Makes me very emotional to see a Venom powered by a very early DH Ghost engine (probably built around 1950), still capable of taking off under difficult conditions and thousand of miles from home. Kudos to all concerned - original designers (no doubt long gone), engineers, maintenance chaps and, definitely to brave and skilled pilots of today.
I'm from switzerland and I'm only 17 years old. My gran father always tell me about this plane. Every time he listen to this, he almost cry for the joy. I think that you have good care for our old planes. Thanks and congratulation ;)
The smoke is from the start cartridge. In simple terms it's a huge brass shotgun shell, which is fired to spin the starter. If I remember there are two shells chambered, and then you reload with new cartridges.
xfire, two different pilots left Middlebury in the Venom, but Dean was the only one to bring them back in, if I recall correctly. There was little margin for error, but it was accomplished numerous times. No such thing as a balanced runway.
the venom was actually quiet dangerous in hight speed. i remember we had a few accidents and near accidents when i high speed diving the plane suddenly made a salto.
Jonesy97 - The speed brakes are a separate panel that is hinged so that it deploys both above and beneath the wing. The flaps are conventional split type but also include brackets inside to hold a few spare start cartridges!
I remember in Ambri clearing the snow from the runway by using the hot air from the jet, the front wheel would be jacked up on a trailer and driven round the airbase by a tractor.
A super little fighter, and one I am currently researching. Just remember that these were the last of the "throwaway" jets, and after just 750 hours of heavy squadron usage you were looking for a new one. Be especially aware of fatigue cracks around the wheel well cutouts, quite a few were lost to wings folding in flight because of fatigue cracking.
@WinchesterRanger , during the late seventies and early eighties, several Swiss Venoms MK I and MK IV were used as stationary small artillery targets for the purpose of damage-repair crew training (operation Lindi). Some were badly damaged, but flew again after repair. It should be possible to track these birds down by serial number administration research.
I wonder if there are still some flying 'Lindis' around? I assume that their 'battle wounds' do not add to their structural integrity.
@poodleslayer - The purchasers of the Venom's would always get a supply of start cartridges, with the typical option to purchase more. I am not aware of anyone running out of them, but my assumption would be eventually they will be "reloaded".
quite an impressive little fighter. beautiful in design and from what i have been told a pleasure to fly. the start up is really dramatic on top of it.
Wow! What a gem of a video - thanks a million! Spectacular start by the black Venom. Very gutsy pilots to take off from a snow covered runway. As I look out of my window here in TN, the ground is covered in snow. Now - where did I put my DH Venom.......... ? Ah yes, now I remember, it was 18" wingspan and powered by a Jetex 50.
Yes, the start cartridge looks like a huge shotgun shell, but all brass. The clicking you hear prior to start is testing the ignitors so it'll fire off after the start cartridge spins it up. A very cool start, even after seeing it 100 times.
Thanks for posting this. It was great watching this video. New Zealand operated 2 sqns of De Havilland Venoms plus the Venoms older brother the DH Vampire in the 50's and 60's.
Makes me very emotional to see a Venom powered by a very early DH Ghost engine (probably built around 1950), still capable of taking off under difficult conditions and thousand of miles from home. Kudos to all concerned - original designers (no doubt long gone), engineers, maintenance chaps and, definitely to brave and skilled pilots of today.
Gruntol5 1 month ago
Crazy What about ASD!!!
credera 4 months ago
I'm from switzerland and I'm only 17 years old. My gran father always tell me about this plane. Every time he listen to this, he almost cry for the joy. I think that you have good care for our old planes. Thanks and congratulation ;)
TheHorizonhobby 5 months ago
4:46 It's Adam West's Batmobile lol
MasterJericho85 5 months ago
now this is so cool - just no words for it - I'd love to have a licence to fly one of those!
shitNameAlert 6 months ago
1:58 WONDERFULL RAM TRUST WHISTLE!!
FASTBOOBS 7 months ago
The smoke is from the start cartridge. In simple terms it's a huge brass shotgun shell, which is fired to spin the starter. If I remember there are two shells chambered, and then you reload with new cartridges.
pebinc 7 months ago
@pebinc CAN YOU SEND ME A LINK WHERE I CAN FIND AN IMAGE OF THIS KIND OF STARTING SYSTEM? tHANKS
FASTBOOBS 7 months ago
@pebinc HI, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT DO YOU MEAN "start cartridge"
FASTBOOBS 7 months ago
0:56 why this black smoke? from where it comes from?
FASTBOOBS 7 months ago
xfire, two different pilots left Middlebury in the Venom, but Dean was the only one to bring them back in, if I recall correctly. There was little margin for error, but it was accomplished numerous times. No such thing as a balanced runway.
pebinc 8 months ago
That runway was a one way ticket then! I have never seen anything like it.
xfire7 8 months ago
the venom was actually quiet dangerous in hight speed. i remember we had a few accidents and near accidents when i high speed diving the plane suddenly made a salto.
rockangel1967 8 months ago
Jonesy97 - The speed brakes are a separate panel that is hinged so that it deploys both above and beneath the wing. The flaps are conventional split type but also include brackets inside to hold a few spare start cartridges!
pebinc 9 months ago
Was I seeing that right? It looked like on the black jet, the flaps can also be used tilted vertically as a speedbrake or spoiler of some sort?
jonesy97 9 months ago
I remember in Ambri clearing the snow from the runway by using the hot air from the jet, the front wheel would be jacked up on a trailer and driven round the airbase by a tractor.
Must have been the late 1970s or early 1980s.
Braun30 1 year ago
LOOKS LIKE DEAN MARTIN!
lvkeith83 1 year ago
A super little fighter, and one I am currently researching. Just remember that these were the last of the "throwaway" jets, and after just 750 hours of heavy squadron usage you were looking for a new one. Be especially aware of fatigue cracks around the wheel well cutouts, quite a few were lost to wings folding in flight because of fatigue cracking.
WinchesterRanger 1 year ago
@WinchesterRanger , during the late seventies and early eighties, several Swiss Venoms MK I and MK IV were used as stationary small artillery targets for the purpose of damage-repair crew training (operation Lindi). Some were badly damaged, but flew again after repair. It should be possible to track these birds down by serial number administration research.
I wonder if there are still some flying 'Lindis' around? I assume that their 'battle wounds' do not add to their structural integrity.
studioROT 1 year ago
Great plane and a unique sound. Nice to see and hear the cartridge start in operation. Makes a modern air compressor start sound bland!
Great video, thank you for posting.
iamthefatstig 1 year ago
So can black powder starter cartridges be purchased, or do the owners of jet warbirds that require them have to "load their own?"
poodleslayer 1 year ago
@poodleslayer - The purchasers of the Venom's would always get a supply of start cartridges, with the typical option to purchase more. I am not aware of anyone running out of them, but my assumption would be eventually they will be "reloaded".
pebinc 1 year ago
quite an impressive little fighter. beautiful in design and from what i have been told a pleasure to fly. the start up is really dramatic on top of it.
nomadnametab 1 year ago
wow thats awsome
dan68543 1 year ago
Very wonderfuel aircraft !!
Tiramisator 1 year ago
Great clip but can someone explain the black smoke at 0:58? Sorry am a novice with this aircraft.
eezy1972 2 years ago
It's smoke from the starter-cartridge that is used to start up (spin up) the turbine.
TurbineWeert 2 years ago
Wow! What a gem of a video - thanks a million! Spectacular start by the black Venom. Very gutsy pilots to take off from a snow covered runway. As I look out of my window here in TN, the ground is covered in snow. Now - where did I put my DH Venom.......... ? Ah yes, now I remember, it was 18" wingspan and powered by a Jetex 50.
Gruntol5 2 years ago
Start Cartridge spins the starter, which if I remember right has lots of mass, which spins the turbine. Kurt maybe able to confirm this.
pebinc 2 years ago
Does the cordite cartridge impinge directly on the turbine, or does it spin up something else first.
This has always confused me, because the cartridge burn is so short and the compressor wind up takes so long.
Awesome video, and a grat little jet by the way.
Are the ejection seats live?
WinchesterRanger 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for posting this. During cold war period in Europe I worked as a mechanic in the compulsory militaray service in Switzerland.
kurtmarkus999 2 years ago
Can you explain how the start sequence works with the cordite starter.
WinchesterRanger 2 years ago
yes,gun powder start
horitson 2 years ago
Are these started by some kind of cartridge? Seems like I heard something about that---does anybody know?
hoggdawn 2 years ago
Yes, the start cartridge looks like a huge shotgun shell, but all brass. The clicking you hear prior to start is testing the ignitors so it'll fire off after the start cartridge spins it up. A very cool start, even after seeing it 100 times.
pebinc 2 years ago
wow thanks for posting, I remember when dean brought them to VT.
n3njeff 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. It was great watching this video. New Zealand operated 2 sqns of De Havilland Venoms plus the Venoms older brother the DH Vampire in the 50's and 60's.
ngamo52Nick 2 years ago