Myth: Illegals, Abortion Covered By Health Care Reform

[vannacupcwake]

Now what about the girls who get raped when theyre only like 13 and get pregnant? Theyre supposed to pay moeny to get rid of it? Thats sickening,

[strokeofirish1]

"Obama good repubs bad that does not comput"i'am a robot programmed by college professors and the liberal media please let me drink from the fountain of the master BARRACK OBAMA ! Must reelect must reelect must reelect....HAHAHAHAHAHAH NOW THAT's entertainment!

[GenericRubbishName]

I would hate to live in the USA. I have no idea how Americans don't realise their healthcare system is an international joke.

[Unrealll6666]

Just stop taxing us.

[tomanyasses]

just when did a politician not lie

[jeabo0adhd]

Page 110 of H.R. 3962, (Lines 17 - 22) allows funding of Abortions. How do you argue that Mr President?

[BlindLed]

Thank you for sharing this I did view it when it was first aired!

[cldump]

this guy is a fucking liar.

[martinezjosei]

Once again Obama is playing with words.

Yes, abortion IS covered but....

under certain conditions.

No, abortion is not covered as an elective the way we think of electives.

Why is it so difficult for him to qualify his message correctly? What is he hiding?

Why can bother said: yes and no, then specify when is yes and when is no.

[th3und34d0wn]

FUCK YOU OBAMA YOU GODDAMN SOCIALIST!

[miasmablk]

@th3und34d0wn Are you republicans ever going to come to a decision as to what exactly liberal democrats "really" are (wink wink)... because It's been socialist , fascist, communist, etc. so what exactly is it this term?

[FabricationFilms]

Blaming anything on Obama would be an insult since he isn't the one really making all the rules now is he? Rockefeller might be one though xd

[srs876chief]

Abortion IS covered by health care reform. Pages 992 through 1000 clearly states that...hookers and porn stars aside...family planning can and WILL be granted presence in the school scene. Family planning is an educational agency. On page 999, line 13 causes family planning to have the right to have ties with a school clinic as well as draw from the govt funds provided for that clinic.

[Wilone328]

America's voices must be spoken! Would you believe in Barak Obama's health care bill? Stop by my utube channel to discover precisely why Y0UR voices means something !!

[sage0857]

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW

Fuck RepubliCUNTs. they are the real sick bastards

[joe035]

Stupak held out because of the abortion language in this Bill. There was no proof of citizenship required in the original Bill though there was a mandate to put it in the democrats votede out. The Pres is a prove LIAR. How do you like the transparency and sweetheart deals for the unions.

[srs876chief]

@sage0857

You know what's really sick? It's the unholy push. I'm sure it's been building for 40 years now. It's a govt saying it's okay to have unholy sex and the same govt allowing the ending of life because of it. But I s'pose that's the demoncrat way.

[alright4u]

@srs876chief Sadly you touched a real nerve among some.I have seen morals go to hell, plus values thrown away, and; it appears many feel entitled.

[FabricationFilms]

@sage0857 Both Republicans and Democrats are on the wrong track. You need to stop looking at parties and start looking at what laws you want to be applied to your country.

[MrLandreth]

@FabricationFilms well said of i do say so myself. plus the fact that he is a liar

[reaperman2010]

@sage0857 Wow, that's a lot of peace and love coming from a liberal.

[PatriotWatchUSA]

Uptake you look REAL stupid right about now

[PatriotWatchUSA]

So we just learned today that this was all bullshitz.......

Abortion is COVERED

Illegals were covered even thou he told us they werent

NO DOCTOR coice either per OBAMA

[MingoCue]

@PatriotWatchUSA

Yeah. Typical opinionated conservative thing to do. When you're clearly proved wrong, just accuse them of LYING!

Oh hi Joe Wilson.

[PatriotWatchUSA]

@MingoCue

are you saying ABORTION is not overed on OBAMAcare?

Is that what you are saying Mingo

[MingoCue]

No. I'm saying tax dollars are not being used to provide abortion. Abortion is not going to be outlawed, no matter how much you radical conservative fuckers want it to be. Abortion is covered just like it has been since roe vs. wade, and just like it should be.

[DetroitRick1]

If national health care goes through, be prepred to have a tax increase. Don't think so? Let me ask you this. How is the government going to come up with the money to fund the govenment health care?

[savagenoble7]

I assumed they were just going to spend money they dont have like they've been doing for two decades ^_^

[hadenufnow]

Thank you Joe Wilson for all your honesty displayed in the house..

Please Donate a small piece of your kahunas to this dude that has run away with our credit card & costs us $100 BILLION Dollars Every time his mug gets on TV..You always MAN UP..

He always Blames Bush..

Pathetic...

[brandonrourk]

Is in it abortion in most cases and elective process. So why should it be covered by insurance if it was not rape or the mothers life in danger? Hair transplant, plastic surgery and skin pealing are all an elective process.

[crescentaluna]

How far the rightist takeover has been. Any ethical person will recognize that health care should be UNIVERSAL, covering everyone - no matter their immigration status - and every legal health procedure should be fully covered. Pandering to the right this way won't win any righties over -- just make the system more cruel.

[kievskiimalchik]

@crescentaluna ok u pick up the bill

[kweer58]

1:20-1:32. President Obama's abortion remarks appear untrue. The Obamacare bill in the U.S. Senate (HR 3590) establishes the "community health insurance" (public option, paid for with federal -public -money.) On p. 118, the bill appears to clearly authorize the Secretary of HHS to require coverage of abortion-on-demand through the public option. The bill also appears to create new federally supported subsides (public money) to purchase private health plans that will cover abortion-on-demand.

[stavie03]

So do I still have the freedom to not purchase insurance???? why cant I pay our of pocket?

[crescentaluna]

Because of corporate meddling with the bill. Insurance co.s have inserted that (very profitable) part - sucks, don't it? Get corporate profits out of government!

[sarathomas208]

what would happen to children of ilegal aliens, pregnant women ...? did anyone asked that question or we are full of hate we don't even care what happen to those poor souls ..!

[charlitunaman2002]

We as a nation, have more obligation to save those that are unemployed, poor, destitute and lacking clothing, housing and food than those who enter here illegally. What would happen to those who are already here? Do we take the food from them, the housing from them, the clothing from them and give it to illegal aliens? Not only no, but hell no. We have enough dying poor to take care here. Illegals take the risk of whether they make it or not. If we are going to save, our own come first.

[PatriotWatchUSA]

Tell these poor souls to go back to where they came from or are you gonna pay for it?

Were broke OBAMA idiot.

[SickXXenD]

This is all fine & dandy having the gov have it's own insurance company and all, but what the hell is the idea behind having it mandatory? That is simply madness, forcing people, fining them, possibly imprisoning them because they can't afford health insurance. That's what I forsee in a future with that plan passing, along with alot of pissed off people i'm leaning towards all of this bieng a bad idea in the long run as well as the short.

Clearly backed by IRS, 1 way 2 generate revenue.

[ntrelief5277]

It's not a false claim that illegal immigrants will get health insurance under this reform bill. Even if Obama puts it in his bill that they won't. It will be considered a social benefit under the law there for making them entitled to it just like public education is considered a social benefit. Who dose he think he fooling? How do you think there going to cover it medicare cuts to cover illegal 's healthcare think about it.

[moonphibes]

Not true, actually illegal aliens are entitled to whatever health care plan the progressives force upon the American public. it would be unconstitutional for Congress to ban illegal aliens from participating in any health insurance plans, particularly the public option.

The Supreme Court already ruled in 1982 that whatever benefits the government makes available to the general public cannot be kept away from a class of persons based on their immigration status or that of their parents.

[ntrelief5277]

Re-read my statment that's what i just said illegals will get health care benifits.

[moonphibes]

Sorry, I agree with you. I said that wrong.

I was getting interrupted while typing.

[ntrelief5277]

Thank you for your honesty. I'm glad there are more people who speak what on there mind after carefully reading and examining this issue.

[moonphibes]

I meant to true, not not true. Obama and anyone in Congress should already know this.

Proposition 187 was struck down by the courts as being unconstitutional when California tried to block illegal aliens from accessing the states social services. One of reasons why California is now bankrupt.

[AuntChanteal2002]

You mean "does"

[paulc1939]

Unlike you Mr. President, I don't HOPE illegal aliens will follow the law and not attempt to use your new healthcare insurance system. Every bill currently working its way through Congress intentionally excludes mechanisms to verify eligibility. We know illegal aliens don't follow the law if it would prevent them from getting something they want. They violated immigration laws, work laws, driving laws, etc. Don't HOPE they will obey the healthcare law! Include eligibility checks in the law.

[lstl5]

The abortion issue and illegal immigration are non issues. It is just a matter of wording in the bill to eliminate both. Illegal immigrants are not getting free care unless it is a mater of life or death and then they go to the emergency rooms and abortions should be listed under elective surgery whereby under the present laws, if it isnt a necessary procedure, the patient will pay for it. They are both distractions to get away from the real issue which is that we desperately need hcr.

[dcarterfrom07]

YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mandy26lez]

btw you cannot ask a person if they are legal are not because everybody that walks through the er has to be treated so the price will go up because of them like always only the price you will pay is increased taxes. and there has to be death panels and rationing with this plan how else is the government going to have enough money for everyone to have health care?

[smoovun]

Vitro Diagnostics might have a cure for diabetes, saving trillions in health care costs.

[kweer58]

Yes, Obama does intend to force taxpayers to fund abortion-on-demand in a public plan health care option. It does not matter to him what your religious/moral objections are. Do not take my word for it. Watch him (as a presidential candidate) say it on YouTube: "Obama promises abortion in public plan". He uses euphenisms like "reproductive health" to disguise his words.

[Shieldmaiden23]

I don't buy it.

[metalmatthias]

Because?

[pnkearns]

Yes, we have problems. The answer is not to clusterf**k the entire systems to fix the problems.  Duhh.......

[jaingxu]

Let america run itself, thats what a free market does. People vote with they're money. Quit requireing companies to pay health insurance. I say eliminate health insurance all together. You don't work you don't eat, you don't get health care.  Thats the way america used to be, and that eliminates the corruption, high costs, and spending money we don't have. Our companies could pay us almost double if they didn't have to pay for this outrageously expensive health insurance.

[mmcintee]

Yes! Eliminate social security too. Let's go back to the days where there was no safety net and if people were unlucky enough to be old or sick when they lost their job or were poor they just had to suck it up and die. Compassion? I guess that has a price too.

[mmcintee]

Yes! The unregulated free market did such a good job with real estate and financial derivatives. Why let morals and principles guide us when we can rely on unmitigated greed?

[mssedmebich]

Well the last thing they would want to do is abort an anchor baby.

[genius2005]

With all due respect Mr. President, the talk of 'Death Panels' will not die because you fail to remove your advisors like Ezy-kill Emanuel who wrote books on euthanasia and priority curbs on the elderly, sick and the poor.

You also fail to connect the dots from the bailouts of Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan's trillions in worthless derivatives and credit-default swaps and the only way to pay for those bailouts is through MASSIVE MASSIVE AUSTERITY CUTS in health care and aid to the poor.

[layleft]

I can't believe people who are against the the Health Care bill back their arguments with quotes from Palin. PALIN. I mean COME ON! Not that the current plan is perfect, but GEEZE. Almost sounds like people are getting ALL their news from FOXNEWS or MSNBC, both of which are no better than the Colbert Report

[highhorse313]

Hey - Colbert does more to expose the truth than most reporters!! People are not listening to the facts about healthcare - that's the problem. NOT LISTENING! They hear a word like socialism from an ignoramous like Palin and run like a pack of dogs off a cliff!

[chewbaca1989]

As a matter of fact these politicians, and yes it's meant as a slur, are for OPEN borders.

Obama is a Socialist bordering on Communist.

[greyflcn]

re: chewbaca1989

Can you explain to me what's "Socialist" about congress setting up a Private non-profit corporation funded by fees?

Since that's what the Public Option is.

[chewbaca1989]

Well if I did that you probably wouldn't believe me. Should I go on?

[highhorse313]

That's a little melodramatic, don't you think?

[chewbaca1989]

Most folks are like cattle, I'm not perfect in this regard. But if you a deep breath and stand back, you might look things differently.

[highhorse313]

chew, yes, let's take a global perspective and realize that we have to take care of the sick and poor all the while we let corporate bloodsuckers take our money through deregulation and tax breaks. To whom much is given, much is expected.

[chewbaca1989]

Globally speaking tyrannical government and empire has been tried before. Through war and economic conquest these leaders have been demagogues and strong men.

We have pirates running the governemnt from the private sector now. And to give them monopoly power over the health system is disadvantage Americans even more.

[highhorse313]

And your trust in corporate America is founded on what evidence?

[chewbaca1989]

That's a very valid question.

I'm looking a little different that some folks. I really think the government creates these monopoly's in insurance.

It's seems to me that the HMO brought into existence by Nixon and his subsequent dismantlement of Brenton Woods Agreement in 1971 created this problem we have in health care.

You and can't buy out of state insurance right now, and their isn't term insurance either.

Corporate monopoly is created by government.

[highhorse313]

See, you've strayed away from the facts and have created fantasy. Many of us remember how the insurance industry inserted itself into the business model with an equation that at first brought us discounts on pharmaceuticals, then it was the actual doctor visit discount. Through 8 years of GOP rule and runaway deregulation, the insurance companies are now out of control and taking gargantuan profits and excluding SICK PEOPLE. The managed care arm needs to be checked and dismantled.

[chewbaca1989]

No, look it up for yourself.

Brenton Woods Agreement

Nixon and HMO's

And the eventual dollar collapse, a bigger crisis than today's will not make it possible to have this medical system.

Frankly I'd warm up to it if we were on solid financial footing.

[highhorse313]

It's going to happen. Might as well resign yourself to that. Each year 18,000 people die because they have no healtcare - that is at least five 9/11/01's every year.  It's costing us too much money to not insure them. Let the insurance companies flounder, tough luck for them.

[chewbaca1989]

Obama is not Black he's CFR

/watch?v=_Qy97pFDLig

[highhorse313]

There should be a place for the disaffected like yourself. I wish you the best of luck with one of the shittiest silly little girl attitudes I've come across in quite a while.

[chewbaca1989]

You called me:

Scared rabbit, silly little girl attitude, creating fantasy, and brought up racism. I might have missed another thing you called me.

All I did was give you facts about: CFR, monetary policy, abolished Glass Siegal, NAFTA, Brenton Woods, government monopoly, emending dollar devaluation.

Well I'll insult you too.

You are a COOKIE MONSTER.

[chewbaca1989]

You insulted me by calling me a REPUBLICAN!

I forgot that one.

[chewbaca1989]

All of this is a swindle for government to wrap it's greedy hands around us tighter.

Illegals won't be turned away.

[gamoonbat]

Under HR676, health care will be rationed. There will be no funding for women to have abortions, for example.

[klingoncelt]

The bill prohibiting federally funded abortions passed a very long time ago.

[nohealthcare62]

#HR676 Twitter ur congressmen @cxs#HEalth HR676 Now ! HR676 will make Abortions UNNESSARRY ! Wake Up America ! Stop Being Stupid Listening to Stupid PPL !#HR676 NOW !

[Willstruth]

Ask yourself...why did the DemoRats vote down an amendment that would have required proof of citizenship in order to apply for healthcare benefits?

In doing so they intentionally left the back door wide open for illegals to apply for and recieve free healthcare benefits.There is nothing to stop them from doing so and no way of knowing whom gets gets healthcare benefits!

Obama is just another shaddy used car salesman!

[gamoonbat]

If all citizens have an insurance plan and are getting their bills paid, then it woud be a lot more obvious who are citizens and who are not. In the current situation, a lot of our citizens are being harassed and interrogated out of suspicion that they are here illegally when they go into a clinic or hospital.

[Willstruth]

"a lot of our citizens are being harassed and interrogated out of suspicion that they are here illegally when they go into a clinic or hospital".

That's pure bullshit and you know it!

Hospitals and clinics are not allowed by law to directly ask a patient about their legal status.

[highhorse313]

Now, there's some language that Republicans can get their teeth into!! They can get right on board with this one. And I'm not saying we shouldn't require identification - we should.

[klingoncelt]

The bill hasn't been voted on yet.

[KCUAC]

lolol......... this reminds me of the Wilson administration and the Propoganda Ministry.......

I hope the teleprompter does not CRASH............ muahahahahaha

[klingoncelt]

You were around back then, old timer?

The bill will pass. Deal with it.

[gamoonbat]

@KCUAC has ideas which are a lot older than the Wilson administration.

[KCUAC]

it does not look good for Obambi...... he is getting all wee wee'd up huh?

muahahahaha

[klingoncelt]

Nice stupid fake birth certificate video you posted there, old man.

Stupid much?