Jean-Luc Picard insulted by Data

[shiz777]

Deanna was always so hot!

[krips22]

@ bovine: "there is no french word for victory"

Of course there is one. It's where your own word (victory) comes from (from "victoire", that is), like so many words of your vocabulary.

You could even say that the emblematic Richard Lionheart, who could only speak French, like the English kings of this time (French was still the language of the English court at this time) certainly used it.

[MrRagingbovine]

there is no french word for victory

[mj4ever1332]

@Wolfren1000 I competly agree.

[Carbine124]

The French language represents civilization? I thought it was the language for wanting to surrender.

[redundantstudios]

@Carbine124 It's the language of forgetting about the French Resistance.

[TheSmithersy]

@Carbine124: I think he meant to say "A civilisation" because everyone knows that since the rise of the British Empire, English is the language that represents civilisation.

[StarWarsObsession42]

Oh Data xD

[NonstopRam]

So English is not obscure lol

[cosplaybandgeek]

@NonstopRam

I always kind of assumed they were speaking common. "Common" is whatever language the viewer speaks, so this would work even if this episode were dubbed in French.

It comes from D&D and it's really the only way to make sense of it.

[NonstopRam]

@cosplaybandgeek I forgot that they use uiversal translaters. So it dies not matter what someone speaks lol

[darkjediMIK]

@cosplaybandgeek Nah, that's Star Wars with their "Basic"

[Rainshadow9000]

I love how Beverly has this smirk on her face and is holding back from laughing. Too bad they didn't keep that part of her personality in the rest of the series, because if you haven't noticed, in most of the first season you can see how at most things she will smirk at or hold back a laugh and in the rest of the series you would be lucky to see her smirk about stuff a little more than 5 times.

[Wolfren1000]

I like it here. The comments on startrek videos are so much more intelligent than those on most of youtube.

[existenceisrelative]

@Wolfren1000 u taik tht bak! we beez smurt oin rest uv yutub.

[therealGLAD]

@Wolfren1000 it's a more intelligent demographic, less of that "360 no scope -snort-"

[kayleegirl1967]

Lol so innocent yet so guilty!

[smitto21]

lol i loved data in the early tng lol that was when he was more innocent seeming then later on lol

[MarioMetroidFan]

0:30 Picards stare of death!

[davenielsen78]

@viperZIRO What exactly *could* you do? Maybe a witty retort, that's about it.

[davenielsen78]

@viperZIRO Yeah, because a whole lot of nothing would happen.

[tml4873]

It is highly unlikely that French, or any of the other major languages would be extinct in just a couple centuries. Even if somehow it was, it's completely false for Data to refer to it as "obscure". A cursory knowledge of history, which he should have, would prove that wrong.

[PokerJoker811]

@tml4873 Let us recognize, however, that all warp-level civilizations have certain common characteristics. One of these is a world government, and one can assume from what has been seen in the adventures of the various Enterprises that another is a single unified planetary language. On Earth, the apparent language of this kind is English. Considering how many planets there are, and how many diverse languages Data would learn over the course of his travels and training, French would seem obscure.

[MrWooaa]

@PokerJoker811 that what my thoughts were.

[davenielsen78]

@tml4873 He probably knew, he just wanted to fuck with Picard. Maybe he got confused because Picard speaks with a British accent.

[shafta99]

find it interesting people are mentioning america. you know the english spoken by george washington is vastly different than what we speak now. and in a few hundred years it will be vastly different as well. i don't know if that happens to french or other languages as well. language is a constantly evolving and changing thing not a constant. but that was funny lol.

[ramette99]

I wonder how the French dubbed this for French TV? Maybe they switched it from French being obscure to English being obscure.

[aluisious]

How intelligent is data if he can't figure out talking shit about French is a dumb idea to a superior named Jean-Luc Picard?

[mephatboi]

@aluisious yeah he should know not only from his inexhaustible knowledge of history but also from his daily interactions with this peculiarly prideful flesh beings that certain facts are controversial to some people (assuming data's assessment that by the 24th century french has become "obscure" is true/factual)

[DerEchteSenf]

@aluisious Having him to LEAN everything social is an important part of the show.

[AnteyPL]

@aluisious

Well...he's... intelligent, but very...logical and down-to-earh... :D

[engaine]

@aluisious data is autistic, you fool

[A16AdamWalker]

@aluisious Because the only explanation of picard is that England invade and took over France... and then some inter-mingling happened. Come one what French men is that Shakesperean?

[Sektion9]

Merde !

[Danielboulder1]

YES picard is from france! had you studied and watched the show youd known that moron! that why Q sys bon capitan and mochs him and why picard always goes back to france in the show or hollideck or shore leave or talks about it you nincompoops!!!!!

[platemaker]

@Danielboulder1 calm down there..killer

[TheInuyanma]

England is better.

[TheSmithersy]

@TheInuyanma: Exactly. Why does Picard have a British accent if hes supposed to be French? Maybe The UK took over France in WW3?

[retsilagnilooc]

@TheSmithersy Thats exactly what happened - between now and the time of Picard, The British Empire rises once more, and totally pwns France.

[davenielsen78]

@retsilagnilooc Or the whole world, tired of unjusified French snootiness, ships them all off to some other planet. Leaving only the Picard family, of course.

[retsilagnilooc]

@davenielsen78 I think you'll find they actually tried to remove the Picards as well, but no one messes with Jean-Luc.

[davenielsen78]

@retsilagnilooc Yes, I remember they killed them in one of the movies. Hard to believe people in the 24th century still die in fires. And tornados.

[retsilagnilooc]

@davenielsen78 yes, it was Kirks final movie - the one where Picard's dream life is to be a father in some Dickensian type world.

[TheInuyanma]

@TheSmithersy

Patrick Stewart himself is an English man so that's why he sounds English. Though I believe he did a good job of acting as Picard. There are times when he really hits that French sound.

[colliebarbu]

@TheSmithersy no no no in ww3 France will take over UK and Canada. beleive me

[TheSmithersy]

@colliebarbu: I wasn't saying that just to be provocative, I was saying that because Picard is supposed to be French but has a British accent so the idea of the British Empire taking over France would make sense for that.

[whistlerboots123]

I love Troy's face here.

[DRUMSKAPE]

civilized , but back asswards.

[ryno123321]

the british frenchman

[Watcher3223]

@ryno123321

Or, an exceptionally educated Frenchman who speaks very fluent English in a proper British manner.

[ryno123321]

@Watcher3223 well you know what... riker had no beard so HA!

[Watcher3223]

@ryno123321

Riker looks good with or without the beard. I think you should have tried to strike a little lower, such as insulting his cooking or his ability to play the trombone, particularly "Night Bird."

[ryno123321]

@Watcher3223 touché salesman.

[Watcher3223]

@ryno123321

Speaking of salesmen. "The early bird who hesitates gets wormed."

[jmm1233]

and them two still end up being best buddies 

[WhiteShadow2k1]

May I quote a wise man: "It is wrong to be French!"

[Pruechelan]

Je pense que ça c'est drole français est absuloument obscurs!

[oneperson2person]

I don't think he was 'insulted' so much as 'offended'. Data didn't say anything against Pickard he just dissed his nationality.

[DrMadolite]

I thought French was already a dead language :P

[Jibraltar31]

som1 have understand what is the french word he said? because i'm french and i have not understood what is the french word he said

[yeoungbraxx]

@Jibraltar31 he said "counting coup"

[ls3inchem]

Picard is the most British Frenchmen I have ever seen.

[A16AdamWalker]

Deanna was hot in season 1 (cept the first episode)

[GringoHunter]

Picard got hes CINCO DE MAYO! DATA STYLE....LOL

[pesmerga1983]

Unfortunately so far it only translates into an incomprehensible dead language.

[Xerxes2005]

Fortunately, French as a dead language has been retconned in further episodes.

[trlkly]

@Xerxes2005 He just said it was obscure, not dead. I think he was thinking in a universal context. The only people we encounter who actually speak French seem to be on Earth. Even Picard, who is good enough to be captain of the flagship, has to speak English. (And we know he is actually speaking English, as the universal translator always uses American English.)

Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if all Earth languages other than English would be considered obscure by Data.

[terminat1]

@trlkly Picard could be speaking French and yet the universal translator is converting his words into English.

[MasterDragonNinja]

@viperZIRO Especially if they are Quebecois.

[viridismonasteriense]

crazy gibberish!

[DarthMessias]

This is from before Riker became a real man!

[DarthRushy]

Data:...the "obscure" language known as French...

Several years later

Picard:Mr. Data.

Data:Yes, sir?

Picard:Shut up.

[GwenhwyfarArt]

You'd think English is the most obscure language because of its habit of borrowing from other languages without changing the spelling or sound. Honestly, you can't go a day writing something in English without using the dictionary or spell check.

[worldofdraculas]

@GwenhwyfarArt I didn't have to use a dictionary to know that you don't seem to know what obscure means.

[GwenhwyfarArt]

@worldofdraculas 1. A. Dark, dim. B. Shrouded or hidden in darkness. C. Not readily seen or clearly expressed. 2. Not readily understood or clearly expressed; also: mysterious. Synonyms: ambiguous, vague, equivocal. Antonym: Clear, obvious, plain. I meant its use in the definition of not readily understood and most opposite of clear (in definition of easily understood). The dictionary is often used for spell checking, not just definitions, which is why I mentioned it. To be cont.

[GwenhwyfarArt]

@worldofdraculas By its definition of not readily understood or clearly expressed, I was trying to say that the English language's spelling structure is complex and makes it not easy to follow in the sense of sounding a word and spelling it as there are several different ways to spell out one sound (the "oo" in sue and boo). Definition is another matter and I was not commenting on it. This is just my experience from studying languages. To be cont.

[GwenhwyfarArt]

@worldofdraculas In Japanese, I found that it's spelling structure is rather straight forward as you can simply sound it out and spell it in hiragana. There's only a small chance the spelling rule would change for a certain word, so it's hard to misspell. An Arabic friend told me how simple it is to spell in Arabic as the writing structure depends on the sounds (so the spelling could change based on accents from what he was implying). I don't know, but I'll take his word. To be cont.

[GwenhwyfarArt]

@worldofdraculas Anyways, I'm writing longer than I intended, sorry about that, but that's what I meant by obscure and on the English language. I admit that I might have made a mistake in the use of the word, obscure, but you should know what I meant by it now. It's a mistake just as people tend to misuse irony but understand its definition. >_>; I take no pride in the complexity of the English spelling structure nor am insulting it, though I do think it's kinda funny.

[DKzgd]

@GwenhwyfarArt there's this myth that English is the simplest language on Earth, but in actuality; it really isnt. And you've touched one of its biggest flaws: overly complicated spelling...

For instance, in my language -Croatian- you have phonemic orthography, which means that every letter corresponds to certain sound. So in order to be literate, all you have to do is learn the alphabet of 30 letters. On other hand, I've been using English for a decade now and spell check is still a must...

[Watcher3223]

@DKzgd "And you've touched one of its biggest flaws: overly complicated spelling..."

Not just spelling. Also pronunciation.

How "comb" is pronounced could easily confuse non-English speakers over the pronunciation of the word "tomb" and vice-versa.

A big part of the complexity of English comes from the vocabulary adopting many words from different languages. For example, "rendezvous."

The thing that may be consistent in the English language is syntax (though that can be tricky, too).

[TheRealityJack]

lol why is data calling it obscure, i mean how does he judge it? did his creator program him to find the french language obscure? it isn't more obscure than any language if you don't speak it lol. i guess german is obscure for others too. i find any asian language "obscure" because it seems like they're talking really really fast, when they are in reality, talking very slowly

[tritonus411]

@TheRealityJack I think he probably calls it obscure because barely anyone in that time period speaks it. That or Data got his only F in his French classes, that'd make me call it obscure. lol

[jimbopumbapigsticks]

@TheRealityJack

In the 24th century French is no longer spoken, like Latin and Ancient Greek aren't spoken today.

[Westmensch3]

this is on tv right now

[fickah221]

What does the sync in France say???;D

[vtran31]

he's just angry that Commander Data happens to be right

[ludovert]

esperanto FTW

[xbox644]

I don't understand why Picard gets so upset, french is more obscure than ancient klingon.

[stembuk]

@xbox644, because he is French?

[linkingisnonsense]

@stembuk He plays a Frenchman like I play a Jesuit Priest. Badly.

[funrizwan]

@stembuk yes

[jedikenneth]

@stembuk The character is French but the actor is English.

[6895Anna]

@stembuk though he's played by a scottsman, and in the future france looks a lot like southern california.

[Malachayas]

@6895Anna Well, the Provence definitely has some similarities.

[TheAtheistFuture]

@6895Anna Patrick Stewart is not a Scotsman? The name Stewart is Scottish, and some of his family would have originated there, but Patrick Stewart is a Yorkshireman, and York is still well below the boarder to Scotland.

[6895Anna]

@TheAtheistFuture Thanks for totally getting my light-hearted joke.

[TheAtheistFuture]

@6895Anna oh right... i thought it was american ignorance, sorry

[6895Anna]

@TheAtheistFuture lol, fair enough

[LegendaryGamer0]

@stembuk And because he hides it poorly? :P

[davenielsen78]

@stembuk He is, but the show never revealed why he chose to speak in a British accent.

[LudovicoBerossus]

@davenielsen78 My theory is that the UT does exactly that, translates languages into something universally understood by all listeners. So Picard IS speaking French, and his French accent (from France itself) is equivalent to the British accent in the English-speaking world. Hence his accent :)

[HordrissTheConfuser]

@xbox644 Jean-Luc Picard is a French name. His family still live there, and own a vineyard. It's not too unrealistic to expect that up to maybe three languages would eventually dominate a world where global mass communication exists, but I suspect that the Captain would still have learned it, possibly even as his first language. He certainly demonstrates knowledge of French histiry and culture.

I'm just surprised that Data never made the connection, what with his analytical habit.

[TheOrionStar]

@HordrissTheConfuser its called a joke in a tv series

[HordrissTheConfuser]

@TheOrionStar I know, I know. Lately I've been rewatching a few programmes I used to watch, and I can't help but notice the mistakes now.

[andrew19vato]

@xbox644 what's french?

[whistlerboots123]

LOL



[RalphMarx]

@xbox644 just dont tell that to the FRENCH , XP

[EasternMerchant]

@xbox644 hehe I can see this! French is a language of a nation of many nations on the planet earth, while Klingon language is a language of an Entire Planet!