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  • Why are so many in the church booing the works of God and applauding the works of the devil? If you are not for the works of God, then you are for the works of another master and he ain't Jesus.

  • Oh NO!!! Young people praying and worshiping for hours and hours??? We've got to figure out how to get them back to their video games... SMH!!

  • missing a more than a few nuts and bolts, are we ???

  • and the last half. Neither the spiritual interpretation of the Song of Solomon nor references to “the romance of the gospel” have anything to do with sensuality, but with the adventuresome love that is filled with a spirit of abandonment that sacrificially loves and obeys Jesus. An example of this is seen when Paul and Silas sang songs of love to Jesus after being beaten and thrown into prison (Acts 16:22–26).

  • This is IHOP's response to something along these lines...

    We deny, we refuse, all sensual overtones in proclaiming Jesus as the Bridegroom. Jesus is not our lover or boyfriend. We do not go on “dates” with Jesus. Receiving the “kiss of God’s Word” (Song 1:2) has nothing to do with physically kissing God.

  • Sure... You enter the room and notice a lot of them worshipping in a very individual manner, each of them sings whatever he or she thinks is right, there's no a minister of worship fulfilling his job accordingly, and...best of all, is the question as follows: Are you all sure that the spiritual beings ministering Bickle are all angels of light? Think again!

  • wow, I would like that 2 minutes of my life back. :)

  • THIS GUY IS CONFUSED ,SO WHAT IF THEY DO WORSHIP FOR HRS ,MIKE BICKEL HAS STARTED A YOUTH MOVEMENT ,IT IS SWEEPING THIS LAND IN HOLINESS ,MIKE HAS A COLLEGE ,SORRY FALSE DOCTRINE IS NOT PART OF THE AGENDA,

  • This is a very wrong perspective given by this video. Mike Bickel openly teaches against a romanticize Jesus. Please listen carefully to his teaching at One Thing 2011. It is available to anyone freely on the web. He does speak of the church as Jesus' bride, which is completely biblical. Please don't criticize a wonderful movement! Check it out for yourself and see. God is there in a mightly way!

  • We are brides of Christ so what's wrong with being romantic with Jesus? Jesus wants an intimate relationship not traditional religion.

  • i hope Todd will get the word to the unsaved, i feel sorry for the people who support your radio sir

  • Has he ever been there... Nope, well, that explains this quite nicely.

  • Riiiiight....because seeking out the heart of God and being obedient to His Word are unfounded doctrines, right? Exceedingly long worship services? WORSHIP NEVER CEASES IN HEAVEN!!! "Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty..." for eternity. And IHOP has exceedingly long worship services? Get over yourself. 24/7 prayer is unfounded? Let me introduce you to a scripture: 1 Thessalonians 5:17 - "Pray without ceasing". But alas, I cast these pearls before swine. Wake up, puppets of deception.

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  • Oh, but about what 6868098 said, they're right on being soooo in touch with the presence of God. Marriage was, after all, created to be a reflection of the relational covenant between God and His children, Christ and His bride. Get over the perverse mindset that it's an inappropriate perspective. Sorry but it has to be said.

  • Most def IHOP is struggling with sound theology. It's due to the fact that they base their spiritual growth with the Lord on discipline instead of recieving.... (which, of course, will lead you to misunderstand the heart and Word of God). However, these kids love God and have been blessed! No reason do doubt their worship and prayer as genuine. Theology? Not so good. It's blindness, not deception from Mike Bickle. Everyone makes mistakes he's not doing it on purpose.

  • @selahengle But it does need to get fixed. It's discouraging to a lot of their students.

  • I am deeply in love with God,Jesus and the Holy-Spirit,i cant stay or live without them,without them i will be nothing,OK TODD...And i so much thank him Jesus for bringing up ministries like IHOP to help us who are thirsty and hungry for learning,understanding and longing to be in his Prescence.I even pray for IHOP now that God may bless,help,guide and counsel them into doing his will always.

  • People should stop preaching about IHOP and start preaching the word of God,If a caring parent takes his or her kid to another place not her home he or she should be sure himself the place is good for the kid,we are tired of this judgmental antichrists who post this videos,If u are true Christians then Preach the word of God and let wrong people to God...He is the only judge.

  • @tebogo65 Apply what you said to yourself... don't warn people by judging videos... instead preach the Word of God.

    Buddy, I think some cool things happen at IHOP... fair enough... but it was one lie from the devil, a lady adding and taking away from what God said, and an ounce of lust that led to disobedience. If there is a dangerous aspect of the overall IHOP movement wouldn't you welcome it, especially if it comes from atop the IHOP pyramid or in the sneaky theology sorta like Mormonism.

  • @ypastorjoel i do preach of Jesus everyday in my life,i just maybe couldnt do it enough for u here,but its my way of life to Preach the word of God. i didnt mean to judge if u thin i did,was just saying my opinion about those videos.

  • @tebogo65 I'm saying you should have no problem saying "If any of these claims or warnings are legitimate please feel free to leave IHOP because IHOP would then have compromised the Word of God."

  • renew your mind, use spiritual eyes.

  • Okay. After watching a couple more videos from this Todd guy, I can't say that I disagree with a lot of what he says. I just do not think he's looking at this correctly, and I don't think it's fair to say that loving Jesus is wrong. You have to balance God as Lord and Father. And, does the Bible not say that He is coming back for a spotless BRIDE?? Don't a husband and bride have a relationship?

  • Okay, iHOP uses the Bible in ALL of their music! They are worshipping, praying, and constantly throwing out scripture. One cannot base their relationship with God on "worship" sessions, prayer meetings, or what others that attend iHOP look like either - this is true. On that note, I completely agree. BUT, the big truth here is that hot-headed people like Todd think that they always know what is correct, and they will never be able to recieve from any other ministry. Loving Jesus is not a sin.

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  • @truthmovement1~ The whole reason God created man was to be in relationship with him. Once man sinned we no longer had access to God in the intimate way that Adam experienced God. But when Jesus came and died for us we now have access to God through the blood of Jesus. So to be constantly in His presence doesn't seem to me like a cult. This is what God envisioned for man since the beginning.

  • Doesn't the Scripture say that Christ is the Bridegroom of the Church? Seeing Christ as a bride groom is not a physical lust but a longing to be in His presence as one would with a spouse or significant other. This is very metaphorical not literal.

  • isn't the church described as the Bride and Jesus as the Bridegroom? 

  • yo bro fail

    

  • When other churches start praying and fasting or hungering after God as much as people I know from IHOP KC, then start criticizing the movement, but as far as I'm concerned, most churches aren't praying and fasting for revival in our nation, but it's part of the Christian lifestyle. There's some things I don't agree about IHOP end-time teachings, but one thing I do know is God is pouring out His Spirit and Jesus is waiting for a bride that is on fire for him, not look-warm. Peace,

  • I don't think this is bad representation of the IHOP church. The IHOP church is twisting the scripture and perverting the relationship between Jesus and man. I've seen, personally, a few who were messed up spiritually because of the IHOP church. I would say "get out" if you're involved, and "run away" if you are thinking of joining. This church cult is NOT what God envisioned for His people as a true Bible-based spiritual education and/or following.

  • Todd friel is great, but persuading others to go against what is obviously in God's heart is so sad. He sounds like a reformist, pretty sure he is. He will be judge by every word he says against ANY ministry, just pray he has BIBLICAL backing because with IHOP he doesn't. Read here for an unbiased look at IHOP. nytimes.com/2011/07/10/us/10pr­ayer.html

  • @omargvillacres ..I have visited IHOP ..stayed for several days. The people are nice and the theme seems idyllic but Todd has hit the nail squarely on the head.

  • this is disrespectful, to Ihop, even to make fun of it as a pancake house, be respectful! 

  • Ihop is false

  • IHOP is an amazing movement. Adults get in a religious mindset, when it is ALL ABOUT A PERSONAL, LOVE RELATIONSHIP with JESUS CHRIST ! In Revelation it talks about us as the "Bride of Christ". Get out of the religious mindset ! Jesus IS my lover. It makes me sick that anyone would call it "creepy". We're in the next great awakening, & it's the young people, it's my generation, that is leading it ... & it starts with LOVE. Not creepy. This made me really upset. I'll be praying for you all.

  • no, you have to fix your eye on Jesus! how is having a relationship with jesus "creepy." I would say having w relationship with YOU is creepier -.- Jesus will bring this up on judgement day and you will pay the price for slandering,

  • Bitterness. Anyway doctrine is important yet God wants you to come to him for life (Thats in the Bible) also doesnt the bible say God calls us beloved? and the bride of Christ? So what do you propose? that we dont act like Jesus or God is intimate with us...and then go to church every sunday and stand in worship with our hands in our pockets?

  • Lots of testimonies have been coming out of IHOP of abuse and control of the students. They feel it's their job to ship these kids off for deliverance from demons so they can come back to them better. CULT google it u will find some scary testimonies. Notice these nut jobs prey on the young and idealistic.

  • this is complete ignorance. ihop encourages intamacy with jesus as in being one with him in heart and spirit, not sexually or in a creepy way. there is absolutly nothing wrong with ihop. sounds like you just have a religious spirit. this podcast is complete trash.

  • @FOBizLOVE I agree with you. It's an amazing day when experiencing God, moving in His miraculous power, seeking unity, loving others in gentleness and loving the Father and the Son is an immediate cause to question and to brand a person or movement false - while being utterly powerless, anti-experience of God, anti-love of Jesus and harsh and sarcastic in tone makes you one of the few remaining "true teachers."

  • Yes 24/7 Prayer is bad. go clog your arteries!!!

  • Ihop is a great place

  • that's wut you get when yoour a fundamental baptist...so resistant to change but damn we love our food and church basement movies...meanwhile the holy spirit is moving in intense ways..thats why im def not a fundy

  • IHOP: (I had never heard this term before) house of PRAYER????????????????

    they call this prayer??????????

    do they not know what pagan prayer is? or psychic prayer? do they regard truth that poorly (well yes they do).

    they will NOT find the joy they seek, poor kids. Despising sound doctrine they cannot seek the spirit. What a poty that we who hold sound doctrine do not seek him either, hence encouraging this

    and yes, "Jesus as my lover" is sickening. He is sovereign Lord

  • @Strefanasha Jesus is our lover. Also Sovereign Lord. Also friend. Also Daddy. God is more than just the Sovereign God. We are called the Bride of Christ. Doesn't that mean we are in love? These people love God soooo much. They worship and pray 24/7 out of love.

  • @couches12 you know this, you know anyone who claims this, by their fruit.

  • @couches12 and if their fruit is not good then their "jesus is my lover" will be sexualized and thus perverted heresy.

  • @Strefanasha ah i love their fruit there. Their fruit is love. And from the fruit flows miracles and healings and even more love. I have awesome friends from there that just love people and love God. I'm with YWAM right now and theres IHOP people here. Theyre helping start a revival in Huntington beach!!!! its so crazy. God is so good =)

  • @Strefanasha i am his bride!!! ooohh ahhh i looove him soooo much! i love his kisses and embraces!!! i lov ehis eyes and his face! ooohhh Jeeeeeezzzuuussssss!!!!

  • A lot of rhetoric here.... sounds like you don't have an argument or a basis for your opinion.

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  • All i can hear is personal opinion and nothing of what the bible says.

    Show me some fundaments, please. And stop being ironic, that from what i know is not a fruit of the spirit.

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  • it's not worth my time honestly thanks anyway.

  • @hkelson I'm sorry, I thought you cared.

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  • @hkelson Gird up your loins, I'm posting a follow up soon!!

  • The prayer movement and the importance of intercession I would say are definitely things that need to be emphasized more in churches today. I believe most churches are direly lacking in this area. As saints we need to wrestle on out knees for the lost of this world.

    That said I think IHOP goes about it in questionable ways

    Read Revival God's way by Leonard Ravenhill for solid and godly truths on intercession. Mike Bickle makes me raise an eyebrow

  • Yeah... I'm a YWAMer and we're merging with these guys and honestly I don't know how I feel about this...

  • This Video is absolutely Rubbish....what would Todd say about the Disciple that lay his head on Jesus' Lap.....some of the most unsound doctrine and no scripture to match up what he is saying....=a pointless rant

  • @acela123 I'm sorry but everything you have just said is utter Garbage, there are plenty of places in the Bible that plainly show that it is possible to have Visions and see Angels...Acts 2:17 being a very good example..This is why it is important for a believer to line things up with scripture and Go by what God says not how they feel...please next time you try and make an argument..Come Biblicaly Correct..God Loves You and wants to have a real relationship with Him...not something one-sided

  • acela, there are also complaints from parents that claim that their children were forbidden or coerced to not have contact with them. In the comments section of this post, I listed a link that documents various complaints about those that are in leadership positions that are associated with IHOP.

  • He by no means addressed anything about what IHOP leadership believes and practices. No one in IHOP would say they have a ungodly intimate relationship with Jesus. And when did long times of worshiping Jesus become bad? I don't get this at all and it breaks my heart that people would listen to this man's opinions and slander. I pray for his soul. It terrifies me that he feels justified in bashing others without even understanding where they are and why they do what they do based on scripture.

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