this man is a lair saying you dnt hv to give 2 th poor wen u bcum a Christian actually u r commanded 2 do so..he lyd all thru it ,Christian hv more proof thn Islam infact Christianity is a confirmation of wat was told in d old testament many professionals trying 2 understand th annunaki n Sumerians use th bible nt koran go figure
@ushigirl Dear friend, Please watch Qur'an and bible in the light of science (debate between Dr Zakir Naik and Dr William Cambell). There are more videos from brother yusuf estes when he explained regarding the discrepancies found in the bible. Peace. Take care my friend.
@ushigirl Dear this cannot be ascribed to Islam. Islam has laid a foundation for the slave's liberation. Although when slavery was not completely eliminated Islam protected them. E.g Muhammad said: Your slaves are your brothers... So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them (Bukhari). I would recommend you to read exodus 21. Tak care
@marissayangka Just open your mind and listen to him!..you listen to your teachers in school,college and university right,do the same here and just listen..using bad words against us won't harm us anyway my friend!
He(Yusuf Estes) never really understood Jesus. If he had, scriptures would have opened up to him as Jesus said in Mark 4:11-12 & Matt 13:10-17
Islam doesnt offer Jesus as its solution for mans salvation but instead offers a god named, allah. As a figment of mans imagination created from Brahmi sanskrit 500 BC it is NO surprise to find allah has NO image, right? That is why we dont share GODS! Our YHWH-Elohim, our creator who also 4gave our sins(Matt 9:6), created us (Gen 1:26-27)
The things he cites (unmixed Mediterranean and Atlantic, the orbit of the earth etc.), all represent natural facts. Angels and demons can communicate them to human beings. It does not prove the Koran is from God, only that it contains knowledge above what human beings know. Christianity, on the other hand, possesses many strict miracles. beginning with Christ's resurrection, down to our day, at Lourdes and elsewhere, where cures that proclaim the truth of Christ defy scientific explanation.
James 1:13 says GOD canNOT be tempted by "evil". So, was the devil (a representation of evil) successful? yes/no?
The prophesies of Jesus in the OT & NT called Jesus; GOD! Isa 9:6 & Matt 1:23
Allah is NOT God, not ours anyways b/c allah has NO image. Allah has NO power to become human, No power to force satan to bow down to Adam & No power to 4tell the future in the countless abrogations in the quran!
Proof of Trinity is verse U sited in Matt 27:46. Uv failed to comprehend that verse
YES! You read the books that made you become an atheist. It saddens me that you don't have anymore faith in your heart anymore :(
Maybe you simply got LOST along the way while reading those books?
Islam isn't just "go pray" or "go read the Quran" my brother. It's more than that.When I was a kid all what religion was to me was a package of stuff to do. But it turns out that these "stuff to do" had something I didn't understand back then. It's the treasure that you gave up on.
Properly read, the Bible and Quran are the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived. Read them with an open mind and try to discern them from a fairy tale. Children are all born atheists, and their beautiful innocence is the essence of life and humanity. Religious indoctrination is present everywhere, but in the end science is based on factual observation. Religion is the denial of observation so that faith can be preserved. Please stop basing your lives on 1 book from the past. Use Google.
I think that you don't believe only what you see and what you touch by yourself, right ? do you believe that inside you there is something called spirit ? have you ever touch it?
@zaatot1978 I don't really understand what you're saying, but no I don't believe in a spirit, I think we're an animal just like all the others, and to think you're special is delusional, because humans will not accept the end of their existence. They invent gods and an afterlife. I used to be a Muslim and turned atheist. Do you know why? Because I read books, and got educated. You should do the same.
You are funny, did you know that 90% of bible is false, in other words it's been written by priests, that's enough for me. A book of god or a book by mere humans? Not hard to choose brother. And after 1400 years you have not revealed a single proof nor miracle. Quran is a divine book, 1400 years old and contains stuff that we just knew less than 200 years. Thts all you need to convert.
@jefeisdguard why we said the bible is corrupted is because the concept of god, actually jesus nvr in his life said im god, worship me, the bible said that i am the son of the god doesnt mean that god actually have a son, cause in the bible itself never mention the concept of trinity... in the quran, we made it clear that this came by the All-mighty cause there are a lot of science ex, the human being in the mother womb, 1400 yrs ago, it is now be scientifically proven by the tecnology nowday
@jefeisdguard who know that how the baby is form precisely 1400 years ago, we never change the essence of the surah, the concept of god, that u cant understand cause u r not muslim, as i said before u can said evverything want n im just a reminder... the probleme with u is that u don really understand the word son of god in the bible... dont mind about me, just study about your history of bible, pls, dont talk so much the thing that u dont know.... last word fr me :D
I dont have to be a muslim to know what the truth is. It is getting tiresome for muslims to say I should learn arabic for a better understanding of Islam. It is disturbing. Why is it that in Sura 4:119; satan = allah? But ONLY in the arabic version? In the translated english version this is "allah"!
Gods word R final & U dont follow them! IN Genesis, God favors ONLY Isaac! He blessed Isaac & ONLY Isaac after the funeral of Abraham. Gen 25:11. What does that tell you?
@jefeisdguard :DD, did u believe that jesus is god because he is a messenger w/o father? is hte word 'son' really refer to begotten son? im just curious XD
No. I believe that Jesus is GOD b/c Jesus said so Himself. Jesus was nearly stoned to death for implying it & NEVER denying it. B/c Jesus is the high priest Melchisedek, who has NO mother NO father NO beginning NO end is the FIRST the LAST the ALPHA the OMEGA!
Only GOD the Father calls Jesus "BELOVED"! The word "son" is a term of endearment & LOVE! Do you call your step-child son or step child? Do you call a child you like "son" or "hey you"? This word is meant as sexual by muslims
@seyriona “I am” (John 8:58) “I am come into this world” (John 9:39) “I am the door” (John 10:7, 10:9) “I am come that they might have life” (John 10:10) “I am the good shepherd” (John 10:11, 10:14) “I & my Father are one” (John 10:30)(John 17:22) “I am the Son of God” (John 10:36) “I am the resurrection & the life” (John 11:25) “I am with you” (John 13:33) “I am in the Father” (John 14:10, 14:20) “I am the true vine” (John 15:1, 15:5) “I am not alone” (John 16:32, 8:29, 8:16)
@seyriona “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last” (Rev 1:8, 1:11, 1:17, 22:13)(Isaiah 41:4) “I am He that liveth … have the keys of hell & death” (Rev 1:18) “I am Jesus” (Acts 9:5, 22:8, 26:15) “I … am He” (John 4:26, 8:24, 8:28, 13:19) “I am come in my Fathers name” (John 5:43) “I am the bread of life” (John 6:48, 6:35, 6:51) “I am the light of the world” (John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46) “I am one bear witness” (John 8:18) “I am from above” (John 8:23)
John 12:49 -50For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
@jefeisdguard u said 'Only GOD the Father calls Jesus "BELOVED"! The word "son" is a term of endearment & LOVE!', so where did u get the idea that jesus is the son of god? can god be tempted? should god asking fo help from the other,''John 12:49 -50For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.'' he said this because he is a prophete, a human, not god. god dont need a command to do something :)
You speak w/o thinking. You speak human thoughts then you reply w/human thoughts & human reasoning. You are NOT thinking the thought s of God b/c God doesnt think the way we do; which is perverted thoughts defiled thoughts
Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD
Jesus is God b/c Jesus did NOT get tempted via James 1:13
1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Matthew 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
@jefeisdguard fyi, the surah 4:119 is story where, the word said by the devil to god , u dont know anything but u speak so much, u should read the ayah before 119 n im not arab =)
@jefeisdguard o.O? satan = allah? i think the verse is pretty straightforward and its pretty impossible to come to that conclusion unless you yourself want to distort your understanding of the verse to feed your believe, which is dishonest i think. And then to write the your distorted version here is irresponsible. Or maybe you didn't actually read the quran translation, just copy paste from other anti islam website.
Notice ---Allah--- refers to himself as "Khayrul-Makereen" which correctly translated means "Allah is the greatest of all deceivers." This is verified by looking up the root letters (Meem, Kaaf, and Rah) in an Arabic Dictionary such as Al-Mawrid:
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Rev 12:9
ISAIAH 14 has the Proud 5 “I's” of Satan. Very Proud One.
Satan deceived EVE, us & tried w/Jesus
Deceiver from the beginning
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver & an antichrist."
Cant you read what I said? Sura 4:119 ONLY IN ARABIC does it say Allah = satan.
It is interesting that even muslims say the meanings of countless quranic verses from Arabic to English are NOT always translated 100%! I have even heard that many verses besmirch NON-muslims!
There4 the deceit of Islam begins in the Qurans translations; but not just in English but in all languages!
@jefeisdguard dude, where that come from? allah= satan in arabic in the verse? that doesnt make sense lol. did u even speak arabic? know arabic? Or you just have mawrid dictionary? Or you just distort evrything according to your view. i've heard many wrong claims about quran, some need academic response, but yours is the weirdest one. Of course there's lost of meaning in translation, not just quran, happen to any language. Thats why i think its silly to think bible in eng is the word of god.
@jefeisdguard did you know that muslims never offend jesus?while western chrisians always oddend every thing related to islam even god himself?that's because jesus is a prophet we must believe in that's what the quran says .But the principle rule in the way of the god is to worship and obey him not to do so to any other being,oh yes that include his prophets.so we learn from prophet muhammed and prophet jesus and all others but we only acknowledge Allah as a god.
You say "we must believe what quran says"? How can any intelligent person do so knowing that NOTHING in the quran can be corroborated via an outside source including the bible?
2nd, IF Muh'd is a prophet, THEN PROVE IT! Jesus is a prophet, Messiah, Christ, servant & GOD.
3rd, tell me; why should I believe in ur god, allah? How is ur god my God when ur god doesnt fit the criteria of having an image as mine does in Gen 1:26-27 & Gen 9:6?
@jefeisdguard 1st corroboration with quraan depends on what version of the bible you have...actually there is only one quraan?
2nd depending on intelligence :is jesus the god to you or son of the god?and if the son of the god who is the father god?and does your saying about muhammed mean that you don't believe in any other prophets beside jesus?
3rd It's because he don't have an image i believe in him?that's is my friend can believe or can you not?
@adat1988 i forgot i wanted to ask you something ....imagine with me..just cope with it....if you wake up someday and it was the end of days ,and the christ descended from the heaven and all people knew him, and then he entered a mosque ,prayed with the muslims but as a muslim not a leader so as not to be the last prophet,and then crushed the cross in front of the world?can you honestly tell me what will you do then if that happened ??suppose it happened
1st, if Jesus came at the end of days & crushed the cross; then the whole bible would be a lie & Islam would prevail. This is why Islam is the exact opposite of the bible. Evil
2nd, there were 4 codexes NOT one as U assume
3rd, Jesus is both; son of God & God ... 1/3 the Trinity
4th, Jesus HAS THE IMAGE OF GOD THE FATHER! Read; 2 Cor 4:4 & 6, Col 1:15, Hebrews 1:1-3, John 14:8-9 (He that hath seen me seen the Father), Gen 1:26-27 & Gen 9:6
@jefeisdguard i would like to see where did that 4 codexes come from...there is only 1 quraan and many attempts by the jews to twist and mislead its meaning but ALWAYS eradicated..
You still didn't answer my question...what will you do then after discovering that the bible was a lie and jesus is muslim,supposing that it happened ?
When muslims assume there was ONE quran, I have to laugh to myself at their ignorance or their ardent efforts to lie. These are the following codexes:1) Hasfah codex 2) Abdullah Ibn Masud codex 3) Ibn Ka'ab codex & of course the codex Uthman backed was that from Zaid Ibn Thabit
Uthman collected & burnt all qurans from Syria to Iraq. Meaning the qurans were different! If they were all the same why BURN them? More than 1,700 variants attributed to Ibn Masud alone
@jefeisdguard that's why its very difficult to get it to non arabic folks like you...now i'm the one laughing..the 4 codexes my friend are all one version ...in the arabic language you can pronounce one word with more than one method to give THE SAME MEANING..not a word have been changed..and the 4 codexes still present they are not different versions.oh and uthman burned down 1700 twisted versions made to be sold and make easy money like you say it.probably by the jews of that era
Uthman BURNED all qurans b/c they were NOT exactly the same as Zaids codex. Here is an example of someone playing politics after Muhammads death. Muhammad never favored Zaid. In fact, Abdullah Ibn Masud & Ibn Ka'ab were his most favorite reciters!
Their codexes were already dispersed in Iraq & Syria!
The ONLY reason anyone would BURN a book is b/c of the 'changes' from those copies to the ones intended for all to use!
Islam lies when they say the quran was always the same.
@jefeisdguard first of all please note that "Islam" in arabic is mean a submission to Almighty God.
Secondly Al-Quran doesnt mean book! in arabic Al-Quran is mean The Recitation, and at the time of the Prophet Al-Quran is memorize by his companions and past down generation upon generation! and those recitations is still preserved until today.
And there milions of people from different nations who has memorized this great recitations! even though they are not arabs.
@jefeisdguard My friend, Muhammad never claimed islam is his religion, infact there are some jews and christian at his time come and say to him “ we are also a muslim” muslim means someone who practice islam.
History?? u sure? why dont yourself find any historical and language scholars or any arabs and listen the truth yourself eh? Please listen “Islam” in arabic language is also verb of action it does not just a use for genereal term of announce as religion.
All terrorists 'patterned' themselves after Muhammad (Q 33:21) This is true Islam, Muhammads Islam .... your Islam! Muhammad intimidated many to become muslims or else they would have been KILLED!
Many critics of Muhammad were in fact, KILLED!
Muh'd violated all the laws of God including the 10 Commandments! He also violated Leviticus 18:15 by marrying his daughter-in-law & marrying a child of 6!
God NEVER said to marry more than ONE wife! Muh'd, David & Solomon were guilty of this
@jefeisdguard 33.21 is a war again a Pagans, they were defending they land.
abraham has two wife hagar & sarah :)
Allah in arabic meaning The only One God and has been used by jewish and christian arabs for more then 2000 years ago :), think again who you just mocking...
My friend, if u like being an ignorant go ahead i wont argue with u any more, but think again if u accuse some people without knowledge and proof you think God will approved??
1st, Q33:21 meant Muhammad was the perfect pattern to follow
2nd, Abraham had 3 wives ONE-AT-A-TIME!
3rd, the etymological meaning of the word "allah" in Aramaic or Hebrew means "to curse" or an "oak tree"
My illucidations to the truth is NOT ignorance, my friend.
I accuse Islam of deception & deceiving all muslims & the world
I accuse you & all muslims of gullibility of being conned by Islams & their mendacious propaganda & spurious indoctrination lessons forced fed to muslims
@jefeisdguard "2ndly, why would anyone want to memorize recitations & pretend they are from God?"
Because the God challenge human kind to find any mistake in it! It claim that if this Quran come other from God for sure you find any mistake! Well there many statement about earth and universe in The Quran, I challenge you find one mistake if you can.
and there are many miracles happen at time of prophet Muhammad just like another prophets before him peace be upon all of them.
1st, every single verse in the quran that is in regards to the earth being FLAT or round; means FLAT! Not one means round!
When Muhammad says he doesnt do miracles, he doesnt! YET(!) ... Islams has Muhammad performing stupid miracles making this a contradiction! The moon splits are 'riles' caused by meteorites, lava flows, etc.
3rd, allah is human b/c LLAH CANT MAKE UP ITS MIND W/ENDLESS ABROGATIONS in the quran!
4th, when did Jesus speak as a baby? Or say the words: allah & muslim?
How am I lying when I state the quran NEVER says the earth is round? You tell me where I am wrong, ok? Madda, Madadnaha, Firasha, Mahdan, Farashnaha, Bisata, Mihada, dahaha, Tahaha & Sutehat. Everyone of them means "flat"!
They are found in the following: Q 27:61, Q 71:19, Q 13:3, Q 15:19, Q 20:5, Q 43:10, Q 80:20, Q 91:5-6 & Q 79:30
In conclusion, the quran ignorantly believes the earth is flat. Even some of ur clerics believed this & their videos were removed from YouTube
@apamello Q 13:3 & he it is who hath outstreched the earth & placed on it the firm mountains Madda Q 15:19 & the earth have we spread out Madadnaha Q 20:53 {since he is the one] who has laid out the earth as a carpet for you Mahdan Q 2:22 Who made the earth a bed for you & heaven a roof Firasha Q 43:10 (yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out Mahdan Q 50:6-7 & the earth we stretched it forth Madadnaha Q 51:48 earth we have spread out Farashnaha
@apamello Q 71:19 & god has laid out the earth for you as a carpet Bisata Q 78:6 have we not made the earth as a bed & mountains as pegs Mihada Q 79:27-30 & the earth ... after that he spread it out... Dahaha Q 88:20 nor even how the earth has been flattened out? Sutehat Q 91:5-6 by the heaven & that which built it & by the earth & that which extended it Tahaha Word "dahaha" comes from "duhiya" derived from "dahawa" doesnt mean egg but area where egg is laid which is flat(ostrichs nest)
@jefeisdguard 71:19 is talking about a passage of road.. which one eassy for you a flat roads or mountain roads?
78:6-6 Modern earth sciences have proven that mountains have deep roots under the surface of the ground :)
79:27-30 talking about heaven, day & night and earth and how they benefit for creations
91:5-6 For sure a scholars of arabic languages never say this please stop being ignorant and reading goofy stuff.. get scholars and learn the truth yourself :)
Q 71:19 isnt a road flat? Be it mountain or flat roads? But it says 'earth is laid out as a carpet'
Q 78:6 earth is a bed not a ball & pegs are NOT roots.
Q 79:27-30 how is 'spreading out' referring to heaven, day, night & creation?
Q 91:5-6 again, the smoking gun here is the word: extended it.
Plz tell me in each of these verses where I should be looking for round earth or a ball. Seems as if all of the verses suggests flatness. Spreading, extending, a bed, flat roads & carpets
@jefeisdguard 71:19 please read the next verse.. the explanation is about the road so creations would be more easy to travel.
78:6 Get get scholars of Arabic language & stop being ignorant :)
79:27-30 The Word"Daha" has several meaning, can be mean to extend or roll,The Arabic word Dahaha means egg shaped. It also means an expanse. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of the earth. :)
In Q 91:5-6 U have cut ur own throat again! How is: "the ground being spread over the lava" construed as round? This proves Islam believes the earth was flat.
In Q 71:19 again the road is flat NOT round, proving Islam believes the earth was flat
In Q 78:6, it is interesting that the actual arabic can NOT be translated accurately in to english
In Q 79:27-30, dahaha comes out meaning the place where an ostrich lays its eggs, which is a flat nest! Doesnt mean the egg itself or shape!
Arabic scholars have given very little to mans progress. All muslims in 3rd & 4th world countries are still living in the stone age & refuse to educate their women. In fact, Islam have destroyed great works of literature, math, science & art in India.
Islam depends on science to give Islam legitimacy. Jesus NEVER spoke of science or mentioned it. Science is a gift 4 man from God. We dont cater to its knowledge b/c God can change science! DO U DOUBT GOD CAN CHANGE 2+ 2 TO = 5?
ONLY God that hears ur prayers is Jesus. Allah cant hear b/c allahs a figment of mans creative imagination borne some 500 BC in India as Brahmi sanskrit. This is why allah has NO image or likeness!
Anyones free to pray anywhere, any position & in any manner they choose.
Just b/c someone chooses to prostrate doesnt make them a muslim!
How criminal, is it to try to own how a man prays!
Man has been praying in a prostrating manner a thousands yrs B4 Islam was founded!
Jesus is a messenger from God, true. But Jesus is also the servant, prophet, Mesisah(the Christ) & GOD! Jesus is 1/3 of the Holy Trinity!
We dont worship any God but Jesus. The reason? IN John 14:6 & Matthew 11:27, the ONLY way to heaven is believing Jesus died for us & also b/c in John 8:24, Jesus says He is the one! If we dont believe in Him then DEATH is our ONLY reward! ONLY Jesus was given a name above all names! NOT allah, NOT any prophet NOBODY but Jesus!
Jesus corroborates the TRINITY in John 14:26, John 16:13-15, Matt 28:19, John 10:30, 1 John 5:7 & even in Isaiah 48:16. Islam chooses to ignore it
Lets say the Holy Spirit is (1), God the Father is (2) & Jesus is (3) & we as people are (4) in this verse below, ok?
26 But the Comforter(1), which is the Holy Ghost(1), whom the Father(2) will send in my(3) name, he(1) shall teach you(4) all things, and bring all things to your(4) remembrance, whatsoever I(3) have said unto you(4)
@jefeisdguard God is not a Creations, He the Creator! Jesus peace be upon him is human being and never claimed he's a god!
For sure you like to attack and provoke errors & hatred in other religion without having knowledge but the same time u cant even deal errors in the bible that people referred today! can you bring the same exact bible which is teaching of prophet Jesus in aramaic 2000 years ago? how many time bible has been revised? can u comfirm which 1 is the truth?
Melchisedek has NO mother NO father, NO beginning NO end the First, the Last the Alpha the Omega!
Where are the "errors, LIES or contradictions" in the words of Jesus?
Jesus was transfigured from spirit to flesh & placed in the womb of the chosen human surrogate Mary by the Holy Spirit. Joseph & Mary are descendants from the tribe of Judah.
Only when Jesus was born did the star of David appear as did the angels
God is not High Priest, He is the Lord of All Universe
The First & The Last is only God never Humans or any creations For sure there is no contradictions in Jesus word but where is the original bible the original teaching in aramaic? Why people keep revised the bible through the history?
God entering human in flesh doesnt make any sense! God is the Greatest!
Jesus was prophesied to be HUMAN in Isaiah 9:6, where is the prophesy of Islam to come? Or allah to come? Or the quran to come? Or the muslims to come? or Muhammad to come? If allah were real, or smart or all-powerful why didnt allah help Islam by prophetically mention or prophetically recognize Islam in the bible & Torah?
Why didnt ur scribes share into the Pentateuch as we did?
Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c he doesnt fit the criteria of Genesis 21:12
So Jesus peace be upon him never said there are another prophet after him?? ok thats up to you, its your bible :)
I tell if you wanna say The Only One God is were real, or smart or all-powerful, u will agree with 100%, bcoz he not like his creation!
I told word "Islam" in arabic is a verb of action meaning a submission, obedience, sincerity to Only one Almighty God. that if you realy submit, surrender your will to God in arabic you can be call a Muslim :)
@jefeisdguard the prophet Muhammad WAS mentioned in the bible by the name Ahmed which is anothe name the prophet was called by but those who change the words of the bible removed it :S so many versions of the bible that they don't match
1st, if the name of the Islamic prophet were mentioned, you would be able to find it easily. If the name were in an apocryphal book then NO bible would carry it. Example? Gospel of Barnabus. In this gospel Jesus calls Muhammad the messiah! Which of course, is NOT true.
2nd, All prophets were Jewish & from the seed of Isaac. God determined all prophets would come from Isaac (Gen 21:12)
Muh'd is NOT a descendant of Isaac but of Ishmaels 2nd born son, Kedar.
All the bibles have the exact same message! Which bibles are different than the other in regards to messages? Ur qurans are different too! Why else would UTHMAN collect & burn all qurans from Syria & Iraq?
If you cant find any "errors, LIES or contradictions" in the words of Jesus then the bible is good. Want to destroy Christianity? Find the errors, lies or contradictions" in Jesus' words.
U cant keep parroting the ignorance of Islam by saying the bibles been revised.
@jefeisdguard Well im just Quoting what the “Bible today” and what the scholars of the bible said.. for sure bible has been revised many time by humans, we muslims believe in the bible and all revelations send by God! But we can only believe and refer in the original!
Again The Quran today is the exact recitations as time of the prophet and never been change :)
If the quran waas the exact same recitation from the time of Muhammad to now, then why did Uthman collect & burn all qurans from Iraq & Syria? If the quran was the same then why did the quran have four codexes?
No. You are delusional. Wishful thinking. Your quran is fabricated & w/o any divine inspiration. Why else would a weak god abrogate so many verses? A strong all-powerful god wouldnt do that & would have forced satan to bow down to Adam. A true God could become human, no problem
@jefeisdguard I told u The Quran is the recitation is not a book!! sound can be burn?? thats very idiot, are u idiot???..recitation can only be memorize or forget..
If God call himself The Most Supreme or the Creator.. why would he become human.. thats not make any sense.. if he want something "he just say it be and it is" so if he want or dont want to forgive human he just order it... need to split into 3?? what is that??
God became human that just a human thinking & dreaming :)
Ok, the quran is a recitation. But it is a [FABRICATED] recitation if you say anything written in it are the words spoken by Moses, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Mary, disciples, prophets or a god named: "allah"
Dont use the quran as proof Abraham, Moses or Jesus talked to or worshipped a god w/o an image! That is stupid on ur part & Islams part!
How would the bible in Genesis claim God(YHWH) created us in His image then Islam claim their god doesnt yet claim their god w/o an image is GOD?
@jefeisdguard its up to u if u want to continue being ignorant.. u cant even accept the Word "Allah" has been used by Jewish & Christian Arabs for more then 2000 years ago for the word "God" & word God only used by English about 500 years ago..
why would you bother asking me about ur religion? are u realy have no knowledge??
Islam teaching God create Prophets Adam with his image but doesnt mean Adam looks like God.. Humans can see but God All seeing.. Humans can hear but God is All Hearing
@apamello Our God w/an Image doesnt say "be"! Again this proves we dont share GODS! Our God made Adam from dust & BREATHED A SOUL INTO HIS NOSTRILS! Gen 2:7 But "allah" cant make up its mind how to create man! “allah” says “be” (Q 3:47) 4 man 2 materialize? Instead of: A) or CLOT of congealed BLOOD," (Q 96:2) B.) or Breathing into sounding CLAY (Q 15:26, 29) C) or DUST (Q 3:59) D) "out of NOTHING?" (Q 19:67) E) "from a SPERM-DROP (Q 16:4) F) “from pair MALE/FEMALE(Q 49:13) I'm confused!
@jefeisdguard Again u keeping quote a "translation of the quran" but u dont even read the whole story or the explanation by a scholar but u do read a translation by some ignorant right??.. and only know how to provoke errors! and pretending you are The Quran or arabic language scholas...
U confius?? ok seem u like to refer a site.. why dont u go to muslim website and learn.. and stop go to ignorant website to learn islam !
Are scholars any different from ur explanations? They can NOT prove the credibility of Muhammads prophethood or why allah doesnt have an image or why the quran is totally fabricated any more than you can! If they could, I would have received a competent rebuttal A YEAR AGO!
I am confused on the myriad ways ur pagan god creates! YHWH creates man in His image/likeness then breathes life & a soul into him. Where does ALLAH breath a soul into man?
@jefeisdguard i'm agree with u, god dont need science... but the book of faith is for mankind, not for god, human need prove that who is the messenger of god... how can someone who cant read and write know the phase of baby in the womb, who know how can the water of the sea is separated, the creation of universe, the structured of the earth 1400 years ago, this came from the all-mighty it self who know the secret between the heaven n the earth,
You keep parroting the bible today & the bible from yesterday!
Plz find me the link to the bible from yesterday! Show me where the original bible looks like! Show me how the overall message has changed so drastically that we cant USE our bibles today!
Give me specifics! Produce the proof! DO NOT JUST PARROT USELESS WORDS!
Am calling ur propagandists LIARS! Am calling ur indoctrination garbage lessons LIARS! Help prove me wrong by showing me the links
@jefeisdguard I telling u im not a expert or a scholars in bible. what i said is what i quote from the scholars of the bible, u may refer to these person Richard Elliott Friedman telling about the old testament(who wrote the bible) & Frederick Fyvie Bruce for the new testament(History of the Bible).
So if you wanna call somebody a liar call them not me ! its your bible you should know the best :)
These people I dont know. Friedman & Bryce. Dr. William Craig debated Hutchinson & defeated him soundly. Dawkins is afraid to debate Dr. Craig. Dr. Norman Geisler was a school chum to Bart Erhamn & has soundly refuted his comments. Dr Geisler sys he has studied all alleged contradictions & errors in the bible & found all alleged errors belong in solely to all detractors; those who severely excoriate the bible ... like the muslims.
@jefeisdguard Well if you dont know, why dont you try to find out, just google "who wrote the bible & History of the bible" and go find your priests and confirm it yourself.. im pretty that u are not even from the mercenery school because seems u know nothing and being so ignorant ... Thats very Sad!
@jefeisdguard you just cant accept the truth about the bible and u just believe what u read & see, but never try to search, explore and learn the truth.. thats just sad.. and u think god will approved.. Man you talking about a God here not a human.. you think he will approved? think!! dont be stupid dont be ignorant ok!
@jefeisdguard i say the bible is corrupted because there r story about homosexuality incest, immoral act by the prophet, Nauzibillah, curse those people who change the scripture by their own hand n say this word came by god,
Ok, lets talk about homosexual acts, incest, etc. Isnt it true these are typical humAN ACTS OF SIN THRU OUT THE WORLD?
So, why hide the truth? How is exposing the truth so corruptible? It is the quran that 'sugarcoats' the truth by hiding it! Inasfar as homosexuality; why R little boys part of ur 'jannat'? Inasfar as incest; why did Muhammad violate Leviticus 18:15 w/his daughter-in-law?
In fact, why did he break all 10 commandments? Covet, kill, lie, steal, fornicator, etc.
@jefeisdguard u bring up the history? look at the crusade war, what did the crussade army do when they take the holy city, palestine, the birth place of jesus... talking to u just like talking to a stone, my last advice, read the bible in its origin language, not in english, but in its origin language...
My friend, what do U think would've happened had the Crusaders NOT been there? Islam would've killed & conquered all Christian nations forcing 2 become muslims as has already happened historically!
The Crusaders rescued many from the potentates the likes of Saddams & Hitlers!
B/c of the violence in tghe qauran, that book s/b banned!
“Islam requires the earth --- not just a portion, but the whole planet”
Book: Jihad in Islam, by: Abul A’la Maududi Page 10
@jefeisdguard Ohh you read the entire article about history crusade and War but you too lazy even to read about the Bibles history... i doubt you dont even know what is prophet Jesus peace be upon him is called in his native language... :(
@apamello Eashoa' means, "the Life-Giver." Msheekha means, "the Anointed One." Eashoa' Msheekha: The Anointed Life-Giver. Jesus is also known as "LORD". Dont ever call allah "LORD" Allah or ur "ISA" have never been crucified! Word “LORD” is etymologically transliterated thru Hebrew tetragrammaton 4 Hebrew name of God translates to: “Behold the hand behold the nail” “LORD” is from the 4 Hebrew letters: Yud – the hand Heh – Behold Vav – The nail Heh – Behold
@jefeisdguard Why you bother reading his book?? r u reading his entire book or just some page talking about war??
The Quran teach "There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." Q 2:256
Of course there is compulsion to violence in the quran! Islam is a religion of violence , death, blood-letting & intolerance. The qurans leaders want to dominate the world by forcing the world to practice Islam by any means, even deadly intimidation tactics!
The quran s/b banned from this earth!
There have been 15,000+ terrorists atrocities since 9/11 caused by mostly Islamic fundamentalists extremists.
@jefeisdguard u bring up the history? look at the crusade war, what did the crussade army do when they take the holy city, palestine, the birth place of jesus... talking to u just like talking to a stone, my last advice, read the bible in its origin language, not in english, but in its origin language...
@jefeisdguard i got an advice for, i am not forcing u to believe my word, maybe u should learn the origin language of the bible, understand the word from the origin language of the bible... did u know what language is it?
The origin of the original bible is simple & doesnt involve Islam whatsoever.
The bible God: YHWH never favored Ishmael but Isaac He did.
God Gave ONLY Isaac: a 2nd covenant, called his seed, promised him to Sarah & Abraham, called him Abrahams ONLY son & blessed ONLY him after the funeral of Abraham even w/Ishmael present!
All prophets will come after Abraham but ONLY thru the seed of Isaac as God states emphatically in Genesis 21:12.
If U believe God can change (2+2=5) why believe in science? Where're the human interest miracles as in the bible? Where're the healings, exorcisms, bringing dead people back to life, etc in the quran?
These are the true miracles not the alleged 'science' miracles muslims tout as miracles!
Why did muslims create fake miracles to Muhammad, now regarded as 'contradictions' when Muhammad clearly stated he doesnt do miracles?
The split in the moon are "riles": science NOT superstitions
@jefeisdguard in islam we have both science in miracle, ofc we cant explain the miracle thing such jesus (pbuh) rising the dead by the help of al-mighty, the spilting sea by the staff of moses by the help of the al-mighty, steel bending by david, it is beyond human capability...
We dont care about the miracles of science. They mean nothing to God except that God has given us the intellect by which to explore ideas. The science & physics ends when we are trying to understand the science in a black hole. All of Einsteins theories go out the window when discussing the "singular" or "event horizon". E =MC2 doesnt work & quantum mechanics are used to explain things.
YHWH created all (Col 1:15-16) Allah is NOT our God b/c allah has NO image to have created us from
@jefeisdguard YHWH is Jesus? God is Crossed? God became Creations?? Thats nonsense!
God could never put himself into that low of becoming his creations! He is The Most Greatest! how come u could said such of thing...
For sure God teach science so that Humans will think and seek the truth about him thats he (God) is The Creator, The Eternal, The One who provide, sustain the entire Universe.
@jefeisdguard Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds - darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.
@seyriona Islam has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt JESUS IS GOD! Only God can have the following attributes! Islam STOLE them & gave them to a pagan god! How utterly ridiculous to call allah "truth"! Thats blasphemy! Al Haq = the TRUTH = John 14:6 Al Baeth = the RESURRECTION = John 11:25-26 Al Awal = the FIRST = Isa 41:4 Al Akher = the LAST = Rev 22:13,16 Al Malek = KING OF KINGS = Rev 17:14 Al Hadi = the GUIDE = John 10:9 Al Nur =the LIGHT = John 8:12
Al Baeth is referring to Jesus as our "LORD" whose etymologically transliterated thru Hebrew tetragrammaton meaning means: "Behold the hand, behold the nail"
Only Jesus was crucified & resurrected as Jesus did indeed prophesy His own crucifixion in Matt 20:18-19 & Matt 26:2
Only Jesus is gthe absolute "TRUTH"! Does Jesus LIE when He proclaims Himself to be "TRUTH"? Islam thinks so & is why Islams [FABRICATED] quran created Sura 4:157 calling Jesus a liar in lieu of His crucifixion
@jefeisdguard Funny that God crucified himself... thats realy humanlike... well Al Baith is arabic means The Resurrector, He God is the only one resurrect everythings thats die.
If muslims believe we are polytheists; then how could Jesus crucify Himself?
Is Jesus stupid enough to talk to Himself or give birth to Himself?
Man, crucified Jesus. If Jesus had showed the power He had, who would have crucified Him? If Jesus was NOT crucified, then how awful how UNtrue how deceptive would the biblical prophesies be? This is why Islams Sura 4:157 is a LIE & the words of Jesus
this man is a lair saying you dnt hv to give 2 th poor wen u bcum a Christian actually u r commanded 2 do so..he lyd all thru it ,Christian hv more proof thn Islam infact Christianity is a confirmation of wat was told in d old testament many professionals trying 2 understand th annunaki n Sumerians use th bible nt koran go figure
ushigirl 3 days ago
@ushigirl Dear friend, Please watch Qur'an and bible in the light of science (debate between Dr Zakir Naik and Dr William Cambell). There are more videos from brother yusuf estes when he explained regarding the discrepancies found in the bible. Peace. Take care my friend.
shafiqpeer 2 days ago
@shafiqpeer watch this"8 minutes that will make you leave Islam"
ushigirl 1 day ago
@ushigirl Dear this cannot be ascribed to Islam. Islam has laid a foundation for the slave's liberation. Although when slavery was not completely eliminated Islam protected them. E.g Muhammad said: Your slaves are your brothers... So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them (Bukhari). I would recommend you to read exodus 21. Tak care
shafiqpeer 1 day ago
Yusuf Estes is my favourite living Muslim
YoUrInBaTcOuNtRyNoW6 4 days ago
Brother Yusuf go forward, allah bless you. I love you in the sake of allah.
abuhsm 5 days ago
türkçe alt yazı istiyorum
staloy25 6 days ago
la elaha ella alla لا الاه الا الله
corvey86 2 weeks ago
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If Yusuf Estes was really a former bible-thumping preacher then he'd have all scriptures opened up to him.
Seems Yusuf was a NON-believer from the very beginning!
Jesus deliberately CLOSED THE EYES & EARS to all NON-believers, scripturally
Mark 4:11 Unto u its given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are w/o, all these things R done in parables:
12That seeing they may see, & not perceive; & hearing they may hear, & not understand; lest at any time they s/b converted
jefeisdguard 2 weeks ago
How can one God be three persons?
moutez26 3 weeks ago
@moutez26 Its 100% easier to prove Jesus is God than Muhammad to be a prophet!
Who can Prove Muhammad to be a prophet, biblically?
He failed the criteria for prophethood in Genesis 21:12!
jefeisdguard 3 weeks ago
Jesus is not god
moutez26 3 weeks ago
islam dont teach people to be bad, the people who actually turn bad as i, u and we do..
skaaarghh 1 month ago
marissa u r stupid person
louay1982 1 month ago
Islam is the religion of peace!
MangoMadness1966 1 month ago
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@MangoMadness1966
My friend, why are you lying?
If you are NOT lying & truly believe Islam is the religion of peace then sad to say you are ignorant of Islams truths.
Islam, founded 1,400 yrs ago has reinvented the bible now called the quran, hence the quran has been entirely fabricated.
I can prove Muhammad is NOT a prophet by the bible & quran.
We dont share Gods b/c ours says he created us from His own image/likeness & all muslims admit/confess allah has NO image.
Like to talk?
jefeisdguard 1 month ago
islam is bad religion, all muslim is bad f.y.
marissayangka 1 month ago
@marissayangka look whose talking...... first gain knowledge then come to speak!!! :P
sami26031998 1 month ago
fuck you islam...muslim is bad religion
marissayangka 1 month ago
@marissayangka How could Muslim be a bad religion while Islam is the religion? You spoke of hatred that got you tingled. lol.
DarkestSide1000 1 month ago
@marissayangka the bad religion is that who taught you to say that
and taught you to not respecting the religions.
silent1death1 1 month ago
@marissayangka Just open your mind and listen to him!..you listen to your teachers in school,college and university right,do the same here and just listen..using bad words against us won't harm us anyway my friend!
Bufurzone 1 month ago
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@Bufurzone
He(Yusuf Estes) never really understood Jesus. If he had, scriptures would have opened up to him as Jesus said in Mark 4:11-12 & Matt 13:10-17
Islam doesnt offer Jesus as its solution for mans salvation but instead offers a god named, allah. As a figment of mans imagination created from Brahmi sanskrit 500 BC it is NO surprise to find allah has NO image, right? That is why we dont share GODS! Our YHWH-Elohim, our creator who also 4gave our sins(Matt 9:6), created us (Gen 1:26-27)
jefeisdguard 1 month ago
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The things he cites (unmixed Mediterranean and Atlantic, the orbit of the earth etc.), all represent natural facts. Angels and demons can communicate them to human beings. It does not prove the Koran is from God, only that it contains knowledge above what human beings know. Christianity, on the other hand, possesses many strict miracles. beginning with Christ's resurrection, down to our day, at Lourdes and elsewhere, where cures that proclaim the truth of Christ defy scientific explanation.
99bbruce 1 month ago in playlist Islam explains
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Mark 1:13 and he was in the desert forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.
jesus being tempted, ofc, he is a prophet, a man. why?
James 1:13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone
seyriona 1 month ago
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@seyriona
James 1:13 says GOD canNOT be tempted by "evil". So, was the devil (a representation of evil) successful? yes/no?
The prophesies of Jesus in the OT & NT called Jesus; GOD! Isa 9:6 & Matt 1:23
Allah is NOT God, not ours anyways b/c allah has NO image. Allah has NO power to become human, No power to force satan to bow down to Adam & No power to 4tell the future in the countless abrogations in the quran!
Proof of Trinity is verse U sited in Matt 27:46. Uv failed to comprehend that verse
jefeisdguard 1 month ago
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christian say that jesus is god but mathew 27:46
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Jesus (pbuh) not god,FACT
how can a god, in your belive in trinity, leaving him, which is himself
seyriona 1 month ago
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x1wolfksa1x 1 month ago
Yusuf Estes is a liar. He is an atheistic Western clergies who converted to I$lam in order to swindle the desperate Muslims!!!
NurelMasihBenHaq 1 month ago
@NurelMasihBenHaq
u think so :\
x1wolfksa1x 1 month ago
I love you yusuf estes ! Your my ideal person
MsPrincewilly 1 month ago
@kamikazee593
YES! You read the books that made you become an atheist. It saddens me that you don't have anymore faith in your heart anymore :(
Maybe you simply got LOST along the way while reading those books?
Islam isn't just "go pray" or "go read the Quran" my brother. It's more than that.When I was a kid all what religion was to me was a package of stuff to do. But it turns out that these "stuff to do" had something I didn't understand back then. It's the treasure that you gave up on.
moeitanism 1 month ago 13
Properly read, the Bible and Quran are the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived. Read them with an open mind and try to discern them from a fairy tale. Children are all born atheists, and their beautiful innocence is the essence of life and humanity. Religious indoctrination is present everywhere, but in the end science is based on factual observation. Religion is the denial of observation so that faith can be preserved. Please stop basing your lives on 1 book from the past. Use Google.
kamikazee593 1 month ago
@kamikazee593 the past who made the Future...
I think that you don't believe only what you see and what you touch by yourself, right ? do you believe that inside you there is something called spirit ? have you ever touch it?
zaatot1978 1 month ago
@zaatot1978 I don't really understand what you're saying, but no I don't believe in a spirit, I think we're an animal just like all the others, and to think you're special is delusional, because humans will not accept the end of their existence. They invent gods and an afterlife. I used to be a Muslim and turned atheist. Do you know why? Because I read books, and got educated. You should do the same.
kamikazee593 1 month ago
@kamikazee593 we are not animals, Animals are living just for living...without any purpose. And human have dreams, purpose of life...
so from your point of view, why we are created or why we came to life since we we will die ?
zaatot1978 1 month ago
ALLAH is god. And the only god there ever will be.
abraham14aly 1 month ago
Jesus is not god. He never clamied he was.
abraham14aly 1 month ago 10
i love it, enlightnment speech for everyone
komarudinify 2 months ago
Please DON'T add external voices
It is very anoying
tomahah 2 months ago 2
hmmm....i wonder which of the two looks and resembles Jesus....i thought so man christians are so dumb and blind haaaahahaha.......
ExtremeEnergyForce 2 months ago
You are funny, did you know that 90% of bible is false, in other words it's been written by priests, that's enough for me. A book of god or a book by mere humans? Not hard to choose brother. And after 1400 years you have not revealed a single proof nor miracle. Quran is a divine book, 1400 years old and contains stuff that we just knew less than 200 years. Thts all you need to convert.
DuBeIssI 2 months ago
I would certainly like to have a heart-to-heart conversation with Yusuf Estes.
I could prove that alll things Islam doesnt & prove all that Islam isnt!
Islam doesnt believe:
1) Jesus is God. Jesus was everything: a prophet, servant, Messiah etc.
2) The Trinity exists. Jesus proves it, Himself!
3) Jesus was crucified. Islam believes Jesus will come again to die, get married, destroy the cross & pig eaters! Get married?
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard why we said the bible is corrupted is because the concept of god, actually jesus nvr in his life said im god, worship me, the bible said that i am the son of the god doesnt mean that god actually have a son, cause in the bible itself never mention the concept of trinity... in the quran, we made it clear that this came by the All-mighty cause there are a lot of science ex, the human being in the mother womb, 1400 yrs ago, it is now be scientifically proven by the tecnology nowday
seyriona 3 months ago
@seyriona
1st, Jesus DID say He is God & to worship me
2nd, U assume God procreated to have a 'son' & there4 it is U & Islam that have denigrated the word 2B referenced to SEX!
3rd, quran is fabricated & can NOT be trusted for credibility. PROVE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN IT IS TRUE!
4th, science is Gods gift to man. Jesus NEVER mentioned the word b/c science means NOTHING to God.
God can do the impossible even change 2+2 to = 5! Do U doubt this?
5th, Where are the HUMAN miracles in the quran?
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard who know that how the baby is form precisely 1400 years ago, we never change the essence of the surah, the concept of god, that u cant understand cause u r not muslim, as i said before u can said evverything want n im just a reminder... the probleme with u is that u don really understand the word son of god in the bible... dont mind about me, just study about your history of bible, pls, dont talk so much the thing that u dont know.... last word fr me :D
seyriona 3 months ago
@seyriona
I dont have to be a muslim to know what the truth is. It is getting tiresome for muslims to say I should learn arabic for a better understanding of Islam. It is disturbing. Why is it that in Sura 4:119; satan = allah? But ONLY in the arabic version? In the translated english version this is "allah"!
Gods word R final & U dont follow them! IN Genesis, God favors ONLY Isaac! He blessed Isaac & ONLY Isaac after the funeral of Abraham. Gen 25:11. What does that tell you?
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard :DD, did u believe that jesus is god because he is a messenger w/o father? is hte word 'son' really refer to begotten son? im just curious XD
seyriona 3 months ago
@seyriona
No. I believe that Jesus is GOD b/c Jesus said so Himself. Jesus was nearly stoned to death for implying it & NEVER denying it. B/c Jesus is the high priest Melchisedek, who has NO mother NO father NO beginning NO end is the FIRST the LAST the ALPHA the OMEGA!
Only GOD the Father calls Jesus "BELOVED"! The word "son" is a term of endearment & LOVE! Do you call your step-child son or step child? Do you call a child you like "son" or "hey you"? This word is meant as sexual by muslims
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard give the quote from the bible that he said directly, i am god so worship me pls
seyriona 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard n u said he is the son of god???
seyriona 3 months ago
@seyriona
Jesus is the Son of man, Son of God, prophet, servant, messiah & GOD!
Jesus is "truth" (John 14:6)
What prophet ever called himself truth?
What prophet has ever said: "in my name..."?
What prophet was ever threatened to be KILLED b/c He insinuated or implied He was GOD; like Jesus?
NONE!
Thats b/c Jesus spoke for GOD! John 12:49-50) & Jesus & God are ONE! (John 10:30)
Jesus is GOOD! There4 Jesus is GOD! Jesus was indeed crucified as prophesied making the quran WRONG!
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@seyriona
“I am … Christ, son of the blessed!”( Mark 14:61-62)
“I am not come to destroy but fulfill” (Matt 5:17)
“I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners” (Matt 9:13)
“I am come to send peace on earth” (Matt 10:34-35)
“I will give you rest” (Matt 11:28-30)
“I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matt 15:24)
“I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee” (Matt 26:32)
“I am with you always, even unto the end of the world” (Matt 28:20)
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
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jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@seyriona
John 12:49 -50For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@seyriona Jesus & God the Father are close (John 8:29)(John 8:16)(John 16:32)
They share even their names! (John 17:11)
The only impossible thing God canNOT do is LIE! (Heb 6:18)
Is Jesus narcissistic or speaks vainly when He proclaims so many “I am’s”, “I’s” or “In my name …” in the bible, namely the NewTestament?
Referring to Himself? No. Why? B/c, it is also God the father saying all these “I am’s”!(John 12:49)(John 7:16-18) John 8:38
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard u said 'Only GOD the Father calls Jesus "BELOVED"! The word "son" is a term of endearment & LOVE!', so where did u get the idea that jesus is the son of god? can god be tempted? should god asking fo help from the other,''John 12:49 -50For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.'' he said this because he is a prophete, a human, not god. god dont need a command to do something :)
seyriona 3 months ago
@seyriona
You speak w/o thinking. You speak human thoughts then you reply w/human thoughts & human reasoning. You are NOT thinking the thought s of God b/c God doesnt think the way we do; which is perverted thoughts defiled thoughts
Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD
Jesus is God b/c Jesus did NOT get tempted via James 1:13
1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@seyriona
Matthew 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@seyriona
Now in regards to allah = satan from Sura 4:119 but ONLY in arabic is best explained in the following link:
watch?v=cJ2yePoV3_s
Islam - Quran Allah Satan are One.
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
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seyriona 3 months ago
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@jefeisdguard fyi, the surah 4:119 is story where, the word said by the devil to god , u dont know anything but u speak so much, u should read the ayah before 119 n im not arab =)
seyriona 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard o.O? satan = allah? i think the verse is pretty straightforward and its pretty impossible to come to that conclusion unless you yourself want to distort your understanding of the verse to feed your believe, which is dishonest i think. And then to write the your distorted version here is irresponsible. Or maybe you didn't actually read the quran translation, just copy paste from other anti islam website.
boseiyong 3 months ago
@boseiyong
Notice ---Allah--- refers to himself as "Khayrul-Makereen" which correctly translated means "Allah is the greatest of all deceivers." This is verified by looking up the root letters (Meem, Kaaf, and Rah) in an Arabic Dictionary such as Al-Mawrid:
---Surah 3:54---
One of allahs 99 attributes mirrors that of Satan.
Al-Mutakabbir = The Greatest = The Proud One = is also Satans attribute
Deceive = lie = doctrine of lying = Al Tekayya = Islam
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jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@boseiyong
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Rev 12:9
ISAIAH 14 has the Proud 5 “I's” of Satan. Very Proud One.
Satan deceived EVE, us & tried w/Jesus
Deceiver from the beginning
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver & an antichrist."
2 John 1:7
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jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@boseiyong
Cant you read what I said? Sura 4:119 ONLY IN ARABIC does it say Allah = satan.
It is interesting that even muslims say the meanings of countless quranic verses from Arabic to English are NOT always translated 100%! I have even heard that many verses besmirch NON-muslims!
There4 the deceit of Islam begins in the Qurans translations; but not just in English but in all languages!
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard dude, where that come from? allah= satan in arabic in the verse? that doesnt make sense lol. did u even speak arabic? know arabic? Or you just have mawrid dictionary? Or you just distort evrything according to your view. i've heard many wrong claims about quran, some need academic response, but yours is the weirdest one. Of course there's lost of meaning in translation, not just quran, happen to any language. Thats why i think its silly to think bible in eng is the word of god.
boseiyong 3 months ago
@seyriona
Why would Jesus say what YOU & Islam says?
Why would any true GOD say the very exact same words humans put to it?
Why are YOU parroting stupidity?
Jesus calls Himself GOD & says ONLY He s/b worshipped in Matt 4:7 & 10 & also in Luke 4:8 & 12
There is NO else but Jesus & the devil. You figure it out.
jefeisdguard 3 months ago
@jefeisdguard did you know that muslims never offend jesus?while western chrisians always oddend every thing related to islam even god himself?that's because jesus is a prophet we must believe in that's what the quran says .But the principle rule in the way of the god is to worship and obey him not to do so to any other being,oh yes that include his prophets.so we learn from prophet muhammed and prophet jesus and all others but we only acknowledge Allah as a god.
adat1988 2 months ago
@adat1988
You say "we must believe what quran says"? How can any intelligent person do so knowing that NOTHING in the quran can be corroborated via an outside source including the bible?
2nd, IF Muh'd is a prophet, THEN PROVE IT! Jesus is a prophet, Messiah, Christ, servant & GOD.
3rd, tell me; why should I believe in ur god, allah? How is ur god my God when ur god doesnt fit the criteria of having an image as mine does in Gen 1:26-27 & Gen 9:6?
U still believe in ur god that has NO image?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard 1st corroboration with quraan depends on what version of the bible you have...actually there is only one quraan?
2nd depending on intelligence :is jesus the god to you or son of the god?and if the son of the god who is the father god?and does your saying about muhammed mean that you don't believe in any other prophets beside jesus?
3rd It's because he don't have an image i believe in him?that's is my friend can believe or can you not?
adat1988 2 months ago
@adat1988 i forgot i wanted to ask you something ....imagine with me..just cope with it....if you wake up someday and it was the end of days ,and the christ descended from the heaven and all people knew him, and then he entered a mosque ,prayed with the muslims but as a muslim not a leader so as not to be the last prophet,and then crushed the cross in front of the world?can you honestly tell me what will you do then if that happened ??suppose it happened
adat1988 2 months ago
@adat1988
1st, if Jesus came at the end of days & crushed the cross; then the whole bible would be a lie & Islam would prevail. This is why Islam is the exact opposite of the bible. Evil
2nd, there were 4 codexes NOT one as U assume
3rd, Jesus is both; son of God & God ... 1/3 the Trinity
4th, Jesus HAS THE IMAGE OF GOD THE FATHER! Read; 2 Cor 4:4 & 6, Col 1:15, Hebrews 1:1-3, John 14:8-9 (He that hath seen me seen the Father), Gen 1:26-27 & Gen 9:6
Allah is fake. Allah has NO image.
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard i would like to see where did that 4 codexes come from...there is only 1 quraan and many attempts by the jews to twist and mislead its meaning but ALWAYS eradicated..
You still didn't answer my question...what will you do then after discovering that the bible was a lie and jesus is muslim,supposing that it happened ?
adat1988 2 months ago
@adat1988
When muslims assume there was ONE quran, I have to laugh to myself at their ignorance or their ardent efforts to lie. These are the following codexes:1) Hasfah codex 2) Abdullah Ibn Masud codex 3) Ibn Ka'ab codex & of course the codex Uthman backed was that from Zaid Ibn Thabit
Uthman collected & burnt all qurans from Syria to Iraq. Meaning the qurans were different! If they were all the same why BURN them? More than 1,700 variants attributed to Ibn Masud alone
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard that's why its very difficult to get it to non arabic folks like you...now i'm the one laughing..the 4 codexes my friend are all one version ...in the arabic language you can pronounce one word with more than one method to give THE SAME MEANING..not a word have been changed..and the 4 codexes still present they are not different versions.oh and uthman burned down 1700 twisted versions made to be sold and make easy money like you say it.probably by the jews of that era
adat1988 2 months ago
@adat1988
You just shot yourself in the foot.
1st, you say all codex versions are the same ... "the 4 codexes still present they are not different versions"
2nd, then you say: "Uthman burned down 1,700 twisted versions ... probably by the jews of that era"
Meaning there were DIFFERENT QURANS! Why are YOU blaming the Jews? The deception from you is running ever deeper & the stink is getting unbearable.
How can a word NOT be changed if U admit there were 'twisted' versions?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@adat1988
Uthman BURNED all qurans b/c they were NOT exactly the same as Zaids codex. Here is an example of someone playing politics after Muhammads death. Muhammad never favored Zaid. In fact, Abdullah Ibn Masud & Ibn Ka'ab were his most favorite reciters!
Their codexes were already dispersed in Iraq & Syria!
The ONLY reason anyone would BURN a book is b/c of the 'changes' from those copies to the ones intended for all to use!
Islam lies when they say the quran was always the same.
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard first of all please note that "Islam" in arabic is mean a submission to Almighty God.
Secondly Al-Quran doesnt mean book! in arabic Al-Quran is mean The Recitation, and at the time of the Prophet Al-Quran is memorize by his companions and past down generation upon generation! and those recitations is still preserved until today.
And there milions of people from different nations who has memorized this great recitations! even though they are not arabs.
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
My friend, since when did Muhammad ever begin using his religion as 'submitting oneself to any god'?
Read your history & U will learn the 1st meaning of this word was in regards to jihad; war!
The word was designed to convey the message to Muh'ds enemies to concede, give up, surrender or SUBMIT ... or else!
2ndly, why would anyone want to memorize recitations & pretend they are from God?
Our God always spoke for the prophets directly NEVER thru angels!
Paul was right! Gal 1:8-9
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard My friend, Muhammad never claimed islam is his religion, infact there are some jews and christian at his time come and say to him “ we are also a muslim” muslim means someone who practice islam.
History?? u sure? why dont yourself find any historical and language scholars or any arabs and listen the truth yourself eh? Please listen “Islam” in arabic language is also verb of action it does not just a use for genereal term of announce as religion.
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
All terrorists 'patterned' themselves after Muhammad (Q 33:21) This is true Islam, Muhammads Islam .... your Islam! Muhammad intimidated many to become muslims or else they would have been KILLED!
Many critics of Muhammad were in fact, KILLED!
Muh'd violated all the laws of God including the 10 Commandments! He also violated Leviticus 18:15 by marrying his daughter-in-law & marrying a child of 6!
God NEVER said to marry more than ONE wife! Muh'd, David & Solomon were guilty of this
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard 33.21 is a war again a Pagans, they were defending they land.
abraham has two wife hagar & sarah :)
Allah in arabic meaning The only One God and has been used by jewish and christian arabs for more then 2000 years ago :), think again who you just mocking...
My friend, if u like being an ignorant go ahead i wont argue with u any more, but think again if u accuse some people without knowledge and proof you think God will approved??
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
1st, Q33:21 meant Muhammad was the perfect pattern to follow
2nd, Abraham had 3 wives ONE-AT-A-TIME!
3rd, the etymological meaning of the word "allah" in Aramaic or Hebrew means "to curse" or an "oak tree"
My illucidations to the truth is NOT ignorance, my friend.
I accuse Islam of deception & deceiving all muslims & the world
I accuse you & all muslims of gullibility of being conned by Islams & their mendacious propaganda & spurious indoctrination lessons forced fed to muslims
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard "2ndly, why would anyone want to memorize recitations & pretend they are from God?"
Because the God challenge human kind to find any mistake in it! It claim that if this Quran come other from God for sure you find any mistake! Well there many statement about earth and universe in The Quran, I challenge you find one mistake if you can.
and there are many miracles happen at time of prophet Muhammad just like another prophets before him peace be upon all of them.
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
1st, every single verse in the quran that is in regards to the earth being FLAT or round; means FLAT! Not one means round!
When Muhammad says he doesnt do miracles, he doesnt! YET(!) ... Islams has Muhammad performing stupid miracles making this a contradiction! The moon splits are 'riles' caused by meteorites, lava flows, etc.
3rd, allah is human b/c LLAH CANT MAKE UP ITS MIND W/ENDLESS ABROGATIONS in the quran!
4th, when did Jesus speak as a baby? Or say the words: allah & muslim?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard for sure u either lying to yourself or people around even in this video has the proof The Quran saying earth is turning! :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
How am I lying when I state the quran NEVER says the earth is round? You tell me where I am wrong, ok? Madda, Madadnaha, Firasha, Mahdan, Farashnaha, Bisata, Mihada, dahaha, Tahaha & Sutehat. Everyone of them means "flat"!
They are found in the following: Q 27:61, Q 71:19, Q 13:3, Q 15:19, Q 20:5, Q 43:10, Q 80:20, Q 91:5-6 & Q 79:30
In conclusion, the quran ignorantly believes the earth is flat. Even some of ur clerics believed this & their videos were removed from YouTube
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
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jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard 71:19 is talking about a passage of road.. which one eassy for you a flat roads or mountain roads?
78:6-6 Modern earth sciences have proven that mountains have deep roots under the surface of the ground :)
79:27-30 talking about heaven, day & night and earth and how they benefit for creations
91:5-6 For sure a scholars of arabic languages never say this please stop being ignorant and reading goofy stuff.. get scholars and learn the truth yourself :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Q 71:19 isnt a road flat? Be it mountain or flat roads? But it says 'earth is laid out as a carpet'
Q 78:6 earth is a bed not a ball & pegs are NOT roots.
Q 79:27-30 how is 'spreading out' referring to heaven, day, night & creation?
Q 91:5-6 again, the smoking gun here is the word: extended it.
Plz tell me in each of these verses where I should be looking for round earth or a ball. Seems as if all of the verses suggests flatness. Spreading, extending, a bed, flat roads & carpets
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard 71:19 please read the next verse.. the explanation is about the road so creations would be more easy to travel.
78:6 Get get scholars of Arabic language & stop being ignorant :)
79:27-30 The Word"Daha" has several meaning, can be mean to extend or roll,The Arabic word Dahaha means egg shaped. It also means an expanse. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of the earth. :)
apamello 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard 91:5-6 The earth (ground) being spread over the lava so we can travel over it without being harmed. another fact! :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
In Q 91:5-6 U have cut ur own throat again! How is: "the ground being spread over the lava" construed as round? This proves Islam believes the earth was flat.
In Q 71:19 again the road is flat NOT round, proving Islam believes the earth was flat
In Q 78:6, it is interesting that the actual arabic can NOT be translated accurately in to english
In Q 79:27-30, dahaha comes out meaning the place where an ostrich lays its eggs, which is a flat nest! Doesnt mean the egg itself or shape!
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard “The verse never wrong” unless people misunderstand the meaning and make up something new, yep like the ignorant just like you.
The Sine formula of Spherical trigonometry is found by a “Muslim Scholar” at early 9th century. FACTS!
World round Globe found in University of Al Azhar about 1000 years ago FACTS! These are Scholars!
Its a English which need a several word to translate the arabic in The Quran :)
You are not a Scholars of Arabic language so please stop pretend to be one
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Arabic scholars have given very little to mans progress. All muslims in 3rd & 4th world countries are still living in the stone age & refuse to educate their women. In fact, Islam have destroyed great works of literature, math, science & art in India.
Islam depends on science to give Islam legitimacy. Jesus NEVER spoke of science or mentioned it. Science is a gift 4 man from God. We dont cater to its knowledge b/c God can change science! DO U DOUBT GOD CAN CHANGE 2+ 2 TO = 5?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Well in islam every creation are free any time to talk/pray with God because he always all hearing and all knowing :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
ONLY God that hears ur prayers is Jesus. Allah cant hear b/c allahs a figment of mans creative imagination borne some 500 BC in India as Brahmi sanskrit. This is why allah has NO image or likeness!
Anyones free to pray anywhere, any position & in any manner they choose.
Just b/c someone chooses to prostrate doesnt make them a muslim!
How criminal, is it to try to own how a man prays!
Man has been praying in a prostrating manner a thousands yrs B4 Islam was founded!
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Jesus peace be upon is one of the messenger of God in islam and he said " Your God and My God is One Lord" :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Jesus is a messenger from God, true. But Jesus is also the servant, prophet, Mesisah(the Christ) & GOD! Jesus is 1/3 of the Holy Trinity!
We dont worship any God but Jesus. The reason? IN John 14:6 & Matthew 11:27, the ONLY way to heaven is believing Jesus died for us & also b/c in John 8:24, Jesus says He is the one! If we dont believe in Him then DEATH is our ONLY reward! ONLY Jesus was given a name above all names! NOT allah, NOT any prophet NOBODY but Jesus!
He is GOD!
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard How u explain God is Trinity?? it doesnt make any sense, God is not a creations! Jesus never said he is god :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Jesus corroborates the TRINITY in John 14:26, John 16:13-15, Matt 28:19, John 10:30, 1 John 5:7 & even in Isaiah 48:16. Islam chooses to ignore it
Lets say the Holy Spirit is (1), God the Father is (2) & Jesus is (3) & we as people are (4) in this verse below, ok?
26 But the Comforter(1), which is the Holy Ghost(1), whom the Father(2) will send in my(3) name, he(1) shall teach you(4) all things, and bring all things to your(4) remembrance, whatsoever I(3) have said unto you(4)
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard God is not a Creations, He the Creator! Jesus peace be upon him is human being and never claimed he's a god!
For sure you like to attack and provoke errors & hatred in other religion without having knowledge but the same time u cant even deal errors in the bible that people referred today! can you bring the same exact bible which is teaching of prophet Jesus in aramaic 2000 years ago? how many time bible has been revised? can u comfirm which 1 is the truth?
So Stop Being Ignorant!
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Who created Jesus? NO ONE!
Jesus is Melchisedek, the high priest!
Melchisedek has NO mother NO father, NO beginning NO end the First, the Last the Alpha the Omega!
Where are the "errors, LIES or contradictions" in the words of Jesus?
Jesus was transfigured from spirit to flesh & placed in the womb of the chosen human surrogate Mary by the Holy Spirit. Joseph & Mary are descendants from the tribe of Judah.
Only when Jesus was born did the star of David appear as did the angels
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard esus is human, Human is God Creations
God is not High Priest, He is the Lord of All Universe
The First & The Last is only God never Humans or any creations For sure there is no contradictions in Jesus word but where is the original bible the original teaching in aramaic? Why people keep revised the bible through the history?
God entering human in flesh doesnt make any sense! God is the Greatest!
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Jesus was prophesied to be HUMAN in Isaiah 9:6, where is the prophesy of Islam to come? Or allah to come? Or the quran to come? Or the muslims to come? or Muhammad to come? If allah were real, or smart or all-powerful why didnt allah help Islam by prophetically mention or prophetically recognize Islam in the bible & Torah?
Why didnt ur scribes share into the Pentateuch as we did?
Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c he doesnt fit the criteria of Genesis 21:12
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
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So Jesus peace be upon him never said there are another prophet after him?? ok thats up to you, its your bible :)
I tell if you wanna say The Only One God is were real, or smart or all-powerful, u will agree with 100%, bcoz he not like his creation!
I told word "Islam" in arabic is a verb of action meaning a submission, obedience, sincerity to Only one Almighty God. that if you realy submit, surrender your will to God in arabic you can be call a Muslim :)
apamello 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard the prophet Muhammad WAS mentioned in the bible by the name Ahmed which is anothe name the prophet was called by but those who change the words of the bible removed it :S so many versions of the bible that they don't match
lilihbk19 2 months ago
@lilihbk19
1st, if the name of the Islamic prophet were mentioned, you would be able to find it easily. If the name were in an apocryphal book then NO bible would carry it. Example? Gospel of Barnabus. In this gospel Jesus calls Muhammad the messiah! Which of course, is NOT true.
2nd, All prophets were Jewish & from the seed of Isaac. God determined all prophets would come from Isaac (Gen 21:12)
Muh'd is NOT a descendant of Isaac but of Ishmaels 2nd born son, Kedar.
There4 NOT a prophet
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@apamello
All the bibles have the exact same message! Which bibles are different than the other in regards to messages? Ur qurans are different too! Why else would UTHMAN collect & burn all qurans from Syria & Iraq?
If you cant find any "errors, LIES or contradictions" in the words of Jesus then the bible is good. Want to destroy Christianity? Find the errors, lies or contradictions" in Jesus' words.
U cant keep parroting the ignorance of Islam by saying the bibles been revised.
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Well im just Quoting what the “Bible today” and what the scholars of the bible said.. for sure bible has been revised many time by humans, we muslims believe in the bible and all revelations send by God! But we can only believe and refer in the original!
Again The Quran today is the exact recitations as time of the prophet and never been change :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
The quran has had 4 codexes & all qurans in rtaq & Syria were collected & burned; so how could the quran be the same today?
How could Muhammad be a prophet if the bible & even the quran doesnt prove it?
How can allah be a god if it has NO true name like "YHWH", & no image like ours?
How can ur quran not be considered [FABRICATED] knowing nothing in it can be proved true by an outside source?
Even all NON-fiction books have 'footnotes'! Where are the qurans 'footnotes'?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard The Quran today is the exact recitation at the time of prophet so its never changed :)
Muhammad Peace be upon him showing some miracle just like other Messenger before him :)
"Allah" in arabic language meaning "The Only One God" is used by Arabs Jew, Christian and Islam :)
Many scientific facts in The Quran only found 500 years ago :)
Because The Quran in arabic doesnt mean book its mean The Recitation :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
If the quran waas the exact same recitation from the time of Muhammad to now, then why did Uthman collect & burn all qurans from Iraq & Syria? If the quran was the same then why did the quran have four codexes?
No. You are delusional. Wishful thinking. Your quran is fabricated & w/o any divine inspiration. Why else would a weak god abrogate so many verses? A strong all-powerful god wouldnt do that & would have forced satan to bow down to Adam. A true God could become human, no problem
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard I told u The Quran is the recitation is not a book!! sound can be burn?? thats very idiot, are u idiot???..recitation can only be memorize or forget..
If God call himself The Most Supreme or the Creator.. why would he become human.. thats not make any sense.. if he want something "he just say it be and it is" so if he want or dont want to forgive human he just order it... need to split into 3?? what is that??
God became human that just a human thinking & dreaming :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Ok, the quran is a recitation. But it is a [FABRICATED] recitation if you say anything written in it are the words spoken by Moses, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Mary, disciples, prophets or a god named: "allah"
Dont use the quran as proof Abraham, Moses or Jesus talked to or worshipped a god w/o an image! That is stupid on ur part & Islams part!
How would the bible in Genesis claim God(YHWH) created us in His image then Islam claim their god doesnt yet claim their god w/o an image is GOD?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard its up to u if u want to continue being ignorant.. u cant even accept the Word "Allah" has been used by Jewish & Christian Arabs for more then 2000 years ago for the word "God" & word God only used by English about 500 years ago..
why would you bother asking me about ur religion? are u realy have no knowledge??
Islam teaching God create Prophets Adam with his image but doesnt mean Adam looks like God.. Humans can see but God All seeing.. Humans can hear but God is All Hearing
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
WRONG! The word "allah" was NEVER used by Jews or Christians for 2,000 yrs. This is a perfect example of false Islam ic propaganda.
How could worshippers of YHWH Elohim call Him "allah", when this Arabic word did not exist prior to 400AD?
Alah in Aramaic or Hebrew means “to curse”
Allah in Aramaic or Hebrew means : “an oak”
“Al” in Aramaic or Hebrew means: “no”
Ref: ht tp : / / strongsnumbers. com/ hebrew/ 408. Ht m
All man looked like God w/2 arms & legs, torso & a head
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
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@jefeisdguard Again u keeping quote a "translation of the quran" but u dont even read the whole story or the explanation by a scholar but u do read a translation by some ignorant right??.. and only know how to provoke errors! and pretending you are The Quran or arabic language scholas...
U confius?? ok seem u like to refer a site.. why dont u go to muslim website and learn.. and stop go to ignorant website to learn islam !
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Are scholars any different from ur explanations? They can NOT prove the credibility of Muhammads prophethood or why allah doesnt have an image or why the quran is totally fabricated any more than you can! If they could, I would have received a competent rebuttal A YEAR AGO!
I am confused on the myriad ways ur pagan god creates! YHWH creates man in His image/likeness then breathes life & a soul into him. Where does ALLAH breath a soul into man?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
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@jefeisdguard u said "1st, Jesus DID say He is God & to worship me
2nd,U assume God procreated to have a 'son' & there4 it is U & Islam that have denigrated the word 2B referenced to SEX!
3rd,quran is fabricated & can NOT be trusted for credibility. PROVE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN IT IS TRUE!
4th,science is Gods gift to man. Jesus NEVER mentioned the word b/c science means NOTHING to God.
God can do the impossible even change 2+2 to= 5! Do U doubt this?
5th,Where are the HUMAN miracles in the quran?"
seyriona 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard i'm agree with u, god dont need science... but the book of faith is for mankind, not for god, human need prove that who is the messenger of god... how can someone who cant read and write know the phase of baby in the womb, who know how can the water of the sea is separated, the creation of universe, the structured of the earth 1400 years ago, this came from the all-mighty it self who know the secret between the heaven n the earth,
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
If God doesnt need science why does Islam depend so heavily on SCIENCE to bring legitimacy to Islam?
Did Jesus ever mention science in the bible? The science generalities within the quran make the quran a plagiarized information book of recitations!
Btw, flesh does NOT wrap itself around bones but grow with its cell formations!
There are errors there as well as in other places where Islamic verses all say the earth was flat! NOT ONE QURANIC VERSE SAYS THE EARTH WAS ROUND!
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@apamello
You keep parroting the bible today & the bible from yesterday!
Plz find me the link to the bible from yesterday! Show me where the original bible looks like! Show me how the overall message has changed so drastically that we cant USE our bibles today!
Give me specifics! Produce the proof! DO NOT JUST PARROT USELESS WORDS!
Am calling ur propagandists LIARS! Am calling ur indoctrination garbage lessons LIARS! Help prove me wrong by showing me the links
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard I telling u im not a expert or a scholars in bible. what i said is what i quote from the scholars of the bible, u may refer to these person Richard Elliott Friedman telling about the old testament(who wrote the bible) & Frederick Fyvie Bruce for the new testament(History of the Bible).
So if you wanna call somebody a liar call them not me ! its your bible you should know the best :)
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
These people I dont know. Friedman & Bryce. Dr. William Craig debated Hutchinson & defeated him soundly. Dawkins is afraid to debate Dr. Craig. Dr. Norman Geisler was a school chum to Bart Erhamn & has soundly refuted his comments. Dr Geisler sys he has studied all alleged contradictions & errors in the bible & found all alleged errors belong in solely to all detractors; those who severely excoriate the bible ... like the muslims.
I call muslims liars in lieu of Sura 4:157
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Well if you dont know, why dont you try to find out, just google "who wrote the bible & History of the bible" and go find your priests and confirm it yourself.. im pretty that u are not even from the mercenery school because seems u know nothing and being so ignorant ... Thats very Sad!
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
B/c I already know. Muslims simply parrot the mendacities from their propaganda & assume it is correct.
None know the truth.
The truth is, the bible is NOT corrupt but adheres to truth as a hand to a glove.
All of Islam would LOVE to see the bible as corrupt but NONE can prove it!
The entire bible is about Jesus. The OT & NT. Jesus words are w/o "errors, LIES or contradictions"!
The words of Jesus ARE the treasure map to mans salvation. Only Jesus was given a name above all names
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard you just cant accept the truth about the bible and u just believe what u read & see, but never try to search, explore and learn the truth.. thats just sad.. and u think god will approved.. Man you talking about a God here not a human.. you think he will approved? think!! dont be stupid dont be ignorant ok!
apamello 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard i say the bible is corrupted because there r story about homosexuality incest, immoral act by the prophet, Nauzibillah, curse those people who change the scripture by their own hand n say this word came by god,
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
Ok, lets talk about homosexual acts, incest, etc. Isnt it true these are typical humAN ACTS OF SIN THRU OUT THE WORLD?
So, why hide the truth? How is exposing the truth so corruptible? It is the quran that 'sugarcoats' the truth by hiding it! Inasfar as homosexuality; why R little boys part of ur 'jannat'? Inasfar as incest; why did Muhammad violate Leviticus 18:15 w/his daughter-in-law?
In fact, why did he break all 10 commandments? Covet, kill, lie, steal, fornicator, etc.
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard u bring up the history? look at the crusade war, what did the crussade army do when they take the holy city, palestine, the birth place of jesus... talking to u just like talking to a stone, my last advice, read the bible in its origin language, not in english, but in its origin language...
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
The Crusades war?
My friend, what do U think would've happened had the Crusaders NOT been there? Islam would've killed & conquered all Christian nations forcing 2 become muslims as has already happened historically!
The Crusaders rescued many from the potentates the likes of Saddams & Hitlers!
B/c of the violence in tghe qauran, that book s/b banned!
“Islam requires the earth --- not just a portion, but the whole planet”
Book: Jihad in Islam, by: Abul A’la Maududi Page 10
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Ohh you read the entire article about history crusade and War but you too lazy even to read about the Bibles history... i doubt you dont even know what is prophet Jesus peace be upon him is called in his native language... :(
apamello 2 months ago
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Why you bother reading his book?? r u reading his entire book or just some page talking about war??
The Quran teach "There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." Q 2:256
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Of course there is compulsion to violence in the quran! Islam is a religion of violence , death, blood-letting & intolerance. The qurans leaders want to dominate the world by forcing the world to practice Islam by any means, even deadly intimidation tactics!
The quran s/b banned from this earth!
There have been 15,000+ terrorists atrocities since 9/11 caused by mostly Islamic fundamentalists extremists.
Islam is in NO WAY a peaceful religion
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
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@jefeisdguard u bring up the history? look at the crusade war, what did the crussade army do when they take the holy city, palestine, the birth place of jesus... talking to u just like talking to a stone, my last advice, read the bible in its origin language, not in english, but in its origin language...
seyriona 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard i got an advice for, i am not forcing u to believe my word, maybe u should learn the origin language of the bible, understand the word from the origin language of the bible... did u know what language is it?
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
The origin of the original bible is simple & doesnt involve Islam whatsoever.
The bible God: YHWH never favored Ishmael but Isaac He did.
God Gave ONLY Isaac: a 2nd covenant, called his seed, promised him to Sarah & Abraham, called him Abrahams ONLY son & blessed ONLY him after the funeral of Abraham even w/Ishmael present!
All prophets will come after Abraham but ONLY thru the seed of Isaac as God states emphatically in Genesis 21:12.
These are important clues from God. U disobeying?
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard yup god can change 2 + 2 = 5, exemple, the creation of the prophete Jesus, the messiah, the holy servant of god,
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
If U believe God can change (2+2=5) why believe in science? Where're the human interest miracles as in the bible? Where're the healings, exorcisms, bringing dead people back to life, etc in the quran?
These are the true miracles not the alleged 'science' miracles muslims tout as miracles!
Why did muslims create fake miracles to Muhammad, now regarded as 'contradictions' when Muhammad clearly stated he doesnt do miracles?
The split in the moon are "riles": science NOT superstitions
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard in islam we have both science in miracle, ofc we cant explain the miracle thing such jesus (pbuh) rising the dead by the help of al-mighty, the spilting sea by the staff of moses by the help of the al-mighty, steel bending by david, it is beyond human capability...
seyriona 2 months ago
@seyriona
We dont care about the miracles of science. They mean nothing to God except that God has given us the intellect by which to explore ideas. The science & physics ends when we are trying to understand the science in a black hole. All of Einsteins theories go out the window when discussing the "singular" or "event horizon". E =MC2 doesnt work & quantum mechanics are used to explain things.
YHWH created all (Col 1:15-16) Allah is NOT our God b/c allah has NO image to have created us from
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard YHWH is Jesus? God is Crossed? God became Creations?? Thats nonsense!
God could never put himself into that low of becoming his creations! He is The Most Greatest! how come u could said such of thing...
For sure God teach science so that Humans will think and seek the truth about him thats he (God) is The Creator, The Eternal, The One who provide, sustain the entire Universe.
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
YES, Jesus is Yeshua, YHWH & all the names you can think of from the OT! John 17:11 states Jesus 'shared' names with His Father. Remember John 10:30?
Where does God from the bible teach us science or mentions that word?
Are YOU deliberately ignoring the rest of the bible that calls Jesus the creator of us?
Col 1:16, Hebrew 1:1-3, John 1:1-3, etc?
What other prophet ever forgave man for their sins or died for man? Jesus, as our creator, forgave us of our sins. Matt 9:6
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds - darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.
seyriona 2 months ago
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard We also believe those attribute.. For sure that is God Attributes not Humans... Al Baeth is the Resurrector not Resurrection..
Well what is the absolute Truth if not God?? he is the one create us all and he is not truth?? please dont blind yourself..
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
Al Baeth is referring to Jesus as our "LORD" whose etymologically transliterated thru Hebrew tetragrammaton meaning means: "Behold the hand, behold the nail"
Only Jesus was crucified & resurrected as Jesus did indeed prophesy His own crucifixion in Matt 20:18-19 & Matt 26:2
Only Jesus is gthe absolute "TRUTH"! Does Jesus LIE when He proclaims Himself to be "TRUTH"? Islam thinks so & is why Islams [FABRICATED] quran created Sura 4:157 calling Jesus a liar in lieu of His crucifixion
jefeisdguard 2 months ago
@jefeisdguard Funny that God crucified himself... thats realy humanlike... well Al Baith is arabic means The Resurrector, He God is the only one resurrect everythings thats die.
apamello 2 months ago
@apamello
If muslims believe we are polytheists; then how could Jesus crucify Himself?
Is Jesus stupid enough to talk to Himself or give birth to Himself?
Man, crucified Jesus. If Jesus had showed the power He had, who would have crucified Him? If Jesus was NOT crucified, then how awful how UNtrue how deceptive would the biblical prophesies be? This is why Islams Sura 4:157 is a LIE & the words of Jesus