I just read two pages of comments. I can't help but to think we humans don't have the maturity that equals our scientific/technological know-how. Could it be capitalism and communism are both flawed more due to humans rather than the systems themselves?
All these talks about the socialism of the 20th century, have to understand one thing: the nature of these countries and how they changed after 56. East Germany, the marxist-leninists suggested that it wasnt ready for socialism and it was better to become a peacefull united capitalist country than a fake socialist one that would work as a disgrace for socialism. Unfortunatly the revisionists won that battle and created this antidemocratic regime.
Don't treat me as unusual fool or people fascinated with western countries. I known what was in Americas, Africa, Asia, Eastern, Western Europe...
I really don't like politics from left or right side. The capitalism is bad, and just sometimes real slave system, like in Marx words. But socialism wasn't too much better.
Maybe the right way is Sweden, but they also have some disadvantages. And the worst is that i really don't known what to choose and make...
@itsareligionofpeace You don't known many things, about real live in soviet republics, or just Africa.... There were drugs, and crime. You don't known that there was a lot of moments, when just usual toilet paper was hard and rare good. Like the food too. Mass immigration? Yeah - no problem, just to travel outside country You had to be on knees in the immigration office. There were many crimes - in the CCCP republic They don't stolen for e.g. a box of diamonds. They just used trucks....
@nrepeb yes you are correct,my mother tells me how she and sisters had to queue for days for toilet paper in the cold winters of armenia,but after when our uncle worked for the import department,from the rest of soviet of course,we had bags of money,although i wasnt born then,unfortunately,yes stealing is bad,but how is one meant to survive,conditons were harsh but id rather live in that era than this immoral times we call democracy,Gorbachev rot in hell,for your glasnost and perestroika,
by Murray Rothbard, x lenin::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
... the state is the organisation of robbery systematised and writ large. The state is the only legal istitution in society that acquires its revenue by the use of coercion, by using violence and threat of violence on its victims. The state is, therefore, a centralized, regularised organisation of theft ...
That's really strange: even I born in 1989 in another post USSR country for many years I felt some warm feelings to DDR and then I saw the "Goodbye, Lenin"... For me it was visualisation of the country about I heard so much from parent etc. Movie is amazing, very well filmed, with great soundtrack and also it has the "feeling".
We're watching this is German class right now. This scene was amazing and when Lenin was pointing at Christiane, it was so slick and definitely amazing. My family came from the USSR, so this was a very happy scene for me, the communist regime breaking down. I'm so glad I was born into capitalism, but all those people trapped in a reality where only the government rules then experiencing capitalism for the first time must be heart wrenching.
sunt florin si am o varsta de 14 ani si parintii sunt foarte bolnavi siam aocatie de 42 de lei si nas putea sa cumpar o orga ca parintii mei sunt bolnavi si nu au bani sami cumpere o orga sa cand sai intretin si eu ca vreau cant sa ii pot intretine si io pe ei daca aveti vro orga care nu va mai trebuie va rog sa mio dati mie si dumnezeu sa va bine cuvanteze sunatima daca vreti sami dati care nu va mai tre buie 0731806200 si ajutatima sa pot canta va multumesc
A beautiful scene. I love this movie. I was too young to experience East Germany, but I took German from 7th grade through getting a degree in German language and culture. My professors who lived and traveled extensively in divided Germany had a certain sympathy for Ostalgie, but didn't forget that you payed for the simplicity of your lifestyle with your freedom. The Stasi was a real nightmare and even the people who remember certain things fondly would not wish to be back there.
Glancing over the comments, I don't think you dumb motherfuckers realize that this movie isn't about how Communism is bad, or that East Berlin was the COMMUNIST side, OR THAT IT'S A FOREIGN MOVIE!
To be fair, though, I think I still don't realize people like just don't care so long as you hear the bullshit you like, regardless of whether it's real or not.
"I don't think you dumb motherf****s realize that this movie isn't about ...
Nice mouth. Does you mother talk this way?
People in Socialist East Germany might not have been rich, and yes their government restricted lots of freedoms, but few if any East Germans ran around shooting their mouth off and talking about having sex with their mothers!
I spent summers of 1988 and 1989 in GDR as a guest of the state (my father was a communist), we worked and we toured places like Weimar Gotha Leipzig and around thuringia . Sure it had its problems and something had to change (no one likes to live in a totalitarian state unless you are near the top) , but Ive never met better people, people I am still friends with today. if you want to see 20th Century history please go to Berlin.
I agree that the East Germans I met were some of the best, nicest people I have ever met anywhere in the world. And I think their system was OK, not bad, pretty good.
Much better than what we have today here in the good old USA.
People in East Germany led simple, positive lives and cared about their neighbors. That's what makes for a good life.
@itsareligionofpeace The funny thing is the East Germans had almost as many different shops as the USA does. Costco , Walmart , Home Depot , Macys , JC Penny , Target , Best Buy.
@Yora21 Ich hab's leider nie im Kino gesehen, nur noch ein Video irgendwo herumliegen...aber selbst auf 'nem TV-Bildschirm ist es super beeindruckend, und, ja, verstörend.
If you think that living in a socially secure prison camp is preferable to freedom, then it's your choice. But do not try to diminish the value of freedom. The fall of Berlin wall was a great historical event because it demonstrated the triumph of spirit and freedom over slavery and materializm. Of course, western capitalism is also bad, but at least the west did not have to build walls to prevent their people from emigrating to USSR or North Korea
His mother's heart attack came because she saw her son being arrested.
He was told not to allow her any excitement, but the Wall had fallen and the DDR state Frau Kerner worshipped was no more.
He explains a Coca Cola sign as a humiliating admission that the Coca-Cola Co stole the recipie from the Peoples Bottling Plant after the war.
His childhood hero Sigmund Jahn is driving a taxi. In Herr Kerners ideal GDR Jahn becomes the head of a state which is triumphant, so his mother dies happy.
I loved this movie. So much better than the Hollywood crap we Americans are forced to endure.
I travelled a bit in the former socialist East Germany when it was divided. I really liked the East Germans - yeah, they knew they weren't living in the best of times, and West Germans were richer than they, but East Germans were regular good folks - and there were few of the horrible problems we have in the West - drugs, mass immigration, crime etc.
well first off, I understand when you say the east germans are regular good folk, but I resent the fact that the west germans are not. Ya they are richer because socialism was controlled in west germany, and the east did have problems of drugs, drugs are everywhere. Mass immigration, no, but thats only because their leaders were xenophobes and crime? Please the entire government was corrupt and controlled by moscow. The real crime though was not having the freedom the west germans had.
I used to feel the way you did - was a rah, rah Anti Communist, Reagan supporter "Tear Down the Wall!", But now I know much better.
The anything goes Capitalist West - with Hollywood, MTV perverts running the culture - this was much worse than European socialism (not Bolshevism) in the 70s, 80s.
It's better for people to be poorer but have job, economic security and do their own work and not really on millions of third world minimum wage slaves. Xenophobia is fine. Remember 9-11-01
@itsareligionofpeace yeah, let's reintroduce the gdr to keep the evil immigrants out! you haven't understood a lot, have you? how could this comment get so many thumbs up?
No it is you that haven't understood what makes a community a healthy, reasonably contented place.
In the GDR society depicted in Good Bye Lenin - the regular people recognized their neighbors and identified with their neighbors. They struggled together and helped each other. There were not huge class differences with despised elites flooding their communities with alien minimum wage slaves. It was safe to send their children to local schools. Try that in Chicago, Los Angeles, Londonstan
I Loved DDR. I grew up in East Berlin 1980. This movies just brought back my innocent child hood back. Life back then in DDR was easy and safe for kids to play outside without getting harmed.
Everytime i see this scene, and the Lenin statues fly away, I just can't hold myself of not crying.
It was once a belief of many good will people u know...and there was nothing wrong with the idelogoy even though it was abit utopical...but ppl have the right to dream, right?
I think there is an irony running through this movie. I don't think the mother is the dedicated communist she has convinced the children she is. The scene in the dacha is very telling. She was over compensating for her husbands defection. An elaborate lie to protect the children, b/c she was afraid to try for freedom in the West. They would make dissidents suffer.
Some "freedom" that they would lie about how many went over the wall and how they anaxed the Eastern german territory when the Eastern Germna goverment collapsed.
And it confirmed my own views of East Germany. I went there in 1984, still divided. I went to East and West Berlin.
West Berlin was too rich, too corrupt, punk rockers in pink hair. East Germans were regular people, trying to make the best of things. They knew it wasn't the best time in German history, but they had it better than most in the Eastern socialist states and they didn't have Western corruptions.
@itsareligionofpeace , then let us all go to prison. We will be safe, have jobs, be socially secure and so on. Life in a prison camp (of course, a humane one, not and Auszwitz type) certainly has its merits, doesn't it? But we wouldn't have FREEDOM, and that is the most important value. You have not grown up in the Soviet Union. It's like living in a huge prison camp: you are socially secure (at least until the government decide sto send you to Gulag, Afghanistan or Chernobil)
@zzukizzz I used to think your way. But not any more.
East Germany in the 80s, 90s was not a large prison camp. Nor was it Orwell's 1984, Stalin and Beria's USSR ~ 1935.
Regular Germans in East Germany weren't being persecuted for Thought Crime, children weren't denouncing their parents as "Counter Revolutionaries" as in China in the Cultural Revolution.
Instead it was regular, good German folks living simple, decent lives - no super rich or underclass poor. East Germans were nice folks.
@itsareligionofpeace , Not a prison camp? Then what was the function on the infamous Berlin wall? Usually high walls with barbed wir are used to guard prison camps. Don't get me wrong, I am not a worshipper of the current left wing neo-bolshevik regime of the West either. But I do not think that in order to hate one you must necessarily love the other. Both are unacceptable to me!
@zzukizzz The function of the Berlin Wall was border fortification, securing the border of one country East Germany from West Germany (West Germany for 45 years included a surrounded island of West Berlin).
Socialist East Germany secured the borders of their nation - something Americans just can't seem to get it through their stupid #*%(# TV addicted heads that all nations that want to survive must do.
We have a border with Mexico, I'll commission for East Germans to secure that border
@itsareligionofpeace Don't forget German's porn lol. Remember that scene where east germans watched their first porn movie and they were like "WTF? I discovered something new o.O" lol.
@OmegaUnknow yes, i do remember that scene with the porn - the new found Western "freedoms".
I think the point of this movie was to say that people are most satisfied when the belong to a community, where good people care about each other and don't just pursue selfish things, new fads.
the DDR in the last few decades was a decent, good place - not too rich or too poor, just regular folks living decent lives. It's a place I would like to be.
@itsareligionofpeace Me too. I think if Honecker weren't Stalinist, DDR would exists right now and I bet It'd be a way better than the current Deutschland. without corrupt politicians, without theafts. I'd be wonderful.
@itsareligionofpeace ...It's a fictional movie. Fictional means not real, made up, fabricated. What you just said is that a work of fiction confirms your bias, delusional views.
But hey, don't let pesky things like "facts" and "reality" stop ya! Not like anyone else does!
What we all need to take away from this is that East Germans were the very best people in the world. They were good, regular people (whatever that means) unlike everyone in the evil corrupt West.
Also there were of course no poor people in East Germany, why would anyone think that? Communism is a very successful economic system, and it makes good, regular people (whatever that means).
@itsareligionofpeace They didn't have Western Corruptions? As a student of Poli Sci, I will be the first to admit Western democracies are not the perfect systems of government. Berlin was too rich? You mean to say incomes was better. People were free to work where they want. Corrupt? The stasi, there's my answer. Punk? Freedom of expression? Dont make something that horrible sound any better than what it was: A brutal dictatorship which oppressed it's people in the name of the "people"
@Cnd1867 I stand by my comments - socialist East Germany in the 1980s was a good place, regular decent people living decent lives - not super rich or homeless poor, little or no crime, safe, efficient schools - try sending your children to public schools in Chicago or Washington D.C. for what - the last 60 years?
This movie is beautiful - a son loves his mom, the mom cares for her family and tries her best for her country East German, doing OK in the world. Isn't OK pretty good?
I was born after the cold war and I am not a Germany (I am a Chinese). So I am just giving my perspective as an outsider. When it is true that there are many problems and flaws in a capitalist and/or democratic society, and that there are perks under socialism, it is wrong and disrespectful to history if a person just choose to ignore the darker side of the GDR including but not limited to the Stasi secret police, the Berlin Wall, fake elections, etc.
@chankljp I'm a Chinese diaspora born in Australia. I have to say that I have no relations what so ever of the legacies of the Cold-War. I was born in 92 and so when I came into age, all the relics of the era was all gone. I live in a democratic nation and cannot think of any other standards of living (granted that Australia enjoys a heavy welfare system which is kinda like socialist-style). So I count myself lucky that I did not live like my parents during the Cultural Revolution.
I absolutely agree with you. No one will deny that there are many flaws and issues with in capitalist and/or democratic system, but they are by far the best systems that we have come up with. The user that I was responding to wrote about how great socialism in the Eastern Soviet blocks were and ignored all the much worst issues with in them such as the Stasi/KGB secret police, censorship of the media, a lack of the right to travel and free speech, etc.
@chankljp That's the thing about nostalgia, it ignores all the things that are negative and instead focuses on the positive side, however few they are.
Actually it was not reunited yet (October 1990) it was just after the wall and the communist regime had fallen and the country is heading for unification
Actually she died the day of unification when she passed away along with the country she believed and was devoted to
You mean they didn't allow anyone else to exploit the workers.
Anyone who takes pay for doing work for another is being exploited. The difference between a slave & free man is that the free man gets to choose who he works for.
As Bob Dylan sang, "You're gonna have to serve somebody." The only difference lies in choice.
The guys in gitmo are not there for just being "arab." You know that you silly goose.
Not having medical coverage is not like being tortured by state security agents,
Yes, I have spent several days only being to drink water for sustenance, it totally sucked and I was immensely hungry and tired for the first 36 hours, then I started burning my own fat and muscle. That did not equal being tortured by other mean people either.
You have FREEDOMS,not FREEDOM.Freedom is when you participate directly to the directions of your life.Urban "democracy" gives you the oportunity to take a pick once in 4 years or so...
I ve read the book.Its nice,even though i disagree with the idea
"Sonnenallee", "Good bay, Lenin", - part of the best europian movie. Gold collection europian movie. super original humor!!! Itis very popular films in Russia..
The young man/boy here is a great, noble man who loves his mother and did his best to preserve her wold that worded for her.
Yeah, the DDR wasn't perfect, but regular folks could get by and they didn't have to put up with horrible Hollywood movies with no plots, all special effects.
Arguably my favorite scene from one of my favorite movies. I got a lot of German history as part of my German degree and it was interesting to see how "ostalgie" influences modern German culture - a lot of East German products have been resurrected in recent years for those who miss them. I think I would be able to sympathize a lot more with the longing for a "simpler life" displayed in this film if the East German government hadn't been so dictatorial and abusive.
Actually, the movie gives a great stab also on consumism, bringing the idea of a simpler life, and the unnecessariness of the Western products (Christianne sees no difference whatsoever in the products, Alex changing only the pack). It's also unnecessary to bring back Eastern products, it's just another kind of weird fetiche (just like Che t-shirts).
Wonderfull scene. How did they do it that the statue just turned in the right time towards the mother as if Lenin was greeting her by stretching his hand towards her. Great cinema, wonderfull music.
This is an awesome film. I like how it wasn't gloryfing capitalism or communism (so-called) and focused on the human relations of that time. Great stuff.
At first socialists mean well, and want to "save the world". Afterwards, they care more about their original plans (and their power) than for the people. It's just what happens in the movie. Alex keeps the lie for his own pleasure of creating "a state he wanted to live in". It has to be Lara to tear down the Berlin Wall of Alex' mum.
Wow, I guess you are right! This changed my view of the movie... What makes me think your comment is right is that Alex does really say that he "created a state he always wished to live in" (or something like that, I don't know the English version).
Your interpretation makes Alex look like the communist party wanting its people not to know the truth. Thanks lumahau (I will watch the movie again now :)
Didn't Eastern Germans draw di(ks in elevators during the communist regime?
bogenseeberg 1 day ago
She's a really good actress
Zanite 1 month ago
It would be hard for everyone to wake up from a coma and realise that everything is way different from the past.
joe9320 2 months ago
PS: I'm from the States. I'm in excellent health but don't know how long I'll be alive...
youtoo5ify 2 months ago
I just read two pages of comments. I can't help but to think we humans don't have the maturity that equals our scientific/technological know-how. Could it be capitalism and communism are both flawed more due to humans rather than the systems themselves?
youtoo5ify 2 months ago 8
ich komm auch aus wuppertal ^^
biancaaaization 2 months ago
The first time I watched this movie I laughed my balls off when the helicopter came by with Lenin.
Wafaloo 3 months ago
All these talks about the socialism of the 20th century, have to understand one thing: the nature of these countries and how they changed after 56. East Germany, the marxist-leninists suggested that it wasnt ready for socialism and it was better to become a peacefull united capitalist country than a fake socialist one that would work as a disgrace for socialism. Unfortunatly the revisionists won that battle and created this antidemocratic regime.
metalorixos 5 months ago
I can't watch this movie without tears in my eyes, I know it sounds silly.
ZoranaDeLioncourt 5 months ago 12
Don't treat me as unusual fool or people fascinated with western countries. I known what was in Americas, Africa, Asia, Eastern, Western Europe...
I really don't like politics from left or right side. The capitalism is bad, and just sometimes real slave system, like in Marx words. But socialism wasn't too much better.
Maybe the right way is Sweden, but they also have some disadvantages. And the worst is that i really don't known what to choose and make...
nrepeb 6 months ago
@itsareligionofpeace You don't known many things, about real live in soviet republics, or just Africa.... There were drugs, and crime. You don't known that there was a lot of moments, when just usual toilet paper was hard and rare good. Like the food too. Mass immigration? Yeah - no problem, just to travel outside country You had to be on knees in the immigration office. There were many crimes - in the CCCP republic They don't stolen for e.g. a box of diamonds. They just used trucks....
nrepeb 6 months ago
@nrepeb yes you are correct,my mother tells me how she and sisters had to queue for days for toilet paper in the cold winters of armenia,but after when our uncle worked for the import department,from the rest of soviet of course,we had bags of money,although i wasnt born then,unfortunately,yes stealing is bad,but how is one meant to survive,conditons were harsh but id rather live in that era than this immoral times we call democracy,Gorbachev rot in hell,for your glasnost and perestroika,
manisco1 5 months ago
@MistressVicious79 ... ok thanks, and lol whatever, i am studying it u know so i do know it :p
kerrangrocks 7 months ago
by Murray Rothbard, x lenin::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
... the state is the organisation of robbery systematised and writ large. The state is the only legal istitution in society that acquires its revenue by the use of coercion, by using violence and threat of violence on its victims. The state is, therefore, a centralized, regularised organisation of theft ...
gioman47m 7 months ago
Lenin flying past, reaching out one last time, is simultaniously one of the funniest and saddest things I've ever seen...
spacehelmetforacow 7 months ago 3
anyone know/could link me to the music to this, i know its yan tiersen but what is this bit called :)
kerrangrocks 8 months ago
Mil Mi-8 hip 17 yea!!!
Petersillius143 8 months ago
2:35 was so heart breaking...
it's a tear jerker...
CharlesVariations 9 months ago
@CharlesVariations I agree with you right there. It gave me chills. 0____0
Frozentear3 8 months ago
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MARVELLOUS!!!!!!! Finally F R E E D O M!!!!!!!!
perla51 9 months ago
This scene made my little brother cry years ago -when it was on cinema-. Yes, he is a communist and he is a hardworking brain surgent now.
This movie is one of the master pieces.
AgartaliVaiz 10 months ago 2
lol he knocks over the baby carriage to save his muma
nickmitchko 10 months ago
That's really strange: even I born in 1989 in another post USSR country for many years I felt some warm feelings to DDR and then I saw the "Goodbye, Lenin"... For me it was visualisation of the country about I heard so much from parent etc. Movie is amazing, very well filmed, with great soundtrack and also it has the "feeling".
nikas2007 10 months ago
We're watching this is German class right now. This scene was amazing and when Lenin was pointing at Christiane, it was so slick and definitely amazing. My family came from the USSR, so this was a very happy scene for me, the communist regime breaking down. I'm so glad I was born into capitalism, but all those people trapped in a reality where only the government rules then experiencing capitalism for the first time must be heart wrenching.
Coshka77 10 months ago
FOREVER DDR W THE DDR
MrPrimo66 11 months ago
I cried on that scene...
platovaya 11 months ago
Only a few months and already the Billy bookcases have invaded from the north!
Rosethecomposer 1 year ago
The climax of that scene would be worthless without Fellini's "La Dolce Vita"
plexusranger 1 year ago
One can't help but love that boy and his love for his mother.
kokobaboko 1 year ago
This is one disturbing movie.
UTubeisSHIT523441 1 year ago
@UTubeisSHIT523441 why is it disturbing?
platovaya 11 months ago
He'll come back...
Aldameldo 1 year ago
one of the best movies I've seen!!
EFODERFIX 1 year ago
sunt florin si am o varsta de 14 ani si parintii sunt foarte bolnavi siam aocatie de 42 de lei si nas putea sa cumpar o orga ca parintii mei sunt bolnavi si nu au bani sami cumpere o orga sa cand sai intretin si eu ca vreau cant sa ii pot intretine si io pe ei daca aveti vro orga care nu va mai trebuie va rog sa mio dati mie si dumnezeu sa va bine cuvanteze sunatima daca vreti sami dati care nu va mai tre buie 0731806200 si ajutatima sa pot canta va multumesc
florinel370 1 year ago
Hilarious scene. :-)
ZemplinTemplar 1 year ago
There are few german movies I like, but I think this is one of the best scenes ever made.
Yora21 1 year ago
A beautiful scene. I love this movie. I was too young to experience East Germany, but I took German from 7th grade through getting a degree in German language and culture. My professors who lived and traveled extensively in divided Germany had a certain sympathy for Ostalgie, but didn't forget that you payed for the simplicity of your lifestyle with your freedom. The Stasi was a real nightmare and even the people who remember certain things fondly would not wish to be back there.
osiris0413 1 year ago
Para mi, la mejor escena en todas las películas que vi
RobiEnBuenosAires 1 year ago
Glancing over the comments, I don't think you dumb motherfuckers realize that this movie isn't about how Communism is bad, or that East Berlin was the COMMUNIST side, OR THAT IT'S A FOREIGN MOVIE!
To be fair, though, I think I still don't realize people like just don't care so long as you hear the bullshit you like, regardless of whether it's real or not.
-Tabris
tabrismacbeth 1 year ago
@tabrismacbeth says:
"I don't think you dumb motherf****s realize that this movie isn't about ...
Nice mouth. Does you mother talk this way?
People in Socialist East Germany might not have been rich, and yes their government restricted lots of freedoms, but few if any East Germans ran around shooting their mouth off and talking about having sex with their mothers!
Shame on you.
You make our country look very, very bad.
You bring dishonor to your family.
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago 2
I spent summers of 1988 and 1989 in GDR as a guest of the state (my father was a communist), we worked and we toured places like Weimar Gotha Leipzig and around thuringia . Sure it had its problems and something had to change (no one likes to live in a totalitarian state unless you are near the top) , but Ive never met better people, people I am still friends with today. if you want to see 20th Century history please go to Berlin.
cullyvan 1 year ago
@cullyvan very well said.
I agree that the East Germans I met were some of the best, nicest people I have ever met anywhere in the world. And I think their system was OK, not bad, pretty good.
Much better than what we have today here in the good old USA.
People in East Germany led simple, positive lives and cared about their neighbors. That's what makes for a good life.
God bless these good people. Loved this movie.
I hope Al Qaeda takes out Hollywood.
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace The funny thing is the East Germans had almost as many different shops as the USA does. Costco , Walmart , Home Depot , Macys , JC Penny , Target , Best Buy.
I think thats the lot.
cullyvan 1 year ago
@cullyvan Yes, they had. But it was uncommon that the shop had all goods available!!
SynthieAl 1 year ago
the part where the lenin statue is flying and "staring" at her is so disturbing!
muchtoocrazy 1 year ago
@muchtoocrazy When you watch it one the big screen, the scene is just incredible.
Yora21 1 year ago
@Yora21 Ich hab's leider nie im Kino gesehen, nur noch ein Video irgendwo herumliegen...aber selbst auf 'nem TV-Bildschirm ist es super beeindruckend, und, ja, verstörend.
muchtoocrazy 1 year ago
Nice movie!
umaronnamia 1 year ago
If you think that living in a socially secure prison camp is preferable to freedom, then it's your choice. But do not try to diminish the value of freedom. The fall of Berlin wall was a great historical event because it demonstrated the triumph of spirit and freedom over slavery and materializm. Of course, western capitalism is also bad, but at least the west did not have to build walls to prevent their people from emigrating to USSR or North Korea
zzukizzz 1 year ago
i just loved that movie in many, many ways...
TheAhalover 1 year ago
God, this scene is sooo beautyfull!!! I love how Lenin seems to say "Come with me", before he goes westwards. And the music fits so perfectly!
Zeobit 1 year ago
@Zeobit Oh my, I never noticed that he's not just going into the sunset, but it also means he's going into the west! That's brilliant. ^^
Yora21 1 year ago
Sheiße, sie hat die Lenin statue gesehen. Schlauer sohn sie hat zu alles erklären. Sie verdient die wahrheit zu wissen.
JReed1985 1 year ago
i love daniel bruhl, he is sooo cute, specially in this film :)
nuWa88 1 year ago
what does the statue represent?
doitanywayz 1 year ago
2:36-2:38 An epic scene..
Schutz222 1 year ago
This scene sends me chivers like I never got !
Charlyzekid 1 year ago
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Charlyzekid 1 year ago
Socialism will be removed from Britains streets in May.
We will no longer be oppressed by the State.
We will have our Liberty & Values restored.
HAHAHA ANTIFA!
fascismexposed 1 year ago
increible pelicula
me encantó
pertaton 1 year ago
Wonderful surreal moment; the whole of this film seemed to be about illusion having its own truth. Great film!
TheTubeMouse 1 year ago
@anto475 The music is composed by Yann Tiersen, who also composed music for 'Amélie'.
dgeleyn 1 year ago
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naduvenko 1 year ago
what's this music?
anto475 2 years ago
masterpiece !
zoucoli325 2 years ago 3
speechless!
slachica92 2 years ago 2
its the best movie scene ever. goosebumps.
noctualunae 2 years ago 3
I love this movie!
MrSuperMarK 2 years ago 5
good film, we watched it in the German lessons :)
ndkblackhawk 2 years ago 10
best scene in the film
albuchi 2 years ago 2
Can anyone tell me what the guy who plays Alex is called??
Salifara 2 years ago
@Salifara: He's called Daniel Brühl. One of the most famous german actors nowadays.
meph84 2 years ago 2
Thanks!! :D
Salifara 2 years ago
At 2:06 you see the lenin statue carried away by a helicopter.
But did this really happen or is it just dramatisation.
tigrelle 2 years ago
No, it' the magic of computer animation. If you watch extra stuff on the DVD, they explain how they did it.
jbaesler 2 years ago
its a reference to La Dolce Vita. in the first scene they are flying Jesus over the city of Rome and flirting with sunbathing women on the rooftops.
but I did really see a truck driving down karl marx allee (berlin) in 2004 with the heads of lenin and marx on it.
timeblind 2 years ago
His mother's heart attack came because she saw her son being arrested.
He was told not to allow her any excitement, but the Wall had fallen and the DDR state Frau Kerner worshipped was no more.
He explains a Coca Cola sign as a humiliating admission that the Coca-Cola Co stole the recipie from the Peoples Bottling Plant after the war.
His childhood hero Sigmund Jahn is driving a taxi. In Herr Kerners ideal GDR Jahn becomes the head of a state which is triumphant, so his mother dies happy.
NJPurling 2 years ago 3
What are 3 cultural thing you can notice in this movie???
cokacola04 2 years ago
homework much?
anto475 2 years ago
knows someone the title of this song? its so cool
ulrichspengler 2 years ago
'Goodbye Lenin'
David291 2 years ago
Depressing.
TremcladClock 2 years ago
I loved this movie. So much better than the Hollywood crap we Americans are forced to endure.
I travelled a bit in the former socialist East Germany when it was divided. I really liked the East Germans - yeah, they knew they weren't living in the best of times, and West Germans were richer than they, but East Germans were regular good folks - and there were few of the horrible problems we have in the West - drugs, mass immigration, crime etc.
The son in this movie is a good mamma's boy
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago 44
well first off, I understand when you say the east germans are regular good folk, but I resent the fact that the west germans are not. Ya they are richer because socialism was controlled in west germany, and the east did have problems of drugs, drugs are everywhere. Mass immigration, no, but thats only because their leaders were xenophobes and crime? Please the entire government was corrupt and controlled by moscow. The real crime though was not having the freedom the west germans had.
Cnd1867 2 years ago
I used to feel the way you did - was a rah, rah Anti Communist, Reagan supporter "Tear Down the Wall!", But now I know much better.
The anything goes Capitalist West - with Hollywood, MTV perverts running the culture - this was much worse than European socialism (not Bolshevism) in the 70s, 80s.
It's better for people to be poorer but have job, economic security and do their own work and not really on millions of third world minimum wage slaves. Xenophobia is fine. Remember 9-11-01
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago
@itsareligionofpeace yeah, let's reintroduce the gdr to keep the evil immigrants out! you haven't understood a lot, have you? how could this comment get so many thumbs up?
rvgw 1 year ago
No it is you that haven't understood what makes a community a healthy, reasonably contented place.
In the GDR society depicted in Good Bye Lenin - the regular people recognized their neighbors and identified with their neighbors. They struggled together and helped each other. There were not huge class differences with despised elites flooding their communities with alien minimum wage slaves. It was safe to send their children to local schools. Try that in Chicago, Los Angeles, Londonstan
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
I guess the mum has now understood what's happened, but appreciates that her son has worked hard to protect her from having another heart attack
celinou84 2 years ago 6
i love this film
Rmg12 2 years ago 3
I Loved DDR. I grew up in East Berlin 1980. This movies just brought back my innocent child hood back. Life back then in DDR was easy and safe for kids to play outside without getting harmed.
moyemeni1 2 years ago 4
Everytime i see this scene, and the Lenin statues fly away, I just can't hold myself of not crying.
It was once a belief of many good will people u know...and there was nothing wrong with the idelogoy even though it was abit utopical...but ppl have the right to dream, right?
qaz2004 2 years ago 6
This is such a wonderful scene from a wonderful film, and it encouraged me to go explore the fascinating city of Berlin last week.
tommacko 2 years ago 19
This is a beautiful movie!
rhymeswithblonde 2 years ago 2
what song is this? Im trying to find it on the soundtrack but I just cant seem to.
misbehavewoman4 2 years ago
Should be "Good-bye Lenin" by Yann Tiersen (movie soundtrack)
interiapl1 2 years ago
Que buena escena, resume en gran parte la pelicula,y el tema de Yann Tiersen es genial, soy fan de el.
clondedios1 2 years ago
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jackbornin1992 2 years ago
I think there is an irony running through this movie. I don't think the mother is the dedicated communist she has convinced the children she is. The scene in the dacha is very telling. She was over compensating for her husbands defection. An elaborate lie to protect the children, b/c she was afraid to try for freedom in the West. They would make dissidents suffer.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago 4
Some "freedom" that they would lie about how many went over the wall and how they anaxed the Eastern german territory when the Eastern Germna goverment collapsed.
PolishSoviet 2 years ago
Loved this movie!
And it confirmed my own views of East Germany. I went there in 1984, still divided. I went to East and West Berlin.
West Berlin was too rich, too corrupt, punk rockers in pink hair. East Germans were regular people, trying to make the best of things. They knew it wasn't the best time in German history, but they had it better than most in the Eastern socialist states and they didn't have Western corruptions.
They were very open and nice to me an American.
God bless Osties
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago 29
@itsareligionofpeace , then let us all go to prison. We will be safe, have jobs, be socially secure and so on. Life in a prison camp (of course, a humane one, not and Auszwitz type) certainly has its merits, doesn't it? But we wouldn't have FREEDOM, and that is the most important value. You have not grown up in the Soviet Union. It's like living in a huge prison camp: you are socially secure (at least until the government decide sto send you to Gulag, Afghanistan or Chernobil)
zzukizzz 1 year ago
@zzukizzz I used to think your way. But not any more.
East Germany in the 80s, 90s was not a large prison camp. Nor was it Orwell's 1984, Stalin and Beria's USSR ~ 1935.
Regular Germans in East Germany weren't being persecuted for Thought Crime, children weren't denouncing their parents as "Counter Revolutionaries" as in China in the Cultural Revolution.
Instead it was regular, good German folks living simple, decent lives - no super rich or underclass poor. East Germans were nice folks.
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace , Not a prison camp? Then what was the function on the infamous Berlin wall? Usually high walls with barbed wir are used to guard prison camps. Don't get me wrong, I am not a worshipper of the current left wing neo-bolshevik regime of the West either. But I do not think that in order to hate one you must necessarily love the other. Both are unacceptable to me!
zzukizzz 1 year ago
@zzukizzz The function of the Berlin Wall was border fortification, securing the border of one country East Germany from West Germany (West Germany for 45 years included a surrounded island of West Berlin).
Socialist East Germany secured the borders of their nation - something Americans just can't seem to get it through their stupid #*%(# TV addicted heads that all nations that want to survive must do.
We have a border with Mexico, I'll commission for East Germans to secure that border
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace Don't forget German's porn lol. Remember that scene where east germans watched their first porn movie and they were like "WTF? I discovered something new o.O" lol.
DDR was better than Westdeutschland ^^
OmegaUnknow 1 year ago
@OmegaUnknow yes, i do remember that scene with the porn - the new found Western "freedoms".
I think the point of this movie was to say that people are most satisfied when the belong to a community, where good people care about each other and don't just pursue selfish things, new fads.
the DDR in the last few decades was a decent, good place - not too rich or too poor, just regular folks living decent lives. It's a place I would like to be.
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace Me too. I think if Honecker weren't Stalinist, DDR would exists right now and I bet It'd be a way better than the current Deutschland. without corrupt politicians, without theafts. I'd be wonderful.
OmegaUnknow 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace ...It's a fictional movie. Fictional means not real, made up, fabricated. What you just said is that a work of fiction confirms your bias, delusional views.
But hey, don't let pesky things like "facts" and "reality" stop ya! Not like anyone else does!
-Tabris
tabrismacbeth 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace
What we all need to take away from this is that East Germans were the very best people in the world. They were good, regular people (whatever that means) unlike everyone in the evil corrupt West.
Also there were of course no poor people in East Germany, why would anyone think that? Communism is a very successful economic system, and it makes good, regular people (whatever that means).
Otox 1 year ago
@Otox is posting a lot of "(whatever that means)"
Please get away from your books, economics, philosophical theories and try to get to know regular folks, like the ones depicted in "Goodbye Lenin"
They are good folks.
The world needs...
Good folks.
itsareligionofpeace 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace They didn't have Western Corruptions? As a student of Poli Sci, I will be the first to admit Western democracies are not the perfect systems of government. Berlin was too rich? You mean to say incomes was better. People were free to work where they want. Corrupt? The stasi, there's my answer. Punk? Freedom of expression? Dont make something that horrible sound any better than what it was: A brutal dictatorship which oppressed it's people in the name of the "people"
Cnd1867 1 year ago
@Cnd1867 I stand by my comments - socialist East Germany in the 1980s was a good place, regular decent people living decent lives - not super rich or homeless poor, little or no crime, safe, efficient schools - try sending your children to public schools in Chicago or Washington D.C. for what - the last 60 years?
This movie is beautiful - a son loves his mom, the mom cares for her family and tries her best for her country East German, doing OK in the world. Isn't OK pretty good?
northwestmigration 1 year ago
@itsareligionofpeace
I was born after the cold war and I am not a Germany (I am a Chinese). So I am just giving my perspective as an outsider. When it is true that there are many problems and flaws in a capitalist and/or democratic society, and that there are perks under socialism, it is wrong and disrespectful to history if a person just choose to ignore the darker side of the GDR including but not limited to the Stasi secret police, the Berlin Wall, fake elections, etc.
chankljp 11 months ago
@chankljp I'm a Chinese diaspora born in Australia. I have to say that I have no relations what so ever of the legacies of the Cold-War. I was born in 92 and so when I came into age, all the relics of the era was all gone. I live in a democratic nation and cannot think of any other standards of living (granted that Australia enjoys a heavy welfare system which is kinda like socialist-style). So I count myself lucky that I did not live like my parents during the Cultural Revolution.
romanlegions 3 months ago
@romanlegions
I absolutely agree with you. No one will deny that there are many flaws and issues with in capitalist and/or democratic system, but they are by far the best systems that we have come up with. The user that I was responding to wrote about how great socialism in the Eastern Soviet blocks were and ignored all the much worst issues with in them such as the Stasi/KGB secret police, censorship of the media, a lack of the right to travel and free speech, etc.
chankljp 3 months ago
@chankljp That's the thing about nostalgia, it ignores all the things that are negative and instead focuses on the positive side, however few they are.
romanlegions 3 months ago
I can't imagine waking up and seeing a giant Lenin head being moved in the street.
bigpoopie69 2 years ago 2
Actually it was not reunited yet (October 1990) it was just after the wall and the communist regime had fallen and the country is heading for unification
Actually she died the day of unification when she passed away along with the country she believed and was devoted to
argm74 2 years ago
una película increíble, preciosa y divertida a la vez, nadie debería perdérsela
letillo 2 years ago
Does she not noticed the BURGER KING clothes ?
DerOgraf 2 years ago
does she even know what a Burger King is?
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
Western Coropation that expolits people. So no in the Eastern German goverment they didnt allow ecpolitation of the workers.
PolishSoviet 2 years ago 4
You mean they didn't allow anyone else to exploit the workers.
Anyone who takes pay for doing work for another is being exploited. The difference between a slave & free man is that the free man gets to choose who he works for.
As Bob Dylan sang, "You're gonna have to serve somebody." The only difference lies in choice.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago 3
ajudou muito no meu trabalho esse video
valew
karinemarcelino 2 years ago
Die Diktatur des Proletariats war nicht so brutal wie die Diktatur des Geldes.
carinhall1 2 years ago
Ever spent time in Hohenschonhausen for speaking what you believe in?
eldunno73 2 years ago 2
Ever spent time in Guantanamo for, err.., being Arab?
Ever spent several days without food?
Ever had an illness taht your insurance doens't cover?
Both horrors are terrible. We just got used to this particularprand of nightmare.
jtrejo 2 years ago
The guys in gitmo are not there for just being "arab." You know that you silly goose.
Not having medical coverage is not like being tortured by state security agents,
Yes, I have spent several days only being to drink water for sustenance, it totally sucked and I was immensely hungry and tired for the first 36 hours, then I started burning my own fat and muscle. That did not equal being tortured by other mean people either.
eldunno73 2 years ago
Both nazism and capitalism are barbarian....
fathermocker123 2 years ago 6
You have more freedom under Capitalism though. ITs based on individual liberty, read ADAM SMITH, the WEALTH OF NATIONS (1776).
eldunno73 2 years ago
You have FREEDOMS,not FREEDOM.Freedom is when you participate directly to the directions of your life.Urban "democracy" gives you the oportunity to take a pick once in 4 years or so...
I ve read the book.Its nice,even though i disagree with the idea
fathermocker123 2 years ago
este pelicula es grandiosa!!!
Lushinger 2 years ago
it has to do with the east germany thing and all
CCCPconscriptcod4 2 years ago
Die beste Szene im ganzen Film:)
Merlin08151 2 years ago
Die beste Szene im ganzen Film;)
Merlin08151 2 years ago
This is one of the most powerful and classic scenes in the history of modern cinema.Just awesome!!!
Batadawada 2 years ago 4
This is a true memorable scene in cinema history. it is one of the scenes that burns into your mind, makes tears come to my eyes every time i see it.
loplop32 2 years ago 4
same here my friend, same!
qaz2004 2 years ago
flying Lenin? Now that's cool!
Comrade1999 2 years ago 5
haha..."Now i've seen it all!"
TrcDK 2 years ago 3
Oh, my dear god! Such a good scene, such a good scrip, such a good song, such a good actuation! SUCH A GOOD FUCKIN' MOVIE!!
totopotrillo 2 years ago
Diese Szene ist lustig, ein bisschen traurig, aber ueberalls wonderschoen.
Ach!! Ich liebe den Film so!
Rfogy 2 years ago
"Sonnenallee", "Good bay, Lenin", - part of the best europian movie. Gold collection europian movie. super original humor!!! Itis very popular films in Russia..
shchvasilii 2 years ago
Die Szene könnte ich mir sooft ansehen, wirklich gut gemacht, auch noch mit der Musikuntermalung
lykan2 2 years ago
i cried in both times i saw this scene .. its a gr8 movie ...
aamaxim 2 years ago
The most moving scene in the film...
aldameldo2 2 years ago
I saw this movie for the first time tonight.
I loved this movie!
The young man/boy here is a great, noble man who loves his mother and did his best to preserve her wold that worded for her.
Yeah, the DDR wasn't perfect, but regular folks could get by and they didn't have to put up with horrible Hollywood movies with no plots, all special effects.
I loved this movie.
johnvbellis 3 years ago 3
can anyone name that piece of music?
thanks.
danevans9008 3 years ago
Il registra dimostra di essere un genio con questa scena.
robocop79 3 years ago
Es una escena magistral. Se me ponen los pelos de punta cada vez que la veo.
llamameborja 3 years ago
awesome movie!
guanaca1987 3 years ago
Ich sehe den Film am Freitag!
aldameldo2 3 years ago
Arguably my favorite scene from one of my favorite movies. I got a lot of German history as part of my German degree and it was interesting to see how "ostalgie" influences modern German culture - a lot of East German products have been resurrected in recent years for those who miss them. I think I would be able to sympathize a lot more with the longing for a "simpler life" displayed in this film if the East German government hadn't been so dictatorial and abusive.
osiris0413 3 years ago
Actually, the movie gives a great stab also on consumism, bringing the idea of a simpler life, and the unnecessariness of the Western products (Christianne sees no difference whatsoever in the products, Alex changing only the pack). It's also unnecessary to bring back Eastern products, it's just another kind of weird fetiche (just like Che t-shirts).
lumahau 3 years ago
un capolavoro!
ciaccapilu 3 years ago
Superb film. Very original- I love the graphics at the start.
CULAVE 3 years ago
Wonderfull scene. How did they do it that the statue just turned in the right time towards the mother as if Lenin was greeting her by stretching his hand towards her. Great cinema, wonderfull music.
Vidarts 3 years ago 3
CGI
ValeriusMyotis 3 years ago 2
Lol
Mcmotherfuckingrory 3 years ago
excelente pelicula, de las mejores!!
jocu111 3 years ago 6
This is an awesome film. I like how it wasn't gloryfing capitalism or communism (so-called) and focused on the human relations of that time. Great stuff.
KafkaCrow 3 years ago 10
You all don't get that Alex acts to his mum exactly like a socialist state: desperately trying to hide the truth pretending to protect her.
lumahau 3 years ago
I think that lumahau actually was right. This is part of the symbolism of the movie.
Lumeveraja 3 years ago
but there is a difference: he WANTS to help her! so i don't think your comparision is correct... sorry
ToMMYFiLM 3 years ago
At first socialists mean well, and want to "save the world". Afterwards, they care more about their original plans (and their power) than for the people. It's just what happens in the movie. Alex keeps the lie for his own pleasure of creating "a state he wanted to live in". It has to be Lara to tear down the Berlin Wall of Alex' mum.
lumahau 3 years ago
Wow, I guess you are right! This changed my view of the movie... What makes me think your comment is right is that Alex does really say that he "created a state he always wished to live in" (or something like that, I don't know the English version).
Your interpretation makes Alex look like the communist party wanting its people not to know the truth. Thanks lumahau (I will watch the movie again now :)
ToMMYFiLM 3 years ago
Do it! I have watched it several times and I can't seem to get tired of it.
lumahau 3 years ago
That's kind of what the movie is about.
Its a comedy drama dude!
gilli39 3 years ago
ça me donne des frissons
^^
r4v3nh1ll 3 years ago
just great
bsteinhubl 3 years ago
my most favourite scene of the movie
AlKyki 3 years ago
A funny and sad scene from a beautiful film.
Don't download or trade pirate copies - show your support for the film-makers and go out and buy this film. It's money well spent.
MrSpiddy 3 years ago
i do it all time.
down with capitalism
767fife 3 years ago
I agree MrSpiddy. Pirating is destroyng art and only furthers commercial mass production.
Vidarts 3 years ago
The part with the lenin statue looks like a scene from La Dolce Vita bu it has a bit more meaning
MostHauntedCharmedG 3 years ago
please upload the whole movie!
bitte setzen die ganze film am internet! (oder so)
Zet alsjeblieft de hele film hier op de site!! wil hem heel graag helemaal zien!
acerflots 3 years ago