Open Secrets of BDR mutiny - Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina meets Bangladesh Army officers ( Part 04 )

[zaheercy]

stupid sheikh hasina!!!!!

[TheBlackhawkfalcon]

i wanna fuck the government....bloody government and the bloody political officers of army

[be1z]

hasina holo desher shotru

[washrafulw]

ai awami league hoilo india/raw'er dalal...desher shotru

[lovelyBoy1990]

But BDR er a munity er sathe mainly ke jorito??

I am a student of rifels college.....So I am interested at this

[Engineblock088]

PLEASE READ FROM MY FIRST POST TO THE LAST TIMEWISE, MEANING IN ORDER, MY LAST POST TO FIRST TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE. THANKS

We need a general public education, without it, Bangladesh will become a country full of intelligent robots but they will never be considered people and our leaders will continue to loot the country. We will never elect people who love the country more than any material asset into office.

[Engineblock088]

yea its become one of those cycles, you put smart kids into the system, and they come out as booksmart people, NOTHING MORE

[madmonsoon]

Well, you can point finger to all directions. Nobody is totally is blameless. The best and brightest people are probably either starving or moved away from the responsibilities to make a living. You got bunch of mediocre people ruling in all spheres of Bangladeshi life. Respect and civility are not what these people value. Stealing and asking for forgiveness are the daily routines that these people follow. That creates only monsters.

The main problem I see is the leadership vacuum.

[Engineblock088]

Think about it, if educated at an early age, people would not have such a tendency to let their emotions take control of them; cng drivers wouldnt be charging these rates; people would have tools to fight oppression outside of rallies and violence. If our policemen were educated, they would ACTUALLY be doing their jobs. Same goes for the military and BDR.

[Engineblock088]

Thats not going to happen. When someone visits Bangkok, theres a variety of things to do outside of shopping. What is there to do in Bangladesh? We have the tools, we just dont utilize them.

The only solution is education. And I dont mean book smarts. I mean general public education, so that everyone plays a part in the betterment of the society and the nation.

[Engineblock088]

Why should an institution for learning be subject to politics? What does architecture have to with politics? Our population is facing an epidemic with smokers.

These are a few of the many problems that are present in Bangladesh. Whether you like it or not, all of these problems combined will never lead to any good. People talk of Jamuna Future Park being the key for turning Dhaka city into the next Bangkok, or Kuala Lumpur, or Singapore.

[Engineblock088]

Dhaka city streets are in a vile condition, there are hazardous potholes everywhere. Schools and institutions which claim to offer the best education are only in it for the money. Our learned students are troubled when they are placed in a multinational situation because we fail to adopt proper English teaching techniques. We do not have electricity for atleast 5-6 hours a day. Our public universities are riddled with politics and ploys.

[Engineblock088]

What I AM saying is that you SHOULD NOT generalize everyone based on a few.

Simply put, our ENTIRE system is corrupt. It is corrupt at its highest AND lowest levels. A politician loots the country while autorickshaw drivers charge mindboggling amounts for small distances when the law dictates that they shall go by meter and shall not refuse a customer regardless of destination. No one maintains any sort of rules when travelling, be it road laws, vehicle load limits, etc.

[Engineblock088]

The other person has just as much a right to stay in this country as the army man. Again, this is a prime example of letting emotions get the best of you.

For Non-Bangladeshis who are generalizing an entire nation of people based on the actions of a few, you show absolutely no maturity in your statements. You call Bangladeshis animals then are enraged when others generalize all muslims as terrorists. Hypocritical no? I am not defending a race, nationality or whatever.

[Engineblock088]

There are instances where someone has contradicted the armys actions or have condemned them only to face outrageous responses from someone who claims to be in the army. Notice that the person finishes each statement by commanding the other person to leave the country, town, etc. Your actions dictate others perceptions of you. How can one perceive this person of being educated when he is commanding a person to leave the country because he has an opinion?

[Engineblock088]

The rickshaw puller was about to turn right onto a road, legally. It would have taken 2 seconds to complete his maneuver but the army personnel waiting for the puller to pass lost their patience. In a matter of 30 seconds I heard them verbally abuse the puller with every profane word in the dictionary. All this and the puller did nothing wrong. Why do the army or anyone in power for that matter consider themselves Gods?

[Engineblock088]

Some say that when the military ruled Bangladesh during the last two years, everyone was at peace. Was it the military who were solely responsible for running the country or was there a government whom they had to answer to even if temporary? What we need is military cooperation, not military rule. The higher ranking officers may be educated but are the infantry? I personally remember travelling into an area of Dhaka city on a rickshaw whilst the temporary government was in power.

[Engineblock088]

We as Bangladeshis allow our emotions to take control over every action which requires sound judgment, therefore impairing it completely. And there are examples of this in the audio recordings.

The army personnel, although their arguments are justified, are using a tone which is inappropriate in the presence of the Prime Minister. Regardless of her actions, she is an elected head of state, and deserves the respect that comes with the position.

[Engineblock088]

Why do we continue to elect people into office whose main concerns consist of looting the country?

It is because we allow our emotions to get the best of us. Notice the comments posted regarding these videos. They either contain derogatory messages towards people of particular nationalities or are placing blame on certain groups/parties/people. Very few were written with a calm demeanor.

[Engineblock088]

Notice that I use the word dissect and not blame. Why? We all know that the commonality in this whole matter lies with the political government. Not this one in general. How many political governments regardless of which party, have actually gone forward and have done some good for this country? And yet they continue to be elected into power so that they can carry out their own agendas. Who elects them? Its not the Pakistanis, nor the Indians or whoever. WE elect them.

[Engineblock088]

Well for those who might be in doubt, I am Bangladeshi, and I live in Bangladesh. Ive seen all five videos and have read the comments regarding each one.

What people aren't doing is trying to dissect the information and trying to find out the cause of this. SO be it that justice may not be served. I repeat, it MAY not be served. But thats just something we all will have to live with. But I do have some opinions to express, you may like them or not, and it is my right to express them.

[Engineblock088]

I am going to post a number of comments, they are all connected, so please read them in order, starting with the latest to the most recent. thank you

[sohana28]

shabash qamruzzaman we needed sum 1 lyk u je pm ke pm er bhul niye question korte parbe

[romantictheman]

Look WTF this bastard PAKI is talking!!! hahahah!!now fucking paki's are fucked by Taliban & USA...bloody hypocrite nation..no backbone at all. By heart Taliban & also love to take USA flavour...all bastards

[itsacrises]

yes we are when we need to be its called human nature of survival of the fittest , pakis don hav that , cowards do not have such similarities unfortunately .

[supermanpaki]

bangalis are wild animals.

[tazmina87]

how dare u shit pakistanis to make comments on our country.u killed our 3 million ppl, and hoping in coming future u will be destroyed, pakistan will be no more..i hate u pakistanis and ur f***ing country

[tmirdotorg]

watch my video: India and Bangladesh: Lets Unite Both countries

[Jagoruk]

Qamaruzzaman's role is dubious and inflammatory. Bangladesh Army must be purged off these unruly elements who were present in that meeting, or else the head of democracy will roll on the floor again and again....civilian rule will be always at high risk as long as we are having this army.

[proletariat1818]

i dont think they were disrespectul to PM. she has just gone through some grilling. she needs to go through that grilling everyday she needs understand that politics is not power it is a method to serve the country , she has taken the responsibilities of the country and therefore there has to be accountability. i wish there was griling for every action govt takes , then govt would understand that they are there to serve not enjoy power.

[aftab7000]

Given the fact that army personnel are human too and were definitely very upset after the massacre, I absolutely understand their sentiments......what I do not understand is the lack of discipline and divisiveness in the army, evident in the tapes!

The army officers were not just disrespectful to the PM, they were disrespectful to their seniors too...even to some of the survivors of Pilkhana massacre.....

Some of them had to say chup koro, bolte dao.

Disturbing..

[jodu1971]

PM Hasina has courage. Didn't a faction of this army killed her father in 1975? The officers definitely vented their trumatic feeling and anger. I think it is good for the overall situation and the country. Thanks PM for listening to the the officers. I think the whole session audio should have published. But when will the people stop this kind of killing in BD?

[proletariat1818]

my previous msg might sound self contradictory but i agree with you to some extent.

[igii1947]

Girls' schools.

I think the Pakis can do what they like with their people. But the ey should keep the ideas to themselves.

In fact I would prey that all schools in Pakistan should become Madrassas, all women should wear complete veil, all men should grow beard, All music should be banned and they should pray in Mosque 500 times a day.

Tht is the way "forward" for this shithole called as Pakistan. The Americans have been buggering it for decades. Please continue.

[sameerk88]

watch your mouth,

you will not tolerate me saying shit about your country.

neither will we tolerate you saying shit about Pakistan.

only 1% of Pakistan in FATA is totally in hands of Taliban...

try to understand our problems and help us rather than make statements like RAW.

Thanks brother.

[igii1947]

I am not saying any shit about your country. The facts speak for themselves. Pakistanis come to here to UK and bring their fanatism here. A lot of them live here on the handouts from Government and still cause trouble here. Their contribution to the British society is zero. But they put a lot of drain on it and are involved in terror attacks like 7 July. You people are fighting with everyone including your own people.

People can help you if you people stop being so ungrateful.

[sameerk88]

hahaha,

i feel sorry for you. you can vent out your hatred as much as you want. it just shows your lowlife nature.

you can call a whole nation "shithole" because of activities of a few?

grow up, this is not how things work, I want peace, and you want war, its clear.

You should come to my city Karachi, Pakistan, we dont pray 5000 times a day and all of us dont have beards also.

You are acting worse than an Indian mate.

[akhen18]

yoooo shut the fuck off u knw pakiii save ur country 1st

[lumen13slayer]

ya they r saving Bangladesh u dn need to fucking think about that...just stop suckin that old pussy

there is no paki and indo... there is some bustard like u ..for whom Bangladesh cant march on the right way

[sameerk88]

lool

save my country 1st???

Again i would say,

Come to Karachi... COMEEE and see what Pakistan is before talking trash from Dhaka.

and there is no need for me to save my country, its not going anywhere :)

I am always open to friendship with Bangladeshis, its you guys who talk trash.

[bristiahmed]

Why you are here ?

Go foreever to pakistan.

[etravellor]

yeah its true u bloody fool that u dont need to save ur country cuz its gone ,destroyed already.backbonelees wenkerhahahah.and u want us togo to ur country thanks bro i have no wish to touch shit.sorry being rude ,plz next time never make any comments for bangladesh cuz u guys have no right

[sameerk88]

i am not making comments on Bangladesh....

but you should not make comments on Pakistan also.

ill respect your country always, but you need to do the same, but no, you guys are lowlives, you need to say shit all the time.

[IslamTheLoveOfMyLife]

- "The facts speak for themselves. Pakistanis come to here to UK and bring their fanatism here"

There are no facts for this, this is your opinions heavily influenced by the sun newspaper and daily mail.

- "A lot of them live here on the handouts from Government and still cause trouble here"

What sort of trouble? What about all the English people who cause trouble? What about the thousands who DON'T cause trouble?

- "Their contribution to the British society is zero."

Again, your opinion..

[IslamTheLoveOfMyLife]

- "are involved in terror attacks like 7 July"

That old nutshell. Now I know you definitely pick up the daily scummy papers lol.

- "You people are fighting with everyone including your own people"

If by you people, you mean muslims. The US/UK/Zionist army has killed thousands around the world.

- "People can help you if you people stop being so ungrateful."

I really hope your not 69 years old as it says in your profile. It's very sad to see a gentleman of your age with such ignorance.

[sameerk88]

thanks for clearing it out brother!

some people really are confusing opinions with facts on Pakistan.

[igii1947]

I do not understand the Indian subcontinent politics. But in Europe there is conviction in most influencial quarters that it is the handiwork of a neighbouring nation (secret agenciy) that is drowning very fast in Islamic militancy.

I am talking about about the shithole Pakistan where the Army is trying to get back it's control on opium trade in Afghanistan, the civilian Government is in tatters and has no control, the Army is taking its orders from Americans, and its fanatics are closing down

[sanjeevumd]

ARMY are so violent. IF ARMY entered the CAMP 90% BDR will be killed. but 10% BDR did that.

[hedrian2009]

this army officers are stupid!!! don't know how to talk with a prime minister with respect!!!!

[rakib2064]

Shut up!!Keep your mouth shut you jack ass. What have you contributed ever to country,Ppl like you have nothing to do with BD. Just get out of the town.

[washrafulw]

respect whooooo???? hasina!!!!!!

u should know these army officers' mental condition, they lost their friends just because of hasina's mistake and lake of common sense...u people like aleague more than bangladesh...very unfortunate

[munkuet]

whts the outcome of this audio tape ,nothing good for country but it is veiled to public the existing crisis in army,the stupid who put this video should be hanged for the shake of country.

[rakib2064]

Learn spelling of sake first. And I come from Army background. Dont even think of blaming them. These corrupt politicians should be hanged first. Ppl like you will not even qualify to be an officer ever.

[kallol1234564]

@munkuet u're absolutely ryt. i completely agree with u

[ports0339]

Bangladesh is in big trouble. Is India involved? Is army going to kill Hasina like they killed her family to take revenge? Is there any discipline in Bangladesh Army? I listen all the 4 parts. It seems like a political meeting of uneducated, corrupt politician.

[rakib2064]

Don't ever question BD Army. If there is one institution which cares about BD that is Army. All ppl like you can do is analyze. But Army does it in ground. Get Lost.

[bloodrooted6428]

if army wishes to knock someone uot,what force can stop them?so, if something is shown by army that is not decipline,that is mercy.

[BARACKobamaFANclub]

MP Nanok in a media briefing in front of Pilkhana declares that "It was a big conspiracy" and lac lac crore taka were distributed in Pilkhana." DEAR MEDIA, HE WAS RIGHT. BECAUSE EACH DAD WORKING AT PILKHANA GOT TK 25 LAC between 22 and 24th February, distributed by nanok's men. It is now clear that nanak and DAD tauheed had been communicating each other for last 1 month plus. They are classmates.

[mukitdiu]

casualty barto???????? ar theke beshi r ki hobe? politically ki shomadhan korchen uni. oikhane army dhukle ki ar theke beshi morto jekhane bhitorer ekjon bolteche je oder ke mara hoyeche 11.00 tar por? PM ke ar uttor dite hobe.

[d882k]

As up to the second day of the mutiny people know only few were died... how can u think that an army operation would be a better solution... If these many army person were died that time, you would say the opposite thing.. It is very easy to say after all happening.. it was wrong.. that was wrong.. To my view Hasina didn't mistake, she took an optimum decision at that situation..

[bloodrooted6428]

sometimes honour gets the priority over lives,there are lots of incidents in world army where huge casualty were accepted to uphold honour.

[vijaikonatt]

country secret should not put like this site, who put this one may ALLAH excuse him, like this people are traitor of the country, we will punished them with strong hand insallah.

[bloodrooted6428]

what is the secret here bro? Prmine Minister dont have the ans,this one?

[ShamimMHuq]

Again this one event should not malign the Bangladesh Army. It has come a long way from the deaths of Mujib and Zia. To their credit they were instrumental to institutionalize the Election Commission, The Judiciary and Anti-Corruption Department as independent institutions in the past two years.

This allows an effective check to the unbridled rule by the parliamentary majorities of the past.

The behavior of the officers in this event cannot be condoned. Good for Hasina to stay calm.

[abdussalim]

Brother I am interested to hear Mrs khaleda Zia her reply Mrs Hasina in Parliment which was BLOCKED last week

[samrulz00]

SPREAD THE WORDS BROTHERS

[fahimdhaka]

How do we know the real fact like this if you tube is blocked

[serfmio]

May Allah bless you for having the guts to show everyone the truth. Regards brother.

[Asifnur]

The video-sharing website YouTube has been blocked in Bangladesh for hosting a recorded conversation between Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and the army officers, officials said today.

[TruthAndKnowledge]

Who recorded this conversation?

[miftauzzaman]

THANKS, MR. NASIM