'oh the kid looks like a retard moving about, using 90% of his energy' Shut up. Seen Collins, Marriner or Meyer perform? Guess not. Lovely performance which was musical from the dynamics and tone to rubato. Loved the cadenza! Along with others who watch this video (many of whom hide it well) I wish I played to this level.
I think its quite sad that music people are so harsh here on youtube......there are some really horrible things written on here. and i know. i should just ignore them. but im certain anyone who watches videos like these appreciates good music. and We should encourage people to keep with music. especially this sort. the world needs more of this. I am lucky enough to be playing this concerto with the symphonic band i am in. it's wonderful. your playing is awesome. =)
@daisenseiciccone excuse me i move as well when i play my clarinet. some of the greatest clarinetist actually move while playing and if it bothers you oh so much you can just turn away from the screen and look at something else...
Sounds like a HS marching band accompanying the fabulous soloist - a pity - he should be performing with a professional symphony orchestra. His playing is superb!
It is in fact originally scored for wind band. I assume this is an adaptation. I played it myself when I was very young and cannot remember so much percussion in it....
the orchestra's OK. I know they work hard and all, but I just think all they need is an idea of unity and the feeling of being one entity. Right now, they're just individual musicians.
actually a wind orchestra is similar to a concert band except it more symphonic so there is a chance this is actually a wind orchestra rather than a concert band just so you know
Mature? How exactly does that go? Yesterday, a loud noise came from my pants. Shocked, I turned around to a smell so foul you know that it hurt. My friend, THAT was mature. That thing had been aging inside of me for days, like a fine gorgonzola cheese.
Yes, moving may be entertaining OR useless, but has anyone thought that it may mildly affect the player's breathing, tone, etc. You may move a certain way and constrict an air pathway or something. That's just something else to think about. Plus, I find it distracting. Very distracting.
Bawlsmouth! I love your name. Every single action that a musician carries out takes brain power. So, say it takes 90% of your working mind to make a phrase. But, it takes a bunch of concentration to make the embouchure, breathe, etc. Any extra thing, such as crazy movements like these, take away from your available resources.
So, I agree with you up to the point where you talk of talent. Maybe you meant to add "relatively" to your statement. Compared to a mud pit he is crazy awesome.
O.o It doesn't matter how the person moves, but how the music comes out. Even if it doesn't seem necessary it probably helps him play. Many musicians do that.
I take it back. (about " movement being completely useless)
moving might help you express your dynamics or the "flow of music" better, but should be kept at a minimum. movement not folloing such conditions are indeed useless,
plus, I didn't ridicule DuyTran16 for moving. i just said I thought it was useless, as a advice. Please read the context, idiots.
I hate it when people ridicule musicians for their moving about. I'm not sure if these people are musicians themsevles, but something they should know is that if the playing provokes movement, then for the sake of the music you give in to it. If you are thinking about what you look like more than your playing, then you aren't really playing.
interesting piece, despite 15 years of study, degrees, and artists' diplomas i had never heard it, beautiful tone, legato technique , and phrasing;altogether an excellent clarinetist; his staccato is perfect for he mood of this work.
3. Anyone who does not understand this is clearly inexperienced, not an artist, and is not qualified to judge or perform these kinds or levels of music. People who criticize and nitpick the irrelevant are known as COWS... always MOOing though they have nothing of substance to say.
Real musicians try to accept criticism, not condemn them. What you're doign is committing a logical fallacy of grouping all the "antimoving" musicians as "cows" which is totally ridiculous.
Add to that list David Shifrin, Jon Manasse, Richard Stoltzman, Elsa Ludewig-Verdehr... I studied with all four of them, and they all move in this way when they play. People, it's customary when you're sitting in a band that you conform to sitting mostly still, but soloists and chamber musicians are more free to do what works for them in feeling the music, expressing, cuing and projecting.
Tell your comment to Sabine Meyer or Elsa Ludewig-Verdehr. They would dismiss it straight away. Again... another cow/hack MOOing with nothing valid to say.
I don't think that movement is of no use, expressively, but moving in an artificial repetitive way that has nothing to do with the phrases is VERY DISTRACTING.
1. As a professional clarinetist myself, I have to say that all the stupid, negative comments about this outstanding young soloist's physical movement, etc. are so obviously from envious amateurs and other hacks who likely couldn't play their way out of a paper bag. If not, I challenge them each to post their own clips showing them doing better than this performer. Go look up Sabine Meyer on YouTube; she's probably the finest clarinet soloist in the world, and she moves more than anyone.
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Yeh, like I said before, to play this, you need to be well, white, anglo, with an understanding, this chap has no luck here,,,,,,,..... Please leave the westerners, we know.......They do not..Music ruined......DEAD
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Yeh, like I said before, to play this, you need to be well, white, anglo, with an understanding, this chap has no luck here,,,,,,,..... Please leave the westerners, we know.......They do not..Music ruined......DEAD
People! People! Just because he sucks doesn't mean that he should be ridiculed. When someone lacks talent at this magnitude you should just say "nice job" and go about your business. His movements are because he is nervous. He is nervous because he forgot to memorize the music and realized at the last second that he doesn't really know which end of the clarinet to blow into. Be nice!
Not too loud at all. The balance is just fine, especially considering it is one player against an amateur "band".
I do wish the director would spend more time on intonation with the players. Who knows though, he may have brought them a long way to get to even this point. Still...the intonation of the ensemble is the biggest indicator of the "amateur" level.
For anyone who has performed in front of a band like this,...you then that you do the best you can and be gratefulforthe opprtnty
You have very good tone. I'm familiar with this peice and have played it with my ensemble. Unfortunatly, yourr to loud! but a solid performance nontheless. The band however could use some work. sometimes the idea of a feature piece scares the accompianment into playing to softly and making their tone flat. But kudos to you man.
I think the clarinet soloist is very good, especially for such a young player. He has a wonderful tone. However, the blonde girl behind him looks terrible... She's slouching so much. How does she ever expect to breathe correctly and produce a good sound?
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these stupid people dont know what they talking about. that was good but i can play way louder and better than that. i only played the clarinet for 2 years so boo
Playing louder doesn't make you better, that just makes you sound musically immature, and can make your tone spread making your sound horrible. Playing dynamics and following the direction of the musical line is part of what makes a great player stand out from all the rest that play at one volume throughout the piece.
Music is not about playing a note as loud as you can!! I play clarinet since more than 4 years and I'll never dare saying I'm better than him! He's very talented!
(Excuse me for my english, I may do some mistakes but I guess you won't understand if I write in french...)
Nice to hear some runs. great sound. i dont know how you can move that much. I mean i move when i play too but when it gets to be a lot then i screws with where the mouthpiece is and its hard to play. Great job tho.
The movement is a little distracting but he's such a wonderful player and the movement doesn't detract from the sound or rhythm so it's not a big problem.
About movement of player ,why not if that is good ,easy for him to make a nice sound or express his feelings.For me,a constructive comment for him is trying to eliminate unnecessary movements...About his performance,just say fantastic...
Great piece of music. I never knew Rimsky-Korsakov wrote for clarinet. I'll have to look into that someday. Nice performance; clear, solid tone and technique. My only comment, as others seemed to have, would be on your moving. I'm not saying you should be a rock, but movements of a performer should add to the music; not distract from it.
Very nice rich and dark timbre. Upper and lower registers are very seamless. No cracking, very articulate and technically proficient. Even has quite a bit of creativity right between the modulation. Very young to be showing so much a wide variety of performance and talent. If I had 3 thumbs, I'd give 3 thumbs up. For all clarinet players out there... you make us proud.
Great performance, Duy! When I found the Russian score of R-K's three concertos seven years ago I was enchanted and immediately began to transcribe the parts for my own community band. I believe that yours is the first performance of this work from the arrangement on my Web site. Congratulations to you, to Maestro Marty Province and to the non-music-major musicians at Arizona State University on such a fine performance.
He doen't play so bad for a student...but all that ducking, bobbing, knee bends, and waving the clarinet around has got to go. Let the music move...show boating has never done anyone ang good!
the band is terrible¡¡¡¡
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but the solist is really good.He plais brilliant and very natural¡¡¡It's very good guy¡¡¡...XD
mariGoAsp 1 month ago
I just started to play this on my clarinet.
auroraravenclaw 1 month ago
Wow!
SeanPi314 6 months ago
'oh the kid looks like a retard moving about, using 90% of his energy' Shut up. Seen Collins, Marriner or Meyer perform? Guess not. Lovely performance which was musical from the dynamics and tone to rubato. Loved the cadenza! Along with others who watch this video (many of whom hide it well) I wish I played to this level.
1993allende 8 months ago
Next time without sheet paper :D :D :D Remember, it's a concert.
beckpatr1 8 months ago
The orchestra is terrible...
AndulaS96 9 months ago
I think its quite sad that music people are so harsh here on youtube......there are some really horrible things written on here. and i know. i should just ignore them. but im certain anyone who watches videos like these appreciates good music. and We should encourage people to keep with music. especially this sort. the world needs more of this. I am lucky enough to be playing this concerto with the symphonic band i am in. it's wonderful. your playing is awesome. =)
clarinet111091 10 months ago
Squidward would be proud.
Weaselking003 10 months ago
Concerto with a band? That's interesting lol. Soloist is amazing though.
LauraB6623 1 year ago
Very nice playing from the soloist. I've never heard this performed with band before. I'm glad that the Oliver Seely has made it available.!
nancyella 1 year ago
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cavalierfan2008 1 year ago
This guy has a good tone but he moves too much while playing.. Sometimes it seems like he's dancing ...
daisenseiciccone 1 year ago
@daisenseiciccone excuse me i move as well when i play my clarinet. some of the greatest clarinetist actually move while playing and if it bothers you oh so much you can just turn away from the screen and look at something else...
cavalierfan2008 1 year ago
el concierto esta genial y este autor tienes muchas grandes obras como sherezade
rupertchapela2 1 year ago
Menudo crack! las cadencias están fenomenal
tarukawa33 2 years ago
One of the best concerto for clarinet.... Bravo au clarinetiste... et a l'orchestre. I'll discover your channel with pleasure!! enjoy!
tsaokhi 2 years ago 3
this is written for "military band"...
xav71176 2 years ago
Sounds like a HS marching band accompanying the fabulous soloist - a pity - he should be performing with a professional symphony orchestra. His playing is superb!
5 stars - for the excellent clarinetist!!!
StradMan37 2 years ago
It is in fact originally scored for wind band. I assume this is an adaptation. I played it myself when I was very young and cannot remember so much percussion in it....
MyMusic0201 2 years ago
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very beatiful !
but is this not the clarinet concert from von weber ?
AMAZING ! i play clarinet too
lalyshams 2 years ago
His playing is dripping with emotion.
Terrific soloist and beautiful Concerto which is UNDERPLAYED!
texas45oklahoma35 2 years ago 15
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texas45oklahoma35 2 years ago
the band suck. :-S
and the clarinetist is quite good, I think he needs power in tone.
cammuth 2 years ago
Excellent Clarinetist
shishirth 2 years ago 2
The band sucks.
But the soloist is really good. =]
gymrat709 3 years ago 18
i dont think it's the band- i think it's the way it was recorded... But i get ur point
StupidUchihas 2 years ago
this was very good! great clarinetist!
shadowrun45 3 years ago
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That guy keeps weaving like he's drunk.
Maybe he needs to pee.
CompleteChick 3 years ago
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He moves way to much its very distracting and looks stupid.
symphonyplayer 3 years ago
I kind of agree, not to be harsh, but I really really like his playing!
TheSaxyBandGeek 2 years ago
I'd hate to have to play in a choir like that and watch some else get up and solo like that.The compatition in the clarinet choir must be huge
sutphoe 3 years ago
I loved your interpretation of this piece. I feel that people often play this too rhythmically strict. your tone is outstanding. great performance.
clarinetgurrl 3 years ago
He's like a rockstar! He is very talented, but his dynamics aren't right, he does unwritten rits, and accels. Sorry, tThis wasn't a good.
BTW, the orchestra is just bad.
plasticPlaystation 3 years ago
Too much movement, the band is alright, doesn't fit the soloist. He is alot better than them, and it shows.
RenegadeRevolution 3 years ago
the orchestra's OK. I know they work hard and all, but I just think all they need is an idea of unity and the feeling of being one entity. Right now, they're just individual musicians.
WowDudeFilms 3 years ago 3
It's not an orchestra, it's a band.
woohyunhwang 3 years ago 5
hmm. Ya know, I didn't know they were 2 different things. What's the difference?
WowDudeFilms 3 years ago
Orchestra has strings. A band doesn't.
woohyunhwang 3 years ago 4
actually a wind orchestra is similar to a concert band except it more symphonic so there is a chance this is actually a wind orchestra rather than a concert band just so you know
mrsesky 3 years ago 2
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PLease don't mark this as spam. Speaking of the military, do they have noncombatant scientific jobs?
WowDudeFilms 3 years ago
I want that piece....where did you get it?
MermaidGirl84 3 years ago 2
Great clarinet player! He should just play with a much much better orchestra.
woodwind76 3 years ago
THAT will solve everything!
Why didn't I think of that?
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
It's a band.
lauraandcalin 3 years ago
I just watched this again and I realized that I was wrong. THIS GUY IS CRAZY AwEsOmE!!!!!!!!!
I decided to give that move he does a name. The swoop. The extra big version he does once in a while will be called the Pooper Swooper.
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
Perhaps that move (considering his playing) should be called the "Pooper Dooer!"
oldjarhead 3 years ago
Mature? How exactly does that go? Yesterday, a loud noise came from my pants. Shocked, I turned around to a smell so foul you know that it hurt. My friend, THAT was mature. That thing had been aging inside of me for days, like a fine gorgonzola cheese.
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
sorry, but that kid looks fuckin retarded. im all for getting into a peice, but thats just unnessicary. haha, what an ass!
inturtaner 3 years ago
Yes, moving may be entertaining OR useless, but has anyone thought that it may mildly affect the player's breathing, tone, etc. You may move a certain way and constrict an air pathway or something. That's just something else to think about. Plus, I find it distracting. Very distracting.
But this guy really is talented. =]
bawlsmouth 3 years ago 4
Bawlsmouth! I love your name. Every single action that a musician carries out takes brain power. So, say it takes 90% of your working mind to make a phrase. But, it takes a bunch of concentration to make the embouchure, breathe, etc. Any extra thing, such as crazy movements like these, take away from your available resources.
So, I agree with you up to the point where you talk of talent. Maybe you meant to add "relatively" to your statement. Compared to a mud pit he is crazy awesome.
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
O.o It doesn't matter how the person moves, but how the music comes out. Even if it doesn't seem necessary it probably helps him play. Many musicians do that.
Violaelf 3 years ago
I take it back. (about " movement being completely useless)
moving might help you express your dynamics or the "flow of music" better, but should be kept at a minimum. movement not folloing such conditions are indeed useless,
plus, I didn't ridicule DuyTran16 for moving. i just said I thought it was useless, as a advice. Please read the context, idiots.
dodddd29383 3 years ago
playing has nothing to do with moving around.
If there was a relationship, how could orchestral players play at all, sitting straight like that?
Then why didn't Menuhin move around when he was playing?
dodddd29383 3 years ago
beautiful music, i love this concert and this performance, music matters, physical movement don´t
israelclarinete 3 years ago
Great
knighterrantfilms 3 years ago
I hate it when people ridicule musicians for their moving about. I'm not sure if these people are musicians themsevles, but something they should know is that if the playing provokes movement, then for the sake of the music you give in to it. If you are thinking about what you look like more than your playing, then you aren't really playing.
Cumul0Nimbus 3 years ago 2
I agree whith you..
EduFerro20 3 years ago
interesting piece, despite 15 years of study, degrees, and artists' diplomas i had never heard it, beautiful tone, legato technique , and phrasing;altogether an excellent clarinetist; his staccato is perfect for he mood of this work.
pegasus1747 3 years ago
3. Anyone who does not understand this is clearly inexperienced, not an artist, and is not qualified to judge or perform these kinds or levels of music. People who criticize and nitpick the irrelevant are known as COWS... always MOOing though they have nothing of substance to say.
sonataopus73 3 years ago 2
Real musicians try to accept criticism, not condemn them. What you're doign is committing a logical fallacy of grouping all the "antimoving" musicians as "cows" which is totally ridiculous.
dodddd29383 3 years ago
Ahhhh, the GREAT and POWERFUL sonataopus73 has come down from the mountain to share with us the wisdom of the ages! ALL KNEEL!!
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
Add to that list David Shifrin, Jon Manasse, Richard Stoltzman, Elsa Ludewig-Verdehr... I studied with all four of them, and they all move in this way when they play. People, it's customary when you're sitting in a band that you conform to sitting mostly still, but soloists and chamber musicians are more free to do what works for them in feeling the music, expressing, cuing and projecting.
sonataopus73 3 years ago 3
1. Movement is in no way of any use.
---only younger players(and Americans) move to keep the audience entertined. What's more, pros move with the dynamics. this guy doesn't.
2. Very nice playing. I liked the tone very much. keep it up! Still, I don't know if the dynamics were clearly expressed.
3. I think that's all I have to say. goodbye!
dodddd29383 3 years ago
Tell your comment to Sabine Meyer or Elsa Ludewig-Verdehr. They would dismiss it straight away. Again... another cow/hack MOOing with nothing valid to say.
artdecolv 3 years ago
you people always say people like me are mooing/hacking without reason.
1. I did not condemn the playing as a whole, but you seem to make me look so.
2. Sabine Meyer does match her moving with her dynamics, so se doesn't go into my criticism. (although I would prefer her moving less)
3. Karl Leister and Andrew Marriner rarely move. So do violin virtuosos like Menuhin and Heifetz, as well as Oistrakh.
4. and surely, moving is of no use except keeping the audience's eyes entertained.
dodddd29383 3 years ago
I don't think that movement is of no use, expressively, but moving in an artificial repetitive way that has nothing to do with the phrases is VERY DISTRACTING.
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
As you can see below, I changed my opinion closer to yours. I am glad that I have someone sharing the same reasonable idea on youtube.
dodddd29383 3 years ago
1. As a professional clarinetist myself, I have to say that all the stupid, negative comments about this outstanding young soloist's physical movement, etc. are so obviously from envious amateurs and other hacks who likely couldn't play their way out of a paper bag. If not, I challenge them each to post their own clips showing them doing better than this performer. Go look up Sabine Meyer on YouTube; she's probably the finest clarinet soloist in the world, and she moves more than anyone.
sonataopus73 3 years ago 7
thought it was unmoving.
Gandalfgrayhame 3 years ago
I really thought that was great:D
How old is he?
sarahnavarro00 3 years ago
Am i the only one who thinks the dynamic levels were fine?!?!?! Everyone thinks its too loud :S
I thought it was perfect!
Shame about the Accompaniment band though :P
Loved it very much!! Send more please :D :D
danielwills93 3 years ago
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Yeh, like I said before, to play this, you need to be well, white, anglo, with an understanding, this chap has no luck here,,,,,,,..... Please leave the westerners, we know.......They do not..Music ruined......DEAD
Zippolata 3 years ago
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Yeh, like I said before, to play this, you need to be well, white, anglo, with an understanding, this chap has no luck here,,,,,,,..... Please leave the westerners, we know.......They do not..Music ruined......DEAD
Zippolata 3 years ago
People! People! Just because he sucks doesn't mean that he should be ridiculed. When someone lacks talent at this magnitude you should just say "nice job" and go about your business. His movements are because he is nervous. He is nervous because he forgot to memorize the music and realized at the last second that he doesn't really know which end of the clarinet to blow into. Be nice!
phillipmccrevis 3 years ago
Not too loud at all. The balance is just fine, especially considering it is one player against an amateur "band".
I do wish the director would spend more time on intonation with the players. Who knows though, he may have brought them a long way to get to even this point. Still...the intonation of the ensemble is the biggest indicator of the "amateur" level.
For anyone who has performed in front of a band like this,...you then that you do the best you can and be gratefulforthe opprtnty
LetsReason 4 years ago
You have very good tone. I'm familiar with this peice and have played it with my ensemble. Unfortunatly, yourr to loud! but a solid performance nontheless. The band however could use some work. sometimes the idea of a feature piece scares the accompianment into playing to softly and making their tone flat. But kudos to you man.
xCougarsx09x 4 years ago
I think the clarinet soloist is very good, especially for such a young player. He has a wonderful tone. However, the blonde girl behind him looks terrible... She's slouching so much. How does she ever expect to breathe correctly and produce a good sound?
AAMoose 4 years ago
omfg! it's a little kid playing all that! holy crap!
s4cr3d4c3 4 years ago
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stop moving
you look like an idiot
wakasanosuke 4 years ago
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Sharmanator55 4 years ago
He's awsome!!!!
karand110495 4 years ago 2
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clarinete02 4 years ago
ECCEZIONALE!
ANTICHITASCIPPA 4 years ago
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these stupid people dont know what they talking about. that was good but i can play way louder and better than that. i only played the clarinet for 2 years so boo
powhers2121 4 years ago
Playing louder doesn't make you better, that just makes you sound musically immature, and can make your tone spread making your sound horrible. Playing dynamics and following the direction of the musical line is part of what makes a great player stand out from all the rest that play at one volume throughout the piece.
killingnatalie 4 years ago
Music is not about playing a note as loud as you can!! I play clarinet since more than 4 years and I'll never dare saying I'm better than him! He's very talented!
(Excuse me for my english, I may do some mistakes but I guess you won't understand if I write in french...)
fa11ingstar 4 years ago
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Sharmanator55 4 years ago
Some of you people are way too critical! This guy looks really young, and is very talented for his age. Great job!
heidimj5 4 years ago
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Sharmanator55 4 years ago
Nice to hear some runs. great sound. i dont know how you can move that much. I mean i move when i play too but when it gets to be a lot then i screws with where the mouthpiece is and its hard to play. Great job tho.
bandnerd7891 4 years ago
The movement is a little distracting but he's such a wonderful player and the movement doesn't detract from the sound or rhythm so it's not a big problem.
RebekahElizabeth08 4 years ago
First couple notes told me that you are an excellent player! As for the body movement, it's okay if you move a lot. Who cares anyway :)
rmfotj 4 years ago
keep the body movement appropriate, otherwise it seems unprofessional
poissonives 4 years ago
About movement of player ,why not if that is good ,easy for him to make a nice sound or express his feelings.For me,a constructive comment for him is trying to eliminate unnecessary movements...About his performance,just say fantastic...
danhpham538 4 years ago
exelente pieza y ejecucion
dragonsito11 4 years ago
Great piece of music. I never knew Rimsky-Korsakov wrote for clarinet. I'll have to look into that someday. Nice performance; clear, solid tone and technique. My only comment, as others seemed to have, would be on your moving. I'm not saying you should be a rock, but movements of a performer should add to the music; not distract from it.
maddpianist 4 years ago
the movememts look comical. lol
blizzaraga 4 years ago
great talent no EXELENT talent but the dancing is'nt nessessary tho
OcarinaZeldaman1345 4 years ago
If this were a CD you moving wouldn't matter! You sound great! Congrats on a good performance.
JonRobcl2 4 years ago
amazing!!!!!!! i would love to play duets with you...i am 6-7 tall so we would have to sit down...lol
tallrob11 4 years ago
people are rude! good job!
musiqstudent18 4 years ago
Wouahhh... such a great sound! Well done!
moretg 4 years ago
move naturally. your movement seems quite ridiculous and unbecoming of your great talent.
sonata1992 4 years ago
Very nice rich and dark timbre. Upper and lower registers are very seamless. No cracking, very articulate and technically proficient. Even has quite a bit of creativity right between the modulation. Very young to be showing so much a wide variety of performance and talent. If I had 3 thumbs, I'd give 3 thumbs up. For all clarinet players out there... you make us proud.
jaredzusmc 4 years ago
Great performance, Duy! When I found the Russian score of R-K's three concertos seven years ago I was enchanted and immediately began to transcribe the parts for my own community band. I believe that yours is the first performance of this work from the arrangement on my Web site. Congratulations to you, to Maestro Marty Province and to the non-music-major musicians at Arizona State University on such a fine performance.
Oliver Seely
oseely 4 years ago
He doen't play so bad for a student...but all that ducking, bobbing, knee bends, and waving the clarinet around has got to go. Let the music move...show boating has never done anyone ang good!
oldjarhead 4 years ago
you are absolutely awesome Duy, I am very proud of you.
David
dlpq 4 years ago