@EvilDarkJackel Read musashi volumes 1 and 2. Then we'll talk. "LOL" he started useing nito about the age of 40. "LOL" check your facts right, kid. "LOL"...
also because is late nobody from kojiro college can chase musashi because it's late and the sun is already set so musashi can retreat safely to the dark night
so, this was the end of the " the demon of the western provinces " Musashi tricked him by getting late, so he could use the sun to blind his opponent.
Correcting. Musashi didn't have a Katana because he was poor. He shaped a longer sword out of a paddel. He was always late for his duels, yes. But he went to the island 24 hours earlier because Sasaki had mercenaries there. He killed them by throwing rocks in their heads. And the duel was one strike long. Sasaki had a much longer sword than usual. That's why Musashi surprised him with a even LONGER sword and useing waki-kamae. He run straight to Sasaki and delivered one strike.
4:46 LOL totally unrealistic What is more Musashi didn`t like the idea of jumping during duel. And I don`t know why is this duel considered one of the most famous in japanese samurai history. According to known historical facts it was fast and clear victory of Musashi.
@mikeiswack That's what they would use to hold up their sleeves. Im guessing cause of the weight of their Kimono they would need something strong like a rope to do the trick.
Musashi carved a sword out of the boat paddle. He fought from a seeming disadvantage on the low side of the beach, but when the sun rose that morning it was soon realised that he had already won the battle well before he had even landed ashore. The sun rose behind him blinding his opponent and Musashi brought the boat paddle down on Kojiro's head, killing him instantly.
The series of books by Eiji Yoshikawa are among my favorites. I re-read them every few years.
@wonphi - If you read the the book on Musashi, you won't say that. He only went to duels he's sure of winning. = The MIFUNE version is a lot better. watch?v=WhbCEi_Aac4 = The two said way too much in this version. In the MIFUNE version, MUSASHI gained upper hand by using 1. the paddle and 2. the Sun [in this MUSASHi faced Sun behind trees, later in day.] That's how close this duel was. Both cut to MEN... The difference in the length between the paddle and the sword was the deciding factor.
Musashi:You fiend! Papa Johns is better. You must die!
Kojiro:Yes, Papa John's does have certain qualities. But you cannot defeat my Suio Style. Origami Itto taught me himself. I will cut you down. Like the thick crust pizza you are. So come on then. Im the only one this good you'll ever find.
Musashi: Something is clearly wrong with you not liking pappa Johns!!
Kojiro: I shall slice with my sword that I have named "Breadstick" Die!
"Hey, that's my paddle! Who do you think you are throwing my paddle away?" Whack! "Ooops, sorry, I didn't mean to hit you so hard. Hello? Anybody home?"
Yea right, like steel can't cut through wood. No wood is as hard as steel. I mean, fighting with a something that looks like a fucking oar ? Fuck that. I don't believe the legends.
@1misanthropist So all the Japanese, English, Chinese, German and Norse legends of people defending others with staves are rubbish? It takes a damn good swing of a sword to cut through a 1/2 inch diameter rod of wood, something that's not going to be given to you in a fight. On the other hand you can knock a person out cold with your fist or with a foot long lump of wood. Look at spears, if it was so easy to knock the tip off them they wouldn't be used.
@1misanthropist : That actually WAS an oar. And actually swords are not meant to cut wood, and doing so can damage the blade. You can block or parry a sword attack with a spear shaft, so long as you don't allow a large force to hit it directly. But this is an oar, a MUCH thicker piece of wood.
@MrLunitunz This is what I was thinking too. This version for TV looks so cheap and bad compared to Mifune's version. Also, how funny they went for an actor that look as close as possible to Mifune. I guess we can see it as a tribute. Mifune Toshiro really is the quintessential image of the Samurai.
the way i heard it was different, that they both engaged in swords each striking back and forth, and musashi was hit in the arm lightly, so as the one who was going to finish him off, he reaches for the oar and strikes Sasaki Kojiro in the back of the head with the oar and he die on the spot... realizing he can kill with just wood as well decides that metal and wood are the same weapon, but with the wood "heaven" helped him, and develops the idea of the use of "life" as wood.. as i know it..
Here's what this scene about: Two men comparing whose dick is bigger in a very dramatic setting incorporating bullshit like "honor" (dick size) and "the way of the warrior" aka "way to keep uneducated brutes in lines" and of course japanese fucked up sense of aesthetics. Fuck them.
@CroissantOrange : You're grossly misinterpreting "honor" and "bushido". Honor has nothing to do with being manly, it is about being a just person. The way of the warrior is how to be the best fighter you can be, whether you are a hawk or a dove.
@Halofreakanoid Well, if "honor" is just about being a just person then what all the killings for? What's the word for "just murderer" in japanese again? And if Bushido is just about being the best fighter than why you need a "way", a philosophy for that? Just buy the best machine gun and that's it. I don't misinterpreting them, you just taking it too seriously, just like em japanese.
@CroissantOrange : LOL, for one, it's not just the Japanese, almost the entire world has an honor system in their military. Even current militaries do. Samurai would duel during peace times as a way of honing their combat skills for possible war times ahead. A notable side effect would be to get rid of as many enemy samurai as possible, though that wasn't usually an intent.
@Halofreakanoid Yeah well, the entire world does have mass murderers, rapist, dictators who use what seems to be honorable causes as tools to control too and the reason military exist is beyond human sympathy so please, everyone does it doesn't make it "honorable". And please, warrior doesn't need "philosophy" to beat the shit out of the other guy. Just techniques and cold blood. Don't use words for the sake of glorifying something down on the mud.
@CroissantOrange : There is a difference between what someone says is honor, and what honor IS. There is a code to honor, and it is based around making yourself a better person in all aspects of your life. And honor is about having order. Without honor, there is only chaos.
You seem to be misunderstanding what a "philosophy" IS. It doesn't be fancy, but in order for someone to become a better warrior, they must have a one behind it. A drive, a passion. If not, they will die to someone who does.
@Halofreakanoid And honor is not about the order but about one kind of order some group of people made up in order to control the others. What kind of honor to obey your parent when they totally wrong? What kind of honor to oppress women? What kind of honor in jumping blindly to death for one dictator? What kind of honor to get hacked in half while leaving your family to fate? It's irrational and brainwashing in nature. And there's no logic in the equation "no honor = chaos".
@CroissantOrange : Again, you are only taking what people CALL honor, not what honor IS. Honor isn't about any of that, it is about honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions. It's not about being blind or being controlled, but doing the right thing.
And if by not repeating the same mistakes, you mean letting these honorless cowards run around the streets in gangs, killing innocent people, then no one has learned. Honor is about protecting the weak, and holding your word.
@CroissantOrange : You simply can't argue with THOUSANDS of years of history. Those that are considered the greatest warriors, and greatest of men lived a life of honor. Your single opinion will not change that fact, no matter how much you want it to. You are a single man who lives only with a modern mind, who are you to tell them how they lived? They know how they lived, and they wrote down how they lived, to tell us.
@Halofreakanoid There's something call revisionism so in the future we don't repeat the same mistakes. This is all mistakes, the philosophy of killing and killing in the name of honor. They know how they lived if they known better. And the funny thing is that the very same thing still going on in east Asia: People are controlled by "code of honor", doing everything to save face and if you lose face, it could lead to blood in some country. This is not cultural difference, it's backward.
@CroissantOrange : And because you DO need a philosophy for becoming a better warrior. It doesn't matter what kind of weapon you have, even in modern times. What matters is the skill of the warriors involved, and a bit of luck as well. The same goes for modern times. I guarantee that you could give a normal infantryman a longsword and let a knight go at him with his bare hands, and the knight will kill the other man, because he was trained to do it, and he was trained with an honor code.
@Halofreakanoid You don't really need philosophy to become a better warrior, or a fighter for that matter, just drive, philosophy is more how you'd try and explain your motivation to someone who lacks it themself. Honour is a code you lay down for yourself, a set of rules you promise yourself that you'll live by, in Feudal Japan and some countries today this code is manipulated to place your leaders reputation above all else, to the point it suppresses your own beliefs.
@psychedashell : You don't NEED it, know, but a personal drive IS a type of philosophy. And to become a Master, is to understand at least the aspects of philosophy.
A part of what honor is, is keeping true to your personal beliefs, but yes, many people there took pride in their reputation more than their beliefs, and constantly dishonored themselves without care.
@Halofreakanoid If by master you mean teacher then yes, I agree. Philosophy may help you understand yourself and your style enough to pass them on to others, but some of the best fighters in the world never stop to think. There's people who use movement to silence their mind, when the body is in motion the mind settles. Musashi was a fearsome warrior without thinking, it was being locked up in a room with nothing but reading to do that made him a philosopher.
@psychedashell : No, by master I mean someone who has mastered an art of war. Anyone who knows a decent amount can teach to a certain degree, but mastering an martial art is different than teaching it.
You seem to misunderstand the POINT of philosophy in fighting and WHEN it is used. It is not actively used IN a fight, it is merely used to help spiritually hone yourself and your techniques. Your philosophy can be simply or complex, but it shapes who you are as a fighter.
@Halofreakanoid So you're saying 'attack, attack, attack' might be viewed as a philosophy, 'think less do more' and 'Not having a strategy is the best strategy'?
@psychedashell : No, that is the exact opposite of what I'm saying. Philosophy is a way to LEARN how to fight, and in which way. If your philosophy is to protect, then your style will be a result of that. If your philosophy is to kill, then your style will be a result of that. These are two examples of basic philosophy that affects how a person fights.
Not having a strategy is the exact opposite of what a good swordsmen does. Any decent teacher will tell you that.
@Halofreakanoid Musashi was a good swordsman without any strategy, simply having better reactions made him more than a match for most of his countrymen. It took a large number of officials to bring him down when he was just a thoughtless brat with a wooden sword.
@psychedashell : You've got to be kidding my right? You must be joking? You've obviously never once even read anything on Musashi, let alone the Book of Five Rings he wrote. Musashi was an EXTREMELY cunning strategist, highly regarded above all else, and wrote of knowing strategy as being something a man must know, and master.
He wasn't just a man with a sword. He was a poet, he was a philosopher, he was a teacher, he was a believer in peace, and he was a master because of these things.
@Halofreakanoid Funny, that reminds me of my great uncle. Flew Hawker Hurricanes and pointed out that luck is the most powerful factor in any battle, fight or match. The most important skill you can have is the ability to capitalise.
@Halofreakanoid Well, yes and no...he only went to warish conditions three or four times and very few people ever tried to shoot him. Most of his fights were one on one style challenges. Bit like Mas Oyama.
@Halofreakanoid True, but in single combat ability plays a far greater roll than in a multiple person situation, like a battle field or a brawl. I'm fairly good in one on one fights, but the ability that makes me good in one on one fights is single point focus. That would make me worse than useless on a battlefield where multiple people are swinging sharp objects, shooting or even punching.
@psychedashell : Oh well yes that's what I meant but didn't imply correctly. It only takes a single BATTLE to kill you. That's what I meant. When it's a duel yes it is really about skill, perhaps 90/10, if I was putting a number to it.
@psychedashell : He probably was able to tap into both, depending on the situation. Perhaps he could be both hyper-focused and hyper-aware at the same time? That would make anyone capable of being quite deadly an would enhance their personal skills greatly.
@Halofreakanoid Hmmm...maybe. I've been stupid enough to take on my betters before and if I knew how to use swords I'd probably be dense enough to throw down a challenge to a guy like that. For some reason knowing I'm going to get stomped has never been much of a deterrant. Knowing I'm going to get cut to ribbons might be though....
You can read a biography of Musashi in the book A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS: A Practical Guide to Strategy by Miyamoto Musashi, published by us. It contains a biography which tells the story. At no time was a steel sword used in the duel, and the bokken was the carved oar. It was long enough that it gave Musashi the reach he needed to dispatch Kojiro. Was it cheating? Yes, but it was not seen that way by the Japanese historians.
yaaaaaaap, the old guy talking to the kid at 37 seconds, is the guy who dose the voice for danzo in naruto shippuden. the dubbed version not subbed obviously
That blow took a long time to register to his head, didn`t it? He smiled, thought he`d got one over the other guy by cutting his head band, then 5 seconds later it`s, "Oh wait, I`ve actually been stabbed in the head- Ugh!" Falls over.
I liked it overall as a dramatic piece, but the fact is that Musashi never engaged in a long winded speech like that. He just jumped out of the boat, ran the rest of the way and smashed his opponent over the head before he even drew his katana. Duel over. But in the biography I wrote for A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS: A Practical Guide to Strategy by Miyamoto Musashi, I point out that this duel led Musashi to drop steel and get wood. He taught his students that way for the rest of his life.
@Antellus1 Most accounts that I've read say he never had any actual weapon with him, other than his wakizashi that he used to fashion a long bokken out of on his way there out of an oar.
@dralter-you are right lol...that is funny lolol.
pinayn8vgirl 4 months ago
these guys were badass
sodafreak2 4 months ago
O YEA i remebre this being told on the history channle! that guy with the wooden sword made a fool out of the other guy and kicked his ass well
xbimpyx 4 months ago
0:35 "Yuri" - yes? " you want and Oreo?" !!
ComradeAlien 4 months ago
3:08 In the most badass Japanese accent ever, "IN A SMALL LAYER CAKE YASUJIRO!!!"
I nearly died laughing XD
420Rokn 5 months ago
Epic!
NY5tillMiCASA 5 months ago
Great language
alexmycore 5 months ago
great scene. thanks for the description.
andwhatfire 5 months ago
The translation is hilarious - wonder what the real translation is ...
HemPat56 5 months ago
how come i can no longer turn on CC?
ThwingFilms 5 months ago
i like hatori hanzo
kovambigone 5 months ago
Celebrate the height of foliage
Under the leadership of Kim
27 killed and packaging
Absolutely one hit
lol lost in translation
olorin1436 5 months ago
What movie is this?
nano3017 5 months ago
3:43 "CUTE!"
Obiwan198 5 months ago
mushahi w the oar. yeah his "heio" is strong has fuuuck.
kingofae 5 months ago
Have no idea what they were saying but I get the feeling that whatever they quarreled over they meant that shit deep down.
oneoctavelow 5 months ago
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at :35
"Sound more like"
-Yori?
-Hai?
-You want me to go to Rio?
Mickr4 5 months ago
i fucking love how tough japanes men talk ... like with their bad ass faces and a fucking epic rough sounding voice hahahaha its fucking hilarious !
chabi3000 5 months ago
awesome...japan is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
jamesmgm1 5 months ago
Men of Honor
GodziraRules 5 months ago
@PuppetRonin Thank you, thank you.
Traskatisquis 5 months ago
has nobody read the five rings?
brodieann 5 months ago
I am an Indian and Yes I have heard of the fight.
Samurai warriors are legendary
Dharmasaya 5 months ago
Do you suppose Musashi was so frequently late as a matter of strategy? Get the opponent vexed and you already have a huge advantage. ;-)
Shinhaquro 5 months ago
@Shinhaquro
Well, some say he was purposefully late so he could escape quickly once the tide changed so he wasn't swarmed by swordsmen, so who knows.
Lolhatestorm 5 months ago
it reminds me the game from ps1, i forget the name . . .
mortdepeur13 5 months ago
Isn't he losing face for those silly knickers he's wearing? Harakiri moment...
Poppelollen 5 months ago
isn;t that actor of musashi seems shinzaemon in 13 assasins,maybe i'm wrong
NazrulSyah 5 months ago
@EvilDarkJackel Read musashi volumes 1 and 2. Then we'll talk. "LOL" he started useing nito about the age of 40. "LOL" check your facts right, kid. "LOL"...
Izerath2 5 months ago
haha 3:45 just keep clicking on it and you'll see whats so funny.
GuerrillaLuchador 5 months ago
Isn't that a plastic headband the white shirt is wearing? Don't think it ws invented then.
gallop3103 5 months ago
I dont understand why the guy of the brown bandana fights at the beginning with a wooden sword (sorry for my ignorance).
classicalfede 5 months ago
@classicalfede It was actually an oar and he used it to get longer reach on his opponent.
ketsan 5 months ago
few corrections:when kojiro threw the sheat away musashi said "you wont be needing that anymore"
and the fight ended quickly,...and i think kojiro died in the duel also...
noasdsaatana 5 months ago
omg, turn on cc with translations
beng316 5 months ago 12
@beng316 "Korean fertility problems but today it"
chromehound1 5 months ago
@beng316 retard? it said "tokyo currency and its index is faling down" in my swedish translation... yeah CC really works...
quezcatol 4 months ago
also because is late nobody from kojiro college can chase musashi because it's late and the sun is already set so musashi can retreat safely to the dark night
Wongtsunqui 5 months ago
Sasaki kojiro actually is more a master in sword but is beaten by musashi the master in strategy it's brain win against brawl
Wongtsunqui 5 months ago
so, this was the end of the " the demon of the western provinces " Musashi tricked him by getting late, so he could use the sun to blind his opponent.
museman007 5 months ago
OMG this is good ,but WTF are they SAYING! O.O
sempaikillerbee 5 months ago
Correcting. Musashi didn't have a Katana because he was poor. He shaped a longer sword out of a paddel. He was always late for his duels, yes. But he went to the island 24 hours earlier because Sasaki had mercenaries there. He killed them by throwing rocks in their heads. And the duel was one strike long. Sasaki had a much longer sword than usual. That's why Musashi surprised him with a even LONGER sword and useing waki-kamae. He run straight to Sasaki and delivered one strike.
Izerath2 5 months ago
ok this is fucking hilarious LOOOOOOOL 4:47 WTH is that?????????
draltar 5 months ago 5
@stevobath Thank you, I 'll be here all week.
Traskatisquis 5 months ago
I lol'd
razt125 5 months ago
4:46 LOL totally unrealistic What is more Musashi didn`t like the idea of jumping during duel. And I don`t know why is this duel considered one of the most famous in japanese samurai history. According to known historical facts it was fast and clear victory of Musashi.
Greyeaster 5 months ago
man he had alot of balls to fight with a wooden sword especially when he had to kill his opponent he must of had to bludgeon them to death
GadOlinium1 5 months ago
4:03 to skip all the bullshit!
EvilBunniexxx 5 months ago
can someone tell me the purpose of the rope around the shoulders?
mikeiswack 5 months ago
@mikeiswack That's what they would use to hold up their sleeves. Im guessing cause of the weight of their Kimono they would need something strong like a rope to do the trick.
PerseusFlynn 5 months ago
@PerseusFlynn thank you sir.
mikeiswack 5 months ago
@mikeiswack - it is to stop the wide floppy sleeves of the kimono from interfering with the action of the arms - like rolling up your sleeves.
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tacfoley 5 months ago
jaja, cualquieraaaaa!!!!1
rolobellini 6 months ago
this is THE samurai fight
luis151455 6 months ago
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luis151455 6 months ago
Musashi can catch flies with chop sticks and cut your headband off with a wooden paddle.
Musashi is the Japanese Chuck Norris.
Or rather Chuck Norris is the American Musashi?
EToastE 6 months ago
Musashi carved a sword out of the boat paddle. He fought from a seeming disadvantage on the low side of the beach, but when the sun rose that morning it was soon realised that he had already won the battle well before he had even landed ashore. The sun rose behind him blinding his opponent and Musashi brought the boat paddle down on Kojiro's head, killing him instantly.
The series of books by Eiji Yoshikawa are among my favorites. I re-read them every few years.
AntiFed1791 6 months ago
@AntiFed1791 in the 80s i got the Novel they made of the Books size of a phone book but good read
stompySharpNpointy 6 months ago
Of course Miyamoto will win lol.
wonphi 6 months ago
flungingpictures 6 months ago
@flungingpictures lol, Yeah, I knew that, but I was going for an inside joke. It wasn't a serious comment. haha.
wonphi 6 months ago
@wonphi
THX.
flungingpictures 6 months ago
Translation:
Kojiro:I like Domino's Pepperoni.
Musashi:You fiend! Papa Johns is better. You must die!
Kojiro:Yes, Papa John's does have certain qualities. But you cannot defeat my Suio Style. Origami Itto taught me himself. I will cut you down. Like the thick crust pizza you are. So come on then. Im the only one this good you'll ever find.
Musashi: Something is clearly wrong with you not liking pappa Johns!!
Kojiro: I shall slice with my sword that I have named "Breadstick" Die!
dragon82a 6 months ago
intense intensity intensifies!!!
amee664 6 months ago
"Hey, that's my paddle! Who do you think you are throwing my paddle away?" Whack! "Ooops, sorry, I didn't mean to hit you so hard. Hello? Anybody home?"
Frisbieinstein 6 months ago
@Traskatisquis hahah hilarious.
PinoyBboy1992 6 months ago
what movie is this from? i want to watch it
PinoyBboy1992 6 months ago
damn...
that looks like sephiroth's sword...
gozgaz1 6 months ago
did any one else think of Naruto when they saw Kojiro's headband
Draco10k 6 months ago
the real fact is.. kojiro is suck samurai!! lol.. does it katana can cut the wood so easy??!!
ricobee100 6 months ago
did this event happen in real life?
fongsaiyuk94 6 months ago
@fongsaiyuk94 Yes. Musashi was badass.
ngdubz 6 months ago
Yea right, like steel can't cut through wood. No wood is as hard as steel. I mean, fighting with a something that looks like a fucking oar ? Fuck that. I don't believe the legends.
1misanthropist 6 months ago
@1misanthropist So all the Japanese, English, Chinese, German and Norse legends of people defending others with staves are rubbish? It takes a damn good swing of a sword to cut through a 1/2 inch diameter rod of wood, something that's not going to be given to you in a fight. On the other hand you can knock a person out cold with your fist or with a foot long lump of wood. Look at spears, if it was so easy to knock the tip off them they wouldn't be used.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@1misanthropist : That actually WAS an oar. And actually swords are not meant to cut wood, and doing so can damage the blade. You can block or parry a sword attack with a spear shaft, so long as you don't allow a large force to hit it directly. But this is an oar, a MUCH thicker piece of wood.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@4:46 he does a super jump? LOL at the sound effects!
archangel777 6 months ago
Angry/serious japanese people sound so funny
HenkeFemton 6 months ago
could anybody tell me what's the name of this film and his director?? Thank you, it looks to be a beautiful film.
alqamah 7 months ago
@aNINJApie Alas, 'twas my wife.
Traskatisquis 7 months ago
i love the facial expressions, too bad the fight was pathetic, haha he knocked him our wirh a boat paddle!
ShakaSamurai 7 months ago
Mifune's version was much more powerful.
MrLunitunz 7 months ago 18
@MrLunitunz This is what I was thinking too. This version for TV looks so cheap and bad compared to Mifune's version. Also, how funny they went for an actor that look as close as possible to Mifune. I guess we can see it as a tribute. Mifune Toshiro really is the quintessential image of the Samurai.
svallee 5 months ago
which clan was miyamoto in?
MattTrezzi13 7 months ago
@MattTrezzi13 Wu Tang
mrrogue72 7 months ago
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Traskatisquis 7 months ago
at :35
-Yori?
-Hai?
-You want to eat your Oreo?
Traskatisquis 7 months ago 115
@Traskatisquis How the hell did you notice that?
aNINJApie 7 months ago
the little boy has the haircut of Astroboy ^^
stranskywalker 6 months ago
@Traskatisquis i Lold
UnknowSoldier87 6 months ago
@Traskatisquis LMAO!
stevobath 5 months ago
@stevobath Still a Fag
Pr0udW0manBeater 5 months ago
@Traskatisquis ahahahahahha
PuppetRonin 5 months ago
where did you get this from ive only seen the trilogy original
Wikipediot 7 months ago
3:45 omg gay taunt. He asks him to mount him lol
Hermoor 7 months ago
@HakujinSamurai : I'm sure they didn't care when it kept the sun out of their eyes and arrows from falling on their heads.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
that sucked
OBAMA5701 7 months ago
Херня, бой с Тосирой Мифуне в 3м Самурае выглядел в разы лучше.
Sam130031 7 months ago
Yeah right.
d01t2m3 7 months ago
the way i heard it was different, that they both engaged in swords each striking back and forth, and musashi was hit in the arm lightly, so as the one who was going to finish him off, he reaches for the oar and strikes Sasaki Kojiro in the back of the head with the oar and he die on the spot... realizing he can kill with just wood as well decides that metal and wood are the same weapon, but with the wood "heaven" helped him, and develops the idea of the use of "life" as wood.. as i know it..
wizardluxas 7 months ago
Boater did more work than Musashi- with ease.
mnvinn 7 months ago
Here's what this scene about: Two men comparing whose dick is bigger in a very dramatic setting incorporating bullshit like "honor" (dick size) and "the way of the warrior" aka "way to keep uneducated brutes in lines" and of course japanese fucked up sense of aesthetics. Fuck them.
CroissantOrange 7 months ago
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@CroissantOrange , hahaha, you are a moron.
loveyoufolks 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : You're grossly misinterpreting "honor" and "bushido". Honor has nothing to do with being manly, it is about being a just person. The way of the warrior is how to be the best fighter you can be, whether you are a hawk or a dove.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Well, if "honor" is just about being a just person then what all the killings for? What's the word for "just murderer" in japanese again? And if Bushido is just about being the best fighter than why you need a "way", a philosophy for that? Just buy the best machine gun and that's it. I don't misinterpreting them, you just taking it too seriously, just like em japanese.
CroissantOrange 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : LOL, for one, it's not just the Japanese, almost the entire world has an honor system in their military. Even current militaries do. Samurai would duel during peace times as a way of honing their combat skills for possible war times ahead. A notable side effect would be to get rid of as many enemy samurai as possible, though that wasn't usually an intent.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Yeah well, the entire world does have mass murderers, rapist, dictators who use what seems to be honorable causes as tools to control too and the reason military exist is beyond human sympathy so please, everyone does it doesn't make it "honorable". And please, warrior doesn't need "philosophy" to beat the shit out of the other guy. Just techniques and cold blood. Don't use words for the sake of glorifying something down on the mud.
CroissantOrange 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : There is a difference between what someone says is honor, and what honor IS. There is a code to honor, and it is based around making yourself a better person in all aspects of your life. And honor is about having order. Without honor, there is only chaos.
You seem to be misunderstanding what a "philosophy" IS. It doesn't be fancy, but in order for someone to become a better warrior, they must have a one behind it. A drive, a passion. If not, they will die to someone who does.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@Halofreakanoid And honor is not about the order but about one kind of order some group of people made up in order to control the others. What kind of honor to obey your parent when they totally wrong? What kind of honor to oppress women? What kind of honor in jumping blindly to death for one dictator? What kind of honor to get hacked in half while leaving your family to fate? It's irrational and brainwashing in nature. And there's no logic in the equation "no honor = chaos".
CroissantOrange 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : Again, you are only taking what people CALL honor, not what honor IS. Honor isn't about any of that, it is about honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions. It's not about being blind or being controlled, but doing the right thing.
And if by not repeating the same mistakes, you mean letting these honorless cowards run around the streets in gangs, killing innocent people, then no one has learned. Honor is about protecting the weak, and holding your word.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : You simply can't argue with THOUSANDS of years of history. Those that are considered the greatest warriors, and greatest of men lived a life of honor. Your single opinion will not change that fact, no matter how much you want it to. You are a single man who lives only with a modern mind, who are you to tell them how they lived? They know how they lived, and they wrote down how they lived, to tell us.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@Halofreakanoid There's something call revisionism so in the future we don't repeat the same mistakes. This is all mistakes, the philosophy of killing and killing in the name of honor. They know how they lived if they known better. And the funny thing is that the very same thing still going on in east Asia: People are controlled by "code of honor", doing everything to save face and if you lose face, it could lead to blood in some country. This is not cultural difference, it's backward.
CroissantOrange 7 months ago
@CroissantOrange : And because you DO need a philosophy for becoming a better warrior. It doesn't matter what kind of weapon you have, even in modern times. What matters is the skill of the warriors involved, and a bit of luck as well. The same goes for modern times. I guarantee that you could give a normal infantryman a longsword and let a knight go at him with his bare hands, and the knight will kill the other man, because he was trained to do it, and he was trained with an honor code.
Halofreakanoid 7 months ago
@Halofreakanoid You don't really need philosophy to become a better warrior, or a fighter for that matter, just drive, philosophy is more how you'd try and explain your motivation to someone who lacks it themself. Honour is a code you lay down for yourself, a set of rules you promise yourself that you'll live by, in Feudal Japan and some countries today this code is manipulated to place your leaders reputation above all else, to the point it suppresses your own beliefs.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : You don't NEED it, know, but a personal drive IS a type of philosophy. And to become a Master, is to understand at least the aspects of philosophy.
A part of what honor is, is keeping true to your personal beliefs, but yes, many people there took pride in their reputation more than their beliefs, and constantly dishonored themselves without care.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid If by master you mean teacher then yes, I agree. Philosophy may help you understand yourself and your style enough to pass them on to others, but some of the best fighters in the world never stop to think. There's people who use movement to silence their mind, when the body is in motion the mind settles. Musashi was a fearsome warrior without thinking, it was being locked up in a room with nothing but reading to do that made him a philosopher.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : No, by master I mean someone who has mastered an art of war. Anyone who knows a decent amount can teach to a certain degree, but mastering an martial art is different than teaching it.
You seem to misunderstand the POINT of philosophy in fighting and WHEN it is used. It is not actively used IN a fight, it is merely used to help spiritually hone yourself and your techniques. Your philosophy can be simply or complex, but it shapes who you are as a fighter.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid So you're saying 'attack, attack, attack' might be viewed as a philosophy, 'think less do more' and 'Not having a strategy is the best strategy'?
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : No, that is the exact opposite of what I'm saying. Philosophy is a way to LEARN how to fight, and in which way. If your philosophy is to protect, then your style will be a result of that. If your philosophy is to kill, then your style will be a result of that. These are two examples of basic philosophy that affects how a person fights.
Not having a strategy is the exact opposite of what a good swordsmen does. Any decent teacher will tell you that.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Musashi was a good swordsman without any strategy, simply having better reactions made him more than a match for most of his countrymen. It took a large number of officials to bring him down when he was just a thoughtless brat with a wooden sword.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : You've got to be kidding my right? You must be joking? You've obviously never once even read anything on Musashi, let alone the Book of Five Rings he wrote. Musashi was an EXTREMELY cunning strategist, highly regarded above all else, and wrote of knowing strategy as being something a man must know, and master.
He wasn't just a man with a sword. He was a poet, he was a philosopher, he was a teacher, he was a believer in peace, and he was a master because of these things.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid And before all that he was a punk kid who got in trouble with the law. His raw talent was why he wasn't executed.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : Well yeah, he was a natural, but a natural can still die young, many did. If anything, he was lucky.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Funny, that reminds me of my great uncle. Flew Hawker Hurricanes and pointed out that luck is the most powerful factor in any battle, fight or match. The most important skill you can have is the ability to capitalise.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : Oh, anyone who's been in actual combat will tell you it's 10% training, and 90% luck. That's what makes combat so scary.
Of course, for some people those numbers are shifted. I guess for Musashi it would have been closer to 50/50.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Well, yes and no...he only went to warish conditions three or four times and very few people ever tried to shoot him. Most of his fights were one on one style challenges. Bit like Mas Oyama.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : While that's true yes, it only takes one fight to kill you.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid True, but in single combat ability plays a far greater roll than in a multiple person situation, like a battle field or a brawl. I'm fairly good in one on one fights, but the ability that makes me good in one on one fights is single point focus. That would make me worse than useless on a battlefield where multiple people are swinging sharp objects, shooting or even punching.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : Oh well yes that's what I meant but didn't imply correctly. It only takes a single BATTLE to kill you. That's what I meant. When it's a duel yes it is really about skill, perhaps 90/10, if I was putting a number to it.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Kinda makes you wonder if Musashi was a focus type or an awareness type fighter. Maybe he actually had the ability to tap both...
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : He probably was able to tap into both, depending on the situation. Perhaps he could be both hyper-focused and hyper-aware at the same time? That would make anyone capable of being quite deadly an would enhance their personal skills greatly.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Pretty scary thought that.
psychedashell 6 months ago
@psychedashell : Quite so, I know I wouldn't want to go up against him.
Halofreakanoid 6 months ago
@Halofreakanoid Hmmm...maybe. I've been stupid enough to take on my betters before and if I knew how to use swords I'd probably be dense enough to throw down a challenge to a guy like that. For some reason knowing I'm going to get stomped has never been much of a deterrant. Knowing I'm going to get cut to ribbons might be though....
psychedashell 6 months ago
You can read a biography of Musashi in the book A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS: A Practical Guide to Strategy by Miyamoto Musashi, published by us. It contains a biography which tells the story. At no time was a steel sword used in the duel, and the bokken was the carved oar. It was long enough that it gave Musashi the reach he needed to dispatch Kojiro. Was it cheating? Yes, but it was not seen that way by the Japanese historians.
Antellus1 8 months ago
y the japanese do almost everything the hardest way?poor boater
fracture333 8 months ago
@fracture333 lol indeed.
Cab0cl0 8 months ago
@fracture333 that is kind of sick...do they like to play SM? you know, do every in the hardest way even when have sex....
jj987987987 8 months ago
correction guys. Kojiro fought every battle before this on with a 5ft sword.
navrenscafidi 8 months ago
cool he has a headband like in naruto lol
cosplayfann1632 8 months ago
How did he kill him without touching him?
redplague 8 months ago
yaaaaaaap, the old guy talking to the kid at 37 seconds, is the guy who dose the voice for danzo in naruto shippuden. the dubbed version not subbed obviously
D1rtySanchezZ1 8 months ago
LOL, I forwarded to the part where they were actually fighting and thought that guy had a cricket bat!!!
mongoingo 8 months ago
7:09 perfect time to be throwing rocks, shoe, or anything else lethal
rejamesed 8 months ago
which hidden village is he from?
13thWitnessLost 8 months ago
That blow took a long time to register to his head, didn`t it? He smiled, thought he`d got one over the other guy by cutting his head band, then 5 seconds later it`s, "Oh wait, I`ve actually been stabbed in the head- Ugh!" Falls over.
He could`ve had a cup of tea as well.
seafireliv 8 months ago
@seafireliv notice the 05:08-05:12 mark, I'm not sure, but I think it indicate that he hit him so fast we cant see him move.
Lusekofta 7 months ago
funny how he rows the boat
IRONxEWOK 9 months ago
Is it just me or is Kojiro hawt?
Musashi, "I'd hit that."
bladeofbattousai 9 months ago
What the hell?? He hit him on the head with a stick? Fuck sake
dnb47 9 months ago
increddibley dumb the bandana thing is funny though
81hildebrand 9 months ago
it would be better if I understood what they were saying
luverbirds12 9 months ago
4:49 - impossible?!
Xanixade 9 months ago
ppl don't appreciate real good trash
ivana7981 9 months ago
this was the most stupidest fight ever, just lost 8 minute and 51 seconds of my valuable time for this shit!!
garudaspeaks 9 months ago
@garudaspeaks Big words from the person who just said *Stupidest*. please die in a fire.
SatansMullet 9 months ago
gawd dam, couldnt the boat guy leave him closer to the shore. he is balls deep in water.
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tasu9 9 months ago
Musashi demuestra su habilidad ya que combate con una madera
franklinandrango 9 months ago
I love how the fellah who is rowing keeps rowing till the other guy jumps out of the boat.
Oh, I guess we've hit ground already...
SaintMichael82 9 months ago 2
HOOOSSSSSHHHHH!!!
SmokeyIvoryWay 9 months ago
I liked it overall as a dramatic piece, but the fact is that Musashi never engaged in a long winded speech like that. He just jumped out of the boat, ran the rest of the way and smashed his opponent over the head before he even drew his katana. Duel over. But in the biography I wrote for A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS: A Practical Guide to Strategy by Miyamoto Musashi, I point out that this duel led Musashi to drop steel and get wood. He taught his students that way for the rest of his life.
Antellus1 9 months ago 19
@Antellus1
Musashi has wood...
LOL :D !
mancamiatipoola 8 months ago
@mancamiatipoola hilarious
hotpopcorncake 8 months ago
@Antellus1 lmao u r talking some shit
metinGold 8 months ago
@Antellus1 Most accounts that I've read say he never had any actual weapon with him, other than his wakizashi that he used to fashion a long bokken out of on his way there out of an oar.
OtakuWulf 8 months ago
@Antellus1 Why did he drop steel?
egarrulo 7 months ago
@Antellus1 actually the duel lasted abut 10 minutes and kojiro was better but fate shine upon musashi
togurotoguro 7 months ago
@Antellus1 You said Mushashi, "got wood". Haha
WMEC38 6 months ago
his hair is so badass
pureintellectual 9 months ago
did that guy just jump 30 feet in the air?
ThePaladonian13 9 months ago
Why do samurai have such loud manly voices. Kojiro kind of looks like a faggot but when he starts yelling I am humbled. MUSSASHHI!!!
87Julius 9 months ago
Terrible direction and ludicrous swordsmanship.
roaringrockets 9 months ago
the sword styles are al fucked up it is bad ackting and in real musagi killed him
13larp 9 months ago
If Musashi was alive he would behead the director.
stefanobc1971 9 months ago
I think this scene's like marmite you either love or hate it. But I can't decide which. T_T
BloodfelX 9 months ago
I will translate... "How Dare you not feed my dog while I was away on vacation... AAARGHHHHH!!"
92keys524 9 months ago
Their eyes must be very tired....
eddielee1988 9 months ago
So all of this just to see Sasaki Kojiro defeated into a faint for just 8 min and 51 seconds? Yes
PimpingRice 9 months ago