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  • fuck it is p2p

    fuck all

    fuck you all

    fuck

  • Is there a game similar to this where you play "naval" battles, but its not "rpg"?!

    Liek a pirategame or something.

  • @Superviruset Pirates of the Burning Sea was a pretty good mmo that came out a few years ago. I dunno if its still going or not, but the ship battles were amazing.

  • @Erithis PoBS is F2P now if you didn't know, so you can play most of the game for free now :)

  • LOVE IT !

  • Is Darkfall a one-time pay thing, like guild wars, or is it P2P?

  • @JelLoSnArK

    15 dollers a month

    more then worth it ;)

  • it all looks like warriers archers or mages, not rilly a stelth class or anything

  • @MasterPeptobizmall lol if there have been stealth in this game i would quit

  • wow has more players than any other rpg cause you can pay money for better gear, cant lose items, no violence, and no competition. since the majority of gamers now a days are fags they had to make wow so the masses would enjoy it. now washed up old people that have rel life money to blow on games can ruin it for the real gamers. wow is probably the worst thing that could ever happrn to mmorpg's.

  • the trailer thing looks so epic i think i might play this

  • Shit its just like another wow but its not free im sticking with WOW and this is used with realmcrafter WOW Was hand coded so ik its better

  • @Perfectsinn Well this game doesn't have targeting. You press a mouse button to swing your weapon, you switch weapons like a traditional FPS style game. (like going between ranged, melee and magic) So yes, you can accidentally strike your team mates in that bloody combat. That's why you see the orc run in and out, cuz his weapon is huge, and he doesn't want to hit his team mates too.

  • @ThyPoetSkit what my clan does for magic and archery is if you hit them, you heal them, teammates that is, there is no chasing spells, spells go straight and archery you have to ARCH, melee is...melee

  • dont shit about wow, wow is just another copy of lineage so STFU! ! !

  • you are sinking ship for over 1000k!

  • whata fuck

    i just found out u have to pay about 50 bucks to play this fucking game!!

  • pirats¡¡¡¡¡ it is rly so funny ... i hate the pirats XD, but make the live more interesting

  • i was playing darkfall but i was going to try WoW with my friends but afther a week of WoW i got tierd of it. And i went back to darkfall agein. Wow is so boring you cant do anything only levling all the time and doing quest and instances. and pvp om wow is so boring. and if anyone is running afther you on wow you dont get the same fealing as in darkfall. because on wow you dont lose anything so its nothing to be afraid of.

  • This game is fucking great Mortal online copyed it

  • spam fail

  • They still need to upgrade the graphics in this, not to sound like a graphics-whore, cos I'm not! I'm just saying the game would be so much better if it did actually have better graphics too, man this game's graphics looks almost worse than WoW.

  • this game is good :) just takes a while to be good, can somone please tell me the name of the first ship raided on this vid

  • I really liked the concept of this whole game when i read it.

    I've been waiting for ages for it to come out. Yet i'm told it's awful. Is this true?

  • those alfars ownd them

  • 3:24 :O, casting in infernal armor? That's crazy.

    XD

  • this game's graphic are fukin garbage, it studders ,is squarish, uneven and movements are just as crappy ...all characters move like stuck up robots .... nice try but hell no.

  • @yessirsir graphics aren't everything even a game with the best graphics in the universe can be garbage if the gameplay sucks

  • The idea of the game is great. But the 3d designs, animations, movements, visual and sound effects, are all miserable with no exceptions. They make the game look like 8 years old. The whole artistic side is not enough evolved, that's sad for these who sense it like me.. : / But at least, I hope that the game runs smoothly at a bigger variety of computers with these simple (and poor) visual effects (you know, it's a massive game!).

  • i hate this game and almost every western rpg/mmorpg... they all look like ugly pieces of shit, with no story and gameplay except grinding... but cmon ppl. this game DorkFail sucks bad but still look Awesome compared to World of Warcraft Kindergarden cartoon game... i mean, why this game don't have 5 000 000 subscribers? WoW suck, WoW is ugly and overrated. WoW have only endless grinding and no strory line or meaningfull quests and still Darkfail is hated mostly . i mean why? this game is better

  • your an idiot, wow has a ton of storyline to it, its just mostly from warcraft 1, 2 and 3. theres more to a game than graphics, and the reason WoW is so cartoon like is because its predecessor, WC3, was really toony.

  • @iron77mike77

    hey faggot i just stated the fact that ALL western rpg games suck ass. demon's souls is the best rpg of the year, and DS is produced mainly by asians... Dragon Age sucks sooooo bad... Final Fantasy 13 is completelly linear, but the good story and GRAPHICS (every western rpg look like piece of sticky ugly shit) made this game best-seller.,.. dragon age is just another nail in western rpgs coffin. only retards pla western MMORPG ;) they are all UGLY and endless grinders. pure shit!

  • thats why WoW has more players than any other MMO, right? just because asians can make aesthetically pleasing games doesnt mean those games are the best. i'm not saying that im defending western MMO's, i've played a few and WoW is the only one i like so far, but you can't say WoW is a shitty game, its the leading MMO

  • @iron77mike77

    WoW is a good game, but calling it the "leading MMO" has no actual bearing on quality. Don't take refuge in the false security of consensus.

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  • @mwtillotson wow has 60&+ of MMO population so it is safe to say it is the leading MMO Currently

  • @christophercraig193

    I never said it wasn't the leading MMO--reread my comment. I'm undermining the insinuation that popularity is interchangeable with quality--a sentiment that I believe iron77mike77 was making.

  • @iron77mike77 leading mmo, cuz so many KIDS like it, i dont know anyone under 17 that plays this game, i will probly find someone, but still, i know alot of people and help run a clan, so hush, play this game for 2 months, and actually play, dont just stand there and talk shit, try it out, youll love it, i used to play wow, fucking gay ass game

  • @awesomeskatevids i played darkfall for a few months and its nothing but grinding. i'm sure its fun as fuck when you have a high end character but it takes forever to get there. its also extremely broken. wow is the best mmo on the market. most other mmo's are just crappy wow clones that dont quite seem to get it right and some games, like darkfall, try to change it up and get pretty creative but theres still lots wrong with the game. and dont say only kids play wow, theres more adults than kids

  • @iron77mike77 well all i saw on wow was kids, and darkfall is nothing like wow, alot of mmos are alike, because thats what people like, theyre not just gonna make it a shitty game just because its a little like wow, you should be happy the producers modeled a game after wow, and it is better to most, and wow is unrealistic, i mean, magic spells that chase you??? i mean its an unrealistic game anyways, they all are, but they try to make it seem as worldlike as possible, but no, chasing spells, OP

  • @awesomeskatevids i might play darkfall but i am 13 lol

  • @ComputerAddict100 doesnt matter, and i have met a 9 year old online once...kid sucked bawls and thought he was cool...try not to be that kid and just have fun maybe ill kill you someday :P

  • @awesomeskatevids haha never know i could be the one to kill you

  • @iron77mike77 WoW is well polished and a lot of money was thrown at it. It was also well advertised. DarkFall had so little advertisement it was hilarious, and unfortunately advertisement can make or break a game in the beginning. Age of Conan didn't sell enough pre-releases and thus didn't have the funding to polish their game, neither did Mortal Online or DarkFall. DarkFall was far more successful than these other 2 though. had they advertised...weellll... who knows?

  • @ThyPoetSkit notlittle advertising, its a game from EU, so it was advertised over there, if youre a gamer you wouldve heard of it, every game review sight i go to...front page is DFO, and its a good game, you guys just have no patience, theres no level of skill thats public, and there magic that actually takes aim, if DFO has no advertisement..how come they have to keep expanding it for all the new players? lol theres not even enough houses to go around

  • @awesomeskatevids The hell you talking about, I play DFO, lol. I just think the player base could use some expanding via a little advertisement. I know all about DFO, I've been playing it for years. O_o And I don't care about EU advertisement, not every american gamer searches random MMORPG lists my friend. Most of them are all streamlined, and read gaming magazines.

  • @ThyPoetSkit years...its only been out for like 2 years, if that, and only maybe a year on NA1 server

  • @iron77mike77 I've played WoW since the day it came out and it is a shitty game, It was fun until blizzard started consistently appealing to the lowest common denominator. Twilight has sold the most books in a long time, It is obviously better than every other book AMIRITE?

  • oh and since you said all western RPG's, i should add that Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind by Bethesda is by far the greatest MMO i have ever played

  • I meant RPG, not MMO when i was talking about Morrowind.

  • way to be such a bad ass... calling him a faggot definitely made you look smart. If you take graphics as what makes a game good, gtfo. MMOs dont need to be visually appealing to be good.

  • rofl wow has no story line? thats a fail in a half. Wow has such an intricate story line, its just people like you who dont pay attention to it. And from what i heard all this game is is pvp grinding (a friend plays it).

  • @Noth2442 dont play mmos for storyline. its utterly dumb and useless ;-) darkfall ftw

  • @SinanDira Sorry but did you even play ? of course this game is not a Crysis to but the world is very nice and well desgined. Also animations/sound were reworked ages ago

  • Right, most of 3d designs (except the ships, which I first time placed my opinion on) are well detailed, which make them incompatible with these poor effects.. :/ anyway, my judgement is false if the effects in this video are out dated.

  • i am now patching the 10 day trial :)) i am going to see the game in some hours :))

  • Is there a free trial?? How the God?

  • rofl how much do you have to pay to get a ship like that?

    i so want this game

  • Tasos Flambouras needs to go back to ITT Tech and tighten up those graphics.

  • The animations look horrible >_>

  • 1-Alpha testing style video

    2-Its an MMO, Built ground up for large scale battles without the need for a "super computer"

    It wont be dragon age.

  • even though it looks the same now?? :P yeah okay

  • i love how the orcs and the wolfs are the most brutal races in this video

  • looks epic but is totally inaccurate, of course they don't show any players using cheap as hell AOE magic, totally ruined the game, AOE needs to be nerfed ASAP

  • @strikerdod

    Good news, they're nerfing aoes, and making it so it can't damage through walls anymore

  • I cant wait to get my first ship with guns. It'll be cooler much later in the game when more ppl have ships and there'll be more naval battles and pirates.

  • doesnt look too great to me..

  • i ad some of those fights already.. but they r too seldom !

  • BTW! take not of that during the 3+ months of Darkfall´s open servers, there have been 0 of these ship fights..

  • ships are expensive

  • Has it been released in EU yet? :)

  • OMG you guys are dumb this game is in version 1.0.37 its not in beta, it just released its first expnsion how many games in beta do that none. its released they got a new site and a prettymuch new game.

    Welcome To Darkfall.

  • Itll be about $15 a month to stay competitive with other MMO's BUT the fact being the laout of the game (THOUGH INGENIOUS) they tried to make it too "free" as in too realistic in your restrictions. unrestricted combat and full loot need tweaking. there is too much fighting in game, your JUST AS LIKELY to get killed by your own allies as you are the enemy. I like the idea but it NEEDS safe zones and some form of restriction otherwise itll ONLY apeal to a few hardcore pvp gamers.

  • i think the game was made for pure PVP if you want RPPVP or just RP go find a safe island or a place no one will look and start of there and try to keep out of combat but the game was based on PVP

  • True true, and i wasnt implying i want to play rp style games, i was pointing out its too heavily into the death penalties...

    YES it is an ingenous savage and hardcore style of PvP gameplay but if its that loose then you wont want to spend money to get the armor you like your you could loose it all....HEY maybe there isnt much difference between weapons and armor, meaning no need to grind, so yeah that could work, so you dont loose that AWESOME WEAPON you just got to a lucky PK XD

  • Its not that hard to get decent gear. Almost everything can be crafted in Darkfall. Join a clan. This games economy is based on Socialism/communism and it works very well. Example. Clan spends 2 hours Mining Metal/Chopping lumber/Gatering Leather. Those Mats are given to crafter who make stuff for clanmates. Also everyone can do everything in DF so if you want to pick up 1 or more craft skills and make your own stuff you can. Dont wear what you cant afford to lose is the rule.

  • Well...this was an old comment XD...They made many changes to the armor combat system. Im glad they worked it out this way, makes it worth playing.

  • realy realy nice game

  • how is this MADE ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

  • Yeah i understand u dude, in case of RYL sometimes happen but if u play pvp server the game is like neverending xD since the system of RYL is based, after lv95, to kill players from other races to get fame(with certain ammount u get a new kind of level that makes u a lil bit stronger) and medals (used to buy special stuff)

    Also RYL was the precursor of the ASDW fps mmorpgs :) and the jobs are really unique hehe im afraid that maybe im turning a fanboy D:!!! :fear:

  • Anycase i still keep with RYL online :) (2001)

    and Torment private server hehe

  • the game looks badass!

  • Mmm... the movement on battle looks too static and hard... the graphics are good and the system too but they should make a better moving animation

  • its still in beta

  • no its not the game is out

  • no actually its still in beta. Anyone can play but its in debug mode

  • no you idiot the game is released, it came on on feb 25th. so get urs facts right.

  • No, your fucking retard. I've been following this game since it was announced 8 years ago, its in Beta. Anyone who is lucky enough to get a spot on their small server is playing in debug mode so get your facts right dumbass

  • then you havent done a good job you dickhead since it was released FEB 25TH 2009. you idiot,

    they just havent updated the home patch yet, and were not playing in "Debug Mode" were playing on a live server there is patches, there is reviews about it there is gameplay videos of release this is not BETA this is NOT DEBUG MODE its fucking out so you need to go get some sunlight if you been following this game for 8 years and you dont even know that its released!

  • You have got to be the dumbest retard on youtube. The game has been released dumbshit, otherwise no one could play it so stop talking to me like Im saying it hasnt been. The game is released but it is still a beta version, theres still many features that haven't been launched yet. You obviously dont even know what a beta is so fuck off, the game is not complete. There's one server with a little over half the features working, the game is still being developed

  • hmm, so that means WoW is still in "beta" and so is warhammer online and so are most major MMORPG's because a MMORPG is never finished they are constantly updating and changing.

  • omfg. Your so fuckin stupid, I swear. All MMORPG's are being constantly updated but you obviously didnt read the my whole comment or just blocked out what I meant. HALF OF THE GAMES FEATURES ARENT USEABLE. The game IS IN DEBUG MODE. AM I BEING CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU? WoW and Warhammer online get bug fixes and expansion packs. Darkfall is slowly getting promised features put in until version 1.0 is complete, WoW and WH are all past version 1.0

  • .gtfo

  • Darkfall has been released on febuary 25th in Europe, and will be in North America at a later date. Writing this june 8th 2009.

  • i know its been released.. gaarakubo dont though

  • how much does it cost to play? The client and acc i mean

  • you pay like 42 euros for you acc thats like £35 and you get 1month of free play, after that you have to pay 11euroes around £7-10 and im not sure but i think my mum mentioned she gets charged +£1 for somthing its pretty high cost but its hella worth it

    <3

  • it is released and you can buy account

  • The Term of Beta would be beta testing. If a game hasnt reached version 1.0 that means the FIRST version has not been completed. Its in beta testing

    ALPHA testing (first test perios)

    BETA testing (second test period)

    Once they release version 1.0 it is in a full working game mode, WoW and warhammer are well past the finalized game version. NO they are not finished BY FAR because yes theyre constantly changeing BUT beta is a term used for test not full blown gameplay you're half right

  • @GaaraKubo

    i bet you are a very lonely person, lol

  • lol AoC is fun but not that fun no party and the game sucks

  • prettyy true but i think i willstick woith age of conan and not play this cos darkfall isnt bloody enough for me though i love the concept of having ships prehaps when graphics get better ui try it out

  • look at mortal online if you want better graphics

  • I've personally played both this & Age of Conan, The detail in the gore may not be as good as AoC but overakl the game is by far better, And benig updated more then AoC

  • Im downloading DO now, i played AoC too and loved it but endgame found it a bit lacking.

    Im hoping DO will provide me with more of the sandbox endgame i was hoping for in AoC, and those orcs look badassss! :)

  • Cool i take it you finished downloading now and are ingame whats your name? (in game)

  • have you looked at Mortal Online?

  • and the game has graphics but on the pvp servers its only gank fest

  • Please do not try and convince people to play your shitty MMO.

    You haven't even tried DO have you?

    It's pretty damn fun.

  • What the fuck is DO?

  • .....what video are u watching dumbass (Darkfall Online)

  • Vaporware?

  • people that play wow are the people that did not even know what MMO game was. wow targeted 'soft' gamers kind of like what the wii did. people calling this game crap are the kind of people that think graphics>gameplay.

  • Yeah if you are a pussy pve gamer then play Wow because pvp atm just fuckin stupid you dont need skills to become a hardcome pvp gamer in wow you just need to make a fuckin OP class and click on the spell they have and thats it fuck Wow

  • WOW SUCKS okay its that simple oh wait but it has 9million players, that sbecause it is advratized well, people go out and buy , and get addicted, if your playing wow you have never played a real mmo

  • Thats true, alot of people would've played WoW and would hate any other MMO. WoW has been pretty crap (atleast compared to how it was) since the WoTLK expansion. Classic WoW and TBC was fucking incredible though.

  • Though Darkfall is "Full Released" atleast it keepign go server updates and making sure players get the best of the game

    Hard Core Game

  • Im wondering what equipment costs and how easy it is to aquire? i mean in UO you could get a new sword for like 5 gold and a full set of plate for around 100 gold (1000 gold was considered alot of money and anyone that had 10k or more was considered rich)

  • wouldnt bet on that lol

    but i hope so too

  • i'm gonna buy this game when it is released, but i have one question... what happens when you die in that game?

  • you leav a gravestone wife all your loot and every 1 can take it you need 2 be fast back to were you died if you want your loot back =)

  • It's actually released already. EU servers only, but NA can join them

  • It looks like they spent more time on the way the cloth moves in the wind than they did in character movement. Which is really horrible.

  • ...why ever go outside again with a game like this? hehe ... probably wont play it though.. my comp sucks..

  • here are the system requirements

    Operating System: Windows XP, Vista

    Processor: 2.5GHz Pentium 4, or equivalent

    RAM: 1GB for Windows XP, 2GB for Windows Vista

    Graphics Card: 128MB PixelShader 2.0 support

    Hard Drive Space: 12 GB Free Space Minimum

  • yer but thats almost the same as the AoC reqs

    and it needed A LOT more.

    im guessing...from what i've heard from friends and forums.. that this game is going to need a relatively high end pc to run.

  • for play darkfall on low seetings you dont need a big computer but on high you are going to need a god computer but my amd 4x 2.2 Ghz 4 gb 1066mhz ram and GTX 9800 i can run it on max graphics :) i hope ^^

  • "Any use of third party programs which modify or alter the game including cheats, hacks, mods, bots will instantly result in a permanent ban. There will be no appeal. No excuses such as I was just testing will be accepted. We will detect and enforce aggressively."

    learn to look further than 1 post deep,

  • Game will be epic in gameplay.

  • i think the game is realising tomrow :( BUT I WILL WAIT THIS GAME ROCKS!!

  • wait is this game free or pay for? I am kind of confused, excuse my noobishness.

  • lol noproblem and you need 2 pay for it lol it costs in 42 euros XD i buying it it ROCKS XD

  • Agreed with most comments below, This game looks like a new party each day

  • Game release has been delayed due to a bug is why. They are working on fixing it for later today :o

  • weird how the game came out today and there arent any new darkfall vids

  • This video looks nice, but the gameplay videos suck..

  • this game may not look omg amazing .... (animation wise, surroundings do actually look pretty good)

    but just watching this video the opertunity of FUN is on every cornor ... i just hope people dont judge this game before they really try it ... i think the potenial it has is something no other mmorpg's can offer...

  • i hope my pc can drive this masterpiece because ive already given loads of money on games and my pc so the game okay but i am not going to buy other parts for this game

  • all you need is ram pretty much, 4gigs is "recommended" but i rekon if you played around with the settings you could run it smoothly :)

  • animations do look a little choppy hope they polish them up a bit by release

  • I don't understand how anyone can think these graphics are bad, look at the sun shining through those sails at 1:30. That's beauty right there. I especially don't understand it after people have been playing that pile of low pixel count puke that is WoW for so long.

  • Wow has a good graphic style that is done well

  • No it doesnt! wow has terrible graphics because they are so blocky and untextured its all a 2d world that appirs 3d

  • They are not blocky. How is the world 2D?? Ever been in outlands?. Also rember the graphics are 10ish years ago. They dont aim for a photorelistic style, they aim for a fun cartoon style that will run well on all machiens which is why wow is so sucessfull.

  • The reason wow is sucksessful is because its proven to be addictive. using a cartoon approch to animation is not an excuse for bad animation

  • Dude WoW's animation isnt magnificent, but darkfalls is reallly shit. It looks incredibly choppy and blocky, the characters run and move very stiffly, itsjust painful to watch. Im not a wowfag, iv played my fair share of RPGS, this happens to be one of the worst ones iv ever seen in terms of looks. It reminds of those freeware mmorpgs that just have crappy graphix

  • What? ok clearly u are basing your opinion of this game on the grafics souly because you clearly havent seen anything other than these early videos that have bad graphics and quality i urg u to go the website and look at the screen shots before u make your destion on a low quality video.

  • this game has a wide range of graphical settings you are able to decrease the graphics so they look like Runescape, or increase them so they look like Age of Conan, the games graphics are in fact very very amazing and wasnt wat i was expecting

    jst shows how little you know, no offensive

  • WoW is shit, the graphics style is old , the game play is repetitive, the majority of the players are assholes..., the combat system is butten bashing... the opertunity to do somthing other than raid and the same old pvp at max level just dosent exist..

    have fun playing WoW one day you'll be the only person who is...

    WoW is losing more and mor eplayers everyday due to lack of content..

    at least with darkfall you have the chance to make the game as you want it to be not copy everyone else

  • i can't wait to play darkfall don't get me wrong but what you're saying about wow is not true at all. wow is never going to die, i actually looked it up and wow is actually gaining a lot more people every year. wow will never die and it will most likely be the number one mmorpg for a long ass time.

  • What you said "AV have already said its ok you use a 3rd party program to level you char skills for you "as long as you not in a city" is not true.

    Tasos said "Any use of third party programs which modify or alter the game including cheats, hacks, mods, bots will instantly result in a permanent ban. There will be no appeal. No excuses such as I was just testing will be accepted. We will detect and enforce aggressively."

    So do your research better :)And the game rocks!IMO

    greetings Metaalkopje

  • Actually you need to do your reasearch read a few posts back.

    "Anyone macroing within the tower protected areas will be warned once, and then kicked. Repeated violations could result in a ban. Spamming spells or any other disruptive macroing activity within the tower protected areas will be kicked without warning. Repeated violations could result in a ban.

    Unattended macroing could get you kicked anywhere in the world depending on the situation. You engage in it at your own risk. "

  • what i hate about wow is i dont understand y so much ppl play it... i mean do ppl love it because its realy easy or anything? or maybe they love it because a lot of ppl love it...because some ppl love it. i mean what make wow a great game...exept the fact a lot of ppl play it...best thing about blizzard:marketing?

  • Because it's a polished game that appeals to a wide audience, I've yet to see an mmo offer the same level of quality content.

    Main downfall is and always has been (aside for maybe in BC with arena) the PvP.

    The PvE offers some of the best large co-up play as of yet.

  • PvP isnt just a failure in WoW...

    PvP is the epix failure of War... War failed because they actually thought pvp would last...

    if anything WoW showed the world you can't make a mmo based on pvp...

    pvp will only work if once you kill the other player they die forever... but then again who the fuk would wanna play that other than the most hardcore / insane players out there...

  • Agreed, WAR failed with its PvP but it failed on many other levels aswell.

    As for an MMO based on PvP, I'm not so sure. I'd agree with that you can't make one based solely on PvP but I nevertheless feel that it can still offer qualitative PvP.

    MMO PvP needs to feature risk vs reward, if you die you need to loose something substantial. Be that gear, gold, experience or arena rating etc.

  • Its called eve online.

  • eve is a space game sow dont come pare it, is much harder to make a game like this then a space game

  • Eve is boring though.

  • WoW's dying now lol, WoTlk killed it thousands of players are joining WAR, WoW is for spotty little retarded kids.

  • WoW's dying? Hardly, WoW still has around 9m+ players and I'd be surprised if WAR even has more than 500k now.

    WoW made MMO's mainstream and has created a HUGE demand for new MMO's, it's funny how neither WAR Online or AoC managed to meet expectations. Both games were extremely flawed with poor game design overall.

  • AoC had a bitchen combat system loved it. only thing was WAR decided to come out at a bad time thus making everyone from AOC leave. also AoC's end game content sucked due to rush of early release. This is why people need to be patient when games are in th emaking. otherwise they come out all shitty.

  • AoC was beyond crap

    - The instanced world was just dissapointing for a s'posed next gen game.

    - Siege battles didn't even work nor was there any point to them.

    - GM's were utterly incompetent, couldn't even speak proper English. People actually got banned for ganking.

    - There were no quests after lvl 30 or so. No items post 50.

    - Graphics were system demanding and some things didnn't even look that good. Character animations were akward at best.

    - Devs were in denial etc.

  • Personal Opinion. I thought the graphics were alright. Siege battles did cuck. The instanced world was alright didn't mind it. I had quests up till 60's?

    I loved the combat system. I loved pking everyone in sight. -shrug-

  • i have to agree with theflossman wow is dying albeit slowly but it is dying and you know why it created a demand for new MMO's because it sucks

  • 9 million sunscriptions perhaps but to believe that they have 9 million active players is highly doubtful, more like a million probably actually still play on a daily basis, which is good but WoW is not the phenomenon it once was.

  • So what is your basis for saying this? I for one find it highly unplausible that a mere 1/9 people pay for the subscription without playing on a frequent basis.

    Also, why couldn't the same reasoning be made of just about any other MMO?

    Nine million players isn't good, it's THE BEST there is and ever has been. NOTHING even comes close.

    Saying WoW is dead is just silly.

  • Didn't say it was dead said it was fading, which is an obvious statement but you should realize that Blizzard is not going to publicize their declining player base and will just keep touting the 9 million mark they had in their heyday.

  • i have to agree that wow is fading, the game has somthing alone the lines of 10% of its ORIGINAL players left, maybe less now. They keep changing the game to cater to people who game casual.. and the problem with that is.... those people never keep playin the same game