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I really wish that there were more baritones that did this role. I mean, I know that historically it was more the castrati that did these roles, but I feel like there should be that contrast in voice between Cleopatra and Caesar. I just think it would be weird if you were singing about about love and the man was singing in the same octave. Personal preference though. =P
I wonder, though, just how LOUD it must be for them when two opera singers, who're performing for a live audience, sing right into each other's faces?
lol.. the reason there are two women? simple. When Handel wrote this, Cleopatra's role was played by a female, and Cesar's by a Castrati. Since Castrati no longer exist, another woman fills the role in this production to maintain the range of the part. If it was sung by a tenor or bass, the octaves would get displaced and create different harmonies.
For example, with the singers in the same range, there is a possibility to get Major 2nds (nice dissonance) but change Cesar to tenor/bass, and that Major 2nd becomes a 9th instead (not as dissonant as a major 2nd since interval is larger)
@tenor185 Thanks, I wasnt too sure. It certainly is not an important matter .but its good to chat to another fan especially a knowledgeable one. Thanks again, f.
Some people haven't the foggiest about opera and the many liberties it takes beyond the usual theatrical ones. Forgive them for they know not what they speak of.
I don't even know why the poster who made the 'lesbian' comment did so - he/she seems to be interested in opera, based on the profile page...but thanks for rebutting a lot of the silliness posted about these great video clips here!
Well, the person who made the 'lesbian' comment is clearly besotted! Thank you for posting the clips. It is most interesting to read 'some' of the comments.
scena svilita: giulio cesare è un "pupazzo di cartapesta". Non c'è nessun coinvolgimento a vedere tubare due donne....E nulla di che la voce per di più...
Forse il signore si riferische ai "pupazzi di cartapesta" che va a vedere di solito sulla marionetta sotto casa e non all'opera. La voce e l'espressivita' della Connolly e unica e' proprio anche la sua capacita teatrale oltre a quella vocale(veda GRAMMY AWARDS 2008)che hanno fatto dell'opera un masterpiece.
ps.veder tubare due donne puo essere altrettando coinvolgente certo ma non all'opera!!
I just purchased the DVD of this performance. I enjoy every minute of it. Recently seen Giulio Cesare, conducted by Rene Jacobs, in Amsterdam. 4 hours of great music performed by great stars.
This is bliss! Their voices melt into eachother very well. Sarah Conolly is connvincing Cesare; s very handsome woman. De Niese is growing into her own.
Sorry but have you never heard of 'artistic interpretation' and imagination? Recasting stories in times and places outside of the original setting has been done, oh, at least thousands of times now. Shakespeare, Mozart, Haendel, etc. have all been presented in eras other than their own. The British empire ca. late 19th century serves as an excellent metaphor for the Roman empire here. Please inform yourself a bit more about these genres.
I don't think it does as Julius Caesar was set during the Roman Civil War, I just don't see how they could get that out of the british Empire. Furthermore, this is like my favorite opera and I just don't think it's cool when it's not Julius caesar, Cleapoatra and Romans running around.
The artistic impression I'm still waiting to see, is fully accurate representaion. Down to the chain mail on the Roman soldiers and the dirt under their fingernails, instead of silly muscle armor.
As a historian you should know that Handel's opera is a Baroque interpretation of a Roman story. The singers and stage in Handel's 1724 production were dressed in Baroque finery with with an allusion to Rome. David Mc Vicar's production merely attempts to draw parallels to the power games world leaders play, the winners and the victims,ergo the British Empire 'buying' Egypt. It is far more interesting to grasp the underlying drama than the literal one.
For the same reason that in another production the setting is at an outdoor swimming pool with 20th century bathing suits and beach towels, and GET THIS_ SUNGLASSES!, a current gun AND an Evian water bottle (I wonder if the firm paid for this advertizing). In another scene of the same production there's a woman (I believe the mother of Sesto) wearing a modern dress, and in yet another, there is a plastic gardenhose that Sesto is holding that could not have existed until recently. So, GO FIGURE.
At one time I also saw it your way. And as "Old fashioned" as you say you are, you ARE seeing Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, only they arrived in a time machine and saw the future (from Cleopatra's time) and decided to dress accordingly. They LIKE updated attire, sunglasses, modern guns, Evian water, and a rubber garden hose (if you saw the other Giulio Cesare videos you knw what I'm talking about) I used to think like you. I updated since. Now try to be openminded. It's more fun!
To each his own, but I'm a professional historian, which is what attracts me to baroque operas in the first place (well, the music too). I like to see it from the original point of view...I like the fact that I'm watching the same thing that, in this case, the George II, the Duke of Cumberland and Sir John Ligonier saw (which I know will never be exact..but whatever). I always find myself interpretting the opera in a historical sense, this kind of stuff just throws me for a loop : )
As a historian you should know that Handel's opera is a Baroque interpretation of a Roman story. The singers and stage in Handel's 1724 production were dressed in Baroque finery with with an allusion to Rome. David Mc Vicar's production merely attempts to draw parallels to the power games world leaders play, the winners and the victims,ergo the British Empire 'buying' Egypt. It is far more interesting to grasp the underlying drama than the literal one.
In addition, rapiddominace, the literal minded 'historian', I can't think of a single mezzo, much less a counter-tenor who would agree to the disgusting prospect of singing with dirty fingernails-YUK. Besides one's soiled pinkies not being visible to a single bod in the auditorium, it would look gross when signing autographs..
Now I'm really envious of you, as I am of anyone who's seen and heard Connolly sing Cesare here! By the way, how difficult - or easy - is it to get a seat to the Proms? (I live in the USA.)
Delightful! De Niese and Connolly perform masterfully.
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DawnTharpe 7 months ago
Caaaarow... bloody American accents...
BeautyMeansDeath 8 months ago
@BeautyMeansDeath I think that, as an italian, their accents are not perfect, but surely very accurate.
Erikk91 4 months ago
I really wish that there were more baritones that did this role. I mean, I know that historically it was more the castrati that did these roles, but I feel like there should be that contrast in voice between Cleopatra and Caesar. I just think it would be weird if you were singing about about love and the man was singing in the same octave. Personal preference though. =P
GoApples 9 months ago
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ThibaudMitter794 11 months ago
Danielle de Niese is of Sri Lankian heritage and born in Australia. She of course has a wonderful voice.
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
Does anybody have the lyrics?
rdfbhm 1 year ago
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@rdfbhm Duetto:Caro! Bella!Più amabile beltà mai non si troverà del tuo bel volto.In me non sveglierà ne amor ne fedeltà da te disciolto.
Duetto: Dear!Beatiful! A finer beauty than the one of your face can't be found.Anyone except you will raise in me neither love nor faith.
Erikk91 2 months ago
Nope, andreas scholl and inger dam-Jensen for ever
Guichotpresident 1 year ago
Terrificly entertaining and unusual adaptation. What a pity the wonderful choral finale wasn`t uploaded.
alanth252 1 year ago
Oh, this is adorable! And very nicely acted, too!
I wonder, though, just how LOUD it must be for them when two opera singers, who're performing for a live audience, sing right into each other's faces?
cadfalladr 1 year ago
thanks marian: i am in glyndebourne ! nora
noratranvouez 1 year ago
divine music. I prefer the performance with Susan Larson directed by Peter Sellars!
kkmzde 1 year ago
Daniele de Niese is excellent here. Brava!
madziua90 1 year ago 2
lol.. the reason there are two women? simple. When Handel wrote this, Cleopatra's role was played by a female, and Cesar's by a Castrati. Since Castrati no longer exist, another woman fills the role in this production to maintain the range of the part. If it was sung by a tenor or bass, the octaves would get displaced and create different harmonies.
Motetftw 1 year ago
@Motetftw
For example, with the singers in the same range, there is a possibility to get Major 2nds (nice dissonance) but change Cesar to tenor/bass, and that Major 2nd becomes a 9th instead (not as dissonant as a major 2nd since interval is larger)
Motetftw 1 year ago
Yes this surely cant be bettered. Connolly is such a wonderful technician. Incidentally I think de Niese is an Australian, born in Melbourne I think.
fimetic 1 year ago
@fimetic I think you are right. Ausie born, American trained.
tenor185 1 year ago
@tenor185 Thanks, I wasnt too sure. It certainly is not an important matter .but its good to chat to another fan especially a knowledgeable one. Thanks again, f.
fimetic 1 year ago
@fimetic
Canadian born
sunidak 1 year ago
@sunidak Really, what part of Canada and have you lived there all your life?
fimetic 1 year ago
I've this video-dvd! Exellent performance.
DVD-OPUS-ARTE. 2 Disc set.
wimniewenhuijs 2 years ago 3
This opera is wonderful. you can not do it better.
Danielle and Sarah, love you both.
Fan in Norway.
Guitarman1943. You Tube.
Guitarman1943 2 years ago 8
Divine!!! Thank you for this lovely posting!!
Kievest 2 years ago 8
You're welcome!
mariandelochs 2 years ago
If they ever remake Carmen Jones, this is her - and one that can do her own singing!
DoctorSyn2 2 years ago
loved this finale every single time :))
tedsler 2 years ago 4
Danielle de Niese is not American. She could be nowhere but Austrian.
A1nduril 3 years ago
Sorry A1nduril, what do you mean by your second sentence?
She is an American citizen, born in Australia of Sri-Lankan parents who have Dutch and Scottish lineage.
LaMagnifica13 2 years ago 5
Sublime performance or both Connolly and De Niese... simply the best I have heard so far.
coreliandude76 3 years ago 2
I thought Cesare is man :D sorry , Sarah Connolly!
delauge 3 years ago
I am becoming a fan of De Niese......I have always loved Sarah C.
gclef2288 3 years ago
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anyway, their singing sucks...
svejelka 3 years ago
yeah right!
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
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i think they like pussies both!!!
svejelka 3 years ago
your'e just sick and ignorant
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 13
And I'm glad you've taken the trouble to read my comments by marking them down! Maybe you'll see how childish you sound.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 11
What a relief to hear two singers with a bit of a body in their vocie. Not the usual beautiful but utterly thin baroque-voices.
dannymaestro 3 years ago
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are they lesbians?
svejelka 3 years ago
De Niese is dating Gus Christie and Connolly is married with a child. I think it's called acting my dear..
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 5
Some people haven't the foggiest about opera and the many liberties it takes beyond the usual theatrical ones. Forgive them for they know not what they speak of.
mariandelochs 3 years ago
I shall try but the lesbian remark was a bit silly!
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
I don't even know why the poster who made the 'lesbian' comment did so - he/she seems to be interested in opera, based on the profile page...but thanks for rebutting a lot of the silliness posted about these great video clips here!
mariandelochs 3 years ago
Well, the person who made the 'lesbian' comment is clearly besotted! Thank you for posting the clips. It is most interesting to read 'some' of the comments.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 2
Well, now, let's not generalise shall we? Thank you very much!
wieck81 2 years ago
Well, for those of us that are, this is great fun!!!
annaenanna 3 years ago 3
she is terrible.. she "sighs" into pitch and just bad, bad, bad
operawhore64 3 years ago
who's bad?!
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
de Niese is bad.. just terrible.. go to broadway..
operawhore64 3 years ago
LMAO!!! xD O_o
coreliandude76 3 years ago
She is fantastic. Nice nickname you gave yourself y the way.
wieck81 2 years ago
scena svilita: giulio cesare è un "pupazzo di cartapesta". Non c'è nessun coinvolgimento a vedere tubare due donne....E nulla di che la voce per di più...
Athys700 3 years ago
Forse il signore si riferische ai "pupazzi di cartapesta" che va a vedere di solito sulla marionetta sotto casa e non all'opera. La voce e l'espressivita' della Connolly e unica e' proprio anche la sua capacita teatrale oltre a quella vocale(veda GRAMMY AWARDS 2008)che hanno fatto dell'opera un masterpiece.
ps.veder tubare due donne puo essere altrettando coinvolgente certo ma non all'opera!!
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
Simply wonderful
armycasa 3 years ago 3
do you really think Julius Caesar, Cleopatra etc had dirty fingernails? Well maybe sometimes Caesar, but this wasn't medieval Europe you know.
rapiddominace 3 years ago
You said it mate! Check your remarks from 2 months ago re chain mail etc.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
Yeah, but the people with dirt on their fingernails wouldn't be the ones tooting arias. They'd be extras.
rapiddominace 3 years ago
You didn't make that clear in your desire for an 'authentic' Roman production circa 47 BC, 2 months ago..
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
tooting arias..how quaint.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago
I just purchased the DVD of this performance. I enjoy every minute of it. Recently seen Giulio Cesare, conducted by Rene Jacobs, in Amsterdam. 4 hours of great music performed by great stars.
Perryvale 3 years ago 3
This is bliss! Their voices melt into eachother very well. Sarah Conolly is connvincing Cesare; s very handsome woman. De Niese is growing into her own.
mozylover 4 years ago 2
Can't disagree with your assessment at all! Thanks for the comment.
mariandelochs 4 years ago
ok, this is the opera Julius Caesar...why the hell are their british soldiers in pith helmets walking around? some sort of alternative thing?
rapiddominace 4 years ago
Sorry but have you never heard of 'artistic interpretation' and imagination? Recasting stories in times and places outside of the original setting has been done, oh, at least thousands of times now. Shakespeare, Mozart, Haendel, etc. have all been presented in eras other than their own. The British empire ca. late 19th century serves as an excellent metaphor for the Roman empire here. Please inform yourself a bit more about these genres.
mariandelochs 4 years ago
I don't think it does as Julius Caesar was set during the Roman Civil War, I just don't see how they could get that out of the british Empire. Furthermore, this is like my favorite opera and I just don't think it's cool when it's not Julius caesar, Cleapoatra and Romans running around.
The artistic impression I'm still waiting to see, is fully accurate representaion. Down to the chain mail on the Roman soldiers and the dirt under their fingernails, instead of silly muscle armor.
rapiddominace 4 years ago
As a historian you should know that Handel's opera is a Baroque interpretation of a Roman story. The singers and stage in Handel's 1724 production were dressed in Baroque finery with with an allusion to Rome. David Mc Vicar's production merely attempts to draw parallels to the power games world leaders play, the winners and the victims,ergo the British Empire 'buying' Egypt. It is far more interesting to grasp the underlying drama than the literal one.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 2
I will admit though that she is beautiful and the music is as well.
rapiddominace 4 years ago
For the same reason that in another production the setting is at an outdoor swimming pool with 20th century bathing suits and beach towels, and GET THIS_ SUNGLASSES!, a current gun AND an Evian water bottle (I wonder if the firm paid for this advertizing). In another scene of the same production there's a woman (I believe the mother of Sesto) wearing a modern dress, and in yet another, there is a plastic gardenhose that Sesto is holding that could not have existed until recently. So, GO FIGURE.
contessabrilliante 3 years ago
guess I'm old fashioned, the opera runs so rarely that when it does come around I'd like to actually see Julius Caesar and Cleopatra.
rapiddominace 3 years ago
At one time I also saw it your way. And as "Old fashioned" as you say you are, you ARE seeing Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, only they arrived in a time machine and saw the future (from Cleopatra's time) and decided to dress accordingly. They LIKE updated attire, sunglasses, modern guns, Evian water, and a rubber garden hose (if you saw the other Giulio Cesare videos you knw what I'm talking about) I used to think like you. I updated since. Now try to be openminded. It's more fun!
contessabrilliante 3 years ago
To each his own, but I'm a professional historian, which is what attracts me to baroque operas in the first place (well, the music too). I like to see it from the original point of view...I like the fact that I'm watching the same thing that, in this case, the George II, the Duke of Cumberland and Sir John Ligonier saw (which I know will never be exact..but whatever). I always find myself interpretting the opera in a historical sense, this kind of stuff just throws me for a loop : )
rapiddominace 3 years ago
As a historian you should know that Handel's opera is a Baroque interpretation of a Roman story. The singers and stage in Handel's 1724 production were dressed in Baroque finery with with an allusion to Rome. David Mc Vicar's production merely attempts to draw parallels to the power games world leaders play, the winners and the victims,ergo the British Empire 'buying' Egypt. It is far more interesting to grasp the underlying drama than the literal one.
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 4
In addition, rapiddominace, the literal minded 'historian', I can't think of a single mezzo, much less a counter-tenor who would agree to the disgusting prospect of singing with dirty fingernails-YUK. Besides one's soiled pinkies not being visible to a single bod in the auditorium, it would look gross when signing autographs..
LaMagnifica13 3 years ago 3
Very enjoyable, thank you!
soganzallein 4 years ago
You're welcome!
mariandelochs 4 years ago
I really loved this performance, I saw it at the Royal Albert Hall Proms a while back- great acting, singing and presentation!
pillarofsouls 4 years ago
Now I'm really envious of you, as I am of anyone who's seen and heard Connolly sing Cesare here! By the way, how difficult - or easy - is it to get a seat to the Proms? (I live in the USA.)
mariandelochs 4 years ago
WOW
thanks a million!!!
you're the best
also this video is wonderful
radubradu 4 years ago
You're most welcome !
mariandelochs 4 years ago
Isnt Danielle De Niese Australian? She was born in Australia then moved to America i believe.
Motetftw 4 years ago
Yes, Danielle de Niese is of Dutch-Sri Lankan parentage and born in Australia, and then moved to the US. She's now considered an American, I believe.
mariandelochs 4 years ago
She certainly has a strong australian accent though :P
pillarofsouls 4 years ago
Does she? Really? I couldn't detect it myself - she sounds so Caucasian-American to my ears!
mariandelochs 4 years ago
Hmm, actually you are completely right! I could have sworn she had an australian accent when I watched the extras on the cesare DVD, my mistake! :)
pillarofsouls 4 years ago