10 months ago, and dont forget this was first time daigo was recorded, and he still was probably use to the parrying in sf3, so he continued to use it in 4 early on...
And he still does use focus att. and in this he uses them wisely
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If you no the man that does Fadc in the videos it has always been daigo i think his the first one that discovered canseling a sharyuken into ultra even though it was in the game but i think he was the first and he learnt it within a sec without using trial mode
Psychojosh: goto Evo this year enter a SF4 tournament and I expect nothing short of first place. You are obviously the greatest SF4 player in the world. When you win then you can say this games sucks.
I guess you're not a hardcore melee fan. Uhmm let's see. People were mocking Brawl for it being slower, and well, basically the game was made for those who weren't hardcore fans of melee. So, SF4, to me, is the same thing.
Which is why you're garbage and will never amount to anything in fighting games, I dare you to try "doing whatever is necessary" in SF3 you fucking loser. You wouldn't last 10 seconds :)
I dunno about that. I mean, not to defend "spam" or anything, but "doing whatever is necessary" in 3S is just different stuff. You can set up some great stuff that lesser players would call "cheap": kara throws, resets, empty jumping, UOH traps, etc. I think the "with honor" thing he's talking about is for people who whine about things like fireballs or grabs...you know the type :)
that tiger knee + shot tecnique doesnt work if you know how to counter it..instead of crying in comments you could ask and maby even I would help you :).
Not interested, I found a way around it but it's still fucking stupid and annoying as hell which is why I'm done playing this shit game, I'll stick to REAL fighters thanks.
That tiger trap shit is dead in SF3. It took skill to play 3 and motherfucker bitched about it. Sf4 is decent but i has its Faults. Sagat,Zangief and Ryu for one can get there ass handed to them for the whole round only to land bullshit ass ultras of Exchanges or proximity. Sagat Has been changed in 20 fucking years and only gets stronger.
SF3 is to Gears of War and SF4 is to Gears Of war 2....Slower and noob friendly.
SKILL!!?????? Hahahahahaha. Don't make me laugh. Tapping F every single time you anitcipate and opponent is going to attack!!?? Come on please. SF3 has its place however the game is flawed. You have to admit that. At its core it is not steet fighter. SF4 on the other is very much street fighter. I agree that doing big damage combos are alot easier and the controls are definitely noob friendly. However at its core this is very much a very hardcore game.
"this game is very hardcore. Link Sub game, ex moves, supers, ultras, match-up dependent game play, no truly safe jump ins, most characters can do quarter or more damage off a crouching jab/short with no meter, overheads, character imbalances, tic throws, super armour, focus cancelling, focus counters, zoning, special move baiting, turtling(character specific), rush down(character specific), use of blocked links to rapidly build meter, few abusable attacks"
your right about 4 being hardcore. I did'nt like 3 but in order to be good it took skills being that a parry can hang over your head from your opponent.
as far as parrying go you can alway throw off an opponent parry timing so its nothing.
well, I loved 3S, but you're right, parrying is a non-issue. If you watch high level play, you rarely even see it, unless it's to stop something simple like a fireball or a common jump-in. Got to the point that you knew the parry was coming so you empty jump...then you knew that was coming so you prepared for the grab.
No wonder you suck at SF4, you dont adapt to a person's playing style and you dont know how to counter anything. Yeah Sagat is bad but he's definately beatable and there are more OP people in 3S.
How do you know I suck at SF4, tell me how that claim isn't just you being a presumptuous dickhead? I PLAY as Sagat, barely anyone beats me, it's fucking stupid and designed so that bad players and idiotic babies could win with it. The OP characters in SF3 are nowhere near as bad as the ones in SF4, so shut the fuck up you clearly know nothing about Street Fighter.
First off, people who play Sagat suck at the game and pick him for easy wins. But if your playing against someone good and they kno what theyre doing, their going to find a counter. And practically any character can dominate at this game if your good enough. Like even though when you first pick up this game, you assumed Dhalsim was low tier but Iyo got so good with him that he won the japanese national tournament, beating one of the best Sagats in the finals.
No it's the worst in the series because it's stuck midway between SF2 and SF3, can't decide what it wants to do.and ends up inheriting NEITHER of the games' depth, finesse or overall quality. It's the worst in the series for a waterfall of reasons I can't even begin to list in this youtube comment box alone.
Personally, I think the midway between ST and 3S is great. It has the qualities of both that I enjoy. Who says you need a parry system for it to be great? I mean it makes it more balanced, but it isn't necessary. It's much less strict than ST. Overall I think the game is tremendous, just a tad bit unbalanced. In 3S and ST you could get away with playing mid/low tier characters, not so much with SF4.
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I don't give a fuck about your worthless opinion, I never asked for it.
HAHAHAHAHJAGAGHHADFASHGAAA "BALANCED" You have GOT to be fucking joking, all you need to win is to spam tiger shots with Sagat and mix it up with tiger knee, then confirm his ultra with a fucking standing roundhouse. If this game can be called balanced then elephants can be called "petite". It tries to be a midway between SF2 and SF3, ends up leeching off both and surpassing neither.
Agree. Sagat makes a mockery of so-called 'high level play'. The tiger shots are so fast that trying to focus cancel past one'll get you hit by the next, trying to jump over them lines you up perfectly for a tiger knee/uppercut. And why are they so POWERFUL?
Don't get me wrong, I like streetfighter 4, but it is unbalanced as fuck. And guess what kiddos... you learn to get past the fireballs and block the knee... you've still got the rest of Sagat's moves to worry about.
did you know sagat is the only S tier character in the game? if you know nething about strret fighter, sagat was the boss in SF1 technically through the SF series Sagat has only been beaten once... by ryu..
I guess with a track record like that I can't blame him for getting so mad then. Seriously, the way he shouts 'RYUUUUUUUUU!!!' is possibly my favourite thing in the entire game
i said it was slighty UNBALANCED you fucking dumbass. and this game requires a lot of skill. have you ever tried playing C. Viper? if not, watch Joe from Japan. Shit gets so technical that Americans don't even know what to do with it.
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HAHAHAHA "skill" should never be mentioned in the same conversation that involves SF4. I saw that video where the fucking retarded Sagat player whiffed his ultra and let go of his controller thinking he won only to lose to a Viper player. The people who play this game seriously are total fucking idiots and will never enjoy a TRUE street fighter game that requires actual skill to be good at. You would never be able to pull off a fireball spam in SF3, you'd be killed for it.
If your really scrubby enough to exploit Sagat's gayness than i guess you really should keep getting your dick hard over 3S cuz thats not gonna work with the pros in SFIV cuz theyll keep finding a counter to your faggotness. And keep in mind that This SFIV is only the first version, theyre gonna make more and there only gonna get better. Dont reply back, im done talking to scrubs.
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Psh, yeah right, tell that to the other supposed "pros" online who I keep kicking their asses with Sagat, lol you're just some bitch who doesn't know JACK SHIT about street fighter. Enjoy your watered-down garbage fighter for babies dumbass
I find it funny how the Korean Champ is a Ryu, Japanese Champ is a Dhalsim, and the American Champ is a Rufus. None of them are Sagat's and yet you keep insisting that Sagat is what makes this game so easy, even though he gets raped in the hardest tournaments. Pros find counters to Sagat, they dont just sit there, bitch, and then say "Im going back to 3S". They actually find a way around it and thats what seperates scrubs from pros.
I can agree with you on the fact that Sagat is beatable, but I honestly think he could use a slight nerf on his health, 1100 is high for a guy with so many pluses, my win ratio is 89% and I have around 1000 matches, I usually beat Sagat players, but he is Overpowered no doubt. Beatable but he needs a nerf big time.
Anybody whining about fireballs should get better at avoiding them instead. I do whatever, if you dont like fireballs ill spam them at you as much as i can, im not playing games to show that i am something, im there to get the prize money, oh, and i also like to make grown men cry by beating them at the only thing they are "good" at. Hahahaha
I agree. There's a right and wrong way to do everything. Throwing FP projectiles and nothing else will probably get you wrecked, but if you know how to mix up the strenghths, pay attention to your spacing, and punish, it's a really good tactic. May not get the "respect" but really, are we playing to get the pat on the back at the end, or so we don't have to plunk another quarter in the machine?
It's funny, people will often say "oh that's so easy, anyone can do _____" ....but then they don't.
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And nice crack about my mother and my sister dumbass, I'm sure you're the epitome of wit in conversations with the rest of your 9 year old buddies back at elementary school lmao.
Spamming high tiger shots and mixing it up with tiger knees and standing roundhouses is seriously all you need to win at SF4. That's why all the top players do it, that's why this game is a joke. Enjoy your little Scrub Fighter 4, I'll be playing SF3, a game that requires a brain.
Hah now your just jealous wit is my specialty yes, and my little 9 year old friends still make more sense than psychos like you.
If you lose against fireball spammers, then its probably because you suck, when it comes to Scrub fighter 3 (since its in the same game series i suppose its named the same) i cant believe your actually playing a game that you do not have.
Oh and for the record, i am older than you. and don't you dis's my elementary high school now ;)
No, Scrub Fighter 4 is of a different series than Street Fighter 3, because the former is a shit game while the latter is unlabored flawlessness in gaming. I don't lose against fireball spammers, I AM one, and it's the most retardedly efficient way of winning possible, which proves that this game is utter garbage.
Oh, and you're older than me? That only means you were held back all those years because you're still without a doubt a stupid 5th grader who won't amount to anything ever. Lmao
Hey man, how about we leave the insults away? Your comments have some interesting arguments after all, besides im not much about defending either one of the games anyways.
I use bison on sf4, and while i am not good, i still beat a spammer now and then, why are we even fighting over this? I mean its all Capcom`s fault =P
OH noes! Im not a fighting game guru! Well buhu, im talking about life. Lol your such a SF3 Winner my friend oh yes... but by your irrational behavior on line, you have proven that you probably need to increase your medication to last in real life. Stay in the past with your little outdated games yes. Because that is the only place you belong. Oh id last for ten seconds, but then id probably long since seduced your mother and your sister. Oh, im such a FUCKING loser... oh yes... thats the way.
"Outdated" lol, yeah keep acting like perfect games age you scrub-ass idiot. If that were the case then people would've stopped playing SF2 a long time ago, but guess what, THEY STILL play it in tournaments regardless of what pathetic and unimportant opinions little fighting game rookies like you may have. Nice joke about me being medicated though, I'm sure that's totally not a projection of your own ADHD-errogenous struggle deep within your ritalin-laced soul, which is why you like SF4 so much.
Just for the record: Scrub-ass idiot is one of the better funnier insults i have ever heard. Lol. Your cool Psycho, i enjoyed our debate, oh your much better than sacksbaby thats for sure.
Well If I Cant Play Him I'll Play You Losers.. Till I Get To Him. Hell I Just Want To Play The Best Japan Has. Even Alex Id Like To Play Him. They Are Street Fighter. All Yall Are Chumps . I Used 2 Play Arcade But As I Grew The Machines Were Recalled Or Some Shit. I Play On DC.
His online id is daigo, ive played him and he wooped my ass just like he wooped sonic boom ass. mann when he raped me i farted on the mic that was his present from me. i played him 10 rounds, the outcome was 3 - 10 for daigo
well I dont recommend the 360 arcade things.. only because if you're a rough player that goes hardcore on the stick.. it'll move.. so you have to put it in a steady place and have atleast 10 pounds of gravity pulling it down for it to not freaking move
The complaints about comparing Smash Bros to SF is stupid. They're two completely different games, therefore you can't really compare them that easily. That's like SF has less depth than Counter-Strike. You just can't say anything because one is a 1v1 game, the other is team-based, and not even a fighter.
"Traditional" does not equal "Non-Traditional" they aren't comparable.
wow how did ssbm even get into a comment page of a street fighter vid i wouldnt even put ssbm on the same shelf as any sf game. i mean ssbm is fun when ur bored and tired or playing against ur 6yr old brother.
It's actually more complicated than you think. There's a video that tells you all this shit on how to play at pro level, but it don't even mention the things you must know for each individual character. With just what the in-game tutorial teaches you, yeah, it's very boring and childish. But with all the tricks, you'll be practicing for months and probably still won't master some things. Just saying.
ehhhh man that was an epic argument, I'm a melee tourney player and it hurt to read some peoples thoughts on melee, saying it has no depth??? its like ouch man, ive played the game since '01, competitively since '05, and I still learn more and more about the game.
I am just now getting into sf (this game looks awesome, figured its a good time). but after melee, every other game kind of feels like eating cake to learn. waveshining, pillaring, chainthrows, etc, etc, etc, I LOVE THAT SHIT
mercsan117 you never played Melee if you say its a 3d fighter...
Melee (the SSB series as a whole) is simple to control but hard to master. The tech is not as complicated and most serious players would admit that. The game is more relient on mindgames and a more open and dynamic fighting system.
Enjoy SF more if you want thats fine, but to completely disregard a legitimate fighter with depth and a huge competetive scene just seems... scruby
Did you not read the part where I said I played it alot? The characters and environment are 3d, but you cannot side step obviously.
I didnt say anything about SSB not being a great game. It is that in fact. I just said Melee is better than brawl, but SF3TS is one of the best competition fighters out there.
Melee is 3d but it's flatscreen just like all of the street fighters and ssb. SSBM requires a lot of mindgames at high level play but you need at least basic tech skills as well. i.e. if you can't shuffle then an average player who can will wreck you.
what are you talking about who cares....melee was just more fun to play...idc about mind games its a game..i just had more fun with melee than i did with brawl. brawl was good, melee was perfect
Good does not mean Tournament level. Good just means you are decent at the game and know how to play Street Fighter. Please dont bring these petty arguements on Youtube. If your good then that is fine, but there a million and one players who are also good. Tournament level means your known in the gaming world such as: Daigo, Justin Wong, Alex Valle, Kuroda, Nuki, J, KO, Harmonaz, Yuki Otoko, Pyro Lee, Ryan Hart, Zak, Vision etc the list goes on. If your not here then you are not tournament lvl
thank you!!! OZ1rajah at least you understand what i mean when i say "Good". That weird guy named Strongbad338guy kept saying dumb shit when all i said is that im "good" at SSBM and i didnt say tourney level. well at least ur understanding.
And i dont know how the hell SSBM got into this vid seriously they are like 2 completely different games
Lmao yeah i know, i was reading the posts and thought "wtf is going on here." People have too much anger these days, they read something and prove how hard they by dissing others. Lol, Tourny lvl of play is a new class of SF lol. I have played the big boys at battle of Destiny and once at SBO in Japan (casual matches) and got owned. They are too fast for me, but all good fun. Keep rocking dude. xx
Playing both of them, SSBM is kids stuff compared to the SF seriously i dont know why you guys would compare them.
SF you can do combos, parrys, counters, and is an actual fighting game. SSBM's moves are easy to pull off(Left+A, Right+B) the best thing is probably just the dodge move(which requires the right timing) other than that just hop around and try to hit each other.
SF took me like a month to actually be good at it(master combos, parrys, counters,) while SSBM took me like 4-5 days
you mastered SF3 in a month? I call bullshit on that. SSBM is its own game after playing for a month, there is a lot of depth to be had in it. Howeverf with that said i much prefer SF.
well okay i was over exaggerating it took me a longer but i played almost everyday (5-7 times a week) when i say mastering i meant like to know combos, counters, and parrying attacks and super combos (although i still have trouble parrying chung li, makoto, necro, twelve, yang, dudley, and Q's super combos) but seriously SF has way more depth in gameplay than SSBM(SSBB killed the series gameplay depth).
well anyway gotta get ready for SF4 cause it aint like SF3 anymore.....
i also call bullshit that it took you 4-5 days to be good at ssbm. i can give you a month and i guarantee that you will not come close to "master" ssbm and their advanced techniques lol.
don't get me wrong fellas. i love SF, but this kid doesn't know what he's talking about lol.
I didnt say i mastered SSBM in 4-5 days, I said i got good at it dude. and dont get me wrong its not that i dont like SSBM im just saying SF requires more skill
Ever been to a SSBM tourney? Did you place in the top 5? Do you honestly think that you have become good at SSBM in 4-5 days? I call bullshit, unless by good you mean you can beat scrubs which isn't anything to be proud of.
the dodge move? fucking christ you know nothing about SSBM. it's wavedashing, if you don't even know that you can't say jack shit about the Melee metagame and how absolutely insane it is. I'm pretty good at Melee and have played for 3 years but players like Mew2king, Cactuar, Darkrain, etc. tear me up like I'm nothing.
lol well thats what i call it at least you know what i mean.....AND DAMN!!! i said im good at it!! i didnt say i mastered it or said im a tourney level on the game. the fucks wrong with you people assuming shit lol probably even one of you people here can beat me. IM NO PRO!! alright?? i didnt say i was. So stop saying shit already lol
SF: requires more skills
SSBM: less skills than SF (i got "Good" at it in 4-5 days)
thats all i said at first comment and now it turned into this. lol freaks
So if someone says "hey that guys good at SSBM!!! and that guy over there is pretty good too!!" that means he's a tourney level guy??? LOL man your funny. i hear everyone saying that to each other. And i am a liar?? so are you trying to say that "I Am" a tourney level guy since i said im "Good" lol ok im a tourney level guy feel better now?? lol
it seems your definition of "good" is "a basic understanding of AT's, how they work, and how to do them," which you can indeed learn in 5 days. in any game. the actual definition of "good" is being able to use those AT's naturally and at the right times depending on the situation, and that takes months of experience.
don't get me wrong, Street Fighter rocks, but don't think SSBM is a noob game. it has way more depth than Street Fighter any day.
well you'll get everyone confused by saying that. you should just use pro, expert, or you can just say tourney level thats way more understanding than saying "good" for tourney level. well anyway
SF: custom combos, parrys(air parrys), specials, counters, guard(high and low), moves are harder to perform, uses 6 buttons(light, med, strong punch or kick) and longer learning depth
SSBM: Combos(A+A,A+B??), easy to perform moves, use 4 buttons, dodge/wavedashing
That's over-simplifying things a bit too much. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Smash was MORE complicated than a traditional fighter like SF, but it is a deep fighting engine. You have to take into consideration things like edge guarding, and no, the combos in the game aren't as simple as A+A, there's lots of juggles and things like chain throws etc. etc.
you can NOT say that a game has more depths because of buttons. just stop talking right there.
edgeguarding, hitstun, blastlines, stages, 25 ridiculously different characters with different comboabilities and able-to-be-combo-ability (srry couldn't think of a word), falling speeds, recoveries, juggles, mindgames, etc.
no, don't even /try/ to simplify such a deep game to such a ridiculously vague point.
lol man nvm this will never end your just a lil fanboy of SSBM and think it has more depth and I like SF more and think it has more depth(and most people here would agree)so no use talkin anymore cause we're both gonna stick to our sides. If you have more to say, chat it out at a SSBM fanboy video page cause this is a SF video here
SSBM has a lot more depth than you may think. I can't even say all the shit you must know to have a chance at tournament level. Street Fighter will always be the king of 2D/2.5D fighters, but Melee ain't easy at all compared to what I've seen in tornaments. Most moves require you to do shit in less than 2 frames, and it moves around 60 frames per second.
oh.......i dont really care. I know SSBM has depth but im just saying (in my opinion!!!) that SF has more depth. well just dont take it personally cause everyone has their own opinions
both the street fighter series and smash bros series are awesome. while the gameplay is completely different, they are/(can be) tournament level games. anyone interested should look into the tournament level play of both games before making judgemnts. that's where both games shine. nuff said.
LOL everything you saw happen in that match, or any high level sf match involving people like daigo was entirely premeditated. Lucky only comes into play when people guess and throw out a dragon punch or something like that which 9 times out of 10 you get punished when you miss so your point is invalid sir!!!!!!
beasting = spamming millions of hadoukens? he's a scrub compared to Japanese players
SGVknarf 10 months ago
@SGVknarf it's called zoning
sirshaunathan 8 months ago
Doesn't seem like daigo to me. He usually throws a lot more tatsu's in there esp after ultra to build super
Benny209 10 months ago
go home and be owned
TheCarrShow 1 year ago
my speakers :(
FallensBlackouts 1 year ago
HQ and HD.! lol
krizanya 2 years ago 2
Oh.....ryu......again......zzzzz
Balloonbot 2 years ago
The sound is too loud
nordlead3 2 years ago 12
resolution fail..
cyclo212 2 years ago
shit how does he do the focus cancel so fast
bigredxxx 2 years ago
practice?
GamesPlayer1 2 years ago
easy on ryu. usless on somone like dhalsim .
topbluffa1 2 years ago
It is sooooooooooooo easy just focus then tap forward twice realy fast check out my ke combo........it is in one of my vids.
JorEl11111 2 years ago
wat beasting?
kareemtitojamar 2 years ago
i wouldn't call this beasting..
mrji 2 years ago
Yikes, I think I would have preferred there be no sound at all =/
Sacc2252 2 years ago
You can easily mute it.
sanctusdead 2 years ago
fail...
leoniums 2 years ago
this is not daigo, style is too different, for one this player uses focus a lot more than daigo does.
torment3d 2 years ago
its 10 months ago so if this was daigo odds are he was still learning the game
MysticShadow1453 2 years ago 6
im glad someone has some since, thank-you.
10 months ago, and dont forget this was first time daigo was recorded, and he still was probably use to the parrying in sf3, so he continued to use it in 4 early on...
And he still does use focus att. and in this he uses them wisely
th3major 2 years ago
there isnt parry on sf4...
marcospablotu 2 years ago
Well yes and no first if you focus attack then dash that is sortof like it and second gouken has a move such as thatof a parry.
JorEl11111 2 years ago
Focus Attacks umm is this the one that they will do a different stance like parrying then making a counter attack ?
sniperclown 2 years ago
Yes. You can also use it to break out of specials and supers.
torment3d 2 years ago
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If you no the man that does Fadc in the videos it has always been daigo i think his the first one that discovered canseling a sharyuken into ultra even though it was in the game but i think he was the first and he learnt it within a sec without using trial mode
PSTRIPPLEE 2 years ago
nope. this was beeing done long before Daigo even touched the game.
pinkt1t5 2 years ago
PsychoJosh is a giant noob.
xopmx 2 years ago
Psychojosh: goto Evo this year enter a SF4 tournament and I expect nothing short of first place. You are obviously the greatest SF4 player in the world. When you win then you can say this games sucks.
pinkt1t5 2 years ago
He just has a case of the "Strikees".....Since SF4 isnt 200% like 3S, he immediately rejects it....As of today no cure has been found
jdigitalseven 2 years ago 4
@pinkt1t5 I bet he wont even dare to go to the arcade for it.
hunter2002bow 9 months ago
SF3 is to Melee and SF4 is to Brawl.
MomentsReprive 2 years ago
Brawl and Melee both suck so I don't get what you're trying to say here?
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
I guess you're not a hardcore melee fan. Uhmm let's see. People were mocking Brawl for it being slower, and well, basically the game was made for those who weren't hardcore fans of melee. So, SF4, to me, is the same thing.
MomentsReprive 2 years ago
Way to degrade into fireball spam best apparent best st4 player in the world
CamTheKitty 2 years ago
You know he would rape your face!
agentdreyer 2 years ago
In my eyes Sf is much like life, you can either play "with honor" or just do whatever is necessary to accomplish your goal... I dig the latter one.
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
Which is why you're garbage and will never amount to anything in fighting games, I dare you to try "doing whatever is necessary" in SF3 you fucking loser. You wouldn't last 10 seconds :)
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
I dunno about that. I mean, not to defend "spam" or anything, but "doing whatever is necessary" in 3S is just different stuff. You can set up some great stuff that lesser players would call "cheap": kara throws, resets, empty jumping, UOH traps, etc. I think the "with honor" thing he's talking about is for people who whine about things like fireballs or grabs...you know the type :)
symmetryx 2 years ago
In SF4 "doing whatever is necessary" is so easy to do that a monkey could do it, it's like following a flowchart.
Pick Sagat > Match starts > Is opponent close? > Yes > TIGER KNEE > Is opponent far? > Yes > TIGER SHOT
and so on. It takes considerable skill to "do what is necessary" in SF3, new players could do it in SF4 but they'd be at a loss in 3.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
that tiger knee + shot tecnique doesnt work if you know how to counter it..instead of crying in comments you could ask and maby even I would help you :).
Nallen026 2 years ago
Not interested, I found a way around it but it's still fucking stupid and annoying as hell which is why I'm done playing this shit game, I'll stick to REAL fighters thanks.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Gotta agree with you on this one partner.
That tiger trap shit is dead in SF3. It took skill to play 3 and motherfucker bitched about it. Sf4 is decent but i has its Faults. Sagat,Zangief and Ryu for one can get there ass handed to them for the whole round only to land bullshit ass ultras of Exchanges or proximity. Sagat Has been changed in 20 fucking years and only gets stronger.
SF3 is to Gears of War and SF4 is to Gears Of war 2....Slower and noob friendly.
SDSOverfiend 2 years ago
SKILL!!?????? Hahahahahaha. Don't make me laugh. Tapping F every single time you anitcipate and opponent is going to attack!!?? Come on please. SF3 has its place however the game is flawed. You have to admit that. At its core it is not steet fighter. SF4 on the other is very much street fighter. I agree that doing big damage combos are alot easier and the controls are definitely noob friendly. However at its core this is very much a very hardcore game.
pinkt1t5 2 years ago
reasons why sf4 is a hardcore fighter
"this game is very hardcore. Link Sub game, ex moves, supers, ultras, match-up dependent game play, no truly safe jump ins, most characters can do quarter or more damage off a crouching jab/short with no meter, overheads, character imbalances, tic throws, super armour, focus cancelling, focus counters, zoning, special move baiting, turtling(character specific), rush down(character specific), use of blocked links to rapidly build meter, few abusable attacks"
pinkt1t5 2 years ago
your right about 4 being hardcore. I did'nt like 3 but in order to be good it took skills being that a parry can hang over your head from your opponent.
as far as parrying go you can alway throw off an opponent parry timing so its nothing.
SDSOverfiend 2 years ago
well, I loved 3S, but you're right, parrying is a non-issue. If you watch high level play, you rarely even see it, unless it's to stop something simple like a fireball or a common jump-in. Got to the point that you knew the parry was coming so you empty jump...then you knew that was coming so you prepared for the grab.
Personally I think they're both pretty hardcore.
symmetryx 2 years ago
No wonder you suck at SF4, you dont adapt to a person's playing style and you dont know how to counter anything. Yeah Sagat is bad but he's definately beatable and there are more OP people in 3S.
JUSTxINSANE 2 years ago
How do you know I suck at SF4, tell me how that claim isn't just you being a presumptuous dickhead? I PLAY as Sagat, barely anyone beats me, it's fucking stupid and designed so that bad players and idiotic babies could win with it. The OP characters in SF3 are nowhere near as bad as the ones in SF4, so shut the fuck up you clearly know nothing about Street Fighter.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
First off, people who play Sagat suck at the game and pick him for easy wins. But if your playing against someone good and they kno what theyre doing, their going to find a counter. And practically any character can dominate at this game if your good enough. Like even though when you first pick up this game, you assumed Dhalsim was low tier but Iyo got so good with him that he won the japanese national tournament, beating one of the best Sagats in the finals.
JUSTxINSANE 2 years ago
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It doesn't fucking matter, SF4 is garbage and the worst game in the SFseries because there's no skill required to win
I'll stick to SF3 because I'm done with this shit game, SF4 strats be damned
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Just because it's slower than the other SF games doesn't mean it's the worst in the series.
triferno 2 years ago
No it's the worst in the series because it's stuck midway between SF2 and SF3, can't decide what it wants to do.and ends up inheriting NEITHER of the games' depth, finesse or overall quality. It's the worst in the series for a waterfall of reasons I can't even begin to list in this youtube comment box alone.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Personally, I think the midway between ST and 3S is great. It has the qualities of both that I enjoy. Who says you need a parry system for it to be great? I mean it makes it more balanced, but it isn't necessary. It's much less strict than ST. Overall I think the game is tremendous, just a tad bit unbalanced. In 3S and ST you could get away with playing mid/low tier characters, not so much with SF4.
triferno 2 years ago
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I don't give a fuck about your worthless opinion, I never asked for it.
HAHAHAHAHJAGAGHHADFASHGAAA "BALANCED" You have GOT to be fucking joking, all you need to win is to spam tiger shots with Sagat and mix it up with tiger knee, then confirm his ultra with a fucking standing roundhouse. If this game can be called balanced then elephants can be called "petite". It tries to be a midway between SF2 and SF3, ends up leeching off both and surpassing neither.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Agree. Sagat makes a mockery of so-called 'high level play'. The tiger shots are so fast that trying to focus cancel past one'll get you hit by the next, trying to jump over them lines you up perfectly for a tiger knee/uppercut. And why are they so POWERFUL?
Don't get me wrong, I like streetfighter 4, but it is unbalanced as fuck. And guess what kiddos... you learn to get past the fireballs and block the knee... you've still got the rest of Sagat's moves to worry about.
XZoneCiderpowered 2 years ago 4
did you know sagat is the only S tier character in the game? if you know nething about strret fighter, sagat was the boss in SF1 technically through the SF series Sagat has only been beaten once... by ryu..
ibanedfrmrs2 2 years ago
I guess with a track record like that I can't blame him for getting so mad then. Seriously, the way he shouts 'RYUUUUUUUUU!!!' is possibly my favourite thing in the entire game
XZoneCiderpowered 2 years ago
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he was beaten by adon
BoD2k7 2 years ago
i said it was slighty UNBALANCED you fucking dumbass. and this game requires a lot of skill. have you ever tried playing C. Viper? if not, watch Joe from Japan. Shit gets so technical that Americans don't even know what to do with it.
triferno 2 years ago
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HAHAHAHA "skill" should never be mentioned in the same conversation that involves SF4. I saw that video where the fucking retarded Sagat player whiffed his ultra and let go of his controller thinking he won only to lose to a Viper player. The people who play this game seriously are total fucking idiots and will never enjoy a TRUE street fighter game that requires actual skill to be good at. You would never be able to pull off a fireball spam in SF3, you'd be killed for it.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
If your really scrubby enough to exploit Sagat's gayness than i guess you really should keep getting your dick hard over 3S cuz thats not gonna work with the pros in SFIV cuz theyll keep finding a counter to your faggotness. And keep in mind that This SFIV is only the first version, theyre gonna make more and there only gonna get better. Dont reply back, im done talking to scrubs.
JUSTxINSANE 2 years ago 2
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Psh, yeah right, tell that to the other supposed "pros" online who I keep kicking their asses with Sagat, lol you're just some bitch who doesn't know JACK SHIT about street fighter. Enjoy your watered-down garbage fighter for babies dumbass
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
I find it funny how the Korean Champ is a Ryu, Japanese Champ is a Dhalsim, and the American Champ is a Rufus. None of them are Sagat's and yet you keep insisting that Sagat is what makes this game so easy, even though he gets raped in the hardest tournaments. Pros find counters to Sagat, they dont just sit there, bitch, and then say "Im going back to 3S". They actually find a way around it and thats what seperates scrubs from pros.
JUSTxINSANE 2 years ago 3
@PsychoJosh
actually the worst SF game of the whole series would be SF1. dont even ask me why but yes it is SF1. horrible game even though its a classic.
Chaldean4life91 1 year ago
I can agree with you on the fact that Sagat is beatable, but I honestly think he could use a slight nerf on his health, 1100 is high for a guy with so many pluses, my win ratio is 89% and I have around 1000 matches, I usually beat Sagat players, but he is Overpowered no doubt. Beatable but he needs a nerf big time.
Arkturasbalboa 2 years ago
Yah he really needs a nerf but at least hes not unbeatable, you know what i mean?
JUSTxINSANE 2 years ago
Yeah I don't have an issue with you there, fighting a good Sagat player feels like an uphill battle, but not impossible.
Arkturasbalboa 2 years ago
Anybody whining about fireballs should get better at avoiding them instead. I do whatever, if you dont like fireballs ill spam them at you as much as i can, im not playing games to show that i am something, im there to get the prize money, oh, and i also like to make grown men cry by beating them at the only thing they are "good" at. Hahahaha
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
I agree. There's a right and wrong way to do everything. Throwing FP projectiles and nothing else will probably get you wrecked, but if you know how to mix up the strenghths, pay attention to your spacing, and punish, it's a really good tactic. May not get the "respect" but really, are we playing to get the pat on the back at the end, or so we don't have to plunk another quarter in the machine?
It's funny, people will often say "oh that's so easy, anyone can do _____" ....but then they don't.
symmetryx 2 years ago
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And nice crack about my mother and my sister dumbass, I'm sure you're the epitome of wit in conversations with the rest of your 9 year old buddies back at elementary school lmao.
Spamming high tiger shots and mixing it up with tiger knees and standing roundhouses is seriously all you need to win at SF4. That's why all the top players do it, that's why this game is a joke. Enjoy your little Scrub Fighter 4, I'll be playing SF3, a game that requires a brain.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Hah now your just jealous wit is my specialty yes, and my little 9 year old friends still make more sense than psychos like you.
If you lose against fireball spammers, then its probably because you suck, when it comes to Scrub fighter 3 (since its in the same game series i suppose its named the same) i cant believe your actually playing a game that you do not have.
Oh and for the record, i am older than you. and don't you dis's my elementary high school now ;)
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
No, Scrub Fighter 4 is of a different series than Street Fighter 3, because the former is a shit game while the latter is unlabored flawlessness in gaming. I don't lose against fireball spammers, I AM one, and it's the most retardedly efficient way of winning possible, which proves that this game is utter garbage.
Oh, and you're older than me? That only means you were held back all those years because you're still without a doubt a stupid 5th grader who won't amount to anything ever. Lmao
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Hey man, how about we leave the insults away? Your comments have some interesting arguments after all, besides im not much about defending either one of the games anyways.
I use bison on sf4, and while i am not good, i still beat a spammer now and then, why are we even fighting over this? I mean its all Capcom`s fault =P
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
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Video games are for kids. Do something better with your lives. Why don't you try ironing your clothes or making cereal. See how big you talk then.
sacksbaby 2 years ago
OH noes! Im not a fighting game guru! Well buhu, im talking about life. Lol your such a SF3 Winner my friend oh yes... but by your irrational behavior on line, you have proven that you probably need to increase your medication to last in real life. Stay in the past with your little outdated games yes. Because that is the only place you belong. Oh id last for ten seconds, but then id probably long since seduced your mother and your sister. Oh, im such a FUCKING loser... oh yes... thats the way.
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
"Outdated" lol, yeah keep acting like perfect games age you scrub-ass idiot. If that were the case then people would've stopped playing SF2 a long time ago, but guess what, THEY STILL play it in tournaments regardless of what pathetic and unimportant opinions little fighting game rookies like you may have. Nice joke about me being medicated though, I'm sure that's totally not a projection of your own ADHD-errogenous struggle deep within your ritalin-laced soul, which is why you like SF4 so much.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
Just for the record: Scrub-ass idiot is one of the better funnier insults i have ever heard. Lol. Your cool Psycho, i enjoyed our debate, oh your much better than sacksbaby thats for sure.
Gamelvl84 2 years ago
XxrotaryxX PSN if want a kick in the butt!!
josephayal 2 years ago
that match was one sided.
crapzors 2 years ago
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Well If I Cant Play Him I'll Play You Losers.. Till I Get To Him. Hell I Just Want To Play The Best Japan Has. Even Alex Id Like To Play Him. They Are Street Fighter. All Yall Are Chumps . I Used 2 Play Arcade But As I Grew The Machines Were Recalled Or Some Shit. I Play On DC.
dan420956 3 years ago
Capitalizing Every Word Makes You Cool. Or Ignorant. Probably Ignorant.
Chainsawsb 3 years ago 3
jesus christ u r stupid
animeluva420 2 years ago
What Is Daigos Gamer ID.. I Wanna Play This Guy See What The Hype Is About.
dan420956 3 years ago
He probably plays only arcade with other good pros and not online scrubs.
raxzar 3 years ago
he plays arcade, lol @ online, hes a real pro not some online faggot
N1GWANNNAC1G 3 years ago
His gamer ID? Like he'd waste his time playing online against you.
Xuzial 3 years ago
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OSK321 2 years ago
lol ok like thats gonna happen
BUDDAz1g 2 years ago
His online id is daigo, ive played him and he wooped my ass just like he wooped sonic boom ass. mann when he raped me i farted on the mic that was his present from me. i played him 10 rounds, the outcome was 3 - 10 for daigo
PSTRIPPLEE 2 years ago
unwatchable
OldEQlvl60 3 years ago
I can never pull of that cancel into Ultra on the shitty 360 controller.
*sigh* I need an arcade stick.
FCSugaFree 3 years ago 3
"I can never pull of that cancel into Ultra on the shitty 360 controller.
*sigh* I need an arcade stick. "
I feel your pain...
RottingYoda 3 years ago
well I dont recommend the 360 arcade things.. only because if you're a rough player that goes hardcore on the stick.. it'll move.. so you have to put it in a steady place and have atleast 10 pounds of gravity pulling it down for it to not freaking move
rediance 3 years ago
bad encoding rated 1
c4rwr3ck 3 years ago
Daigo's great.
DDRSN2 3 years ago
ULTRA!!!! ULTRA!!!!! ULTRA!!!!!!!!
giohell666 3 years ago
come on guys this is a sf4 vid.
we should talk about sf in this vid.
i'm a smash bros player too, and i'm WAY better at smash bros than sf, but this is a sf vid, k? =)
Jolly2Lolly 3 years ago 4
i agree.
i'm a hardcore SSBM player, about an hour a day.
and i started watching tons of street fighter 3 and now 4 videos because i want to branch out.
respect.
paralasalud 3 years ago
id hate to meet daigo in a dark alley with a arcade in it
kidomaru133 3 years ago 36
lol
SprunkG 3 years ago
LOL...
Berserk0080 3 years ago
haha, nice one..rofl..
Jucain 3 years ago
I did once. I got raped
HyperSonicXtreme 3 years ago
I know the feeling. I play against zak in the U.K. he's U.K # 1 and he uses sagat so... ya... i get raped all the time. hows daigo in person tho?
PapaLeGrand 3 years ago
this.
RenzAngelz 3 years ago
LOL!
atronix 3 years ago
lmfao
BUDDAz1g 2 years ago
better than hot chiks dirty panties
josephayal 3 years ago
i guess tats Daigo's signature move, shoryuken then ex cancel for the ultra jeje Daigo is a beast
Saleen787 3 years ago
This video is about SF IV. So, take care smash bros. bullshit outta here
Vash397 3 years ago 3
omg shut up nerds!
mloclam7 3 years ago
Im far from a nerd, I was just posting my opinion. 4 Year war veteren, OIF 5-7
mercsan117 3 years ago
All of those FADC into Ultras are just crazy, that's some fast reaction time.
jynxycats 3 years ago
The complaints about comparing Smash Bros to SF is stupid. They're two completely different games, therefore you can't really compare them that easily. That's like SF has less depth than Counter-Strike. You just can't say anything because one is a 1v1 game, the other is team-based, and not even a fighter.
"Traditional" does not equal "Non-Traditional" they aren't comparable.
outtaideas 3 years ago 3
1 question why didn't that ultra hadouken not kill guile my mind is boggled
gokumadara 3 years ago
damage scaling, making it noob friendly
pinkt1t5 3 years ago
great to see my man daigo using ryu again.. it sucked watching him use ken for sf3.
KOkun 3 years ago
Can't wait for this game. One month to go...
brucenatelee 3 years ago
wow how did ssbm even get into a comment page of a street fighter vid i wouldnt even put ssbm on the same shelf as any sf game. i mean ssbm is fun when ur bored and tired or playing against ur 6yr old brother.
enagamer 3 years ago
It's actually more complicated than you think. There's a video that tells you all this shit on how to play at pro level, but it don't even mention the things you must know for each individual character. With just what the in-game tutorial teaches you, yeah, it's very boring and childish. But with all the tricks, you'll be practicing for months and probably still won't master some things. Just saying.
brucenatelee 3 years ago
LOL oh I'm sorry, I just don't like it when people talk down amazing games. :P
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
You guys should watch Super Smash Bros Metagame. All 30 minutes of it.
Then come back and try to say that SSBM doesn't have depth, or combos, or that it's not a tourney level game.
RJay12291 3 years ago
o.O why did i get a comment message on this. this is truth, i agry.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
ehhhh man that was an epic argument, I'm a melee tourney player and it hurt to read some peoples thoughts on melee, saying it has no depth??? its like ouch man, ive played the game since '01, competitively since '05, and I still learn more and more about the game.
I am just now getting into sf (this game looks awesome, figured its a good time). but after melee, every other game kind of feels like eating cake to learn. waveshining, pillaring, chainthrows, etc, etc, etc, I LOVE THAT SHIT
gordonice 3 years ago
SSB is for children. Hence its home being on the Nintendo console.
Do the math. <_<
Sablicious 3 years ago
oh yeah?! well I am a child then. a very happy, fulfilled child.
I hope you enjoy being an adult, making money and climbing the corporate ladder and playing bills and supporting your porn addiction and shit.
and I hate math, math is for people like you. YOU do the math!
gordonice 3 years ago
My point exactly... >_>
Sablicious 3 years ago
tell EM!!!
rediance 3 years ago
I played SSB melee alot, but after I got hip to street fighter 3 third strike, ill never go back to another 3d fighter ever again.
mercsan117 3 years ago 2
mercsan117 you never played Melee if you say its a 3d fighter...
Melee (the SSB series as a whole) is simple to control but hard to master. The tech is not as complicated and most serious players would admit that. The game is more relient on mindgames and a more open and dynamic fighting system.
Enjoy SF more if you want thats fine, but to completely disregard a legitimate fighter with depth and a huge competetive scene just seems... scruby
TheWoebegoneJackal 3 years ago
Did you not read the part where I said I played it alot? The characters and environment are 3d, but you cannot side step obviously.
I didnt say anything about SSB not being a great game. It is that in fact. I just said Melee is better than brawl, but SF3TS is one of the best competition fighters out there.
mercsan117 3 years ago 2
melee is 10 times better than brawl
Thunderbolt210 3 years ago
Both have mind games. Only 1 has tech skill, adding speed to the game, increasing how fast you have to think and make decisions. Yes Melee > Brawl.
Zellieth 3 years ago
Melee is 3d but it's flatscreen just like all of the street fighters and ssb. SSBM requires a lot of mindgames at high level play but you need at least basic tech skills as well. i.e. if you can't shuffle then an average player who can will wreck you.
Zellieth 3 years ago
what are you talking about who cares....melee was just more fun to play...idc about mind games its a game..i just had more fun with melee than i did with brawl. brawl was good, melee was perfect
Thunderbolt210 3 years ago
I'm not talking shit or anything but you do know that street fighter 4 is just 3d graphics right.
Its still remains strickly classic 2d play.
Wildawg100 3 years ago
I know that.
mercsan117 3 years ago
yeah thats why people love it retard looool
EnglishTea87 3 years ago
I wasnt talking to you bitch!
Wildawg100 3 years ago
Yes, that's why we love it! ^_^
Abenddammerung 3 years ago
Good does not mean Tournament level. Good just means you are decent at the game and know how to play Street Fighter. Please dont bring these petty arguements on Youtube. If your good then that is fine, but there a million and one players who are also good. Tournament level means your known in the gaming world such as: Daigo, Justin Wong, Alex Valle, Kuroda, Nuki, J, KO, Harmonaz, Yuki Otoko, Pyro Lee, Ryan Hart, Zak, Vision etc the list goes on. If your not here then you are not tournament lvl
Oz1rajah 3 years ago
thank you!!! OZ1rajah at least you understand what i mean when i say "Good". That weird guy named Strongbad338guy kept saying dumb shit when all i said is that im "good" at SSBM and i didnt say tourney level. well at least ur understanding.
And i dont know how the hell SSBM got into this vid seriously they are like 2 completely different games
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago 2
Lmao yeah i know, i was reading the posts and thought "wtf is going on here." People have too much anger these days, they read something and prove how hard they by dissing others. Lol, Tourny lvl of play is a new class of SF lol. I have played the big boys at battle of Destiny and once at SBO in Japan (casual matches) and got owned. They are too fast for me, but all good fun. Keep rocking dude. xx
Oz1rajah 3 years ago
What are you guys arguing about ? Not even one of you douchebags plays tournament level...
DeeLiciouzZzZ 3 years ago
at what game?
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
Playing both of them, SSBM is kids stuff compared to the SF seriously i dont know why you guys would compare them.
SF you can do combos, parrys, counters, and is an actual fighting game. SSBM's moves are easy to pull off(Left+A, Right+B) the best thing is probably just the dodge move(which requires the right timing) other than that just hop around and try to hit each other.
SF took me like a month to actually be good at it(master combos, parrys, counters,) while SSBM took me like 4-5 days
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
you mastered SF3 in a month? I call bullshit on that. SSBM is its own game after playing for a month, there is a lot of depth to be had in it. Howeverf with that said i much prefer SF.
pinkt1t5 3 years ago
well okay i was over exaggerating it took me a longer but i played almost everyday (5-7 times a week) when i say mastering i meant like to know combos, counters, and parrying attacks and super combos (although i still have trouble parrying chung li, makoto, necro, twelve, yang, dudley, and Q's super combos) but seriously SF has way more depth in gameplay than SSBM(SSBB killed the series gameplay depth).
well anyway gotta get ready for SF4 cause it aint like SF3 anymore.....
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
i also call bullshit that it took you 4-5 days to be good at ssbm. i can give you a month and i guarantee that you will not come close to "master" ssbm and their advanced techniques lol.
don't get me wrong fellas. i love SF, but this kid doesn't know what he's talking about lol.
dryftz 3 years ago
I didnt say i mastered SSBM in 4-5 days, I said i got good at it dude. and dont get me wrong its not that i dont like SSBM im just saying SF requires more skill
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
Ever been to a SSBM tourney? Did you place in the top 5? Do you honestly think that you have become good at SSBM in 4-5 days? I call bullshit, unless by good you mean you can beat scrubs which isn't anything to be proud of.
BloodyPuppy 3 years ago
yup its mad hard.. you think your good unless you go to a tourney... everyone does that..
killerwill55 3 years ago
the dodge move? fucking christ you know nothing about SSBM. it's wavedashing, if you don't even know that you can't say jack shit about the Melee metagame and how absolutely insane it is. I'm pretty good at Melee and have played for 3 years but players like Mew2king, Cactuar, Darkrain, etc. tear me up like I'm nothing.
shut the fuck up.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
lol well thats what i call it at least you know what i mean.....AND DAMN!!! i said im good at it!! i didnt say i mastered it or said im a tourney level on the game. the fucks wrong with you people assuming shit lol probably even one of you people here can beat me. IM NO PRO!! alright?? i didnt say i was. So stop saying shit already lol
SF: requires more skills
SSBM: less skills than SF (i got "Good" at it in 4-5 days)
thats all i said at first comment and now it turned into this. lol freaks
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
"good" means tournament level. you can be the best in your town and still suck like hell.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
lol see there you go again. i didnt even say i was the best in town you said that yourself. quit assuming shit already dumbass
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
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you said.
"good."
"good" means "good," no matter how you spin it. "good" means tournament level. you are not tournament level. thus, you are a liar.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
So if someone says "hey that guys good at SSBM!!! and that guy over there is pretty good too!!" that means he's a tourney level guy??? LOL man your funny. i hear everyone saying that to each other. And i am a liar?? so are you trying to say that "I Am" a tourney level guy since i said im "Good" lol ok im a tourney level guy feel better now?? lol
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
it seems your definition of "good" is "a basic understanding of AT's, how they work, and how to do them," which you can indeed learn in 5 days. in any game. the actual definition of "good" is being able to use those AT's naturally and at the right times depending on the situation, and that takes months of experience.
don't get me wrong, Street Fighter rocks, but don't think SSBM is a noob game. it has way more depth than Street Fighter any day.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
well you'll get everyone confused by saying that. you should just use pro, expert, or you can just say tourney level thats way more understanding than saying "good" for tourney level. well anyway
SF: custom combos, parrys(air parrys), specials, counters, guard(high and low), moves are harder to perform, uses 6 buttons(light, med, strong punch or kick) and longer learning depth
SSBM: Combos(A+A,A+B??), easy to perform moves, use 4 buttons, dodge/wavedashing
SSBM more depth?? i dont think so
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
That's over-simplifying things a bit too much. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Smash was MORE complicated than a traditional fighter like SF, but it is a deep fighting engine. You have to take into consideration things like edge guarding, and no, the combos in the game aren't as simple as A+A, there's lots of juggles and things like chain throws etc. etc.
notBowen 3 years ago
you can NOT say that a game has more depths because of buttons. just stop talking right there.
edgeguarding, hitstun, blastlines, stages, 25 ridiculously different characters with different comboabilities and able-to-be-combo-ability (srry couldn't think of a word), falling speeds, recoveries, juggles, mindgames, etc.
no, don't even /try/ to simplify such a deep game to such a ridiculously vague point.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
lol man nvm this will never end your just a lil fanboy of SSBM and think it has more depth and I like SF more and think it has more depth(and most people here would agree)so no use talkin anymore cause we're both gonna stick to our sides. If you have more to say, chat it out at a SSBM fanboy video page cause this is a SF video here
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
SSBM has a lot more depth than you may think. I can't even say all the shit you must know to have a chance at tournament level. Street Fighter will always be the king of 2D/2.5D fighters, but Melee ain't easy at all compared to what I've seen in tornaments. Most moves require you to do shit in less than 2 frames, and it moves around 60 frames per second.
brucenatelee 3 years ago
oh.......i dont really care. I know SSBM has depth but im just saying (in my opinion!!!) that SF has more depth. well just dont take it personally cause everyone has their own opinions
KeybladeHero01 3 years ago
both the street fighter series and smash bros series are awesome. while the gameplay is completely different, they are/(can be) tournament level games. anyone interested should look into the tournament level play of both games before making judgemnts. that's where both games shine. nuff said.
dryftz 3 years ago
tournament level play is what ruins the games...
im sick of seing vids of people spamming projectiles it doesnt flow its just who gets lucky
kazlaz 3 years ago
LOL everything you saw happen in that match, or any high level sf match involving people like daigo was entirely premeditated. Lucky only comes into play when people guess and throw out a dragon punch or something like that which 9 times out of 10 you get punished when you miss so your point is invalid sir!!!!!!
naretev 3 years ago