These aren't perfectly accurate calculations because they only calculated them in 2d and the pellet will have a very small amount of motion in a third plane.
i would have purchased one, but they are EXPENSIVE i would rather peg someone with a rubber grenade lol. for the price. although one day i will buy this
please answer this question: so the fastest speed is 137fps: is that with .12's or .2's??? again i would appreciate it if you could answer this, cuz this determines whether i buy this or not
Well as anyone with intelligence could tell you, a .12 will always be faster than a .2.
However, the energy of the projectile will be the same regardless of weight. It's like the difference of getting shot with a .50 round and a .308 round with the same amount of powder. The .50 round will be slower, but hit just as hard as the faster .308 round.
A .12g bb will accelerate much faster than a .2g, consequently being ejected at a higher velocity. However, there would be no difference in energy because of the difference in mass.
That's just physics. It makes no difference, .12 or .2.
Again true, but the OP asked whether the FPS in the video was measured with the .12g or .20g bb. If it was the .12g bb, that would mean that the grenade has significantly less power than the .20g.
However, it is obvious that they did use the .20g bbs to measure the velocity.
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us Valve fanboys will contact valve to sue this damn company for imitating their portal game and trailers, say bye bye to yur moneyz airsoft innovations
Actually, Airsoft Innovations messed up on their physics when they calculated the FPS. They calculations are fine for the setup they have in the video but in the field, that grenade is going to be spinning, not stationary. So some of the energy that those BB's have in this video would be going into rotating the grenade. The average FPS can still be calculated though, you just need to take into account the angular momentum of the grenade. But they didn't do that. So the real FPS is lower.
The grenade seems to do one full revolution in 6 seconds on the first video. That works out to one spin in 0.06s in real time (video playback 30f/s vs. record 3000f/s). This gives rise to a rotation rate of about 16.7rev/s. I'm looking at rotation for the period that pellets are being ejected, not at the end when the grenade has been further spun up dumping the remainder of the gas charge.
The grenade is about 4cm diameter between the centre of each opposite bb passage which give an active circumference of ~12.5cm.
This gives rise to a surface speed of about 208cm/s = 2.08m/s = 7fps
Good catch York. About 7fps should be deducted from the velocity for a fixed grenade.
I was actually hoping this wouldn't be noticed. I tried showing the accounting of velocity loss in that video, but it seemed to overcomplicate the presentation for a 5% change.
The grenade's mass is a fair bit heavier than the pellet charge which gives a high reaction mass compared to the pellets. Conservation of momentum would have the grenade rotating at a significantly slower surface speed to balance the momentum transfer given to the lighter pellets flying out the sides.
If some people don't feel 330 fps from 5 meters , than how will they feel 67 fps from 2 meters ? I think factory should have made it stronger... 3 times stronger.
doesnt this shit remind you of portal...or is it just me?... lol
djtes90 9 months ago 3
@djtes90 i was thinking the same thing
spritegamer 8 months ago
Aperture Science...
ilovepinkfloydyay 1 year ago
what is the back ground music called?
anthony24322342 1 year ago
@yoyoyoman666 yeah and you just reminded me how you have terrible grammar.
MalarkyMan15 1 year ago
The first fps measurement is rounded. It's actually 63.87 fps.
What else are you going to do late at night on a computer eh? :D
XxDIGITALSNIPERxX 1 year ago
These aren't perfectly accurate calculations because they only calculated them in 2d and the pellet will have a very small amount of motion in a third plane.
narnianhero 1 year ago
this one for paintball would be nice
chris27011986 1 year ago
in this and 3 voice isnt anymore like portal
mirotzu99 1 year ago
Those math equasions are hard to follow along with
Kyaris 1 year ago
LoL Portal style =D
AirsoftHardballDK 1 year ago
portal much?
videoduds123 1 year ago
what happens when its on its side, like it will be about 99% of the time when it hits the ground?!
xGothimox 1 year ago
wats wit the liquid stuff?
fighter4111 1 year ago
what happens if it falls on its side?
muffinsNsausage 1 year ago
yep just refill the bbs and gas
Tactical012 1 year ago
shotgun shot more bbs then mini gun :\
ILOVERICE12 1 year ago
yes
CrazyGamer011 1 year ago
0:07-0:26, did u say nigga moment
zp1944 2 years ago
u fail at copying portal
neonisthecoolest 2 years ago 2
aaaaaaaah to much math!
halomand11 2 years ago 20
good job copying portal
Lycaon43 2 years ago
good job being a little faggot
JKFeathers 2 years ago
sexy.
igotverylongname 2 years ago
so cool
noobatnothing 2 years ago
yeah!!! my last part..coming out
haoever 2 years ago
Does 0:31 remind any guys of anything?
MalarkyMan15 2 years ago 34
lol...
AUGRE12345 2 years ago
ur queer
lexmark136 2 years ago
yaa but i cant put my finger on it????
M0neym1ke210 2 years ago
lol
treeboy112 2 years ago
yes it does
Trillios 2 years ago
lol
lundholm4 2 years ago
@MalarkyMan15 HMM....... WHAT COULD THAT POSSIBLY MEAN ; )
ductape95 1 year ago
@MalarkyMan15 reminds me of the subject i hate
TheHalo911 1 year ago
@MalarkyMan15
er..... no
Razorblade033 1 year ago
@MalarkyMan15 urine?
ghostace100 1 year ago
it looks like a liquid comes out the grenade
cdsida 2 years ago
yeah. a WHOLE lot of gas has to propel it
firefox1341 2 years ago
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"with the airsoft innovations handheld fragmentation device"
you mean grenade asshole.
stop trying to make yourself sound smarter by saying useless words.
Ozzy0sbourne 2 years ago
It's a portal reference smart one.
BenjiRoss13 2 years ago
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Ozzy0sbourne 2 years ago
Idgaf what it's referencing, my point still stands.
Ozzy0sbourne 2 years ago
Do you have any idea what this commercial is trying to replicate? Or are you just to frustrated that the word 'device' is above your vocabulary?
CrispyGFX 2 years ago
learn to portal. noob.
CrazyBabyProductions 2 years ago
is it reusable
trashytuck 2 years ago
yes
dorplein62 2 years ago
whats that liqued
RMartin187 2 years ago
its a chemical called "Di carbon Dioxide" aka water
iamdudicle 2 years ago
"di carbon dioxide" would be hydrogen peroxide
ComplexSuperioritful 2 years ago
that is not water. water is H2O that is
2C2O
zxcvqwe2 2 years ago
Di hydrogen monoxide. aka H2O
supressorgrid 2 years ago
gas
Osmann45 2 years ago
i would have purchased one, but they are EXPENSIVE i would rather peg someone with a rubber grenade lol. for the price. although one day i will buy this
LevelCarnivore1 2 years ago
i failed geometry
soulsniper7 2 years ago
haha i likw the animations
XhadoFrog 2 years ago
what are these grenades for any ways?
Diablo1172 2 years ago
airsoft, its like paintball but with plastic bbs and real looking guns
4tehlols 2 years ago
oh coool
Diablo1172 2 years ago
Diablo1172: What are regular grenades for?
FalconKPD 2 years ago
um the found the angles then the distance and used a D=VT equation to find the velocity of the BBs
AntichristDemoncore 2 years ago
yeah, algebra/trig
TT01Fanatic 2 years ago
SOOO MUCH MATH!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!
jonnyboiboi 2 years ago 3
not very practical on combat situation were adrenaline is pumping you cant feel the damn thing when it hit ya
sweetyvash 2 years ago
They would still be out. doesn't matter how fast its going.
stitched83 2 years ago
What's next, the Aperture Science Gravitational Explosive Device? Directs all BB pellets hurtling toward your target, even your enemies?
Aranica 2 years ago
LOL! Portal trailer ripoff
Osmann45 2 years ago 4
I still can't believe that I understood everything from 0:30 to 1:30. looks like that "math will eventually apply" thing was right=D
george77772moons 2 years ago 3
damn.... i dont think you would even feel the bbs if you were hit in the vest or something...
GaZam360 2 years ago
it would if they landed at your feet
SupaSexySnake287 2 years ago
if you think about it, it averages at about 75 FPS
now, take like 200 BB's hitting you ant 75fps at once, you'd feel it.
ninjaman632 2 years ago
well ur supost to throw it
shootermike395 3 years ago
Interesting.
FalconKPD 3 years ago
another question i forgot to ask: is there a difference in speed between using green gas and propane??
heresjohnnnyy1 3 years ago
Green gas is propane, dressed up to look fancy and epically overpriced =D
AirsoftLife 3 years ago
but what kind of bb's were used to make the top speed be 137 fps?? thats my main question
heresjohnnnyy1 3 years ago
green gas is propane with silicon in it
UTGxFTW 3 years ago
haha u joker
GREENGIANT2674 3 years ago
please answer this question: so the fastest speed is 137fps: is that with .12's or .2's??? again i would appreciate it if you could answer this, cuz this determines whether i buy this or not
heresjohnnnyy1 3 years ago
Well as anyone with intelligence could tell you, a .12 will always be faster than a .2.
However, the energy of the projectile will be the same regardless of weight. It's like the difference of getting shot with a .50 round and a .308 round with the same amount of powder. The .50 round will be slower, but hit just as hard as the faster .308 round.
Moral of the story: It makes no difference.
sandcrab132 3 years ago
True, but he was asking about the fps. A .12g bb at 137 fps will have significantly less energy than a .20g bb at similar speeds.
zed141 2 years ago
Also true. But that is obvious.
A .12g bb will accelerate much faster than a .2g, consequently being ejected at a higher velocity. However, there would be no difference in energy because of the difference in mass.
That's just physics. It makes no difference, .12 or .2.
sandcrab132 2 years ago
Again true, but the OP asked whether the FPS in the video was measured with the .12g or .20g bb. If it was the .12g bb, that would mean that the grenade has significantly less power than the .20g.
However, it is obvious that they did use the .20g bbs to measure the velocity.
zed141 2 years ago
that doesnt shoot very fast at all, I mean the grenade is way cool but for $100 i want something that someone can feel.
MRJimcoMustache 3 years ago
you are not a true fan
Jarek4 3 years ago
ug, mac's voice is so dang annoying
Jarek4 3 years ago
just came out of the 7 grade the math part i as like ahh shit i hope i dont have to learn this yet but i do
coookalo 3 years ago 5
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killeruio 3 years ago
WOW. Be more of a bitch, please...
zed141 3 years ago
lol i liked that math part
CursayerHitman 3 years ago
I hope Valve will sue whoever made this
Search for "Portal" and you will see
michaliskebab 3 years ago
ahah love the last comment on the video. Taking Trig right now and now i understand why.
xero4006 3 years ago
I new I should have payed attention to the pythagorean theorum!!!
chopperhead2011 3 years ago
I forgot to say that if the grenade got too long fuse, its gonna get thrown back!! Thats why: USE SMALL FUSE!!
cico34 3 years ago
Actually, Airsoft Innovations messed up on their physics when they calculated the FPS. They calculations are fine for the setup they have in the video but in the field, that grenade is going to be spinning, not stationary. So some of the energy that those BB's have in this video would be going into rotating the grenade. The average FPS can still be calculated though, you just need to take into account the angular momentum of the grenade. But they didn't do that. So the real FPS is lower.
konish7 3 years ago
It needs a 10 minutes timer, to be used like in the movie!!
Make commercials look real!
cico34 3 years ago
Still, it is useful when still airbourne. Gonna be like a hit-n-run rocket! AUCH!!
cico34 3 years ago
Good catch.
The grenade seems to do one full revolution in 6 seconds on the first video. That works out to one spin in 0.06s in real time (video playback 30f/s vs. record 3000f/s). This gives rise to a rotation rate of about 16.7rev/s. I'm looking at rotation for the period that pellets are being ejected, not at the end when the grenade has been further spun up dumping the remainder of the gas charge.
carltonium 3 years ago
The grenade is about 4cm diameter between the centre of each opposite bb passage which give an active circumference of ~12.5cm.
This gives rise to a surface speed of about 208cm/s = 2.08m/s = 7fps
Good catch York. About 7fps should be deducted from the velocity for a fixed grenade.
I was actually hoping this wouldn't be noticed. I tried showing the accounting of velocity loss in that video, but it seemed to overcomplicate the presentation for a 5% change.
carltonium 3 years ago
The grenade's mass is a fair bit heavier than the pellet charge which gives a high reaction mass compared to the pellets. Conservation of momentum would have the grenade rotating at a significantly slower surface speed to balance the momentum transfer given to the lighter pellets flying out the sides.
carltonium 3 years ago
can you use green gas with it? cuz to use propane u need an adapter like the green gas bottle nozzle
LilAznBoy0508 3 years ago
green gas is propane with silicon mixed in
bwit035 3 years ago
i didnt ask what green gas is i know what it is. im asking if it can use green gas.
LilAznBoy0508 3 years ago
But u said,above that u can use propane so obviously u can use green gas
bwit035 3 years ago
i asked if you "Could" with a question mark
LilAznBoy0508 3 years ago
Green gas IS propane.
oatmeeel 3 years ago
no. it most certainly is not.
thejukemaste 3 years ago
no, it actually is. all green gas is is propane with silicone oil thrown inside of it. that's why propane adapters work
Jarek4 3 years ago 2
what gave you that idea?
xxmasterchiefofahlo 2 years ago
hey do you know if .12's or .2's were used to make the speed be 137 fps? cuz im probably not gonna get it if .12's were used
heresjohnnnyy1 3 years ago
It says at the end of the vid that it's propellant is propane, dipshit.
snipey06 3 years ago
How much money will these things cost?
ComradeJamison 3 years ago
90 dollars.
Total rip off.
purplekazoos 3 years ago
yet its reusable forever, just refill the CO2 and 180 BBs
Only1337here 3 years ago
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It uses water?!?! Awesome!! The problem is its a one time use only... damn... sayang... but still a good weapon for defence or offence...:)
LOLOLOLOL
madnessgodman 3 years ago
...errm, it uses gas.
666necrobutcher666 3 years ago
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STOP TRYING TO COPY PORTAL U ASS
patter0706son 3 years ago
That is actually some neat math.
WolksVagon449 3 years ago
isn't it to weak... 67-137 fps.. IMHO noone will even feel the hit...
alfa002 3 years ago
That is a bit slow, but I think they'll feel it. It won't hurt.
WolksVagon449 3 years ago
If some people don't feel 330 fps from 5 meters , than how will they feel 67 fps from 2 meters ? I think factory should have made it stronger... 3 times stronger.
alfa002 3 years ago
The fact that they have hundreds of BBs flying at them is a pretty good giveaway of whether they're hit or not.
al3xd4gr34t 3 years ago 7
first post!!! woot, see my vids.
Timb0NZ 3 years ago