陳奕迅 EASON CHAN 表示對香港樂壇心灰意冷

[rescuemegod]

開罪說句家駒當年都踩樂壇即係90年代起進入衰退期,.本人係聽­以往家駒歌多,即使以前哥哥、梅姐、DANNY等天皇級歌手 都冇点聽,因只聽beyond都令我聽好耐d solo正到俾, 值得一讚家駒主力唔係話sell唱功(他都走過音), 其嗓子係較特別,特別唱d浪子心聲(似王傑style))的歌,­旋律令人活躍起來; 曾聽過阿paul訪問都話過流行歌唔係家駒心中的音樂,我們聽及­唱以往家駒的歌對家駒來說只係碎料(只用少於十分之一功力);其­心中的音樂(10分之9功力)我們都從未聽過,可想家駒的造詣如­何??我估家駒的音樂領域係要用多類型樂器彈奏出令人 touching,而樂譜又要好艱難,多實驗性電結他音樂掛; 他曾想出純音樂的碟(甘國亮以前tbb的戲都用pure music來襯托), 我相信因為純音樂可注入多元素音樂類型, 可多樣變化亦可突出創作人的功力;但要歌手唱出聲的歌來來去去只­唱到1個副歌位; 本人真的想paul於1個concert show彈埋家駒10分9的音樂, 唔好成日又翻唱他的流行歌(如長城、我是憤怒...)

[cvz1999]

感覺台灣一直都有一些創作歌手以及實力派的還不錯，香港好像比較­少，雖然台灣爛的也很多。

[iraynwang]

曾經的香港的電影、台灣的音樂~~唉~~最好的黃金時代已經過去­了~~~

[MrBluerains]

好彩有学友压阵

[xpanda92]

0:02 最左面果個邊個黎?

eason係咪講緊佢咋

[mcdaddy714]

說出我心聲!

[wingwing0510]

如果佢個好兄弟出返黎，佢會唔會有心機啲?

[william970902]

香港暫時在生的只有張敬軒and Eason感動到我

[ed0411]

@william970902 ya~ 我都幾鐘意軒仔 , 當然仲有LAM哥!!

[yanli42]

eason走红关台湾人鸟事？

[xmisspretzelx]

佢而家把聲都沙啞左好多啦...又話保住把聲, 但又唔戒煙

[siyuxie]

@xmisspretzelx 距自己都有压力啦，

[LIMYEONG]

问题总结。。。因为周杰伦在台湾出现了...人家的音乐跨越这么­大。。。香港音乐还是没进步。。怎会赢台湾呢。。。周杰伦出现后­。。音乐焦点从香港的重镇移交去台湾了。。。真的。。。

[iam888iam888]

佢灰極都要 食飯...........

[scorpiogirl328]

看见现在的樂壇, 就愈怀念家駒. 如果佢冇死就好啦.

[scorpiogirl328]

英皇的歌手全部都是垃圾except Joey.

[Lesliengng]

@scorpiogirl328 joey唔垃圾但d歌垃圾左勁多

[MrKint1129]

自從過了1999年後...好多歌手唱歌...真係差...

唱得之人...真係很少...只有側田一個感動過我

現在的我要聽回80.90年代歌曲...



[KP8126e]

吾岩嘴形 -.-"

[ed0411]

係愈來愈差,不過又未灰晒架, 有冇聽903電台?佢地近年多播本地band sound, 好似 Mr, rubber band 咁, 新d 既kolor, 佢地好多首都好聽丫, 個人方面齋論唱歌, 其實官ella同陳柏宇等, 都係唱得之人唔係垃圾

[Asyuar]

@ed0411 MR........

[heartkeepbeating]

@ed0411

咩叫新啲?!

Kolor早過Mr,同Rubber band,你聽band sound?

[ed0411]

@heartkeepbeating 謝指, 個人少聽Kolor

Kolor真係早過Mr.,不過wikipedia寫Rubbe­rBand2004成立, Kolor 2005成立

邊面真邊面假anyway,都冇影響我原文意思, 我意思主要感覺香港樂壇唔灰得晒, 指出仲有好多好歌~ peace~

[jezzicajezzica]

@heartkeepbeating sorry頭先個post寫錯字:

路過....Kolor係遲過RubberBand成立. Kolor有d成員以前係o係一對叫"臨記"既band度玩過而­唔係叫做­Kolor. btw, 係"RubberBand"唔係Rubber band. 我大約2000-2001年Paul Wong+汗時開始聽band :)

[abc23411973]

好采,,有EASON係度,,但可以對香港樂壇沒甘心灰意冷..­.....

[ed0411]

@abc23411973 ya~　近期ｅａｓｏｎ果首歌有句我個人好鐘意~

開心的派對散後無法聚

活得精彩結尾切勿流眼 

[namida401]

e家樂壇可以講係垃圾

[TGSKK]

睇下今年新城國語力頒獎禮~

上去拎獎既香港"歌手", 有幾多個走音就知, 新人又有, 舊人又有

連比人話唱得既舒漫都有問題

自己睇到都羞家,

[s03091062123]

除美國尚有之外......我睇香港係數之又少. 最近流行既西方果邊又搞d新團.又咩super j乜乜啊....又少女時代啊..又勁多野......唱d歌真­係唔係講笑. 一句:首首都會有個愛字.都係講失戀.

[5bpublic]

佢講完呢番說話之後就被雪藏....

[karr153x]

@5bpublic 都雪藏唔到幾耐啦香港樂迷都唔會俾+依加仲半年出一隻碟 ：P

[qqbbrwo1]

我记得当年哥哥回归乐坛的时候讲过几乎一样的话

说现在的歌手很多根本不会唱歌

这样愿意讲真话的艺人已好难得

[hide98000]

講堅...心灰又唔見佢退出?

同埋...香港還香港...唔好拎其他地區既歌手來比!!!

[cslxxwilliam]

@hide98000 五比，有点会有进步阿。五好再固步自封拉，甘罗去死路一条架咂

[hide98000]

@cslxxwilliam

自己本地音樂都搞到一塌糊塗..仲學咩人講對比,,進步?

[cslxxwilliam]

@hide98000 搞左甘多年，话要努力改进最后都系5得。系未应该思考下中有咩其­他路可以行？自己做得甘差，其他地方做得甘好，都5去学下，甘米­就系固步自封罗。

[hide98000]

@cslxxwilliam

咁你咪拎台灣or外國來同自己對比下囉,,如果你唔知醜既話

[cslxxwilliam]

@hide98000 知耻近乎勇，呢个道理你明5明

[hide98000]

@cslxxwilliam

明又點?你覺得個樂壇仲有得救你咪去救囉@@

[cslxxwilliam]

@hide98000 同你讲都晒气

[hide98000]

@cslxxwilliam

係你認為自己樂壇有得救所以先覺得我哂氣姐,,根本你係多餘

[sydgayu]

感觉大陆的宋祖德跟他好像 喜欢说三道四

[girlfong]

@sydgayu 你不是香港人,不要亂說話

[s03091062123]

@ktzhk3345678 我相信你有一種技能..就係一秒可以講十次粗口出黎@@

[ktzhk3345678]

果然狗改左了吃屎 睇住你班死忠激撚到火紅火錄真係正 明明e神係一堆屎 哈哈 屌你老母呀死忠門 死班傻西

[jash9527]

對...

大家都感覺到了吧...

香港比較舊算最好聽的梅艷芳、張國榮等都不在之後

就剩下陳奕迅、張學友這些有點老,但天王巨星級別的人會唱歌

現在香港的歌...能叫歌嗎?

不就像是有人在唱karaoke嗎??

所以我看見一個又一個不是踏上聽英文歌和歐洲歌就是日文歌

泡菜人的歌就別提了,因為他們只是抄襲日本的風格,更是日本一半­以下的成績

[bigdavyuk]

五十步笑百步

[lawjones1993]

如果Eason冇病，點會唱成咁？

因為今次有病而否定佢十幾年的實力，個D人都低能。

P.S.上面條片佢都係講實話姐。

[EvTrev11]

@lawjones1993 ting ton changon

[D6T91030]

傳說中既現眼報 有陣時真係唔好亂講野 真係好邪

[tohoy1985]

a7167563

龍頭有o那個天王，jay？都是局限於中華地區。o那有像四大天­王是國際性。

始終現在音樂都太商業化， DOWNLOAD太流行， 搞音樂是賺不了錢， 香港人才會慢慢放棄， 龍頭人覺得很厲害？哼～

像電影市場，龍頭好劇本好演員多嗎？可以賺錢的，都是香港人拍的­。龍頭？是人家讓給你的。

[thepp44]

@tohoy1985 又關周杰倫事既.收啦你,我覺得你唔夠認識佢囉,佢去到好多地方­都好出名架.eg:日本,泰國,LA都識啊.唔國際性咩?講野仲­扮哂野咁

[jing713]

真係串，不過如今佢把聲o米又係...

[chihuahuabebi]

怪STEPHY , TERESA 0個D垃圾囉

[msbrownization]

如果那個時候的歌手的表演已經算是在虐待聽眾耳朵的話, 現在的那些是在謀殺吧...

[0915317566]

人紅了之後

有了歷練之後

就是會比別人有更多感慨..

唱個歌...聽的人感覺好就好了

說難聽一點..一首歌

未必是唱的人會唱

也許只是詞好.曲好...

[vc05349]

2003年的新人多數是得個靚樣的

但後來已多了點比較能唱的

[26698409]

自beyond既家駒去世之後 終於有一個歌手講出對香港樂壇既心灰~

[a7167563]

香港歌手能聽的歌手沒幾個吧~

像是陳奕迅這種等級的中生代歌手都沒幾個了~更何況是新生代~

香港的樂壇老實說~近乎滅亡了~台灣畢竟是龍頭~爛咖雖然不少~­但好咖卻更多~所以根本不怕沒人才~連內地近年的實力派新人也越­來越多~香港目前不止歌壇~連電影界也是~新人跟資深斷層真的太­大~到現在能扛起票房的還是那些常客~有點可悲~

[yhc212]

台灣要謝謝金曲獎~~ 每年都鼓勵一些非"暢銷 "非"主流"歌手!!

像是以前未紅的周杰倫 陳綺貞 還有今年的盧廣仲~

[siusiu6439]

香港歌手差好多

[kimura3033]

Unforunately the situation in HK seems getting worse and worse...these days I would rather listen to Taiwanese singers

[yoyolove63]

香港在歌壇上就不是很會做音樂了~以前的港星紅都是台灣給他們歌­唱,現在香港也是跟台灣一樣出一些爛歌手....

[youareshit001]

這倒是真的

以前港星唱紅的歌，多半是台灣製作的

因為早期港星很紅(香港電影強勢+包裝好)

所以臺灣人作一堆音樂給港星唱

等於是他們的音樂代工者

當時台灣不懂包裝歌手...

[tea550]

你懂個p

早期港星很多都是翻唱日文歌曲

奠定了在香港走紅的基礎

才來台灣發片

所以並不是台灣人讓他們走紅 而是那些日文歌曲

不信的話 去找張國榮 張學友等人的粵語成名歌曲 幾乎都是日文原曲

[yhc212]

@tea550 但華語市場畢竟比香港粵語歌大很多~~

張學友的吻別~ 會紅到世界去 連外國也翻唱~~ 也要謝謝台灣的音樂人啦!!!

[tam1234hk]

@yhc212 什麼時候華語市場等同了台灣市場?

難怪在台灣,大中華地區銷量變成了亞州銷量

[yhc212]

@tam1234hk 台灣是主流~~ 這是事實~ 但迎合廣大大陸市場 更是不爭的現實~~

[harrylcy118]

閣下說笑嗎?哥哥,學友很多歌曲本也是日語歌呢。難道臺灣人也作­日語歌嗎?

[Kellychan2046]

sometimes I feel like I am not up-to-date to those new singers in hk, even I am just 20ish. There are way too many 'computerized singers' , could release their albums. They like to blame on free download for an excuse for poor selling. Honestly, free download has an effect on selling, but not the major. poor quality it is.

[ttcsuck]

You can't underestimate the impact of free D/L. Look at Taiwan if you think HK singers are bad. In 90's a first-line singer could easily sell half million albums, and could get near a million if popular. Nowadays even Jay Chou's newest album sold roughly 0.15 mil copies.

[ttcsuck]

People also easily forget since after 2000, singers can no longer make profit from selling albums because of the free download. Singers need to expand market, perform multiple shows, act in more movies to keep their companies running. Eason's voice is just a victim of this situation (+ his family issue). Not too many people have the stamina of Andy Lau, can work like 20 hours per day like Energizer Bunnie.

[ttcsuck]

His comment is actually very different from Kar Kui's comment. Kar Kui wanted people to sing less "lum songs" which are not "man" at all. Eason never put down any style, he only claimed that people should focus more on the music and singing, less on the packaging.

[TKOGNB]

香港只有娛樂圈, 沒有樂壇!!!

[vanchunyin]

Well said XD

[misachiu]

我都有幾年時間冇聽過廣東歌啦，我以前細過嗰陣成日聽架！依家我­聽國語歌多d。香港系有實力派歌手但系好多都系老牌歌手，新人好­少唱得嘅。

[vi0l0ncell0]

This was 2003.

He won't say this again in 2009.

[Stephen01620]

佢講ge係事實

[joaling]

true!!!

now can hardly find any gd singers in hk except eason n joey ;(

hope hk music industry will get better

[calmohk]

香港樂壇係近十年先係咁呀姐

有一大班老一輩的歌手都掂

例如有羅文,梅艷芳,譚詠麟,張學友,林憶蓮,呂方,張國榮 等

(冇數到的歌手 唔好意思 一時諗唔起咁多)

[macaochi]

你諗住香港仲靠佢地啊?全部都四五十歲,掛ge掛,香港無一個新­人似樣,睇下人地台灣同大陸,你就會發覺咩叫進步

[wcferic]

唱歌無分年齡既, 唱得80ish 都係咁唱啦, 呢幾年新人都唔係無唱得之人丫, 方大同, 王宛之, kay, 曹格, 側田, 軒仔 等等等等 都叫做可以丫, 佢講既係以前boyz ar twins ar 橫行果時既歌手姐~

[ufohk]

他預言到呢排既走音事件

[jaredorz]

你講得幾啱，佢愈來愈退步

[pigiloveyou]

其實廣東歌音有6聲

作詞比國話歌只有4聲難好多

所以只要match到,就會變得好經典

好似eason的歌一樣,好多好多

現在係少林夕,黃偉文咁好的作詞人

[jca23]

can't imagine the HK music industry only gets worse since 2003.....no major NEW star, no good song....sigh....HK is done, it needs a savior

[1874EF]

支持EASON的！！

[p55521]

我最喜歡的香港歌手是 張學友張國榮再來就是陳奕迅了

[hidex1213]

講的是事實

他有種講出來才屌!!!

[cafeteria0060]

家駒很早己說過了！

[vinniechan]

Thing is, Eason writes bloody good songs, but they're more inclined to Rock style and they never get popular in HK

[zinjoson]

我發覺好多次逢係子珊做訪問 eason 都唔係幾好老皮 o_o

[churchillian2]

i agree

sighh

i miss canto music

[harry200x]

我是广州人，粤语歌还是会有自己的地位的。但是像eason说得­，现在真正唱功好的香港歌手没有以前那么多了。大有被台湾甚至大­陆赶超的势头，其实人才是有的，多点发掘的话还是。。。

[nymayeung]

講得好好!其實樂壇早冇實力派出來了...只有一d得個樣,甚至­連樣都冇的新人,在頒獎台上,抱住獎哭泣說多謝,但佢地叫咩名?­ 仲未記得住,又已經out左,又出一個新的...

咁樣點會有好音樂?本土流行音樂曾在80年代很鼎盛,但到90年­代中已經死了...只是人們不肯承應

[etyzm]

但是同一時間臺灣出現了本土音樂教父伍佰，陳昇；同是香港人却在­臺灣發展音樂人黃大鍏，周華健；還有深深的影響華語音樂的大師級­人物李宗盛，羅大祐。2000年之後香港更是一片死寂，冒起來的­都是謝霆鋒，陳冠希之流，2002年叱咤樂壇頒獎典禮還有一大群­fans拉起『創作女王梁詠琪]的橫額。從那時候我就不聽香港的­歌了。有時候還是會聽聽陳亦迅。

[kathyfky0605]

哇...你好熟wor ^^

[07070138]

但系唔理香港o既乐坛几o甘低靡，我都永远o甘支持距，因为我o­既身上已经深深o甘打上o左距o既烙印，我对香港乐坛有一种难以­言表o既感情...

[vinniechan]

oi

謝霆鋒 was good, when he sang the songs he wrote himself

[cafeteria0060]

你當家駒無到牙？

[stitchung]

人地都話新歌呀

家駒有新歌??

唔好咁敏感吧

[07070138]

97之后，香港o既娱乐行业真是大不如前，作为一个自细睇住TV­B同埋ATV长大o既Cantonese，我感到好痛心。或者，­呢样o野都唔怪得你o地...

[etyzm]

那我就跟你這個cantonese講一下。不要習慣性的把所有事­情都怪到97。香港樂壇鼎盛時期其實只有許冠傑的廣東歌改革，到­黃金拍檔黃霑和辜家輝的電視劇主題曲爲止（雖然途中有永遠的歌后­鄧麗君到香港發展，但畢竟唱的是國語歌）。其實從四大天王時期香­港樂壇已經走下坡，90年代雖然四大天王雄霸華語界，但不是因爲­他們的音樂，而是明星魅力（張學友除外啦）。

[wcferic]

我覺得4大天王各自有佢利害既地方既, 張學友唱得, andy lau 果時咩都唔得啦= = 但因為佢hard working e + 乜都得, 當然都無張學友咁勁, leon 就唱情歌好有感情, 雖然techni 方面麻麻, 但唱歌呢家野要有兩方面配合先得既, 佢感情方面表現都算唔錯先吸引到fans 既, 而郭富城就dancing 囉

[lenabobo92]

我對樂壇心灰意冷啦 !

唉 ~~~~

[smallkiller1234]

何止佢心灰意冷

我地做聽眾既直情已經冇期望

何止唱歌唔掂，搵個有星味既都難!

[honestview]

Let me tell you, they are waiting for a new artist.

[alan4superman]

I think for anyone who have heard Hong Kong music from the 80s to the early 90s would agree with Eason. Hong Kong music has been going down hill, not only in the melody and lyrics, but the singers as well.

[alan4superman]

Back in the 80s, Alan Tam, Leslie Cheung, Anita Mui, Roman Tam, Jenny Yen, and etc... all had good songs. Both music and Lyrics were at their greatest!

[RainC00L]

so agree!!!!

[aznhoboboi]

It's all about Beyond (original lineup).

[lequach89]

good point.

[willchorhotsoi]

i think the thing he talk about is not only singing. for people like you in Hong Kong thought music=singing. i'm afraid it is not. Music could be an art of singing, composing, arranging, sound mixing. Everything is truly going down these years. He might not be a good singer, but his point is truly right.

[cpssnorman]

佢都叫做唱得唔好!?

你無野牙==

雖然佢唔係登峰造極

但係一定唔係唱得唔好囉

[cpssnorman]

佢做咩咁既=.=

好似死老豆咁=.=

[willchorhotsoi]

if you know about music. Hong Kong is even worse than 死老豆.

[highburycatherine]

I think what he says is right...

But who can tell me what exactly happened??

[loungegirl]

Good for him!

I respect people who have the courage to give their honest opinion rather than the goody-goody ones who would only say the "right things" to keep a "good image".

[chungs0302]

支持eason!!可能佢表達途徑有d問題,但係佢係講得岩!

[willchorhotsoi]

yes, agree. if there are '有d問題', should say out loud. not many people dare to do that in the hk music industry.

[Macycy]

我同意。

讲真我自己有起码3年时间无接触广东pop（except eason's):不只词填得差,歌本身无听处，最重要系D歌手­毫无唱功听到有严恶感.唉。

[expiredoldbiscuit]

He is absolutely right, especially his point about the voice of the HK singers in general. Right now the HK labels (EGG and Paco are worst) simply put too much emphasis on the appearance. When they luckily get somebody with a good voice they just keep hardselling them without giving them time to mature and train their fundamentals. Everybody keeps using falsetto like "ghost crying".

PS. Jay has his style, but he is NOT a good singer. He's definitely a talented song writer.

[victattat]

有時真係令我覺得d什麼頒獎禮好快冇

[23909290]

講得好..

家駒都講過..香港只有娛樂圈,沒有樂壇

香港的歌星，男聲女腔，包括張學友...

男聲女腔=走音

[smallkiller1234]

re: 23909290

張學友都有問題?

[23909290]

我唔係個果年代出世 唔係好知

都係家駒講

[johnho0606]

張學友都唱得唔好???唔係啊

[billy1983yes]

hmmm 我不知道事情始末

不過我聽"男聲女腔"呢個字眼我唸唔係解"走音", 我認為意思係"堂堂一個男人淨係唱D失戀情歌霖歌, 沒有半點男子氣概"那種.

我都不能否認, 當時的張學友的歌曲(late 80's to early 90's)來來去去都是情歌, 演繹也未好到位, 變得聽落有D肉麻. 但而家的他勁左好多, 聲音特質不同了, 魅力強了, 演繹勁左好多, 歌曲的創意都大了, 所以聽落不再肉麻而是真實的感動.

[billy1983yes]

而且八十年代的歌曲, 雖然好多都好聽, 但係主題都是離不開情歌, 不論快歌慢歌都是情歌歌詞. 而且超過一半以上都是改編歌曲, 很少原創作品. 家駒同Eason的作品我認為是香港樂壇歷代以來少數的"新意"­, Beyond在情歌氾濫的年代唱著"再見理想", "我是憤怒", "光輝歲月", "海闊天空"等, Eason在情歌氾濫的年代唱著"我的快樂時代", "第五個現代化", "低等動物", "浮誇", "黑擇明"等

[jaredorz]

eason個d好多都華而不實同家駒比，差d喎我好中肯

[wenjia1012]

Though some guys tried to compare and convice that Jay is better than Eason, but personally I think Eason's voice touched my heart, hopefully there will be more and more good singers from HK

[wenjia1012]

钟意eason :)

Best signer in Hongkong!

And he was telling the truth, sad.

[ahpuipui1986]

his dad still alive lah...

[wilsonkingkong]

你收得皮

[siusi]

TOTALLY TRUE EASON!!!!!! I AGREE!!! HK singer nowadays SUCKS!!!

[easonyip]

go fuck urself!!!!!! bitch aesoph42425

[easonyip]

well icy1141105 go fuck ur mum asshole!!!!!

[jcyl141104]

angry? LOL!

[aesoph42425]

they should be , lol

[windydepression]

AGREE AR~!!!

[milkiwei]

我也對香港的entertainment industry 覺得失望。。。 現在反而臺灣的歌手也比他們好極了。

[xQAnqelxD]

i so agree with you. but hopefully hk entertainment industry will get better one day.

[orz0430]

台灣歌手一直比香港歌手好阿

[h3ll4org3]

yeap, unfortunately

[lokutube]

就算係今日，　香港的樂壇也不是很多好的歌手．　好的，　只有那幾個．　希望香港未來有更多好的歌手

[wing0305]

he is so right!!! i think most of the hk singers are only selling their face, instead of music... joey, eason, leo... are so rare!!! anyway, i dun think jay chow is really a good singer...

[samrainny]

I don't agree with you, I had talked to some song composers from pop song industry in HK before. He told me that Jay does know how to make good music. Jay's singing style is unique and that technique is called 氣息. Untrained individual cannot sing his song. Actually Leo is not considered a really good singer compared to Eason, Hin & Hacken if you compare his skill to them. I can easily point out 2 problems from Leo. People said Leo is good because many other singers suck, isn't it sad?

[sarahngawan]

i dont agree with the part that you said jay is not good. He is soooo talented in everything. writing numerous pieces of song, playing piano fabulously, even for being a director and many more

if not leah dizon wont be his fan even though she doesnt understand nothing of his songs. his music is good!

[bankydoi]

i think the situation is better these few years

we get singers who can sing, and singers who can compose

yea but it was pretty bad at around 2003 i still recall =(

[gonsalez1979]

神哥講到好中point

[cartje88]

i so agree - nowadays there are songs about anything! crap lyrics n voices! Basically its a waste of money to launch out albums for some singers!

[ykmsp]

HK needs someone who is unique and heavyweight enough to lead the way, like how Jay had done it for the Taiwan music industry.

[YuenYun]

Haha aw, he seemed kinda impatient. But he has a point.

[life1992]

So he's like talking about the Cookies or someth'ing?

[loungegirl]

Sure, and Twins... lol

[chrischris1206]

he was so right to be honest