The UN Teaches Israel a Lesson in "Good Behavior"

[MrFalangist]

he does UN stand for united nazi's ?

[MaxKantar]

Fair enough, but why is this event even significant? Doesn't Israel receive a massive amount of extremely sophisticated weaponry from the United States? Didn't Israel use that weaponry to murder 300 children last winter? Why are we not discussing ways in which the international community can intercept these weapons? Why are Lebanese and Palestinians not allowed to seek and receive military aid in their struggles as well, especially considering the blockade of Gaza and occupation of the WB?

[mbrown0315]

Wow, lots to respond to here. Have you watched any of my other videos? I recommend the following: "Two State Solution...," "Post-Cast Lead," and "The PLO was on record... ."

[mbrown0315]

But just a quick reply to one of your questions...

You're right, we should be discussing ways in which the international community can intercept these weapons. It must be exceptionally frustrating for international onlookers to see Hezbollah doing this even as the UN recognized in 2000 that Israel has fully met its obligation to withdraw from Lebanon. It must be even more frustrating to see that the UN's relatively hygienic tactics are hopelessly ineffective at curbing this smuggling.

[LSRochon]

2000 is long time ago:

.With U.S. backing, Israel also continued its terrorist atrocities and other crimes in Gaza and the West Bank -- in some cases, perhaps, in an attempt to induce Hamas to violate its embarrassing cease-fire, so that Israel could respond in "self-defense" NYT '06

[mbrown0315]

2000 is not a long time ago. 1967 is a long time ago. Does that make Resolution 242 irrelevant? See my video on the ceasefire: watch?v=ij1v_U8MAWo

[LSRochon]

Israel are not signatories to the NPT but have nukes nontheless and chemical weapons...applying the same standards Israel is capable and has used illegal weapons on civilians....it's harder to look in the mirror.

[mbrown0315]

It's important to have a qualitative military advantage in a hostile neighborhood.

[LSRochon]

@mbrown0315 It is even more politically important to Avoid an Apartheid State.

[Acunga]

I said this like 1000 times, UN MUST be destroyed, this is a prosilamic, antidemocratic, anti-human organization that helps Islam to destroy Izrael.Espesially the FOOL Williams

[petersz98]

The Zionist Third Reich must be destroyed!

Israel = Fascist state

Israel = Apartheid state

Zionist War Criminals must be tried at the Hague starting with the Zionist Der Fuhrer Benjamin Netenyahu.

(Goldstone should be Prosecutor)

[SilverAtta]

Its simply a scapegoat issue.

There are very very few jews in the world, in comparison to muslim and christian faiths. Therefore it is easy to discriminate against/demonize them. The UN is made up of a majority of muslim nations, they work together and majority rules make UN decisions. This is why the UN hates Israel against all rational thought.

[mbrown0315]

I agree that the influence of the Muslim nations in the UN often produces a very blatant and despicable bias against Israel.

[Kurtlane]

The UN are not good-intentioned people. They are quite capable of finding smuggled weapons when they want to.

It's just that they don't want to.

The UN are just a bunch of Jew-haters. Which does not mean that their hatred is "zoological," i.e. based on hatred itself. It might just as well be for economic reasons, cooperation with the all-important Arab oil states, geopolitical games, etc. But Jew-hatred for these reasons is still Jew-hatred.

The world is one giant Jew-hater.

[mbrown0315]

While I do believe that Jew-hatred remains a problem today, I do not think that the "world is one giant Jew-hater." People are entirely capable of making arguments against Israel (its policies and even its existence as a Jewish State) without wishing harm upon Jews. In my discussions and debates, I've met many people who are genuinely intelligent and compassionate. Their disagreements with me often stem from general naivete, misinformation, and/or differing philosophical starting points

[Kurtlane]

I am not saying that all people are Jew-haters. Many, maybe most people in the world are not.

However, it's as if they don't exist. They play no role is decision-making. I will be forever grateful to the good people who saved Jews during the Holocaust, and to those who saved us in other atrocities, and to save one life is to save the world; but in the overall scheme of things they didn't make the difference.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Jan Karski met with Roosevelt and received no support for his efforts to stop the Holocaust. The Evian conference was a fig leaf. The people who are not antisemitic are not united, not organized, have other concerns, and mean nothing politically.

As for Israel-bashers, there are a few (very few) who are naive. They are easily persuaded. But the overwhelming majority is full of hatred for at least the 6 million who currently live in Israel.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

As for different starting points, I cannot accept the starting point that Jews are not human beings or should be treated as such. To me, that's already Jew-hatred.

Look around: everything has been subverted by Jew-hatred in its modern version of anti-Zionism.

[LSRochon]

It's an irrelavent topic design to take you away from the issue....that in which War Crimes are being committed...anyone can understand that.

[Kurtlane]

Right, LSRochon. Whenever a Jew sneezes, all Jews are accused of war crimes. But when Jews are killed, it's just normal, hunky-dory.

When Hamas lobs rockets into Israel, that's what.. a gesture of peace? When Hezbollah crosses the border, kidnaps and murders Israeli border guards, that's what.. kisses?

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

What ridiculous nonsense have I heard to justify terrorizing Jews: "Those rockets don't have explosive charges, they are imprecise, Palestinian grandmas knit them sitting in their easy chairs." Same with Hebollah "operations." But underneath all this nonsense one can easily see the saame old ugly logic: these rockets and actions are OK because they target Jews.

Under the new names hides the same old crap: people are people, but Jews... who do they think they are, human beings?

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

When murder of Jews becomes relevant, when murderers of Jews are accused of war crimes instead of being paraded as freedom fighters, perhaps I will rethink my attitude. Not until then.

[LSRochon]

GOLDSTONE.

:)

[Kurtlane]

LSRochon, now from a single sentence you are down to a single word.

Goldstone what?

I know, you mean judge Goldstone and his report. You might want to read:

Alan Dershowitz, THE CASE AGAINST THE GOLDSTONE REPORT: A STUDY IN EVIDENTIARY BIAS, 27/01/10

also "GOLDSTONE'S GAZA REPORT" by Richard Landes in MERIA Journal

2 parts:

A FAILURE OF INTELLIGENCE

and

A MISCARRIAGE OF HUMAN RIGHTS

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

But I know creatures like LSRochon. He will just switch to

"whatabout Israeli attack on Lebanon?"

"whatabout that apartheid wall?"

"whatabout Palestinian water rights?"

"whatabout Paleo women giving birth in taxi cabs?"

"whatabout organs stolen by Israelis?"

"whatabout lions Israelis set against Palestinians?"

"whatabout rabid dogs trained to attack Arabs?"

"whatabout that aphrodesiac Israeli chewing gum?"

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

"whatabout that Israeli woman who stripped stark naked , climbed on top of a tank, lured Paleo boys within shooting distance, then took a machine gun out of her private parts and shot them dead?"

"whatabout Jews eating babies or drinking blood?"

"whatabout Jews turning into hyenas or vampire bats?"

and a whole bunch of other whatabouts.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

It's the same familiar story: If we didn't crucify Jesus, then we poisoned wells, or plot against the king, or try to take over the world, or we are all communists, or capitalists, or oppress Palestinians, and anyway there is no smoke without fire.

Yes, there is smoke without fire. It's called "smoke and mirrors."

[oldjoe5]

If you are citing Dershowitz as a source to actually learned something about the Middle East you are an effin joke

[Kurtlane]

Hello old Jew-hater.

You haven't croaked yet?

One day you will. And we'll be around.

Am Israel Chai!

[oldjoe5]

Kurt: You raised the following questions:

"whatabout Israeli attack on Lebanon?"

"whatabout that apartheid wall?"

"whatabout Palestinian water rights?"

"whatabout Paleo women giving birth in taxi cabs?"

"whatabout organs stolen by Israelis?"

How about some answers. Do you have any answer other than calling someone a Jew-hater?

I didn't think so

[Kurtlane]

oldjoe5, you don't deserve any replies.

Go to hell.

[oldjoe5]

@Kurtlane. Tell us more about Albert Speer

[77Merav]

oldjoe5 : did you ever hard about the massacre that your brothers to Islam did to the brothers of Christ in the 70s in Lebanon?

Do you know what is the core of the conflict?

How about reading History for a change insted of Mein Kampf in the Islamic version ( Mufti of Jerusalem)?

[oldjoe5]

@77Merav . The core of the conflict is that the Zionists take arab lands by any means necessary to make it into a "Jewish State". This is racist, unethical, immoral, and illegal

[77Merav]

Learn Your History, No one take Arab Leands !on the contrary The Muslims Took and want to take Leands which doent belong to them- DAR AL ISLAM!!

Yes I'm Israeli and I'm Jewish and Zionist, Kiss Mt ass! Israel is our promised land!

[oldjoe5]

What you are is a racist dupe.

[77Merav]

No I'm nationalistic ! find the different, "genius".

[Kurtlane]

LSRochon, you remiond me of what Albert Speer, one of the main Nazi leaders, said:

"The technique of propaganda is to simplify complex ideas. And once you simplify them - repeat them. Repeat them. Repeat them."

You have simplified it down to a single phrase, and now you are repeating it.

You also remind me of how back in first half of 20th century Harvard University considered admitting Jews for the first time. One of the members was against it, because "Jews cheat."

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

- But gentiles also cheat, - he was told. - Irrelevant! We are talking about Jewish cheating!

You too are yelling "irrelevant" at stuff that's very relevant.

Right. What's done to Jews is always irrelevant. What Jews do is always a war crime. Even when Jews don't do it.

I'd say shame, but you don't know the meaning of the word.

[oldjoe5]

Kurt: "Albert Speer, one of the main Nazi leaders, said "The technique of propaganda is to simplify complex ideas. And once you simplify them - repeat them. Repeat them. Repeat them.""

You think Speer said this?

Once the Jews got into places like Harvard they immediately set about excluding non Jews.

[Kurtlane]

oldjoe5: "Once the Jews got into places like Harvard they immediately set about excluding non Jews."

oldjoe in his element. I'm sure Jews also slaughtered them and drank their blood. (sarcasm)