thank you for posting this. I sure miss the S-series buses. I use to own an 1985 IH/Thomas 77 pass with the DT-466 and 5 speed spicer manual. i miss cold starting that bus since i also drove it on route in 1999. i now drive an 2006 IC which is a pos i wish they still made ih thomas buses
@jminnesota If you over heat them they are done. Only bad side, other than that decent fuel mileage and power. Don't over heat the engine 220 is fatal.
I saw road side assistance jump starting a truck with one of those engines at 0F. Ran exactly like this one, complete with smoke. At 0:35 I'm surprised the engine is able to run on its own at all.
in the county i go to school in they have 3 dt466 buses that are newer models and i and they have glow plugs in them i have been told by the drivers there 03 models
yeah im pretty sure we have dt466 with glowplugs this bus probaly don't for the simple fact that its older unless our county orderd glow plugs for our buses but like i said i pretty sure some of them do im only 14 and i know alot about school buses
i just found out we do have a wait to start light on all of our buses in the county but i don't think we have glowplugs for any of the buses maybe a few iwhth glowplugs but i have one question can a bus still be plugged in if they have glow plugs because all of ours are always plugged in
our newer internationals come from the factory with a wait to start light but it never comes on if it comes on at all it would be when my driver hits the lamp check button during pretrip or during self gauge test
yes oil is blue but white smoke isnt unburnt fuel either it is burning coolant and unburnt fuel causes black smoke but since its a diesel it will smoke black anyway
It's not coolant, its fuel. All you have to do is get a whiff of it and you know its diesel smoke, its just gray. Check out my videos of a 6V92T cold start, gray smoke!
@liquidgiggles, if the engine burns oil, it be blue smoke, white smoke means the engine is cold and warming up, same way with petrols, get your facts right about the smoke color
problems with Sumter SD 2 Fleet: Thomas HDX gathering dust after engine fire up on rear glass, where engine is, BB/Int'l/Carpenter S1600(i think)break downs in cold weather,and 30 mins. inside to heat up for students in winter/fall,opposite in summer/spring,Thomas C2 warning lights going off randomly, and Thomas FS-65 break-down in cold weather, brake dust constantly. im a noob with buses, only 14 years old. thanks. jake
since you say you work on international diesels ive heard that the DT466 DT408 and DTA360 do not have glowplugs unlike the T444E international that does
That bus don't have glow plugs my dads school bus sit @ home as he can do that and i start it every school day for him and its starts hard sometimes and sound like that try starting them in 5 and lower i have to jump it most of the time!
DT466's dont use glows?? Dude, what diesel doesnt?!? I have a friend whos dad works for our bus garage and yes they do have glows. Your bus sounded like crap when you started that.
Uhhh... you need to brush up on diesel engines and diesel engines in buses. The DT466 engines have NEVER used glow plugs. No DT has whether a DT360, DT408, or DT570. Want to know other engines that don't? Cummins ISB, Cat 3208, Detroit 8.2, and the list goes on and on.
Yes the bus sounded like crap when it started, it is 20 years old, 20 degrees out and sat for 7 months. Good luck firing up a new bus and having it sound any better!
@rls1400 You're right. The DT and the Cummins do NOT use glow plugs. I believe that the 8.2L Detroit did, but I'm not sure. I know for a fact that the CAT-3116, CAT-3126, IDI, T444E, VT, and Maxxforce 7
@rls1400 You're right. The DT and the Cummins do NOT use glow plugs. I believe that the 8.2L Detroit did, but I'm not sure. I know for a fact that the CAT-3116, CAT-3126, IDI, T444E, VT, and Maxxforce 7 do
@rls1400 a new bus would not sound any better if it sat that long and you are correct a 466 doesnt use glowplugs especially newer IC Buses they have according to Matts4290 here on youtube a wait light cause of he either said it was an intake heater or grid heater dont really remember
@rls1400 a new bus would not start any better either people need to learn to read the description first you clearly stated it had not been a drive for 7 months
@killercan10, well duhh, when you 1st started the diesel engine, it will run like crap, because the diesel fuel is thick inside the injector pump and the injector, after it warms up the diesel fuel under the hood, it will run like a top, i used to have a diesel cadillac, i never plug it in in cold season and it fires right up with the glow plugs, but i let it warm up before i drive off, unless you want a cold diesel engine gives you shitty fuel mileage
I speak from personal driving experience. My 1979 DT466, and 1982-1988 S1800s did not have glow plugs. However, our 1984-1985 S1700s did.
glenlwaters 1 month ago
I can tell this bus is from New York-note the side emergency exit.
Northeastern292 2 months ago
simplified...any commonrail injected diesel does not have glow plugs
CrackinVTEC666 6 months ago
@rls1400 my magic school bus won't turn on, mind if i borrow yours?
ContrerasKiller310 8 months ago
I never understood why the exhaust pipe on a school bus goes all the way to the back of the bus. Why not just straight up, like on a semi truck?
p154831 1 year ago
thank you for posting this. I sure miss the S-series buses. I use to own an 1985 IH/Thomas 77 pass with the DT-466 and 5 speed spicer manual. i miss cold starting that bus since i also drove it on route in 1999. i now drive an 2006 IC which is a pos i wish they still made ih thomas buses
ihcs1800 1 year ago
@ihcs1800 hmm 2006 IC is a POS if its a IC CE you must have the CE200 my driver drives an 06 IC CE300 very minimal issues out of it always runs great
schindlerman96 5 months ago
I love the smell of diesel on a cold winter morning!
pizzaboy379 1 year ago
unhappy son of a bitch
Rabiesthecat 1 year ago
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jminnesota 1 year ago
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jminnesota 1 year ago
@jminnesota If you over heat them they are done. Only bad side, other than that decent fuel mileage and power. Don't over heat the engine 220 is fatal.
studpuppy69 1 year ago
oh wow, you just sold this on ebay. Nice bus, wish i could have bought it.
keanerulz25 2 years ago
I saw road side assistance jump starting a truck with one of those engines at 0F. Ran exactly like this one, complete with smoke. At 0:35 I'm surprised the engine is able to run on its own at all.
Buslover1 2 years ago
u should let it wait like 7 second b4 starting, its better 4 the bus and it gives it a chance for the fuel pump to pump
midnightrider326 2 years ago
white smoke, burning oil
and someone didnt wait for the glow poug light to go off
liquidgiggles 2 years ago
There are no glow plugs on a DT466...
rls1400 2 years ago 5
that is true be it from what i have been told on youtube is the DT466 DTA360 and DT408 dont have glowplugs just the T444E has them
schindlerman96 2 years ago
in the county i go to school in they have 3 dt466 buses that are newer models and i and they have glow plugs in them i have been told by the drivers there 03 models
kody912 2 years ago
are you positive they are DT466's if it has a wait to start light then it has glowplugs if not there is no glowplus from what i have been told
schindlerman96 2 years ago
yeah im pretty sure we have dt466 with glowplugs this bus probaly don't for the simple fact that its older unless our county orderd glow plugs for our buses but like i said i pretty sure some of them do im only 14 and i know alot about school buses
kody912 2 years ago
well none of our DT466's have a wait to start indicating that there is no glowplugs
schindlerman96 2 years ago
i just found out we do have a wait to start light on all of our buses in the county but i don't think we have glowplugs for any of the buses maybe a few iwhth glowplugs but i have one question can a bus still be plugged in if they have glow plugs because all of ours are always plugged in
kody912 2 years ago
@kody912 im not really sure about it but i do know that some of the buses wait to st
art comes on during self test
schindlerman96 1 year ago
I doubt there are glow plugs. There may be an intake heater, but I seriously doubt any glow plugs.
studpuppy69 2 years ago
You are right 03 and up came with an intake heater.
Hemihappy 2 years ago
You are correct
K1ll3rM4st3r 2 years ago
our newer internationals come from the factory with a wait to start light but it never comes on if it comes on at all it would be when my driver hits the lamp check button during pretrip or during self gauge test
schindlerman96 2 years ago
@rls1400 hahahah
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yeah and white smoke aint oil, its unburnt fuel, also the sign of a cold diesel, oil is blue
allispuller1952 2 years ago
yes oil is blue but white smoke isnt unburnt fuel either it is burning coolant and unburnt fuel causes black smoke but since its a diesel it will smoke black anyway
carmasterextreme 2 years ago
It's not coolant, its fuel. All you have to do is get a whiff of it and you know its diesel smoke, its just gray. Check out my videos of a 6V92T cold start, gray smoke!
studpuppy69 2 years ago
@liquidgiggles, if the engine burns oil, it be blue smoke, white smoke means the engine is cold and warming up, same way with petrols, get your facts right about the smoke color
SpiritsoftheWolf 1 year ago
it doesnt even sound like a dt 466
zusca159 2 years ago
WHATS UP WITH THE SUN although ive seen it like that
thecarexpert18 2 years ago
WOOO HOO YOU GOT IT STARTED
kirkywood1 2 years ago
Wow i havent seen one like this in good shape i love your bus
E22Videos 2 years ago
problems with Sumter SD 2 Fleet: Thomas HDX gathering dust after engine fire up on rear glass, where engine is, BB/Int'l/Carpenter S1600(i think)break downs in cold weather,and 30 mins. inside to heat up for students in winter/fall,opposite in summer/spring,Thomas C2 warning lights going off randomly, and Thomas FS-65 break-down in cold weather, brake dust constantly. im a noob with buses, only 14 years old. thanks. jake
JAYCUB912 3 years ago
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JAYCUB912 3 years ago
1:30 Black Hole Sun? Ive worked on International diesels .. never came across one that has no glowplugs. (shrugs)
Marshall7302 3 years ago
since you say you work on international diesels ive heard that the DT466 DT408 and DTA360 do not have glowplugs unlike the T444E international that does
schindlerman96 2 years ago
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mtheis85 3 years ago
That bus don't have glow plugs my dads school bus sit @ home as he can do that and i start it every school day for him and its starts hard sometimes and sound like that try starting them in 5 and lower i have to jump it most of the time!
backsongs 3 years ago
There are no glow plugs on a DT466. And skodas I didn't rev it since it was not warmed up, don't want to blow up the engine.
rls1400 3 years ago
DT466's dont use glows?? Dude, what diesel doesnt?!? I have a friend whos dad works for our bus garage and yes they do have glows. Your bus sounded like crap when you started that.
killercan10 3 years ago
Uhhh... you need to brush up on diesel engines and diesel engines in buses. The DT466 engines have NEVER used glow plugs. No DT has whether a DT360, DT408, or DT570. Want to know other engines that don't? Cummins ISB, Cat 3208, Detroit 8.2, and the list goes on and on.
Yes the bus sounded like crap when it started, it is 20 years old, 20 degrees out and sat for 7 months. Good luck firing up a new bus and having it sound any better!
rls1400 3 years ago
cat c3208 dunt have them and starts better than most that do
Leemathis 3 years ago
@rls1400 You're right. The DT and the Cummins do NOT use glow plugs. I believe that the 8.2L Detroit did, but I'm not sure. I know for a fact that the CAT-3116, CAT-3126, IDI, T444E, VT, and Maxxforce 7
aeastman16 5 months ago
@rls1400 You're right. The DT and the Cummins do NOT use glow plugs. I believe that the 8.2L Detroit did, but I'm not sure. I know for a fact that the CAT-3116, CAT-3126, IDI, T444E, VT, and Maxxforce 7 do
aeastman16 5 months ago
@rls1400 a new bus would not sound any better if it sat that long and you are correct a 466 doesnt use glowplugs especially newer IC Buses they have according to Matts4290 here on youtube a wait light cause of he either said it was an intake heater or grid heater dont really remember
schindlerman96 3 months ago
@rls1400 a new bus would not start any better either people need to learn to read the description first you clearly stated it had not been a drive for 7 months
schindlerman96 3 weeks ago
@killercan10, well duhh, when you 1st started the diesel engine, it will run like crap, because the diesel fuel is thick inside the injector pump and the injector, after it warms up the diesel fuel under the hood, it will run like a top, i used to have a diesel cadillac, i never plug it in in cold season and it fires right up with the glow plugs, but i let it warm up before i drive off, unless you want a cold diesel engine gives you shitty fuel mileage
SpiritsoftheWolf 1 year ago
@killercan10 no DT has glow plugs DT466 DT360 DT408 or any DT does not have glow plugs
Bluebirdvision91 11 months ago
@killercan10 Even a series 60 doesn't have any.
WesternStar4900SA 5 months ago
did you wait for the glow plugs???
TractorWorld 3 years ago
why no reving see other bus vids
skodas 3 years ago
Great job
bluebirdvision 3 years ago 3
Awesome video.. do a few more with the cold cranking starts its awesome..
V2GEARUP 3 years ago
GREAT !! Can you pleace make one with the camera outside, so we dont her the buzzer !?
tordeg 3 years ago 2