As much as I didn't like the new movie, I don't think a new TNG movie would cut it. We need a next, next generation (no, not JJ Abrams idea of a raped Star Trek). We need a new cast, a new ship, and a completely new and original adventure.
one problem i found with the new movie i saw was that after the timeline of the nx class the ship's were built in space ship yards not on the planet but other then that i liked the movies all of them and i happend to be the captian of the NCC 1701-E U.S.S ENTERPRISE on facebook
I have to agree his art director should be killed. It's alot like a parody already. The bridge design, the comm, phaser and everything, and the sets on the ship were horrendous!
As a long devoted Trekkie, let me say that I had absolutely no problem with this movie, and that there is nothing to compare Kirk with Anakin Skywalker with. Especially since this Kirk can act and isn't some mama's boy like Anakin.
I think Abrams did a great job, the only thing I didn't like, was that the villain in the movie, was the same villain that killed Kirk's father, I thought Nero destroying the Kelvin and also facing off against Kirk, was too closely related for one film. Sure have a drastic event kill his dad, but not the same villain that this one movie is about. i thought that was corny, other than that, I enjoyed the movie.
They were supposed to have made 1 more TNG film to end their journey, but was cancelled.. I didn't really like star trek 11 due to bad casting and the bridge of the enterprise look out of place.
Im sorry to ask but are you fucking retarded the new Star Trek movie was the most succesful one yet, and you think that piece of shit is better, for one thing the Ent -E would have been launched in SPACE, not Earth
Someone could use their digital mastery to make a similar trailer, but instead of the AR (Alternate Reality) Enterprise in said trailer, it would be the PU (Prime Universe) Prometheus-class Enterprise-F.
This star trek seems like it's star trek 90210. I am still looking forward to watching it, but I have low expectations. I hope its sci-fi, and I hope it's not the cliche hero/villain plot. Gawd, I hate those.
The hero/villain plot could not have been more cliche and generic, so you won't be impressed in that aspect. If you're a ST fan you will get a few rewards in the form of nostalgic one-liners and mannerisms, but all in all it is a marginal film IMO. I didn't walk away impressed or disappointed. Then again I don't go into the theatre with very high expectations these days, so I'm rarely disappointed. I don't expect much from Hollywood anymore.
"I am afraid, the new movie will just be another action-Mainstream Film. Star Trek was never really Mainstream, and always had its own Philisophy and Ideals."
Absolutely right. That's why I think it doesn't survive translation. The best of TNG was cerebral and abstract and experimenting. You translate it to the big screen, and enemies become black/white, characters become heroes and villains, technical matters are ignored, everything that doesn't reflect modern expecations is removed, etc.
if you REALLY think about STXI, you'd see that it does exactly what Q wanted picard to do @ the end of "all good things...": explore the possibilities of existence.
I think you're protesting the fact that the new film isn't TNG, right? Well i know prequels are old hat, but the TNG cast can't go on doing it forever, just like the TOS cast didn't. Let it go.
thats why STXI did so much better than TNG: because in real life, sitting down and acting like jean-luc picard rarely happens and is not realistic. (ex. big 3 at yalta; roosevelt basically gave stalin permission to keep what countries he took from germany. ex. obama w/ US economy crisis).
sometimes, and i know that you trekkies refuse to admit it, but you just have to take action on certain issues (ex. patton)
Star Trek XI wasn't even in the same BALLAPARK as ST: TNG. You forget that in the 24th century nobody cares about starting shit with each other, and that sort of thing would happen quite a lot more than you action buffs would like to think.
no, seriously. i speak from experience. 9 times out of 10, you don't have time to sit down and talk things through until you reach a conclusion. most of the time, you're thrown into a situation with absolutely no training or help and you have to sink or swim.
TNG ignores that, saying that there's always time to talk it through. well, in real life, that rarely gets anywhere. because while one man talks, another man is seizing the day and doing things.
personally, i don't think we'll ever get that far. either an economic disaster will happen (and everyone will blame it on GWB), or the atheists/evolutionists will declare war on religion (christianity in particular) and global nuclear war will annihilate us all
For some reason that reminds me of a quote from Charles H. Duell, He was the director of the US Patent Office. !n 1899, he said, "Everything that can be invented has been invented." We see how right he was. lol
@xeractus As much as I agree with you, why don't make post TNG? Picard can be at the maiden voyage of the enterprise F ( I know there isn't an F but it's they built, i'm getting sick of the sovereign class)
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That sucked. Trek fans have to forget what they know about the origins of Star Trek TOS. This movie is not a prequel, but a reboot. Its restarting the whole franchise, the only thing that remains the same is the names. It will be exciting to see Star Trek evolve, like for what it is. Don't hate is because what its not. Oh, and for the record TNG movies have all sucked. Fell asleep at the theater watching the last one.
good point, i suppose. however, the last TOS movie was in 1996 and was a success. The last TNG movie bombed, DS9 has gone to novels, and VOY isn't worth the film its filmed on. TOS is what people think of when they think Star Trek. Kirk and Spock, all that jazz.
I am afraid, the new movie will just be another action-Mainstream Film. Star Trek was never really Mainstream, and always had its own Philisophy and Ideals. One of these is for example the Attempt to keep the Universe believable by respecting Things done before, this is the so called "Canon". This is one of the Tings, that made ST special. But now, beginning with Nemesis, The greedy Paramount and Frieds care a shit about these things, they only care for the Mainstream to make the biggest profit.
Great vid i used to be a star trek fan until episodes became predictable....sorry..anyway i think they should have stuck with TNG or at least tell a story involving Benjamin Sisko or Kathryn Kaneway..just a suggestion
Sadly, Michael Dorn (Worf) decided that he would not do any more Star Trek films after Nemesis so that's why it ended in such a final manner; they knew no more were forthcoming for TNG. Since he was in DS9 also it rather diminishes the possibility of a movie there, too.
I'd like to see something with Janeway, though. That'd be epic!
"Michael Dorn (Worf) decided that he would not do any more Star Trek films "
i find that hard to believe. michael dorn was the biggest trekkie of the TNG cast and was very into his character development. and since i can't find any quites on memory-alpha or google...
Actually if you read the book series started with Flag Full of Stars the san fransisco shipyard is actually ON earth. So that part is acurate. As for this movie being to die hardish, in a way im looking forward to it. Perhaps what star trek needs is a fresh outlook. Abrams has said from the begining this movie is NOT being made for Die Hard trek fans. But for a whole new fanbase that has never watched a trek episode. I am a HUGE trek fan, but i am DEFINETLY looking forward to this movie.
for star trek nemisis when the trailer was relesed evryone was going wild puting on trek costumes on geting exited and what about now hm? nothing but haters star trek is being KILLED star trek is ment to be about finding new life and not shoot to kill, james bond is another matter i am not to pleased with the things like leaveing out the gun barrel sean but i think thay will put it back so not realy a huge bitch fit about that but siriosly, startrek is runed.
Dude... get over it. It's a re-imagined alternate universe of the original and it will succeed or fail on it's own merits. As for TNG... maybe they'll re-imagine that one day too. In the meantime, watch all the reruns you want. I for one, want some new adventures.
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Mate everthing youve said is very true, the new batman films are crap (not that I liked the the other ones apart from Batman Returns). Also the Enterprise should be built IN ORBIT not on the ground, I mean wtf is all that about!. the only decent "reimagined" series ive seen is Battlestar, the new ST film is going to be toal shite. Nolans joker = a fucking disgrace, not the joker at all!
Sadly I think you're right, though I hope you're wrong. Star Ships are built at utopia planitia in orbit of earth. How can a star ship (particuarly of that era) avoid collapsing in earth's gravity? How could it get into orbit without tearing itself apart? Yes, Voyager could land on planets but thats a more advanced time, and Voyager isnt that big anyway.
Utopia Planitia yards are actualy in orbit around Mars not Earth. San Francisco Fleet Yards were in orbit around Earth. It would be much simpler to build Ships in orbit and float parts into place, for one contamination of gases and dirt isnt a problem in orbit, You could build parts on Mars and moved them into orbit easyier than Earth as the gravity on Mars is 0.35gs. Voyager is roughly the same length and breath as the 1701 but is a much higher tonnage
I guess none of you have watched TOS episode where the Enterprise, inside Earth's atmosphere, was attacked by the Air Force fighter pilot who had to be beamed aboard and later returned to his own time because his son was gonna lead the first manned misson to Saturn in the future. the Enterprise was in Earth's atmosphere close enough for a 1960's fighter plane to attack it.
I have had enough of JJ Abrams his trash talk about future Star Trek fans. The man is an absolute a**h***and has no business even coming near Star Trek. Who is the clueless genius that allowed this punk to take over the Trek franchise and proceed to f*** it up like this?
Kirk is just another whiny Anakin Skywalker, that 'ship' is a futuristic TMP abomination, and that bridge is Galaxy Quest II.
You're dead on Chris. The trailer that has recently been released made me cringe. Personally I'd be happy with the first ten films and leave the project as is. It's as bad as Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 8 comics where they have Buffy's sister transforming from a normal human, to a giant, to a centaur. Like that, the New Star Trek film looks like crap. JJ should stick to Cloverfield and Lost and leave Star Trek alone.
@CaptainSuperGuy jeez what grade are you in? you must be some little 13 year old who thinks he's a tough guy playing call of duty or something. anyway kid, i never said JarJar-Trek was superior. but to be sure that b&b franchise crap gutted Trek. so to sum up: "get a life!"
Only thing wrong with "Nemesis" was it's length. Didn't they aim for a really cool story with edge? A battle against another cloaked ship is nice. But make it longer. Bring some D'deridex class warbirds into help..and watch 'em all get fragged by the new one. All the while the Enterprise limping away to the border where the Federation ships now await.
15 minutes of space-fighting onscreen, watchin them all do shit we've never seen since the battle of DS9, all against 1 vastly kick-ass ship.
(cont.) Watch her tear through Fed ships; 359 all over again. She could use a smaller version of that rad-gun she turned into. Then have Remans beaming onto Fed ships, taking over & wuh oh, who is the bad guy now? Then you got Fed ships turning off eachother shields only to have the Scimitar vape them anyway. Less fed ships, better course for Earth. Maybe it ends with a pseudo-mutiny on board, or it cliff-hangs. Only to be sequeled with the end of that space-battle/more.
I'm actually not a fan of huge battle scenes. Its harder to see and feel the struggle. There is more carnage, less drama, and the whole thing feels like less of a chess match between masters. I'd prefer seeing Kirk and Khan duke it out, to seeing all of starfleet take on every last romulan in the entire quadrant.
I already said this another video but romulans last encountered humans before kirk was in starfleet, and since then starfleet has had no contact until one of the episodes in the original series. How they intend to put in an antagonist they can not see or even identify will require either some good work (not to be seen from abrahms) or just ignoring that and fucking all the star trek fans for the sake of a rehashed villian
The reason being is that Nero the romulan traveled back in time to kill Kirk and old Spock to save him. And as for the movie as a whole it's a reboot of the entire franchise a re-imagining if you will.
This is just one person but that sounds gay. If anything holds proven, it is that modern reimagings of great ideas that were done decades ago suck. Movies (and tv) in general these days suck and not like the movies decades ago. So why pull great works into this maelstrom of suck that is today? Must be really out of ideas; pissing me off.
Ya for the most part your right but you also have to put into consideration movies like batman begins which in my eyes is the best batman movie ever well next to the dark knight of course, Who knows it might just suck or it might just make a lot of ppl eat their words and be the best trek ever. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Well actually the new batman movies suck, but I suppose you do not know batman very well. Movies like batman are judged by the masses of people who are not familiar with the original material and who also just have poor taste these days. That had to be the worse joker I ever fuckin seen; i suppose when they say,"reimagine" its a trick word for "not care about the fuckin source material" But hey Lucas did it for star wars, why not allow it for everything else :/
Wow everything sucks as far as your concerned for starters you are only like 20 I have a good 10 years on you. And as for me not knowing batman at all you are even more clueless then I had originally thought.
I've been reading comics since I was a kid which was long before you were even born. And if you even know anything about the source material for the dark knight movie you would know that it was based on the Dark Knight graphic novel which is considered by most the greatest graphic novel of all time second only to Watchmen.
You can keep your lack of critical-thinking rhetoric and your idioms to yourself. I am also sick and tired of hearing about graphic novels; they are fuckin comic books with a binding. The jokers makeup was all wrong, he never was funny or cracked a joke, and the person that played him looked nothing like the joker. He had none of the class that separates the joker from other villains; they should have just called him "The Clown" because he certainly wasn't joking around or clever.
It looks good....almost too good. But that's just looks.
If they stray one iota from the origin, (which I've heard they are and have done, by now.) then I'm walking out of the theater, with or without my friends...I'll wait in the lobby.
Star Trek Nemesis pretty much finished off the TNG cast. It was a bad Wrath of Kahn wanna-be. After that film there was no shot at getting a mass audience to buy into another sequel and none of the other Trek series had a big enough following to justify a movie.
I wasn't a huge fan of "Rebooting" the Trek franchise, but when they brought in J.J. Abrams to do it I had faith. I'm pissed they pushed the film off until next Summer, but I'll be there when it opens.
IDK man..I dig some of Abrams stuff but a lot of it I don't. I just hope he doesn't take any liberties with this film. It's fine to update it, after all TOS was the 60s version of the future, but don't change anything radically.
but erm... u appear to have forgotten as the enterprise e is a sovereign class star ship unlike the intrepid class (ie voyager) it is incapable of atmospheric flight despite what some books may try to have us believe
I'm sure a ship designed to handle ion storms could handle a bit of atmospheric pressure on a slow trip out into space. Not designed for atmospheric flight and incapable of it are two different things.
I think what pissed me off about VOY the most was the fact that the overall plot of "returning home" always got pushed back to make room for bogus techno blabble and "upholding the damn Prime Directive" storylines. They didn't stress the danger of being so far away from home as much as i would have preferred. It was always like "we're in big trouble here, being 70,000 lightyears from home we really should be getting back-ohhhh LOOK! a NEBULAE! Let's INVESTIGATE!"
But the transwarp inertial sequencers are out of alignment with the hyperdementional sub outlet micro conversion processors!!! VOY always annoyed me that no matter what the problem was, it was solved by a 2 minute explanation of something that should have been realized right away (as far as they were concerned).
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I mean, I wish I could forget about ST: Nemesis and Insurrection and Generations; it's a good thing that anyone who is introduced to the Trek franchise through this movie won't have to sit through another one of THOSE movies again.
I see this as the difference between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins.
I don't get why Trek fans don't like the movies which are character driven stories? Haven't we learned by now that Star Trek is about telling "morality plays in the future" -- Gene Roddenberry. It seems all they want is action oriented stories with no sense or drama.
dude chris this is exactly what it should have been! not sure why you chose the sovereign considering its already flying around somewhere but it still looked bloody cool
the thing i dont understand is i thought the enterprise A was built in space and not on the fucking ground like it showed in the teaser which is fucking stupid jj abrams should of just went ahead and made a sequel to cloverfield instead of fucking up gene roddenburys vision of star trek. its a descecration of a classic that the fans helped turn into an icon and he goes and wrecks it. its like fucking with starwars episode 4,5 and 6 which would be calling for a public execution this is a disgrace
I think you wrong at assuming that all the Enterprises' were built in space. They were CONSTRUCTED on the surface, and assembled in Space, thats why the Enterprise Plaque says "U.S.S Enterprise, Constitution Class, San Francisco" as it was bult there but not assembled there.
Correction. Star Trek XI is Kirk era, its just pre TOS, when the Enterprise was first comissioned. But you might be right in assuming the film will fill in the missing parts after ENT.
The only reason they are doing a Star Trek in the past is because some schmuck of a director wants to basically rewrite Star Trek history to his own liking, and Paramount singed off on it just for the money.
Let's pray this film can... something has to bring the original Trek spirit back, and it sure hasn't been the last set of movies (and lets not even mention Enterprise the show....)
@Bearographer You are right for (TOS) Kirk's Enterprise, but it hasn't been discussed onscreen-- in a few novels and ref books.
The ENT-D and -E were designed/built at Utopia Planitia, in Mars orbit.
You're welcome. :)
KirneH004 5 months ago
@xeractus
besides, nemesis killed data...
fooby0 9 months ago
The worst thing of Star Trek Xi was the enterprise construct on ground, and this footage did the same. A better Ship, but I still don´t like
mguimaraens 10 months ago
As much as I didn't like the new movie, I don't think a new TNG movie would cut it. We need a next, next generation (no, not JJ Abrams idea of a raped Star Trek). We need a new cast, a new ship, and a completely new and original adventure.
Forlo12345 10 months ago 4
They need to make a TNG movie with Q in it. Not the one from Voyager but the one from TNG.
smcneal057 10 months ago
@smcneal057 There both the same guy
killakadafi77 10 months ago
@killakadafi77
I know that my point is that Q should be the way he was in TNG. When Q was in Voyager he was a weak character.
smcneal057 10 months ago
@smcneal057 okay, i agree, hes only in one ds9 episode and 3 voyagers
killakadafi77 10 months ago
I don't get it..........
jptang1701 11 months ago
one problem i found with the new movie i saw was that after the timeline of the nx class the ship's were built in space ship yards not on the planet but other then that i liked the movies all of them and i happend to be the captian of the NCC 1701-E U.S.S ENTERPRISE on facebook
iornman577 11 months ago
The Enterprise shouldn't be built on earth...
sharlowidalot 1 year ago 2
lol, not bad.
But i would wish for an enterpriseC TV-show
JAGTHEGEMINI 1 year ago
what was the point?
67irishfire 1 year ago
I have to agree his art director should be killed. It's alot like a parody already. The bridge design, the comm, phaser and everything, and the sets on the ship were horrendous!
RedShirtDavid 1 year ago 3
So... you want a movie with the C.P.P. Kickstart as the main ship? Got to admit, that'd be pretty funny.
CobaltX07 1 year ago
As a long devoted Trekkie, let me say that I had absolutely no problem with this movie, and that there is nothing to compare Kirk with Anakin Skywalker with. Especially since this Kirk can act and isn't some mama's boy like Anakin.
Potrimpo 1 year ago
I think Abrams did a great job, the only thing I didn't like, was that the villain in the movie, was the same villain that killed Kirk's father, I thought Nero destroying the Kelvin and also facing off against Kirk, was too closely related for one film. Sure have a drastic event kill his dad, but not the same villain that this one movie is about. i thought that was corny, other than that, I enjoyed the movie.
MrMichael1701 1 year ago
My thought's on the New Trek.
I Liked it, I was always a huge fan of TOS. But I believe the New movie wasn't as good as The Original Series.
startrekgamer 1 year ago
they need to make a damn movie based on Enterprise, Captain Archer was badass
lgmmrm 1 year ago
@lgmmrm : now THAT i would like to see
knytrydr73 1 year ago
They were supposed to have made 1 more TNG film to end their journey, but was cancelled.. I didn't really like star trek 11 due to bad casting and the bridge of the enterprise look out of place.
mikesway23 1 year ago
@mikesway23 I didn`t like it because the last TNG movie just plian sucked.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
Im sorry to ask but are you fucking retarded the new Star Trek movie was the most succesful one yet, and you think that piece of shit is better, for one thing the Ent -E would have been launched in SPACE, not Earth
Magus322 2 years ago
This is from Star Wreck (CPP Potkustart = Kickstart) tho... how sad is it when PARODY on star trek is better than Star Trek itself?!
JOtruba 2 years ago 5
you're right, another Enterprise-E movie would have been great!
TheKevinV08 2 years ago
this film was cool
luigi19987 2 years ago
This comment board has cynical written all over it. ;)
chrisklecker 2 years ago
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lol should hace beeb made in siace
Malicorian 2 years ago
Someone could use their digital mastery to make a similar trailer, but instead of the AR (Alternate Reality) Enterprise in said trailer, it would be the PU (Prime Universe) Prometheus-class Enterprise-F.
Ironicicle1990 2 years ago
But overall Did you like the new movie?
startrekgamer 2 years ago 2
ghey
prophetic0311 2 years ago
which star trek episode is the clip of the ship taking off
kungfukong 2 years ago
it is from the parody star wreck: in the pirkinning
FarosWarrior 2 years ago
This star trek seems like it's star trek 90210. I am still looking forward to watching it, but I have low expectations. I hope its sci-fi, and I hope it's not the cliche hero/villain plot. Gawd, I hate those.
gukonni 2 years ago
The hero/villain plot could not have been more cliche and generic, so you won't be impressed in that aspect. If you're a ST fan you will get a few rewards in the form of nostalgic one-liners and mannerisms, but all in all it is a marginal film IMO. I didn't walk away impressed or disappointed. Then again I don't go into the theatre with very high expectations these days, so I'm rarely disappointed. I don't expect much from Hollywood anymore.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago
"I am afraid, the new movie will just be another action-Mainstream Film. Star Trek was never really Mainstream, and always had its own Philisophy and Ideals."
Absolutely right. That's why I think it doesn't survive translation. The best of TNG was cerebral and abstract and experimenting. You translate it to the big screen, and enemies become black/white, characters become heroes and villains, technical matters are ignored, everything that doesn't reflect modern expecations is removed, etc.
gukonni 2 years ago
experimenting, with what, evolution??!
if you REALLY think about STXI, you'd see that it does exactly what Q wanted picard to do @ the end of "all good things...": explore the possibilities of existence.
bookworm1138 2 years ago
what part of the next degeneration was ever cerebral...
I mean really. It ruined star trek.
It's Kirk or nothing. Thank-Q they didn't make a next degeneration film. Thank-Q!
Mglosk 2 years ago
I think you're protesting the fact that the new film isn't TNG, right? Well i know prequels are old hat, but the TNG cast can't go on doing it forever, just like the TOS cast didn't. Let it go.
xeractus 2 years ago 13
thats why STXI did so much better than TNG: because in real life, sitting down and acting like jean-luc picard rarely happens and is not realistic. (ex. big 3 at yalta; roosevelt basically gave stalin permission to keep what countries he took from germany. ex. obama w/ US economy crisis).
sometimes, and i know that you trekkies refuse to admit it, but you just have to take action on certain issues (ex. patton)
bookworm1138 2 years ago
Star Trek XI wasn't even in the same BALLAPARK as ST: TNG. You forget that in the 24th century nobody cares about starting shit with each other, and that sort of thing would happen quite a lot more than you action buffs would like to think.
Shrike2415 2 years ago
no, seriously. i speak from experience. 9 times out of 10, you don't have time to sit down and talk things through until you reach a conclusion. most of the time, you're thrown into a situation with absolutely no training or help and you have to sink or swim.
TNG ignores that, saying that there's always time to talk it through. well, in real life, that rarely gets anywhere. because while one man talks, another man is seizing the day and doing things.
bookworm1138 2 years ago 2
in the 21st century, yes :)) who know's how it will be in the 24th, if we ever get there...
danibwr 2 years ago
personally, i don't think we'll ever get that far. either an economic disaster will happen (and everyone will blame it on GWB), or the atheists/evolutionists will declare war on religion (christianity in particular) and global nuclear war will annihilate us all
bookworm1138 2 years ago
or religion on the "non-belivers", that's how it happened in the past... but who knows... i hope i will not see it happen
danibwr 2 years ago
oh grow up! catholics aren't the only ones who love killing people!
bookworm1138 2 years ago
you are right, humans in general love that :))
danibwr 2 years ago
atheists do it just as much
bookworm1138 2 years ago
Aren't you the hopefull one :P
TheCastellan 2 years ago
But god will save us!
Sorry it had to be said...
SailinganFD 2 years ago
For some reason that reminds me of a quote from Charles H. Duell, He was the director of the US Patent Office. !n 1899, he said, "Everything that can be invented has been invented." We see how right he was. lol
cpc28655 2 years ago
Well, except one's not dealing with 'men' in Trek, so thinking human all the time then won't work.
TheCastellan 2 years ago
@xeractus As much as I agree with you, why don't make post TNG? Picard can be at the maiden voyage of the enterprise F ( I know there isn't an F but it's they built, i'm getting sick of the sovereign class)
helmer95 1 year ago
lukeg is jelles
niels332 2 years ago
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That sucked. Trek fans have to forget what they know about the origins of Star Trek TOS. This movie is not a prequel, but a reboot. Its restarting the whole franchise, the only thing that remains the same is the names. It will be exciting to see Star Trek evolve, like for what it is. Don't hate is because what its not. Oh, and for the record TNG movies have all sucked. Fell asleep at the theater watching the last one.
Lukeg12345 2 years ago
good point, i suppose. however, the last TOS movie was in 1996 and was a success. The last TNG movie bombed, DS9 has gone to novels, and VOY isn't worth the film its filmed on. TOS is what people think of when they think Star Trek. Kirk and Spock, all that jazz.
VelocityTheory 2 years ago
They should hire you, Fire Abrams, scrap the Pseudo Star Trek 11 and have you re-make Star Trek 11 with the Enterprise as seen in your film.
MagnumSerpentine 3 years ago
I am afraid, the new movie will just be another action-Mainstream Film. Star Trek was never really Mainstream, and always had its own Philisophy and Ideals. One of these is for example the Attempt to keep the Universe believable by respecting Things done before, this is the so called "Canon". This is one of the Tings, that made ST special. But now, beginning with Nemesis, The greedy Paramount and Frieds care a shit about these things, they only care for the Mainstream to make the biggest profit.
LutzDerLurch 3 years ago
I AGREE!
nickrohn93 3 years ago
meh.
TNG had its day. you'll have to be happy with 21 seasons of TV and 4 movies. thats more than enough.
VelocityTheory 3 years ago
lol no.
usbiker133t 3 years ago
My last comment was in Reply to JAHAD007... I don't know why it didn't post properly.
Anyway, this video was pretty good. :-)
Aerithen 3 years ago
Too true. This is what I was expecting!
JaTuc 3 years ago
Great vid i used to be a star trek fan until episodes became predictable....sorry..anyway i think they should have stuck with TNG or at least tell a story involving Benjamin Sisko or Kathryn Kaneway..just a suggestion
JAHAD007 3 years ago
Sadly, Michael Dorn (Worf) decided that he would not do any more Star Trek films after Nemesis so that's why it ended in such a final manner; they knew no more were forthcoming for TNG. Since he was in DS9 also it rather diminishes the possibility of a movie there, too.
I'd like to see something with Janeway, though. That'd be epic!
Aerithen 3 years ago
"Michael Dorn (Worf) decided that he would not do any more Star Trek films "
i find that hard to believe. michael dorn was the biggest trekkie of the TNG cast and was very into his character development. and since i can't find any quites on memory-alpha or google...
...where did you hear this?
VelocityTheory 3 years ago
Haven't seen him do much since....he'll be back
urbansilverstar 3 years ago
Actually if you read the book series started with Flag Full of Stars the san fransisco shipyard is actually ON earth. So that part is acurate. As for this movie being to die hardish, in a way im looking forward to it. Perhaps what star trek needs is a fresh outlook. Abrams has said from the begining this movie is NOT being made for Die Hard trek fans. But for a whole new fanbase that has never watched a trek episode. I am a HUGE trek fan, but i am DEFINETLY looking forward to this movie.
AdmiralChaos99 3 years ago 3
Wow fucking Sweet
Lonewolfy8Archangel 3 years ago
for star trek nemisis when the trailer was relesed evryone was going wild puting on trek costumes on geting exited and what about now hm? nothing but haters star trek is being KILLED star trek is ment to be about finding new life and not shoot to kill, james bond is another matter i am not to pleased with the things like leaveing out the gun barrel sean but i think thay will put it back so not realy a huge bitch fit about that but siriosly, startrek is runed.
call it die hard:trek edition
trimi38 3 years ago
Dude... get over it. It's a re-imagined alternate universe of the original and it will succeed or fail on it's own merits. As for TNG... maybe they'll re-imagine that one day too. In the meantime, watch all the reruns you want. I for one, want some new adventures.
PopeyeCove 3 years ago 4
I think that was much better... this should be the real one.
peteradams138 3 years ago
baaaaah
Ghandahlf 3 years ago
Also the idea of making a starship on the planet is fuckin stupid.
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
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Mate everthing youve said is very true, the new batman films are crap (not that I liked the the other ones apart from Batman Returns). Also the Enterprise should be built IN ORBIT not on the ground, I mean wtf is all that about!. the only decent "reimagined" series ive seen is Battlestar, the new ST film is going to be toal shite. Nolans joker = a fucking disgrace, not the joker at all!
joelang1699 3 years ago
Sadly I think you're right, though I hope you're wrong. Star Ships are built at utopia planitia in orbit of earth. How can a star ship (particuarly of that era) avoid collapsing in earth's gravity? How could it get into orbit without tearing itself apart? Yes, Voyager could land on planets but thats a more advanced time, and Voyager isnt that big anyway.
JayEey 3 years ago
Or is it mars?
JayEey 3 years ago
Utopia Planitia yards are actualy in orbit around Mars not Earth. San Francisco Fleet Yards were in orbit around Earth. It would be much simpler to build Ships in orbit and float parts into place, for one contamination of gases and dirt isnt a problem in orbit, You could build parts on Mars and moved them into orbit easyier than Earth as the gravity on Mars is 0.35gs. Voyager is roughly the same length and breath as the 1701 but is a much higher tonnage
joelang1699 3 years ago
I guess none of you have watched TOS episode where the Enterprise, inside Earth's atmosphere, was attacked by the Air Force fighter pilot who had to be beamed aboard and later returned to his own time because his son was gonna lead the first manned misson to Saturn in the future. the Enterprise was in Earth's atmosphere close enough for a 1960's fighter plane to attack it.
DrHoe77 3 years ago
"they solved baldness in the 24th Century"
WOW thats sad... i mean How? the Fuck can you know that!?!
jeezz.....
and he must want hair othewixe he'd shave off that weird bit round the edge of his head...
samopollo 3 years ago
Well done.
SeansCafe 3 years ago
"Kirk is just another whiny Anakin Skywalker"
Booo he's better than Picard! at least he has hair!
samopollo 3 years ago
They solved baldness in the 24th century, picard just have dignity, charisma, charm, and pure fuckin testosterone that he doesn't want nor need hair.
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
Star Trek movies started really sucking after Star trek II. What makes you think another will be any different?
I've seen better episodes of star trek then the STTNG movies.
fuji9991 3 years ago
wow how did you do this effect of the Enterprise-E
scotty00001 3 years ago
THERE IS MOTHERFUCKIN' ***JFK***
ON THE MOTHERFUCKIN' STARSHIP!!!
**AND** John Glenn!!
**AND** Neil Armstrong!!
THAT IS FUCKING AWE-INSPIRING
AND YOU GUYS *MISSED* IT!!
kittypie070 3 years ago
My comments on Star Trek XI:
I have had enough of JJ Abrams his trash talk about future Star Trek fans. The man is an absolute a**h***and has no business even coming near Star Trek. Who is the clueless genius that allowed this punk to take over the Trek franchise and proceed to f*** it up like this?
Kirk is just another whiny Anakin Skywalker, that 'ship' is a futuristic TMP abomination, and that bridge is Galaxy Quest II.
ChrisJonesMods 3 years ago
You're dead on Chris. The trailer that has recently been released made me cringe. Personally I'd be happy with the first ten films and leave the project as is. It's as bad as Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 8 comics where they have Buffy's sister transforming from a normal human, to a giant, to a centaur. Like that, the New Star Trek film looks like crap. JJ should stick to Cloverfield and Lost and leave Star Trek alone.
Gene Roddenberry must be spinning in his grave.
EvolutionStratus 3 years ago 2
I have to agree! I just wanted to have a real trek movie...JJ Abrams fucks up! Great trailer.
FloLars 3 years ago
@ChrisJonesMods Hear Hear! The new Star Trek is shit.
munnonockspirit 1 year ago
Um ships are made in orbit? wtf
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
not always.
joness105639 3 years ago
no they are always, especially that class of ships.
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
No, thanks.
TheOrangeFrog 3 years ago
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Here's hoping no more GD movies based on the crap TNG era. Hurl!!
racybr 3 years ago
It's not crap. Your statement is crap.
ChrisJonesMods 3 years ago
@ChrisJonesMods your mom's statement is crap. and she goes to college. and stuff. sheesh.
racybr 1 year ago
@racybr JJ Abrams' "Star Trek: Dumbass" IS crap! You're out numbered, you stupid little asshole, so get the hell over it!
CaptainSuperGuy 1 year ago
@CaptainSuperGuy jeez what grade are you in? you must be some little 13 year old who thinks he's a tough guy playing call of duty or something. anyway kid, i never said JarJar-Trek was superior. but to be sure that b&b franchise crap gutted Trek. so to sum up: "get a life!"
racybr 1 year ago
Only thing wrong with "Nemesis" was it's length. Didn't they aim for a really cool story with edge? A battle against another cloaked ship is nice. But make it longer. Bring some D'deridex class warbirds into help..and watch 'em all get fragged by the new one. All the while the Enterprise limping away to the border where the Federation ships now await.
15 minutes of space-fighting onscreen, watchin them all do shit we've never seen since the battle of DS9, all against 1 vastly kick-ass ship.
Tsujanryo 3 years ago
(cont.) Watch her tear through Fed ships; 359 all over again. She could use a smaller version of that rad-gun she turned into. Then have Remans beaming onto Fed ships, taking over & wuh oh, who is the bad guy now? Then you got Fed ships turning off eachother shields only to have the Scimitar vape them anyway. Less fed ships, better course for Earth. Maybe it ends with a pseudo-mutiny on board, or it cliff-hangs. Only to be sequeled with the end of that space-battle/more.
Pity I didn't write it.
Tsujanryo 3 years ago
Such fanwankery is exactly what the series needs least of all. Feel free to hang your head in shame
CommanderBjorn 3 years ago
Fanwankery? Mental masturbation?
So...having a keen interest in a fandom will not get me hired on as a writer?
My enthusiasm doesn't count for anything? Or was it over-extended for a medium such as this?
I must remind you of trekkies & trekkers you see at shows eh?
They hired a fan to write that new POS posing as STAR TREK; he was just a fan of STAR WARS. They almost got it right.
Other fans write for work. Like Joss Whedon, his favorite ship, if I'm not wrong, is the Millennium Falcon.
Tsujanryo 2 years ago
I'm actually not a fan of huge battle scenes. Its harder to see and feel the struggle. There is more carnage, less drama, and the whole thing feels like less of a chess match between masters. I'd prefer seeing Kirk and Khan duke it out, to seeing all of starfleet take on every last romulan in the entire quadrant.
joness105639 3 years ago
I already said this another video but romulans last encountered humans before kirk was in starfleet, and since then starfleet has had no contact until one of the episodes in the original series. How they intend to put in an antagonist they can not see or even identify will require either some good work (not to be seen from abrahms) or just ignoring that and fucking all the star trek fans for the sake of a rehashed villian
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
The reason being is that Nero the romulan traveled back in time to kill Kirk and old Spock to save him. And as for the movie as a whole it's a reboot of the entire franchise a re-imagining if you will.
Paladin1978p 3 years ago
This is just one person but that sounds gay. If anything holds proven, it is that modern reimagings of great ideas that were done decades ago suck. Movies (and tv) in general these days suck and not like the movies decades ago. So why pull great works into this maelstrom of suck that is today? Must be really out of ideas; pissing me off.
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
Ya for the most part your right but you also have to put into consideration movies like batman begins which in my eyes is the best batman movie ever well next to the dark knight of course, Who knows it might just suck or it might just make a lot of ppl eat their words and be the best trek ever. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Paladin1978p 3 years ago
Well actually the new batman movies suck, but I suppose you do not know batman very well. Movies like batman are judged by the masses of people who are not familiar with the original material and who also just have poor taste these days. That had to be the worse joker I ever fuckin seen; i suppose when they say,"reimagine" its a trick word for "not care about the fuckin source material" But hey Lucas did it for star wars, why not allow it for everything else :/
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
Wow everything sucks as far as your concerned for starters you are only like 20 I have a good 10 years on you. And as for me not knowing batman at all you are even more clueless then I had originally thought.
Paladin1978p 3 years ago
I've been reading comics since I was a kid which was long before you were even born. And if you even know anything about the source material for the dark knight movie you would know that it was based on the Dark Knight graphic novel which is considered by most the greatest graphic novel of all time second only to Watchmen.
Paladin1978p 3 years ago 2
Now maybe you should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth junior.
I would like to leave you with something to think about "A closed mouth gathers no foot" keep your negative comments to your self.
Paladin1978p 3 years ago
You can keep your lack of critical-thinking rhetoric and your idioms to yourself. I am also sick and tired of hearing about graphic novels; they are fuckin comic books with a binding. The jokers makeup was all wrong, he never was funny or cracked a joke, and the person that played him looked nothing like the joker. He had none of the class that separates the joker from other villains; they should have just called him "The Clown" because he certainly wasn't joking around or clever.
KommissarMakita 3 years ago
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Nolans Batman = Worst Batman films ever, loved by the masses of idiots that will watch anything and like it due to CGI.
joelang1699 3 years ago
Wow. Really? So you like Joel Schumacher campyness and bad Arnold acting? To each his own..
JediBillman 3 years ago 4
yeah, batman and robin was total shit...clooney even apologised for being so crap
urbansilverstar 3 years ago
lol....Oh shit.....Galaxy Quest. hah
It looks good....almost too good. But that's just looks.
If they stray one iota from the origin, (which I've heard they are and have done, by now.) then I'm walking out of the theater, with or without my friends...I'll wait in the lobby.
It'll be like Trashformers all over again.
Tsujanryo 3 years ago
Star Trek Nemesis pretty much finished off the TNG cast. It was a bad Wrath of Kahn wanna-be. After that film there was no shot at getting a mass audience to buy into another sequel and none of the other Trek series had a big enough following to justify a movie.
I wasn't a huge fan of "Rebooting" the Trek franchise, but when they brought in J.J. Abrams to do it I had faith. I'm pissed they pushed the film off until next Summer, but I'll be there when it opens.
MattinNC74 3 years ago
IDK man..I dig some of Abrams stuff but a lot of it I don't. I just hope he doesn't take any liberties with this film. It's fine to update it, after all TOS was the 60s version of the future, but don't change anything radically.
kingsman1288 3 years ago
Yer they should use enterprise E or another new searise like voayger in a film. i hat that they are recreating TOS as a film.
freid001 3 years ago
A TNG sequel would be best. No one can replace the actors for TOS.
LordEnnazus 3 years ago 2
The closest thing to another Trek prequel that I'd ever really want to see is an adventure starring Captain Sulu and the Starship Excelsior!
oklahomatim 3 years ago
I AGREE I LOVE EXELSIOR LOL
kieron5678 3 years ago
I agree too how cool would that be
and ive heard george takei would be up for it!!
captaingerbil11 3 years ago
nice
but erm... u appear to have forgotten as the enterprise e is a sovereign class star ship unlike the intrepid class (ie voyager) it is incapable of atmospheric flight despite what some books may try to have us believe
elfangor1989 3 years ago
well you'll have to take that up with the guys he got the footage from. Star Wreck, the Pirkinning
marks47 3 years ago
I'm sure a ship designed to handle ion storms could handle a bit of atmospheric pressure on a slow trip out into space. Not designed for atmospheric flight and incapable of it are two different things.
nowhereboy 3 years ago
It doesn't exist. So it cannot be capable or incapable of anything. It isn't there.
RaelWander 3 years ago
LOL!!! Awesome!!! -that how it should have been!!! I want TNG back!!! I want the Enterprise-E back!!! I want Picard back!!!
alcibiade666 3 years ago
Wasn't happy about no11 not being TNG.
Nice vid guys
morgstar1 3 years ago
Paramount deserve a spoon so they can eat my ass!
PrinceCharmlesssss 3 years ago
the official trailer is a TEASER trailer
so theres gona be a other
sanderrodijk 3 years ago 2
oh shit now thats what im talkin about
the E went before her time
and wildly over the top books and badly rushed games dont cut it
they should have done at least 5 tng films
nice trailer it was a pleasure
humida 3 years ago
this is partly from the star wrek movie but coll anyway
haloN00B2000 3 years ago
The movie could be a mirror universe story. In the Enterprise Episodes it never shows the mirror enterprise being constructed in space.
TheMusicIndustry 3 years ago
Although I don't like TNG, your trailer is beautiful, a great trubute to the 1701-E!
HungarianKnight 3 years ago
yes, well done.
Picard and crew STILL deserve a good send-off movie!
assimilator47 3 years ago
"Star Trek: Nemesis" really dropped the ball. It didn't give enough closure to the story of the crew of the Enterprise-D&E.
pokemate86 3 years ago
No. The series finale of TNG did.
AndycorpPro 3 years ago
And then they spoiled that with Generations ,if only paramount/viacom had only done a Voyager with the elements of DS9 .
themightyjfox 3 years ago
I think what pissed me off about VOY the most was the fact that the overall plot of "returning home" always got pushed back to make room for bogus techno blabble and "upholding the damn Prime Directive" storylines. They didn't stress the danger of being so far away from home as much as i would have preferred. It was always like "we're in big trouble here, being 70,000 lightyears from home we really should be getting back-ohhhh LOOK! a NEBULAE! Let's INVESTIGATE!"
AndycorpPro 3 years ago 2
Right on! You hit right on the nail!
landgsmith 3 years ago
Glad to know I'm not the only one out there who thinks that. Haha
AndycorpPro 3 years ago
But the transwarp inertial sequencers are out of alignment with the hyperdementional sub outlet micro conversion processors!!! VOY always annoyed me that no matter what the problem was, it was solved by a 2 minute explanation of something that should have been realized right away (as far as they were concerned).
Zenn3k 3 years ago
Awesome, cheers mate, i knew someone would know the exact episode
Clayton240183 3 years ago
What exactly is it that JJ Abrams et al. have "blissfully ignored?"
apollodorus85 3 years ago
That's what I'm wondering, I think the creator of this video has blissfully ignored something along the lines of "It's a new Prequel movie"...
twocvbloke 3 years ago
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I mean, I wish I could forget about ST: Nemesis and Insurrection and Generations; it's a good thing that anyone who is introduced to the Trek franchise through this movie won't have to sit through another one of THOSE movies again.
I see this as the difference between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins.
apollodorus85 3 years ago
I don't get why Trek fans don't like the movies which are character driven stories? Haven't we learned by now that Star Trek is about telling "morality plays in the future" -- Gene Roddenberry. It seems all they want is action oriented stories with no sense or drama.
AndycorpPro 3 years ago 5
wrong enterprise
musicmanWP 3 years ago
........star wreck!!! XD
BlackOmega9 3 years ago
It was on mars. It was buing built on Utopia Planitia's Planet Yards
darthdemain 3 years ago
I have recolections of a scene in an episode that shows a Galaxy class under construction on a planet. Looked like possibly Mars
Clayton240183 3 years ago
You're correct, that was in the TNG season 7 episode "Parallels."
apollodorus85 3 years ago
dude chris this is exactly what it should have been! not sure why you chose the sovereign considering its already flying around somewhere but it still looked bloody cool
stormtroopernoob 3 years ago
people just wait for 11 months
than we will talk
sanderrodijk 3 years ago
the thing i dont understand is i thought the enterprise A was built in space and not on the fucking ground like it showed in the teaser which is fucking stupid jj abrams should of just went ahead and made a sequel to cloverfield instead of fucking up gene roddenburys vision of star trek. its a descecration of a classic that the fans helped turn into an icon and he goes and wrecks it. its like fucking with starwars episode 4,5 and 6 which would be calling for a public execution this is a disgrace
WarBahamutX 3 years ago
I think you wrong at assuming that all the Enterprises' were built in space. They were CONSTRUCTED on the surface, and assembled in Space, thats why the Enterprise Plaque says "U.S.S Enterprise, Constitution Class, San Francisco" as it was bult there but not assembled there.
summer247 3 years ago
It was built at San Francisco fleet yards in synchronis orbit above San Francisco.
Kiwibirdman1701 3 years ago
Hey dumb ass Enterprise A was built in space, Star Trek XI is about the ORIGINAL Enterprise
LegoFreakPictures 3 years ago
All ships were built in space from the nx-01 enterprise era forward
apollo967 3 years ago
This isn't the Enterprise nor Star Trek.
The reason of the upcoming film is to fill the missing gaps between Kirk's time and the Romulan War. The Romulan War was suppose to happen post ENT
Spectual1 3 years ago
Correction. Star Trek XI is Kirk era, its just pre TOS, when the Enterprise was first comissioned. But you might be right in assuming the film will fill in the missing parts after ENT.
summer247 3 years ago
The only reason they are doing a Star Trek in the past is because some schmuck of a director wants to basically rewrite Star Trek history to his own liking, and Paramount singed off on it just for the money.
BygPhattyPlus 3 years ago
You're right about Paramount and money however I believe that Abrams wants to save Star Trek
LegoFreakPictures 3 years ago 2
Let's pray this film can... something has to bring the original Trek spirit back, and it sure hasn't been the last set of movies (and lets not even mention Enterprise the show....)
dixiedream1n 3 years ago
So when exactly did the SW spirit leave?
Define 'last set of movies'.
Tsujanryo 3 years ago
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
SciFiSamurai1 3 years ago
Hehe !! Sweet !!
stephenhiggins53 4 years ago
As it should be..
TOS needs to stay in the past and on Star trek: Enhanced. Forever. Star Trek XI should be in the future, post Nemesis.
ChrisJonesMods 4 years ago