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  • hindus keep blaming muslims and christians for their doom, when in reality, hinduism's rottenness is what made india what it is today: superstition, caste discrimination, animal worship: all the idiocies bundled into one form hinduism! no wonder india is a shithole. hindus work as slaves for gulf countries and western nations lol!!!

  • Caste system was not invented from wanting the biggest plasma screen TV. Its was humans first great attempt to change to a more civilized manner.. The labeling was weakened by westerners exploiting the system and getting people to fight which would slowly bring india backwards forever. Sad but true.

  • The Muslims and British modified the caste system hoping to enforce their ideology which is to divide and conquer India and eventually destroy Hinduism

  • If every person in india was out of the so calledf caste system and was rich... it still doesnt change the fact that there wouldnt be someone in a lower bracket of wealth be it mentally or stubborn enough again not to change with the times, free will is a much bigger law that is not considered even with arab/white/china and indians themselves fucking up the so called caste system

  • The Caste System or varna-ashrama has been one of the most misrepresented, misinformed, misunderstood, misused and the most maligned aspects of Hinduism

    Source:Search Hinduwisdom on google the website is the first search result.

  • Dalit scholar and activist Ambedkar wrote that Hinduims record for opression is nothing compared to that of Islam. He said Islam was more evil then Hinduism and he spoke out against Islams attempt to mask opression, slavery and human rights under the mask of "brotherhood"

  • THE RIGHTS OF SLAVES UNDER ISLAM

    Islam, slaves had few civil or legal rights. For example:

    a) Muslim men were allowed to have sex anytime with females slaves - Sura 4:3, 4:29, 33:49.

    b) Slaves are as helpless before their masters as idols are before God - Sura 16:77

  • Ali, who was Muhammad's son-in-law, whipped Aisha's slave in front of Muhammad to make her talk about the adultery charges against Aisha. Muhammad did not say a word to Ali about beating the female slave.

  • Tabari and Jawziyya both record this, so Islam accepts this as true."

  • "Muhammad had a number of black slaves. One of them was named 'Mahran'. Muhammad forced him to do more labor than the average man. Whenever Muhammad went on a trip and he, or his people, got tired of carrying their stuff, he made Mahran carry it. Mahran said "Even if I were already carrying the load of 6 or 7 donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load".

  • Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, a great scholar and Islamic historian says in his book "Zad al-Ma'ad", part 1, p160: "Muhammad had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more slaves then he sold. He once sold one black slave for two. His purchases of slaves were more than he sold."

  • The treatment of slaves in Islam cont..

    Hadith

    Abu Bakr) began to beat him (Bakr's slave) while the apostle of Allah was smiling and saying: "Look at this man who is in the sacred state, what is he doing?" [The note for this Hadith says "Abu Bakr beat his slave to teach him sense of responsibility."]

  • Hadith:

    "On a Man who Beats His Slave While he is in the Sacred State (wearing Ihram)."

  • Narrated Ibn Ishaq: The Ghazwa (attack upon) Uyaina bin Hisn waged against Banu Al-Anbar, a branch of Banu Tamim. The prophet sent Uyaina to raid them. He raided them and killed some of them and took some others as captives.

  • In effect, Muhammad okayed the rape of female prisoners. Hadith On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

  • Ibn Sa'd also writes that Mariyah bore Muhammad a son named Ibrahim. He died 18 months later. Sa'd writes: "If he had lived, no maternal uncle of his would have remained in bondage", p164. This shows that there were other Coptic slaves owned by the Muslims.

  • Muhammad had sexual relations with Mariyah, his Coptic black slave. Mariyah and her sister, Sirin were slaves given as gifts to Muhammad. Muhammad gave Sirin to Hasan Thabit, the poet. Ibn Sa'd says that Muhammad "liked Mariyah, who was of white complexion, with curly hair and pretty.

  • To begin with, the Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves. Here are some relevant verses:

    33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

  • However, few people in the west know about Islam and slavery. Most would be surprised that Islam authorizes the taking of slaves as spoils of war. From the days that Muhammad drew his sword to rob and conquer non-Muslims to this very day, Muslims have been taking non-Muslims, and even other black Muslims, as slaves.

  • This versefrom Koran clearly shows that Muslims believe that taking slaves in war was a God-given right. These slaves were considered 'booty' or the spoils of war. As the saying goes: to the victors go the spoils.

    23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..."

  • Islam institutionalized slavery. Muhammad began to take slaves after he moved to Medina, and had power. Slaves were usually taken in raids on nearby Arab tribes, or war, either through offensive or defensive actions. Islam allows the taking of slaves as "booty", or reward for fighting. This has led to numerous "jihads" by Muslim states and tribes to attack other non-Muslim groups and obtain slaves. However, abuses have occurred throughout history.

  • Till today, Sikhs marry with Hindus of the same caste, while they still avoid marriage with Sikhs of different castes.

    Likewise, Sikh politics is largely divided along caste lines, e.g. the Akali movement is one of Jat Sikhs, shunned by low-caste Sikhs (who are called Mazhabi Sikhs, that is, Sikhs by religion alone, e.g. former Congress minister Buta Singh) and by the higher Khatri and Arora castes to which the Gurus belonged.

  • PANCHVANISH BRAHMIN 3-1/1 I says:

    Even if a Shudra acquired wealth, he must always remain a slave. His main job is to wash the feet of the higher caste.

    TULSIDAS, A Brahmin in his Ramayana writes:

    Even if a Shudra is learned and virtuous, he should not be given respect and honor.

  • MANU, 167-272 says:

    If a Shudra arrogantly teaches Brahmins Dharma, the king shall cause hot oil to be poured into his mouth and ears.

  • PUNISHMENT FOR LOW CASTE HINDUS

    Apastambha Dharma Sutra III, 10-26, says:

    The tongue of a Shudra, who spoke evil about a BRAHMIN should be cut off A Shudra who dared to assume a position of equality with the first three castes was to be flogged. If a Shudra overheard a recitation of the Vedas, molten tin was to be poured into his ears; if he repeated the Vedas his tongue should be cut and if he remembered Vedic hymns, his body was to be torn into pieces.

  • dimaagpakav, I appriciate your effort to educate about the criminal nature of hinduism, to the viewers of this post. God Bless You.

  • ya i asked hindu friend if this true but he said things are changing

  • now that the horrors of caste is public knowledge all over the world caste hindus are coming up with all kinds of apologies to defend the caste system or straight away deny its hindu roots, every hindu is born into a caste and his caste stays with him until he dies. The untouchable or the dalit is segregated, raped, murdered, boycotted, denied land and access to credit, their huts burnt with impunity and its been going on for thousands of years all theologically justified by varna religion.

  • hahaha, - 'fusion' sounds like another idiot on a big denial trip....nice try though, sucker.

  • it is actually quite accurate in that they do not have the means to prevent the spread of illness... therefore, contact must be limited.

  • good idea, - we are gonna make it a point to stay away from YOU, 'paperclip', - because you might spread yr mental-illness to us....

  • why don't you help them?

  • I am doing that! and you???

    Its the time for all of us to cotribute,to pay back!

  • neva hurd of dis rat shit b4 wich shows hw much it has 2 do with hinduism! AND SECONDLY WITH THIS DALIT SHIT THAT IS GOING AROUND, OUR RELIGION STRICLY GOES AGAINST ILL TREATING OTHERS IT IS TEH WORST SIN, CASTE SYSEM WAS MEANT TO SHOW POSISIONS IN SOCIETY NOT TO DISCRIMINATE. DISCRIMINATION STARTED AS PEOPLE BECAME BIG HEADED, A FUCKING CULTURAL THING, STOP FUCKIN LINKIN THESE PRACTICES TO HINDUISM U FUCKHEAD!

  • Thank you! Our religion specifically says all human biengs and all living entities are EQUAL. Varna was just based on jobs and wuth the natural tendency for humans to act on ego and false pride (which is against Hinduism)they began musing everything God gave them.

    These people are just going to try and link it with Hinduism to make Hindus feel ashamed about their religion. Have faith in God and help those who suffer as it says in the Gita that selfless service is the highest of all.

  • Thank you! Our religion specifically says all human biengs and all living entities are EQUAL. Varna was just based on jobs and wuth the natural tendency for humans to act on ego and false pride (which is against Hinduism)they began musing everything God gave them.

    These people are just going to try and link it with Hinduism to make Hindus feel ashamed about their religion. Have faith in God and help those who suffer as it says in the Gita that selfless service is the highest of all.

  • We came across a BBC report about Hindus wanting more 'recognition' in the UK. We hope the Brit govt. tells this bunch of Brahmins that they should 1st start learning to RECOGNIZE THE DALITS, before they ask for anything!

  • India society is not the most racist. That prize will always go out to europeans and Diaspora (both in the past & at present time). The Oppression in India has noting to do with Race, because its a class and social struggle.

  • The Caste system is integral to hinduism. The religion divides people into 4 varna and untouchables do not have any varna. Blaming the persians or other imaginary source is false progaganda used by hindus to deflect blame and absolve themselves from their crimes against untouchables.

  • No caste is not integral to Hinduism. Yes there are four varnas mentioned but untouchables caste same later. and yes invaders such as Persians and Greeks only intensified it.

  • Then Varna System must be a Muslim or Christian thing if it is not Hindu

  • the untouchable came in all skin color as the upper cast of india (both have dark or fair skin in their group). The true is that when 1000 of year ago, Persian ,and others won battles and settle there, the conquered where then treated with no right which resulted in the indian cast system. this had happen in every conquered land from egyptian, to grecce to Rome to Persia. and lately with Hitler Germany. So this as nothing to do with skin color are some ignorant suggest.

  • the untouchable came in all skin color as the upper cast of india (both have dark or fair skin in their group). The true is that when 1000 of year ago, Persian ,and others won battles and settle there, the conquered where then treated with no right which resulted in the indian cast system. this had happen in every conquered land from egyptian, to grecce to Rome to Persia. and lately with Hitler Germany. So this as nothing to do with skin color are some ignorant suggest.

  • There is no doubt that the caste system is one of the great evils of the world. However, I do not think India is the mother of racism, nor is Europe. Racism has existed ever since humans began to distinguish their own clan as different from another. Furthermore, while it is true that the urban elite in India tend to be high caste and fair skinned, in rural villages you will find many dark skin brahmins and fair skin dalits.

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