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  • This video is from a Show Time series (Sleeper cell) about terrorists and the video is out of contexts at the end of the episode that imam is killed by the french muslim being injected with poison proving Islam is really evil. The episode is from season 1 and the episode is called scholar, you can watch it on netflix instant stream.

  • @lucid129

    again you do know it was a show right fool, like pro wreestling competition is more real then politics of Usa how are rep and democrats funded by same ppl

  • Jesus teachers love and forgive DO NOT DO THE SAME BACK EYE FOR AN EYE IS EVIL forgiveness is the way(:

  • When I look at the prophet of islam, I see a person who lied, waged wars to get rich, committed barbaric acts of torture, beheading entire villages of jews for their money, and a man who - at 50 - "married" a 6 year old girl.

    When I read the book he wrote - the quran - I see a book that fosters hate, intolerance, and deceit, contains calls to spread islam by any means, including lying and warfare.

    The only redeeming quality of islam is that not all muslims buy into this ideology completely.

  • @berenjervin LOL the prophet couldn't read or write man ! that already proves that you're getting your facts on very vague and false information. Funny lad : p even back then, it was normal for men to marry young women. It's just the recent influences of European romanticism that claimed Muhammad to be some pedo or whatever, which he ISN'T because he even married a widow, on top of that Khadijah who was 25 years older than him!!

  • @anisahq

    >LOL the prophet couldn't read or write man

    So the quran is a man made book then? Why is this mohammad guy supposedly the prophet of islam then?

    >normal for men to marry young women

    Sure, but the problem is Islam puts this guy up on a pedestal as a role model for all time, which is why you find muslims "marrying" children all over the islamic world today.

    And why you find muslim immigrants in western countries demanding sharia laws-which would allow child marriages.

  • @anisahq

    >which he ISN'T because he even married

    Isnt this kinda like saying someone isnt a murderer because you can point out someone they didnt kill?

    The fact is, mohammad married a 6 yo when he was 50, and muslims today hold him up as a role model, AND muslims are demanding sharia laws in western societies that would allow that behavior.

    All you have to do is marry ONE 6 yo to be considered a pedo today - doesnt matter who else you marry on top of that.

  • @berenjervin The Quran teaches us so much (: Did you know? That pagans even bribed the prophet into rejecting Islam right? They were super rich, controlling Arabia, yet the prophet said,"Oh my Uncle, By Allah, if they put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand on condition that I abandon this matter (Islam), until Allah has made victorious or I perish, I will not abandon it." Muhammad was a foster himself, and Allah told us in the Quran, (continue with my next comment

  • @anisahq "2. And give unto orphans their property and do not exchange (your) bad things for (their) good ones; and devour not their substance (by adding it) to your substance. Surely, this is a great sin." so don't think that Islam is just some lowly cult, because billions of us are practicing it. Why? Because it's our guidance and you still said Muhammad "wrote" it. He was an illiterate man. o.o;; God doesn't tell us in the Quran to cheat, gamble, backstab, steal, kill. Instead He tell

  • @anisahq He tells us to not do it at all, because there are consequences. But since you want to deny it, I really can't stop you. Simply I can give dawah for you. But it's wrong to force you and its up to you. Gosh the world is so biggg! I want to tell you so much about how great it is to be a Muslim but words can not explain enough.:/

  • @anisahq

    >until Allah has made victorious or I perish,

    And even in your example of how great islam is, you can see its core problem shine through.

    The entire world view provided by islam is one of conflict to establish sharia law world wide.

    Most people in the world dont give a crap about islam until muslims show up terrorizing people and demanding we follow their religious laws. And nothing you say will make us stop laughing at the silly ideas (like quranic science) in islam.

  • @berenjervin Thats a false judgement, because my parents were both reverts (babies are all born Muslim, but non-Muslim parents convert them) from Bhuddism AND Christianity. No one forced them and they lived in America too. : P

    Ahem, read Surah Albaqarah verse 256-257. (: Allah clearly tells us at the first sentence," There is no compulsion in religion."

  • @anisahq Oh and they reverted waaayyy back in 1980 and 1990, so it has NOTHING to do with 9/11. If that's what you may misunderstand.

  • @anisahq

    No, babies are not born muslim. If they were, every culture would know about the quran, but they dont. Its not until muslims show up and demand they convert to islam do they start to hear about islam.

    The verse you quote has been abrogated (2.106) by later verses. (especially 9:5).

    If you believe this "no compulsion" verse, great, but you are in a minority within islam.

    Why do you think muslims persecute non muslims in Islamic states?

  • @berenjervin It's their choice to persecute non-muslims or not(even if it's wrong). That's what governments do, especially those in power. You can't say millions or billions of people have forced people into Islam when you might not even know a thousand. Hey maybe you're right about all babies. I never thought to verify that.I know I might sound crazy but when ever i make salat or prayer, i feel like a baby again. :b like between me and Allah, the connection is sweet!! lol out of topic xD

  • @anisahq

    >Hey maybe you're right about all babies

    Of course I'm right. Take a look at a map of religions in the world, and ask why no babies grow up talking about islam in those areas where islam is rare?

    >the connection is sweet!!

    Yes, this is the same thing christians say, and drug addicts :).

  • @berenjervin WELL sir the connection of salat(prayer) is waaaayyyy better than drugs. It's like connecting to heaven, or another universe. :}3 Babies cant even talk when they're born! How do you know if they could say anything about Islam anyways? I researched up a bit, Its not that all babies were "Muslim" reading 1/2 the Quran and preaching Islam, it that's all babies were "Muslim" born that his soul also submits naturally to the fact that Allah is his Lord and Creator.(islam101)

  • @anisahq

    >it that's all babies were "Muslim" born that his soul also submits naturally to the fact that Allah is his Lord

    My view is that all people are born without religion, and its instilled in them through years of indoctrination by parents, religious institutions, and religious societies.

    Why else do babies growing up in buddist societies become buddist, babies in islamic societies become muslim, and babies NOT subjected to religion are not religious?

  • @berenjervin They're not "religious institutions" or "religious societies", it's called guidance, reminders, warning so they don't forget the Almighty Lord later on their life and in the next world they don't suffer as much. [=

  • @anisahq

    Or, you could call them threats. "Behave this way or else I'll torture you in the next life."

  • @berenjervin I found the evidence!! Surah Al-A'raf(The Heights) verse 172-173. It explains the view about all babies. [= I'll copy and paste it if you want.

  • @anisahq

    I just read it. It actually does not explain my point. Why does a baby born in China not know anything about islam or allah until AFTER he is told about it? And that same baby doesnt become a muslim until after years of being told about god, and finally a lot of time being told about islam?

    Sure, if babies were born muslim, it should take about 5 minutes for them to understand about allah?

  • @anisahq

    And, I would say that what you found were words in a book. Evidence is something that can be demonstrated to be true. And this verse doesnt demonstrate anything.

    (My only point is you used the wrong word, its not evidence, its something else)

  • @anisahq

    >is waaaayyyy better than drugs.

    Probably. With a drug addict, you can take the drugs away, and in a fairly short time, they are no longer addicted.

    But with religion, it can take years of therapy to cut through all the years of false logic and brainwashing until the person finally understands why their religion based on supernatural claims that have no basis in reality. In short, the religion is just a means of controlling that person by religious leaders.

  • @berenjervin Sir you have barely lived 1% of the age of this world, do you believe you possess the right knowledge to say whatever is your view? That's very close minded to say ,"their religion based on supernatural claims that have no basis in reality" because that's like saying there's no possible way another universe can exist. Religion based on supernatural things? we were given laws and everything to help benefit ourselves from our lives this world and the hereafter!

  • @anisahq

    >do you believe you possess the right knowledge to say whatever is your view?

    Yes I do. When you can demonstrate the truth of a claim, its true.

    You have barely lived %1 of the age of this world, do you believe you possess enough knowledge to disagree with me?

    >their religion based on supernatural claims that have no basis in reality

    Your religion claims there is a supernatural being called allah.

    If you claim its part of reality, then demonstrate it.

  • @anisahq

    >we were given laws and everything to help benefit ourselves

    No, people in the arabic peninsula were given a book by someone who made many claims, including many that turned out to be false.

    The Chinese had an advanced civilization for thousands of years prior to that, and allah neglected to give them any message.

    So right there, your "we" falls apart. And your "everything" includes claims that are demonstrably false.

    But yet you are still stuck on it.

  • @berenjervin "In short, the religion is just a means of controlling that person by religious leaders." hold on, hold on, what religion are you really pointing out? Because I know in the Quran many scientific theories have been proven 1400 years ago that scientists have just recently rediscovered today. So it's certainly NoT Islam to be brainwashed or supernaturally unrealistic.({:

  • @anisahq

    >what religion are you really pointing out

    I'll leave that for you to ponder. Which religions fit that claim, and which dont?

    >many scientific theories have been proven

    Would you agree that if you can disprove ANY of the scientific theories in the quran, then the book cant be from a god? Disproving any one of them raises the question of how Allah got it wrong.

    More than 1 have actually been disproven. This is a fact.

    Continued

  • @anisahq

    Lets do a "what if" experiment here.

    IF IF IF one claim in the quran can be shown to be false, that would raise a question about the quran coming from an all knowing Allah.

    But does that mean everything about islam is wrong? No. Even if there is no allah, and the quran is just a book written based on what mohammad said, there is still many good things in there. Does it really matter where good comes from? Its still good, right?

  • @berenjervin have a nice day : ]]

  • @berenjervin after 9:5, 9:6 explains furthermore. (Sahih International translation)

    And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.

  • @anisahq

    And the meaning of the two is accept them if they convert to islam, kill them otherwise. (After hearing the words of allah, they are no longer a person who does not know.)

    Remember, this isnt MY understanding, its the understanding of the muslims killing people with terrorism, and waging jihad to establish islamic rule world wide, in accordance with islamic theology.

  • Masha'Allah, and may Allah give strength to all of those who remind each other that of what is closer to righteousness.

  • @tuskerman this is Steven Spielberg story stuff what you are talking about, better you view the scriptures not the Muslims, Muslims can deceive but not the religion itself study islam instead of studying the actions of Muslims, and that way you should be fair you won't need to look at the Muslims

  • jihad is not holy warr

  • masAllah..beautiful video..brother please can you tell me the name of this film???Dzazakallahu khayren

  • Islam means “peace”, is a misconception deliberately created by Muslim-apologists to deceive non-Muslims. The Koran states: "Oh you who believe, Come, all of you, into submission." (al-Baqara 208).So actually the word Islam comes from and Arabic term for “losing oneself” “submitting” .Hence the reason that Muslims believe that we need to "surrender" by accepting their so called religion.

  • @semowery cool information bro, but I don't think it means the idealogy of what you think, its like, submission to whats right, like to only believe in One Creator and follow the laws accordingly, which only really benefits ourselves..

  • The greatest jihad is to deceive the unbelievers, lull them into believing that islam is a religion of peace, take every advantage of their immingration laws, scream bloody murder if they don't allow us to condemn everything about them while going ballistic if there is even a hint that they regard islam as a threat, introduce sharia law as soon as possible and then allah (the deceiver) will be happy because the whole world will be a hell hole.

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  • @44375737

    Read the whole surah ..

    copy pastin versus will always make it incomplete..

    ps

    Whtever u just pasted ws abt the muslim qurayshi battle which took place 1400 years back

    Respect the quran..the same way how we respect the Bible

  • @44375737 You missed hundreds of verses in between.

  • islam means shit in your head

  • @dobrovoljac1971 You just say that coz you're totally ignorant! State your reasons

  • @RimoMehelba u are ignorant following a child molester, raper and massmurder. just read the quran and sunnah of the monster called mohammed. i did.

  • @dobrovoljac1971 Can u prove to me that hes a child molester and a raper???? And If you really did read the Quran you wouldn't say that unless you can't read

  • @dobrovoljac1971

    This Proves How much u knw abt the quran...NOthing

    Give me a proof tht the quran States out beloved prophet a molester

  • @souleaterfan16 mohammed = monster and terrorist

  • @44375737

    hahahah

    like USA steal petrol of Iraq

    Murder 5000000 in Iraq

    lol

    Islam read about plz then talk don't watch tv or any thing just read Quran and understand it very well then talk plz

  • YOURE PEACE RELIGION HAVE SHOW OF IN OSLO RIGHT NOW

  • @Bacigalla1481 One time again, please... B****

  • @loveonbob im sorry, i was writing this like one hour after atack, every body thoug on same, on some crazy islam dzihadist. so, im sorry again, my fault.

  • love this clip, more muslums need to show that they are indeed like this man, this man has honour unlike terrorists as we have come to know them

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  • wow, very nice. I'd like to learn more.

  • Islam is a peaceful religion, it says in the Quran that not all men are made to be a Muslims so Muslims having to kill infidels is a lie. A holly war is about fighting your own demons and purifying your soul. Like in every religion we have the extremists, just like Christians who go around blowing up abortion clinics. Demonizing Islam is a smart move from western countries, most of the oil is in Muslim coutries.

    demonizing religion has led to religious violence and wars.

  • this is the deception that the one true God warned us about. Jesus is prophet, priest, and king. He died on a cross and shed his blood being the Son of God to redeem his creation.

    Mahammed came with sword killing the follower's of Jesus Christ 622 years after Jesus. The quran is authored by Satan. Islam will be the NWO, antichrist's religion.

    Do not believe the lies of the devil. There is only one way to Heaven and that is through the redemptive works of Christ on the Cross. Acts 4;12

  • I am not Christian, and I am not Muslim. Everyone here against this because of the war or issues you may have are all ignorant people letting your anger get the best of you. You use this anger to attack another religion, by saying they believe in killing. That may be what the Qur'an says, yet there are other things written around that that people don't understand. Some Muslims don't even believe in this, so before attacking someone else, actually find out what most of the followers believe.

  • @plumokin Now for my second comment. To all of you people attacking that are of another religion, look at what terrible things your religion has done first. Be willing to be ashamed of your own religion for acts it has committed if you are going to attack another religions acts as well

  • The Quran is actually an evil book... in this video I wonder if these people have even read the damn thing. Read the translation of it. It teaches people to kill. All tell you the Bible isn't much better. In my eyes all religion is bad for us, it's just another reason to fight uselessly with each other. It was good years ago, because it instilled a lot of the laws we know today, but in modern society I believe we have to get rid of this crutch.

  • @Daniel7681

    I have a copy of the Quran. I've read it. There is nothing in the Quran that justifies murder!

  • @joshanator1 It speaks of murder throughout the entire thing. Also about torture. One verse in the Quran is if you catch someone stealing, cut their finger off so everyone will know what they have done. Doesn't that seem cruel? That's one of the milder things so don't try and tell me that this book doesn't justify murder. It does, many times, in fact in this video it still does justify it if you're doing it for "Allah" but what exactly does that encompass? Murder is murder, plain and simple.

  • @Daniel7681 let me ask u one question if some one rapes ur sister what punishment will u give her ur talking about so much humanity,may be u will make him ur brother in law i guess! islam is straight forward if u want this world to be peaceful u have to follow these rules...

  • @peaceonearth484 Humanity? There are other solutions besides death... that's what humans are capable of, thoughts. Animals would kill each other to solve problems, but we are better then that. You have been brainwashed already if you're coming to me saying killing is the only solution to a problem. Look at society today and tell me your religion is working. Then look at first world countries and compare. Which methods are having more success?

  • @joshanator1 yeh., you are right.  if someone kills your family or relatives you can kill him but not his relatives or friends( cos they are innoncent). but ts better to forgive him / cos Allah says that then the mercy will be shown to you and you also will be forgiven for your sins

  • daniel

    how r you i wish you are good ?

    can you explain what you said about ( there is nothing in the Quran that justifies murder )

  • This video is nothing but a lie, and what's sad is that so many people are believing the lie in these last days. Lord help us!

  • i love this video... but im still athiest.

  • Enough to look up the meaning of Taqayya, and you will see through this crap.

  • peace my ass! All religions think they are right over others. just facists not peaceful

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  • What movie is this from?

  • dont learn islam from media and people but learn from quran.....mashallah v well said......today we who consider ourselves muslims should learn from quran to become true muslims

  • It`s was taken from Sleeper Cell S01e04

  • @waste0fspais No 90% of terrorism displayed on the MEDIA are Muslims.

  • bla bla bla ''you dont understand our religion, read the Koran bla bla bla'' Why the fuck should I bother reading ur dumbass holybook?!? I didnt read the Torah and jews arent a worldwide issue neither did I read the Hindu texts, so just cos muslim fucks aare the cause of 90% of terrorism today I should reassure my self by reading their Koran to convince me self its not violent IT IS FUCKING VIOLENT, your cleric's call for violence so shut the fuck up

  • @waste0fspais Then why do so many peope hate Jews? Exacly, you have no good reason. So many of you are just racist jerks. 

  • @waste0fspais ignorant fuck

  • @waste0fspais '''you dont understand our religion, read the Koran bla bla bla'' Why the fuck should I bother reading ur dumbass holybook?!"

    Are you daring to judge Muslims by their actions?!  YOU HAVE NO RIGHT!!

    Only Allah can do that! Die, kaffir!!

  • @waste0fspais Perhaps I can assure you that I can correct your misunderstanding of the Quran not being violent. The Quran explains that evil is forbidden and Good is what mankind is suppose to follow. Perhaps God's wrath is what you are Questioning? Yes the wrath that he promises just like he has conducted when Moses, Abraham, and Lot was around is the same as what will happen on the Day of Judgement. His warnings are shown to help us mankind to understand that God (Allah) wants us to do better.

  • @waste0fspais u are soooo stupid...OMG -.- lost soul !

  • is this from a movie?

  • Hope more peace-loving Muslims like this can speak out against what happened to the UN workers in Afghanistan who had nothing to do w/ what happened in Florida.. My Muslim friends, we need your voice..

  • As-salaam alaikum brother and sisters.

    Can anyone tell me where this clip is taken from?

    Jazakiallah

  • isnt jihad a part of the islam?

  • @MrKartos1 Jihad is straving to do good. Its fighting for whats right but nowadays media potreys it as terorism. Please study Islam dont belief what ever you see on the internet

  • taqqiya liars - muslims blow shit up

  • When Saudi Arabia is as tolerant towards other religion and autorizes building of churches, than we can talk.

    BTW, 9156 men, women and children died in 1883 attacks perpetrated by muslim in the name of Allah, the most merciful. Yes indeed, I guess i really have to believe it is a "religion" of peace or have my head chopped off.

  • If you want to know about Islam read the Qur'an and ahadith with understanding not some acted out movie with weak ahadith.

  • READ QUARAN and know how hatefull it is and after reading it please BURN it! This is a massage from someone who has seen islam and muslism from very close and have grew up in an islamic country. ISLAM is an evil cult and supported heavily by demons and devil power. The muslims with brain should study more, plz don't be ignorant and blind. ISLAM will brainwash u again & again, but stand strong and secretly practise spirituality, yoga and study history. Save your soul.

  • @explorerBDTH ya buddy learn history n then learn islam you will understand wat islam is but dont comment about something which you don no olease brother

  • It says in the bible that muslims will hate christians and jews until the end of time.

  • I want the whole video...where can i find it?

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  • I find it sad that its the year 2010 and we are still obsessed with mythology.

    God the all powrfull, builder of everything, has the power to create books from nothing, appear at will and yet he does neither.

    Look in the mirror, ask yourself why does god never show him self?, instead leaves people to argue over books made by man and their interpretation.

    Maybe its time for Humanity to wake up from the dream.

  • Speaking from experience, I prefer the Quran for a number of reasons. Its got thicker paper than the Christian Bible, and is as such much more effective for wiping my ass with. Now come out with a 2-ply Quran and I'll really be sold!

    Until then, I'll stick to wiping my ass with Christian bibles, doubling up on pages, of course, but mostly because you can buy Bibles at Sam's Club. Can't get Qurans in bulk!

  • @MrJamesonStyles Wow another 2 year old on youtube.. Youtubes users are starting to get really boreing..Grow up

  • @MrJamesonStyles its not your ass buddy....who told its yours??

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  • oh allah,distroy all the infidals that will want to mislead ppl from what u said about those who do not respect the way of your religion,jihad against all those that disrespect my religion,i support it as it is the will of allah,mashalla all muslim brothers and sister and it is the end of time,be on your guilds... for the agents of satan are in haste..behold and stick to the koran

  • Okay, I hear you, brother or sister!

    *Starts reading*

    *Stops reading*

    Kill the faggots and the infidels!

    >.> Just delete this video. It makes you looks more like dirt than you already are. Or does it?

  • Masha Allah, this is very educative. where do you get this clip from?

  • fag..

  • Islam is about self reflection, as he said the maraadun (disease) is in our hearts

  • im sorry but fuck islam. i became fully athiest once i became a physics student. to ever think i believed in this shit. evolution actually makes sense. for fuck sake read a FUCKING BOOK

  • @Airr91 lol evolution, tell me where consciousness came from, do you really think the universe would work in unison due to a random act. You say tyou took Physics, tell me, did chance produce those formulas and equations etc?

  • @kidsarocker

    Hello, kidsarocker. Consciousness comes from millions of years of natural selection, where those few who did not develop a weak consciousness died, and next, the more conscious beings were more likely to survive than the less conscious ones that were only driven by instinct.

  • why cant He? God can do whatever He wish including slaying you. No body will escape from God tourment except with His mercy and all of this indeed He can do alone because He is the owner of the whole world including me and you.

  • Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some and enslaved others.  33:25-26 (koran book of hate and lies!)

    God would never say such a thing or do such a thing only satan would! You are a dumb ignorant fool if you believe allah is god! allah is satan and he is playing you like a fool! Sorry you dont believe in the true God.

  • @jmoonsuede The Old Testament is also violent, remember YHWH killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt. How about killing homosexuals?

  • @jmoonsuede God would never say such a thing.. oh really? Didn't he say he is a jealous god and a vengeful one.

  • Muhammad admitted to have also received revelations directly from Satan. Known as the "Satanic verses," al-Tabari records in his History under "Muhammad at Mecca" that "Satan Cast a False Revelation on the Messenger of God's Tongue." Muhammad's admission that, "I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." confirms that Muhammad was demon possessed. He couldn't tell the difference between satan or allah's voice.

  • @jmoonsuede thats sooo untrue u wont find such a thing in any islamic reliable book but assuming that the bla bla bla u r saying is right which is not, prophet mohamad never heard allah's voice, god sent the quran to him through an angel called Gebril so check ur resources next time

  • @jmoonsuede what surah is this punk??? u started to write a new quran for us too. losers

  • @arianaa86 READ YOUR FUCKING KORAN SHIT AGAIN I ASSURE YOU IT'S IN THERE ALONG WITH 35,000 VERSES OF KILLING HATE TORTURE AND DEATH! DONT LET SATAN FOOL YOU EVEN MORE! ALLAH IS THE GREAT DECIEVER AKA THE DEVIL!

  • @jmoonsuede i read it and i read it every day and i challang u that u find one verse like this. when u wana write a verse , write it exactly like its written in the quran or else get lost

  • @arianaa86 IT IS SO SAD HOW LOTS OF MUSLIMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WANT TO BE CHRISTIAN AND THEY CANNOT BECAUSE THIER LIFE WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEM! I WILL PRAY FOR THOSE TO TRULY SEE THE LIGHT NOT THE LIGHT OF LUCIFER THE DECIEVER ALLAH! HE IS THE BEAST THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT! I WILL PRAY FOR AN END TO THIS DEMONIC CULT!

  • @jmoonsuede actually if theres such muslims then why dont they become christian in secret, faith is in the heart and believe me killing the converters is not islamic, its a cultural issue. u wont find a single verse in the quran that says we should kill the converter, and if u praying for those, i will pray with u too and i will also pray for the christian people who died only because they became muslims here in the middle east.

  • @arianaa86 It is difficult to take seriously Islams & Christianities claims to being peaceful when they have been involved in protracted wars in recent times.

    I hope you agree,the religion that trumps ALL others in terms of peace would be Jainism.

    Mahavira, the Jain patriarch, surpassed the morality of the Bible & the Quran with a single sentence 'Do not injure, abuse, oppress, enslave, insult, torment, torture, or kill any creature or living being.'

    Any chance of adding this to the Bible/Quran

  • @veganath well, my friend i agree with most of what u said, but let me explain something, anyone would judge a religion according to the actions of it followers right? and heres the issue we would never claim muslims to be peaceful because they r not but islam is , and i know how hard this is to believe but if u really know the real tellings of islam u would figure that out too, did u watch the video , god more than once in quran said " do not comitte agression , god does not love agressors"

  • @arianaa86 Imagine how different our world would be if both the Quran & Bible contained this edict, our world would be what God intended a paradise.

    It's sad that we need to be instructed that aggression or violence is wrong, especially if it causes unnecessary suffering. Fortunately the majority of people know intuitively that aggression is wrong. Morality is simply equal consideration of interests, it isn't difficult

    Just curious what would be the Islamic metric for morality/ethics?

  • @veganath and god doesnt love agressors not only in the time of war but this verse applies to everything, theres a saying of the prophet mohamad that says (( the real muslim is the one who, other people are in safe of his hand and tongue)) which means u wont be a real muslims if u hurt others with ur hand or even with a word of ur mouth.

  • @arianaa86 I believe the Quran also says 'Whoever is kind to the creatures of God is kind to himself.'

    The Bible 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

    Both infer, that at a deeply spiritual level we

    are all intimately connected, so much so that

    the suffering we inflict on any other being is

    the cause for our own suffering, similarly the

    loving kindness we give to others is felt by us.

    Why because a creature of God & our neighbor is 'our self', as the Quran & Bible implies by these verses

  • So depending on the nomenclature of your cultural indoctrination, really depends on your definition of what is a person.

    I was bought up not only to consider people of different races or gender as people, but also people who happen to be born in a different body to mine they also are people.

    I think you would need to qualify what the Prophet said, as meaning 'only people of a human physiology', unless of course the Prophet implied a larger more inclusive umbrella of compassion. Hmm Perhaps??

  • @arianaa86 Yeah right honey only you could believe such things! I know of people who cannot fully convert even if thier hearts want to because thier fucking abusive husbands and fathers will kill them or torture and beat them! get a life! you are so full of it!

  • @jmoonsuede and i know agirl converted to islam but she was shot to death by her brother, and i told u give me only one verse from Quran that says we should kill whosoever converts. u will never find such a verse. or give me only one case from middle east of a christian who wanted to convert to islam and her or his family let them , u would never find this. its a cultural act not a religios one. u get a life cuz i already have one and its agreat one also, wish u the same u poor

  • @arianaa86 While I like this video and the aspects of Islam it presents there are passages in both the Qu'ran and the Hadith. For instance in the Hadith, Bukari gives three reasons for shedding a Muslim’s blood, the final reason is as follows: "...the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." The Hadith also describes Ali, Mohammad's cousin, burning atheists alive.

  • @ReverendWyrm well, any hadith could be right or wrong after all its not as reliable as quran, such an important thing like killing the converted would ve been mentioned clearly in quran like the punishment of the adulterer. and i can tell u that this story of the prophet's cousin its not true, no human is allowed to use the fire as a punishment in islam so i can assure u that this story didnt happen

  • @arianaa86 There are several accounts of Ali's encounter with those people. Bukari says that they were atheists while later interpretations change this to be apostates or idolaters. Subsequent reinterpretations have changed this story so that it may be about the burning of a house in which an idol was found, or the murder of the men and then their corpses were burned. It is not the method of the killing which concerns me, but the killing itself. Sura 46:9 "God is the ONLY one who can judge..."

  • @arianaa86 The Qu'ran does condemn apostasy but the earthly punishment is often vague. For instance in regard to apostates Sura 3:91 says "... For those there will be a painful punishment..." But it is unclear if this punishment will be in life or after death. Sura 5:33 demands death and mutilation for those "...who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption..." A religion is only as good as those that follow it.

  • @ReverendWyrm all the punishments r clear,, especially the punishment u r confused about, obviously its not in life , and heres the verse, (( verily those who disbelieved and died while they were disbelievers the whole earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as aransom , for them is a painful torment and they will have no helpers))

  • @arianaa86 Alas the Hadith is an important doctrine to many Muslims. As I said before any religion is only as good as it's believers. The epicenter of the Islamic world, the theocracy formed around Islam, finds enough evidence within the Qu'ran and the Hadith to justify it's policy of death for apostasy. I'm not talking about a fringe group, but millions of people that support this idea, if only through nonresistance. I cannot support ANY god that would command killing when that act is a sin.

  • @jmoonsuede I bet you observe xmas don't you?

  • @kidsarocker I bet you got buttraped as a kid did'nt you. It's o.k just get some therapy and dont believe in pedophiles as your prophet and maybe you'll feel better!

  • @jmoonsuede Oddly enough the bible is stuffed full of verses with god commanding the chosen people to pillage, rape, murder, and enslave. Even Yeshua supported slavery in so much as he did not stand against it. Regardless of the period slavery, the ownership of another human being, is wrong and immoral. Yeshua said he had not come to change the laws or the prophets(in reference to the old testament) and he who disobeys the least of them is the least in his father's eyes.

  • @ReverendWyrm Oddly enough the New Testament which is where Christianity is formed says that we should "love our enemies" "Turn the other cheek"

    Historians often say they find no contradictions in the word of Jesus Christ, but find numerous in the koran. Are you defending the fact that this cult was founded by a pedophile lustful disgusting adulterous man aka muhammed? (lower case intentional) How dare you compare this filth and heresy to a book of GOD "reverend"!

  • @jmoonsuede Yes it does and the Qu'ran says "begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors”. (2:190). But despite these passages there have been centuries of blood shed by members of both religions. Said groups finding ample evidence in their preferred holy book to justify their ruthless and hateful hearts. Are we now comparing the members of a faith or the textual concepts contained in the doctrine? If you're judging by membership then Islam and Christianity make good bedfellows.

  • @jmoonsuede What historians you're referencing? There are numerous contradictions contained in the bible. Yeshua himself, as you noted, said "Do not resist an evil person"(Matt 5:39) yet disobeyed his own words when driving away money changers and merchants in John 2:15. Yeshua also said "I came not to send peace, but a sword."(Matt10:34) and in turn said "all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."(Matt26:52), an admonition commanding his disciples to inaction.

  • @jmoonsuede When one takes the podium to cast down others be most aware of the mirror into which you speak. The evidence supporting Islam is just as abundant as the evidence supporting Christianity, that is to say there is none beyond self-contained stories. No non-christian historian recorded a first-hand account of Yeshua or crucifiction. There's not even archeological evidence that Nazareth itself even existed. I won't get into translation errors, though even the name Jesus is wrong.

  • @ReverendWyrm and this verse was because some of the rich disbelievers were mocking the prophet saying that they will pay god money in the after life, and some of them thinking that they wont be touched because they r superior since they have money

  • @arianaa86 according to quran even the prophet mohamad was not allowed to punish those who disbelives or converts, and heres the proof . verse 88:21-22 (( so remind them O'Mohamad you are only one who reminds)) (( you are not a dictatore over them)) and theres in the same surah verse 88:25 (( verily , to us (god) will be their return )) then verily for us (god) will be their reckoning))) still confused my friend?

  • @ReverendWyrm and in this verse 88:21 god is talking to the prophet telling him to remind people about the blessings, gifts and greatness of god, and the exact translation is that, remind them, u are only a reminder, which means he cant punish or judge people for believing or not believing because hes only a reminder

  • @ReverendWyrm I believe you think that allah is the same god as the Christian Bible, if that is the case then you are sorely mistaken! Jesus had predicted lucifer showing himself to muhammed at the hira cave hundreds of years before it happend, there has never been an apparition of muhammed or allah but there are so many of Jesus and Mary! Is'nt that proof enough that the koran is a book of lies created by lucifer. If you read revelations islam is the beast that will conquer for 42 months.

  • @jmoonsuede According to Islam it is the same god. Personally I don't care one way or another. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to at least list the biblical passages that refer to Islam specifically. Or are you using doctrinal texts and unfounded interpretation to justify your position? If the bible explicitly says anything about Islam or Muhammad, by name, I might concede the point. Let me ask you a question. If all this is so important why would a divine creator rely solely on faith?

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