@highcountryhal That was the prediction 10 years ago. I wasn't there then. But looking at Yellowstone now, I am amazed at how many big animals the ecosystem can support, even now after several generations of wolves have lived and died there. Too bad the wolves don't take more bison, since those beasts seem to have overrun Yellowstone.
@spelunkerd Actually, that prediction seems to be coming true...15,000 down to less than 4,000 and still declining. The problem may be the buffalo that wolves don't seem to be able to kill but still provide food through old animals dying, etc. That may keep the wolf pop. elevated enough for them to exterminate the elk. Time will tell. Appreciate your comment anyway and respect it.
@spelunkerd You have not been to yellowstone if you saw elk. The only elk you see are the ones in the established towns in yellowstone. Not many left, and moose are just about all gone now.
@highcountryhal Wolves probably will not kill all the elk. There is little chance of that. Without them there are too many elk and the vegetation starts to diminish.
@highcountryhal First of all it's not an elk, it's a deer. Second, ever heard of the ecological balance? If it were as you argue, there would not have been any deer 300 years ago because of all the wolves and bears! Greetings from Germany btw.
@BenjiPrinzBoateng Its an elk.....you are right about the ecological balance...when Lewis and Clark (first explorers) went through the mountains, they found little game. We now have game and would like to keep it. Better stay in Germany, you don't understand the issue over here.
@BenjiPrinzBoateng It is rather amazing when my brothers and myself are begged to go to other countries and try to help people and when there we try to keep our noses out of their business. Why is it that someone from another part of the world knows more about the issue of wolves that we have here? For the record we could not get rid of all of them if we really wanted to, but control is necessary. Watch the video. I would much rather see the elk in my neighbors freezer than in a wolfs belly.
@pcblah Well, I have to admit there is alot of proof that it is the same species but alot would argue that. I would say the wolf they brought was use to killing larger prey. This would explain why they are killing our smaller moose into extinction. I do mean this because there are very few left. Very few.
@highcountryhal well there was a experament in the 1960's... it is not well known but i think its just very hard to fix things when its fucked up... so we should not fuck things up in the first place...
@pcblah You are right on that....I gues what I see more with the park biologists is that they would like to have man out of the equation....hunting as an example. Well, the hunting around the park is about gone now and alot of folks lost alot of income from those elk, overpopulated or not. I know of many people from my area that took trips in years past to harvest a cow elk for the freezer. In the process, stayed in motes, ate food, etc and now thats not happening. Just a thought.....
@legocody1 No, that's a wolf. At my side was a PhD researcher, who's job is to follow these Yellowstone wolves. That Yellowstone wolf population is the most closely followed in the world, and this particular member of the Canyon pack has actually been named by Yellowstone staff. I published two still photos of this wolf in international wolf magazine. To see one of those photos, search my pen name "Spelunkerd" in flickr. Do you really think a coyote could kill a bull Elk? The kill was witnessed.
@legocody1 If you are still not convinced, click on the "video response" linked video, below, entitled "Canyon wolf pack crossing road Hayden Valley.MTS" That video is the same pack, and the first wolf to cross the road is the same one you see here. Watch that video and tell me you think you see a coyote. I know he doesn't look at you face on -- he did so later, while I was shooting still images for publication. He looks small because he's in water and you don't have frame of reference.
It was about 10 feet off the road, about 60' from where we were. This is shot with a 500 mm lens, with 1.4X extender with a camera that has an aps-h size 1.3X sensor. Doing the math, this works out to 910mm lens for equivalent 35mm reach. The rangers had set up an orange cone and we stood behind that.
aaw, theyre so cute when their snouts are covered in blood
Graverobber94 2 months ago
Enjoy watching them eat elk while you can. In another 10 years, there may be no elk left in yellowstone because of wolf predation........
highcountryhal 3 months ago
@highcountryhal That was the prediction 10 years ago. I wasn't there then. But looking at Yellowstone now, I am amazed at how many big animals the ecosystem can support, even now after several generations of wolves have lived and died there. Too bad the wolves don't take more bison, since those beasts seem to have overrun Yellowstone.
spelunkerd 3 months ago
@spelunkerd Oh, I don't know....15,000 down to 4,000 in 15 years......wait 10 more.....
highcountryhal 2 months ago
@spelunkerd Actually, that prediction seems to be coming true...15,000 down to less than 4,000 and still declining. The problem may be the buffalo that wolves don't seem to be able to kill but still provide food through old animals dying, etc. That may keep the wolf pop. elevated enough for them to exterminate the elk. Time will tell. Appreciate your comment anyway and respect it.
highcountryhal 2 months ago
@spelunkerd You have not been to yellowstone if you saw elk. The only elk you see are the ones in the established towns in yellowstone. Not many left, and moose are just about all gone now.
highcountryhal 1 month ago
@highcountryhal Huh? I saw more elk than I have ever seen in my life. Probably more than 1000 animals.
spelunkerd 1 month ago
@spelunkerd uh huh......
highcountryhal 1 month ago
@highcountryhal Wolves probably will not kill all the elk. There is little chance of that. Without them there are too many elk and the vegetation starts to diminish.
gunnerpuppy1999 2 months ago
@highcountryhal First of all it's not an elk, it's a deer. Second, ever heard of the ecological balance? If it were as you argue, there would not have been any deer 300 years ago because of all the wolves and bears! Greetings from Germany btw.
BenjiPrinzBoateng 2 months ago
@BenjiPrinzBoateng Its an elk.....you are right about the ecological balance...when Lewis and Clark (first explorers) went through the mountains, they found little game. We now have game and would like to keep it. Better stay in Germany, you don't understand the issue over here.
highcountryhal 2 months ago
@highcountryhal Thanks for the wise advice to stay in Germany, very nice! NevertheIess I thought that elks have broader horns and darker skin.
BenjiPrinzBoateng 2 months ago
@BenjiPrinzBoateng It is rather amazing when my brothers and myself are begged to go to other countries and try to help people and when there we try to keep our noses out of their business. Why is it that someone from another part of the world knows more about the issue of wolves that we have here? For the record we could not get rid of all of them if we really wanted to, but control is necessary. Watch the video. I would much rather see the elk in my neighbors freezer than in a wolfs belly.
highcountryhal 2 months ago
@highcountryhal ... the stupidity...
pcblah 1 month ago
@pcblah Just because you are not capable of understanding the issue does not mean it is stupid.....
highcountryhal 1 month ago
@highcountryhal nvm i just realized that they released the wrong type of wolf into yellowstone... (its bigger and its a invasive species)
pcblah 1 month ago
@pcblah Well, I have to admit there is alot of proof that it is the same species but alot would argue that. I would say the wolf they brought was use to killing larger prey. This would explain why they are killing our smaller moose into extinction. I do mean this because there are very few left. Very few.
highcountryhal 1 month ago
@highcountryhal well there was a experament in the 1960's... it is not well known but i think its just very hard to fix things when its fucked up... so we should not fuck things up in the first place...
pcblah 1 month ago
@pcblah You are right on that....I gues what I see more with the park biologists is that they would like to have man out of the equation....hunting as an example. Well, the hunting around the park is about gone now and alot of folks lost alot of income from those elk, overpopulated or not. I know of many people from my area that took trips in years past to harvest a cow elk for the freezer. In the process, stayed in motes, ate food, etc and now thats not happening. Just a thought.....
highcountryhal 1 month ago
@highcountryhal nvm again it turns out that they released the wrong wolf in the northern rockies only...
pcblah 1 month ago
nooooooo!
IKillAllWolves 3 months ago
That's not a wolf. It's a good size coyote though.
rlav2000 3 months ago
@rlav2000 I admire your self confidence, even though, in this case, it is misplaced. Please see the appended links for further details.
spelunkerd 3 months ago
nice vid, a recomended video to me
HydraCelestia 5 months ago
Wow. That is amazing! Big Sexy is related to my little dachshunds. :)
askwoodman 5 months ago
OMG HE KILLED A BULL ELK!! OMG THEY ARE SO HARD TO KILL
spralea 6 months ago
thats was coyote
legocody1 9 months ago
@legocody1 No, that's a wolf. At my side was a PhD researcher, who's job is to follow these Yellowstone wolves. That Yellowstone wolf population is the most closely followed in the world, and this particular member of the Canyon pack has actually been named by Yellowstone staff. I published two still photos of this wolf in international wolf magazine. To see one of those photos, search my pen name "Spelunkerd" in flickr. Do you really think a coyote could kill a bull Elk? The kill was witnessed.
spelunkerd 9 months ago
@spelunkerd Pretty cool that you got your images published in the International Wolf Magazine. Can't wait to check out your flickr stream.
askwoodman 5 months ago
@legocody1 If you are still not convinced, click on the "video response" linked video, below, entitled "Canyon wolf pack crossing road Hayden Valley.MTS" That video is the same pack, and the first wolf to cross the road is the same one you see here. Watch that video and tell me you think you see a coyote. I know he doesn't look at you face on -- he did so later, while I was shooting still images for publication. He looks small because he's in water and you don't have frame of reference.
spelunkerd 9 months ago
@legocody1 Wolves can be nearly any colour, they can look like Coyotes but this is a WOLF!
JJJasmine198 2 months ago
Wow Awesome footage. How far away were you?
PHOTOSBYDRAPER 1 year ago
@PHOTOSBYDRAPER
It was about 10 feet off the road, about 60' from where we were. This is shot with a 500 mm lens, with 1.4X extender with a camera that has an aps-h size 1.3X sensor. Doing the math, this works out to 910mm lens for equivalent 35mm reach. The rangers had set up an orange cone and we stood behind that.
spelunkerd 1 year ago
thats intense
jcskate777 1 year ago