The King which your founding fathers opposed ruled by "divine right". To this day a Catholic can not ascend the English throne & the Queen is also the head of the Anglican Church.
I'm sure the founding fathers of the USA had strong personal faith. They needed such to challenge a power structure that wasn't just political but used faith to demand obedience.
When you reflect upon what they built don't ignore what they stood against.
Government sponcered religion was a tool of oppression.
Thomas Paine, one of the framers of the constitution wrote the book, "The Age of Reason", which criticized institutionalized religion and challenged the legitimacy of the Bible and corruption of the Christian Church and its efforts to acquire political power
The painting fails to go to first causes. The Pope should be seen grinding the Constitution into the ground...and all the Presidential jesuits of the short robe that aided him should be the ones applauding so as to highlight the traitors.
All those Presidents murdered via jesuitical poison and bullet should be gathered at the right hand of the christ.
More RC diversion from the valid on googles conditioningtube.
We came here because religions were political powers in Europe and abused the citizens. This would have been a theocracy is what this dufist was correct.
@Yavor54 - False. Jefferson was a Deist. You need to read the actual words of Washington from his diary. He was a Christian who spoke eloquently in biblical notions; his diary is a rich source of religious wisdom and riddled with prayers to Christ.
Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
@PHANTOMSLAYER777 you have the freedom to move out of my country any time you would like...sooner the better...go find someplace better. I just don't understand all the hate, hate, hate...what a loser. How do you look at yourself in the mirror each day?
@PHANTOMSLAYER777 Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
@PHANTOMSLAYER777 Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
Christian heritage, that's a joke. If you consider raping Black women in barns, lynching, and the murder of an entire continent on Native Americans, Christian.
Wow, hell is opening wide for this murderous nation.
I can't believe this guy is running the We the People program in Colorado. What a fool. Take any kid on the Colorado We the People team and he/she could refute his interpretation of the DoI EASILY.
All who few this, please forward to all your contacts so America can see and feel the integrety of our past leaders who helped build our great country.American needs leaders like this today because we have a man serving as president who does not care about God, Country and Duty who is destroying from the inside-out our country. Great job Painter, you've done your part, it is now our responsibilty to pass this video on to the world and in a small and simple way, help bring about a huge change.
Through the years people of other religions have come to America to worship their God(s) too but that does not negate the original foundation of this country. One nation under God. Remember if you lived in any other country you could not have your own opinion nor could you have the freedoms that we enjoy here in America. ALSO you should thank a Soldier/Veteran for those rights, they serve to protect your freedom.
He is exactly RIGHT. We as a NATION under GOD have forgotten why our founding fathers came here to begin with. They sailed here to get away from the tyrannical "powers that were" in England. They did not want to serve a king who told them how to worship, who to worship and when to do so. They left England to come to America and build a new life so they could worship God how they wanted.
@dtrevinotx No where in the Constitution does it say "under God" of even "God". You are thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, where "under God" was added to the pledge in 1954. No mention of "God" before that in the pledge or the Constitution. In the constitution the only word that could be interpreted as "God" is "our Creator".
We are one nation under God... not under Christ. I think by the very nature of the founding father's wanting separation of church and state. To remain neutral in who God is... what we need to be looking at and not inserting Christ into the equation. God can be the Jewish God, Christian God... Hindu God... Because God is universal and all inclusive. Christ is exclusive. And the US is not exclusive by any means.
Your God, maybe. But not the God referred to in phrases such as "In God We Trust." Nor the one reflected in the artwork adorning our government buildings.
In (95) God (764) We (55) Trust (29312) = 30226 = 15113 is composed of 151 which is the prime of God (764) Is (91) One (655) = 1510 = 151 prime X 10 and from right to left 113 which is the prime of I (9) Am (14) One (655) = 678 = 113 prime X 6, etc.
Jesus (15131) is a prime number that's composed of 151 which is the prime of God (764) Is (91) One (655) = 1510 = 151 prime X 10. And from right to left 131 which is the prime of ONE (655) = 131 prime X 5.
@treefrog10001 Father Son and Holy Spirit, the Trinity. There is ONE WAY to PEACE THROUGH the POWER of the CROSS. GOD and CHRIST ARE ONE. John 14:6 "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had known who I am, then you would have known who my Father is. From now on you know him and have seen him!!" New Living Translation of the Holy Bible. He gave his life for me. Praise God! and his Precious and Only Son, Jesus Christ! John 3:16
@treefrog10001 Jesus is God. Jesus is the Son, God is the Father, and the Holy Spirit. They are One Trinity. God Loves Us, We are his Creations..May God Bless you.
@treefrog10001 Jesus Christ welcomed/accepted anyone from any walk of life that was willing to believe in the truth and surrender to GOD and repent of sin and have a personal relationship with him and his father GOD which involved love, trust, faithfulness etc...
To say that Jesus Christ and his father GOD is bound or exclusive to a religion(Christ is against religion btw) is clearly wrong and incorrect. If you want to know who GOD and his son Jesus Christ really are read the HOLY BIBLE.
Revisionists attempting to change history again to conform to their propaganda. The Founding Fathers, almost to a man, were secular deists. Franklin in particular was extremely skeptical of the whole "Christian" dogma. Interesting that the Constitution does not mention Jesus even once, and refers to a Creator only in the one, formal phrase "endowed by their creator" without even identifying that creator. God? Allah? The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Who knows? All they said was "creator."
That's a contradiction. Those Deists believed in God, and wrote many times with references to God. They were also Freemasons. Freemasons are not Secularists.
"the Constitution does not mention Jesus even once"
Because the Constitution is law, for a non-aligned government, one which doesn't represent the Church like the British monarchy did, for a place where religious freedom can be found.
You're right, they were Freemasons and deists, and not tied to Christian dogma. And right again, the Constitution is law for a government which does not represent the Church. Therefore, a statement that our government is built on Christianity is preposterous. It was built on English Common Law. The fact that certain precepts of behavior happen to be found in Christianity (as well as many other codes of ethics) does not reflect a Christian basis any more than it reflects a Zoroastrian basis.
"Therefore, a statement that our government is built on Christianity is preposterous. It was built on English Common Law"
English Common Law is based on Christian laws & beliefs. You do realize that the British Monarch is head of the Anglican Church, right? Also, our Founders took their religious beliefs and interpreted them into our founding documents, as in "are endowed by their Creator," etc., etc.
But more so, this is a Christian nation having a secular government.
And again... what is the identity of that "Creator"? The framers of the Constitution intentionally left that ambiguous. Was it Creator Ahura Mazda? Was it Gaia? Was it the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Those "Christians" you refer to were careful not to spell that part out, allowing room for anyone's version of the Creator to fill in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even in Christianity, I believe it is specifically "The Father" who is referred to as the Creator. Jesus if kinda God, Jr.
@IntellectualAddict "You do realize that the British Monarch is head of the Anglican Church, right?" You do realize that is the reason why they wanted a new nation to begin with? The founding fathers were abhorrent about the government should not endorse ANY religion, but gave the people the right to practice, or not, their own, without government pushing ANY religion. The signers ranged from devote Catholics to Atheists which is why they compromised on using the word "Creator" and little else.
@iamlost2 "You do realize that is the reason why they wanted a new nation" Yes. "the government should not endorse ANY religion" And it doesn't. "without government pushing ANY religion" And it doesn't. "signers ranged from devote Catholics to Atheists" Wrong. More than 1/2 were Episcopalian/Anglican, none were Atheist. That is a lie the Left would have us all believe. "which is why they compromised on using the word "Creator"" Wrong again, it was meant to respect all religions.
@IntellectualAddict "Wrong. More than 1/2 were Episcopalian/Anglican, none were Atheist. That is a lie the Left would have us all believe. "which is why they compromised on using the word "Creator"" Wrong again, it was meant to respect all religions." It wasn't to "respect all religions" but to leave it out altogether from the government, Freemasonry was synonymous with atheist in many parts of the word which is why the kept their society "secret". They couldn't admit they were not believers.
But the First Amendment says the federal government cannot establish an official State religion, doesn't mean it cannot acknowledge the existence of or work with religions.
After the adoption of the Constitution several states had official state religions, including Massachusettes. It is allowed by the Constitution.
It's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
@IntellectualAddict Yes, I know, but many of the framers of the constitution were Freemasons, and Freemasons were forbidden to talk about their religious beliefs other than believing in a "Creator" whether that be Allah, Jesus, God, Mother Nature, etc. In their lodges, that is.
You, my friend, need to study your histoy. True there were a FEW secularists in the founding fathers...but, the overwhelming majority were Christians. I cannot stand people such as yourself attempting to re-write our true heritage and history in order to propagate lies.
Oh, my goodness! Call me a murderer. Call me a child molester. Call me a jaywalker. But you called me the most heinous name of all! You called me a l-l-l-liberal. I'm SO ashamed!
"You have no valid point, so you try to dismiss mine by labeling it "liberal,""
I don't dismiss it because its Liberal, I dismiss it because its wrong. And you've got a lot of balls to read my messages and say I have no valid point. That's right out of the Liberal playbook; dismiss regardless of validity or facts. But I'm used to it.
Typical methodology of Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck. You have no valid point, so you try to dismiss mine by labeling it "liberal," as though by so labeling it you invalidate it. Talk about intellectual dishonesty!
Your a joke. Tell us all about the implications regarding the Articles of the Confed, and the creation of the Constitution, on the representation that we are seeing today; and how it impacts our ability to force the "representatives" to represent "we the people".
OH yeah, HOPE and CHANGE is DEAD! Not that it was ever real.
There's a huge market of suckers ready to shell out $500 for a copy of this painting. Fundamentalism, friends, is our enemy, be it Christian or Jewish or Muslim.
"There's a huge market of suckers ready to shell out $500 for a copy of this painting. Fundamentalism, friends, is our enemy, be it Christian or Jewish or Muslim."
There's also a huge market for the subversive Secularist bullshit you spew. A side of "hate" & a side of "Communism" come free of charge with that platter.
We are all made in the image of our Lord God The Savior Jesus Christ. Just look at David Justice - the commentator in this video - himself. I am sorry about the very bad audio!
I inadvertantly clicked "remove" on a very nice comment from a visitor which I wanted to send a reply to. Please accept my apologies for my mistake as your words were very inspirational.
I will try to be more careful. Many people have commented on this video and I need to do more to encourage this feedback, all of which is great.
Beautiful painting...talented man. Although I'm not sure one could actually SEE Christ and remain standing but would fall on our faces in His presence, it is a beautiful thought and painting. TO KREATIVEKITTY3, please remember that how you present yourself as a Christian reflects on the rest of us...your language is not in keeping with Ephesians 4:29.
please instruct. I am sorry if I have offended you in any way with my commentary. We are still trying to raise an additional $200 so that this painting can leave the Pheasant Run Resort and get on the road to help us spread the blessings of our Lord's Gospel message which is rooted in freedom and liberty.
love the painting love the vid sugestion to the person who put the time in taking it you need to invest in a camera that can support a wireless mic or a camera that has a condencer mic on it but over all not a bad shoot man
What many of us Christians forget about, is to not throw stones at eachother. Our actions should speak for our faith.
For example, the power of a smile that comes from having the faith that everything will be okay and happens for a reason, will shine through. You will make someone else's shitty day better, by simply smiling at them and genuinely wishing them a good day.
well all you people who are NON BELIEVERS and scoffers.... you will find out for sure one day - as for ME... I will continue to TRUST GOD and believe and continue to ask for his help and guidance for our nation as well as myself.
Founding fathers were deists not Christians. The degree of common sense and ration thinking in the US has gone downhill ever since to where it is now.
of course you will realize how brilliant your statement is at the moment you take your last breath.. I really trust and pray you will come to the knowledge of your error before that time, mcgaugh57
@mcgaugh57 How bout He lands you in front of His throne? It is beyond my comprehension that someone, anyone, can look around at the beauty (there is still some left) in this world and think it was all the result of some cosmic primodeal accident. If you're right and us believers are wrong, when we die, no big deal. But if we're right and you're wrong, when we die, you're in alot of trouble.
Thanks to the wisdom of our Founding Fathers, you have the right to believe in any or no religion with no persecution. The difference between what you believe and what I believe is that if I'm wrong, I'll never know the difference. On the other hand, if you're wrong...well, you get the picture.
Well I get the picture that all you believers. Only have the threat of burning in hell as a reason to believe. Kind of sad to live in fear of your god thing.
If you think that the threat of eternal damnation is the reason we believe, then you really don't understand. Faith in God doesn't bring sadness, it brings hope and joy to the believer. My husband of 42 years has terminal cancer. Our faith sustains us because it gives us hope. Sadness comes from humanity, not from God. I respect your belief in nothing, but perhaps you can explain to me why many so atheists seem to feel threatened by my faith? I don't deride your belief why must you
I'm truly sad that you think anyone can threaten you with hell (even though I know that some Christians think they can). I cannot make eternal judgement on anyone. I can't see into their hearts and souls nor know the crosses they may bear or what influences may have led them to where they may be. Only God can do that. You and I are totally in control of our own eternal destiny by the choices we make. My job is to love my neighbor not to condemn him. There were no qualifiers on that commandment.
Pathetic! You just didn't get the religious foundation that you needed as a child in order for you to get through life as a happy person, you are a sad man and you missed out on a very wonderful thing, "FAITH", or as you put it "my God thing", only you didn't even have the respect to capitalize the name of GOD.
As a child I was forced to go to church by my parents who believe in a pretend god. Faith in words written by men ? Going to take one hell of lot more then that or the threat of hell. For me to see the light.
no but u couldent become a state if you didnt have schools which it was requred to teach about god and they did have a congresanul sunday service at dc for a long time
On day, every knee will bow & every tongue shall confess Jesus as LORD. He IS King of kings & LORD of lords, whether you beleive in Him or not. Be smart, accept Him as saviour & save your soul from the depths of hell.
Uhhh, WHERE in our constitution does it SAY,"Separation of Church and State."
What line, what paragraph?
The only person(s) who believe in separation of church and state are those who have not walked our nations monuments and courts that have definitive proof that there IS NO separation of church and state.
There...I give you a nation full of monuments as proof...where's yours?
This is not in constituion, but the term is from Jefferson....used frequently in his leters to Adams and others.
Your statement is ignorant and illfounded. If you want to live in a theocracy please move to Iran. Separation of church and state protects both church and state....its not a Christian vs Atheist issue..
There is no separation of church and state anywhere in the U.S. constitution. It was gotten from a letter from Jefferson, addressing the concerns of a church. It means that the church will not be ruled or controlled by the government. Not the other way around.
it also means that the church shall not rule the government. how quickly we forget how jfk was criticized for being a catholic.''could he keep his religious ways OUT of his governing.i wonder how Christians would feel if we elected a Buddhist as president?i wonder why all this religious thought goes into a country born by religious freedom ?
thesaithproject...that is NOT what Jefferson meant. Read his biography from Hitchens. The founders were deists...had faith in God but clearly not Yahweh or Jesus, except potentially Franklin.
Your post implies that churn can control government!!???
If you'll do some reading, you will find that our founders never mentioned [Jesus] they only used the word 'Creator', and 'God', thus keeping to the tenent for Freedom OF Religion. [There were Jewish Patriots too.] They were very clear that they believed the law to be Natural Law - from the Creator of all Nature - God.
Nor did they ever use the word democracy to describe the Republican form of government they established.
@777zealoh But are we not all children of God?, and may I ask, do you own slaves and do you beat them like Jesus suggested you do? May I ask is this a Godly action?
Yahshua, the Hebrew name of jesus, His real name. The letter J is only 500 years old, so 2000 years ago when he walked, that couldn't have been his name. Research it.
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The King which your founding fathers opposed ruled by "divine right". To this day a Catholic can not ascend the English throne & the Queen is also the head of the Anglican Church.
I'm sure the founding fathers of the USA had strong personal faith. They needed such to challenge a power structure that wasn't just political but used faith to demand obedience.
When you reflect upon what they built don't ignore what they stood against.
Government sponcered religion was a tool of oppression.
Eddythebeast666 8 months ago
"under god" wasn't inserted into the pledge until the 1950's. the founding father's were all anti-religionists. also jesus is a faggot, period.
SUPERSTUD6000 1 year ago
Thomas Paine, one of the framers of the constitution wrote the book, "The Age of Reason", which criticized institutionalized religion and challenged the legitimacy of the Bible and corruption of the Christian Church and its efforts to acquire political power
iamlost2 1 year ago
More agitprop.
The painting fails to go to first causes. The Pope should be seen grinding the Constitution into the ground...and all the Presidential jesuits of the short robe that aided him should be the ones applauding so as to highlight the traitors.
All those Presidents murdered via jesuitical poison and bullet should be gathered at the right hand of the christ.
More RC diversion from the valid on googles conditioningtube.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Washington, Madison, Adams, Jefferson... Basically Atheists.
We came here because religions were political powers in Europe and abused the citizens. This would have been a theocracy is what this dufist was correct.
Yavor54 1 year ago
@Yavor54 - False. Jefferson was a Deist. You need to read the actual words of Washington from his diary. He was a Christian who spoke eloquently in biblical notions; his diary is a rich source of religious wisdom and riddled with prayers to Christ.
Eschatus2 1 year ago
Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
Discovega 1 year ago
Must be hard being a loser.
Oh, and by the way...God Bless America!
Discovega 1 year ago
@darling67 Duhhhh...
Discovega 1 year ago
One nation under Satan.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
@PHANTOMSLAYER777 you have the freedom to move out of my country any time you would like...sooner the better...go find someplace better. I just don't understand all the hate, hate, hate...what a loser. How do you look at yourself in the mirror each day?
Discovega 1 year ago
@Discovega Your country, sure boss. Uhhh, any chance you could help me leave, it being your country and all? Stop doing drugs.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
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@PHANTOMSLAYER777 Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
Discovega 1 year ago
@Discovega Stay off my channel.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
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@PHANTOMSLAYER777 Hate, Hate, Hate...you are so full of hate. You have a sad pathetic life. What a loser. The good news is that people so full of hate die sooner than those without hate. So, in the end...I win!
Discovega 1 year ago
Christian heritage, that's a joke. If you consider raping Black women in barns, lynching, and the murder of an entire continent on Native Americans, Christian.
Wow, hell is opening wide for this murderous nation.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
I can't believe this guy is running the We the People program in Colorado. What a fool. Take any kid on the Colorado We the People team and he/she could refute his interpretation of the DoI EASILY.
dr0dread 1 year ago
All who few this, please forward to all your contacts so America can see and feel the integrety of our past leaders who helped build our great country.American needs leaders like this today because we have a man serving as president who does not care about God, Country and Duty who is destroying from the inside-out our country. Great job Painter, you've done your part, it is now our responsibilty to pass this video on to the world and in a small and simple way, help bring about a huge change.
Discovega 1 year ago
Through the years people of other religions have come to America to worship their God(s) too but that does not negate the original foundation of this country. One nation under God. Remember if you lived in any other country you could not have your own opinion nor could you have the freedoms that we enjoy here in America. ALSO you should thank a Soldier/Veteran for those rights, they serve to protect your freedom.
dtrevinotx 1 year ago
He is exactly RIGHT. We as a NATION under GOD have forgotten why our founding fathers came here to begin with. They sailed here to get away from the tyrannical "powers that were" in England. They did not want to serve a king who told them how to worship, who to worship and when to do so. They left England to come to America and build a new life so they could worship God how they wanted.
dtrevinotx 1 year ago
@dtrevinotx No where in the Constitution does it say "under God" of even "God". You are thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, where "under God" was added to the pledge in 1954. No mention of "God" before that in the pledge or the Constitution. In the constitution the only word that could be interpreted as "God" is "our Creator".
iamlost2 1 year ago
IN GOD WE TRUST FOREVER!!! If we are to remain the GREAT nation we are!!
itsame2nite 2 years ago
We are one nation under God... not under Christ. I think by the very nature of the founding father's wanting separation of church and state. To remain neutral in who God is... what we need to be looking at and not inserting Christ into the equation. God can be the Jewish God, Christian God... Hindu God... Because God is universal and all inclusive. Christ is exclusive. And the US is not exclusive by any means.
treefrog10001 2 years ago
"Hindu God"
Your God, maybe. But not the God referred to in phrases such as "In God We Trust." Nor the one reflected in the artwork adorning our government buildings.
By the way, Hindus have more than one god.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago 4
In (95) God (764) We (55) Trust (29312) = 30226 = 15113 is composed of 151 which is the prime of God (764) Is (91) One (655) = 1510 = 151 prime X 10 and from right to left 113 which is the prime of I (9) Am (14) One (655) = 678 = 113 prime X 6, etc.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
In (95) God (764) We (55) Trust (29312) = 30226 = 127 prime X 238.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
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"In (95) God (764) We (55) Trust (29312) = 30226 = 127 prime X 238."
What are you talking about, and why are you sending that to me?
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
Jesus (15131) is a prime number that's composed of 151 which is the prime of God (764) Is (91) One (655) = 1510 = 151 prime X 10. And from right to left 131 which is the prime of ONE (655) = 131 prime X 5.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
@treefrog10001 Father Son and Holy Spirit, the Trinity. There is ONE WAY to PEACE THROUGH the POWER of the CROSS. GOD and CHRIST ARE ONE. John 14:6 "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had known who I am, then you would have known who my Father is. From now on you know him and have seen him!!" New Living Translation of the Holy Bible. He gave his life for me. Praise God! and his Precious and Only Son, Jesus Christ! John 3:16
GraceiamSAVED 1 year ago
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@treefrog10001 Jesus is God. Jesus is the Son, God is the Father, and the Holy Spirit. They are One Trinity. God Loves Us, We are his Creations..May God Bless you.
MayaCherry86 1 year ago
@treefrog10001 Jesus Christ welcomed/accepted anyone from any walk of life that was willing to believe in the truth and surrender to GOD and repent of sin and have a personal relationship with him and his father GOD which involved love, trust, faithfulness etc...
To say that Jesus Christ and his father GOD is bound or exclusive to a religion(Christ is against religion btw) is clearly wrong and incorrect. If you want to know who GOD and his son Jesus Christ really are read the HOLY BIBLE.
skyblue11685 7 months ago
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smartbandwidth 2 years ago
you can thank the God Fearing Founding Fathers for our right to post our feelings on this forum. If you disagree, move to Iran.
xvirg 2 years ago
many of the comments here clearly tell me what is wrong with your country !!! What a shame !!!
mrheiyu 2 years ago
Revisionists attempting to change history again to conform to their propaganda. The Founding Fathers, almost to a man, were secular deists. Franklin in particular was extremely skeptical of the whole "Christian" dogma. Interesting that the Constitution does not mention Jesus even once, and refers to a Creator only in the one, formal phrase "endowed by their creator" without even identifying that creator. God? Allah? The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Who knows? All they said was "creator."
robertnsterling 2 years ago
"were secular deists"
That's a contradiction. Those Deists believed in God, and wrote many times with references to God. They were also Freemasons. Freemasons are not Secularists.
"the Constitution does not mention Jesus even once"
Because the Constitution is law, for a non-aligned government, one which doesn't represent the Church like the British monarchy did, for a place where religious freedom can be found.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
You're right, they were Freemasons and deists, and not tied to Christian dogma. And right again, the Constitution is law for a government which does not represent the Church. Therefore, a statement that our government is built on Christianity is preposterous. It was built on English Common Law. The fact that certain precepts of behavior happen to be found in Christianity (as well as many other codes of ethics) does not reflect a Christian basis any more than it reflects a Zoroastrian basis.
robertnsterling 2 years ago
"Therefore, a statement that our government is built on Christianity is preposterous. It was built on English Common Law"
English Common Law is based on Christian laws & beliefs. You do realize that the British Monarch is head of the Anglican Church, right? Also, our Founders took their religious beliefs and interpreted them into our founding documents, as in "are endowed by their Creator," etc., etc.
But more so, this is a Christian nation having a secular government.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
And again... what is the identity of that "Creator"? The framers of the Constitution intentionally left that ambiguous. Was it Creator Ahura Mazda? Was it Gaia? Was it the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Those "Christians" you refer to were careful not to spell that part out, allowing room for anyone's version of the Creator to fill in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even in Christianity, I believe it is specifically "The Father" who is referred to as the Creator. Jesus if kinda God, Jr.
robertnsterling 2 years ago
"left that ambiguous"
Not specific, but hardly unknown.
"not to spell that part out"
Because its a secular government.
"Correct me if I'm wrong"
You're not entirely wrong, but you're disparaging towards it.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
@IntellectualAddict "You do realize that the British Monarch is head of the Anglican Church, right?" You do realize that is the reason why they wanted a new nation to begin with? The founding fathers were abhorrent about the government should not endorse ANY religion, but gave the people the right to practice, or not, their own, without government pushing ANY religion. The signers ranged from devote Catholics to Atheists which is why they compromised on using the word "Creator" and little else.
iamlost2 1 year ago
IntellectualAddict 1 year ago
@IntellectualAddict "Wrong. More than 1/2 were Episcopalian/Anglican, none were Atheist. That is a lie the Left would have us all believe. "which is why they compromised on using the word "Creator"" Wrong again, it was meant to respect all religions." It wasn't to "respect all religions" but to leave it out altogether from the government, Freemasonry was synonymous with atheist in many parts of the word which is why the kept their society "secret". They couldn't admit they were not believers.
iamlost2 1 year ago
@iamlost2
"but to leave it out altogether from the government"
Merely acknowledging a Creator is doing exactly what you say they weren't doing, dummy.
"Freemasonry was synonymous with atheist"
How do you reconcile this with the Freemas membership requirement that one must beleive in a Creator? You're just full of shit.
"They couldn't admit they were not believers"
Even in their own personal correspondence to each other? Please, why do you continue this bullshit?
IntellectualAddict 1 year ago
@iamlost2
But the First Amendment says the federal government cannot establish an official State religion, doesn't mean it cannot acknowledge the existence of or work with religions.
After the adoption of the Constitution several states had official state religions, including Massachusettes. It is allowed by the Constitution.
It's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
IntellectualAddict 1 year ago
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iamlost2 1 year ago
@IntellectualAddict Yes, I know, but many of the framers of the constitution were Freemasons, and Freemasons were forbidden to talk about their religious beliefs other than believing in a "Creator" whether that be Allah, Jesus, God, Mother Nature, etc. In their lodges, that is.
iamlost2 1 year ago
@iamlost2
Just being a Freemason doesn't mean you're not a Christian. So you're saying our Founders were Muslims?
IntellectualAddict 1 year ago
You, my friend, need to study your histoy. True there were a FEW secularists in the founding fathers...but, the overwhelming majority were Christians. I cannot stand people such as yourself attempting to re-write our true heritage and history in order to propagate lies.
Dr. E
drmark1956 2 years ago
Hahaha... that's funny. Repeating that revisionist fairy tale, and then suggesting that it's me trying to rewrite history.
robertnsterling 2 years ago
"Repeating that revisionist fairy tale, and then suggesting that it's me trying to rewrite history"
Typical Liberal methodology; Do something intellectually dishonest, then claim those opposing you are doing it.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
Oh, my goodness! Call me a murderer. Call me a child molester. Call me a jaywalker. But you called me the most heinous name of all! You called me a l-l-l-liberal. I'm SO ashamed!
robertnsterling 2 years ago
"You called me a l-l-l-liberal. I'm SO ashamed!"
Of course you are. Most Liberals are.
"You have no valid point, so you try to dismiss mine by labeling it "liberal,""
I don't dismiss it because its Liberal, I dismiss it because its wrong. And you've got a lot of balls to read my messages and say I have no valid point. That's right out of the Liberal playbook; dismiss regardless of validity or facts. But I'm used to it.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
"That's right out of the Liberal playbook"
Q.E.D.
robertnsterling 2 years ago
Typical methodology of Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck. You have no valid point, so you try to dismiss mine by labeling it "liberal," as though by so labeling it you invalidate it. Talk about intellectual dishonesty!
robertnsterling 2 years ago
Your a joke. Tell us all about the implications regarding the Articles of the Confed, and the creation of the Constitution, on the representation that we are seeing today; and how it impacts our ability to force the "representatives" to represent "we the people".
OH yeah, HOPE and CHANGE is DEAD! Not that it was ever real.
bigc028282 2 years ago
God Bless America. As long as obama is in office this country has no chance whatsoever.
CrimsonChampions 2 years ago
Very insigthfull painting!
importantisimo1 2 years ago
This "sucker" only paid $29 for a copy and was proud to do it. Praise the Lord!
MamaRowe 2 years ago
WOW! how big was your copy?
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
There's a huge market of suckers ready to shell out $500 for a copy of this painting. Fundamentalism, friends, is our enemy, be it Christian or Jewish or Muslim.
MrToadMaster 2 years ago
"There's a huge market of suckers ready to shell out $500 for a copy of this painting. Fundamentalism, friends, is our enemy, be it Christian or Jewish or Muslim."
There's also a huge market for the subversive Secularist bullshit you spew. A side of "hate" & a side of "Communism" come free of charge with that platter.
IntellectualAddict 2 years ago
We are all made in the image of our Lord God The Savior Jesus Christ. Just look at David Justice - the commentator in this video - himself. I am sorry about the very bad audio!
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
I inadvertantly clicked "remove" on a very nice comment from a visitor which I wanted to send a reply to. Please accept my apologies for my mistake as your words were very inspirational.
I will try to be more careful. Many people have commented on this video and I need to do more to encourage this feedback, all of which is great.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
Beautiful painting...talented man. Although I'm not sure one could actually SEE Christ and remain standing but would fall on our faces in His presence, it is a beautiful thought and painting. TO KREATIVEKITTY3, please remember that how you present yourself as a Christian reflects on the rest of us...your language is not in keeping with Ephesians 4:29.
joonbug1000 2 years ago
please instruct. I am sorry if I have offended you in any way with my commentary. We are still trying to raise an additional $200 so that this painting can leave the Pheasant Run Resort and get on the road to help us spread the blessings of our Lord's Gospel message which is rooted in freedom and liberty.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
beautiful painting ....How much are they?
God lives on in the hearts of mankind..he is our only salvation.
I do not fear my God thing, I respect it! I am a christian and I am ok with you not being a believer. That is your right, as mine is mine!
dkhayward 2 years ago
love the painting love the vid sugestion to the person who put the time in taking it you need to invest in a camera that can support a wireless mic or a camera that has a condencer mic on it but over all not a bad shoot man
rivtoolfan 2 years ago
What many of us Christians forget about, is to not throw stones at eachother. Our actions should speak for our faith.
For example, the power of a smile that comes from having the faith that everything will be okay and happens for a reason, will shine through. You will make someone else's shitty day better, by simply smiling at them and genuinely wishing them a good day.
By far, actions speak louder than words!
kreativekitty3 2 years ago
your god better than my god? Oh MY GOD!
sumpolo 2 years ago
I can see Paul McCartney...Where are the other 3?
Grizzmeister2 2 years ago
"Hell is truth known too late" - J.C. Ryle
tambrateer 2 years ago
Is this a copy of the painting? It's really small compared to the original.. and too bad you can hardly hear what David Justice is saying..
berkelusa 2 years ago
yes, it's a copy of the original. this copy costs $500 framed.
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
well all you people who are NON BELIEVERS and scoffers.... you will find out for sure one day - as for ME... I will continue to TRUST GOD and believe and continue to ask for his help and guidance for our nation as well as myself.
loreep704 2 years ago
AMEN!
wyliesnyder 2 years ago
good luck with that, your going to need it
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
Founding fathers were deists not Christians. The degree of common sense and ration thinking in the US has gone downhill ever since to where it is now.
hagbard72 2 years ago
This is the truth - seek God today while you can....you will answer to him soon and wish you had known his way!
sammycourtney 2 years ago
thank you sammy for the comments! Merry Christmas!
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
Same old threat , god is a fraud.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
of course you will realize how brilliant your statement is at the moment you take your last breath.. I really trust and pray you will come to the knowledge of your error before that time, mcgaugh57
ppchute50 2 years ago
Seems unlikely, your god thing would have to land in a space ship on my front yard before I would believe.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
@mcgaugh57 How bout He lands you in front of His throne? It is beyond my comprehension that someone, anyone, can look around at the beauty (there is still some left) in this world and think it was all the result of some cosmic primodeal accident. If you're right and us believers are wrong, when we die, no big deal. But if we're right and you're wrong, when we die, you're in alot of trouble.
brettt777 2 years ago
Hahahahaha just makes me chuckle. All you people ever have is the threat of burning in hell. You live in fear of a pretend god. I choose not to.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
Thanks to the wisdom of our Founding Fathers, you have the right to believe in any or no religion with no persecution. The difference between what you believe and what I believe is that if I'm wrong, I'll never know the difference. On the other hand, if you're wrong...well, you get the picture.
mizcebe 2 years ago
Well I get the picture that all you believers. Only have the threat of burning in hell as a reason to believe. Kind of sad to live in fear of your god thing.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
If you think that the threat of eternal damnation is the reason we believe, then you really don't understand. Faith in God doesn't bring sadness, it brings hope and joy to the believer. My husband of 42 years has terminal cancer. Our faith sustains us because it gives us hope. Sadness comes from humanity, not from God. I respect your belief in nothing, but perhaps you can explain to me why many so atheists seem to feel threatened by my faith? I don't deride your belief why must you
mock mine?
mizcebe 2 years ago
Maybe if you did not threaten me with burning in hell I would be more tolerant of your faith.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
I'm truly sad that you think anyone can threaten you with hell (even though I know that some Christians think they can). I cannot make eternal judgement on anyone. I can't see into their hearts and souls nor know the crosses they may bear or what influences may have led them to where they may be. Only God can do that. You and I are totally in control of our own eternal destiny by the choices we make. My job is to love my neighbor not to condemn him. There were no qualifiers on that commandment.
mizcebe 2 years ago
Pathetic! You just didn't get the religious foundation that you needed as a child in order for you to get through life as a happy person, you are a sad man and you missed out on a very wonderful thing, "FAITH", or as you put it "my God thing", only you didn't even have the respect to capitalize the name of GOD.
macenas4446 2 years ago
As a child I was forced to go to church by my parents who believe in a pretend god. Faith in words written by men ? Going to take one hell of lot more then that or the threat of hell. For me to see the light.
mcgaugh57 2 years ago
no but u couldent become a state if you didnt have schools which it was requred to teach about god and they did have a congresanul sunday service at dc for a long time
eredy 2 years ago
On day, every knee will bow & every tongue shall confess Jesus as LORD. He IS King of kings & LORD of lords, whether you beleive in Him or not. Be smart, accept Him as saviour & save your soul from the depths of hell.
jalinaandmarly 2 years ago 3
@jalinaandmarly You said it all right there!
pamt
pamscottt 2 years ago
thanks for the comment! Amen!
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
Uhhh, WHERE in our constitution does it SAY,"Separation of Church and State."
What line, what paragraph?
The only person(s) who believe in separation of church and state are those who have not walked our nations monuments and courts that have definitive proof that there IS NO separation of church and state.
There...I give you a nation full of monuments as proof...where's yours?
Satans....get thee behind us!
TopazNot 2 years ago
Amen.
Dreajo06 2 years ago 2
This is not in constituion, but the term is from Jefferson....used frequently in his leters to Adams and others.
Your statement is ignorant and illfounded. If you want to live in a theocracy please move to Iran. Separation of church and state protects both church and state....its not a Christian vs Atheist issue..
david4602 2 years ago
where is the separation of church and state? that is what this country was founded on .
rcherasaro 2 years ago
There is no separation of church and state anywhere in the U.S. constitution. It was gotten from a letter from Jefferson, addressing the concerns of a church. It means that the church will not be ruled or controlled by the government. Not the other way around.
thesaithproject 2 years ago 3
it also means that the church shall not rule the government. how quickly we forget how jfk was criticized for being a catholic.''could he keep his religious ways OUT of his governing.i wonder how Christians would feel if we elected a Buddhist as president?i wonder why all this religious thought goes into a country born by religious freedom ?
rcherasaro 2 years ago
thesaithproject...that is NOT what Jefferson meant. Read his biography from Hitchens. The founders were deists...had faith in God but clearly not Yahweh or Jesus, except potentially Franklin.
Your post implies that churn can control government!!???
david4602 2 years ago
If you'll do some reading, you will find that our founders never mentioned [Jesus] they only used the word 'Creator', and 'God', thus keeping to the tenent for Freedom OF Religion. [There were Jewish Patriots too.] They were very clear that they believed the law to be Natural Law - from the Creator of all Nature - God.
Nor did they ever use the word democracy to describe the Republican form of government they established.
larkwick 2 years ago 9
Yes Long Live the King. Yes He is Lord of all and King of Kings The Son of the Living God.
Olivia Holley
777zealoh 2 years ago 9
Amen!!
smartbandwidth 2 years ago
@777zealoh But are we not all children of God?, and may I ask, do you own slaves and do you beat them like Jesus suggested you do? May I ask is this a Godly action?
chakrachaser 1 year ago
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too bad mcNOTon didnt depict jesus in his true skin color either...
@ jimmydore: AAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA im friggin rollin, man! ah man lol
scotamiran 2 years ago
I'm sure glad that you were there to verify Jesus skin color.......
Drumboy5165 2 years ago
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Too bad jesus didn't care enough to provide you with decent audio. Whats with Jesus these days?
jimmydore 2 years ago
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Too bad "jesus" has long hair in this painting...a real depiction of the Son will not have long hair. You will see when Yahshua returns.
MoabWoody 2 years ago
WHO??
jimmydcap 2 years ago
Yahshua, the Hebrew name of jesus, His real name. The letter J is only 500 years old, so 2000 years ago when he walked, that couldn't have been his name. Research it.
MoabWoody 2 years ago