the numbers and markings are for the exact place, month and year of manufacture and the 38 i thiink is the 38th year of the emperor at the time... but.. i dont know how you would decypher the numbers and markings... sorry =/
If it appears to be re-arsenaled it was not done by the Japs. As of August 15, 1945 all of Japan as a nation ground to a halt! Once anything left Japan it never returned again!
@JTelli786 Well I am glad it worked out so well in the end. It shoots great, but it's going to be a safe queen for the most part. Although the 6.5 Jap that is available to shoot isn't very hi pressure, I don't forsee myself shooting it anytime soon anyways.
only the ones that were imported by the government had the markings ground off, you can tell the one he has in the video wasnt issued to a soldier for long because most troops removed the metal dust cover over the bolt because it made to much noise
@awol1965 This dust cover is not matching. Just because it has a dust cover doesn't mean it wasn't issued to any troops for very long. But if only the rifle could talk, we would know where it was issued to. It's possible some other collector just wanted a dust cover, and put it on there. Or a soldier brought it back, and also picked up a dust cover he found and threw it on there? Who knows?????
If its got the Imperial seal still on it, it was captured in combat..that lends credance to the "being shot story" and yes, it looks like an impact from a steel core bullet.
I have a rifle just like this one. It's in amazing cond. It has a bayint never re blued stock is vary nice and shoots great is it worth iny money?? Good video
@Mauser2012 Well, Arisaka rifles are known for having the strongest actions of any milsurp rifle out there. I did shoot it but I don't think I'll do anymore shooting of it. I was surprised at how accurate it shot at 100 yds considering the condition of the bore wasn't all that great, and the rifling looked pretty shallow. I'm very happy with my purchase.
Our boys must have been doin a good job from the way that bullet is angled. Looks like the poor fellow that was shooting that rifle was snuck up on from behind. Lol
That looks like it is going to take a lot of restoration, but it is nice that is has the MUM on the receiver. Nice project that should turn out great.
my local gun store has a type 99 for 239. the only thing that stops me from buying it is the fact that 7.7 jap is hard to come by. the best thing is it still has the aircraft sites on it, do you think its worth it?
@ronnieman87 Does it have an in tact mum? Aircraft sights are a plus. Does it have a monopod too? If it has all of those, has a good bore then it sounds like a great deal. Matching numbers would definitely be a bonus. If the mum has been ground, and the rest is good, matching numbers and everything else, then I might still pay that if the rest of the rifle was in great shape. If it is non-matching with a ground mum, might try to talk them down a little.
@Sarcasticscum I gave more than I'd like to say for it. Let me put it this way. It was totally worth the money I paid after I got it all cleaned up, and then shot it. I could probably get that out of it anyways if I ever sold it.
Yea, shot and fired. There is a range report vid up somewhere. It really did surprise me how well it shot. Even with what seemed some pretty rounded off lands and grooves. Now, I wouldn't consider this to be an every day shooter, as ammo is a bit pricey. I lucked out and found some at Cabela's. For now, it will get a good coat of oil, and hang out in the safe, occasionally coming out for a fondling session and inspection.
these rifles are awesome. if the norma ammo wasn't so expensive, i'd take ours out shooting more. the cheapir remanuf. pci stuff just doesn't seem to do as well
I found some 6.5 Jap ammo at Cabela's. I was about ready to walk out the door when I found it. Bit the bullet on the price, but hopefully only once and I can reload eventually for it.
This is more a friend of mine from Poland and I disagree on what was the best from WWII. If you had to pick one what would it be? I plan on having all for collect. your op. on best all around battle rfl of WWII
That is a difficult question. All WWII bolt guns performed well, and were pretty accurate. The Garand is a great gun, but I'm going to pick a bolt action. I'd have to say the Enfield. I'd pick the K31 Swiss, but they didn't see any war action I know of on behalf of the Swiss. IMO, the Swiss K31 rifle is the finest milsurp rifle there is. In my book the Enfield and Garand are very close competitors to the K31. The Finn M39 of MN rifles would give an Enfield Garand or K31 a run for the money.
Well, you have Mosins already, so depending on if you want a shooter, you can buy a Russian capture Mauser K98, or a collector K98. Yugo Mausers aren't all that bad at J&G Sales. Czech Mausers aren't either. Arisakas are good rifles, just depends on what you're looking for. Something to blast at the range, I'd go with an RC Mauser, so then you can say you've got a K98 Mauser :)
Yea, it's sure got a lot of character, thats for sure. I'm hoping it will get better with some work to get that rust outta there and the bolt raceways.
Well I wish I were wealthy! Then I could buy many more than this!! I keep an eye out for a good deal, and I set a little bit aside every paycheck to play with when the good deal comes up.
Kokura built the type 38 from 1933-1940 from what I can find so its more of a guess, but they only got to series 26 before they changed to the type99.
I see. The Koishikawa plant built them too, and must have changed names after 1935? In the research I have done, the Koishikawa plant made rifles from 1870-1935. Koishikawa and Kokura used the same arsenal stamp so I don't know if it is a short form for the word or if it is an entirely different arsenal, just using the same stamp. But if they only got to series 26 before they switched, then you're probably in the neighborhood with the production date. Thanks :)
Shame its in such a rough shape
KimberLuv487 1 week ago
@KimberLuv487 It's actually not in bad shape at all. See the other parts of the series, it gets better!
MarshalZhukov 6 days ago
the numbers and markings are for the exact place, month and year of manufacture and the 38 i thiink is the 38th year of the emperor at the time... but.. i dont know how you would decypher the numbers and markings... sorry =/
Cypher791 3 weeks ago
If it appears to be re-arsenaled it was not done by the Japs. As of August 15, 1945 all of Japan as a nation ground to a halt! Once anything left Japan it never returned again!
leesherman100 3 months ago
you are a very lucky man to have this
JTelli786 6 months ago
@JTelli786 Well I am glad it worked out so well in the end. It shoots great, but it's going to be a safe queen for the most part. Although the 6.5 Jap that is available to shoot isn't very hi pressure, I don't forsee myself shooting it anytime soon anyways.
MarshalZhukov 6 months ago
only the ones that were imported by the government had the markings ground off, you can tell the one he has in the video wasnt issued to a soldier for long because most troops removed the metal dust cover over the bolt because it made to much noise
awol1965 7 months ago
@awol1965 This dust cover is not matching. Just because it has a dust cover doesn't mean it wasn't issued to any troops for very long. But if only the rifle could talk, we would know where it was issued to. It's possible some other collector just wanted a dust cover, and put it on there. Or a soldier brought it back, and also picked up a dust cover he found and threw it on there? Who knows?????
MarshalZhukov 7 months ago
When thay brought them to the states, they filed off most of the imperial seal.
MrZAKTAN 11 months ago
If its got the Imperial seal still on it, it was captured in combat..that lends credance to the "being shot story" and yes, it looks like an impact from a steel core bullet.
Gloomshadow1 1 year ago
@Gloomshadow1 The mum is in tact and present. Parts 2 and 3 are good too :)
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
I have a rifle just like this one. It's in amazing cond. It has a bayint never re blued stock is vary nice and shoots great is it worth iny money?? Good video
cravyman1 1 year ago
@cravyman1 Need some pics, but if it is in as good of shape as you describe, it'll be worth something.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
Is it still safe to shoot with that bullet ding in the reciever?
Mauser2012 1 year ago
@Mauser2012 Well, Arisaka rifles are known for having the strongest actions of any milsurp rifle out there. I did shoot it but I don't think I'll do anymore shooting of it. I was surprised at how accurate it shot at 100 yds considering the condition of the bore wasn't all that great, and the rifling looked pretty shallow. I'm very happy with my purchase.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
how much did that 38 run you?
slaughtor1 1 year ago
@slaughtor1 I paid a lot more than I should have. But after I got it cleaned up, I think it's worth what I paid for it :)
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
Our boys must have been doin a good job from the way that bullet is angled. Looks like the poor fellow that was shooting that rifle was snuck up on from behind. Lol
Zeppelinfaktor 1 year ago
around 1938ish
yayap109 1 year ago
@yayap109 You can tell that based on the serial number? Do you have a source for serial numbers and date of manufacture?
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
very rare imperial chrysanthemum intact. obviously can tell was from the earlier days of the war. great find man
sk8rboily 1 year ago
That looks like it is going to take a lot of restoration, but it is nice that is has the MUM on the receiver. Nice project that should turn out great.
79thOVI 1 year ago
@79thOVI It has turned out great. Watch the rest of the series!
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
my local gun store has a type 99 for 239. the only thing that stops me from buying it is the fact that 7.7 jap is hard to come by. the best thing is it still has the aircraft sites on it, do you think its worth it?
ronnieman87 1 year ago
@ronnieman87 Does it have an in tact mum? Aircraft sights are a plus. Does it have a monopod too? If it has all of those, has a good bore then it sounds like a great deal. Matching numbers would definitely be a bonus. If the mum has been ground, and the rest is good, matching numbers and everything else, then I might still pay that if the rest of the rifle was in great shape. If it is non-matching with a ground mum, might try to talk them down a little.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
Looks like a guns shot to me.
prettyvacant2007 1 year ago
Hmmm. How much did you give for this rifle? If you don't mind me asking.
Sarcasticscum 1 year ago
@Sarcasticscum I gave more than I'd like to say for it. Let me put it this way. It was totally worth the money I paid after I got it all cleaned up, and then shot it. I could probably get that out of it anyways if I ever sold it.
MarshalZhukov 1 year ago
an you get ammunition for this rifle?
silver760 2 years ago
Yea, shot and fired. There is a range report vid up somewhere. It really did surprise me how well it shot. Even with what seemed some pretty rounded off lands and grooves. Now, I wouldn't consider this to be an every day shooter, as ammo is a bit pricey. I lucked out and found some at Cabela's. For now, it will get a good coat of oil, and hang out in the safe, occasionally coming out for a fondling session and inspection.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
We like fondling and inspection,I just got myself a new high capacity safe,just have to fill it with more toys now.
silver760 2 years ago
Oh yes. Looks like you have a more than acceptable mission ahead of you then :D If it ever gets too full, I'll store some for ya ;)
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
2:10 I love that song plus a very good video! :D
cornsnake1fan 2 years ago
these rifles are awesome. if the norma ammo wasn't so expensive, i'd take ours out shooting more. the cheapir remanuf. pci stuff just doesn't seem to do as well
CmdrALF 2 years ago
I found some 6.5 Jap ammo at Cabela's. I was about ready to walk out the door when I found it. Bit the bullet on the price, but hopefully only once and I can reload eventually for it.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
if that was truley shot, then that is just awesome!!!
Simonov5966 2 years ago
This is more a friend of mine from Poland and I disagree on what was the best from WWII. If you had to pick one what would it be? I plan on having all for collect. your op. on best all around battle rfl of WWII
bulkfull 2 years ago
That is a difficult question. All WWII bolt guns performed well, and were pretty accurate. The Garand is a great gun, but I'm going to pick a bolt action. I'd have to say the Enfield. I'd pick the K31 Swiss, but they didn't see any war action I know of on behalf of the Swiss. IMO, the Swiss K31 rifle is the finest milsurp rifle there is. In my book the Enfield and Garand are very close competitors to the K31. The Finn M39 of MN rifles would give an Enfield Garand or K31 a run for the money.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
3 hands...1 for the rifle, 1 for the beer, & one for the camera. :) looking forward to seeing when you get it all done!
bulkfull 2 years ago
Take a pick for me....
arisaka, mosin, mauser
bulkfull 2 years ago
Well, you have Mosins already, so depending on if you want a shooter, you can buy a Russian capture Mauser K98, or a collector K98. Yugo Mausers aren't all that bad at J&G Sales. Czech Mausers aren't either. Arisakas are good rifles, just depends on what you're looking for. Something to blast at the range, I'd go with an RC Mauser, so then you can say you've got a K98 Mauser :)
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Looks like a nice project. I like the big dent in the barrel...you know this one was in the war.
venturahwy76 2 years ago
Yea, it's sure got a lot of character, thats for sure. I'm hoping it will get better with some work to get that rust outta there and the bolt raceways.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
You must be welfy... (sorry if i spelled it wrong)
ArtistNR 2 years ago
Well I wish I were wealthy! Then I could buy many more than this!! I keep an eye out for a good deal, and I set a little bit aside every paycheck to play with when the good deal comes up.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Man, that one is in even worse order than mine! And that DOES look like a bullet strike to me...
You've got your hands full with that one, buddy.
kiwitedferny 2 years ago
Gonna give it a shot and see how it turns out. It does look like a bit of work. At least there was some cosmo to help preserve the under side of it.
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Looks like Kokura series #22 and its probably late 1930's.
Gungeek 2 years ago
How do you figure late 1930s by serial?
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
Kokura built the type 38 from 1933-1940 from what I can find so its more of a guess, but they only got to series 26 before they changed to the type99.
Gungeek 2 years ago
I see. The Koishikawa plant built them too, and must have changed names after 1935? In the research I have done, the Koishikawa plant made rifles from 1870-1935. Koishikawa and Kokura used the same arsenal stamp so I don't know if it is a short form for the word or if it is an entirely different arsenal, just using the same stamp. But if they only got to series 26 before they switched, then you're probably in the neighborhood with the production date. Thanks :)
MarshalZhukov 2 years ago
I think the pre 1935 plant got knocked down by an earthquake so it was moved and rebuilt.
Gungeek 2 years ago