins, viruses, fungus, or bacteria.

I had the same symptoms as you describe BEFORE I heard about MMS. MMS made me feel worse, but after 2 weeks I felt BETTER.

The sicker you are the worse your symptoms will be.

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican it is clear to me you are an idiot. Plz refrain from commenting on my posts. Thank you

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

It is clear to me you are an uninformed and whiney person, who prefers to be a victim. Please refrain from making anymore asinine posts. Thank you.

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican Dude you assume you're an expert on everything and on other ppls conditions when you don't even have the capacity to pay attention to what ppl write. Your insisting that i look into Herx when it fits none of the symptoms i mentioned + making rediculous statements like mms can't hurt you when it's even killed one woman, only confirms to me you're an complete idiot. You have no intelligence and no insight so you have nothing of value to contribute. Thanks

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

Herx reactions VARY WIDELY, depending on many factors, including the general health of the individual, the condition being treated, and the degree of toxicity that exists in the body. If a person kills too many toxins too quickly it can overwhelm your liver, but NOT MMS itself. You were sick BEFORE you even tried MMS. Idiots like you are the ones who make life saving supplements, like MMS, a target of the FDA. Not 1 person has been killed by MMS.

[BentBuddha]

@angryamerican firstly you're assuming i was sick, i never said that. Again you don't pay attention to what ppl write and assume the role of an expert. I was interested in it's detox claims to tweak my health. Secondly, mms killed silvia fink. Explain to her husband that it's never killed anyone genius. 3 ppl were hospitalised just in my state NSW last year because of mms. Idiots like you who believe in fairy tales and miracles are the ones who spread tripe which lead to ppl being harmed.

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

MMS is not a "fairy tale". I personally used it myself and it helped me.

I read about Silvia Fink and they still haven't released any proof that MMS is what killed her. They did state that Silvia was using prescription medications, so she could have had some kind of adverse reaction with her medications.

You wanted to "tweak" your health? LOL!

[Simunye1969]

@angryamerian

Anything taken or consumed too much or not according to instruction can be harmfull, including medication from your doctor. Who is to say that it was MMS that killed her and not a wrong dosage or her medication?

I'm using it for a year and it has rid me of my asma in 2 days. A zist between my shoulderblades that needed to be removed disappeared after I startet using MMS. Every time I feel a cold coming I use it and I did not have a cold for the last year. No fairy tale!

[angryamerican]

@Simunye1969

I completely agree.

I was laughing at "BentBuddha", because they were saying MMS "made them sick" and they were perfectly healthy before using MMS. I asked if they were "perfectly healthy" why were they using MMS and they said to "tweak their health". I think "BentBuddha" is full of it.

[Simunye1969]

@angryamerican

Jim tells everybody BEFORE using MMS that they may get sick if they use too much, and to reduce the dosage if they get sick. I only was sich ones after using 10 drops, but up to 8 drops give me no problem. So what is the fuss all about? Obviously people who have problems with MMS have used to much at a time.

I salso find that some people dont seem to be able to discuss matter without becoming abusive or rude...what a shame...God bless

[mull79204]

@BentBuddha ok genius, how many people where hospitised due to taking pescribed medicines in your state in the same period? Its idiots who need banning from life, like the idiot who helped accomplsh the banning of iodine WoW salt and water to follow. You'd come across better if you took your head out of your arse. And while your there grab a copy of the autopsy report of Mrs Fink to back up at least one of your many verbal farts.

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 "how many people where hospitised due to taking pescribed medicines in your state in the same period? I"

Flaws in evidence based medicine do not constitute evidence of efficacy or evidence of safety for MMS.

[mull79204]

@halleyscomet That would depend on what the evidence. And nor does that make CLO2 a placebo or unsafe.

Has the death certificate turned up yet or is BenBuddha going to issue a retraction on his claim?

[halleyscomet]

@mull79204 So far there's NO verifiable evidence to support MMS, just unverified claims and anecdotes, most of which are coming from the people who sell it.

[vseae15o]

@halleyscomet

I would like to know more about how MMS may not work for you. As per your "NO verifiable evidience to support MMS, just unverified claims and anecdotes", who would you wait for the verified information besides from the people who have been sick, used this stuff and has gotten better?

It's only an honest question. A good place for you to start would be to go as far as looking for the FDA studies and experimental procedures in falsifying MMS. Thanks --Still waiting

[phaelosopher]

@BentBuddha -- People who truly want to be well aren't content being victims bent. And if they took responsibility to know what to do and how MMS worked, they'd also know that it doesnt "cause" anorexia. The only person you're "fooling," is no one. If you want to get better, take responsibility for your problems and FIX them. If MMS didn't work for you, find out what does. You can't heal yourself if you're blaming someone or something else. I suspect that being healthy isn't really your goal.

[BentBuddha]

@phaelosopher if being healthy isn't my goal, then why would i have taken mms and then gone onto raw foods and daily wheat grass? Dance around with words all you like, the fact remains the moment i took MMS, my health went south big time. My liver congested and that set off other conditions. Defend it all you like, I'm not the only person who's taken mms and regreted it. There are many. Check out the forum curezone.com. It's no miracle

[angryamerican]

@BentBuddha

You are more interested in being a "victim".

[swimmingmantis22]

@phaelosopher beautiful

[JA238979]

@phaelosopher The definition of victim is one that is injured, tricked, or duped. MMS tricked this individual by saying that MMS-brand bleach is safe, and his liver was injured as a result. Jim Humble should be extradited to the United Stated to face justice. I will not dignify your disgusting comment with further response.

[jonnoshore]

@BentBuddha

I suggest you do a liver cleanse / flush. Google "flushing the toxic stones from within the liver" and you will get a thread about cleansing the liver. It will also restore your gut health and allow you body to get back into balance. I've done MMS up to 15 drops and vomitted once and had runs but that was once and I'm fine now. Your gut health and liver function can be sorted out Andreas Moritz / Dr David Jubb / Dr Steve Hines will all allow you to investigate gut health.

[BentBuddha]

@jonnoshore have done the liver cleanses - many times. I think they're bogus. Ppl are doing them 50+ times and still getting "stones"? the olive oil coagulating with bile and passing through the bile ducts is like a broom sweeping a chimney. It does give you amazing energy for a day or so, but it doesn't clean out the liver, just the duct temporarily and gives you new bile. Countless ppl have reported that in a few days they felt exactly the same.

[jonnoshore]

@BentBuddha I don't think they are bogus, as I've done 11 and of the 4th one many rubbery parasites came out, all documented at the thread I posted above. Sorry but the liver may start to fill again with softer bile but the very hard dark green compacted bile stones are best out than in AND these are not produced overnight with the oil or salts. Quackwatch sites may steer you away from the truth. Another thing to improve the liver and health of the body is to do Urine Therapy.

[jonnoshore]

@BentBuddha

I suggest you do a liver cleanse / flush. Google "flushing the toxic stones from within the liver" and you will get a thread about cleansing the liver. It will also restore your gut health and allow you body to get back into balance. I've done MMS up to 15 drops and vomitted once and had runs but that was once and I'm fine now. Your gut health and liver function can be sorted out Andreas Moritz / Dr David Jubb / Dr Steve Hines will all allow you to investigate gut health.

[theshmed]

@BentBuddha ---actually eating raw foods is harder for your body to digest, especially fibrous plants, nutricionally speaking. thats how mankind has evolved. i dont want to rain on your parade but mentally you have to fight things as well as phyically. if you believe you can't do it , your already fighting a lost battle. when someone like jim humble does this for people i would have more faith in him that in organizations like the fda. deaths due to mms verses precribed fda drugs no contest !!!

[mull79204]

@BentBuddha When I was little I saw a pig fly and now am afraid of bacon sandwichs and must live on raw food and macdonalds.

[fkoff99]

@BentBuddha What was the status of your liver before ingesting MMS? Did you have hepatitis or any chronic or acute condition?