Oh and btw, feminism is not about misandry you ignorant fucks. Feminism is about gender equality. Maybe you should check your male privilege before you start spewing absolute bullshit.
Are you aware of what's known as the glass ceiling? The invisible barrier that prevents women from getting to the top. There are more poor women in this country than poor men, women still make 77 cents to every dollar men make, and yet you want to complain that women demand these things from men but don't reciprocate. I'm sorry, but unless and until you are on the front lines of the feminist movement trying to get women equal pay and opportunity then you need to shut the fuck up.
Women are the most egotistical things on the planet..If you don't tell them their shit don't stink they throw a hissy fit...BTW...Women don't pay child support at TWICE the rate as mean and abuse children FOUR times as much.>These are facts not just my opinion...But women yap 300 times as much as men thats why you will always hear more bad things about men.
And its funny how many men support this stuff, bounce from website to website, blog to youtube page stroking yaselves totally ignoring the real issues. it isn't just you men who are the victims of feminism. Yall totally don't see how yall are being used against yourselves and against women. I wonder how many of you are in happy relationships that isn't centered on a woman being submissive or subservient to you.
It is very interesting the stuff thats coming out of these mens groups, and mens right activists, these Henry Makow worshipers. Yall don't realize what it is you are doing when you say 'feminists" or women". You say many different things about different issues, different groups that can't be simplified into the tiny boxes yall build for them. How you mostly made at is successful white women and white women who want what men want, not feminists and not women.
@1goddesstruth Blah blah. Another misandrist talking shit. Everything is always the fault of "You men". This is why women aren't fit to be leaders. No accountability for your choices in life.
Funny how feminists say that we have fragile egos, yet I get scolded and cussed out by women themselves for recommending American men to date and marry non-western women overseas.
American women get really heated when there are men who are advocating international dating. I guess that American women subconsciously know that foreign women surpass them in many ways...
Its pretty funny how the only people who take feminists seriously are other feminists. They are so irrational and outraged, even most women can't stand them. It's cute, really is.
Capitalism has merely made women want to become more like men by brainwashing them to believe in "equality." There is no such thing as equality except in terms of rights. That too unfortunately can lead down a slippery slope.
NO woman on this planet has out performed me at anything that matters. Other than societal held virtues like having babies,getting rich, sports endeavors, intellectual pursuits, political positions and many more. Things I have done that equal what the most exceptional women have done are pass gas,sleep, do the laundry, dream , evacuate my bowls, eat a tasty meal, burp, take a shower , read,masturbate, take the bottom for her, get sick, throw up, cuss god, scratch my ass nose and gossip
I disagree that war is natural behaviour, other animals fight for territory but killing each other is something very few species do, it's not advantageous, a waste of energy, life and genes.
@MissMysterics Very few species kill each other? Life feeds on life. Violence and the capacity to murder, is inherent in all carnivorous/predatory species of animal. Interspecial conflict is also common for pack animals, and for hominids. War? Yes, this cannot truly be witnessed on the scale as it is in humans, except for perhaps with hive animals like ants, and different kinds of bees, however it is perfectly natural to kill for means of domination, as well as to acquire or defend territory.
The problem lies in the fact that both movements are gender oriented. Neither gender is causing these issues. Rather, it's gender-specific focus is the issue. People should be equally empowered, whilst largely ignoring gender. You represent a biased outlook. Masculists claim to speak for the unspoken concerns of men, but assuredly, not all men think like you. That goes the same, or even moreso with feminists.
@Red0660 Always nice to hear your opinion Diana. In fact, opinions such as yours is what gives MRA`s the drive and determination to continue our fight against feminism. I would just like to take this opportunity to say, thank you and keep up the good work.
Nice muscle shot; very intimidating. "Women have never displayed the same and equal willingness to provide to men." Oh, really? What do you call pregnancy and childbirth? How about repeated pregnancy and childbirth?
@checkoutlinejunk: Children are an emotional and financial liability to a man. Women control sex, conception and own the children..
So in essence pregnancy is not working for a man, it is a burden to a man to support the woman financially even after she leaves you and yes.....takes your child away from you.. Again, men are not allowed to have children...
#1 I am a private person and live a private life. In general I am not so altruistic and socially affluent . I prefer only a few close friends. There are not many organizations or bureaucracies that I want to be a part of. In fact I can think of none. They are generally self serving and lack humanity.
However I am reaching out to the MRM publicly because they need me and I need them. However I do not want a public persona.
It is a dangerous proposition to speak out against political correctness and Marxist ideology. Many men have lost their jobs from speaking out about feminism specifically.
However if I have to make myself known to further our cause I am willing to make that sacrifice.
When I say many men I mean many many men especially in universities have lost their jobs if they try to speak out.
Again let me make it quite clear, you take a great risk if you speak thoughts that offend the feminist hegemony and ideology.
Speech that threatens the feminist establishment is a dangerous and brave act. Again I am willing to make the sacrifice of my identity and take personal risk should the time come.
This cause is something bigger than myself. It is something I deeply believe in.
I hold tremendous honor for the men in our ranks and will sacrifice what is needed for us all.
"brebre1920" of course, later all charges Dropped :Judge NO crime was ever commited". And that's because I proved that she called me, and not the way she stated it as "HE CAME AND SCARED MY DAUGHTER".
Just that cost me around $6,000. Yeah not Guilty but it cost me and it did not cost her a dime. They did not even charge her for false accustions or anything!
Your story is inspirational. I really do not want to get married, but I do want a family one day. Marriage is like committing finical suicide, while you really have nothing to gain, yet everything to lose. But how was your ex-wife before you married her?
"Brebre1920" Police asked me: Why did i Remove a Necklace from My Daughter and I Attacked the Mother. I denied those Lies.While being Questioned, One Police officer who was talking to my wife came and told the Officer" don't believe him anything he says". He than Arrested me on: Child Abuse class A felony, Disorderly conduct, Forced Entry, Attacking my Wife, and Leaving the Crime scene. I swear i just left and did not Touch anyone and my Daughter was a sleep in different room.
"Brebre1920" On February, 2009, my ex wife called me at about 7:30 pm and invited me to go to her House to eat and talk and try to resolve Custody Problems.
I decided to go, (stupid me) uhhh I hate that Wendsday. We started to talk, and I Felt the Provokation so I decided to Thank Her and I left.
9:30 pm, Police called me, and asked me: why did i leave a crime scene!? After talking to Police they told me to go there and Explain.... so I did go there.
"Barbe1920" The only reason why I survived and Managed to have Joint Custody is Because of Family Support, Friends and Savings that i had 10 years of work.
Many man that i talked to , don't even have the Money it requires to have a chance to get 50/50 joint custody, while women is offered free Representation, and given free legal advise. That is why after few arrests man give up on Custody and focuses on Crazy Charges from CHILD ABUSE to Kidnapping, Forced Entry, etc etc. continue
I know from my own experiance that men, or boys, are afraid of women for being more powerful or succesful than them.
Most guys that have the 'norm' way of thinking find me intimidating because I (okay more my sister has this problem on this point: shes a math boff x]) am more inteligent than them, they are rude and jelous of us. Girls that are intelligent with maths and science, and other so-called masculine subjects are seen as infemminite
This is the gender bias. And that's a bitch to everyone.
Also, guys tend to be intimidated by my, err, how do i put this... okay, example:
random guy: "suck me!" (acckk cant think of anything better, you get the picture)
me: "FUCK OFF"
A.k.a. they don't wish to accept that I don't tolarate their immatre bullshit, and I get nasty about it. No, this does not have anything to do with feminism.
THAT SAID, my bf says he likes my strong-willedness...
Don't be so quick to think men don't seek intelligence in women. I prefer intelligent women BIG TIME.. Actually I think men who are above average in intelligence value it more. I do think however that men can be somewhat put off by women that are more concerned about acquiring status, territory and resources in their career life. I care more about maternal qualities and not how "successful" she is in business, her social status or how much money she makes.
You say: "the men who are scared of successful women see them as competition."
Indeed perhaps competition to gain the very resources women demand men give them. Women are not independent as you think and require men to provide them resources in courtship, marriage and even after divorce. It is female nature and prostitution is an extension of her selective choice in sexual selection, male male competition and female choice.
Women are a threat to men only in what they demand men give them
There really is no purpose to argue with brebre1920. She's the epitome of feminist victim complex, a hypocrite, and will claim any statistics that are against feminism are "sexist".
i didnt mean to offend anyone, i was merely making an observation, and i don't think i'm the only one who noticed. i apologize if i said anything hurtful. but i don't think that there's any point in rationalizing what you've already illustrated so well. and i won't go out of my way to disrespect you, but i haven't seen where you've been respectful to any of the women here
from all u guys' arguments it is so obvious is that u want control over women whether directly or indirectly! u want her to stay stupid and ur sex toy and never speak up - never be a man huh?
do u ever ask urselves - out of all things that are directly hurting society like racism and the recession why u guys are so stuck on feminism? i mean if u think about beyond what a guy ever told u - what has feminism really done to hurt anyone?think about it - do u really want women out of the kitchen?
and i wonder....the "concern" u guys have against feminism and the way it "hurts men and women" ummmm are u also as concerned for women on here - teenagers even - who display their bodies in sexual ways and manners? or are u just enjoying the show? do u speak to young women about gaining confidence in themselves and ignoring society's shallow wants and needs? or do u just want women to stay as is and hate that feminism actually wants women to see past society? i think its the latter!
they are? so how come we still have good men if women wont be with them? in other words how come good men are still being reproduced if women are so intimidated by em? hmmmm food for thought....
You say: "how come good men are still being reproduced if women are so intimidated by em?"
Boys become good men, husbands and fathers by having a good man, husband and father around the house as an example. Our single mother epidemic will do nothing but destroy the prospect of good men, husbands and fathers. I ask you to look at the statistics on children from single mother and fatherless homes on my blog.
lol so u think women can never ever produce a good man?? wow so many people just must be wrong according to ur judgment! so many boys and girls were raised by single parent mothers (like will smith, i believe) and they do turn out well a lot of the time....it is true that a man is needed to but that is obvious! he helped create this child so it his duty! not a privilege! physical strength does not make a man! sports and women do not make a man! u should know that - stop being foolish!
just like single parent fathers can suck so can single parent mothers! no gender is better at parenting than another it is simply the initiative they take and in the case of women society stresses it repeatedly that she MUST be there and that she MUST be the one who is more feminine - its sooo silly- if u are REAL man u know that usually the mom molds u better! moral support of a dad is welcome but moms can do it very well too and guys know that- thats why ur so jealous lol
the single mother "epidemic" is a bit paradoxical! how can u be the one who sticks around and raises the children and be a part of an "epidemic"? men take women's jobs as a mother as a joke and its quite unfair and mean of u guys because we do the job and most of the time u do not! if u guys do it u get praised! but we hardly do unless its a particular day in may! its ridiculous how single mothers who do what they gotta do are so degraded when they should be celebrated for their strength!
without mothers men would die! point blank! u cant survive without us! there is no way!
and how does the single mother destroy a man? u mean make him gay? surprise honey! u cant make someone gay- just liek u cant make someone straight! dont be so male egotistical right now!
and if itd so fatherless why not talk to the fathers who left? why are u blaming the mothers who stay and do their motherfucking job! u fucking hypocrite how dare u? u guys will reap what u sow! answer my question above!!
You say: "and if itd so fatherless why not talk to the fathers who left?"
Because 70% of divorce is initiated by women and men don't have the right to be a father after divorce 90% of men only get "visitation" of every other weekend or 4 days a month Again men are not allowed to be involved in their child's life
You Say "why are u blaming the mothers who stay and do their motherfucking job"
I blame those who see single motherhood as a "lifestyle choice" and those 70% that abandon their family
"brebre1920" When my Ex wife and I divorced. I told her that I need my Daughter 50% of the time, so I will be there and Help raise My daughter.
She replied: NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHA NO NO Father is not Important person in children's life!!!
She wanted me to leave, she got me arrested just so i leave, and I did not.
I told my Attorney, My ex, her attorney that I will not except Nothing less than 50/50 joint Custdoy not even 1 minute, and that I will not pay my ex 1 cent.
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes.[U. S. D.H.H.S. Bureau of the Census] 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.[Center for Disease Control] 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.[National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools]
'Children living with single mothers are 5x more likely to be poor. To drop out of school and become teen parents. Children who live with their biological parents do better than those who live with single mothers, step families and cohabiting partners.'
and again if those are even true ----its also the absent fathers fault! if the mom was not there and the dad was u would still blame the mom! but with this u only blame her and not the purposefully absent father! therefore its not credible! it cant go one way just cause that way has a vagina
and duh! thats the point of a family! both have to be there! not just a man! why do u think suddenly if he is there then all is well and dandy? thats a simplistic way to think as well as terribly biased
He's not saying that, he's basically saying that the biological fathers are needed as well as mothers. The problem in your reasoning is:
***Because 70% of divorce is initiated by women and men don't have the right to be a father after divorce 90% of men only get "visitation" of every other weekend or 4 days a month Again men are not allowed to be involved in their child's life***
The majority of divorce is carried out by women, and I highly doubt that all of them had to escape abuse.
"Every society requires a critical mass of families that fit the traditional ideal, both to meet the needs of most children and to serve as a model for other adults who are raising children in difficult settings. We are at risk of losing that critical mass in America today."
kiroku it sounds like you've had poor experiences with women because of your poor attitude. based on what you've exhibited here, it's no wonder you have the ability to bring out the worst in women. i just hope you're not making women pay for what you've probably provoked. this is the type of behavior that makes it necessary to give women a little help to level the playing field. the programs are there b/c without them they'd have to put up with your disrespect. Don't like it? then change...
amen! msumonica! poor attitude brings for poor outcome! they most likely provoke women to act certain ways since as u can see they have all these biases and some hate towards women - what do they expect? it works on both sides and this is why SOME good women lose SOME good men - because we carry too much of our biases and past judgments with us and that is what fucks us up! guys think somehow they are immune to this fact cause they are "men"! ha!
Brebre, you shouldn't really be saying that, after all the assumptions of me and your own biased comments.
A lot of people around me don't find me a bad guy. I'm only provoked when people are really disrespecting me or someone that didn't deserve it, and I won't stand for it. I didn't stand for Redphoria's comment because it showed no respect for men. I know some great single-parent fathers in town, and Redphoria probably should've picked words better.
My disrespect? But then why are you disrespecting me? You're accusing me of hating women because I don't like how someone disrespected men, but here you are pretty much saying I caused/deserve whatever happened to me, and telling me that I need to change. You assume I have a bad attitude with women, and that is just not true. A lot of my friends are female, and I respect them.
I respect people until I find it pointless. I'm even being respectful of you after you pretty much disrespected me.
As for your shpeel about how women seek resources in men, I'll make you a deal. You get the right to evolve and become an advanced human being who is NOT a deadbeat dad or and we get the right to evolve to be advanced women who are independent women as many of us already are. =) We do not need your money and you, not ALL men, but you personally, need to ween yourself off of the ego trip you get from being the provider. That is what I advise you to do. Good relationships are never co-dependent.
Actually women a bit less self sufficient and or responsible when it comes to child support. 46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support as opposed to
26.9% of non-custodial fathers totally default on support. When you look at the numbers women are the deadbeats. Secondly if you don't need men's money why do you expect it in courtship and why do you expect to be supported after divorce?? If you don't need our money why to women get women only loans, grants and scholarships.
So you think that by taking out loans grants and scholarships, women are digging into "our" money? Who's money? That's not men's money... that's the nation's money. Maybe you should advocate women's rights in the workplace and involvement in the public sphere, if you believe that the nation's money belongs to men. It belongs to men and women equally.
Don't give me stats, they don't prove things. What about all the men who are unavailable to be surveyed, in the process of collecting those stats?
Indeed the two should be somewhat separated however men do make up the majority of the tax base and higher production capacity per capita. Thus it really is men's labor that pays for things.
That's besides the point though. Point being is that if women are independent and empowered why are women treated as powerless victims who are not independent or empowered. Why do you ask for so much of societies money and men's money??
I say: If business loans, grants and scholarships belong to both men and women, why are there WOMEN ONLY govt. business loans, grants, scholarships and welfare???!
Why do women need to be cared for unequally especially since they acquire 60% of ALL college degrees?
***You get the right to evolve and become an advanced human being who is NOT a deadbeat dad or and we get the right to evolve to be advanced women who are independent women as many of us already are. =)***
What the hell is your problem? Just by the wording I can tell you look down on men. I'm offended by your words, and it's not becuase of a 'fragile male ego,' it's because you place one gender over another, just like many of the feminists you say are 'evolving.'
You sicken me with your venom, but it's not enough to keep me from defending myself as a male. Maybe men would do better if they weren't constantly reminded that they can be betrayed by the woman they love, demonized by feminism, and belittled by just about everything feminism has done for "gender equality."
Many men have been stripped of almost all hope and self-respect by feminism for pretty much being born male.
kiroku - what venom does she have that sickens u?? see! ur proving her point! u compare her to being a snake! u compare her to ur past poor experiences with women but the difference is she does not know u - so how do u know she is the same way?? its so silly how easy it is to read men sometimes ----why dont u guys think positively more than just acting - it might help ur relationships better---and what did feminism even do to u? like where do guys get this bull? why does it threaten u so?
You can't see what I'm talking about? She puts way more positive emphasis on women than men, and it's seen as so with that "as many of us already are. =)." Not all men are deadbeat fathers, because I can look to my dad as an excellent example of a great single-parent dad. And what about the horrible mothers that are out there? They exist, and can be as bad as deadbeat fathers.
It's a "poison" spread by many Feminists, a sense of higher being or superiority.
You do have a point that I have no clue who she is, and if it's not what she intended, then I apologize to her, but she should've picked her words more carefully so it didn't look biased.
But Brebre... Why would you say ***its so silly how easy it is to read men sometimes*** just after making a point about assumption? You even go further to say that's my whole problem, while you too don't know a thing about me.
As for how it can be threatening? That's a simple one.
No matter how much anyone says it's for gender equivalence, fact of the matter is that most aspects are more gynocentric than anything. Gynocentric attitude, gynocentric policies, and gynocentric name. I would state more reasons, but that's my main reason to dislike it.
If Feminsm is for gender equality, then why does it mostly focus on one gender, and shunning most of the other? Where's the equality in that?
u didnt prove anything kiro! u just said that fem is gynocentric! ummmm how is that a threat?
just giving it a label does not mean u explained it - it just means u gave ur opinion ---and thats all
and fem focuses on women a lot because women need help....who does the men's movement focus on? haha- there's one for ya u hypocrite! i bet u wont answer it and u will just go around it
fem frequently speak out against men in media - did u research or just sit and listen to this guy?
I think I provided a good fact about it. How can anyone believe a movement with a gendered name is for the equality of the sexes? Not only that, the same gender is the one that is mainly focused on in a benefical way.
The Men's Rights Movement is the voice of men, as Feminism is the voice of women. It focuses on men's rights, but the problem with your attempt is that a man's rights are not equal to a woman's in the current time. Women have a lot more rights and freedoms compared to men.
I don't believe that there should only be one group, Feminism or MRM, but there shouldn't be only one group. The problem is political correctness, because Feminism is allowed to survive because it's seen as a group based on a victim, and men are the apparent oppressors. So, more than likely MRM will be seen as a hate group moreover a group to defend men's rights by many.
But if I remember correctly, men really are the minority today in the USA based on population.
If you are responding to negative misandranist ideas and language then the feminist community is not your target. You can join us in blaming society for the gendered stereotypes that create common notions of men being monsters and women being weak. As feminists, we are aware of this problem with the human race, and are aware that it is threatening to both genders.
I do not believe that feminists by definition perpetuate negative ideas about men. I, as a feminist, love men and do not believe they are weak. I do not believe they deserve to feel guilt or shame. However, many women have to work to fight the insults and discouragement that men inflict on women who are trying to gain equal power in society. Hence, the idea of the fragile male ego allows women to gain perspective on why SOME men see the need to degrade and intimidate us.
Women will never gain equal power in society but MORE power than men simply because no matter how much they become independent and acquire all the things men strive to give them they will continue to demand males to provide resources in dating and courtship and will not accept a "stay at home dad" or a man that does not produce and give his resources to her. Women will always demand something that males should compete for and provide to them. This is not equality.
i think that you are confusing radical feminism with actual feminism. most textbook definitions and feminists movements are about overcoming the oppressive ideas and standards that treat women as inferior to men. feminism is about creating opportunities for women to gain access to the means to empower and support themselves without having to rely permission from a patriarchal society to gain access to rights and privileges that should be made available to anyone regardless of gender bias."
***most textbook definitions and feminists movements are about overcoming the oppressive ideas and standards that treat women as inferior to men.***
Can't you see that the feminist movement doesn't help this. Many methods proposed by feminists are of granting special advantages to women. How exactly are those advantages carried out? By men. Men in the management, men in the government, and women and men supporting it.
Bottom line, women STILL ask men for help, just in a different way. How can you say that women in feminism want to support themselves, when their Ace is manipulating men to get an advantage? It's not empowerment, and it's not equality. In my opinion, it's cowardly and dishonest, and nothing even CLOSE to gender equality.
Let me tell you there are many different types of women with concerns with the oppression of women. For a woman to be concerned with these things don't make her a "feminist" or a femi-nazi. The feminists aren't the problem here, it's your system ran by incompetent males. IF you men are the grand gods you make your selves out to be, why don't yall stop joining the militaries and slaving for the men you worship and fight for the honor of yourselves and your families instead of picking. on women.
Lets try ti maintain perspective here, guys. You seem to view feminism as a "victory"? Lets go over the numbers. Marriage rates are the lowest in recorded history. Divorce is at an all time high. Out of wedlock births are also through the roof. 1 in 4 TEEN GIRLS has ONE OR MORE sexually transmitted disease. I could go on for hours, but you get the point I trust. The feminists are doomed, but men still have endless options, including foreign girls or staying single. The fems get lots of cats.
The part I really relate to is that the "fragile male ego" stuff is thrown at us if we defend ourselves. That to defend yourself when attacked, which people naturally do, is weakness if it's a man defending himself and the attackers are feminists. It's thrown at us when they're doing their usual thing of abusing, denigrating and harming men and men dare point out the harm. It's usually accompanied by grinning and mockery and followed up by chatter about how weak men are. They're a vile bunch.
feminism has gained popularity because women inherently believe that they should be treated like human beings who want to be valued and appreciated the same way that men do. the problem is that when either side feels threatened, it becomes a competition to vilify rather than accept the other as a strong, capable, fragile human being who will ultimately look after their own needs first. why do so many people reject the idea of equity in relationships?
The problem with it is that WOMEN will still expect from men. I'm not saying women should stay in the kitchen and raise the children, but even if they decide in climbing the ladder of successful status, they will STILL expect men to offer something.
Not exactly: Politicians sold us out by tossing bones @ the loudest whiners (women) in exchange for votes.
From there, DV, Child support, Rape, and a zillion other special interests grew into massive bureauracies that indoctrinate men/boys with shame.
The hijackd eduacational system pumping boys up with prozac & emasculating them (so girls can better compete with them after collage) has broken the spirit of now a 2nd generation of young men.
feminism's idea to get women forced into the work place is to lower the low status male's chances of reproduction and to oppress the majority of low status males even more and to wipe them out due to reducing their opportunities of reproduction. It's correct, men are required to have stable financial supporting skills to even obtain mating value with the lowest mate value women (without looking down on them). Mating is no problem for women as they now marry the state&man's credit card in alimony
Indeed, one of many motives. Less reproduction takes place, often resulting in divorce. Divorces are good for corporations (2 households full of products), and immigration (needed as a tax base to make up for the shortcomings.)
Single mother kids fill our prison.
Immigrants come in, politicians sell out giving them special status, more conflict ensues, calling for more government intervention, which requires more internation banker loans. (a very complex scam to destroy society.)
From my video you can see where a double standard exists in which women no longer need things from men but are glad to take. Rarely if ever will the offer and insist to pay or take us out. Now they have their cake and can eat it to.
Agreed and as such through feminist doctrine instituted as law such as male subjection to automatic childlessness, forced labor through alimony and child support and loss of property included.
FEMINISTS HAVE MADE MARRIAGE AND THE DESIRE OF ANY MAN TO HAVE A CHILD A LIABILITY AND RISK TO MEN AND MEN ONLY.
For women, the guarantee of "ownership" of offspring and resource provision from an isolated resource producing male and government husbandry welfare.
Women will never stop requiring of men the very things they say they don't want from us. Feminism is a hypocritical radical ideology designed to lie to women and tell them that men are the source of their dependence on us. That men oppress them.
Until you actually reach a point that you do not need or indeed even want men you will not be independent from us. To truly not need or want men would be an awful thing for the both of us. On behalf of all men I would like you to know that our intention was never to oppress you in this respect but to seek out the things you were looking for in us. You are in essence the source of your own bondage to men. Please stop blaming us for wanting to or having done these things for you.
My very point being that women can not stop being attracted to high status,wealthy and powerful men. Until you stop looking for protection and provision from men we will continue fighting to do so as it is a proven fact that wealthy and powerful men have more mating opportunities with females. As the path of least resistance is always the path to equalization in all mathmatical and natural equations. Women will continue to seek these things in men because it is easier and because they can.
Oh and btw, feminism is not about misandry you ignorant fucks. Feminism is about gender equality. Maybe you should check your male privilege before you start spewing absolute bullshit.
electrobutt 2 months ago
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AhzekAhriman1 1 month ago
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equality is gender equality. Feminism is about women believing they are better than men. Get it right thrush ferret.
AhzekAhriman1 1 month ago
@electrobutt there is no such thing as male privilege, at least since the 70s. times have changed.
ohiogrinder 1 month ago
Are you aware of what's known as the glass ceiling? The invisible barrier that prevents women from getting to the top. There are more poor women in this country than poor men, women still make 77 cents to every dollar men make, and yet you want to complain that women demand these things from men but don't reciprocate. I'm sorry, but unless and until you are on the front lines of the feminist movement trying to get women equal pay and opportunity then you need to shut the fuck up.
electrobutt 2 months ago
@electrobutt show me some real facts, not MSNBC aka Misandrist Syndicated Network of Bull Crap supported facts.
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PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT LADIES! You are worse than MEN!
• 46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support.
• 26.9% of non-custodial fathers totally default on support.
• 66.2% of single custodial mothers work less than full time.
• 10.2% of single custodial fathers work less than full time.
• 46.2% of single custodial mothers receive public assistance.
• 20.8% of single custodial fathers receive public assistance.
SacredSocietyAP 4 months ago
Women are the most egotistical things on the planet..If you don't tell them their shit don't stink they throw a hissy fit...BTW...Women don't pay child support at TWICE the rate as mean and abuse children FOUR times as much.>These are facts not just my opinion...But women yap 300 times as much as men thats why you will always hear more bad things about men.
SacredSocietyAP 4 months ago 2
Fucking brilliant!
truthjusticeca 9 months ago
I agree with everything he said. Men are afraid to marry women these days because of feminism, the man hating, divorce, etc.
YoungnRomantic 11 months ago 3
And its funny how many men support this stuff, bounce from website to website, blog to youtube page stroking yaselves totally ignoring the real issues. it isn't just you men who are the victims of feminism. Yall totally don't see how yall are being used against yourselves and against women. I wonder how many of you are in happy relationships that isn't centered on a woman being submissive or subservient to you.
1goddesstruth 1 year ago
It is very interesting the stuff thats coming out of these mens groups, and mens right activists, these Henry Makow worshipers. Yall don't realize what it is you are doing when you say 'feminists" or women". You say many different things about different issues, different groups that can't be simplified into the tiny boxes yall build for them. How you mostly made at is successful white women and white women who want what men want, not feminists and not women.
1goddesstruth 1 year ago
@1goddesstruth Blah blah. Another misandrist talking shit. Everything is always the fault of "You men". This is why women aren't fit to be leaders. No accountability for your choices in life.
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HanshDufeaf 1 year ago
Funny how feminists say that we have fragile egos, yet I get scolded and cussed out by women themselves for recommending American men to date and marry non-western women overseas.
American women get really heated when there are men who are advocating international dating. I guess that American women subconsciously know that foreign women surpass them in many ways...
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perogie34 1 year ago
@perogie34 It takes balls to make a politically controversial video. How many videos have you made?
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
Its pretty funny how the only people who take feminists seriously are other feminists. They are so irrational and outraged, even most women can't stand them. It's cute, really is.
javofuc 1 year ago
Capitalism has merely made women want to become more like men by brainwashing them to believe in "equality." There is no such thing as equality except in terms of rights. That too unfortunately can lead down a slippery slope.
DefenceSpeech 1 year ago
We fight for the right to give things to women; so they should STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING!!!
LordXenocide 1 year ago 2
Lol @ modern women complaining and getting angry over nothing.
Sucks to be a female is all I can say.
0BlackDude0 1 year ago
NO woman on this planet has out performed me at anything that matters. Other than societal held virtues like having babies,getting rich, sports endeavors, intellectual pursuits, political positions and many more. Things I have done that equal what the most exceptional women have done are pass gas,sleep, do the laundry, dream , evacuate my bowls, eat a tasty meal, burp, take a shower , read,masturbate, take the bottom for her, get sick, throw up, cuss god, scratch my ass nose and gossip
jobedied 1 year ago
tell it brother!
sockoblocko 1 year ago
I disagree that war is natural behaviour, other animals fight for territory but killing each other is something very few species do, it's not advantageous, a waste of energy, life and genes.
MissMysterics 1 year ago
@MissMysterics Very few species kill each other? Life feeds on life. Violence and the capacity to murder, is inherent in all carnivorous/predatory species of animal. Interspecial conflict is also common for pack animals, and for hominids. War? Yes, this cannot truly be witnessed on the scale as it is in humans, except for perhaps with hive animals like ants, and different kinds of bees, however it is perfectly natural to kill for means of domination, as well as to acquire or defend territory.
DefenceSpeech 1 year ago
truly both masculism and feminism are horrid.
The problem lies in the fact that both movements are gender oriented. Neither gender is causing these issues. Rather, it's gender-specific focus is the issue. People should be equally empowered, whilst largely ignoring gender. You represent a biased outlook. Masculists claim to speak for the unspoken concerns of men, but assuredly, not all men think like you. That goes the same, or even moreso with feminists.
nintentubeWii 1 year ago
" People should be equally empowered whilst largly ignoring gender.'
Hello?! that's what feminism is about, anyone that says otherwise is a a faker.
MissMysterics 1 year ago
'people should be equally empowered, whilst largly ignoring gender"
Um hello?! That's what feminism is about.
Andyone that says otherwise is a faker.
MissMysterics 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I'm so glad you're not contributing to the gene pool. That's all I can say.
DianaBoston 1 year ago
@DianaBoston: YOU SAY: " I'm so glad you're not contributing to the gene pool. That's all I can say."
lol Really, is that all Diana?
Are you done threatening me with denial of sex for speaking my thoughts, feelings and experience as a man in our culture?
Do you think you will silence me by such a threat you misandrist feminist? How "empowering" to women.
Red0660 1 year ago 17
@Red0660 Always nice to hear your opinion Diana. In fact, opinions such as yours is what gives MRA`s the drive and determination to continue our fight against feminism. I would just like to take this opportunity to say, thank you and keep up the good work.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
@DianaBoston More shaming tactics from feminazis. Cute.
daboys1215 1 year ago
Nice muscle shot; very intimidating. "Women have never displayed the same and equal willingness to provide to men." Oh, really? What do you call pregnancy and childbirth? How about repeated pregnancy and childbirth?
checkoutlinejunk 2 years ago
@checkoutlinejunk: Children are an emotional and financial liability to a man. Women control sex, conception and own the children..
So in essence pregnancy is not working for a man, it is a burden to a man to support the woman financially even after she leaves you and yes.....takes your child away from you.. Again, men are not allowed to have children...
Red0660 2 years ago 6
@checkoutlinejunk Do you think women really have any reciprocal obligations to a man that they can not abort or walk away from..
Understand that marriage is a commitment from a man to a woman, women can leave at any time...
Red0660 2 years ago 4
Nice strawman checkoutline junk.
Eogha 2 years ago
why don't you show your face?
lanaabelle 2 years ago
You Say: "why don't you show your face?"
Well for two reasons:
#1 I am a private person and live a private life. In general I am not so altruistic and socially affluent . I prefer only a few close friends. There are not many organizations or bureaucracies that I want to be a part of. In fact I can think of none. They are generally self serving and lack humanity.
However I am reaching out to the MRM publicly because they need me and I need them. However I do not want a public persona.
Red0660 2 years ago
You Say: "why don't you show your face?"
Well for two reasons: #2
It is a dangerous proposition to speak out against political correctness and Marxist ideology. Many men have lost their jobs from speaking out about feminism specifically.
However if I have to make myself known to further our cause I am willing to make that sacrifice.
When I say many men I mean many many men especially in universities have lost their jobs if they try to speak out.
Red0660 2 years ago
Again let me make it quite clear, you take a great risk if you speak thoughts that offend the feminist hegemony and ideology.
Speech that threatens the feminist establishment is a dangerous and brave act. Again I am willing to make the sacrifice of my identity and take personal risk should the time come.
This cause is something bigger than myself. It is something I deeply believe in.
I hold tremendous honor for the men in our ranks and will sacrifice what is needed for us all.
Red0660 2 years ago
I can't concentrate on anything you say because I just keep watching you twist your beard.
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thestreetdogg 2 years ago
I have Joint Custody, I am a Father. I Work, yes I do change her Diapers, I feed her, educate, She can say words in 3 different Languages etc etc.
My ultimate goal is to raise my Daughter the best possible way I can, and make sure she will not be a Femenist.
I will teach her that : MAN is important in her life.
Boys are good.
Never hit a MAN, and anyone.
That Boys are not disposable.
MAN is not a "deadbeat".
and Never buy a Product that Disrespect MAN.
thestreetdogg 2 years ago 3
"brebre1920" of course, later all charges Dropped :Judge NO crime was ever commited". And that's because I proved that she called me, and not the way she stated it as "HE CAME AND SCARED MY DAUGHTER".
Just that cost me around $6,000. Yeah not Guilty but it cost me and it did not cost her a dime. They did not even charge her for false accustions or anything!
Shame on the Nazi law's...
thestreetdogg 2 years ago 2
Your story is inspirational. I really do not want to get married, but I do want a family one day. Marriage is like committing finical suicide, while you really have nothing to gain, yet everything to lose. But how was your ex-wife before you married her?
hpufo 2 years ago 2
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thestreetdogg 2 years ago
"Brebre1920" Police asked me: Why did i Remove a Necklace from My Daughter and I Attacked the Mother. I denied those Lies.While being Questioned, One Police officer who was talking to my wife came and told the Officer" don't believe him anything he says". He than Arrested me on: Child Abuse class A felony, Disorderly conduct, Forced Entry, Attacking my Wife, and Leaving the Crime scene. I swear i just left and did not Touch anyone and my Daughter was a sleep in different room.
thestreetdogg 2 years ago 2
"Brebre1920" On February, 2009, my ex wife called me at about 7:30 pm and invited me to go to her House to eat and talk and try to resolve Custody Problems.
I decided to go, (stupid me) uhhh I hate that Wendsday. We started to talk, and I Felt the Provokation so I decided to Thank Her and I left.
9:30 pm, Police called me, and asked me: why did i leave a crime scene!? After talking to Police they told me to go there and Explain.... so I did go there.
thestreetdogg 2 years ago 2
"Barbe1920" The only reason why I survived and Managed to have Joint Custody is Because of Family Support, Friends and Savings that i had 10 years of work.
Many man that i talked to , don't even have the Money it requires to have a chance to get 50/50 joint custody, while women is offered free Representation, and given free legal advise. That is why after few arrests man give up on Custody and focuses on Crazy Charges from CHILD ABUSE to Kidnapping, Forced Entry, etc etc. continue
thestreetdogg 2 years ago 2
The bubble at 3:05: I agree. I don't mind paying on a date. Thats fair, and I say that from a feminist point of view.
001BitterSweetIrony 2 years ago
I know from my own experiance that men, or boys, are afraid of women for being more powerful or succesful than them.
Most guys that have the 'norm' way of thinking find me intimidating because I (okay more my sister has this problem on this point: shes a math boff x]) am more inteligent than them, they are rude and jelous of us. Girls that are intelligent with maths and science, and other so-called masculine subjects are seen as infemminite
001BitterSweetIrony 2 years ago
This is the gender bias. And that's a bitch to everyone.
Also, guys tend to be intimidated by my, err, how do i put this... okay, example:
random guy: "suck me!" (acckk cant think of anything better, you get the picture)
me: "FUCK OFF"
A.k.a. they don't wish to accept that I don't tolarate their immatre bullshit, and I get nasty about it. No, this does not have anything to do with feminism.
THAT SAID, my bf says he likes my strong-willedness...
Teenage boys are confusing lol :]
001BitterSweetIrony 2 years ago
Don't be so quick to think men don't seek intelligence in women. I prefer intelligent women BIG TIME.. Actually I think men who are above average in intelligence value it more. I do think however that men can be somewhat put off by women that are more concerned about acquiring status, territory and resources in their career life. I care more about maternal qualities and not how "successful" she is in business, her social status or how much money she makes.
Red0660 2 years ago
You say: "the men who are scared of successful women see them as competition."
Indeed perhaps competition to gain the very resources women demand men give them. Women are not independent as you think and require men to provide them resources in courtship, marriage and even after divorce. It is female nature and prostitution is an extension of her selective choice in sexual selection, male male competition and female choice.
Women are a threat to men only in what they demand men give them
Red0660 2 years ago
There really is no purpose to argue with brebre1920. She's the epitome of feminist victim complex, a hypocrite, and will claim any statistics that are against feminism are "sexist".
It's just a waste of time.
AliasThatIsFake 2 years ago
i didnt mean to offend anyone, i was merely making an observation, and i don't think i'm the only one who noticed. i apologize if i said anything hurtful. but i don't think that there's any point in rationalizing what you've already illustrated so well. and i won't go out of my way to disrespect you, but i haven't seen where you've been respectful to any of the women here
msumonica 2 years ago
from all u guys' arguments it is so obvious is that u want control over women whether directly or indirectly! u want her to stay stupid and ur sex toy and never speak up - never be a man huh?
do u ever ask urselves - out of all things that are directly hurting society like racism and the recession why u guys are so stuck on feminism? i mean if u think about beyond what a guy ever told u - what has feminism really done to hurt anyone?think about it - do u really want women out of the kitchen?
brebre1920 2 years ago
and i wonder....the "concern" u guys have against feminism and the way it "hurts men and women" ummmm are u also as concerned for women on here - teenagers even - who display their bodies in sexual ways and manners? or are u just enjoying the show? do u speak to young women about gaining confidence in themselves and ignoring society's shallow wants and needs? or do u just want women to stay as is and hate that feminism actually wants women to see past society? i think its the latter!
brebre1920 2 years ago
Women are intimidated by good fathers, good men, men who work, and men who are assertive
crh2010 2 years ago
~ excellent comment, crh2010 ~
MrCoolprick 2 years ago
they are? so how come we still have good men if women wont be with them? in other words how come good men are still being reproduced if women are so intimidated by em? hmmmm food for thought....
brebre1920 2 years ago
You say: "how come good men are still being reproduced if women are so intimidated by em?"
Boys become good men, husbands and fathers by having a good man, husband and father around the house as an example. Our single mother epidemic will do nothing but destroy the prospect of good men, husbands and fathers. I ask you to look at the statistics on children from single mother and fatherless homes on my blog.
Red0660 2 years ago
lol so u think women can never ever produce a good man?? wow so many people just must be wrong according to ur judgment! so many boys and girls were raised by single parent mothers (like will smith, i believe) and they do turn out well a lot of the time....it is true that a man is needed to but that is obvious! he helped create this child so it his duty! not a privilege! physical strength does not make a man! sports and women do not make a man! u should know that - stop being foolish!
brebre1920 2 years ago
just like single parent fathers can suck so can single parent mothers! no gender is better at parenting than another it is simply the initiative they take and in the case of women society stresses it repeatedly that she MUST be there and that she MUST be the one who is more feminine - its sooo silly- if u are REAL man u know that usually the mom molds u better! moral support of a dad is welcome but moms can do it very well too and guys know that- thats why ur so jealous lol
brebre1920 2 years ago
the single mother "epidemic" is a bit paradoxical! how can u be the one who sticks around and raises the children and be a part of an "epidemic"? men take women's jobs as a mother as a joke and its quite unfair and mean of u guys because we do the job and most of the time u do not! if u guys do it u get praised! but we hardly do unless its a particular day in may! its ridiculous how single mothers who do what they gotta do are so degraded when they should be celebrated for their strength!
brebre1920 2 years ago
without mothers men would die! point blank! u cant survive without us! there is no way!
and how does the single mother destroy a man? u mean make him gay? surprise honey! u cant make someone gay- just liek u cant make someone straight! dont be so male egotistical right now!
and if itd so fatherless why not talk to the fathers who left? why are u blaming the mothers who stay and do their motherfucking job! u fucking hypocrite how dare u? u guys will reap what u sow! answer my question above!!
brebre1920 2 years ago
You say: "and if itd so fatherless why not talk to the fathers who left?"
Because 70% of divorce is initiated by women and men don't have the right to be a father after divorce 90% of men only get "visitation" of every other weekend or 4 days a month Again men are not allowed to be involved in their child's life
You Say "why are u blaming the mothers who stay and do their motherfucking job"
I blame those who see single motherhood as a "lifestyle choice" and those 70% that abandon their family
Red0660 2 years ago
"brebre1920" When my Ex wife and I divorced. I told her that I need my Daughter 50% of the time, so I will be there and Help raise My daughter.
She replied: NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHA NO NO Father is not Important person in children's life!!!
She wanted me to leave, she got me arrested just so i leave, and I did not.
I told my Attorney, My ex, her attorney that I will not except Nothing less than 50/50 joint Custdoy not even 1 minute, and that I will not pay my ex 1 cent.
thestreetdogg 2 years ago
how do single mothers destroy men?? answer that question right fucking now!
brebre1920 2 years ago
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes.[U. S. D.H.H.S. Bureau of the Census] 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.[Center for Disease Control] 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.[National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools]
Red0660 2 years ago
70% of juveniles in state operated institutions come from fatherless homes
[U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept., 1988] 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home.
[Fulton County Georgia Jail Populations and Texas Dept. of Corrections, 1992]
Red0660 2 years ago
What does this mean? Children from fatherless homes are:
4.6 times more likely to commit suicide,
6.6 times to become teenaged mothers (if they are girls, of course),
24.3 times more likely to run away,
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders,
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions,
10.8 times more likely to commit rape,
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school,
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenager.
Red0660 2 years ago
'Children living with single mothers are 5x more likely to be poor. To drop out of school and become teen parents. Children who live with their biological parents do better than those who live with single mothers, step families and cohabiting partners.'
-President Barrack Obama from his book
The Audacity of Hope
Red0660 2 years ago
and again if those are even true ----its also the absent fathers fault! if the mom was not there and the dad was u would still blame the mom! but with this u only blame her and not the purposefully absent father! therefore its not credible! it cant go one way just cause that way has a vagina
and duh! thats the point of a family! both have to be there! not just a man! why do u think suddenly if he is there then all is well and dandy? thats a simplistic way to think as well as terribly biased
brebre1920 2 years ago
He's not saying that, he's basically saying that the biological fathers are needed as well as mothers. The problem in your reasoning is:
***Because 70% of divorce is initiated by women and men don't have the right to be a father after divorce 90% of men only get "visitation" of every other weekend or 4 days a month Again men are not allowed to be involved in their child's life***
The majority of divorce is carried out by women, and I highly doubt that all of them had to escape abuse.
Kiroku95 2 years ago
"Every society requires a critical mass of families that fit the traditional ideal, both to meet the needs of most children and to serve as a model for other adults who are raising children in difficult settings. We are at risk of losing that critical mass in America today."
Hillary R. Clinton, It Takes a Village, p. 50
Red0660 2 years ago
kiroku it sounds like you've had poor experiences with women because of your poor attitude. based on what you've exhibited here, it's no wonder you have the ability to bring out the worst in women. i just hope you're not making women pay for what you've probably provoked. this is the type of behavior that makes it necessary to give women a little help to level the playing field. the programs are there b/c without them they'd have to put up with your disrespect. Don't like it? then change...
msumonica 2 years ago
amen! msumonica! poor attitude brings for poor outcome! they most likely provoke women to act certain ways since as u can see they have all these biases and some hate towards women - what do they expect? it works on both sides and this is why SOME good women lose SOME good men - because we carry too much of our biases and past judgments with us and that is what fucks us up! guys think somehow they are immune to this fact cause they are "men"! ha!
brebre1920 2 years ago
Brebre, you shouldn't really be saying that, after all the assumptions of me and your own biased comments.
A lot of people around me don't find me a bad guy. I'm only provoked when people are really disrespecting me or someone that didn't deserve it, and I won't stand for it. I didn't stand for Redphoria's comment because it showed no respect for men. I know some great single-parent fathers in town, and Redphoria probably should've picked words better.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 2
My disrespect? But then why are you disrespecting me? You're accusing me of hating women because I don't like how someone disrespected men, but here you are pretty much saying I caused/deserve whatever happened to me, and telling me that I need to change. You assume I have a bad attitude with women, and that is just not true. A lot of my friends are female, and I respect them.
I respect people until I find it pointless. I'm even being respectful of you after you pretty much disrespected me.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 2
I personally dont care.......
MerrySexton424 2 years ago
As for your shpeel about how women seek resources in men, I'll make you a deal. You get the right to evolve and become an advanced human being who is NOT a deadbeat dad or and we get the right to evolve to be advanced women who are independent women as many of us already are. =) We do not need your money and you, not ALL men, but you personally, need to ween yourself off of the ego trip you get from being the provider. That is what I advise you to do. Good relationships are never co-dependent.
redphoria 2 years ago
Actually women a bit less self sufficient and or responsible when it comes to child support. 46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support as opposed to
26.9% of non-custodial fathers totally default on support. When you look at the numbers women are the deadbeats. Secondly if you don't need men's money why do you expect it in courtship and why do you expect to be supported after divorce?? If you don't need our money why to women get women only loans, grants and scholarships.
Red0660 2 years ago
So you think that by taking out loans grants and scholarships, women are digging into "our" money? Who's money? That's not men's money... that's the nation's money. Maybe you should advocate women's rights in the workplace and involvement in the public sphere, if you believe that the nation's money belongs to men. It belongs to men and women equally.
Don't give me stats, they don't prove things. What about all the men who are unavailable to be surveyed, in the process of collecting those stats?
redphoria 2 years ago
Indeed the two should be somewhat separated however men do make up the majority of the tax base and higher production capacity per capita. Thus it really is men's labor that pays for things.
That's besides the point though. Point being is that if women are independent and empowered why are women treated as powerless victims who are not independent or empowered. Why do you ask for so much of societies money and men's money??
Red0660 2 years ago
YOU SAY: "It belongs to men and women equally."
I say: If business loans, grants and scholarships belong to both men and women, why are there WOMEN ONLY govt. business loans, grants, scholarships and welfare???!
Why do women need to be cared for unequally especially since they acquire 60% of ALL college degrees?
Red0660 2 years ago
***You get the right to evolve and become an advanced human being who is NOT a deadbeat dad or and we get the right to evolve to be advanced women who are independent women as many of us already are. =)***
What the hell is your problem? Just by the wording I can tell you look down on men. I'm offended by your words, and it's not becuase of a 'fragile male ego,' it's because you place one gender over another, just like many of the feminists you say are 'evolving.'
Kiroku95 2 years ago 3
*because
You sicken me with your venom, but it's not enough to keep me from defending myself as a male. Maybe men would do better if they weren't constantly reminded that they can be betrayed by the woman they love, demonized by feminism, and belittled by just about everything feminism has done for "gender equality."
Many men have been stripped of almost all hope and self-respect by feminism for pretty much being born male.
Kiroku95 2 years ago
kiroku - what venom does she have that sickens u?? see! ur proving her point! u compare her to being a snake! u compare her to ur past poor experiences with women but the difference is she does not know u - so how do u know she is the same way?? its so silly how easy it is to read men sometimes ----why dont u guys think positively more than just acting - it might help ur relationships better---and what did feminism even do to u? like where do guys get this bull? why does it threaten u so?
brebre1920 2 years ago
You can't see what I'm talking about? She puts way more positive emphasis on women than men, and it's seen as so with that "as many of us already are. =)." Not all men are deadbeat fathers, because I can look to my dad as an excellent example of a great single-parent dad. And what about the horrible mothers that are out there? They exist, and can be as bad as deadbeat fathers.
It's a "poison" spread by many Feminists, a sense of higher being or superiority.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 3
You do have a point that I have no clue who she is, and if it's not what she intended, then I apologize to her, but she should've picked her words more carefully so it didn't look biased.
But Brebre... Why would you say ***its so silly how easy it is to read men sometimes*** just after making a point about assumption? You even go further to say that's my whole problem, while you too don't know a thing about me.
Can you say that you were being any different?
Kiroku95 2 years ago 3
As for how it can be threatening? That's a simple one.
No matter how much anyone says it's for gender equivalence, fact of the matter is that most aspects are more gynocentric than anything. Gynocentric attitude, gynocentric policies, and gynocentric name. I would state more reasons, but that's my main reason to dislike it.
If Feminsm is for gender equality, then why does it mostly focus on one gender, and shunning most of the other? Where's the equality in that?
Kiroku95 2 years ago 2
u didnt prove anything kiro! u just said that fem is gynocentric! ummmm how is that a threat?
just giving it a label does not mean u explained it - it just means u gave ur opinion ---and thats all
and fem focuses on women a lot because women need help....who does the men's movement focus on? haha- there's one for ya u hypocrite! i bet u wont answer it and u will just go around it
fem frequently speak out against men in media - did u research or just sit and listen to this guy?
brebre1920 2 years ago
I think I provided a good fact about it. How can anyone believe a movement with a gendered name is for the equality of the sexes? Not only that, the same gender is the one that is mainly focused on in a benefical way.
The Men's Rights Movement is the voice of men, as Feminism is the voice of women. It focuses on men's rights, but the problem with your attempt is that a man's rights are not equal to a woman's in the current time. Women have a lot more rights and freedoms compared to men.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 2
I don't believe that there should only be one group, Feminism or MRM, but there shouldn't be only one group. The problem is political correctness, because Feminism is allowed to survive because it's seen as a group based on a victim, and men are the apparent oppressors. So, more than likely MRM will be seen as a hate group moreover a group to defend men's rights by many.
But if I remember correctly, men really are the minority today in the USA based on population.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 2
If you are responding to negative misandranist ideas and language then the feminist community is not your target. You can join us in blaming society for the gendered stereotypes that create common notions of men being monsters and women being weak. As feminists, we are aware of this problem with the human race, and are aware that it is threatening to both genders.
redphoria 2 years ago
I do not believe that feminists by definition perpetuate negative ideas about men. I, as a feminist, love men and do not believe they are weak. I do not believe they deserve to feel guilt or shame. However, many women have to work to fight the insults and discouragement that men inflict on women who are trying to gain equal power in society. Hence, the idea of the fragile male ego allows women to gain perspective on why SOME men see the need to degrade and intimidate us.
redphoria 2 years ago
Women will never gain equal power in society but MORE power than men simply because no matter how much they become independent and acquire all the things men strive to give them they will continue to demand males to provide resources in dating and courtship and will not accept a "stay at home dad" or a man that does not produce and give his resources to her. Women will always demand something that males should compete for and provide to them. This is not equality.
Red0660 2 years ago
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redphoria 2 years ago
why cant we see your face? fragile male ego perhaps?
harwood39 2 years ago
lol....
Red0660 2 years ago
i think that you are confusing radical feminism with actual feminism. most textbook definitions and feminists movements are about overcoming the oppressive ideas and standards that treat women as inferior to men. feminism is about creating opportunities for women to gain access to the means to empower and support themselves without having to rely permission from a patriarchal society to gain access to rights and privileges that should be made available to anyone regardless of gender bias."
msumonica 2 years ago
equality between women and MEN perhaps?
harwood39 2 years ago
***most textbook definitions and feminists movements are about overcoming the oppressive ideas and standards that treat women as inferior to men.***
Can't you see that the feminist movement doesn't help this. Many methods proposed by feminists are of granting special advantages to women. How exactly are those advantages carried out? By men. Men in the management, men in the government, and women and men supporting it.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 3
Bottom line, women STILL ask men for help, just in a different way. How can you say that women in feminism want to support themselves, when their Ace is manipulating men to get an advantage? It's not empowerment, and it's not equality. In my opinion, it's cowardly and dishonest, and nothing even CLOSE to gender equality.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 18
If I'm wrong, then why don't men have advantages handed to them? Men are strong and independent because they stand on their own two feet.
Many feminists are weak and cowardly because they want an edge over men, not to be equal.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 8
Let me tell you there are many different types of women with concerns with the oppression of women. For a woman to be concerned with these things don't make her a "feminist" or a femi-nazi. The feminists aren't the problem here, it's your system ran by incompetent males. IF you men are the grand gods you make your selves out to be, why don't yall stop joining the militaries and slaving for the men you worship and fight for the honor of yourselves and your families instead of picking. on women.
1goddesstruth 1 year ago
Lets try ti maintain perspective here, guys. You seem to view feminism as a "victory"? Lets go over the numbers. Marriage rates are the lowest in recorded history. Divorce is at an all time high. Out of wedlock births are also through the roof. 1 in 4 TEEN GIRLS has ONE OR MORE sexually transmitted disease. I could go on for hours, but you get the point I trust. The feminists are doomed, but men still have endless options, including foreign girls or staying single. The fems get lots of cats.
gulskjegg 2 years ago 3
The part I really relate to is that the "fragile male ego" stuff is thrown at us if we defend ourselves. That to defend yourself when attacked, which people naturally do, is weakness if it's a man defending himself and the attackers are feminists. It's thrown at us when they're doing their usual thing of abusing, denigrating and harming men and men dare point out the harm. It's usually accompanied by grinning and mockery and followed up by chatter about how weak men are. They're a vile bunch.
fuckfeministlies 2 years ago 8
feminism has gained popularity because women inherently believe that they should be treated like human beings who want to be valued and appreciated the same way that men do. the problem is that when either side feels threatened, it becomes a competition to vilify rather than accept the other as a strong, capable, fragile human being who will ultimately look after their own needs first. why do so many people reject the idea of equity in relationships?
msumonica 2 years ago
The problem with it is that WOMEN will still expect from men. I'm not saying women should stay in the kitchen and raise the children, but even if they decide in climbing the ladder of successful status, they will STILL expect men to offer something.
Kiroku95 2 years ago 4
Good vids...so true!
mala265 2 years ago
No no no, most men today are the reason feminism has gotten so out of control, men have gotten soft.
charismacage 2 years ago
Not exactly: Politicians sold us out by tossing bones @ the loudest whiners (women) in exchange for votes.
From there, DV, Child support, Rape, and a zillion other special interests grew into massive bureauracies that indoctrinate men/boys with shame.
The hijackd eduacational system pumping boys up with prozac & emasculating them (so girls can better compete with them after collage) has broken the spirit of now a 2nd generation of young men.
In a nutshell: Welcome societal collapse.
luckyvet 2 years ago
So true men have needs too!
crypter27 2 years ago
feminism's idea to get women forced into the work place is to lower the low status male's chances of reproduction and to oppress the majority of low status males even more and to wipe them out due to reducing their opportunities of reproduction. It's correct, men are required to have stable financial supporting skills to even obtain mating value with the lowest mate value women (without looking down on them). Mating is no problem for women as they now marry the state&man's credit card in alimony
UnionMetalhead 3 years ago 3
Indeed, one of many motives. Less reproduction takes place, often resulting in divorce. Divorces are good for corporations (2 households full of products), and immigration (needed as a tax base to make up for the shortcomings.)
Single mother kids fill our prison.
Immigrants come in, politicians sell out giving them special status, more conflict ensues, calling for more government intervention, which requires more internation banker loans. (a very complex scam to destroy society.)
luckyvet 2 years ago
You say: "Single mother kids fill our prison."
Agreed, and you've cited one of the many fatherless children statistics.
Women initiate 70+% of all divorce. I ask our president who shames men on fathers day, who is it really abandoning their families?
90% of men loose their children in divorce. Fatherhood has been outlawed.
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home.
[Fulton County Georgia Jail Populations and Texas Dept. of Corrections, 1992]
Red0660 2 years ago
"Women initiate 70+% of all divorce."? where did u get this stat? pray tell! and the fact that u believe it makes me scared
"Fatherhood has been outlawed."? by whom? and what state?
"85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home." -so why not blame the "fathers"?
"90% of men loose their children in divorce."- do they fight till the very end for em? or take it as a convenience?
brebre1920 2 years ago
From my video you can see where a double standard exists in which women no longer need things from men but are glad to take. Rarely if ever will the offer and insist to pay or take us out. Now they have their cake and can eat it to.
Red0660 3 years ago
We have always been viewed as meal tickets, from the beginings of time.
Today we have been reduced to slaves by threat of government shotgun.
Our biggest enemy is our dick, exercising extreme self control & thinking with the 'big head' is my trademark advise to young men.
Your vids are wicked, keep it up bro.
luckyvet 2 years ago
Agreed and as such through feminist doctrine instituted as law such as male subjection to automatic childlessness, forced labor through alimony and child support and loss of property included.
FEMINISTS HAVE MADE MARRIAGE AND THE DESIRE OF ANY MAN TO HAVE A CHILD A LIABILITY AND RISK TO MEN AND MEN ONLY.
For women, the guarantee of "ownership" of offspring and resource provision from an isolated resource producing male and government husbandry welfare.
Red0660 2 years ago
Women will never stop requiring of men the very things they say they don't want from us. Feminism is a hypocritical radical ideology designed to lie to women and tell them that men are the source of their dependence on us. That men oppress them.
Red0660 3 years ago
Until you actually reach a point that you do not need or indeed even want men you will not be independent from us. To truly not need or want men would be an awful thing for the both of us. On behalf of all men I would like you to know that our intention was never to oppress you in this respect but to seek out the things you were looking for in us. You are in essence the source of your own bondage to men. Please stop blaming us for wanting to or having done these things for you.
Red0660 3 years ago
My very point being that women can not stop being attracted to high status,wealthy and powerful men. Until you stop looking for protection and provision from men we will continue fighting to do so as it is a proven fact that wealthy and powerful men have more mating opportunities with females. As the path of least resistance is always the path to equalization in all mathmatical and natural equations. Women will continue to seek these things in men because it is easier and because they can.
Red0660 3 years ago