Talking about Necrons - 2000pts army

[Eminor31415]

read up on it and the WS 10pts is an you may allso (SWEET option >:-) )

[Eminor31415]

i was waching this vidio wail make list fore a game.. thourth about using my secund necron lord like the one on food is used here BUT...

Vail of Darkness: 60 pts. Res Orb: 40 pts. Warscyste 10 pts....

he can only get war gear fore 100 pts... sooo theres a littel problem there.. or???

do you count like 1 necron lord whit a upgraded starf of light to a war scyste 110pt's and then still getting 100 pts wargear? i don't think that's how it's done.

[legionthantos]

@Eminor31415 Warscythe was bought in Addition to the 100 pts allowance.

[ScobieSongs]

I got owned by chaos in a 2v1 in second turn cos of phase out.fcin h8 that rule :)

[Godsmasherbot]

@ScobieSongs Yeah hopefully it won't be there in the new 'dex. the only justifiable reason for keeping it was to balance out Gauss possibly one shotting every tank, but with the changes to glancing it just cripples the army too much, especially in combat. Of course Stubborn on units would help with that, but I can't see that being a likely change.

[doom978]

necron melee does not compute?

[Adrian890722]

hows veil of darkness work? ddo u use it in ur movement phase and on the same turn deeep strike him down or next turn?

[t3trojans]

Wow you sound cool!

[eerree6]

my necron army: 3 necron lords, 20 flayed, 140 warriors, 7 destroyers, 3 wraiths, 30 scarabs, 2 monloiths, 3 heavy destroyers, 3 tomb spyders, 1 pylon= Total =5,503 points

[ClutchModeEngaged]

You have a total of 63 Necrons in this army list, making your phase out 15, not 16. Don't shortchange yourself, buddy!

[RasenShuriken2323]

you should also put 2 more destroyers instead of these 5 flayed ones....

[RasenShuriken2323]

disruption field AND warscythe together?

[RasenShuriken2323]

1750 POINT LIST 1)36 necron warriors (648 PTS) 2)10 destroyers (500 PTS) 3)1 Necron Lord (190 PTS) +destroyer body +veil of darkness 4)1 Necron Lord (200 PTS) +destroyer body +phase shifter +resurrection orb 5)Monolith (235 PTS)

[RasenShuriken2323]

You have made a mistake!!!!

A necron lord can be added up to 100 points! The 2nd necron lord has 110 more than its usual (Veil of darkness=60, ressurection orb=40, warscythe=10)

[RasenShuriken2323]

@RasenShuriken2323 My mistake..

You can add a warscythe.

[Aderath]

WHY ARE YOU TAKING DISTRUPTION FEILD WITH A WAR SCYTHE!!! the WarS gives you monstrus creature armour penetration, Disruption feild gives you guass in CC. the disruption feild doesn't help in the slightest with a warscythe, use the 10 pts to give 5 of your warriors disruption field so that IF you get charged by a drednought you can maybe sting it a bit

[colorless100]

@Aderath can't do that unless you have another 10 points (+the price for 5 more warriors ; minimum 10 warriors)

[Aderath]

@colorless100 What i meant was take 5 warriors you already have and rather than pay 10pts for the DF on the warscythe lord give each of them disruption field for 2pts per model. this way, in the unlikely event that something like a dreadnought or high tougness monstrous creature gets into cc with that squad you'll have at least something that can, potentially, hurt it.

[colorless100]

@Aderath Ok then, then assumptively, you have 10 more points and 5 more warriors already. :/

[Aderath]

@colorless100 Sorry i made a mistake, mixed up the price for DF and Chrom in my head, it should be that the five pts would be better spent on warrior DF generally. I was just trying to make the point that you shouldnt give the same Lord both a warscythe and DF since the scythe is a much better anti tank weapon.

[CaptCamping]

you put your mouth too close to the mic

[colorless100]

I'd make a few tweeks with your list 1x Lord +destroyer body +warscythe +ressurection orb +phylactery +disruption field 4x Heavy Destroyers 1x Lord+Veil of darkness+ressurection orb+warscythe 1x Tomb Spyder+particle projecter 50x Warriors 1x Monolith 10x Scarab Swarms+ Dis. Fields total= 2005 phaseout= 16

[colorless100]

Well I want to hear what you'd say about it. Please?

[RasenShuriken2323]

Noooooo! No heavy destroyers! You can destroy tanks even with gauss flayers, you do not need heavy gauss cannons!

[colorless100]

@RasenShuriken2323 dude even the necron pro at my club takes 2 full wings of heavy destroyers. I may replace the phylactery on destroyer lord with a lightning field tho. :]

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 You play with a necron army. Necrons are the best tank hunters in warhammer 40k. A few days ago I immobilised a Land Raider and it couldn't shot for the next turn with 12 warriors. YOU DO NOT NEED HEAVY DESTROYERS!!!!

[colorless100]

@RasenShuriken2323 You don't see the big picture: why waste shots when you can just take them out?

think about it this way: 1 heavy destroyer has more of a chance of destroying a LR (or equivalent in armor) in 1 turn than 12 warriors in 2. :/

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 You are wrong. You don't have to destroy a land raider. You can simply immobilise (if it is a reedemer his heavy flamers are wasted) it or make his crew shaken&stunned. And even if you want it this way the particle whip can take out any tank whatsoever with its S9 AP1.

[colorless100]

@RasenShuriken2323 This point is taken, about a land raider. but, it can still shoot at you. and heavy destroyers, even though less shots, are still worth it.

...and farseers etc. are what I face most. point in fact.

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 "but, it can still shoot at you."

What???????

[colorless100]

@RasenShuriken2323 anything immobilized can still shoot, it just can't move. >->

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 Yes, but i told you that i had 2 glancing hits (4, 6)

It was immobilised and it could not shoot for 1 turn.

[colorless100]

@RasenShuriken2323 If you're lucky. Statistics may say that, but this isn't mathhammer. =-=

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 Haha yes it isn't mathhammer. Though, on the other hand you make an army list only for one reason; to have more possibilities of winning! You can't depend on luck!

[RasenShuriken2323]

@colorless100 Heavy destroyers are only good for eldar farseers such as eldrad ulthran, for space marine chaplains and chapter masters etc.

even though, pariahs make that job better....

[wakcedout]

i would highly recommend removing the disruption field from your necron lord with the destroyer body cuz as you yourself qouted was how good the warsycthe upgrade is and from my personal experience with it against a devilfish you dont need the fields the sycthe itself is lethal i wrecked the devilfish with three penetrating hits from the warscythe. all in all though a good army list.

[lapster3000]

wait a second...

who do we know with guardsman

well me but i've never played you with them...

[Godsmasherbot]

for your information i was at the shop in aberdeen at the time.

[lapster3000]

not bad. =p

[BloodRending]

50 warriors... i like

[CoNnZ666]

surely a unit of 10 warriors would be better to go around with the veil as they can shoot the tanks or whatever turn they deep strike

[Godsmasherbot]

actually it's not as effective. if you have 10 warriors in rapidfire range then that's 20 shots which hit on 3+ and do anything on a 6+. if you have a melee squad then you can be sure that all your attacks will hit (provided the vehicle didn't move), plus if you charge a squad of 5 flayed + lord then that's 13 attacks! also, you are only moving around the field as per deepstrike instead of regular movement. you still get to shoot and assault normally. it's not like coming in from reserve.

[CoNnZ666]

but surely thats situational on where they deep strike and whether the vehicle had moved. Wouldnt warriors be more relibale against say eldar tanks and such which will always be on the move. The flayed ones would however be better against say guard or marines

[Godsmasherbot]

well you can teleport the lord and up to 1 other squad of necrons within 6" (even out of combat), it's up to you what you want to teleport. i still prefer a melee squad to a shooting as not many things in the list have guns good enough to penetrate the armour. it's true that all things glance on a pen roll of a 6 but some do it easier than others. with a squad of warriors it takes much longer to actually do anything compared to a melee squad as the shots have more chance to miss.

[LotrWargamer]

great list but i might put 4 destroyers in one group and the destroyer lord with 3

[Number1GamerAsh]

not a fan of 2k points and dont relly like the match against crons so stop giving them tactics lol only joking hard list

[m4tty4england]

Do a apocalypse size army list or something cool :D

[gandalfwiht]

wow awsome for planet strike

[Godsmasherbot]

A really useful unit is the teleporting lord and flayedones as they can just teleport around behind each of the tanks on the field and carve them open. It REALLY works