Old Roman chant - Terra Tremuit

[CuntyMcSlutterton]

not roman. not catholic. personally a buddhist, but the music is B-E-A-Utiful

[TheProjectblah]

@TheReclusiveVoice But its formal education . Remember ethics, laws and etc change and develop. Like how we kinda left the whole idea of "an eye for an eye".The point is that we can't just expect past ppl to think like how we do.You could say other religions and institutions were more moral. But they did do a bad thing at one point and a good thing as well. Its theses mistakes we learn. Maybe somethings we do now may be considered morally wrong in the future when we think its right

[TheProjectblah]

@TheReclusiveVoice You forgot about the establishment of formal Education in the western world. The preservation of amazing art works and literature. Great Architecture from cathedrals, churches, basilicas, and many more buildings which could be found in Asia to S.America. Many contributions to science such as the big bang theory by Belgian priest Georges Lemaitre. I'm sure the Catholic church does a lot of good things too, even if they do bad things at times. :)

[ignis741]

This, I must say, is quite beautiful. Even ones without religion cannot say it isn't.

[andrewMLhero]

@TheReclusiveVoice That and pretty much all of Western religious art, including the great requiem masses, religious paintings, etc.

You secular types can't erase the Christian influence from Western history.

[ulverup]

@TheReclusiveVoice this is not gregorian chant

[goodcatholicboy]

Don't forget that when a monk or a nun takes a vow of silence, the only time they open their mouth is to praise God. Think about it... a man stood... solitary... never uttering a sound... then, he opened his mouth... and this prayer came out. It makes me shudder with ecstasy.

[SuperSoupysoup]

wow amazing!

where did you get thiz picturez?

give me a pagge!!

[ancientgriffyn]

I would like to get the vocal charts for this, does anyone know how I would go about doing that? Thanks so much!

[MrAntiReligiones]

Dear Callixtinus, This chant belong to "Chants de l' Eglise de Rome - Periode Byzantine", but not to Vêpres du jour de Pâques (VIe - XIIIe siecles)"

[Callixtinus]

@MrAntiReligiones :

You are completely right, I overlooked the album title after pasting some details. Had it corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

[ToryAnarchist]

@Callixtinus Does EO have 2 albums for Byzantine period Roman chant?

[UnchainTheW0lv3s]

can that guy sing or what?

[viriatoist]

This is Ambrosian chant.

[icasas72]

the byzantine influence ncan be listened

[hideHYDEimcoming]

@icasas72 all early catholic chants sound very distinctly middle eastern and they say music is a gateway to the soul....

[MrAntiReligiones]

Thats not Old Roman Chant. Thats belong to Le Graduel d´ Alienor de Bretagne...

[ulverup]

@MrAntiReligiones how old is it



[SteveStung]

@MrAntiReligiones Rubbish, it's Old Roman chant.

[MrAntiReligiones]

@SteveStung Yes, I was confused. It is Old Roman Chant...

[TheCosmicJam]

This is outrageously good :)

[liabatud67]

FANTASTIC!!

[rigera]

How old is the chant?Please answer.

[AllHailShemp]

@rigera From what I've found out, this style of chant dates back roughly to the time of the First Crusade in 1095.

[Phisherphish]

We should lament the fall of the high ideals espoused by Christ, that was meant to guide the faithful. Those ideals are things like tolerance, love, and resistance to tyranny. Under the many political pressures of history, the formalized church has lost it's way. This is not to say the Church hasn't had it's moments of good, but to have fallen so short of the founding ethical and moral imperatives of Christ has brought about some of the greatest human suffering in history.

[aerzengellus]

Absolutelly right. All you will be surprised if you study the true causes that gave origin to the religion of the absolute (the greek term for this: Katholicos). We have now the great chance to admire the ART of this works and be amazed by the results of the inspiration even in those dark times in the past. The Art trascends way over the repetitive and propagandistic content of all "religious expresions". It will be equally beautifull Art if the text was about Dionisios, Isis, Mythra...

[Phisherphish]

We should lament the fall of the high ideals espoused by Christ, that was meant to guide the faithful. Those ideals are things like tolerance, love, and resistance to tyranny. Under the many political pressures of history, the formalized church has lost it's way. This is not to say the Church hasn't had it's moments of good, but to have fallen so short of the founding ethical and moral imperatives of Christ has brought about some of the greatest human suffering in history.

[ammazzamoro]

@Phisherphish She hasn't lost her way. It is an impossibility. She is immaculate... this doesn't mean there are many folks within her who aren't peccable. We are all sinful and in need of a constant con-versus.

[Phisherphish]

The birth of the Church in it's form following the assumption of Christianity by Constantine has been deeply embroiled in the kind of byzantine (no pun intended) politics that marked the Roman Empire's social orders. While Christianity could be considered a profoundly political religion, with the advocating of egalitarianism and compassion, it was also rightfully wary of political organizations. It has since come to pass that the Church, Roman and otherwise, is shaped by a cruel political form.

[NonSapor]

@Phisherphish

yup. many "mainstream" churches go with the times.

[srang12345]

@RomaVictor85 well god didnt put his church there...the romans have done that..god put his church to jerusalem...from where the romans took it and the christian emporor who fought with the believe in god made rome capital of the cristian world before the germans (goths alamans) invded it nd formed the new holy roman empire of german descent or in german das heilige römische reich deutscher nation.Sacrum Romanum Imperium natio Teutonicus there has been a world war against the 3 empire.

[Moe3214]

@srang12345 God the Holy Spirit did put his Church there he led Peter there, and how providential it was! If the head was in Jerusalem, it would have been destroyed by the sword of Islam long ago I reckon. Italy is protected on 3 sides by seas and the north by mountains which makes it a natural fortress of sorts , no?

[srang12345]

@Moe3214 true..but irelevant...since the romn catholizism is based on the bible...while jesus based his beliefs on the jewish belief...and since the romans where polyteists at the time you can be pretty shure that cristianity started in jeruslem/judea...ich includs the german name JUDE-a wich means jew funny hein?it became a sort of urban revolution when the new cesarius of rome faught his battles with a cross...certenly it was new baybe wanted by god...still the vatican never was italian...

[srang12345]

@srang12345 since the ,,real" middel ages started with the fall of rome nd the new belief of the germans...who where killing evrey non believer in the holy roman empire of german descent the vatikan is an assortment of evrey european country there is today..the orders of templers( france) nights of st.john (mostly english) nd the Deutsch knights (german) started to christianise evrey country arround...and we shal rule by the fire and the sword!this is the begining of christianity as we know it..

[Rahula]

"country where God put his Church"

No, that would definitely have to be Judaea.

[rem0rt]

the Church isnt a light, but a form of control. leonardo is a genuis.

[Moe3214]

@rem0rt Who taught you that, controls you, We are all brainwashed, what matters is it in truth or lies.

[yuhgelin]

...blimey dude!....it's certainly not: grammar, punctuation or syntax is it ;). leonardo would be shocked!

But anyway, joking aside, surely it's all those things, I mean mafia, spaghetti et al, as well as chianti, mad drivers and a dodgy PM....much like other countries?

[Doliath]

@RomaVictor85

Why can't it be all of those things?

[antagonos]

The servants of Christ must unify once more, forego thier differences and strive to make this world to the better plan.

[rockinairman]

I am proud to be a ROMAN catholic.

[666xb]

@rockinairman good for you.

[jannevellamo]

@RomaVictor85 Actually, Italy is all of those things and more. This includes the bad things too, but I certainly loved it, when I was there. Most of all, Italy is the people and the people are very nice indeed. I'll have to make another visit some day.

[Kelgrafar]

"NOT MAFIA, PIZZA OR SPAGHETTI" rofl

[avemarya46]

This is really beautiful... thank you for all your work. God bless.

[winterking2004]

Does anyone know what century this chant is from?

[SteveStung]

@winterking2004 The manuscript dates from the 12th century. The chant may well be older.

[jerallovesyou]

soon we will be one church again

[Jesadaporn]

hope so...

[jannevellamo]

@jerallovesyou That, in fact, would be disasterous for both churches. Without protestantism the catholic church would quickly begin to contemplate its navel again, as was the case at the time of the reformation. Somebody had to clean house and open the windows, as Luther did. Without catholicism, however, protestantism would quickly become too bland, austere and sterile, so both are needed to balance each other. One church could have ignored the pedophile scandal, two can not afford to.

[jerallovesyou]

@jannevellamo hello there! i was actually refering to the church of Rome becoming one again with the churches in the East. As for Protestantism, it is so beautiful to see the many ways the Holy Spirit has revealed himself to those churches as well!

love, jerry

[jannevellamo]

@jerallovesyou Oh, thank you. Love to you too. Pax vobiscum.

[macpappimm]

terra tremuit. piritum fecit.....

[Lysandros]

This is one of the best chants of the Roman church. There is an especially mystical tone to it which gives one over to meditation and contemplation of God.

[srang12345]

@RomaVictor85 point of light in the medieval era..true inquisition was reaaaallly enlitenlightning and god put his church to jeruslem...all of them if you recognise...in rome the first christians where killed in the colloseum...again enlightning...and within the middel ages rome lost its power nd from year to year more...the point of light in these times was europe...completly divided but still somehow united 4 life...still without italy europe wouldn't be what it is today greetings(!)

[AmirMartin77]

wow nice, i love roman catholic church

[fleckbutt]

those arguing over religion - this music is amazing and beautiful in and of itself.

I'm not religious, although I have my own concepts of spirituality and so forth, yet I find this music enchanting and mystical.

[antes69]

Chanting in Latin has a certain allure to it.

[Dicopsy]

C'est comme de regarder les étoiles.

A écouter en même temps si possible.

[muskheli]

Unbelievable. The Lord our God gives us voice, so simple, yet unmatched by any man-made instrument.

This is Earth shaking, illuminating, humbling, and eerily soul soothing.

Pray and give thanks to the Lord.

[Cheximus]

It is beautiful, but unfortunately religion is a man-made fairy tale and there is no God.

[DarkFulanito]

@Cheximus Thanks for the info Amazing Atheist ;)

Can you recommend a work of such beauty inspired in, I dunno, barney the dinosaur?

[asherasator]

The common religions are man made fairy tales from myths & other things, but there is a God that has nothing to do with institutions, denominations & things commercialized, he, she, it rests inside us, in our heart, in our nervous system, between the sides of our head called the "Temples", in our mind, it is us, if there is a true monotheism, then God is all, Matter=Mother, Energy=God/Satan, & it's creation is our reality.

[muskheli]

@Cheximus my friend, what makes you say there is no God?  Why deny your creator?

[GoldenRatio]

@muskheli: ''Why deny your creator?'' Because God didn't create man, perhaps...?

[Jesadaporn]

than... who create you? a Monk?!

[GoldenRatio]

@Jesadaporn: A monk? No.

[Speros11]

glory be to god my brother/sister in the lord, glory be to him

[MarylandGurl]

@muskheli

Oh, so very true. Couldn't have said it better my friend. =)

[winniemiles]

just a few typos in my previous comment:

- preconceived instead fo precoceived;

- But instead of Burt;

- revealing instead of reealing.

Sorry for that.

winniemiles

[winniemiles]

performed by the Ensemble Organum, Marcel Pérès dir, Chants de l'Eglise de Rome, cd Harmonia Mundi HMA1951218, rec 1985/08.

from booklet notes:

"In our our interpretation of the Old Roman chant a large number of precoceived ideas have been turned upside down. Burt far from wishing to confer a note of exoticism on our performance, we have aimed above all at reealing, in the words of Michel Huglo, the cultural and spiritual unity in which East and West were merged at the time"

[Azariah197]

This is awesome.

[bsdipaolo]

Ps. 76 in the KJV. This is the Offertory antiphon for Easter Sunday.

[bigsis144]

What is the scriptural source for this? One source I found lists Psalms 75, but it doesn't seem to match up in my translation.

[Lysandros]

Does this chant date to after the Gregorian reform, or before when Latin chants still had their Byzantine heritage?

[wandermere14000]

Before. Other clips with the same kind of music have the date of about 7th century A.D.. It's almost the same style as the Byzantine one.

[randomtaffer]

This is absolutely wonderful!

[rvehring]

The earth was terrified and reduced to silence, when you arose, O God for judgment.

Renowned in Judah is God, whose name is great in Israel.

And Jerusalem (pace locum) is where He lives, and Zion is His home.

There He broke the arrows of the bow, the shield, sword, and the (weapons of) war.

You are glorious, more wonderful than the eternal mountains

[rvehring]

Terra tremuit et quievit, dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, aleluia.

Notus in Judea Deus in Israel magnum nomen eius, aleluia

dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, aleluia

Et factus est in pace locus eius et habitatio eius in Sion, aleluia

dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, aleluia

Ibi confregit cornua arcum, scutum, gladium et bellum

iluminans tu mirabiliter a montibus aeternis, alleluia

Terra tremuit et quievit, dum resurgeret in iudicio Deus, aleluia.

[EvilSchizoGenius]

"La tierra teme sobrecogida, cuando Dios se pone en pie para juzgar, aleluya"