ChosonNinja Contradicts Himself....Typical of Him.

[FussiestBore3]

before before i start i am just gonna state i am not full of martial arts knowledge or claim to know alot of japanese tradition however i enjoy japanese culture anyways what i really wanted to tell is that u really are making urself look like a dick im pretty sure that gregs stuff isnt all right and u have every right to say so but to call him retarded and that his stuff is bullshit oh and that he should quit making videos that sure as hell isnt right funniest thing is u got your facts from wiki

[MrSikert]

stupid kid!!!!

[Hathhe]

Jesus christ, I dont know why I put myself through your pure retardation. Why wouldn't he be using bamboo?! The japanese are using bamboo for tamashigiri all the time since it is a hard target. And all targets, even a sheet of paper, dulls and potentially scratches the blade. Just stop trolling lika a bitch, stop tormenting this community and get a life.

[ramonthe3rd]

youre a freak who hasnt still grow hair on your balls and have read two japanese things on wikipedia and you feeling brave enough to discuss semantics with choson ninja. Wow, youre so badass. buy a life faggot.

[Haku92292]

@ramonthe3rd Ooooooooo, don't you feel like a tough old bad ass? I don't have time to fuck around with little shit heads, like yourself.

Now please, don't let me interrupt you and your boyfriend fucking each other in the urethra. Come back when you even know where Japan is on the map.

[ramonthe3rd]

@Haku92292

you must have mistaken me for someone else, ive got no boyfriend. By the way, choson ninja is a good fighter, a good teacher and even good people, you, in the other hand, are a frustrated bigot complaining about everything. You look like a angry Gargamel when losing to the smurfs

[tzijing]

@Haku92292 do u have any martial arts videos of your own?

[cyberjackcyberjack]

ChosonNinja is just full of shit, all the time.

[cyberjackcyberjack]

ChosonNinja is full of shit, full stop. !!

[TheTrueHappy]

All arguments aside, I hope you were joking about saying he has very poor skills. As a martial artist he is amazing, and his forms are perfect. Furthermore you're being a dick. Regardless of whether or not you are correct, you put forth your opinion in a whiney, and rude manner. In all of Greg's videos, he remains humble, polite, and respectful, and you choose to bash him with terms like "bullshit" and "frikkin retarded"

Again, I'm not arguing with you on the topic of the video.

[Haku92292]

Yeah, Greg is humble. You seem to know nothing on the matter. I'm not whining, I'm just saying it. It seems greg has brainwashed you too. All I can say is, learn more, then talk to me. Greg does have poor skills, and poor knowledge.

[TheTrueHappy]

I'm not brainwashed by anyone thank you very much. I've been practicing the martial arts since I was a small child, and I've only just recently discovered his videos, so to say I'm brainwashed is ridiculous. You know nothing of me or my life, don't assume so much.

I was only giving constructive criticism. Even if Greg isn't humble for real, in his videos he seems it, to an outsider, 3rd party, the normal person would choose to believe him over you.

[TheTrueHappy]

As I said, you may be correct in what you are saying about Greg. Someone who is brainwashed would not say that. I just wanted to tell you, that if you would like to be taken seriously, then tone down on the petty insults, gather your thoughts calmly, and remain respectful. No martial artist, even if they agree with what you say, will appreciate someone who is disrespectful.

And I know for a fact that Greg is an amazing martial artist, even if everything he says verbally is incorrect.

[ximasi]

@TheTrueHappy "his forms are perfect". WRONG!! You people need to stop believing everything you see on Youtube. Especially with this kind of stuff. The guy is encouraging people to pick up weapons they havent a clue about an try to learn from really short videos of himself not even doing things well. People will hurt themselves and oth and other people.

Thanks to Haku92292 for pointing at bullshit, and calling it bullshit.

[Haku92292]

What I do look down upon is learning an art, like Jujutsu, or Ninjutsu, which I practice, for the sole purpose of fighting, and not gaining any knowledge of the history behind it, and why it was used. Thats what MMA and UFC fighters do. They know nothing about the art they learned.

[ToraJutsu01]

that is perhaps a problem if they dont truly understand the art and then go ahead and teach it in a flawed manner, but i think to learn a martial art without the intention of fighting is flawed within itself, if we learn the art, but never its application, the art becomes diluted by weakness, because the individual has not been tested, and cannot know that they have learned correctly.

[ToraJutsu01]

perhaps an analogy would serve better. to forge a sword, with all the correct perameters etc, is what martial arts training is for. but if we never test the sword (real combat, not dojo or sport fighting like mma) then we can never know if the sword truly works. all katana were tested before they were given to samurai, lest the sword shatter upon its first cut or block. my biggest beef is with people who arent fighters, teaching combat, thus those who learn are naive to the flaws they are taught

[ToraJutsu01]

the above analogy relates to the balance between trad and modern teachings. i find all too often that the best teachers of trad styles are not fighters, have never had their skills tested, and thus have psychological flaws in their approach to teaching a person technique application. the techniques they teach are flawless, but the artists they train are not forged weapons, just decorative peices to be hung on the wall, am i making sense?

[ToraJutsu01]

i have a question, and i'm not taking anyones side in this pointless debate about authenticity, i just wanted to point out that it is possible he used tameshigiri in the "laymans term" of the word, as in most martial artists know what it is, so rather than give the korean word, he could have just used the word we are all familiar with. not attacking you haku, just pointing out that it is possible greg uses japanese as most are more familiar with those terms being associated with ninjutsu.

[MrBucket0fries]

fuckin kids talkin shit , that actually have no clue wtf your talking about... are you JAPANESE? are you from JAPAN?? f no.

have you balls even dropped? fuck no you are still in your daddy's sack.

[Haku92292]

Ha kids talking shit? Your the ass that believes choson. You fall for his crap, just as all the other kids have. If you have no clue what I'm talking about, why did you bother to watch. Did you just come to to be immature? Have a nice life loser. Keep eating those buckets of fries too, fat ass.

[MrBucket0fries]

immature? stfu kid... i dont eat buckets of fries but i will go get one and dump it all over your head and make you dip the fries in a pile of rhinosaurus shit and eat them.

why you talkin shit about that guy though? do you have a masters degree in history? are you a devote historian of japan.. were you born in japan? are you immortal and were there while the samurai were doing there thing?... im just tellin you kid.. you dont know the fuckin truth... so stop whining about choson ninja.

[Haku92292]

Yes, I am an immortal samurai. I'm really Miyamoto Musashi. Are you happy? I lied just like Greg, so you must like me now, as you like liars. I don't care if something's more effective. I'm a traditionalist. Now fuck off.

[ToraJutsu01]

Haku: i have another question, your a traditionalist, i respect that, i am too in other elements of my life. my question tho is, whats more important to martial arts: keeping it as it was, or keeping it real? this doesnt relate to the debate with greg, it is a matter of opinion, do you think it better to keep things traditional even if it detracts from the techniques effectiveness? should we discourage adaptation and risk stagnation? i'd like to hear your opinion if you would like to give it.

[Haku92292]

I say both. Always however learn the traditional way, or you'll never grasp the concept, or point. You can also modify the art to work in todays world. For instance, dodging an attack from a katana isn't going to be that useful today, unlike the past. However, you can modify that to work against something you may encounter today. But learning the traditional way will broaden your perspective, and knowledge of the art.

[ToraJutsu01]

Thats a fair stance to take, i agree. i beleive a problem arises though when people focus on the traditional, spend there time learning and understanding concepts, as you say, and then find themselves in a situation. at that stage they may not have gotten to the level where they can apply the trad to a modern situation. this renders what they have learnt useless, not because it is useless, but because the majority of people are unable to make this transition, either in training or mentality.

[MrBucket0fries]

hes just teaching customized types of styles. they can be affective and better than the original.

[SouthernSerpent]

That is not the point of the video. He is not criticizing the effectiveness of chosen liars techniques, he is laughing at chosen liars fake, fabricated history and lineage.

I dont do written confrontations with internet hard men, so save the badly spelt insults.

[Haku92292]

Thank you^^.

[tora7sensei]

coff coff tassle is chinese..... all my chinese swords have that

[bootysweater]

Wow I dont like greg myself, but you sound like a hateful japanophile. Japan happens to be more well known, but he probably just used both because they are the SAME. Its like saying bimmer and bmw. They are the same arent they? Its just the name....and that very well could be a korean style dress.

[bougifukumetsu]

No, they are NOT the same. In the first place, Korean doesn't sit like Japanese "seiza". Korean doesn't wear sword(s) through belt (obi) like Japanese. Please be careful not to be fooled by Zapanese who want to cheat you by mixing up Japanese things and Koreans.

[JesusFuckingChrist84]

Why advise people against cutting bamboo?

Cutting bamboo is a part of learning. Strength for bamboo and finese for Tatami. Bamboo can leave scratches on a blade, yes, but if it is a sword that is used for tameshigiri, I would certainly expect scratches on my blade. Besides, they can be taken out in the sharpening process, anyways (Assuming you do it right).

[Haku92292]

Strength in cutting? It doesn't take much to cut off a mans arm. you need precision, thats it.

[JesusFuckingChrist84]

True, but being able to stay precise through dense targets is good practice. In my opinion, anyways.

Things like Goza and things of that nature are probably harder to cut in the long run, though...

[Haku92292]

True, however, bamboo was never used for such training. There was a time when samurai however, practiced kiri sute gomen, which is the cutting of anyone who does not honor the samurai, so if you want to say they should practice using dense targets, rather than the tameshigiri mats, thats something they did, along with using condemned prisoners (I forget what this is called).

[JesusFuckingChrist84]

I think that settles it. ;)

I do not recall what the practice was called, either. They took a different limb depending on the crime or they simply cut to kill... I recall old blades being inscribed by the smith how many bodies the blade was able to cut in a single stroke. Pretty interesting stuff...

At any rate, I forgot to thank you for being one of the ones to point out this BS.

Take it easy,

Sal

[bougifukumetsu]

Haku-kun, kirisutegomen was not a practice. It was sort of the right like justifiable self-defense and was under the stringent requirements.

If you cut someone as kirisutegomen (self-defense), your sword was confiscated as evidence. You needed a witness if you were going to insist kirisutegomen. Or else, you were subject to criminal. And at worst, you had to die. And from what I hear, there are few cases granted as actual burei uchi (cutting out of dishonor).

[Haku92292]

You understand what I mean^^. The samurai had to a have a justifiable reason, although they still had to go to trial, but you're 100000% correct.

[bougifukumetsu]

Like Haku says, what's most important to bring out katana's best cutting performance is precision. You just swing it in a precise manner, then katana will do its work. In Japanese, we have this term Hasuji. Swinging katana precisely is the most importanat skill to cut something with a katana. That is Japanese sword art. It's for cutting, not for chopping with muscle strength.

Watch real sword artists' vids and you'll see a big difference between their skills and ChosonNinja's very poor skill.

[JesusFuckingChrist84]

Uh huh. If you have visited my channel, you will see in my favorites many videos of true swordsman. I am well aware of what Hasuji is, it is Edge alignment (i.e, precision).

I don't like to be lectured in such a manner. ;)

I know where you are coming from, but I'm merely pointing out that resistance is present on harder targets, and being able to maintain is also apart of learning how to handle the sword. Of course, this is just my opinion.

[bougifukumetsu]

I was just watching your favorites. I see now that you are aware of the importance of precision.

BTW, forgive me if I offended you. Maybe I used inappropriate word? I know I need more practice using English but I didn't mean to offend you. I respect differences of opinion. But when I want to chop bamboo, I'd use chopper/froe. When I want to cut grass, I'd use sickle/scyth. Katana is not for them. This is just my opinion.

Good luck with your sword art practice.

[bougifukumetsu]

Haku, do you know what's the funniest thing? Even korean version of wikipedia doesn't have the article of this gumsool crap. There is no Ryu except greg's traditional gumsool. What kind of tradition is it?

[Haku92292]

Gregs ryu is Liar Ryu. Its a vry secret Korean school.

[kidosool]

Actually, gum sool is a proper Korean term, however it only means "sword technique". Korean arts usually classify things as "Gum Bup" (sword method). The Muyeadobotongji (manual of ancient Korean martial arts) does detail several authentic ryu. However, Greg's is not one of them lol His stuff is BS.

[bougifukumetsu]

And Muye tobo t'ongji (武藝圖譜通志) show us the fact that early Korean martial arts (Gum Bup) were merely reflections of Chinese arts.

Anyway, this reading Japanese kanji in korean way is what they do first when they want to steal Japanese martial art. Like kumdo/Gumdo did (Only korean refused to call the art Kendo and made up bogus history) and Tae kwon do did. In 1940s Koreans were calling it kongsudo/tangsudo which was korean reaading of 空手道/唐手道 (Karatedo).

[skymilesdc5]

that was me....the type of bamboo he's using looks like Giant reed bamboo (Arundo donax) and those are the worse type bamboo to cut because unlike other bamboo their not hollow, their very dense and will leave deep scratches in the blade he might as well chop dry sticks

[Shiiransama]

maybe greg uses Japanese terms because hes too illiterate in his own language to use korean terms.

[OkamiNinja7]

Maybe, that's very likely.

[Haku92292]

He can't even speak English right. Have you ever seen hi grammar. WOW its bad!

[OkamiNinja7]

True that. I mean, I should know, I was arguing with him recently because he wouldn't answer my questions that pertain to his art, such as his previous grandmasters, etc.

[FatGuyWithAKatana]

it's a well know fact that Alzheimer's originated in Korea. bottles scratch katanas too apparently :(

[skymilesdc5]

dont worry those scratches from the bottles can be easily removed (bottles dont leave deep scratches)