I think it's always important to state the source. It helps further deeper research. I did not know that Richard created the Starship design, or it's variants until I watched this. Maybe everyone should always add a source to their description as a default for all vids. I think credit is important. Look what happened to Tesla's work. It's hard to trace.
You have given due credit when called on it, that's admirable, everything is built on the work of others, their concepts their ideas, their influences, to lie to ourselves is a greater crime than to steal acknowledgement. I think Jorge's Compressed Rodin Starcoil, is a very fair and aptly descriptive title. You're all doing such fine work refining a great idea, don't get bogged down, or hate others that make improvements, be happy for your fellow humans.
Marko Rodin sponcered Jorges trip. Now i can fully see why there is an issue . You are right .There was no rodin coil in the demonstration.Like you said. Only one of your starships used rodin maths , even then it doesn't make it a rodin coil. Hope you get things resolved.
@hhoforvolts Appreciate your instructive videos and plan to further study your work but don’t understand title of this video. You’ve stated acceptance of “Rodin Starship Coil” and your previous comments and videos accept the Starship design as variant of Rodin. That’s how it’s stated on title of the PESN video. Before pursuing further with PESN you may want to get with Jorge, the subject of the video, at the end of the video his business card headlines “Rodin Coils for Energy Applications”.
hi Richard, ok i agreed with you...! many of the commentaries is not mine, i don`t know how marco`s group work, i only had my presentation and all people like my LEVITATION MOTOR AND MULLER MOTOR, AND THE COMPRESSED STARSHIP COIL.
I APRECIATE THAT YOU CAN HELP.
I RETURN TODAY TO MY HOME I WILL SEND PHOTOS OF THE CONFERENCE.
@ReasonForemost EDITED:What you don't know is Marko Roin sponcered his trip to Tesla Expo and provided the title of the presentation. Jorge had nothing to say about it. Its a clear violation of ethics since no one Rodin coil is used in any of the displayed machines. I am not pursuing anything with PSEN, they were duped and made claims that were incorrect about the coils, it's that simple.
Do you want people to continue using these coils or simply create different coils that do the same thing? Getting people to implement the design should be more of a concern than the name. You have shared a lot of important info, but I think this video just adds to the drama of society rather than reflect the nature of the geometry used here. This will put people off to something beautiful that you created. Blessings and love.
@DanielNunezMind I want people to take my basic design and modify for many uses. I now have 5 versions of the basic design. The video was to set the record straight of what coil type was used. If you use the Rodin winding pattern, it will not work.
If rodin maths was incorporated in the design . It should be stated but primarily the starship was your idea and everyone should be made aware of that.
@Magankan The type 1 Starship coil used is a 12 point skip 5 that was used by a fellow in England when he made his first Rodin coil. Beyond that, the coils have nothing in common except they both use wire.
Yes Richard you are right, credit should be given to the inventor for variations made on there devices or improvements. The Starship coil may have never been if it wasn't for Marco Rodin.
And the compressed Starship, collapsed Starship, are further improvements. Thanx for makeing the Starship coil.
@llewgnal Your statement is 100% correct. If there was no Marko Rodin there would be no Starship coil. I would not have a problem if my Starship coils were called "Rodin Starship Coils", after all that is what I called them in the early days. The "Compressed Starship" coils in the video are Jorge's design and it's true that you have designed your own "Compressed Starship Coil" as well as I have my take take on the design.
I think it's always important to state the source. It helps further deeper research. I did not know that Richard created the Starship design, or it's variants until I watched this. Maybe everyone should always add a source to their description as a default for all vids. I think credit is important. Look what happened to Tesla's work. It's hard to trace.
pdmwebsolutions 5 months ago
You have given due credit when called on it, that's admirable, everything is built on the work of others, their concepts their ideas, their influences, to lie to ourselves is a greater crime than to steal acknowledgement. I think Jorge's Compressed Rodin Starcoil, is a very fair and aptly descriptive title. You're all doing such fine work refining a great idea, don't get bogged down, or hate others that make improvements, be happy for your fellow humans.
foresakenlion 6 months ago
Marko Rodin sponcered Jorges trip. Now i can fully see why there is an issue . You are right .There was no rodin coil in the demonstration.Like you said. Only one of your starships used rodin maths , even then it doesn't make it a rodin coil. Hope you get things resolved.
Best regards
Justin
Magankan 6 months ago
@hhoforvolts Appreciate your instructive videos and plan to further study your work but don’t understand title of this video. You’ve stated acceptance of “Rodin Starship Coil” and your previous comments and videos accept the Starship design as variant of Rodin. That’s how it’s stated on title of the PESN video. Before pursuing further with PESN you may want to get with Jorge, the subject of the video, at the end of the video his business card headlines “Rodin Coils for Energy Applications”.
ReasonForemost 6 months ago
From: jorge rebolledo contreras
To: richard motzer
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: Wrong statments made on two videos
hi Richard, ok i agreed with you...! many of the commentaries is not mine, i don`t know how marco`s group work, i only had my presentation and all people like my LEVITATION MOTOR AND MULLER MOTOR, AND THE COMPRESSED STARSHIP COIL.
I APRECIATE THAT YOU CAN HELP.
I RETURN TODAY TO MY HOME I WILL SEND PHOTOS OF THE CONFERENCE.
SALUDOS
JORGE
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
@ReasonForemost EDITED:What you don't know is Marko Roin sponcered his trip to Tesla Expo and provided the title of the presentation. Jorge had nothing to say about it. Its a clear violation of ethics since no one Rodin coil is used in any of the displayed machines. I am not pursuing anything with PSEN, they were duped and made claims that were incorrect about the coils, it's that simple.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
Do you want people to continue using these coils or simply create different coils that do the same thing? Getting people to implement the design should be more of a concern than the name. You have shared a lot of important info, but I think this video just adds to the drama of society rather than reflect the nature of the geometry used here. This will put people off to something beautiful that you created. Blessings and love.
DanielNunezMind 6 months ago
@DanielNunezMind I want people to take my basic design and modify for many uses. I now have 5 versions of the basic design. The video was to set the record straight of what coil type was used. If you use the Rodin winding pattern, it will not work.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
If rodin maths was incorporated in the design . It should be stated but primarily the starship was your idea and everyone should be made aware of that.
Best regards Justin
Magankan 6 months ago
@Magankan The type 1 Starship coil used is a 12 point skip 5 that was used by a fellow in England when he made his first Rodin coil. Beyond that, the coils have nothing in common except they both use wire.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
Yes Richard you are right, credit should be given to the inventor for variations made on there devices or improvements. The Starship coil may have never been if it wasn't for Marco Rodin.
And the compressed Starship, collapsed Starship, are further improvements. Thanx for makeing the Starship coil.
Gary
llewgnal 6 months ago
@llewgnal Your statement is 100% correct. If there was no Marko Rodin there would be no Starship coil. I would not have a problem if my Starship coils were called "Rodin Starship Coils", after all that is what I called them in the early days. The "Compressed Starship" coils in the video are Jorge's design and it's true that you have designed your own "Compressed Starship Coil" as well as I have my take take on the design.
Richard
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
We know your da man! :) that is all that maters! If they look it up they will see who maid it! :)
Keep it up! ~Russ
rwg42985 6 months ago
@rwg42985 Thanks Russ very much.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
Rock on. You and I both know that you invented the Starship coil and some of the variations of it, like the SuperStarShip.
So, I'll send sterling a note and see if they will correct the mistake.
mikepowers420 6 months ago
@mikepowers420 Thanks very much for your efforts.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago