Fast, meh- I'm getting bored of fast. If one looks retrospectively at someone's career. 'Fast' won't blip the radar compared with the impact of composition.
Apart from the obvious answer, 'it's Allan, no one knows what he is doing'
How does he get this tone? i have only ever heard him sound like this, at this particular performace. It sounds like he is running two serperate signals or perhaps some very subtle harmoniser effect, there is definately two blending sounds to create this incredible fusion..
Help! I know there is lots of reverb and delay, any help would be super :)
This is one the of greatest things ever...whenever i show it to non musician (or musician friends with not a huge amount of musical knowledge), they are like "what the HELL is this?"....usually in a "bad' way....but i know its just over there head...this is three highly skilled craftsmen, creating amazing music...and Allan's best trio...ever
this makes my top 10 favorite performances of all time, its just so dark and distant, but its so technically and emotionally pleasing to a musicians ear, novaks licks are just delicious, and allans chops are simply not human, hes from another planet....maybe earth in some different dimension?
Extraterrestrial Jazz! Allan came from another galaxy. He wasn't born in Uk that's a lie, he just doesn't want to scare us all. but apparently he just came to share his music with us so there's nothing to worry about. I always think of his music as not from this planet, or from the future, like from star trek(atavachron), it's so different from everything else, the chords, the tone, the synthaxe, very bizarre music, very unique, very sci-fi. Love Sand, Atavachron, Secrets and Sixteen
Some of the best guitar, bass, and drum playing ever on this one... Actually, it's very very hard to find musical performances of that level. And the greatest guitar trio I've ever seen (by far).
I'm sure he gained a few extra pounds in the watershed that night haha. Only joking I love Shawn. Too bad the two artists never actually jammed together.
RIP Dave Carpenter! Master Blaster of a bass player! One hell of an all round musician...Never knew him but seems like he would have been a friend...Love the way he played and man he could play ANY style! That is why he is on hundreds of recordings! You are missed...Brill
Holdsworth has achieved a level of ability that I have seen from no person ever , and I have seen all the current jazz and prog guys . What many younger less mature players do not realize is that playing musically fast and playing fast are vastly different . so many younger guys Vai and Satriani ,yngwie and fire breathing rock guys mostly solo over very easy 3 and 4 chord vamps in common time, that arent nearly as harmonically rich (takes a few years to hear and understand ) He moves ME !!!
Jimmijune, exactly: Holdworth isn't vamping over chords, he's making his own set of harmonic relationships and using his own chordal structure. I play keys as well as bass and guitar, and I've been try to adapt my thinking to how Allan has laid out his structure. It's one of the most daunting thing I've ever tried to do on the keyboard; not just the speed, it's the complexity that is just overwhelming.
Somehow, Allan can improvise and make it work - and that just blows my mind.
Sometimes it seems he's not a 1/4-tone off, but some whacked out fraction off.... which of course, he makes fit right back in with whatever key the tune is actually in...
First time he blew me away, was w/Bruford,Berlin,Stewart in the late 70's. It wasn't clear how much he had, at that gig, as I was having trouble focusing on any one player long enough ;)
fantastic trio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dave carpenter was incredible bass player!!!gary novak great job in this band.and allan,of course,nothing to add: he is the best guitar player!!!!!!!!!!!!!io ho visto lo stesso concerto a roma al big mama!
Looks are so deceiving - Gary looks like a crazy metal-blasting drummer with his long hair. From behind, he kind of looks like Derek Roddy, but with straight hair.
@austin33309 Music to most people is not valuable in & of itself but is like a soundtrack to their social lives, if it doesn't serve to get them laid then they want nothing to do with it. I've seen Allan in clubs here in L.A. with only 20 people in the audience & one of them was Scott Henderson & L.A. is supposedly the musical capital of the world. I've heard that In Eastern Europe that audience sometimes grows to thousands of people a night. They have real music fans there unlike phony L.A.
@juanbarros88 Well, by music capital I mean that's where MOST music is recorded in the USA. Los Angeles & New York are where most of the musicians can be found or eventually go to to record. The entertainment industry is in LA & music has become an arm of that. A musician like Vinnie Colaiuta played with AH & Zappa but also does tons of studio gigs for top money because they put any chart or notes in front of him & he can sight -read it perfectly & play it exactly the way they want him to.
Allan Holdsworth is probably the greatest player that has touched the instrument, but this incredible rhythm section of Carpenter and Novak makes him look like the greatest dude ever! Amazing performance... this is the ultimate guitar trio...
Gary is the only guy, in my eyes, that is truly on par with the untouchable Vinnie. Unbeilevable chops and musicianship. There's not a shred of strain in his playing, its all just oozing out.....i fucking LOVE this man. One of music's hidden treasures.
Something tells me this wouldn't go down well at the Stonington jazz festival.
Samsgarden 2 weeks ago
Novak is explosive.
Samsgarden 2 weeks ago
Shawn Lane was fast, but he didn't have the concept to play this fast over these changes...taht is just where Allan leaves us all in the dust
Chromatype 1 month ago
@Chromatype
Fast, meh- I'm getting bored of fast. If one looks retrospectively at someone's career. 'Fast' won't blip the radar compared with the impact of composition.
Samsgarden 2 weeks ago
Apart from the obvious answer, 'it's Allan, no one knows what he is doing'
How does he get this tone? i have only ever heard him sound like this, at this particular performace. It sounds like he is running two serperate signals or perhaps some very subtle harmoniser effect, there is definately two blending sounds to create this incredible fusion..
Help! I know there is lots of reverb and delay, any help would be super :)
trevskiw2008 1 month ago in playlist Guitar Solos I love
aaaaaaaaand , , , I just became obsessed with Allan Holdsworth.
sheldonknowsall 1 month ago
This is one the of greatest things ever...whenever i show it to non musician (or musician friends with not a huge amount of musical knowledge), they are like "what the HELL is this?"....usually in a "bad' way....but i know its just over there head...this is three highly skilled craftsmen, creating amazing music...and Allan's best trio...ever
glueforall 4 months ago
this makes my top 10 favorite performances of all time, its just so dark and distant, but its so technically and emotionally pleasing to a musicians ear, novaks licks are just delicious, and allans chops are simply not human, hes from another planet....maybe earth in some different dimension?
paisteguy799 5 months ago
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i'm sure there's some trick
musklayer 5 months ago
Extraterrestrial Jazz! Allan came from another galaxy. He wasn't born in Uk that's a lie, he just doesn't want to scare us all. but apparently he just came to share his music with us so there's nothing to worry about. I always think of his music as not from this planet, or from the future, like from star trek(atavachron), it's so different from everything else, the chords, the tone, the synthaxe, very bizarre music, very unique, very sci-fi. Love Sand, Atavachron, Secrets and Sixteen
juanbarros88 6 months ago
Novak would have to lose 40 lbs to play with Holdsworth again. What a workout.
BullToTheShit 6 months ago
I admit I understand very little of what's going on here, musically, yet I'm transfixed. Amazing stuff.
Zebula77 6 months ago
Some of the best guitar, bass, and drum playing ever on this one... Actually, it's very very hard to find musical performances of that level. And the greatest guitar trio I've ever seen (by far).
PapaDudeness 8 months ago
Epic ending!
FaquirHemofilico 9 months ago
I think we should all agree that Allan should be also classified as a sax player as well. Close your eyes and what do you hear?
deadithink 10 months ago
novak is in the top 3 best drummers in the world in my opinion
paisteguy799 10 months ago
This was Allan's BEST line up, this rhythm section make him sound better. Wackerman gives it a rock vibe.
Samsgarden 10 months ago
@Samsgarden i preffer wackerman, colaiuta and husband... i like that rock sound more..music and taste really is subjective
carcassgrindcorpsesc 8 months ago
@carcassgrindcorpsesc there is no drummer better than novak period
paisteguy799 6 months ago
Holy Fuck, What a nasty groove, and the filthiest, most technical lines any guitar player could ever hope to play. Amazing
KillinFloorNYC 1 year ago
Holy Fuck, What a nasty groove, and the filthiest, most technical lines any guitar player could ever hope to play. Amazing
KillinFloorNYC 1 year ago
I wonder what my life would have been without Allan's music :(
Holdsyfan 1 year ago
@Holdsyfan Ha ha this thought to my mind frequently to chasp!
bluezenith9 1 year ago
@bluezenith9: So true!
Holdsyfan 1 year ago
@007undertones
Shawn Lane was there of course. Same gig.
I'm sure he gained a few extra pounds in the watershed that night haha. Only joking I love Shawn. Too bad the two artists never actually jammed together.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
This is the true heavy music. Sissy Deathcore bands can watch and bow to the master of strings.
AndyHoner 1 year ago
Guitar seems small in Allan's hands. He can span half the sodding fretboard. Musically liberating as usual. Grrreat!
sxmadrid 1 year ago
When are they going to stop tuning their instruments and play a nice song to listen to?
BarriosGroupie 1 year ago
@BarriosGroupie They are playing music, just not something that sounds familiar.
boertush 11 months ago
This is why I hate pop music.
upT3mpo 1 year ago
gary looks like a metalhead..:)
Kraeezeu 1 year ago
Allan - " It would be unfair if I opened my eyes."
3074861 1 year ago 4
Oh my god.
Steve128967 1 year ago
Holy shit, this is fucking insane, PARDON MY FRENCH!
kulamdaparim 1 year ago
Greatest guitar trio ever...
fusionakis 1 year ago
jimi page...speak serius , jimi page? the nail of Allan has more music than in that other life
megafone58 1 year ago
@megafone58 I never knew music was a competition.
Andoni666 1 year ago
RIP Dave Carpenter! Master Blaster of a bass player! One hell of an all round musician...Never knew him but seems like he would have been a friend...Love the way he played and man he could play ANY style! That is why he is on hundreds of recordings! You are missed...Brill
Brilldogg 1 year ago
@electrichaggis Vinnie is in a league of his own and Gary N is right there with him.
cheezruff 1 year ago
Amazing hook-up between bass and drums.... Holdsworth ends up swinging in spots!
mrich223 1 year ago
Gary: Ripster, Allan: Monster!!! Go go go! Its sad to lose Dave though! R.I.P
Holdsyfan 1 year ago
wow!
thats a monster guitarrist,
great artist
sandroroj 1 year ago
Naughty. Gary screwed up the end ;-)
Samsgarden 2 years ago
Allan always has top notch world-class musicians performing with him. It's always a treat to hear everyone on stage. RIP Carpenter!
Misterantinoodle 2 years ago 2
think i just dislocated my brain
snackajack117 2 years ago 5
Jaw dropping performance!
Holdsyfan 2 years ago 5
Holdsworth has achieved a level of ability that I have seen from no person ever , and I have seen all the current jazz and prog guys . What many younger less mature players do not realize is that playing musically fast and playing fast are vastly different . so many younger guys Vai and Satriani ,yngwie and fire breathing rock guys mostly solo over very easy 3 and 4 chord vamps in common time, that arent nearly as harmonically rich (takes a few years to hear and understand ) He moves ME !!!
jimmijune 2 years ago 11
Jimmijune, exactly: Holdworth isn't vamping over chords, he's making his own set of harmonic relationships and using his own chordal structure. I play keys as well as bass and guitar, and I've been try to adapt my thinking to how Allan has laid out his structure. It's one of the most daunting thing I've ever tried to do on the keyboard; not just the speed, it's the complexity that is just overwhelming.
Somehow, Allan can improvise and make it work - and that just blows my mind.
shpilk 2 years ago 2
@shpilk
Allan plays in keys that don't exist :D
Sometimes it seems he's not a 1/4-tone off, but some whacked out fraction off.... which of course, he makes fit right back in with whatever key the tune is actually in...
First time he blew me away, was w/Bruford,Berlin,Stewart in the late 70's. It wasn't clear how much he had, at that gig, as I was having trouble focusing on any one player long enough ;)
JonP1961 1 year ago
I enjoy watching Allan and this band, but Holdsworth's music never moves me. I understand it but there's just no emotional reaction for me.
larkydozer 2 years ago
Larkydozer - try 5:30 onward on the clip. If that doesn't move you, not much will.
shpilk 2 years ago
Useless comment.
larkydozer 2 years ago
RIP David.... Respect...!!!!
jerzybassy87 2 years ago 4
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One just can't get enough of Holdswoth's playing. Rhett Tyler is as good playing the blues. Thanks Rhett
knucksoff 2 years ago
Every time I thought I heard all the variations of Holdsworth, I find something new. Incredible.
shpilk 2 years ago 3
This is the greatest Holdsworth lineup and one his greatest live performances of ALL TIME.
NotYourTypicalNegro 2 years ago 6
You can say that about pretty much every Holdsworth lineup
janderson2000 2 years ago
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computerhacksaw 2 years ago
Hard to find words! Absolutely amazing musicians..
beckenbauers 2 years ago 6
What a friggin pocket these guys give Allan....
fralando 2 years ago 20
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DreamZfleetwoodmac 2 years ago
I loved the Gary Novak days.
No offense to Chad Wackerman but I find his playing a little too geared towards rock for my tastes.
Samsgarden 2 years ago 8
out of this world trio, one of the best AH ever had
hgsbnt 2 years ago 5
fantastic trio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dave carpenter was incredible bass player!!!gary novak great job in this band.and allan,of course,nothing to add: he is the best guitar player!!!!!!!!!!!!!io ho visto lo stesso concerto a roma al big mama!
fabbux 2 years ago 4
holy shit!!!
unraveledagain 2 years ago 4
Looks are so deceiving - Gary looks like a crazy metal-blasting drummer with his long hair. From behind, he kind of looks like Derek Roddy, but with straight hair.
DrumVu 2 years ago
and dave carpenter looks like a pc
Grillmouth 2 years ago
On this song and TEXAS Holdsworth is just out of F_CKING control...
this is one of his absolute best live gigs
Does anyone know if there is a full video of Holdsworth with Didier Lockwood & GATHERING OF THE MINDS at the
Montreux Jazz Festival 1983 ???
There is only a short clip on youtube
caucazhin 2 years ago 3
I'm gonna send this to the next person that says Jimi Page is the best gutiar player ever LOL
MrBlack125 2 years ago 19
yeah, exactly - jazz masters are far beyond all regular rockers page, etc, etc....
mileswarm 2 years ago
@MrBlack125 Agree. All respect to JP, but those who say he's the "best ever" just have not listened to very many guitarists.
mancini2468 1 year ago
@MrBlack125
You won't get that line any more. It will be someone like Paul Gilbert.
Samsgarden 10 months ago
@MrBlack125 the type of people who think that jimi page is the best wouldnt have the mental capacity to enjoy this magical music.
austin33309 9 months ago
@austin33309 Music to most people is not valuable in & of itself but is like a soundtrack to their social lives, if it doesn't serve to get them laid then they want nothing to do with it. I've seen Allan in clubs here in L.A. with only 20 people in the audience & one of them was Scott Henderson & L.A. is supposedly the musical capital of the world. I've heard that In Eastern Europe that audience sometimes grows to thousands of people a night. They have real music fans there unlike phony L.A.
metamorphosis67 9 months ago
@metamorphosis67 never hear of LA being the musical capital
juanbarros88 8 months ago
@juanbarros88 Well, by music capital I mean that's where MOST music is recorded in the USA. Los Angeles & New York are where most of the musicians can be found or eventually go to to record. The entertainment industry is in LA & music has become an arm of that. A musician like Vinnie Colaiuta played with AH & Zappa but also does tons of studio gigs for top money because they put any chart or notes in front of him & he can sight -read it perfectly & play it exactly the way they want him to.
metamorphosis67 8 months ago
Allan Holdsworth is probably the greatest player that has touched the instrument, but this incredible rhythm section of Carpenter and Novak makes him look like the greatest dude ever! Amazing performance... this is the ultimate guitar trio...
fusionakis 2 years ago 8
Gary is the only guy, in my eyes, that is truly on par with the untouchable Vinnie. Unbeilevable chops and musicianship. There's not a shred of strain in his playing, its all just oozing out.....i fucking LOVE this man. One of music's hidden treasures.
eskimoposh 2 years ago
Gary is great! also check out Roger Biwandu here on utube, specifically summertime in 7/8- Great Player!
ambroulard 2 years ago
@eskimoposh yeah, gary deserves way more widespread recognition.
cheezruff 1 year ago
wow...................great music
I love that last vibe they got into at the end while Novak was increasing the intensity of his playing.....................
Gonna have to mark this one and make sure to hear it again....................thanks for posting
taghl 3 years ago 2
is this piece available on an album, studio or live? maybe a DVD? I ripped the song from the video, but naturally it's poor qualtiy
x7lost 3 years ago
is there a recording of this?
x7lost 3 years ago
gary novak takes the prize !
danielworks 3 years ago 4
Allan is so very dope.
Soulnik 3 years ago
Gary Novak is a MONSTER, is this an Alanis Morissette song? LOL
bambamdrummer 3 years ago 6
Amazing !!!
MrMystery52 3 years ago 2
Rest in peace Dave.
freedok 3 years ago 4
great footage, there is any DVD of this?
KingTabor 3 years ago 3
This is my favorite lineup of Holdsworth trio(no disrespect to Jimmie and Chad, though!)
NotYourTypicalNegro 3 years ago 4