JFK Assassination Grassy Knoll Gunman (?)

[magnaflowedramx4]

Yes ,I believe the first shot to the curb with fragments flying is a large key in solving this cover-up....also who knows anything relating to James Files who was stationed at the pickett fence ? The people who are in denial over this case number in the millions.

[migo53333]

@TheHogger129 who recovered the files bullet casing?

[tom6612]

Oh McAdams. Never mind.

I was under the impression this was a serious video until i saw his name.

[NostalgicChannel]

Jacqueline Kennedy may have participated in the conspiracy to assassinate her husband, President John F. Kennedy.

[migo53333]

@NostalgicChannel please! Jackie? Really? please dont post anymore.....

[timewatch12]

He would have survived the first shot if he had not been wearing his bade brace, this stopped him from falling down, 6 seconds, just enough time to reload and take the head shot

[cruisersism]

THE FATAL HEAD SHOT DID NOT COME FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL! IT CAME FROM THE STORM DRAIN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD,THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN.

[LoneNutter1]

@cruisersism No it didn't and no it hasn't.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 why would anyone want to view the prez from 30 feet away behind a fence...wouldnt you find it more logical to go down closer to the sidewalk?

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 Are you suggesting that if someone was watching the motorcade behind a fence they're suspect?

Did anyone see someone carrying a rifle by the fence or knoll? No. Did anyone see someone aiming a rifle at anyone from the fence or knoll? No. Did anyone see someone shoot a weapon from the fence or knoll? No. Did someone see someone running away from the fence or knoll carrying a weapon? No. Was weapon found anywhere near the fence or knoll? No. Was there any physical evidence a weapon was

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 did anyone hear gunshot from fence or knoll, yes, many. from all different locations,discounting the echo logic. price, the engineer siiting on roof opposite side of dealy saw a man running from fence area across parking lot behind tsbd....who would leave the weapon behind?????? oh yeah...the guys that did the framing on oswald, i guess they should have neatly lined up the bullet casings near the fence also...this isn"t a waste of time, Im retired....i have all the time in the world

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 The echo logic is essential in this case. Lee Bower testified to the fact that for years he head sounds that seems to be made by the triple underpass but were coming from the front of the TSBD. You can't dismiss echos because Dealey Plaza reverberates with echos. You ask an excellent question "who would leave a weapon behind". Since we're talking about shots from the fence or knoll it would mean the weapon was carried away from the scene. So I'll ask you again, did anyone see someone

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 Mr. Price did.....

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 running/walking away from the fence or knoll carrying a weapon? No. Logic says if nobody carried a weapon away and there was no weapon found in the vicinity of the fence or knoll and there was no physical evidence of shots being fired from the fence or knoll...there were no shots fired from the knoll. This is further supported by the physical, medical, ballistic and forensic evidence from JFK and the limo. Twelve pathologists have stated JFK was not shot from the front or side.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 did you ignore what i told you Mr. Price observed, a man running from fence area across the parking lot behind the tsbd.....and you say that no one was seen running from the scene?

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 There were no bullet holes on the side or interior of the limo. There were fragment strikes to the trim around the interior of the windshield and a fragment strike to the interior of the windshield.

Lee Bowers had the best and closest view of the fence and he did not see anyone with a weapon nor did he see anyone leave the area with one.

Muddy footprints show where someone was standing. Muddy footprints do not mean someone fired a weapon. That's just silly thinking.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 explain the james tague trajectory........

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 lee bowers saw two men behind the fence.....and again, Im going to ask you.....if the Prez of the USA is coming in a motorcade and you r at the end of the route where no crowds r a once in a lifetime encounter......you would stay behind a picket fence 4o or 50 feet away peering over at the motorcade......kind of strange behavior dont you think....?

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 Strange behavior doesn't mean you're an assassin.We're in agreement about Bowers. But you leave out essential information when you neglect to add he didn't see anyone with a weapon.

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 There's an excellent and logical reason for leaving/ditching or hiding a weapon after killing someone; if you're caught carrying a murder weapon how do you explain that to the authorities? LHO hid the weapon because he knew there wasn't time to disassemble the rifle and if he's carrying the thing out in the street it's going to attract attention. Are you suggesting the rifle was planted? That means someone had to break into Ruth Paine's garage undetected and they had to know where

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 a mauser was found on the 6th floor.....and if you r going to say they misidentified the mc as a mauser.....then maybe you should talk to the experts that were there and saw it....

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 the rifle was hidden. They had to leave the garage undetected and on the day of the assassination they planted the rifle on the 6th floor (and they had to get LHO to leave the building too). I suppose your going to say CE399 was a planted bullet? The logistics for pulling that stunt are astronomically implausible. And the bullet casings? How did they get there? That's odd; Harold Norman was on the 5th floor of the TSBD and he heard 3 shots and 3 "hulls" hit the floor. This conspiracy

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 stuff is laughable and foolish.

The pro-conspiracy people have placed at least 24 gunmen in Dealey Plaza blasting away at the president and not one witness saw any of them shooting, running away nor was a weapon found nor was there any evidence a weapon was fired from any of those 24 locations. Yet the pro-conspircy obsessed expect clear thinking people to accept their dozens of versions of "the truth". How goofy is that??

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 Thats what a lot of people always state in this case..... i never said there were 24 gunmen in dealy, that is ridiculous.....you pool everyone into the nut job category.......JfK had alot of haters, he fucked up alot of good action for certain people....they wanted his head.........I only have one version.....the other theories are mostly diversions created purposely to make it seem like people r crazy.....

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 I never said you were the author of the 24 gunmen in Dealey. Your pro conspiracy brethren have collectively invented the 24 shooters. I can only guess at their motives for creating these folks. But you've aligned yourself with these folks the same way I've aligned myself with the investigations. Your association with these people is something you'll have to live with.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 Youve fallen into that category.....and believe THE TRUTH theory....as if the gov never organized with anyone to pull off coverts.....you r really in denial......

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 I didn't said the government never organized covert activities not have I implied it.. You pro conspiracy people love to put words into other people's mouths to "prove" your unprovable point.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 besides lee bowers, who saw the 2 men behind fence, sam holland and co workers ran behind fence and found footprints in mud between car bumper and fence,with mud prints on bumper also.......yeah i would stand in muddy arae up behind fence 50 feet from prez of USA partially obscured bt bushes and overhanging trees.......yeah thats where i would stand to view a once in a lifetime in person glimpse......

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 fired from the fence or knoll? No. Was there any medical, ballistic or forensic evidence a shot was fired from the fence or knoll? No.

So why are we wasting time insisting there was someone shooting from the fence or knoll? I'll tell you why; because a second gunman means there was a conspiracy and a conspiracy will sell books, videos, movies and lots of other material for the purpose of making money. And there are lots of suckers out there who believe anything that says conspiracy.

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 so mr. nutter, i take it that you would feel deeply betrayed if the truth of a conspiracy did evolve futuristically.......

[LoneNutter1]

@migo53333 What does "evolve futuristically" mean?

[migo53333]

@LoneNutter1 it means that in 2038 they are going to open the books on this case...

[gyco7]

what blows my mind about this debate, is that the bullet that went through 2 people, is a flawless bullet. the government doesnt dispute this, yet, fire a bullet into someone, have it break several types of bones, and then come out pristine? is santa clause real?

[Puck2442]

@gyco7

No, the sexy part is that the bullet is flawless yet there is a photo showing fragments removed from Connoly's wrist. How can they recover fragments if the bullet is not missing any fragments?

[larry1369]

I'm pretty sure he was compensated by Daakbar JFK murder Solved. I think his website is a great source for a lot of the players and background info but Files/Sutton would only be credible to me if men in his unit in Laos would come forward and say "Yeah we remember that crazy SOB he was from Alabama right"?

[johnsain]

JFK moved the ball forward in Vietnam. How much is another thing. He keep us involved. Period. And his chosen VP accelerated things massively.

Whatever he had planned for 1965 was uncertain since he may not have even been reelected. Also, he did change his mind on crucial matters (read some history on "Bay of Pigs".....how many deaths was JFK responsible for there?

[Humes53]

Also Oswald had absolutely NO preference for LBJ over JFK! "Yeah I think I'll shoot from my workplace, leave my rifle, run away and then deny that I did it." No one is that crazy!

[Humes53]

lone nut, you really are a nut iu you believe Oswald outsmarted the entire security of th US government. You still believe in Santa Claus? Did you see Jesse Ventura Conspiracy show the other night and GHWBushes involvement? If Oswald had killed JFK he would have bragged just like Mark David Chapman with Lennon. That piece of crap Carcano couldn't possibly have fired three shots (there were at least five) in less than six seconds. Zapruder film shows head shot came from grassy knoll!

[cyberwing777]

I believe you have located the badge man in the wrong place, I would check that.

[larry1369]

Although I agree with you as to who carried it out. Without the complicity of Hoover and LBJ it would have never been possible.

[Tolbertscott75]

I love to watch about the assassination and also read. But I do however think that some people putting posts up here are misinformed. If you werent there or even alive then how the fuck could you have a theory, Videos on the internet. As soon as a long lost video comes out with a flash of light from a barrel, everyone will just continue to look like assholes. I would love to find out what happened, but that's not gonna happen. Not to mention half of you, probably think the movie JFK is fact.

[larry1369]

@Tolbertscott75 The real evidence is in the books. Read Bush Family of Secrets. JFK Why he died and why it matters by Jim Douglass, or start with Deputy Roger Craigs 63 page manuscript. His knowledge cost him his life.

[LoneNutter1]

@larry1369 Go right ahead and believe whatever. As a reformed CT'er I've seen the issue from both sides. Actually, it's many sides. There's the truth as clear thinking rational people see it. And then there's the CT crowd who are all over the place with their theories, specualtion and innuendo. They don't have any facts but they base their opinion on wild ideas and overly active imaginations.

[larry1369]

@LoneNutter1 If you have researched the murder as you claim and you notice some of the CTers grasping at straws you have to realize the daunting task of filtering out the red herrings. Such as people like Files/Sutton or whomever he claims to be. The conspirators brought in the mob, Cuban expats as well as the Bay of Pigs operatives who felt betrayed by JFK. I believe this was done by the CIA to in an effort toblame on another group that also wanted JFK dead if it blew up in their face.

[LoneNutter1]

@larry1369 That's an interesting opinion. But I've not seen any evidence that would lead me to believe the Cuban exiles, the CIA or the Mob had anything to do with the assassination.

There's s smattering of interesting relationships these three groups may have had. But to extract a theory without significant supporting material (just an immense amount speculation) I think is far fetched and an exercise in guessing.

[zelen35]

james files claims tht he is the holland shooter that killed kennedy and now they are saying it was a black dog man or the badgeman u fire the head shot

[larry1369]

@zelen35 James Files is a con man. He was close to some people and used that to parlay it into some cash! I was in the unit he claimed to have served in and his time frame doesn't match up. On that note since nobody has been able to find Files' service records maybe he could tell us some of the army guys he hung out with back in the day. See I could tell you that about my service and you could go back and ask them if they knew me. Apparently with Files this isn't the case so let's verify Jimmy!

[slotstikskimboards]

@larry1369 Files is sitting in prison for the rest of his life. What does he have to gain by telling this story? According to you, he would risk his life for some commissary cash. And even if he was greed or fame driven, then why did he decline to sell his story to Oliver Stone, the person who could make him rich and famous? On the your other point, how hard would it be to erase military records if you had the ability to successfully conspire to kill the president?

[larry1369]

@slotstikskimboards I guess you think he told this story for no monetary consideration? Oliver Stone would have started with Files/Suttons service in the military. He claims to have been selected to serve as a trainer to the military of Laos. I'm not sure if you've ever served but if you have than you realize that they don't pick green (newby) soldiers to act as trainers. There is a veterans groups for operation White Star. Where people who served in this op can contact their brothers in arms!

[slotstikskimboards]

@larry1369 Hi Larry. Thanks for your response. From what I understand, Files was sitting in prison when he was contacted by Joe West about his role in the assassination through a tip provided by a former FBI agent. He only divulged information to West after he was certain of his motives which were based in a desire to exhume JFK for forensic testing. He was never compensated by West, and after West's death ( under mysterious circumstances ) said he would never be interviewed again.

[larry1369]

@slotstikskimboards I was intrigued by the Files story and wanted it to be true but sorry I just can't buy it. If Files/ Sutton wanted to clear up some of the doubt he could name his Company Commander !st Sgt. and others who might remember him. Does this make any sense to you? Some things are very easy to verify and Files/ Suttons ' service with the 82nd Airborne is one of these.

[BarryDennen12]

I can't see a shooter but I think I saw bigfoot up there.

[cobrafarmer]

Documents reveal Ford changed "back" wound to "back of neck." When caught, Ford claimed it was an attempt to "be more precise." Hard to believe, as all physical evidence contradicts Ford's change.

FBI documents reveal that Ford was an FBI informant. He leaked confidential details to FBI Director Hoover, whose Oswald-as-Lone-Nut scenario formed the WR's basis. Ford assured Hoover that the two doubting WC members would pose "no problem." Ford sold out justice to buy his future.

[LoneNutter1]

@cobrafarmer Bunk!

[larry1369]

@cobrafarmer Yeah but one of those doubters told Garrison and he went after the Louisiana connection to the murder. When Hale Boggs left his papers and personal effects to Tulane U the FBI went in and hauled them out. It seems some review of the material was needed. Lol

[magnaflowedramx4]

If you study infomation about E. H. Hunt and David Morales, You will learn that these CIA operatives along with their crew, set up this whole chain of events. Oswald was only a pawn and President Ford admitted to altering the government official version to make things sound more believable. Ford was on the Warren Comission.

[LoneNutter1]

@magnaflowedramx4 What a load of bunk! Gerald Ford never said that and you're taking his words out of context! Typical CT'er; distort, fabricate, skew, blurr, assume, accuse and falsify information in a desparate attempt to avoid discovering they've been wasting their lives chasing phantom assassins.

[larry1369]

@magnaflowedramx4 It's my impression Oswald was an FBI informant and notified his handlers about the training camps JFK had ordered Hoover to shut down. The payback by the Bay of Pigs gang was to frame him for murder and then kill him before it could explode in their face.

[magnaflowedramx4]

@larry1369 You are probably on the right track of thinking......and where did the bullet that missed come from? Nobody ever mentions that.

[magnaflowedramx4]

@larry1369 As many peices of information that I have looked at, I cannot find anyting on where the bullet came from that hit the curb near the bridge. I've looked at a street view of google earth and the only likely place it came from was one of those buildings from the other side of the street.........so many unanswered questions.

[migo53333]

@magnaflowedramx4 you r talking about the shot that shattered the curb causing a concrete chip to nick james tagues cheek...... this is the smoking gun......the trajectory from 6th floor does not line up with the curb.....shot more than likely came from daltex building.......ps ignore lonenutter comments.....he is a disinfo guy....

[LoneNutter1]

Whenever I'm feeling the need for a good laugh I take a short trip on my computer to YouTube and read all the wacko, silly, comical postings of the Conspiracy Koo-Koo birds! I had no idea there are sooooooo many funny, funny, funny, funny people!!

[mikefan09]

sorry i had to go it like this youtube wont let me post the whole link as one normal link, suspicious.

[mikefan09]

type youtube web address in your browser, forward slash, then this link:

watch?v=dcHwMqc5pTA

[mikefan09]

now, just to totall explode loneNutter1's idiotic theory out of the water, heres a few youtube videos to inform people and get u all started on the line of evidence im presenting with my earlier comment.

heres the youtube video to introduce you to this j.edgar hoover memo :

[mikefan09]

its amazing some people still cling to the completely untenable, totally full of holes official version, u knw at least warren commission tried to answer some of the questions that challenged the official version, with answers as ludicrous as the magic bullet insult! the 9/11 commission didnt even dare to answer questions that would have obliterated their official lie. if anyone is so stubbornly stupid as to believe oswald did it, after all this time & evidence contrary, google hoover memo

[Humes53]

Chrisdrumz, You got something against Oliver Stone? Forget that, a faction of the US government (CIA, LBJ, Hoover, Mafia (Trafficante, Marcello and others like E. Howard Hunt, David Atlee Phillips and others), conspired to get rid of JFK. They did not want a 24 year Kennedy dynasty for peace. Or do you believe that Oswald outsmarted the entire intelligence force of the USA? LBJ and Hoover suppressed all the truth (cover-up). Garrison was right on, Shaw was CIA. You dumdum!

[LoneNutter1]

@Humes53 I have something against people who lie and make a profit from doing so. Your posting is filled with the same old tired unprovable blathering, boring, dull, dull dulldulldull conspiracy hooey that's unprovable. Your posting is also the cure for insomnia zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

[larry1369]

@LoneNutter1 You appear to be one of those people who like to get on here just to mess with people. Get a life or read some books. Might not work. You may be too thick but nobody can blame you for trying.

[LoneNutter1]

I love reading the posts from the Conspiracy Cultists.

[Chrisdrumz]

@LoneNutter1 Me too,and to think at one time I was ONE of them.

[LoneNutter1]

@Chrisdrumz Me too!

[Chrisdrumz]

@LoneNutter1 A conspiracy is so much more EXCITING though.

[LoneNutter1]

@Chrisdrumz I agree! It's more interesting to speculate about the possible activities of various people who may have been connected to the case. For years I belived there was a conspiracy and have to say that the film "JFK" inspired me to do my own reading on the subject. That reading included authors who offered challenging thought to their work and didn't march to the drumbeat of CT'ers. My views have changed about the assassination and they're based on facts not speculation and innuendo.

[Chrisdrumz]

@LoneNutter1 Same here. I was a big Garrison supporter yet even as I read "ON THE TRAIL......" I saw WAY too many inconsistencies and holes. I am now of the opinion that Jim Garrison was mildly insane and Stone just hears what he want's to hear and runs with it. I DO however believe there was more to Oswald than meets the eye. The Russian immigration,Mexican embassy etc....

[LoneNutter1]

@Chrisdrumz I've been curious about where LHO was going after he left his rooming house. I suspect he was on his way to Mexico for two reasons; 1. Mexico would not extradite him to the USA if he were charged with a crime where he could be executed 2. I suspect he would have tried to get back into USSR (they would have been crazy to take him and I doubt if they would have) or he was trying to get to Cuba. (Castro would not have taken him either. Can you imagine the reaction from the US if

[LoneNutter1]

@Chrisdrumz either country did? There would have been huge tensions abounding with the Cuban missle crisis having taken place a year earlier) But, we can only guess where he was headed and I admit it would be a guess. CT'ers I'm sure have other ideas. Ideas with no basis of fact, but ideas.

[sargoth37]

@LoneNutter1 And just where do you get your facts from? Let me guess, the Warren Report, or some other Gov. source. How silly your logic is.

[LoneNutter1]

@sargoth37 That's your opinion. I really don't care what you think of me or my logic.

[Humes53]

Maybe not at the spot you are talking about but two people were back there, a look out and a shooter. Plenty of evidence for that, Lee Bowers, Skinny Holland and others who saw smoke from the bridge. Tons of people and a cop ran up the knoll. You had to have a shooter up close to make sure that JFK was killed and not simply wounded. Had JFK only been wounded and able to continue, all the plotters would have been hung. So a shooter up very close was imperative.

[Humes53]

The House Assassinations Committee agreed that a shot came from the front. You are bananas! The autopsy photos were faked. I guess Oswald did that. The Zapruder film, the head wound (tiny hole in right front, gaping hole in back) and witnesses all lend credence to a shot from behind the fence. Check out Lee Bowers and Skinny Holland testimony. You got to be a moron if you think Oswald did it. CIA set his ass up. If a nut like LHO did it he would be bragging that "I killed the president."

[Humes53]

You are BANANAS! I'm not talking about Oswald getting away with it dummy I'm talking about a lone nut outsmartting the entire secret service and intelligence assigned to "protect" the president and this little nobdy steps up and beats them at it. No way, Oswald was a patsy and it was a faction of the CIA, mafia hitmen with LBJ and Hoover along to cover it up. Oswald didn't prefer LBJ over JFK. The CIA did. Why would anyone eat greasy chicken before picking up a gun to shoot somebody?

[legacyskye]

see "Abraham Zapruder interview - 1966" on this youtube.com where he agrees with Warren Commision findings of single shooter. Zapruder never flinched if shot came from behind him.

[sargoth37]

That's James Files in the Holland's shooter spot or so he says. I thinks he's the one who made the temple shot to JFK's head. Jfkmurdersolved site has more info. on it. Click on knoll figure and Dealey Plaza subtitles. There's also the Black

Dog Man shooter as seen in "JFK-Case For Conspiracy I" towards the end of it.

[elmolewis1]

I can't see any gunman in this photo. People who ran up the grassy knoll were following what they saw other people doing.

[Humes53]

So what do you think Oswald outsmarted the entire intelligence forces of the U.S.A.? Wake up morons it was the government and only the folks in high places who kill the people's president and cover it up so Americans wouldn't get the real truth. Why did the cops run up there? LBJ gave them what JFK wouldn't...Vietnam.

[themeaningoflife38]

@Humes53 Col Robert Jones told the HSCA that he sent 8-12 Intelligence agents to Dealey Plaza that day.One of those agents, James Powell was found inside the TSBD building after the shooting.So Oswald alledgedly did all this with Military Intelligence in the building.

[CriticalBanana]

@Humes53 He didn't outsmart anyone. He got caught straight away. If Zapruder was mad and wanted to shoot jfk he had a clear shot too and so did any of the hundreds of people there. How do the "entire intelligence forces of the USA" translate to this situation, which on film clearly shows that just about anyone with a gun could have turned up that day and shot jfk? BTW the headshot is clearly from behind.

[Chrisdrumz]

@Humes53 You watched J.F.K. too many times.

[mikefan09]

@Humes53 theres a hoover memo that oswald was an fbi informant on the dallas cia mob shooting team that was planning to kill the president. he was actually helping the fbi investigation into anti castro paramilitary units as ordered by the president to hoover. since the cia was running the cuban anti castro freedom fighters, when they found out oswald was an informer to the fbi, they decided they'd pin the blame on him and so also warn the fbi and hoover to keep shut.

[LoneNutter1]

@mikefan09 What a load of baloney. More wacko CT'er theories based on nothing more than a desparate wish for a conspiracy to exist. CT'ers grasp at the slightest thing hoping against hope for a conspiracy to emerge. They're trying to salvage nearly 50 years of conspiracy worship.Someday some will discover they've been wasting their time chasing phantom shooters made of light and shadows from a faded photograph. "A non-event leaves no evidence".

[kennedy147]

@Humes53 your right vietnam. LBJ had him killed

[larry1369]

@Humes53 I agree with the Vietnam thing but when you look at the actual participants the JM Wave Group represent the failed Bay of Pigs thing. The most influential Texas billionaire who hired retired FBI to protect him was angry over JFK's statements about repealing the Oil Depletion allowance which would have cost Hunt 10's of millions per year. HW Bush was an 'oilman' as a cover for his CIA activities and also involved with the JM Wave of the Miami CIA and he worked on planning for Bay of Pigs

[TPBXDRicky420]

@larry1369 The people who were in the bay of pigs invasion were the ones behind Kennedy's assassination. They planed it, and carried it out with the help of Officer Tidbit(or something like that) and other CIA goons. they later killed the officer and replaced his body with JFK'S and altering his body to make the ballistics for the lone gun man theory look possible. and then they all blamed it on Oswald.THE END.

[johnsain]

@Humes53 JFK got us more involved in Vietnam.

[Humes53]

@johnsain

Wrong. JFK had authorized only the use of handguns but the CIA disregarded that and were using rifles etc. JFK had a small group compared to LBJ's buildup and had mostly advisors there. JFK signed memorandum 263 calling for all troops home by the summer of 1965. Go read some history. How many died under JFK in Nam? A handful. Over 56,000 died under the crooks of LBJ/Nixon!

[legacyskye]

I stood between the "gunman" and where Zapruder shot his famous footage earlier this year in Dallas. They were only about 30-35 feet apart. If someone shot a rifle and you didn't know he was there while you were filming, wouldn't you have jumped? Did Zapruder jump? Also, those people running towards the Grassy Knoll afterwards with their kids. Is that what you would do if you thought a gunman was there? Run towards them??? Get real, Amerika!

[pat442389]

@legacyskye why dont you listen to interviews zapruder gave less then an hour after the assassination and where he thought he heard the shots from. he was scared but he also had some1 holding on to him and he knew what he was filming was history. and yeah 1-5 ppl running up to someone with a gun is crazy but 100-300 ppl along with cops after your president is killed is not. why did ppl inside the texas school book dep. run towards the windows near the knoll and look out?

[rickyfan3956]

@legacyskye If I thought I could catch the sorry piece of work who did it, I sure WOULD'VE run toward him!

[Tomaji69]

@legacyskye - yes, zapruder flinched...the frames blur just after the shots. He did a great job shooting the camera under the circumstances AND he had someone HOLDING HIM STEADY, so that made a difference. Yes, the shots were loud. Kids didn't go to the GK - open your mind....more than one shooter. The umbrella man signal where shoots began....duh...

[Humes53]

@legacyskye Most people there thought it was a firecracker or a backfire. LBJ knew better as witnesses said he was the first one in the motorcade to duck! Zapruder had vertigo...he wasn't jumping anywhere. It doesn't take Einstein to see that the head shot came from the right front. Conspirators had no idea that a film would be made showing such accuracy of the murder. Why was the film locked up for years? Coup d'etat, faction of the US government did it and LBJ covered it up!

[ShadowLinkxMaster]

I can't really see the gunman

[blungo99]

@ShadowLinkxMaster y, we can't see "him", because there is NOTHING there.

[jaimadman]

@ShadowLinkxMaster its because the school book depository isn't in the photo.