Actually, all these details about the day of 9/11 are irrelevant. Al-CIA-duh's hijack plan would fail if the planes were intercepted. Interception of wayward and hijacked planes is SOP and NORAD had a 100% intercept success rate prior to 9/11. Why would professional "terrorists" believe for even a second that their plan would work. Its absolutely ridiculous. The only possible way for it to succeed is if they knew before hand that the plane would not be intercepted.
@fakeyf9 They didn't totally succeed. Flight 93 never reached its destination. Was that planned? There was only about 30mins from the time flight 11 ignored ATC to the time it hit tower 1. Please explain how it could have been intercepted? While your at it explain how each flight could have been intercepted. Do you really think the minute the plane stopped communicating and its trasponder was lost, fighter jets would be on its tail preparing to shoot it down?
@Kenyon712 It was not a matter of whether or not it did succeed.Prior to 9/11 why would the hijackers think their plan would work.NORAD had a 100% success rate of intercepting wayward and hijacked jets within minutes.It SOP to immediately scramble and intercept commerical jets that lose their transponder or radar contact,or fail to communicate with ATC.This happened routinely for decades.A 30 minute delay is unprecedented.Why would the hijackers think NORAD would fail on 9/11.
@Kenyon712 To answer you question as to how it should have happened then I dare you to read the entire article at 911blogger(dot)com/node/16623. Read it if you have the guts and ask yourself how the hijackers knew beforehand that NORAD would fail.
There is an upload on my channel of an over two hour video of the wtc attacks, that was not released for nearly a decade. It is the most complete account in real time that has ever surfaced. If you give yourself over to merely listening to it, in its entirety.. you will have more of an understanding about that day; from another perspective, than you have gained from anything you have ever looked, and listened to about 9/11. Only the too proud, would disagree. Put asside the time to know?
This video doesn't state that when the first plane changed course it did so in a radar blackout spot. I have read that somewhere, if true, it should be added to this video.
You believe that Silverstein told the world that he told the firemen to demolish building 7? OK. According to the truth argument 7 was rigged for demo before 9/11. Why would he need to tell them to pull it, if that was already the plan? Are you implicating an unknown # of firemen in this plot also?
Is it a fact that there was molten metal found or did someone see something that looked like molten metal? There is a huge difference. Could it have been aluminum?
When aluminum gets hot enough to turn to a liquid (molten) it is a grayish color. Not orangish yellow. Google it. Google the video "The Truth versus Nist engineer John Gross" for videos and eyewitness testimony of molten metal "flowing like lava".
Landlord Larry Silverstein demolished the WTC ("pull it"). Silverstein is a Jew. No Jews were in the towers on 9/11, NeoCon Zionist Jews ordered 3000 Jews to stay home. No Jews died on the planes either. WTC 7, the smoking gun, served as a headquarter for NeoCon Jews prior to 911.
Jews have a long history of false flag attacks. The general public refuses to even consider the factual evidence that the Holocaust was a Jewish false flag operation.
I am simply looking at the facts. Anyone who really wants the truth will find it looking at the things we know to be true. I don't understand how some can ignor facts in favor of conjecture or opinion.
Tower 7 was heavily damaged. If you look at the Deutsche bank building you will see heavy damage to the building. There is even a gash at least 24 stories long. How anyone can say that 7 had slight damage is simple or willful ignorance. Deutsche banks was a steel web designed building and it didn't burn for nearly 7hrs. It was not constructed over a con ed station, putting enormous load on its lower core columns. Building 7 collapsed from damage and fire.
An employee, Barry Jennings, of the WTC 7's 23rd floor Emergency Management Operations Center was trapped in the WTC 7 building and stated that explosions were going off prior to either WTC 1 or WTC 2 collapsing. (That would have been prior to 10:03 am.) Jennings also spoke of walking over bodies as the the FDNY rescued him (and Mr. Hess) from WTC 7. So yes, there was interior explosive damage to WTC 7. But videos don't show WTC 7 "engulfed in flames".
@Kenyon712 First of all, fire cannot take down a steel building, let alone at the rate of free fall acceleration. Second, even if there was heavy damage on one side of the building, which is doubtful as the building was a good 100 yards from the north tower, the building could only collapse or tip on that one side. Asymetrical damage can never cause a symetrical collapse. And it certainly wouldn't create molten metal underneath the tower, which is impossible from a fire.
What about Larry Silverstein's "pull it" then? Silverstein is a NeoCon Jew, and WTC 7 was a place for Jewish elitists to hold meetings prior to 9/11. The Silverstein Jew decided to pull 9/11 due to back-traceable evidence of his false flag agenda.
Why were no Jews harmed in the attacks, even though NY happens to be the USA's largest Jewish community? NY's position as a Jew citadel has been inforced by the 9/11 false flag. Do some research.
How come WTC 3,4,5,6 didn;t collapse? They we're right underneath WTC 1 & 2. So how does WTC 7, the complex furthest from the WTC Towers collapse but the other's don;t??
@Kenyon712 Building 7 had total universal structural failure on all load baring vertical steel columns all at the exact same time. It simply CANNOT happen!
For you guys who continue to say that engineers and such have stated that it was impossible for either tower to collapse the way it did, where is the proof? If something is impossible it should be easy to explain why. If it was really impossible, Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean, and on and on structural engineers will be more than happy to show how. They haven't because it is not impossible. Is Russia, China, and Iran also in on it?
Google Frank DeMartini (WTC Construction Mgr.) and 9/11.
Google Leslie Robertson (one of the original WTC engineers) and 9/11. Both of these men said that the WTC Twin Towers could easily withstand the impact of a jetliner strike. Watch the comparison video called "9/11 Truth in 9 Minutes" on YouTube.
@Kenyon712 Watch Dimitri Khalezov's documentary interview, all of Part 1 and at least the first 20 minutes of Part 2. Ideally, watch Part 2 in full as well. Also note, that it's ok not to agree with his explanation of the WTC planes because it's ultimately not critical to his explanation of how the towers came down.
@Cincinnati911Truth Yep i think it will all come out, but the question is when? It must come out whilst the evil bastards who did this gutless atrocity are still drawing breath, so that we can have our day and as we snuff out that breath
Says it all @2:52 quote "how can govt agencies draw conclusions when even their own data doesn't support their hypothesis?' How true is that. If the US law and world opinion doesn't see those criminals who did this tried in a legitimate court, we'll see alot more of this false flag attacks and it may be soon with iran being blamed for something. Maybe they US will sink their own nuclaer powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise which has been conveniently parked just out of Iranian waters
Building 7 was badly damged. It burn for nearly 7 hours. It was known well in advance that it would collapse and everyone was pulled from it. There is nothing controlled about the fall of tower 7. Other buildings were damaged, It did not fall straight down. It started with the collapse of the penthouses.
It completely collapsed due to controlled demolition. In order for WTC 7 to completely collapse the way it did, falling symmetrically down in about seven seconds, the support columns and girders had to give way at about the exact same time simultaneously. That could only be done with explosives. NIST even had to admit that WTC 7 fell at FREEFALL ACCELERATION for 2,25 seconds. This is impossible without controlled demolition. Even Shyam Sunder admitted to the 2.25 seconds.
@Cincinnati911Truth The problem with the CCD (conventional controlled demolition) hypothesis, there is no seismic evidence for a CCD - no P or S waves were ever recorded. Another problem, there should have a several storeys of debris. There wasn't. Also when WTC 7 went down it did so silently. CCDs make a lot of noise. In the case of WTC 7, it would be like raining 20,000 dump trucks with fireworks.
@Kenyon712 I don't need evidence.all i need is my own mind and thoughts.I know perfectly well that America is the new Nazi Germany.And almost every problem in the world can be blaimed on money and power.And you know what and if it where those camel hurding people from those caves.You probably deserved it for bombing their wifes their kids and their land.So the reasen for those wars never where justified in the first place.hence you f*cker's probably did it your self to justefy it.
@djundadawg Der DAAA DERR DAAA WHICH WAY DO I GO? WITCH WAY DO I GO GEORGE? DERRRRR DAAAA so i guess whenever we want to knock down some buildings we can just fly planes into them, why bother with demolition companys anymore? Just get some old planes you don't want anymore, and there you have it no more demo companys.
@Kenyon712 ..heavily damaged...how?..it was slightely damaged,and had a few small fires...they leveled that building because it contained damning sensitive documents(only original ongoing criminal cia investigative files)...btw buidings NEVER JUST FALL STRAIGHT DOWN INTO PILES OF DUST,because of fires or really ever because of anything other then expertly placed explosives!-they have steel skeletons,concrete pillers,posts-massive amount of resistance to just collapse.
@Kenyon712 It wasn't heavily damaged at all. It had minor facade damage from the antenna of 1 of the towers just scraping it. The fires were minimal on only 2 floors and weren't burning hot at all. Skyscrapers have burnt like roman cnadles for 19 hours and still didn;t colapse. Does it say something to you that no concrete reinforced building has ever collapsed from fire before 911 or since 911? Doesn't this clip tell you theres lies from govt? Are you really that brainwashed that u can't c?
@Kenyon712 Also you do realize a B25 bomber hit the Empire State Building in a raining foggy night, there was lots of damage,fire and deaths but the building didn't collapse. Also the twin towers were built with plane strike in mind, something the Empire State wasn't. C'mon man stop a fool or are you a paid for liar?
Look at the collapse of tower one and you will see about 70 stories of core left, before it too collapses. It was a gravity collapse because support was lost. All this video does is ask questions that common sense and facts can easily answer.
@Kenyon712 Your argument hold no scientific merit. Any one of the 2000+ Architects and Engineers would agree with me . NIST's models for WTC 7 is inaccurate and does not explain how total failure was reached. It is physically impossible for an object to fall at free fall acceleration through the path of greatest resistance. how did universal collapse initiate? Why were there reports of explosions from WTC7? The facts you are talking about are lies and incomplete research.
@Kenyon712 Explosives were not found because NIST did not look for them. No account of the official story is anywhere accurate or truthful. Common sense and Facts would take you down the road most of us arguing with you have arrived at. It is sad to see people clinging to the official story so tight they can't see the forest for the trees. Please do some research before competing with research veterans and scientist in this field. Wake up! There is no evidence to support you!
@THEROTTINGDOG There is support placed in towers for a reason. At some point if you loose enough support the part unsupported will come down. The planes did a good bit of damage and took out some support. We know the planes damaged the core. There were thousands and thousands of tons that need to be supported. When the next floor is impacted by this it doesn't stand a chance, and so on. Only the ground was going to stop this.
Sgt. David Whorley, the man responsible for delaying the fighter jets during the 9/11 fiasco, died in the Washington train disaster in July 2009... most peeps do not know this. Funny how that story was buried quickly and really not much about it ever made it into the news. Source: CTV News archives
@ALoENoMESeLL wow.... Both him and his wife died in that one. Makes me wonder if he became expendable. He had retired. Could it be he was thinking about blowing the whistle?... That train accident had a very poor excuse for happening. Oh it was a computer fail. well... which Israeli computer firm was in charge of the system? Worth looking into
Tower 2 collapsed first because there was more mass above the impact and it was off center. More support was taken out on one side so the load was much more unstable. Tower one was hit near center about 15 floors higher. The support exactly where the plane hit, gave out first on tower 2. That is why it tilted to that side. Before it could tilt completely over the floors beneath gave out and it all came down.
The path of least resistance was straight down. There was no force pushing the building over, gravity was pulling it down. I don't know how you expect any one of the lower floors to resist the dynamic force of thousands of tons falling on them. Where should the collapse have stopped and at which floor?
There were 47 center core columns in the middle of the building. Yet, there was nothing left of them after the entire building collapsed? No way. There was no "pile driver" effect from the top. Only gravity. The top should have tipped over.
I noticed that you ignored all other evidence of controlled demolition.
@Kenyon712 Listen dimwit, architects and engineers have already stated that pile driver effect is bs. 10 stories can't crush into a pile of dust and debri 100 stories. It's a impossibility. Now fuckoff and do some research before making more of a fool of yourself in front of the world. Listen i have a clip in my faves for ppl like you, it's psychologists help 911 deniers. Go there if you aren't a paid liar, you need some help
@SouthernCross33 ... let it go ... kenyon712 is a disinfo agent ... expect total garbage posts from that piece of shit, and let his BS comments roll off you, he's just a scumbag doing his job trying to lie, deceive and confuse. People are starting see more clearly now.
I can't believe real pilots are this ignorant. There has never been any evidence that the government carried out the 9/11 attacks. We just get a bunch of people who can't understand how this could have happen, have a lot of questions. Instead of admiting that they are ignorant, they tell themselves they are the only ones who can see the truth.
@Kenyon712 Spoken like a truly propagandized fool. Architects and Engineers For 9/11 Truth, Patriots Question 9/11, Scholars For 9/11 Truth and Justice, Pilots For 9/11 Truth, Firefighters For 9/11 Truth, Military Officers For 9/11 Truth, Scientists For 9/11 Truth, Lawyer For 9/11 Truth, Law Enforcement For 9/11 Truth, Christians For 9/11 Truth, Muslins For Truth, Religious Professionals For 9/11 Truth, Medical Professionals For 9/11 Truth, ...
@Cincinnati911Truth If there were any proof it would have been presented a long time ago. All of this nonsense that's been repeated for 10+ years are just the ideas and opinions of the uneducated or biased. There has never been a tower built like the WTC intentionally hit by a 767 and set afire. How do you know what is suppose to happen? Ask yourself this question. Why did tower2 fall before tower1? Basic physics will explain it easily. There were not bombs or thermite. It was gravity.
Great question! Why did the second tower that was struck (off center) and had the majority of the jet fuel explode outside of the building totally collapse within 56 minutes? (From 9:03 am to collapse at 9:59 am.) When the first tower struck was head on and it burned from 8:47 am to total collapse at 10:29 am.
Google "WTC + Frank DeMartini + towers built to withstand jet impacts". Even Les Robertson, the lead engineer in building the WTC towers, said the same thing.
Don't you do ANY RESEARCH? Buildings do not collapse down into themselves (into the path of most resistance) and fall that quickly. What about the pools of molten metal found in the basements of WTC 1, 2 and 7? How did the fires get that hot to cause them? What about the squibs? Eyewitness reports of multiple explosions? Nanothermite found in all WTC dust samples tested! You're making a fool of yourself.
People forget one thing my hubby just pointed out. Maybe they couldn't do it by hand, but the autopilot might be able to. I am not saying I think they are wrong, But in truth we must consider all possibilities. Would they even know how to program a 767 correctly?
It is believed by many at Pilots For 9/11 Truth that these planes were flown by remote control. For much more information and research on this visit PilotsFor911Truth(dot)org
a. May 4, 2001 - PNAC member Dov S. Zakheim, member and a co-author of PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses", is sworn in as the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) and Chief Financial Officer for the Department of Defense who was a former vice president of System Planning Corp., a defense contractor which makes remote control and flight termination products.
@TheDisneylover23 This is a common misconception. Autopilot in commercial craft is designed to maintain altitude and ease the work on the staff. It is not normally capable of complex tasks such as landing the craft or steering it, and certainly not to the extent of the actions which where taken on 9/11, which were beyond the safe zone of the aircraft.
with all the evidence ,how can anyone still say that the govt didnt know or worse yet didnt plan it.. there is zero evidence supporting the govts. explanation.
If the theory that they replaced the original flights with drones is true...and I am just asking...what of the passengers on the original flights...what do you suppose might have become of all those witnesses? Really that is alot of trouble to go through, drone trading for passenger flights if the people on board were expendible anyway.
That's a very good question and one I've heard for a long time. I don't know what happened and all I would do would be guessing if I tried to answer your question. Are you familiar with Operation Northwoods from 1962? That was a plan where the U.S. would attack it's own military base in Cuba, assassinate Americans and blame it all on Cuba as an excuse to go to war against Cuba.
In Operation Northwoods one of the plans was to have CIA agents posing as college students fly on a plane near Cuba. Then this plane would quietly land at a U.S. military base. The college students (actually CIA agents) would get off the plane and a remote controlled drone plane designed to replace the passenger plane would fly on towards Cuba and blow up in mid air. The U.S. would then blame Cuba for shooting down a plane full of college kids.
@dreadnaught2 dude Taliban wanted to turn in OBL if USA showed proof but MIC was hellbent on going to war with afghans and guess what now they want to sign peace with Taliban. GOV LIES, GOV SUCKS!!
OBL could have been tried, tortured for more information(not that I support it but that's what they have been doing around the globe) and tried in criminal court. WE WOULD HAVE WON for justice instead throw a non combatant, unarmed, not even in charge of al-CIA-da in sea, just f*ing great!!!
I like the courage and commitment of some of these folks. Throughout the years I wondered what happened to the people en route to lax and other dest. and it's just hard to fathom...
Then the airline pilots association hadn't checked with the FBI because FBI Spokesperson Rex Tomb came out and admitted that the FBI has no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks.
Google the phrase "FBI has no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks" and read it for yourself. Even Bin Laden's Most Wanted FBI page doesn't mention anything about him being wanted for 9/11. Research dude, research!
@Cincinnati911Truth ...I have researched and I am aware of OBL's video confession in October, originally shown on el Jazeera. Airline pilots association never took the reward off of the board, even after this Rex Tomb statement, so what does this tell you about his statement? Nonsense, subversive and devisive nonsense.
wow. the APA never took the reward down, and that means what exactly ? Nothing at all. The FBI not only allowed Tomb's statements, they never contested them either. Also to the fact that they had no evidence, 9/11 was never even listed as a crime on his wanted poster. As far as OBL's "confession"; you "read" a translation, as even if you did speak Arabic, Urdu, or Farsi or what have you; You couldn't make out anything he was saying directly either way
@JJTheJunkMan1 Not to mention the fact that unless you're eyesight is not so good, that ain't OBL in that confession video, at least not the one I've watched
@JJTheJunkMan1...it means that they wanted OBL arrested for 9-11. I will let you know when someone needs a conspiracy kook to translate arabic videos.
I like this video and do not contest it's presentation, but I do have one problem with it, the interchangeability of O and zero. No pilot uses O (oscar) for 0 (zero). They are not interchangeable. When you are programming nav equipment or any other data input, you must be accurate, and interchanging these characters is not accurate. Zero is zero and O is O. That's akin to a Marine calling his rifle a gun. Doesn't happen unless it's in jest.
@corvusyt It is possible that a professional narrator was used in the production of this clip and is not himself a professional pilot, but the Pilots for 9/11 Truth should have picked up on this discrepancy. That being said, I don't think the messages that they are delivering are horribly disfigured by this slip-up.
The biggesst question out there is "Will the US military fire on their own citizens?". If they will, we're screwed. If they won't, as I believe, the gov is screwed. Make no mistake, these people are trying to enslave us all. The FEMA camps are really disturbing as is Obama's signing of the FDAA.
@corvusyt I haven't had a chance to fact-check this, and anyone else that can point me to the contrary is more than welcomed to, but I've read in several articles and in several forums now that a standard re-enlistment questionnaire provides as one entry whether or not the enlisted would be able to fire upon US citizens if so ordered. As I said, I personally can neither prove nor disprove this so any who can in either direction please do.
@JJTheJunkMan1 I don't really believe that a questionnaire or training will be the deciding factor when push comes to shove. The troops know who their friends and family are, and it ain't the 1%. Most of the troops are low and middle class and are in the military because of a lack of educational and financial opportunities. There is already a backlash of active and former military against the oligarcy. Troops are being 'disciplined' for speaking out against unjust wars.
Wasn't suggesting anything in particular other than the fact that if it is true then our Govt apparently has placed that possibility on the table. But let's not forget how many German soldiers "just followed orders"
@D0W666 Interesting proposal, but I think the level of sophistication that we're dealing with is much lower. These are nazi thugs with high caliber PR. They are especially talented in the presentation that the loss of our freedom will somehow give us safety from attack, I honestly believe that the gov purports the majority of terrorist attacks to maintain tensions in the areas they deem necessary. (9/11 truth and Occupy wall street are the doors to freedom. It will be a bloody trail.
Do you think that it is possible that the just released video of the US marines pissing on the dead bodies of slain Afghan fighters is a staged event intended to increase hostilities between Islam and the west? Anyone can see that the shadow govs want war with Iran, Seria,or Algeria next? Another false flag or "justifiable" event is going to occur to justify the next "Patriotic" invasion. While terrorism is, by def terrible, how many have died from it re tthe no's that died from the response?
@corvusyt ..He'll "vanish" now...or change subject...or write another desperate, pedantic "cul-de-sac" of a comment where "he" attempts to confuse readers into believing he's responded to this, without actually responding to it.
I'll tell you friend, I'm not an experienced poster. I was shocked by the vitriol and ad hominem attacks that i took when first commenting. But there are people that contribute valuable and enlightening perspectives on the evils that are being visited upon us, and | need to hear their views. I don't havel the answers, but I know we're being fed bs. Whatever powers that be; please help us!
Yes I agree. We MUST expose the lies of 9/11 which then led to the lies of WMD in Iraq, the lies of yellowcake from Niger, the lies about Iran being a nuclear threat, the coverup and lies about the bank bailouts etc. Don't let the uniformed vitriolic people get to you and realize that some of these kind of people are actually getting paid by our own government to spread disinformation. Google Cass Sunstein and 9/11 Conspiracy Theories to see their program of disinformation.
@Cincinnati911Truth Good call! This is why I came came back to the net after being chased off (for a bit) by the trolls. There are just too many aspects of what is going on to find them all by yourself. This Sunstein dick is unbelievable, and I was totally unaware of him. And now Obama (a man I had great hopes for) has authorized "prolonged detention, without charge of Americans. Those that are defending the constitution overseas can find the true enemy much closer to home!!
"Those that are defending the constitution overseas can find the true enemy much closer to home!!"
That's why the largest group of Ron Paul independent financial support are the people who are in the U.S. military. I think so many of them are waking up to all of these overseas wars being based on lies and greed that they recognize the U.S. are in these wars unconstitutionally.
Don't let the trolls and mean spirited posters keep you for speaking up. If you do,,, they win!
There's an interview excerpt from the last week or so where Panetta comes flat out and states Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons ..... So it begs the question; Is this merely the last domino we're looking to topple in the ME to complete the obvious imperialist hegemony ?
@JJTheJunkMan1 Syria and Lebanon have still to be done over and raped. Go to Webster Tarpleys blog at ww.tarpley.net for the REAL news. In my humble opinion, it is the best place for unbias up-to-date info about the 'Arab Spring'.
Did you know the Lybian 'Freedom Fighters' are really Islamic fundamentalists (AKA 'al-Quada')??
@corvusyt That's what they do when they have no valid arguments. It's a hallmark of government apologists: Attack anybody who doesn't buy the official Big Brother line.
That would be some cheese files spenting time on YouTube, witht people he thinks is "ridiculously stupid" and still not come up with the evidence to his claims a.k.a. the official story of Atta and al-Shehhi piloting Flights 11 and 175, the boarding of all 10 men and the proof that the planes hitting WTC were the standard Boeings we've been told.
Right. And every Christmas Eve the cable news networks say that NORAD is tracking Santa across the globe. So why couldn't NORAD track four hijacked Boeing 757's and 767's that were flying around untouched for over 90 minutes?
Google wargames on 9/11" and find out why there was so much confusion from the FAA the Northeast Air Defense Command Center. Watch the shows that we did on this channel entitled "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11". We discuss a lot of the evidence not covered by the mainstream news.
Ok, called "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11 - Part One" and it's on Youtube(dot)com so go to watch?v=nOI2zBjjaAU
Then look for the related videos called "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11 - Part Two" the "Part Three" etc. They are on the Cincinnati911Truth YouTube channel.
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NEADS and NORAD could not even find the jets in time to shoot them down. That's a fact. Military radar and civilian aviation radar do not function the same. In the sea of aircraft still in the air the interceptor fighter pilots could not locate the target jets because the transponders were switched off. Meanwhile those jets were all of 15 mins from the WTC. There is a reason Logan and Dulles were the start points. Surprise and time are entirely on the hijackers side.
The first jet "may" have been able to strike the first tower. The rest should have been intercepted and even forced down or shot down. You can track a plane without transponders being on. Transponder technology is secondary radar. Primary can still track an aircraft location and their speed and altitude can be estimated. I don't buy your story and neither do the airline pilots or air traffic controllers. FAA regulations REQUIRE an immediate response from ATC's.
@Cincinnati911Truth Bullshit!! Go and look at the timelines. They didn't even know where U175 was. The fighter pilots were at a radar screen attempting to locate it (They were interviewed on this). Each plane situation going on is entirely separate. They were having a hard enough time with understanding the FIRST plane. Let alone the multiple targets developing. Confusion was reigning.
Lots of confusion is right. "Is this real world or exercise?" Or "I've never seen so much real world stuff going on during an exercise!"
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force) – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions stated "They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations." The bullshit is yours!
@Cincinnati911Truth Why do think the departure points were where they were? Boston and Dulles. Both about 23 minutes fly time to NY and Washington. If you want start saying "Coverup" you need to be tossing the fighter pilots of NORAD under the bus!!. They have spoken about this. No fighters scramble in seconds, that's Hollywood. If you can't find the planes and the WTC is 15 mins away. You have NO hope.
That is specifically WHY this whole operation WORKED.
I'm not throwing Nash and Duffy under the bus. Otis AFB delayed them in taking off and then sent them in a holding pattern out the southern coast of Long Island. Also, they were going at half burner or less. Half burner when the U.S. was under attack?
Visit PilotsFor911Truth(dot)org and PatriotsQuestion911(dot)com and stop making up your own stories. Hear what real professionals say about the NORAD standdown.
@Cincinnati911Truth People think there was this quiet nefarious activity going on at NEADS. That's a load of BS. The head of Air Traffic Control was on the phone to them continually. People need to realize that ATC didn't know what they were dealing with initially. Had these planes been targeting Los Angeles YES they would have been intercepted. But not when Logan to NY is 30 mins away.
No way!! Before anyone could get it together it was all over.
@Cincinnati911Truth So you're saying all of the ATC's at Logan were totally i9ncompetent and had no training or experience dealing with aircraft hijackings? LOL
No. I didn't say this. And the head of ATC spoke about being on the phone with the Airforce and was on line the entire time. He KNOWS the responses that were happening.
You need to be tossing on hell of allot of people under the train for your stories to make an ounce of sense.
@roquefortfiles I was in the USMC in the 70's. I did some time in Key West watching the commies in Cuba. We were required to have 2 aircraft (F-4 Phantoms) in the air on a 5 min notice 24/7. It wasn't optional. Don't think that the day to day defense of the airspace over America is slipshod and haphazard. It is well planned and sophisticated. To even contemplate a failure of this magnitude is so dumbfounding as to render it incomprehensible. Our military is much more capable.
@Cincinnati911Truth Primary can still track an aircraft location and their speed and altitude can be estimated. I don't buy your story and neither do the airline pilots or air traffic controllers
Yeah you can. If it was the ONLY jet in the air. Why do you think they emptied the skies that day? They didn't know who the fuck was friendly or hijack.
You can't do much about a plane if you can't find it. And having 15 mins to do so doesn't help.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you?
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot.
@Cincinnati911Truth I ridicule others because i think their stories are stupid. No matter what people want to think about the "Invincible" US air force. Fighter planes do not roll and scramble in mere seconds. And every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft by at least 3 verifiable sources. So if you got the hijackers in CONTROL of the aircraft. What influence does George Bush or Dick Cheney have on that?
"What influence does George Bush or Dick Cheney have on that? None. They're serving drinks in coach?"
Believe whatever fairytale CNN or our government tells you. I'll go with the evidence of multiple war games, ignoring fighter jet response requests and the three different timelines that NORAD gave to try to make sense of their standdown.
@Cincinnati911Truth I also get REALLY tired of the constant fall back on "GOVERNMENT STORY". Its the "TM" safety valve.
Every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft. From the ticket agent who allowed them to board. To onboard flight crew who ID'd seat numbers. Down to ground OPs at each airline (who have been interviewed about this). They cross reffed booking information and ticket info.
So if you got the hijackers on board the next stop is the WTC.
Actually, all these details about the day of 9/11 are irrelevant. Al-CIA-duh's hijack plan would fail if the planes were intercepted. Interception of wayward and hijacked planes is SOP and NORAD had a 100% intercept success rate prior to 9/11. Why would professional "terrorists" believe for even a second that their plan would work. Its absolutely ridiculous. The only possible way for it to succeed is if they knew before hand that the plane would not be intercepted.
fakeyf9 2 days ago
@fakeyf9
You're absolutely right.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 days ago
@fakeyf9 They didn't totally succeed. Flight 93 never reached its destination. Was that planned? There was only about 30mins from the time flight 11 ignored ATC to the time it hit tower 1. Please explain how it could have been intercepted? While your at it explain how each flight could have been intercepted. Do you really think the minute the plane stopped communicating and its trasponder was lost, fighter jets would be on its tail preparing to shoot it down?
Kenyon712 1 day ago
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@Kenyon712 It was not a matter of whether or not it did succeed.Prior to 9/11 why would the hijackers think their plan would work.NORAD had a 100% success rate of intercepting wayward and hijacked jets within minutes.It SOP to immediately scramble and intercept commerical jets that lose their transponder or radar contact,or fail to communicate with ATC.This happened routinely for decades.A 30 minute delay is unprecedented.Why would the hijackers think NORAD would fail on 9/11.
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@Kenyon712 To answer you question as to how it should have happened then I dare you to read the entire article at 911blogger(dot)com/node/16623. Read it if you have the guts and ask yourself how the hijackers knew beforehand that NORAD would fail.
fakeyf9 1 day ago
Great video.Always nice to get some professional analysis instead of the tiresome troll nonsense.
stratocaster539 4 days ago
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There is an upload on my channel of an over two hour video of the wtc attacks, that was not released for nearly a decade. It is the most complete account in real time that has ever surfaced. If you give yourself over to merely listening to it, in its entirety.. you will have more of an understanding about that day; from another perspective, than you have gained from anything you have ever looked, and listened to about 9/11. Only the too proud, would disagree. Put asside the time to know?
tuesmornininsept 5 days ago
This video doesn't state that when the first plane changed course it did so in a radar blackout spot. I have read that somewhere, if true, it should be added to this video.
wasaka2 6 days ago
@wasaka2
I agree. I've read about that too. That definitely shows insider knowledge of radar blackout areas.
Cincinnati911Truth 5 days ago
Was it tested and shown to be metal and what metal?
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
Off the top of my head I don't know. Google it.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago
You believe that Silverstein told the world that he told the firemen to demolish building 7? OK. According to the truth argument 7 was rigged for demo before 9/11. Why would he need to tell them to pull it, if that was already the plan? Are you implicating an unknown # of firemen in this plot also?
Kenyon712 1 week ago
What was the molten metal found at the site? If you don't know, how do you know it was molten metal?
Kenyon712 1 week ago
Is it a fact that there was molten metal found or did someone see something that looked like molten metal? There is a huge difference. Could it have been aluminum?
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
When aluminum gets hot enough to turn to a liquid (molten) it is a grayish color. Not orangish yellow. Google it. Google the video "The Truth versus Nist engineer John Gross" for videos and eyewitness testimony of molten metal "flowing like lava".
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago
After working in a foundry for several years, I have to disagree.
DTanimaga 5 days ago
History repeats itself. Jewish/US false flag ops repeat themselves, too.
The Holocaust (holo-hoax), USS Cole, Operation Northwoods, 9/11. What's next, answer JEWS!
JamesCorbett911 1 week ago
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Jews were involved in the execution of 9/11:
Landlord Larry Silverstein demolished the WTC ("pull it"). Silverstein is a Jew. No Jews were in the towers on 9/11, NeoCon Zionist Jews ordered 3000 Jews to stay home. No Jews died on the planes either. WTC 7, the smoking gun, served as a headquarter for NeoCon Jews prior to 911.
Jews have a long history of false flag attacks. The general public refuses to even consider the factual evidence that the Holocaust was a Jewish false flag operation.
JamesCorbett911 1 week ago
I am simply looking at the facts. Anyone who really wants the truth will find it looking at the things we know to be true. I don't understand how some can ignor facts in favor of conjecture or opinion.
Kenyon712 1 week ago
the last show of the ignorant man's loss of intelligent debate comes with name calling-the lack of IQ leaves them near ,and preferrably speachless
chaneyranch99 1 week ago
one day we shall rise again and take America back into American hands and not the rich.
xjontronx 1 week ago
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HOW BOUT THE SIMILARITIES ON 7 7 05 LONDON & 911
DgurlSunshine 1 week ago
Tower 7 was heavily damaged. If you look at the Deutsche bank building you will see heavy damage to the building. There is even a gash at least 24 stories long. How anyone can say that 7 had slight damage is simple or willful ignorance. Deutsche banks was a steel web designed building and it didn't burn for nearly 7hrs. It was not constructed over a con ed station, putting enormous load on its lower core columns. Building 7 collapsed from damage and fire.
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
An employee, Barry Jennings, of the WTC 7's 23rd floor Emergency Management Operations Center was trapped in the WTC 7 building and stated that explosions were going off prior to either WTC 1 or WTC 2 collapsing. (That would have been prior to 10:03 am.) Jennings also spoke of walking over bodies as the the FDNY rescued him (and Mr. Hess) from WTC 7. So yes, there was interior explosive damage to WTC 7. But videos don't show WTC 7 "engulfed in flames".
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago 4
@Cincinnati911Truth you cant fix stupid ...LOL meaning (@kenyon712)
chaneyranch99 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 First of all, fire cannot take down a steel building, let alone at the rate of free fall acceleration. Second, even if there was heavy damage on one side of the building, which is doubtful as the building was a good 100 yards from the north tower, the building could only collapse or tip on that one side. Asymetrical damage can never cause a symetrical collapse. And it certainly wouldn't create molten metal underneath the tower, which is impossible from a fire.
KSengage86 1 week ago
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@Kenyon712
What about Larry Silverstein's "pull it" then? Silverstein is a NeoCon Jew, and WTC 7 was a place for Jewish elitists to hold meetings prior to 9/11. The Silverstein Jew decided to pull 9/11 due to back-traceable evidence of his false flag agenda.
Why were no Jews harmed in the attacks, even though NY happens to be the USA's largest Jewish community? NY's position as a Jew citadel has been inforced by the 9/11 false flag. Do some research.
JamesCorbett911 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
How come WTC 3,4,5,6 didn;t collapse? They we're right underneath WTC 1 & 2. So how does WTC 7, the complex furthest from the WTC Towers collapse but the other's don;t??
jismjacket 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 Building 7 had total universal structural failure on all load baring vertical steel columns all at the exact same time. It simply CANNOT happen!
wealthmaster71 6 days ago
The Empire State building in not comparable to the twin towers. Totally different construction and senario.
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
So? See my other comment to you below.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago
For you guys who continue to say that engineers and such have stated that it was impossible for either tower to collapse the way it did, where is the proof? If something is impossible it should be easy to explain why. If it was really impossible, Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean, and on and on structural engineers will be more than happy to show how. They haven't because it is not impossible. Is Russia, China, and Iran also in on it?
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712
More of your nonsense again?
Google Frank DeMartini (WTC Construction Mgr.) and 9/11.
Google Leslie Robertson (one of the original WTC engineers) and 9/11. Both of these men said that the WTC Twin Towers could easily withstand the impact of a jetliner strike. Watch the comparison video called "9/11 Truth in 9 Minutes" on YouTube.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 just want to say, hi there you piece of shit disinfo scumbag :)
anthonyc31 1 week ago 2
@anthonyc31 Why don't you give me some info that's not your opinion.
Kenyon712 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 Watch Dimitri Khalezov's documentary interview, all of Part 1 and at least the first 20 minutes of Part 2. Ideally, watch Part 2 in full as well. Also note, that it's ok not to agree with his explanation of the WTC planes because it's ultimately not critical to his explanation of how the towers came down.
watch?v=vNuKAdGlxFo
anthonyc31 1 week ago
Cheney needs to be hauled in and waterboarded by families of the dead. He is up to his carggy neck in this 911 atrocity.Aresst him Americans
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
If they did switch planes mid flight to remote controlled planes the question is, where are the ppl in the planes that were swapped?
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
@SouthernCross33
Good question. Do you think we'll ever find out?
Cincinnati911Truth 1 week ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Yep i think it will all come out, but the question is when? It must come out whilst the evil bastards who did this gutless atrocity are still drawing breath, so that we can have our day and as we snuff out that breath
SouthernCross33 1 week ago 2
Says it all @2:52 quote "how can govt agencies draw conclusions when even their own data doesn't support their hypothesis?' How true is that. If the US law and world opinion doesn't see those criminals who did this tried in a legitimate court, we'll see alot more of this false flag attacks and it may be soon with iran being blamed for something. Maybe they US will sink their own nuclaer powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise which has been conveniently parked just out of Iranian waters
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
Building 7 was badly damged. It burn for nearly 7 hours. It was known well in advance that it would collapse and everyone was pulled from it. There is nothing controlled about the fall of tower 7. Other buildings were damaged, It did not fall straight down. It started with the collapse of the penthouses.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 /watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ&feature=g-vrec&context=G2132a5cRVAAAAAAAABA I dare you to watch this you ignorant bastard.
Neicios 1 week ago
Building 7 collapsed from damage and fire. That's no secret. It was heavily damaged and it burn for nearly 7 hrs.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712
It completely collapsed due to controlled demolition. In order for WTC 7 to completely collapse the way it did, falling symmetrically down in about seven seconds, the support columns and girders had to give way at about the exact same time simultaneously. That could only be done with explosives. NIST even had to admit that WTC 7 fell at FREEFALL ACCELERATION for 2,25 seconds. This is impossible without controlled demolition. Even Shyam Sunder admitted to the 2.25 seconds.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago 8
@Cincinnati911Truth The problem with the CCD (conventional controlled demolition) hypothesis, there is no seismic evidence for a CCD - no P or S waves were ever recorded. Another problem, there should have a several storeys of debris. There wasn't. Also when WTC 7 went down it did so silently. CCDs make a lot of noise. In the case of WTC 7, it would be like raining 20,000 dump trucks with fireworks.
mujaku 1 day ago
@Kenyon712 yeah and we all still belief in the toothfairy go back to your slavestation!
totalyawake 2 weeks ago
@totalyawake Why do you believe things that you have no evidence for?
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 I don't need evidence.all i need is my own mind and thoughts.I know perfectly well that America is the new Nazi Germany.And almost every problem in the world can be blaimed on money and power.And you know what and if it where those camel hurding people from those caves.You probably deserved it for bombing their wifes their kids and their land.So the reasen for those wars never where justified in the first place.hence you f*cker's probably did it your self to justefy it.
totalyawake 5 days ago
@Kenyon712 U stupid fuck. Gotcha!
djundadawg 1 week ago
@djundadawg Der DAAA DERR DAAA WHICH WAY DO I GO? WITCH WAY DO I GO GEORGE? DERRRRR DAAAA so i guess whenever we want to knock down some buildings we can just fly planes into them, why bother with demolition companys anymore? Just get some old planes you don't want anymore, and there you have it no more demo companys.
dan32749 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 ROFL. You ever dun heard of this fancy discovery they there call science?
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@Kenyon712 Your a tool get a life.
dan32749 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 ..heavily damaged...how?..it was slightely damaged,and had a few small fires...they leveled that building because it contained damning sensitive documents(only original ongoing criminal cia investigative files)...btw buidings NEVER JUST FALL STRAIGHT DOWN INTO PILES OF DUST,because of fires or really ever because of anything other then expertly placed explosives!-they have steel skeletons,concrete pillers,posts-massive amount of resistance to just collapse.
whisperinwindcried67 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 It wasn't heavily damaged at all. It had minor facade damage from the antenna of 1 of the towers just scraping it. The fires were minimal on only 2 floors and weren't burning hot at all. Skyscrapers have burnt like roman cnadles for 19 hours and still didn;t colapse. Does it say something to you that no concrete reinforced building has ever collapsed from fire before 911 or since 911? Doesn't this clip tell you theres lies from govt? Are you really that brainwashed that u can't c?
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 Also you do realize a B25 bomber hit the Empire State Building in a raining foggy night, there was lots of damage,fire and deaths but the building didn't collapse. Also the twin towers were built with plane strike in mind, something the Empire State wasn't. C'mon man stop a fool or are you a paid for liar?
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
Look at the collapse of tower one and you will see about 70 stories of core left, before it too collapses. It was a gravity collapse because support was lost. All this video does is ask questions that common sense and facts can easily answer.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 Your argument hold no scientific merit. Any one of the 2000+ Architects and Engineers would agree with me . NIST's models for WTC 7 is inaccurate and does not explain how total failure was reached. It is physically impossible for an object to fall at free fall acceleration through the path of greatest resistance. how did universal collapse initiate? Why were there reports of explosions from WTC7? The facts you are talking about are lies and incomplete research.
THEROTTINGDOG 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 Explosives were not found because NIST did not look for them. No account of the official story is anywhere accurate or truthful. Common sense and Facts would take you down the road most of us arguing with you have arrived at. It is sad to see people clinging to the official story so tight they can't see the forest for the trees. Please do some research before competing with research veterans and scientist in this field. Wake up! There is no evidence to support you!
THEROTTINGDOG 2 weeks ago
@THEROTTINGDOG There is support placed in towers for a reason. At some point if you loose enough support the part unsupported will come down. The planes did a good bit of damage and took out some support. We know the planes damaged the core. There were thousands and thousands of tons that need to be supported. When the next floor is impacted by this it doesn't stand a chance, and so on. Only the ground was going to stop this.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 You said the support was lost. How?
djundadawg 1 week ago
Sgt. David Whorley, the man responsible for delaying the fighter jets during the 9/11 fiasco, died in the Washington train disaster in July 2009... most peeps do not know this. Funny how that story was buried quickly and really not much about it ever made it into the news. Source: CTV News archives
ALoENoMESeLL 2 weeks ago
@ALoENoMESeLL wow.... Both him and his wife died in that one. Makes me wonder if he became expendable. He had retired. Could it be he was thinking about blowing the whistle?... That train accident had a very poor excuse for happening. Oh it was a computer fail. well... which Israeli computer firm was in charge of the system? Worth looking into
JarnesCorbett911 2 weeks ago
Tower 2 collapsed first because there was more mass above the impact and it was off center. More support was taken out on one side so the load was much more unstable. Tower one was hit near center about 15 floors higher. The support exactly where the plane hit, gave out first on tower 2. That is why it tilted to that side. Before it could tilt completely over the floors beneath gave out and it all came down.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
The path of least resistance was straight down. There was no force pushing the building over, gravity was pulling it down. I don't know how you expect any one of the lower floors to resist the dynamic force of thousands of tons falling on them. Where should the collapse have stopped and at which floor?
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712
There were 47 center core columns in the middle of the building. Yet, there was nothing left of them after the entire building collapsed? No way. There was no "pile driver" effect from the top. Only gravity. The top should have tipped over.
I noticed that you ignored all other evidence of controlled demolition.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Why bother wasting your time you are to smart to be talking to these twits.
dan32749 1 week ago
@Kenyon712 WTC Building 7 is all the evidence you need.
412budburgh420 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712 Listen dimwit, architects and engineers have already stated that pile driver effect is bs. 10 stories can't crush into a pile of dust and debri 100 stories. It's a impossibility. Now fuckoff and do some research before making more of a fool of yourself in front of the world. Listen i have a clip in my faves for ppl like you, it's psychologists help 911 deniers. Go there if you aren't a paid liar, you need some help
SouthernCross33 1 week ago
@SouthernCross33 ... let it go ... kenyon712 is a disinfo agent ... expect total garbage posts from that piece of shit, and let his BS comments roll off you, he's just a scumbag doing his job trying to lie, deceive and confuse. People are starting see more clearly now.
anthonyc31 1 week ago
I can't believe real pilots are this ignorant. There has never been any evidence that the government carried out the 9/11 attacks. We just get a bunch of people who can't understand how this could have happen, have a lot of questions. Instead of admiting that they are ignorant, they tell themselves they are the only ones who can see the truth.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago
@Cincinnati911Truth If there were any proof it would have been presented a long time ago. All of this nonsense that's been repeated for 10+ years are just the ideas and opinions of the uneducated or biased. There has never been a tower built like the WTC intentionally hit by a 767 and set afire. How do you know what is suppose to happen? Ask yourself this question. Why did tower2 fall before tower1? Basic physics will explain it easily. There were not bombs or thermite. It was gravity.
Kenyon712 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712
Great question! Why did the second tower that was struck (off center) and had the majority of the jet fuel explode outside of the building totally collapse within 56 minutes? (From 9:03 am to collapse at 9:59 am.) When the first tower struck was head on and it burned from 8:47 am to total collapse at 10:29 am.
Google "WTC + Frank DeMartini + towers built to withstand jet impacts". Even Les Robertson, the lead engineer in building the WTC towers, said the same thing.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago
@Kenyon712
Don't you do ANY RESEARCH? Buildings do not collapse down into themselves (into the path of most resistance) and fall that quickly. What about the pools of molten metal found in the basements of WTC 1, 2 and 7? How did the fires get that hot to cause them? What about the squibs? Eyewitness reports of multiple explosions? Nanothermite found in all WTC dust samples tested! You're making a fool of yourself.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago
Is pilots for truth a no plane group? Thats nonsense if it is.
dreadnaught2 2 weeks ago
@dreadnaught2
No, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is definitely NOT a "no planes" group.
Cincinnati911Truth 2 weeks ago
I have no doubt that this was all planned. Does anyone know where the plane went after it didn't hit the pentagon? How freaky a thought!
TheDisneylover23 2 weeks ago
@TheDisneylover23 ....lets not let the hundreds of flight 77 crash eyewitnesses get in the way of this conspiracy.
dreadnaught2 2 weeks ago
YEP! 911 WAS A NO PLANER! VOTE 4 RON PAUL, AND WE'LL GET THAT REAL INVESTIGATION!.........?911!
UCJIMBO 2 weeks ago
LMAO, I don't see too many "debunkers" here on this vid trying to trip people up with arrogant and frivolous comments lol - 9/11 TRUTH BE HEARD!
VD420herpes 2 weeks ago
Wow, great vid, everyone needs to see this.
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Total Control of United States (FULL MOVIE) The Israel Lobby
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Joe Biden says I am a zionist
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megamogx 3 weeks ago
,,hmmmmm? could 'we' have MOB connections in New...ENGLAND...
wolfdaddy205 3 weeks ago
@wolfdaddy205
,,vote biff ROBme!....NOT!
Ron Paul Now!
wolfdaddy205 3 weeks ago
3 NUKES 5 BOMBS A MISSILE A DEMOLITION CREW AND A LOT OF LIES = 911
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,,=ditto!
I woke up on 4/20,another inside job...
wolfdaddy205 3 weeks ago
People forget one thing my hubby just pointed out. Maybe they couldn't do it by hand, but the autopilot might be able to. I am not saying I think they are wrong, But in truth we must consider all possibilities. Would they even know how to program a 767 correctly?
TheDisneylover23 3 weeks ago
@TheDisneylover23
It is believed by many at Pilots For 9/11 Truth that these planes were flown by remote control. For much more information and research on this visit PilotsFor911Truth(dot)org
Cincinnati911Truth 3 weeks ago
@TheDisneylover23
Dov S. Zakheim
a. May 4, 2001 - PNAC member Dov S. Zakheim, member and a co-author of PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses", is sworn in as the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) and Chief Financial Officer for the Department of Defense who was a former vice president of System Planning Corp., a defense contractor which makes remote control and flight termination products.
Check out this guy's history.
Cincinnati911Truth 3 weeks ago
@TheDisneylover23 This is a common misconception. Autopilot in commercial craft is designed to maintain altitude and ease the work on the staff. It is not normally capable of complex tasks such as landing the craft or steering it, and certainly not to the extent of the actions which where taken on 9/11, which were beyond the safe zone of the aircraft.
stuthelotusguy 2 weeks ago
with all the evidence ,how can anyone still say that the govt didnt know or worse yet didnt plan it.. there is zero evidence supporting the govts. explanation.
210daved1 1 month ago
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Blow your mind with this one. CIA asset tells everything she knows. Plenty of answers here.
sausagedogheaven 1 month ago
@sausagedogheaven
Yes, great video.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
If the theory that they replaced the original flights with drones is true...and I am just asking...what of the passengers on the original flights...what do you suppose might have become of all those witnesses? Really that is alot of trouble to go through, drone trading for passenger flights if the people on board were expendible anyway.
seekerofwisdomntruth 1 month ago
@seekerofwisdomntruth
That's a very good question and one I've heard for a long time. I don't know what happened and all I would do would be guessing if I tried to answer your question. Are you familiar with Operation Northwoods from 1962? That was a plan where the U.S. would attack it's own military base in Cuba, assassinate Americans and blame it all on Cuba as an excuse to go to war against Cuba.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@seekerofwisdomntruth
In Operation Northwoods one of the plans was to have CIA agents posing as college students fly on a plane near Cuba. Then this plane would quietly land at a U.S. military base. The college students (actually CIA agents) would get off the plane and a remote controlled drone plane designed to replace the passenger plane would fly on towards Cuba and blow up in mid air. The U.S. would then blame Cuba for shooting down a plane full of college kids.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@seekerofwisdomntruth
Drones, so much more of a believable story. A. Are remote controllable. B. Carry explosives. and C. Fly at military precision.
prettygalwithabrain 3 weeks ago
@dreadnaught2 dude Taliban wanted to turn in OBL if USA showed proof but MIC was hellbent on going to war with afghans and guess what now they want to sign peace with Taliban. GOV LIES, GOV SUCKS!!
OBL could have been tried, tortured for more information(not that I support it but that's what they have been doing around the globe) and tried in criminal court. WE WOULD HAVE WON for justice instead throw a non combatant, unarmed, not even in charge of al-CIA-da in sea, just f*ing great!!!
esh1 1 month ago
I like the courage and commitment of some of these folks. Throughout the years I wondered what happened to the people en route to lax and other dest. and it's just hard to fathom...
esh1 1 month ago
Pilots for truth is easily offset by the fact the the airline pilots association offered a reward for OBL after 9-11.
dreadnaught2 1 month ago
@dreadnaught2
Then the airline pilots association hadn't checked with the FBI because FBI Spokesperson Rex Tomb came out and admitted that the FBI has no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks.
Google the phrase "FBI has no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks" and read it for yourself. Even Bin Laden's Most Wanted FBI page doesn't mention anything about him being wanted for 9/11. Research dude, research!
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago 7
@Cincinnati911Truth ...I have researched and I am aware of OBL's video confession in October, originally shown on el Jazeera. Airline pilots association never took the reward off of the board, even after this Rex Tomb statement, so what does this tell you about his statement? Nonsense, subversive and devisive nonsense.
dreadnaught2 1 month ago
@dreadnaught2
wow. the APA never took the reward down, and that means what exactly ? Nothing at all. The FBI not only allowed Tomb's statements, they never contested them either. Also to the fact that they had no evidence, 9/11 was never even listed as a crime on his wanted poster. As far as OBL's "confession"; you "read" a translation, as even if you did speak Arabic, Urdu, or Farsi or what have you; You couldn't make out anything he was saying directly either way
JJTheJunkMan1 1 month ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 Not to mention the fact that unless you're eyesight is not so good, that ain't OBL in that confession video, at least not the one I've watched
JJTheJunkMan1 1 month ago
@JJTheJunkMan1...it means that they wanted OBL arrested for 9-11. I will let you know when someone needs a conspiracy kook to translate arabic videos.
dreadnaught2 1 month ago
@dreadnaught2 OBL didn't admit to anything. Go watch that clip again, then compare the OBL in said video to all other images of OBL.
The Osama in your vid is bigger, blacker and younger than the other OBL. 2 different guys altogether
''Two different guys'' - everybody.
I just watched Airplane.
D0W666 1 month ago
I like this video and do not contest it's presentation, but I do have one problem with it, the interchangeability of O and zero. No pilot uses O (oscar) for 0 (zero). They are not interchangeable. When you are programming nav equipment or any other data input, you must be accurate, and interchanging these characters is not accurate. Zero is zero and O is O. That's akin to a Marine calling his rifle a gun. Doesn't happen unless it's in jest.
corvusyt 1 month ago
@corvusyt It is possible that a professional narrator was used in the production of this clip and is not himself a professional pilot, but the Pilots for 9/11 Truth should have picked up on this discrepancy. That being said, I don't think the messages that they are delivering are horribly disfigured by this slip-up.
corvusyt 1 month ago
The biggesst question out there is "Will the US military fire on their own citizens?". If they will, we're screwed. If they won't, as I believe, the gov is screwed. Make no mistake, these people are trying to enslave us all. The FEMA camps are really disturbing as is Obama's signing of the FDAA.
corvusyt 1 month ago
@corvusyt I haven't had a chance to fact-check this, and anyone else that can point me to the contrary is more than welcomed to, but I've read in several articles and in several forums now that a standard re-enlistment questionnaire provides as one entry whether or not the enlisted would be able to fire upon US citizens if so ordered. As I said, I personally can neither prove nor disprove this so any who can in either direction please do.
JJTheJunkMan1 1 month ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 I don't really believe that a questionnaire or training will be the deciding factor when push comes to shove. The troops know who their friends and family are, and it ain't the 1%. Most of the troops are low and middle class and are in the military because of a lack of educational and financial opportunities. There is already a backlash of active and former military against the oligarcy. Troops are being 'disciplined' for speaking out against unjust wars.
corvusyt 1 month ago
@corvusyt
Wasn't suggesting anything in particular other than the fact that if it is true then our Govt apparently has placed that possibility on the table. But let's not forget how many German soldiers "just followed orders"
JJTheJunkMan1 1 month ago
@corvusyt ever heard of MK-ULTRA?
I propose the first 'troops' the elites will use against the people will be from the MKULTRA programme. Thats my 2 cents.
D0W666 1 month ago
@D0W666 Interesting proposal, but I think the level of sophistication that we're dealing with is much lower. These are nazi thugs with high caliber PR. They are especially talented in the presentation that the loss of our freedom will somehow give us safety from attack, I honestly believe that the gov purports the majority of terrorist attacks to maintain tensions in the areas they deem necessary. (9/11 truth and Occupy wall street are the doors to freedom. It will be a bloody trail.
corvusyt 4 weeks ago
Do you think that it is possible that the just released video of the US marines pissing on the dead bodies of slain Afghan fighters is a staged event intended to increase hostilities between Islam and the west? Anyone can see that the shadow govs want war with Iran, Seria,or Algeria next? Another false flag or "justifiable" event is going to occur to justify the next "Patriotic" invasion. While terrorism is, by def terrible, how many have died from it re tthe no's that died from the response?
corvusyt 1 month ago
Listening to the audio exchanges, these are either the stupidist bozos who ever worked for Uncle Sam, or they are intentionally dragging their feet.
LordBalto 1 month ago
This is deep.
dsmith019 1 month ago
The only thing that was hijacked on 9/11 was the airwaves.
JZJYRWO 1 month ago
What planes?
JZJYRWO 1 month ago
Also, there are at least 5 military airfields within 10 miutes of anywhere in this scenario.
corvusyt 1 month ago
look at the time lines of 77 and 93
corvusyt 1 month ago
@corvusyt ..He'll "vanish" now...or change subject...or write another desperate, pedantic "cul-de-sac" of a comment where "he" attempts to confuse readers into believing he's responded to this, without actually responding to it.
homerbear46 1 month ago
I'll tell you friend, I'm not an experienced poster. I was shocked by the vitriol and ad hominem attacks that i took when first commenting. But there are people that contribute valuable and enlightening perspectives on the evils that are being visited upon us, and | need to hear their views. I don't havel the answers, but I know we're being fed bs. Whatever powers that be; please help us!
corvusyt 1 month ago 3
@corvusyt
Yes I agree. We MUST expose the lies of 9/11 which then led to the lies of WMD in Iraq, the lies of yellowcake from Niger, the lies about Iran being a nuclear threat, the coverup and lies about the bank bailouts etc. Don't let the uniformed vitriolic people get to you and realize that some of these kind of people are actually getting paid by our own government to spread disinformation. Google Cass Sunstein and 9/11 Conspiracy Theories to see their program of disinformation.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Good call! This is why I came came back to the net after being chased off (for a bit) by the trolls. There are just too many aspects of what is going on to find them all by yourself. This Sunstein dick is unbelievable, and I was totally unaware of him. And now Obama (a man I had great hopes for) has authorized "prolonged detention, without charge of Americans. Those that are defending the constitution overseas can find the true enemy much closer to home!!
corvusyt 1 month ago
@corvusyt
"Those that are defending the constitution overseas can find the true enemy much closer to home!!"
That's why the largest group of Ron Paul independent financial support are the people who are in the U.S. military. I think so many of them are waking up to all of these overseas wars being based on lies and greed that they recognize the U.S. are in these wars unconstitutionally.
Don't let the trolls and mean spirited posters keep you for speaking up. If you do,,, they win!
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@corvusyt Hey man. Ever heard of a guy called Webster Griffen Tarpley? His information on 911 is a must.
His blog at .tarpley.net is, in my humble opinion, the best site for unbias up-to-date news.
Thats my input for the day. Hope I can contribute to your growing awareness ;)
D0W666 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth
There's an interview excerpt from the last week or so where Panetta comes flat out and states Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons ..... So it begs the question; Is this merely the last domino we're looking to topple in the ME to complete the obvious imperialist hegemony ?
JJTheJunkMan1 1 month ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 Syria and Lebanon have still to be done over and raped. Go to Webster Tarpleys blog at ww.tarpley.net for the REAL news. In my humble opinion, it is the best place for unbias up-to-date info about the 'Arab Spring'.
Did you know the Lybian 'Freedom Fighters' are really Islamic fundamentalists (AKA 'al-Quada')??
D0W666 1 month ago
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@corvusyt
Please support enactment of FALSE FLAG PROHIBITION ACT, making it a high felony for any US official, citizen, agent, operative or ally, to:
plan, conspire, orchestrate, commit, counsel, conceal, exploit or knowingly place wrongful blame on:
(a) any event or occurrence, intended to generate fear over the general population as a pretext to engage in:
(1) hostile conflict, in or with foreign countries, and/or
(2), loss of civil rights to the US population
dpetrano 1 month ago
@corvusyt That's what they do when they have no valid arguments. It's a hallmark of government apologists: Attack anybody who doesn't buy the official Big Brother line.
LordBalto 1 month ago
@corvusyt Yeah, Jesus Christ help us.
seekerofwisdomntruth 1 month ago
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@roquefortfiles
"Ridiculously stupid posts."
That would be some cheese files spenting time on YouTube, witht people he thinks is "ridiculously stupid" and still not come up with the evidence to his claims a.k.a. the official story of Atta and al-Shehhi piloting Flights 11 and 175, the boarding of all 10 men and the proof that the planes hitting WTC were the standard Boeings we've been told.
Ridiculously stupid.
Thetan1974 1 month ago
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Thetan1974 1 month ago
I have an invisible frind who saw Santa once. It's true! He did!
Thetan1974 1 month ago
@Thetan1974
Right. And every Christmas Eve the cable news networks say that NORAD is tracking Santa across the globe. So why couldn't NORAD track four hijacked Boeing 757's and 767's that were flying around untouched for over 90 minutes?
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth
I'm stunned over the fact that we are told that NORAD is tracking Santa - but I remember now, from Christmas 2010, hearing about it.
I mean, is this a joke? What are the indeed tracking? What is that joke(?) about...?
Thetan1974 1 month ago
@Thetan1974
Google wargames on 9/11" and find out why there was so much confusion from the FAA the Northeast Air Defense Command Center. Watch the shows that we did on this channel entitled "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11". We discuss a lot of the evidence not covered by the mainstream news.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth
Cool! I will. Thanks. But it's easier if you just throw a link to begin with.
Thetan1974 1 month ago
@Thetan1974
Ok, called "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11 - Part One" and it's on Youtube(dot)com so go to watch?v=nOI2zBjjaAU
Then look for the related videos called "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11 - Part Two" the "Part Three" etc. They are on the Cincinnati911Truth YouTube channel.
Then
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
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Hah, good one, that "Cincy911 TV Discusses NORAD and the War Games on 9/11 - Part One" - already commented on it long ago ; )
Thanks for the other links. I'll check it out.
Thetan1974 1 month ago
@Thetan1974
Here are two other related videos to check out:
9:11: War Games - Where was our air defense?
/watch?v=eIEbtMDhv0U
9/11 Hijackers Trained at U.S. Military Bases
/watch?v=vq4uoh3p15g
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth
Thanks. I already watched the latest PF911T one. Sh*t is getting so deep now with these pilots also. They're IMO up to par with AE911Truth.
Thetan1974 1 month ago
sure is cited sources in here
TheBloodyScotsman 1 month ago
Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame.
Visit PilotsFor911Truth(dot)org for more information/facts on the events of 9/11.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
NEADS and NORAD could not even find the jets in time to shoot them down. That's a fact. Military radar and civilian aviation radar do not function the same. In the sea of aircraft still in the air the interceptor fighter pilots could not locate the target jets because the transponders were switched off. Meanwhile those jets were all of 15 mins from the WTC. There is a reason Logan and Dulles were the start points. Surprise and time are entirely on the hijackers side.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
The first jet "may" have been able to strike the first tower. The rest should have been intercepted and even forced down or shot down. You can track a plane without transponders being on. Transponder technology is secondary radar. Primary can still track an aircraft location and their speed and altitude can be estimated. I don't buy your story and neither do the airline pilots or air traffic controllers. FAA regulations REQUIRE an immediate response from ATC's.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Bullshit!! Go and look at the timelines. They didn't even know where U175 was. The fighter pilots were at a radar screen attempting to locate it (They were interviewed on this). Each plane situation going on is entirely separate. They were having a hard enough time with understanding the FIRST plane. Let alone the multiple targets developing. Confusion was reigning.
With 15 mins to the targets? Good luck on that!!
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
Lots of confusion is right. "Is this real world or exercise?" Or "I've never seen so much real world stuff going on during an exercise!"
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force) – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions stated "They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations." The bullshit is yours!
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Why do think the departure points were where they were? Boston and Dulles. Both about 23 minutes fly time to NY and Washington. If you want start saying "Coverup" you need to be tossing the fighter pilots of NORAD under the bus!!. They have spoken about this. No fighters scramble in seconds, that's Hollywood. If you can't find the planes and the WTC is 15 mins away. You have NO hope.
That is specifically WHY this whole operation WORKED.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
I'm not throwing Nash and Duffy under the bus. Otis AFB delayed them in taking off and then sent them in a holding pattern out the southern coast of Long Island. Also, they were going at half burner or less. Half burner when the U.S. was under attack?
Visit PilotsFor911Truth(dot)org and PatriotsQuestion911(dot)com and stop making up your own stories. Hear what real professionals say about the NORAD standdown.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth People think there was this quiet nefarious activity going on at NEADS. That's a load of BS. The head of Air Traffic Control was on the phone to them continually. People need to realize that ATC didn't know what they were dealing with initially. Had these planes been targeting Los Angeles YES they would have been intercepted. But not when Logan to NY is 30 mins away.
No way!! Before anyone could get it together it was all over.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
So you're saying all of the ATC's at Logan were totally i9ncompetent and had no training or experience dealing with aircraft hijackings? LOL
Now I KNOW you are DELUSIONAL.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
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@Cincinnati911Truth So you're saying all of the ATC's at Logan were totally i9ncompetent and had no training or experience dealing with aircraft hijackings? LOL
No. I didn't say this. And the head of ATC spoke about being on the phone with the Airforce and was on line the entire time. He KNOWS the responses that were happening.
You need to be tossing on hell of allot of people under the train for your stories to make an ounce of sense.
That's why i don't get you guys.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Here's a bit of truth!!
corvusyt 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles I was in the USMC in the 70's. I did some time in Key West watching the commies in Cuba. We were required to have 2 aircraft (F-4 Phantoms) in the air on a 5 min notice 24/7. It wasn't optional. Don't think that the day to day defense of the airspace over America is slipshod and haphazard. It is well planned and sophisticated. To even contemplate a failure of this magnitude is so dumbfounding as to render it incomprehensible. Our military is much more capable.
corvusyt 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth Primary can still track an aircraft location and their speed and altitude can be estimated. I don't buy your story and neither do the airline pilots or air traffic controllers
Yeah you can. If it was the ONLY jet in the air. Why do you think they emptied the skies that day? They didn't know who the fuck was friendly or hijack.
You can't do much about a plane if you can't find it. And having 15 mins to do so doesn't help.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you?
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth I ridicule others because i think their stories are stupid. No matter what people want to think about the "Invincible" US air force. Fighter planes do not roll and scramble in mere seconds. And every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft by at least 3 verifiable sources. So if you got the hijackers in CONTROL of the aircraft. What influence does George Bush or Dick Cheney have on that?
None.
They're serving drinks in coach?
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles
Now you are rambling incoherently.
"What influence does George Bush or Dick Cheney have on that? None. They're serving drinks in coach?"
Believe whatever fairytale CNN or our government tells you. I'll go with the evidence of multiple war games, ignoring fighter jet response requests and the three different timelines that NORAD gave to try to make sense of their standdown.
Cincinnati911Truth 1 month ago
@Cincinnati911Truth I also get REALLY tired of the constant fall back on "GOVERNMENT STORY". Its the "TM" safety valve.
Every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft. From the ticket agent who allowed them to board. To onboard flight crew who ID'd seat numbers. Down to ground OPs at each airline (who have been interviewed about this). They cross reffed booking information and ticket info.
So if you got the hijackers on board the next stop is the WTC.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago