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A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.
The homosexual agenda is not good for anyone, including those who consider themselves "gay".
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfully framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@politicalpuppettv it's confusing isn't it. the idea of a gay republican seems almost scientifically impossible. i mean what goes through the mind of a gay person who purposefully seeks membership in an organization that, since the 1970s, nearly wished death on the gay community. the nucleus of the social conservatives and christians is the republican party.
@sooowatsup100 Yep, it's a growing problem when people can't think sensible ideas for themself. This is what opens opportunity for a crazy dictator to step in and take over.
@sooowatsup100 Being gay doesn't mean you like taxes. Btw, let's not pretend the Democrats give a shit about LGBT rights if it didn't get them political points. Log Cabin Republicans predates Stonewall Democrats by 20 years!
@Madfoot713 ohhh, so you're a gay republican; very interesting. how does it feel to vote for and support those who seek your eternal damnation in hell? i've read about people like you. you're like the black overseers in slavery days; you know, those black people who would whip and rat out other blacks for the white master. hey, did you see your friend fred phelps at your latest republican meeting? traitor much? yeah, i think so.
@sooowatsup100 I'm actually bi, and I don't always vote down the party line. There ARE Republicans who don't want to murder gays, though I will say, if it came between a choice of Sarah Palin and Barney Frank, with no other options, I would (while holding my nose) pick Palin in a heartbeat. I'm not saying Barney Frank doesn't care about LGBT issues, but he's a Democrat loyalist. He'd sell out the gay community in a heartbeat if it meant helping the party. That's all I'm saying.
@Madfoot713 name one occasion when barney frank has sold out the gay community and name one time when sarah palin went out of her way to defend the gay community. obviously you can't, but it's ok because you're not really gay so you're just another racist anti-gay conservative republican. you would have been one of those people in the 60s who'd say, "i'm not racist, but i just don't like mlk and i'm gonna vote for southern racists." you have no honor and no integrity and you hurt gay people.
@sooowatsup100 Did I say sold out? I said he would have sold them out if it benefited him. A party is not a candidate and I do not base my vote on one single issue.
@Madfoot713 oh so he would have sold out if it had benefited him? so after spending more than 30 years in congress you're saying that there was NEVER an opportunity for him to have sold out the gay community for three pieces of silver? that's pretty impressive me. since you can't name one time when he did then you're saying that in his whole congressional career he always supported gay people. good, i'm glad we agree that barney frank is a fighter for gay people. too bad you're a hypocrit.
@Madfoot713 oh yes, barry goldwater, the man who fought fiercly against the voting rights act and the '65 civil rights act all under the banner of libertarianism. first sarah palin and now barry goldwater; you just keep picking winners don't you! if you had your way, black people would still be suffering under jim crow and gays would literally be illegal. are you happy with the political company you support? yeah, i bet you are because that's the REAL you; an anti-gay and anti-black hypocrit.
@Madfoot713 ha, so you're just going to ignore his hatred of black people? indeed, goldwater did become more LIBERAL as he got older and he openly REGRETTED his overtly conservative past. the republican party of arizona changed the name of their state headquarters because of his 90s liberalization before he died. hmmm, you might call his late liberalism a sort of repentence; maybe he was thinking about his salvation. maybe you ought to think about yours too?
@sooowatsup100 He didn't hate black people, and no, he didn't regret his conservatism (perhaps you have quotes for either of these...). He would have hated the modern-day Republican Party, but for the reason that they're not true conservatives at all. It's the same reason he always hated the Religious Right. Forcing your values on all of society from on high aren't conservative values, and they never have been. He was a constitutional conservative.
@Madfoot713 barry goldwater was against voting freedom for black people. barry goldwater was against civil rights for black people. therefore, barry goldwater was an anti-black racist. when you say he wasn't a racist it just makes black people want to vote for liberals and democrats even more than they already do. you don't think he was a racist because you are against civil rights and voting rights for black people and so you too are an anti-black racist.
@sooowatsup100 No he wasn't. He was against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but not the acts of 1957 and 1960 or the 24th Amendment. Keep in mind this was controversial for Republicans at the time, and he didn't filibuster against it either, like senior democrats of the day did like Robert Byrd and Al Gore Sr.
I'll leave you to figure out why Goldwater didn't like the Act of 1964. It's just a little bit of research if you're willing to learn.
@Madfoot713 By the way, when people say that Republicans were the party who passed Civil Rights, keep in mind that's the post-FDR, anti-New Deal GOP. Fiscal conservatism isn't racist.
@Madfoot713 you're just making excuses for racism, but you're a conservatives so expect that out of you. oh, and you're a hypocrit to with no honor and no integrity since you engage in behavior that your fellow conservatives condem you to hell for. byrd and gore, sr., like goldwater, were typical southern racists . . . you know, like you are. if you voted against the civil rights act then you're a racist, period. deal with it.
because homophobia is a major vote catcher for the Republicans - that is a fact - & truth to tell - if lgbt people did not exist then the GOP would be wearing their white sheets & pillowcase hoods out in public
There is evolutionary benefit to having a certain number of people among a social population, especially humans. Especially since scarcity of resources is an ever limiting factor in nature, having a part of your population that does not procreate yet contributes to its care and protection is highly advantageous. If there was no evolutionary benefit, it would not be as pervasive in the animal kingdom, and would be bred out.
@davidwatson23 Are you trying to be Ironic? Try taking your own advice. You could never prove that homosexuality is a perversion.
Everyone who knows anything about basic biology knows about asexual reproduction and paramisium. Displaying a lack of this basic knowledge in a biological context makes your given opinions not worthy of repsect. Most people who have done any reading on this subject know about homosexual orientation amung rams and other animals. That is why you are bullshit. Read.
@monokhem bahahahahaha. im a molecular and cellular biology major, and ive been looking for a way to put my knowledge into a comment like this. you definitely put it in a beautiful way. biology and evolution doesnt always make a "better" version of the original. but at least this assures there will always be ignorant people out there we can poke fun of :) :) :)
@davidwatson23 simple.. Homosexual behavior in animals, wikipedia has a nice article about it. But do not fix yourself on numbers. It is appearing in nature. And while lasting relationships are rare, it is part of nature.
@davidwatson23 part 2. Look at wikipedia, for instance. "Homosexual behavior in animals". The references list, point 8 and 9 is where they got their stuff from regarding the sheep. And if we talk about evidence.. What is your evidence regarding: homosexuality is a perversion of sex caused by deep-seated psychological issue? Did the gay penguin had an overbearing mother? In short.. I want evidence that you are not trying to give your dislike/disgust about gays a face.
@davidwatson23 Again, you make a claim about Nature. An unsupported claim I might ad. How will nature proof anything about sex, if all forms of sexual behavior are seen in nature.. Masturbation, Necrophilia... where is the procreation in that? The gay penguins of the Manhatten zoo. The fact that I cant give you overwhelming numbers doesn't mean you can dismiss gay behavior in animals as you please. You dont have to take my word for it though. ----------------> see part 2.
@davidwatson23 And If I sum up less then 15 my argument is invalid? Just for your information, some male sheep prefer other male sheep, even if females are around. And for dominance they fight each other. My point with religion was, that a lot of people seem to use that as a "defender" when they try to explain what their view on natural is. My point is that we cant go around to name things unnatural when it suits us. For me, nature includes all human traits, including the ones I do not like.
@davidwatson23 In nature, homosexual behavior is recorded in 1500 species. So what is "natural"exactly? In nature we do see almost all human traits. What we do not see however, is religion. So religion is a violation of nature? As you see, this kind of argumentation is easy to use against you, and is in fact rather weak. And not being to procreate is just as much part of nature. What you do however, is using "nature" as it suits you. it;s not based on knowledge. How fair is that?
With all respect to OTHER gays, BF is the main culprit in congress for lack of bank regs that caused recession:
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MA Dems like gumbym allowed this; I spit on u & hope anti-Red/pinko deathsquads like Kaibiles (or the Chinese who u owe) execute corrupt gov thieves once USA can't defend itself (inevitable if keep electing ECONOMIC failures).
@davidwatson23 Sorry but this is bullshit. The mere fact that you can walk across the street with your wife and kids, or show even the slightest form of affection in public for your hetero sexual partner, is a display of your "straightness". So we either go towards a society that totally bans any sign of sexual preference, or we give each other some slack. Anyway, you just want to totally ban anything that even remotely reminds of you of "gayness".
I really cannot agree with U or admit with any honesty that [many ] are "bigoted', etc.. On the contrary my belief makes clear that the Savior who called us to what we are & believe does so for everyone in authentic & uncompromising love and perfection.In the book of Romans6, it makes clear that God came to all of us when we were fallen,helpless, immoral & condemned. We were morally bankrupt & confused but Christ died for us then.Desiring to reveal marvelous light of the Creator is not bigotry
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bawney says whats wrong with lickin a dogs penis? Dogs love it. It will calm a vicious bulldog down real quick. Bawney does it all the time. Even gets anderson cooper to try it.
Gay rights, womens rights black rights, white rights......when the left finally decides to read the constitution (bill of rights) and can find me where those rights are directly given to fringe groups and not ALL people then we can talk. Otherwise, we ALL have rights. But new rights by judicial activism mean that anyone can have any right to anything. You dont have a right to be a murderer, therefore you can not make up a new right to justify it. Put your crayons down.
Still, in 2002 sodomy (as in consentual gay sex) was still illegal in Texas. By the way, since Santorum comes up... Google the guy. Go ahead, "Rick Santorum", just Google it.
To a homosexual, heterosexual "love" is a perversion. To a left handed person, favoring the right hand is a stupid thing to do. To a vegetarian, the most delicate and expensive steak dinner is disgusting.
Stop demanding that everyone do as you say, think as you think, and believe as you believe. You are not superior to anyone, especially total strangers.
Mind your own business, since you wouldn't want total strangers to be running your personal affairs. Live and let live.
As a left-wing social-democrat and democratic-socialist Canadian, I simply do not understand this right-wing concept that the U.S STILL hasn't been able to shake off (that morality can somehow be legislated - not only do different people have different morals, but when it comes to something like homosexuality, which to me, is NOT a morality issue at all, why do they care so much who you're putting your penis into every night?)
@ammarios lol, You should ask yourself why someones sex life is your buisness? Why is it the lefts buisness? It, in all out reality, has nothing to do with the government at all, but do you ever ask yourself why the left likes to dangel these people privacy in everyones face? I can assure you that it has nothing to do with Texas and more to do with voyerism. It was only then the left, in Borks nominational hearing told judges to wiretap people having sex -Senator Joe Biden. hmmm ever wonder?
@SuperFifthwheel Very simple: It is people's private business who they have sex with (gay, non-gay, whatever).
However, when you make a PUBLIC career out of condemning gays &trying to make life miserable for people, then it is definitely everyone's business (like Ted Haggard..etc). If it was just some dude who pretends to be hetero but is fucking guys in public washrooms, that's his business...but once you make it a public career, then it's everyone's business when you're a hypocrite.THAT'S why.
@ammarios If It's thier private buisness, then why do you care about THEIR private buisness? Do you think they want you championing their bedroom stories? "then it is definitely everyone's business " -no, its not -anyones- buisness. I could care less if someones fucking someone else in the ass, not your buisness and its not the governments buisness to hand out or obstruct ANY marriage document period. So then WHY are the left so obsessed with mens asses and womens strap ons?
@SuperFifthwheel Are you unable to read? I just SAID that yes, it is NO ONE'S business but their own...HOWEVER, when you make the issue your PUBLIC CAREER, and you go around speaking out against homosexuality and trying to make life miserable for gay people, then it IS everyone's business if YOU are a hypocrite and fucking guys when you publicly condemn homosexuality and try to pass legislation to that effect. It calls your credibility into question. THEY should butt out of people's sex lies and
@SuperFifthwheel stop trying to legislate who they can be with and who they can fuck. If someone wants to pretend to be hetero AND against homosexuality and claim moral authority and make a public career out of it, then if they are fucking guys in secret, it IS everyone's business to call out their hypocrisy because THEY are the ones who made this issue public in the first place. The "left" is saying "stop trying to tell people who to fuck and love, make sure our laws don't discriminate against
@SuperFifthwheel an identifiable group. Why should someone have the right to condemn a certain behaviour, yet when they THEMSELVES secretly practice it, suddenly they're off-limits to criticism and scrutiny.
If it was just someone minding their own business, then hey, he can pretend to be hetero and fuck guys ALL he wants..THAT'S none of my business..but when you make A PUBLIC career out of it, YOU are the one putting it out there.
@SuperFifthwheel If you're gonna PUBLICLY condemn something&try to pass legislation against it, then you better not be practicing it yourself. However,if you're just a politician who ISN'T leading a public anti-gay campaign, then I don't care what you do in the bedroom..you can pretend to be hetero&fuck guys all you want, it's none of my business.Once you start leading a public campaign (especially one that has
@ammarios You seem to be obsessed with gays. Like I said, Joe Biden and many of the left (far more than the right) have been EXTREMELY hypocritical. Don't see to many moral things come from the left side. BTW, gay conservatives have a right to be conservative. It's their bedroom buisness, not yours and they have a right to express conservative PRIVATE views. Ususally they are exposed by voyeristic liberals. And to say conservatives dont like gays, is outdated dinosaur lefty hate talk.
I never said gays don't have a right to be conservative. I SPECIFICALLY talked about those who crusade AGAINST homosexuality (Ted Haggard, Larry Craig...etc) and build CAREERS out of condemning homosexuality and attempt to even pass legislation to make life just more miserable for gay people, then in their private time are secretly fucking guys while publicly claiming moral authority against it. It's called hypocrisy, lying/
@SuperFifthwheel "You seem to be obsessed with gays" ... that IS part of the topic isn't it? Homosexuality. Also, I'm a gay man myself. So, I don't knwo what that was supposed to mean, but that's what we are talking about. You seem to be obsessed with gays.
Also, I agree that gays can support whatever party they want, but to say the right-wing doesn't have an anti-gay agenda while they attempt to implement discriminatory legislation against gays doesn't make any sense.
@ammarios Why did you just tell me you were gay? I could care less if you were and it doesnt mean anything to me that you are. Why did you feel it was important to tell me your personal affairs, wanna know why? Because you are programmed to tell people that your private life should NOT be private. PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LIBERAL EXPLOITATION OF PRIVACY.
@SuperFifthwheel What you just said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I would think anyone capable of reasoning and following a conversation would realize that the reason I "told you I was gay" was to express the importance of this topic to me, in response to "you seem to be obsessed with gays". Otherwise, if it really was some evil liberal plot, I would've mentioned it at the beginning of the conversation.
@ammarios Larry Craig was ousted because he had disorderly conduct in a PUBLIC restroom. Even democrats wouldve ousted any person guilty of public misconduct, GAY or NOT. Its unprofessional and so is telling everyone your sex life. Why dont you read what really happened. Gay was never the issue, what was was he was scandalous. Bill Maher and that fat ass Frank seem to think this had to do with supposed Gay bashing conservatives. Again diluting reality to gain a vote against conservatives.
@SuperFifthwheel Oh, please.That is complete and utter nonsense.His homosexuality WAS an issue indeed in ADDITION to the misconduct. The media pointed out the hypocrisy of his public anti-gay stances and statements.
Had he just been a conservative who liked to fuck guys in bathrooms, the homosexuality wouldn't have been an issue, but since he PUBLICLY holds anti-gay stance, it rightfully WAS an issue indeed, as it undermined his credibility and highlighted his hypocrisy.Same goes for the other 2
@ammarios No, doesnt matter what he said, had he been fucking a women in the restroom he wouldve been ousted. He was unprofessional, thats it. You are missing the point of Bill Maher and Frank, who are saying VOTE DEMOCRAT THE PARTY OF GAYS, dont be a conservative gay because CONSERVATIVES HATE GAYS. Read between their lines. The FIRST gay man to serve in congress OPENLY was a republican CONSERVATIVE named Steve Gunderson, liberals like Maher are full of shit.
@SuperFifthwheel Again, that just simply isn't true. The right-wing's official record and stances regarding gay-related issues like gay marriage, sodomy laws, adoption have ALL been anti-gay.
And actually, I DON'T agree that the Dems are the "party of gays"... they have had some not-so-gay moments (but nowhere NEAR as much as the far-right). I would say the real 'gay-friendly' factions are further to the left. (And calling the Dems "left" is hilarious"... they are simply less right-wing than
@SuperFifthwheel SO....WHAT? The first openly gay man was a GOP...so....fucking..WHAT?
You can look it up. Bush fought to keep Texas's anti-sodomy laws. The MAJORITY of Republicans ALWAYS talk about gay marriage from the anti-gay side. They also talk about anti-gay-abortion (youtube is FLOODED with videos of them). Look it up.
@ammarios "SO....WHAT? The first openly gay man was a GOP...so....fucking..WHAT?" Ya i figured thats what you would say, standard liberal talk. Especially from a so-called gay man. Yes, the first people to liberate gays were conservatives, NOT liberals. Your liberal buddies are just shadows of REAL civil rights activism. You disreguard fact from emotion all to clear, I can see that you make shit up as you go, no evidence of shit, just opinion opinion opinion...........
@SuperFifthwheel Sorry, but the REAL liberation is done through legislation. Just 'coz they had a token gay man does not erase their rather crappy record of attempting to legislate AGAINST the cause.
@ammarios If you think that "liberation" is done through force and coersion, then have at it. I dont think you know the true meaning of liberty then. Laws are force, and if you believe that, then I would tell you that you are on the wrong side of the fence, ESPECIALLY if your gay. Liberty is freedom of tyranny and freedom of government intervention. Last time people put alot of power into the federal govs hand we had legal slavery, sodomy laws, contraceptive laws, you want more huh?
@SuperFifthwheel Anyways, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. Incidentally, I DO want to thank you for an interesting discussion and for being mature and attempting to actually debate rather than launch the ad-hominem (you know how people usually get when they have nothing further rational to say ). So, thanks for attempting to actually argue your side like I attempted mine, without needing to resort to ad-hominem. It makes the actual discussion worth having.
@ammarios Bush was a piece of shit. You may be a Democrat but I'm sure you don't piss your panties over Obama and Nancy! Well, we feel the same way about a lot of big gov't Republicans.
@SuperFifthwheel than the GOP....Otherwise the Dems and GOP are both right-of-centre.
So, are you honestly saying that there is nothing wrong with Haggard and Reker's AGGRESSIVE campaigning and claiming moral authority on such an issue while secretly fucking guys and renting male hookers??
@ammarios I think ANYONE commiting sexual acts in public, gay or not, should be ousted period. Like I said, unprofessional. Unprofessional does not belong in congress, and niether does their sex life, its disruptive.
@SuperFifthwheel That's just the thing. I AGREE with you. I AGREE that anyone committing sexual acts should be ousted regardless of orientation. I FURTHER that point in saying that the attention focused on these particular men's SEXUALITY is well-justified because of their PUBLIC stances.
@ammarios I dont think their sexuality has anything to do with it, misconduct IS misconduct. Wiener, Kennedy, Byrd, Craig, and ANY congressman/woman who commits misconduct SHOULDVE been ousted. Republicans tend to oust people alot more for misconduct. Democrats tend to let it slide. All of those people shouldve been removed from office, however bigots like byrd shouldve NEVER been allowed into congress, but they get free passes now dont they?
@SuperFifthwheel Yes misconduct IS misconduct. Also, hypocrisy IS hypocrisy. Normally , their sexuality WOULDN'T have anything to do with it. But in these cases, it rightfully DID, simply because it shows their REAL stance on the issue which they so claim moral authority and knowledge upon.
@ammarios No, their credibility is out the window with me the moment its misconduct. Digging deeper into their sexuality doesnt matter, because he should no longer be a part of congress, they are history, knowing what he did doesnt solve anything. Also, Maher and frank have an AGENDA here, which is why they like to talk about it. They are nosey BSers who have it out for conservatives and use a few bad apples to get their dumb audience to believe its base.
@SuperFifthwheel The REALLY despicable ones were Haggard & Rekers. Not only because of their public stances, but because they AGGRESSIVELY PUBLICLY campaigned anti-gay hate. If someone wants to be a gay conservative, thats their business. Hey,if they even want to pretend to be hetero but secretly fuck guys that's STILL their private business. But to PUBLICLY go on anti-gay crusades&aggressively campaign..their 'personal' actions regarding homosexuality/their credibility IS the PUBLIC'S business.
@ammarios Part 2: And Maher, if you ever viewed his earlier episodes in the 90s CLAIMED to be a libertarian. Now all of a sudden he is a liberal, wanna know why? Because his audience gets more laughs by being one-sided. He's a liar and a nit-wit to a one-sided philosophy which is popular with the narrow minded hate of religion he so adorantly has, but sits conjugatly in his piety with his Roman Catholic and Jewish socialist. The only hypocrit on this show is Maher, the sellout.
@SuperFifthwheel Actually, I very much respect Maher's evolution of political views over time. It shows that he is progressive and open to changing his views if shown convincingly that he should. He explains it in one of his books. I think I'll take his own word for it rather than yours or someone else's.
That's what being progressive means.... you're open to change when it is needed, and to evolving to suit the current situation, as opposed to "conserving" traditions no matter what,
@SuperFifthwheel When you crusade PUBLICLY against something&build a career on condemning it&lead PUBLIC campaigns to that effect&attempt to pass legislation regarding it(keyword:PUBLICLY),then you forfeit your right to privacy regarding the hypocrisy of your actions with regards to that issue.Now, if you are simply a cons. who pretends to be hetero but fucks guys,then THAT is private. BUT once you PUBLICLY campaign, your every action regarding that issue is key to determining your credibility.
@SuperFifthwheel So, "why so obsessed with gays?" Well, because that's the topic AND because I'm a gay man myself and therefor speak from the perspective and experience of the party on topic, and to respond to your "obsessed..." thing. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever. My sexual orientation is not a source of shame for me, and I have the right to choose to keep it private or talk about it when relevant.Your accusations of liberals are senseless.
@SuperFifthwhee caused so many people problems), then your credibility rightfully comes under scrutiny regarding the issue. Stop telling people who to fuck& love, and we will stop demolishing your credibility.
Our leaders are not leading. They need to put their feet in the shoes of working Americans…. Instead, all they think about is re-election and implementing United Nations Agenda 21 and ICELI. If you don't know what UN Agenda 21 and ICELI are, then LEARN before you vote! It's why Obama did nothing to help US people--Obama wants WORLD redistribution of wealth.
LGBT people, and supporters, who want smaller government, less spending, tax reform and strong defense but who don't hate themselves and want to be treated equally, I don't see why they're Republican. Why aren't you folks Libertarians? The same goes for those secular people with the same views who are tired of religion in politics. Why support those who ridicule, even outright HATE you? If ALL of these people voted Libertarian we could have had a Libertarian congress AND president long time ago.
@docdoom187 I suppose that would be a logical party position to have if I was for all government/fiscal freedoms and all social freedoms- however I am not for the latter. I'm a pro-lifer, I am for more Chrisatian presence in America and I am certainly against the way society is pushing sex on teenagers. I'm certainly open minded socially but I still have much in common with Republicans. Plus Republicans just sounds cooler ;D
@JermzzzyFTW A greater "Christian presense"? As in for the USA to become a theocracy and a "Christian nation"? The same belief that's responsible for taking away the freedoms of people like yourself and degrading you as if you were subhuman? Good luck convincing those conservative/Republican people to step away from such foul beliefs and actions in the name of religion. Barry Goldwater tried and failed. And you see how they banished him from their ranks when he didn't change his political tone.
@docdoom187 Libertarian parties don't exist in the same level of Rep/Dems. So as a gay libertarian, I vote for the next best thing - my fiscal beliefs win out.
@mcconvilleme There are two reasons why Libertarians don't make it like Dems and Repubs. Main reason is people don't vote for them. If you are libertarian-minded, there is NO reason, and there are NO excuses, why you should not vote for a Libertarian. If libertarianism is what you stand for then you should VOTE for those who support it. Next, corporations give billions to Democrats and Republicans, who are BOTH corporatists. Libertarianism would END corporatism, so they don't support them.
@mcconvilleme anyone who chooses to sacrifice their fiscal freedoms for social freedoms (equal treatment as a human being) or vice versa...honestly...they deserve neither one. that's just the facts. lift yourself up in one area, but side with the enemy who beats you down and ostracizes you in another area. Take a long hard look at yourself and what it is that you are allowing yourself to do. In order to change this nation, we have to have zero tolerance for abuses of ANY freedoms.
@docdoom187 Take a long hard look at myself? Who do you think you are?
I don't classify those who don't agree with my to be my 'enemy' - stop being so tribal. It's because of overly tribal people like YOU that anything of substance takes an age to get done.
I can't say that anyone has ever 'beat [me] down and ostracised [me]' that is the most ridiculous piece of hyperbole I've heard in a long time.
The fact is, any reasonable person should choose their money of a single piece of reform.
@mcconvilleme Who am I? I am a Libertarian. Stop being so tribal? I have no reason to be tribal when it comes to this issue. I'm not even gay. But it seems that you and many others suffer from Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the conservative/Republican fascist social agenda. They probably haven't pointed you out personally, but you ought to know how they feel about you and "your kind", as they'd so eloquently put it. As I said before, if you are libertarian you should vote for them.
@mcconvilleme Continuing to vote for Democrats and Republicans who are two sides of the same coin AND bought by corporations, is why anything of any substance takes an age to get done in America! LOOK AT HOW THEY ACT IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW! This nation is falling victim to social and fiscal RAPE because of libs and cons thanks to "libertarians" and well-meaning liberals and conservatives (and those who are NOT well meaning) who are brainwashed to think their party is better than the other one.
@docdoom187 The Libertarian Party is a joke. It's best to have a major party affiliation so you can vote in primaries, and with Ron Paul republicans becoming more popular, libertarians will register Republican. Plus, I imagine the LP has open primaries, so there's no point registering for a party that only restricts you (since major party primaries are usually closed).
@Madfoot713 Uh huh, yeah, the Libertarian Party is a joke. Instead, vote mainstream. Vote for "electable" candidates. Bailouts. Freedom and equal treatment for only CERTAIN Americans. For America to keep being the world police thanks to the military industrial complex. For a broke all to hell tax, welfare, healthcare, and social security system. More globalism and corporatism. Keep votin' for them neocons and neolibs. That's "safe" and feels comfortable. Libertarianism is just way too extreme.
@Madfoot713 If Ron gets into the White House...face it. His libertarian values will be devolved, watered down, crippled, stunted, and mutated into nonconservativism and Republicanism because he will be surrounded by neocons. If you thought Congress is pathetic right now with Obama in office, just wait until you see how they act when Ron Paul tries to put forth conservatism as it was BEFORE the Republican party went to total crap, as in BARRY GOLDWATER conservatism! They'll fight him even harder!
@Madfoot713 Ron Paul, Barry Goldwater, Ross Perot, Murray Rothbard, Robert Nozick, Roderick Long, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman were right. And not a single neocon or neolib...or their brainwashed, braindead, and brainless supporters...can prove them wrong without putting their damn foot in their damn mouth!
I'm with the guy with glasses- I'm gay and let's face it: I like my money. I don't want to have to doll out tons of money to help some uneducated welfare momma who can't stop breeding. As for patriotism I'm for the war in Iraq and am against illegal immigration. I'm still for gay rights though :)
@WHATISUTUBE Im anything but a noob when it comes to political science, Im simply articulating a glaring bias in a popular youtube video. You go tell that to all the people that liked this video.
@MyDormantSoul the people that liked this video subscribed 0probably) to 'gayrightswatch'. Obviously, they have a slant, and this video is exactly what they want to see to reinforce their views. I mean, are you also gonna complain about Fox News being biased? Yes, it obviously is. This isnt presenting itself as 'fair and balanced'.
@WHATISUTUBE Just because something happens to be unbalanced and propagandistic doesnt mean we cant criticize it. Do you not see the countless videos and comments persistently bashing fox news? There are some many viral videos showing fox's fuck ups, and hardly any exposing the same propagandistic hypocrisy of the left. You arent helping, you are instead endorsing some half-baked ideology on apathy. I myself am homosexual, does that mean I have to endorse far left smear campaigning? fuck that
@MyDormantSoul The thing with Fox News is; they present themselves as a news channel. Bill Maher isn't presenting himself as an unbiased news show. Clearly, he leans left. In which case, he's not misleading anyone and going the course. I actually don't mind Fox, I just think they are more ''opinion'' than news, which is fine. Some of their anchors can be royal asses, though.
@WHATISUTUBE but at the same time FOX news is presenting itself as right wing, and as a result, thanks to the hardline stances of Oreilly and Beck, millions are calling them crazy. Its absolutely overwhelming how much hatred there is for the rightwing. How many leftwing news shows are there? Colbert, Stewart, Msnbc, Bill Mahr, CNN, ABC, and the majority of youtube vloggers. How many rightwing ones are there? The much hated fox news and a few fringe vloggers. Thats not even counting movies and tv
@MyDormantSoul It's because leftist news shows aren't so god damn cynical. They actually tend to have their feet in logic...usually. Colbert is great, and does his bit through comedy. He doesn't take himself seriously and doesn't think the world will end and a survival pack is necessary (Glenn Beck sponsors them). No one is questioning their sanity. But when it comes to right wingers, you get some crazy anti-government shit that would make al qaeda proud.
@WHATISUTUBE As a Canadian I can't even get fox news so i really dont know the full extent to their extremity. That said, it still remains the ONLY right wing media outlet, that is absurdly unbalanced, and the fact thats its an insane one makes the situation worse. I've seen colbert and I find that he inserts a leftwing bias under the dialogue, and then when it turns untruthful and propagandistic, he'll hide behind a joke or a pardoy, still leaving the impact of that message on the audience
It is so refreshing to see a republican speaking sense. Ive been 'bred' liberal yet through various circumstances I have developed conservative values, but never in a million years would I vote for a conservative party because of their backwards views. Maybe if there were more conservatives who didnt spout partisan, ignorant, religious tripe so often they might get my vote. Alas, I will have to vote for those PC bastards once more :-(
@rachelabombdotcom right, so you're throwing around an accusation of a criminal offence that carries a life sentence in court and you don't even feel the slightest urge to back up the claim?
Their is no evidence of what you say because it isn't true. Why do people always accuse homosexuals of being pedophiles? Statistically it's straight men are both the highest proportional and overall danger of it.
@OatSharpener Yeah too bad the witness who claims to have been taken down in the basement and named Frank and described his home to a tee is dead now. His last words were "They are after me they want to kill me for what's in this book {The Franklin Cover Up}" He was admitted to the hospital given a room which was where he was found dead the next morning, bleeding from the mouth.
I'm not generalizing I accused Frank, not "homosexuals" but you might want to look at the raw data on those studies..
@rachelabombdotcom I've actually researched these accusations before and have never found anything that even seemed remotely reliable. It's just crazy conspiracy theories you seem all to eager to believe.
and don't gimme that crap that this has nothing to do with him being gay. There are alot of stupid retards out there willing to believe idiotic lies such as the idea gays are likely to be peodphiles and I really hope you're not one of them, as the last bit of your comment suggests you might.
@OatSharpener While homosexual population overall is 1-2% they are responsible for more than 30% of cases where children are molested.
You see homosexual abusers abuse far more victims over time so the data is not being presented truthfully and is creating a false conclusion. Kind of like global warming... er climate change data was manipulated to seem credible when it is not. Try researching past NAMBLA website you might get somewhere...
@rachelabombdotcom The American Psychological Association, The National Association of Social Workers, The American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and The Child Welfare League of America are all adamant that Homosexuals pose no greater risk of commiting peodphilia than heterosexual males.
Their was a study by Erickson et al, 1988 that has often been distorted by homophobes who say it supports their rediculous hypothesis, and Erickson himself has had to come out and explain that it DOES NOT.
The APA has attempted to distance itself from its article about pedophilia ever since the APA was exposed by an organization of psychologists and psychiatrists who treat homosexuals. They are The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH).
@rachelabombdotcom Also, as one last point, I think you'll find that often those who attack homosexuals and are against gay rights are often perverts or closted gays themselves.
Without mentioning the dozens of Anti-gay republicans and Religious Right-wingers revealed as closted gays or nonces, Here's a video by ProfMTH, a man you never want to take on in a debate, showing my point
@OatSharpener Um... Yeah I'm not sure exactly what you're saying, let me guess...
It's ok if the pedophiles are left of center? Because that's how it looks here.
Maybe you didn't get the memo?
Left vs right is a false paradigm and this has been going on a long time because of the game of divide and conquer. I'm smart enough to be able to see past it but it seems you are not.
Barney Frank should be removed from his place on Capitol hill by an educated electorate too bad there isn't one.
@rachelabombdotcom I never said that, I'm saying that their is no evidence that Barney Frank raped a young boy and then had him murdered while he slept in his hospital bed. It's a rediculous claim that no one has ever back up when they've made it and then they always shy away from his homosexuality as though it's not related to these stupid rumors.
and you've made another common assumption, Who said I was Liberal? I never said you were conservative. . . . . . .
@rachelabombdotcom I'm a libertarian, I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative. And while I think personal and economic freedom are equally important to have, I feel stronger on a personal level about personal freedom.
@jstr888 - Shut up. You just want everybody to "think" EXACTLY as you do, you foul-mouthed libturd. This is why I urge you to go vent at Daily Kos or HuffPo - because there, you'll have brain-dead drones who'll agree with every word you spew.
@jstr888 - And actually, it was PRECISELY the public's outrage over being f****d in many ways (namely by tax-and-spend Democrats) that led to so many of them kicked out of the House in the last election.
its odd that you bring up teaching homosexuality in schools instead of answering my question, but thats your right. incidently, this is my sons profile, so congratulations on looking up an underage kid. good look with whatever you do, because it,ll be more important than this conversation.
@TheSnakeadoir - The point is, people of that age group (19-22) are among the most fanatically brainwashed into the cult of moral relativism, cultural decadence and sexual anarchy - which is all tied in to how they nod in agreement with the rantings of a G-dless libertine like Bill Maher as if he's some kind of moral authority on everything in the world - as well as with the radical leftist agenda that Barney Frank is pushing.
@zonedigit That's because having sex with an animal isn't consenting. It'd be like having sex with a child. It'd be like having sex with a baby, they can't agree to it. Now, what two grown people do in the privacy of their own bedroom shouldn't be criminalized. That's the whole point of repealing such a nonsense law.
@MansonFan64 I don't know, I've seen some male dogs in sex shows overseas that looked like they were consenting pretty heavily. In fact, it was the human women I'd have worried about getting consent forms from.
Barney Frank, the Constitution is not whatever you want it to be. Finding a law to be Constitutional is different from agreeing with it personally. I disagree with Social Security, but I don't think it is un-Constitutional. What a basic, simple-minded mistake he is making there.
Does this guy really think Republicans want homosexuality to be illegal? What evidence does he have for that claim. It is a baldfaced lie---one that he makes because it scores points with his supporters who don't want to accept that a great deal of change has happened within the Republican party over the years. It is itself a form of simpleminded prejudice: He is living in the past like an ostritch with its head in the sand.
There shouldn't be a right to hypocrisy? Actually, there should
Does this guy really think Republicans want homosexuality to be illegal? What evidence does he have for that claim. It is a baldfaced lie---one that he makes because it scores points with his supporters who don't want to accept that a great deal of change has happened within the Republican party over the years. It is itself a form of simpleminded prejudice: He is living in the past like an ostritch with its head in the sand.
This Jesus Freak Psycho Terrorism has got to STOP! Shove your homophobic version of the "Gospel" up your hate obsessed ass and let people live in peace. Your "faith" is poisoning American society. Keep it and let the rest of us live without all that pathetic Jazz. Nobody stops YOU from enjoying your disgusting religion. Leave others alone and stop dictating your Christo-Nazi bullshit into everyone's life. Nobody among the non-brainwashed majority wants any of it. More for you!
@marinello6 - By your "logic," then, we should refer to the current alleged "President" as COMMUNITY ORGANIZER Obama (or, at the very least, Senator Obama). Because he STOLE the '08 election with the help of George Soros (both in terms of financing his campaign and in his role in destroying our economy to scare voters into electing him), the lame-stream media, and foreign funny money from the Middle East. And B.T.W., as far as Bush, in 2000 Al Gore ATTEMPTED to steal the election.
P.S. And a few other groups that aided and abetted in Obama's tainted "victory": Illegal aliens and their front groups; ACORN and their surrogates; the public employee unions that are now holding states like Wisconsin hostage with their entitlement mentality; and perhaps most important, the New Black Panthers with their outright intimidation of voters in polling precincts in Philadelphia and vicinity, wielding truncheons to suppress certain votes. Oh yes, and disenfranchising military voters.
@wmbrown6 You are so naive. Do you believe everything you hear on t.v. and the radio? I almost think you are a liberal posing to be a conservative to embarrass them. So you are OK with middle class workers in Wisconsin having their benefits stripped while we keep giving tax cuts to billionaires! You are a perfect example of the success of right wing propaganda you close minded dim whit fool. Have you ever had an original thought in your life?! What a wasted life.
@jstr888 - "Do you believe everything you hear on t.v. and the radio?"
That's funny, I was about to ask the exact same question as you. You've obviously been brainwashed by the leftist CBS - NBC - ABC - CNN - MSNBC - PBS - NPR axis which is at one with government-employee unions who draw obscene pensions while the middle class is being systematically destroyed by socialist Big Government statists. You have completely swallowed all the Marxist class-warfare talking points.
@jstr888 - Let me also quote you from Abraham Lincoln: "You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." Yet what Lincoln warned against, THE LIBERAL LEFT AND THEIR BIG LABOR CRONIES ARE PRECISELY DOING.
@jstr888 - And from Winston Churchill: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
@jstr888 - And another Churchill quote: "There can be no doubt that socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state. Socialism is in its essence an attack not only upon British enterprise, but upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clasped across their mouth and nostrils. ..."
(CONT'D) " ... (Labour) would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance." In today's world, that would be exemplified by, say, Michelle Obama, or Mike Bloomberg.
@jstr888 - And I know for a fact that "having an original thought" is code for "make it all up as you go along." YOU are the failure, because you are FILLED with envy and hatred for those who are more successful than YOU. The majority of Americans back Gov. Walker in his bid to rein in out-of-control spending and put the greedy, arrogant government unions with their spoiled-brat sense of entitlement in their place. Notice how most of the demonstrators have been bussed in out-of-state...
(CONT'D) ...and have been directed and coordinated by Obama via his de facto Gestapo, "Organizing for America," which proves beyond a doubt that he is first and foremost the radical Marxist community organizer he had been in the past. Those rent-a-mobs are the epitome of astroturf. You clearly are a supporter of socialism, collectivism and statism.
Stephen Moore and the wall street journal are a joke. Thanks for outing this fool for his stupidity.
MACKATTACK1970 2 weeks ago
republicans =/= gaybashers...
ask the candidate what he/she thinks about gays, then you will know what they think.
Dethreid 1 month ago 2
Why is George Costanza just sitting there?
winterlandboy 2 months ago
lol man on dog sex
camjammel 2 months ago
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A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.
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lightandbeautiful 2 months ago
Is it possible to be a gay republican really?
politicalpuppettv 2 months ago
@politicalpuppettv it's confusing isn't it. the idea of a gay republican seems almost scientifically impossible. i mean what goes through the mind of a gay person who purposefully seeks membership in an organization that, since the 1970s, nearly wished death on the gay community. the nucleus of the social conservatives and christians is the republican party.
sooowatsup100 2 months ago 2
@sooowatsup100 Yep, it's a growing problem when people can't think sensible ideas for themself. This is what opens opportunity for a crazy dictator to step in and take over.
politicalpuppettv 2 months ago
@sooowatsup100 Being gay doesn't mean you like taxes. Btw, let's not pretend the Democrats give a shit about LGBT rights if it didn't get them political points. Log Cabin Republicans predates Stonewall Democrats by 20 years!
Madfoot713 2 months ago
@Madfoot713 ohhh, so you're a gay republican; very interesting. how does it feel to vote for and support those who seek your eternal damnation in hell? i've read about people like you. you're like the black overseers in slavery days; you know, those black people who would whip and rat out other blacks for the white master. hey, did you see your friend fred phelps at your latest republican meeting? traitor much? yeah, i think so.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 I'm actually bi, and I don't always vote down the party line. There ARE Republicans who don't want to murder gays, though I will say, if it came between a choice of Sarah Palin and Barney Frank, with no other options, I would (while holding my nose) pick Palin in a heartbeat. I'm not saying Barney Frank doesn't care about LGBT issues, but he's a Democrat loyalist. He'd sell out the gay community in a heartbeat if it meant helping the party. That's all I'm saying.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 name one occasion when barney frank has sold out the gay community and name one time when sarah palin went out of her way to defend the gay community. obviously you can't, but it's ok because you're not really gay so you're just another racist anti-gay conservative republican. you would have been one of those people in the 60s who'd say, "i'm not racist, but i just don't like mlk and i'm gonna vote for southern racists." you have no honor and no integrity and you hurt gay people.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 Did I say sold out? I said he would have sold them out if it benefited him. A party is not a candidate and I do not base my vote on one single issue.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 oh so he would have sold out if it had benefited him? so after spending more than 30 years in congress you're saying that there was NEVER an opportunity for him to have sold out the gay community for three pieces of silver? that's pretty impressive me. since you can't name one time when he did then you're saying that in his whole congressional career he always supported gay people. good, i'm glad we agree that barney frank is a fighter for gay people. too bad you're a hypocrit.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 How does shitting on Barry Goldwater's grave advance the gay cause? It just makes Barney Frank look like an intolerant jerk.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 oh yes, barry goldwater, the man who fought fiercly against the voting rights act and the '65 civil rights act all under the banner of libertarianism. first sarah palin and now barry goldwater; you just keep picking winners don't you! if you had your way, black people would still be suffering under jim crow and gays would literally be illegal. are you happy with the political company you support? yeah, i bet you are because that's the REAL you; an anti-gay and anti-black hypocrit.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 Barry Goldwater spoke out against DADT as early as the '90s, and not because he believed in a flat-out ban either.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 ha, so you're just going to ignore his hatred of black people? indeed, goldwater did become more LIBERAL as he got older and he openly REGRETTED his overtly conservative past. the republican party of arizona changed the name of their state headquarters because of his 90s liberalization before he died. hmmm, you might call his late liberalism a sort of repentence; maybe he was thinking about his salvation. maybe you ought to think about yours too?
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 He didn't hate black people, and no, he didn't regret his conservatism (perhaps you have quotes for either of these...). He would have hated the modern-day Republican Party, but for the reason that they're not true conservatives at all. It's the same reason he always hated the Religious Right. Forcing your values on all of society from on high aren't conservative values, and they never have been. He was a constitutional conservative.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 barry goldwater was against voting freedom for black people. barry goldwater was against civil rights for black people. therefore, barry goldwater was an anti-black racist. when you say he wasn't a racist it just makes black people want to vote for liberals and democrats even more than they already do. you don't think he was a racist because you are against civil rights and voting rights for black people and so you too are an anti-black racist.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 No he wasn't. He was against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but not the acts of 1957 and 1960 or the 24th Amendment. Keep in mind this was controversial for Republicans at the time, and he didn't filibuster against it either, like senior democrats of the day did like Robert Byrd and Al Gore Sr.
I'll leave you to figure out why Goldwater didn't like the Act of 1964. It's just a little bit of research if you're willing to learn.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 By the way, when people say that Republicans were the party who passed Civil Rights, keep in mind that's the post-FDR, anti-New Deal GOP. Fiscal conservatism isn't racist.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@Madfoot713 you're just making excuses for racism, but you're a conservatives so expect that out of you. oh, and you're a hypocrit to with no honor and no integrity since you engage in behavior that your fellow conservatives condem you to hell for. byrd and gore, sr., like goldwater, were typical southern racists . . . you know, like you are. if you voted against the civil rights act then you're a racist, period. deal with it.
sooowatsup100 1 month ago
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@sooowatsup100 You're right. Just like if you voted against the Patriot Act you're obviously not a patriot. Idiot.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
@sooowatsup100 Also, Fred Phelps? Wtf? He's a democrat who campaigned for Al Gore.
Madfoot713 1 month ago
Barney Frank is a crazy feminist.
jronzani 3 months ago
Bawney Fwank is a dwick swucker
JawsJaws 3 months ago
because homophobia is a major vote catcher for the Republicans - that is a fact - & truth to tell - if lgbt people did not exist then the GOP would be wearing their white sheets & pillowcase hoods out in public
anthonynewsome 3 months ago
Who is the guy that the congressman is dismantling?
MrHypnofan 4 months ago
00:39 Zing!
asubjectiveopinion 4 months ago
(fuck) BARNEY FRANK 2016!!!
DrPhil321 4 months ago
BARNEY FRANK 2014!!!
DrPhil321 4 months ago
There is evolutionary benefit to having a certain number of people among a social population, especially humans. Especially since scarcity of resources is an ever limiting factor in nature, having a part of your population that does not procreate yet contributes to its care and protection is highly advantageous. If there was no evolutionary benefit, it would not be as pervasive in the animal kingdom, and would be bred out.
albinoman13bt 4 months ago 2
@davidwatson23 Are you trying to be Ironic? Try taking your own advice. You could never prove that homosexuality is a perversion.
Everyone who knows anything about basic biology knows about asexual reproduction and paramisium. Displaying a lack of this basic knowledge in a biological context makes your given opinions not worthy of repsect. Most people who have done any reading on this subject know about homosexual orientation amung rams and other animals. That is why you are bullshit. Read.
monokhem 5 months ago 2
@monokhem bahahahahaha. im a molecular and cellular biology major, and ive been looking for a way to put my knowledge into a comment like this. you definitely put it in a beautiful way. biology and evolution doesnt always make a "better" version of the original. but at least this assures there will always be ignorant people out there we can poke fun of :) :) :)
uconnstudent 4 months ago
@davidwatson23 simple.. Homosexual behavior in animals, wikipedia has a nice article about it. But do not fix yourself on numbers. It is appearing in nature. And while lasting relationships are rare, it is part of nature.
Ranokian 5 months ago
gay Republican = Stockholm syndrome
sutircomed 5 months ago 4
@sutircomed anyone democrat = stockholm syndrome
Madfoot713 2 months ago
@davidwatson23 part 2. Look at wikipedia, for instance. "Homosexual behavior in animals". The references list, point 8 and 9 is where they got their stuff from regarding the sheep. And if we talk about evidence.. What is your evidence regarding: homosexuality is a perversion of sex caused by deep-seated psychological issue? Did the gay penguin had an overbearing mother? In short.. I want evidence that you are not trying to give your dislike/disgust about gays a face.
Ranokian 5 months ago
@davidwatson23 Again, you make a claim about Nature. An unsupported claim I might ad. How will nature proof anything about sex, if all forms of sexual behavior are seen in nature.. Masturbation, Necrophilia... where is the procreation in that? The gay penguins of the Manhatten zoo. The fact that I cant give you overwhelming numbers doesn't mean you can dismiss gay behavior in animals as you please. You dont have to take my word for it though. ----------------> see part 2.
Ranokian 5 months ago
@davidwatson23 And If I sum up less then 15 my argument is invalid? Just for your information, some male sheep prefer other male sheep, even if females are around. And for dominance they fight each other. My point with religion was, that a lot of people seem to use that as a "defender" when they try to explain what their view on natural is. My point is that we cant go around to name things unnatural when it suits us. For me, nature includes all human traits, including the ones I do not like.
Ranokian 5 months ago
@davidwatson23 "when a man hooks up with another man on tv or outside, this is a public display of Perversion" : Bullshit.
" In nature, in the animal and plant kingdoms, in all ways of life there is the female and the male" Flat out wrong.
"Only this combination can produce LIFE" : you obviously didn't pass biology 101.
"No where, except with humans, do you see men prefer men and women prefer women, its a violation of Nature": You didn't do any research.
Get a clue.
monokhem 5 months ago
@davidwatson23 In nature, homosexual behavior is recorded in 1500 species. So what is "natural"exactly? In nature we do see almost all human traits. What we do not see however, is religion. So religion is a violation of nature? As you see, this kind of argumentation is easy to use against you, and is in fact rather weak. And not being to procreate is just as much part of nature. What you do however, is using "nature" as it suits you. it;s not based on knowledge. How fair is that?
Ranokian 5 months ago
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@gumbymaster
With all respect to OTHER gays, BF is the main culprit in congress for lack of bank regs that caused recession:
IN HIS OWN WORDS: watch?v=Z5z9lD4C2Io
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LIE: watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA
BF lies again: watch?v=k0ZcVsVTPrQ
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MA Dems like gumbym allowed this; I spit on u & hope anti-Red/pinko deathsquads like Kaibiles (or the Chinese who u owe) execute corrupt gov thieves once USA can't defend itself (inevitable if keep electing ECONOMIC failures).
ThalamusMinimus 5 months ago 3
@davidwatson23 Sorry but this is bullshit. The mere fact that you can walk across the street with your wife and kids, or show even the slightest form of affection in public for your hetero sexual partner, is a display of your "straightness". So we either go towards a society that totally bans any sign of sexual preference, or we give each other some slack. Anyway, you just want to totally ban anything that even remotely reminds of you of "gayness".
In short: a lot of words to show intolerance.
Ranokian 5 months ago
Disgusting piece of shit sodomite. Sack this piece of shit.
bachmann4president 5 months ago
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I really cannot agree with U or admit with any honesty that [many ] are "bigoted', etc.. On the contrary my belief makes clear that the Savior who called us to what we are & believe does so for everyone in authentic & uncompromising love and perfection.In the book of Romans6, it makes clear that God came to all of us when we were fallen,helpless, immoral & condemned. We were morally bankrupt & confused but Christ died for us then.Desiring to reveal marvelous light of the Creator is not bigotry
shieldsff 5 months ago
The closet people talk about is the republican party.
Ileko1 5 months ago
Hypocrisy of the Republicans show once again in Philip Hinkle's case. You conservatives are losers.
laurayu70 5 months ago 2
Braney Frank is such a piece of trash on multiple levels.
Antiworld23 5 months ago
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Frank is a fucking faggot and should go fuck a horse.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
bawney says whats wrong with lickin a dogs penis? Dogs love it. It will calm a vicious bulldog down real quick. Bawney does it all the time. Even gets anderson cooper to try it.
Petekiv 6 months ago
Elmer Fudd just smacked down that party hack. How did he get on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal when he's jobbing for the Republicans?
PoliticsStudent 6 months ago
Gay rights, womens rights black rights, white rights......when the left finally decides to read the constitution (bill of rights) and can find me where those rights are directly given to fringe groups and not ALL people then we can talk. Otherwise, we ALL have rights. But new rights by judicial activism mean that anyone can have any right to anything. You dont have a right to be a murderer, therefore you can not make up a new right to justify it. Put your crayons down.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
Still, in 2002 sodomy (as in consentual gay sex) was still illegal in Texas. By the way, since Santorum comes up... Google the guy. Go ahead, "Rick Santorum", just Google it.
CarlosMonteiro1985 7 months ago
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To a homosexual, heterosexual "love" is a perversion. To a left handed person, favoring the right hand is a stupid thing to do. To a vegetarian, the most delicate and expensive steak dinner is disgusting.
Stop demanding that everyone do as you say, think as you think, and believe as you believe. You are not superior to anyone, especially total strangers.
Mind your own business, since you wouldn't want total strangers to be running your personal affairs. Live and let live.
schlummieleinchen 7 months ago
WOW....Who knew Barney Frank was such a boss?!
As a left-wing social-democrat and democratic-socialist Canadian, I simply do not understand this right-wing concept that the U.S STILL hasn't been able to shake off (that morality can somehow be legislated - not only do different people have different morals, but when it comes to something like homosexuality, which to me, is NOT a morality issue at all, why do they care so much who you're putting your penis into every night?)
ammarios 8 months ago 22
@ammarios lol, You should ask yourself why someones sex life is your buisness? Why is it the lefts buisness? It, in all out reality, has nothing to do with the government at all, but do you ever ask yourself why the left likes to dangel these people privacy in everyones face? I can assure you that it has nothing to do with Texas and more to do with voyerism. It was only then the left, in Borks nominational hearing told judges to wiretap people having sex -Senator Joe Biden. hmmm ever wonder?
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Very simple: It is people's private business who they have sex with (gay, non-gay, whatever).
However, when you make a PUBLIC career out of condemning gays &trying to make life miserable for people, then it is definitely everyone's business (like Ted Haggard..etc). If it was just some dude who pretends to be hetero but is fucking guys in public washrooms, that's his business...but once you make it a public career, then it's everyone's business when you're a hypocrite.THAT'S why.
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios If It's thier private buisness, then why do you care about THEIR private buisness? Do you think they want you championing their bedroom stories? "then it is definitely everyone's business " -no, its not -anyones- buisness. I could care less if someones fucking someone else in the ass, not your buisness and its not the governments buisness to hand out or obstruct ANY marriage document period. So then WHY are the left so obsessed with mens asses and womens strap ons?
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Are you unable to read? I just SAID that yes, it is NO ONE'S business but their own...HOWEVER, when you make the issue your PUBLIC CAREER, and you go around speaking out against homosexuality and trying to make life miserable for gay people, then it IS everyone's business if YOU are a hypocrite and fucking guys when you publicly condemn homosexuality and try to pass legislation to that effect. It calls your credibility into question. THEY should butt out of people's sex lies and
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel stop trying to legislate who they can be with and who they can fuck. If someone wants to pretend to be hetero AND against homosexuality and claim moral authority and make a public career out of it, then if they are fucking guys in secret, it IS everyone's business to call out their hypocrisy because THEY are the ones who made this issue public in the first place. The "left" is saying "stop trying to tell people who to fuck and love, make sure our laws don't discriminate against
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel an identifiable group. Why should someone have the right to condemn a certain behaviour, yet when they THEMSELVES secretly practice it, suddenly they're off-limits to criticism and scrutiny.
If it was just someone minding their own business, then hey, he can pretend to be hetero and fuck guys ALL he wants..THAT'S none of my business..but when you make A PUBLIC career out of it, YOU are the one putting it out there.
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel If you're gonna PUBLICLY condemn something&try to pass legislation against it, then you better not be practicing it yourself. However,if you're just a politician who ISN'T leading a public anti-gay campaign, then I don't care what you do in the bedroom..you can pretend to be hetero&fuck guys all you want, it's none of my business.Once you start leading a public campaign (especially one that has
ammarios 7 months ago 3
@ammarios You seem to be obsessed with gays. Like I said, Joe Biden and many of the left (far more than the right) have been EXTREMELY hypocritical. Don't see to many moral things come from the left side. BTW, gay conservatives have a right to be conservative. It's their bedroom buisness, not yours and they have a right to express conservative PRIVATE views. Ususally they are exposed by voyeristic liberals. And to say conservatives dont like gays, is outdated dinosaur lefty hate talk.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel How typical. You just changed the subject.
I never said gays don't have a right to be conservative. I SPECIFICALLY talked about those who crusade AGAINST homosexuality (Ted Haggard, Larry Craig...etc) and build CAREERS out of condemning homosexuality and attempt to even pass legislation to make life just more miserable for gay people, then in their private time are secretly fucking guys while publicly claiming moral authority against it. It's called hypocrisy, lying/
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel "You seem to be obsessed with gays" ... that IS part of the topic isn't it? Homosexuality. Also, I'm a gay man myself. So, I don't knwo what that was supposed to mean, but that's what we are talking about. You seem to be obsessed with gays.
Also, I agree that gays can support whatever party they want, but to say the right-wing doesn't have an anti-gay agenda while they attempt to implement discriminatory legislation against gays doesn't make any sense.
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios Why did you just tell me you were gay? I could care less if you were and it doesnt mean anything to me that you are. Why did you feel it was important to tell me your personal affairs, wanna know why? Because you are programmed to tell people that your private life should NOT be private. PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LIBERAL EXPLOITATION OF PRIVACY.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel What you just said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I would think anyone capable of reasoning and following a conversation would realize that the reason I "told you I was gay" was to express the importance of this topic to me, in response to "you seem to be obsessed with gays". Otherwise, if it really was some evil liberal plot, I would've mentioned it at the beginning of the conversation.
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios Lol, tell me who the hell are you talking about?
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Just 3 of MANY : Ted Haggard , Larry Craig, George Rekers .....
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios Larry Craig was ousted because he had disorderly conduct in a PUBLIC restroom. Even democrats wouldve ousted any person guilty of public misconduct, GAY or NOT. Its unprofessional and so is telling everyone your sex life. Why dont you read what really happened. Gay was never the issue, what was was he was scandalous. Bill Maher and that fat ass Frank seem to think this had to do with supposed Gay bashing conservatives. Again diluting reality to gain a vote against conservatives.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Oh, please.That is complete and utter nonsense.His homosexuality WAS an issue indeed in ADDITION to the misconduct. The media pointed out the hypocrisy of his public anti-gay stances and statements.
Had he just been a conservative who liked to fuck guys in bathrooms, the homosexuality wouldn't have been an issue, but since he PUBLICLY holds anti-gay stance, it rightfully WAS an issue indeed, as it undermined his credibility and highlighted his hypocrisy.Same goes for the other 2
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios No, doesnt matter what he said, had he been fucking a women in the restroom he wouldve been ousted. He was unprofessional, thats it. You are missing the point of Bill Maher and Frank, who are saying VOTE DEMOCRAT THE PARTY OF GAYS, dont be a conservative gay because CONSERVATIVES HATE GAYS. Read between their lines. The FIRST gay man to serve in congress OPENLY was a republican CONSERVATIVE named Steve Gunderson, liberals like Maher are full of shit.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Again, that just simply isn't true. The right-wing's official record and stances regarding gay-related issues like gay marriage, sodomy laws, adoption have ALL been anti-gay.
And actually, I DON'T agree that the Dems are the "party of gays"... they have had some not-so-gay moments (but nowhere NEAR as much as the far-right). I would say the real 'gay-friendly' factions are further to the left. (And calling the Dems "left" is hilarious"... they are simply less right-wing than
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios Prove to me, show me this legislation. Give me the .gov link.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@ammarios The FIRST OPENLY GAY MAN IN CONGRESS WAS A REPUBLCAN, PERIOD. FACT.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel SO....WHAT? The first openly gay man was a GOP...so....fucking..WHAT?
You can look it up. Bush fought to keep Texas's anti-sodomy laws. The MAJORITY of Republicans ALWAYS talk about gay marriage from the anti-gay side. They also talk about anti-gay-abortion (youtube is FLOODED with videos of them). Look it up.
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios "SO....WHAT? The first openly gay man was a GOP...so....fucking..WHAT?" Ya i figured thats what you would say, standard liberal talk. Especially from a so-called gay man. Yes, the first people to liberate gays were conservatives, NOT liberals. Your liberal buddies are just shadows of REAL civil rights activism. You disreguard fact from emotion all to clear, I can see that you make shit up as you go, no evidence of shit, just opinion opinion opinion...........
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Sorry, but the REAL liberation is done through legislation. Just 'coz they had a token gay man does not erase their rather crappy record of attempting to legislate AGAINST the cause.
ammarios 7 months ago
@ammarios If you think that "liberation" is done through force and coersion, then have at it. I dont think you know the true meaning of liberty then. Laws are force, and if you believe that, then I would tell you that you are on the wrong side of the fence, ESPECIALLY if your gay. Liberty is freedom of tyranny and freedom of government intervention. Last time people put alot of power into the federal govs hand we had legal slavery, sodomy laws, contraceptive laws, you want more huh?
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Anyways, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. Incidentally, I DO want to thank you for an interesting discussion and for being mature and attempting to actually debate rather than launch the ad-hominem (you know how people usually get when they have nothing further rational to say ). So, thanks for attempting to actually argue your side like I attempted mine, without needing to resort to ad-hominem. It makes the actual discussion worth having.
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios Bush was a piece of shit. You may be a Democrat but I'm sure you don't piss your panties over Obama and Nancy! Well, we feel the same way about a lot of big gov't Republicans.
Madfoot713 2 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel than the GOP....Otherwise the Dems and GOP are both right-of-centre.
So, are you honestly saying that there is nothing wrong with Haggard and Reker's AGGRESSIVE campaigning and claiming moral authority on such an issue while secretly fucking guys and renting male hookers??
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios I think ANYONE commiting sexual acts in public, gay or not, should be ousted period. Like I said, unprofessional. Unprofessional does not belong in congress, and niether does their sex life, its disruptive.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel That's just the thing. I AGREE with you. I AGREE that anyone committing sexual acts should be ousted regardless of orientation. I FURTHER that point in saying that the attention focused on these particular men's SEXUALITY is well-justified because of their PUBLIC stances.
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios I dont think their sexuality has anything to do with it, misconduct IS misconduct. Wiener, Kennedy, Byrd, Craig, and ANY congressman/woman who commits misconduct SHOULDVE been ousted. Republicans tend to oust people alot more for misconduct. Democrats tend to let it slide. All of those people shouldve been removed from office, however bigots like byrd shouldve NEVER been allowed into congress, but they get free passes now dont they?
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Yes misconduct IS misconduct. Also, hypocrisy IS hypocrisy. Normally , their sexuality WOULDN'T have anything to do with it. But in these cases, it rightfully DID, simply because it shows their REAL stance on the issue which they so claim moral authority and knowledge upon.
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios No, their credibility is out the window with me the moment its misconduct. Digging deeper into their sexuality doesnt matter, because he should no longer be a part of congress, they are history, knowing what he did doesnt solve anything. Also, Maher and frank have an AGENDA here, which is why they like to talk about it. They are nosey BSers who have it out for conservatives and use a few bad apples to get their dumb audience to believe its base.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel The REALLY despicable ones were Haggard & Rekers. Not only because of their public stances, but because they AGGRESSIVELY PUBLICLY campaigned anti-gay hate. If someone wants to be a gay conservative, thats their business. Hey,if they even want to pretend to be hetero but secretly fuck guys that's STILL their private business. But to PUBLICLY go on anti-gay crusades&aggressively campaign..their 'personal' actions regarding homosexuality/their credibility IS the PUBLIC'S business.
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@ammarios Part 2: And Maher, if you ever viewed his earlier episodes in the 90s CLAIMED to be a libertarian. Now all of a sudden he is a liberal, wanna know why? Because his audience gets more laughs by being one-sided. He's a liar and a nit-wit to a one-sided philosophy which is popular with the narrow minded hate of religion he so adorantly has, but sits conjugatly in his piety with his Roman Catholic and Jewish socialist. The only hypocrit on this show is Maher, the sellout.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel Actually, I very much respect Maher's evolution of political views over time. It shows that he is progressive and open to changing his views if shown convincingly that he should. He explains it in one of his books. I think I'll take his own word for it rather than yours or someone else's.
That's what being progressive means.... you're open to change when it is needed, and to evolving to suit the current situation, as opposed to "conserving" traditions no matter what,
ammarios 7 months ago 2
@SuperFifthwheel When you crusade PUBLICLY against something&build a career on condemning it&lead PUBLIC campaigns to that effect&attempt to pass legislation regarding it(keyword:PUBLICLY),then you forfeit your right to privacy regarding the hypocrisy of your actions with regards to that issue.Now, if you are simply a cons. who pretends to be hetero but fucks guys,then THAT is private. BUT once you PUBLICLY campaign, your every action regarding that issue is key to determining your credibility.
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwheel So, "why so obsessed with gays?" Well, because that's the topic AND because I'm a gay man myself and therefor speak from the perspective and experience of the party on topic, and to respond to your "obsessed..." thing. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever. My sexual orientation is not a source of shame for me, and I have the right to choose to keep it private or talk about it when relevant.Your accusations of liberals are senseless.
ammarios 7 months ago
@SuperFifthwhee caused so many people problems), then your credibility rightfully comes under scrutiny regarding the issue. Stop telling people who to fuck& love, and we will stop demolishing your credibility.
ammarios 7 months ago 3
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@ammarios Religion my friend...
dreamcastftwb1tch3s 6 months ago
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Gay marriage? Ron Paul says "Yes"
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vechorik 3 months ago
THE GREEN TIE GUY, SHOULD GET HIS ASS UP OFF THE CHAIR AND GO HOME CRY ON HIS BED AT 1:40 MIN
TOTALLY BUSTED!
Cacacos 8 months ago
Thank GOD he's my congressman. Barney Frank is a brilliant man.
gumbymaster 8 months ago 18
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Our leaders are not leading. They need to put their feet in the shoes of working Americans…. Instead, all they think about is re-election and implementing United Nations Agenda 21 and ICELI. If you don't know what UN Agenda 21 and ICELI are, then LEARN before you vote! It's why Obama did nothing to help US people--Obama wants WORLD redistribution of wealth.
vechorik 5 months ago
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ThalamusMinimus 5 months ago 3
LGBT people, and supporters, who want smaller government, less spending, tax reform and strong defense but who don't hate themselves and want to be treated equally, I don't see why they're Republican. Why aren't you folks Libertarians? The same goes for those secular people with the same views who are tired of religion in politics. Why support those who ridicule, even outright HATE you? If ALL of these people voted Libertarian we could have had a Libertarian congress AND president long time ago.
docdoom187 8 months ago
@docdoom187 I suppose that would be a logical party position to have if I was for all government/fiscal freedoms and all social freedoms- however I am not for the latter. I'm a pro-lifer, I am for more Chrisatian presence in America and I am certainly against the way society is pushing sex on teenagers. I'm certainly open minded socially but I still have much in common with Republicans. Plus Republicans just sounds cooler ;D
JermzzzyFTW 8 months ago
@JermzzzyFTW A greater "Christian presense"? As in for the USA to become a theocracy and a "Christian nation"? The same belief that's responsible for taking away the freedoms of people like yourself and degrading you as if you were subhuman? Good luck convincing those conservative/Republican people to step away from such foul beliefs and actions in the name of religion. Barry Goldwater tried and failed. And you see how they banished him from their ranks when he didn't change his political tone.
docdoom187 6 months ago
@docdoom187 Libertarian parties don't exist in the same level of Rep/Dems. So as a gay libertarian, I vote for the next best thing - my fiscal beliefs win out.
mcconvilleme 8 months ago
@mcconvilleme There are two reasons why Libertarians don't make it like Dems and Repubs. Main reason is people don't vote for them. If you are libertarian-minded, there is NO reason, and there are NO excuses, why you should not vote for a Libertarian. If libertarianism is what you stand for then you should VOTE for those who support it. Next, corporations give billions to Democrats and Republicans, who are BOTH corporatists. Libertarianism would END corporatism, so they don't support them.
docdoom187 6 months ago
@mcconvilleme anyone who chooses to sacrifice their fiscal freedoms for social freedoms (equal treatment as a human being) or vice versa...honestly...they deserve neither one. that's just the facts. lift yourself up in one area, but side with the enemy who beats you down and ostracizes you in another area. Take a long hard look at yourself and what it is that you are allowing yourself to do. In order to change this nation, we have to have zero tolerance for abuses of ANY freedoms.
docdoom187 6 months ago
@docdoom187 Take a long hard look at myself? Who do you think you are?
I don't classify those who don't agree with my to be my 'enemy' - stop being so tribal. It's because of overly tribal people like YOU that anything of substance takes an age to get done.
I can't say that anyone has ever 'beat [me] down and ostracised [me]' that is the most ridiculous piece of hyperbole I've heard in a long time.
The fact is, any reasonable person should choose their money of a single piece of reform.
mcconvilleme 6 months ago
@mcconvilleme Who am I? I am a Libertarian. Stop being so tribal? I have no reason to be tribal when it comes to this issue. I'm not even gay. But it seems that you and many others suffer from Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the conservative/Republican fascist social agenda. They probably haven't pointed you out personally, but you ought to know how they feel about you and "your kind", as they'd so eloquently put it. As I said before, if you are libertarian you should vote for them.
docdoom187 6 months ago
@mcconvilleme Continuing to vote for Democrats and Republicans who are two sides of the same coin AND bought by corporations, is why anything of any substance takes an age to get done in America! LOOK AT HOW THEY ACT IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW! This nation is falling victim to social and fiscal RAPE because of libs and cons thanks to "libertarians" and well-meaning liberals and conservatives (and those who are NOT well meaning) who are brainwashed to think their party is better than the other one.
docdoom187 6 months ago
@docdoom187 The Libertarian Party is a joke. It's best to have a major party affiliation so you can vote in primaries, and with Ron Paul republicans becoming more popular, libertarians will register Republican. Plus, I imagine the LP has open primaries, so there's no point registering for a party that only restricts you (since major party primaries are usually closed).
Madfoot713 2 months ago
@Madfoot713 Uh huh, yeah, the Libertarian Party is a joke. Instead, vote mainstream. Vote for "electable" candidates. Bailouts. Freedom and equal treatment for only CERTAIN Americans. For America to keep being the world police thanks to the military industrial complex. For a broke all to hell tax, welfare, healthcare, and social security system. More globalism and corporatism. Keep votin' for them neocons and neolibs. That's "safe" and feels comfortable. Libertarianism is just way too extreme.
docdoom187 2 months ago
@Madfoot713 If Ron gets into the White House...face it. His libertarian values will be devolved, watered down, crippled, stunted, and mutated into nonconservativism and Republicanism because he will be surrounded by neocons. If you thought Congress is pathetic right now with Obama in office, just wait until you see how they act when Ron Paul tries to put forth conservatism as it was BEFORE the Republican party went to total crap, as in BARRY GOLDWATER conservatism! They'll fight him even harder!
docdoom187 2 months ago
@Madfoot713 Ron Paul, Barry Goldwater, Ross Perot, Murray Rothbard, Robert Nozick, Roderick Long, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman were right. And not a single neocon or neolib...or their brainwashed, braindead, and brainless supporters...can prove them wrong without putting their damn foot in their damn mouth!
docdoom187 2 months ago
I'm with the guy with glasses- I'm gay and let's face it: I like my money. I don't want to have to doll out tons of money to help some uneducated welfare momma who can't stop breeding. As for patriotism I'm for the war in Iraq and am against illegal immigration. I'm still for gay rights though :)
JermzzzyFTW 8 months ago
Barney Frank is horribly one sided. I am genuinely offended and this isnt good politics.
MyDormantSoul 8 months ago
@MyDormantSoul horribly one sided, you say? Welcome to political parties, newbie.
WHATISUTUBE 8 months ago
@WHATISUTUBE Im anything but a noob when it comes to political science, Im simply articulating a glaring bias in a popular youtube video. You go tell that to all the people that liked this video.
MyDormantSoul 8 months ago
@MyDormantSoul the people that liked this video subscribed 0probably) to 'gayrightswatch'. Obviously, they have a slant, and this video is exactly what they want to see to reinforce their views. I mean, are you also gonna complain about Fox News being biased? Yes, it obviously is. This isnt presenting itself as 'fair and balanced'.
WHATISUTUBE 8 months ago
@WHATISUTUBE Just because something happens to be unbalanced and propagandistic doesnt mean we cant criticize it. Do you not see the countless videos and comments persistently bashing fox news? There are some many viral videos showing fox's fuck ups, and hardly any exposing the same propagandistic hypocrisy of the left. You arent helping, you are instead endorsing some half-baked ideology on apathy. I myself am homosexual, does that mean I have to endorse far left smear campaigning? fuck that
MyDormantSoul 8 months ago
@MyDormantSoul The thing with Fox News is; they present themselves as a news channel. Bill Maher isn't presenting himself as an unbiased news show. Clearly, he leans left. In which case, he's not misleading anyone and going the course. I actually don't mind Fox, I just think they are more ''opinion'' than news, which is fine. Some of their anchors can be royal asses, though.
WHATISUTUBE 8 months ago
@WHATISUTUBE but at the same time FOX news is presenting itself as right wing, and as a result, thanks to the hardline stances of Oreilly and Beck, millions are calling them crazy. Its absolutely overwhelming how much hatred there is for the rightwing. How many leftwing news shows are there? Colbert, Stewart, Msnbc, Bill Mahr, CNN, ABC, and the majority of youtube vloggers. How many rightwing ones are there? The much hated fox news and a few fringe vloggers. Thats not even counting movies and tv
MyDormantSoul 8 months ago
@MyDormantSoul It's because leftist news shows aren't so god damn cynical. They actually tend to have their feet in logic...usually. Colbert is great, and does his bit through comedy. He doesn't take himself seriously and doesn't think the world will end and a survival pack is necessary (Glenn Beck sponsors them). No one is questioning their sanity. But when it comes to right wingers, you get some crazy anti-government shit that would make al qaeda proud.
WHATISUTUBE 8 months ago 2
@WHATISUTUBE As a Canadian I can't even get fox news so i really dont know the full extent to their extremity. That said, it still remains the ONLY right wing media outlet, that is absurdly unbalanced, and the fact thats its an insane one makes the situation worse. I've seen colbert and I find that he inserts a leftwing bias under the dialogue, and then when it turns untruthful and propagandistic, he'll hide behind a joke or a pardoy, still leaving the impact of that message on the audience
MyDormantSoul 8 months ago
i love barney frank
TheMemal 9 months ago
Barney Frank & Bill Maher are Fannie Fisters.
CHEwasGAY 9 months ago
It is so refreshing to see a republican speaking sense. Ive been 'bred' liberal yet through various circumstances I have developed conservative values, but never in a million years would I vote for a conservative party because of their backwards views. Maybe if there were more conservatives who didnt spout partisan, ignorant, religious tripe so often they might get my vote. Alas, I will have to vote for those PC bastards once more :-(
PHILIBOYLONDON 10 months ago
Barney Frank owned the Republican Party in literally, a 30 second diatribe.
and he's not even a particulally skilled politician.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@OatSharpener Kind of takes the sting out of it when you realize he 's a pedophile and takes young boys down in his basement though doesn't it?
rachelabombdotcom 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom right, so you're throwing around an accusation of a criminal offence that carries a life sentence in court and you don't even feel the slightest urge to back up the claim?
Their is no evidence of what you say because it isn't true. Why do people always accuse homosexuals of being pedophiles? Statistically it's straight men are both the highest proportional and overall danger of it.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@OatSharpener Yeah too bad the witness who claims to have been taken down in the basement and named Frank and described his home to a tee is dead now. His last words were "They are after me they want to kill me for what's in this book {The Franklin Cover Up}" He was admitted to the hospital given a room which was where he was found dead the next morning, bleeding from the mouth.
I'm not generalizing I accused Frank, not "homosexuals" but you might want to look at the raw data on those studies..
rachelabombdotcom 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom I've actually researched these accusations before and have never found anything that even seemed remotely reliable. It's just crazy conspiracy theories you seem all to eager to believe.
and don't gimme that crap that this has nothing to do with him being gay. There are alot of stupid retards out there willing to believe idiotic lies such as the idea gays are likely to be peodphiles and I really hope you're not one of them, as the last bit of your comment suggests you might.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@OatSharpener While homosexual population overall is 1-2% they are responsible for more than 30% of cases where children are molested.
You see homosexual abusers abuse far more victims over time so the data is not being presented truthfully and is creating a false conclusion. Kind of like global warming... er climate change data was manipulated to seem credible when it is not. Try researching past NAMBLA website you might get somewhere...
rachelabombdotcom 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom The American Psychological Association, The National Association of Social Workers, The American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and The Child Welfare League of America are all adamant that Homosexuals pose no greater risk of commiting peodphilia than heterosexual males.
Their was a study by Erickson et al, 1988 that has often been distorted by homophobes who say it supports their rediculous hypothesis, and Erickson himself has had to come out and explain that it DOES NOT.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@OatSharpener
APA ADMITS MISTAKE ABOUT PEDOPHILIA
The APA has attempted to distance itself from its article about pedophilia ever since the APA was exposed by an organization of psychologists and psychiatrists who treat homosexuals. They are The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH).
Social workers? You can't be serious...
search CPS child abuse see what comes up
rachelabombdotcom 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom Also, as one last point, I think you'll find that often those who attack homosexuals and are against gay rights are often perverts or closted gays themselves.
Without mentioning the dozens of Anti-gay republicans and Religious Right-wingers revealed as closted gays or nonces, Here's a video by ProfMTH, a man you never want to take on in a debate, showing my point
watch?v=MSUVOF1IpMw
Consider yourself served.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@OatSharpener Um... Yeah I'm not sure exactly what you're saying, let me guess...
It's ok if the pedophiles are left of center? Because that's how it looks here.
Maybe you didn't get the memo?
Left vs right is a false paradigm and this has been going on a long time because of the game of divide and conquer. I'm smart enough to be able to see past it but it seems you are not.
Barney Frank should be removed from his place on Capitol hill by an educated electorate too bad there isn't one.
rachelabombdotcom 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom I never said that, I'm saying that their is no evidence that Barney Frank raped a young boy and then had him murdered while he slept in his hospital bed. It's a rediculous claim that no one has ever back up when they've made it and then they always shy away from his homosexuality as though it's not related to these stupid rumors.
and you've made another common assumption, Who said I was Liberal? I never said you were conservative. . . . . . .
OatSharpener 10 months ago
@rachelabombdotcom I'm a libertarian, I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative. And while I think personal and economic freedom are equally important to have, I feel stronger on a personal level about personal freedom.
OatSharpener 10 months ago
Whatever bro...you're going to realize that you're getting fucked over at some point, I'm just trying to help you recognize it earlier.
jstr888 11 months ago
@jstr888 - Shut up. You just want everybody to "think" EXACTLY as you do, you foul-mouthed libturd. This is why I urge you to go vent at Daily Kos or HuffPo - because there, you'll have brain-dead drones who'll agree with every word you spew.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@jstr888 - And actually, it was PRECISELY the public's outrage over being f****d in many ways (namely by tax-and-spend Democrats) that led to so many of them kicked out of the House in the last election.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
its odd that you bring up teaching homosexuality in schools instead of answering my question, but thats your right. incidently, this is my sons profile, so congratulations on looking up an underage kid. good look with whatever you do, because it,ll be more important than this conversation.
fairwell mr.brown
TheSnakeadoir 11 months ago
@TheSnakeadoir - The point is, people of that age group (19-22) are among the most fanatically brainwashed into the cult of moral relativism, cultural decadence and sexual anarchy - which is all tied in to how they nod in agreement with the rantings of a G-dless libertine like Bill Maher as if he's some kind of moral authority on everything in the world - as well as with the radical leftist agenda that Barney Frank is pushing.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
its a crime to commit intimacy with an animal with some states. should the courts repeal that too?
zonedigit 1 year ago
@zonedigit That's because having sex with an animal isn't consenting. It'd be like having sex with a child. It'd be like having sex with a baby, they can't agree to it. Now, what two grown people do in the privacy of their own bedroom shouldn't be criminalized. That's the whole point of repealing such a nonsense law.
MansonFan64 1 year ago 12
@MansonFan64 I don't know, I've seen some male dogs in sex shows overseas that looked like they were consenting pretty heavily. In fact, it was the human women I'd have worried about getting consent forms from.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
Barney Frank, the Constitution is not whatever you want it to be. Finding a law to be Constitutional is different from agreeing with it personally. I disagree with Social Security, but I don't think it is un-Constitutional. What a basic, simple-minded mistake he is making there.
Hypatia1951 1 year ago
Does this guy really think Republicans want homosexuality to be illegal? What evidence does he have for that claim. It is a baldfaced lie---one that he makes because it scores points with his supporters who don't want to accept that a great deal of change has happened within the Republican party over the years. It is itself a form of simpleminded prejudice: He is living in the past like an ostritch with its head in the sand.
There shouldn't be a right to hypocrisy? Actually, there should
Hypatia1951 1 year ago
Does this guy really think Republicans want homosexuality to be illegal? What evidence does he have for that claim. It is a baldfaced lie---one that he makes because it scores points with his supporters who don't want to accept that a great deal of change has happened within the Republican party over the years. It is itself a form of simpleminded prejudice: He is living in the past like an ostritch with its head in the sand.
Hypatia1951 1 year ago
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This Jesus Freak Psycho Terrorism has got to STOP! Shove your homophobic version of the "Gospel" up your hate obsessed ass and let people live in peace. Your "faith" is poisoning American society. Keep it and let the rest of us live without all that pathetic Jazz. Nobody stops YOU from enjoying your disgusting religion. Leave others alone and stop dictating your Christo-Nazi bullshit into everyone's life. Nobody among the non-brainwashed majority wants any of it. More for you!
thursdaysrecords 1 year ago
Never refer to Bush as President Bush. He was not elected fair and square. He will be Governor Bush for eternity.
marinello6 1 year ago 8
@marinello6 - By your "logic," then, we should refer to the current alleged "President" as COMMUNITY ORGANIZER Obama (or, at the very least, Senator Obama). Because he STOLE the '08 election with the help of George Soros (both in terms of financing his campaign and in his role in destroying our economy to scare voters into electing him), the lame-stream media, and foreign funny money from the Middle East. And B.T.W., as far as Bush, in 2000 Al Gore ATTEMPTED to steal the election.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@wmbrown6 Agreed. All presidents are front men for the elite. Campaign Contribution is another word for "BRIBE".
marinello6 11 months ago
P.S. And a few other groups that aided and abetted in Obama's tainted "victory": Illegal aliens and their front groups; ACORN and their surrogates; the public employee unions that are now holding states like Wisconsin hostage with their entitlement mentality; and perhaps most important, the New Black Panthers with their outright intimidation of voters in polling precincts in Philadelphia and vicinity, wielding truncheons to suppress certain votes. Oh yes, and disenfranchising military voters.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@wmbrown6 You are so naive. Do you believe everything you hear on t.v. and the radio? I almost think you are a liberal posing to be a conservative to embarrass them. So you are OK with middle class workers in Wisconsin having their benefits stripped while we keep giving tax cuts to billionaires! You are a perfect example of the success of right wing propaganda you close minded dim whit fool. Have you ever had an original thought in your life?! What a wasted life.
jstr888 11 months ago
@jstr888 - "Do you believe everything you hear on t.v. and the radio?"
That's funny, I was about to ask the exact same question as you. You've obviously been brainwashed by the leftist CBS - NBC - ABC - CNN - MSNBC - PBS - NPR axis which is at one with government-employee unions who draw obscene pensions while the middle class is being systematically destroyed by socialist Big Government statists. You have completely swallowed all the Marxist class-warfare talking points.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@jstr888 - Let me also quote you from Abraham Lincoln: "You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." Yet what Lincoln warned against, THE LIBERAL LEFT AND THEIR BIG LABOR CRONIES ARE PRECISELY DOING.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@jstr888 - And from Winston Churchill: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@jstr888 - And another Churchill quote: "There can be no doubt that socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state. Socialism is in its essence an attack not only upon British enterprise, but upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clasped across their mouth and nostrils. ..."
wmbrown6 11 months ago
(CONT'D) " ... (Labour) would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance." In today's world, that would be exemplified by, say, Michelle Obama, or Mike Bloomberg.
wmbrown6 11 months ago
@jstr888 - And I know for a fact that "having an original thought" is code for "make it all up as you go along." YOU are the failure, because you are FILLED with envy and hatred for those who are more successful than YOU. The majority of Americans back Gov. Walker in his bid to rein in out-of-control spending and put the greedy, arrogant government unions with their spoiled-brat sense of entitlement in their place. Notice how most of the demonstrators have been bussed in out-of-state...
wmbrown6 11 months ago
(CONT'D) ...and have been directed and coordinated by Obama via his de facto Gestapo, "Organizing for America," which proves beyond a doubt that he is first and foremost the radical Marxist community organizer he had been in the past. Those rent-a-mobs are the epitome of astroturf. You clearly are a supporter of socialism, collectivism and statism.
wmbrown6 11 months ago