@perla51 They were short staffed in the license plate factory, so they needed him to lend a helping hand until he was eligible for retirement. And for his retirement party ... well let's just say, it went off with a bang. Actually 4 bangs, but who's counting, right?
@FiREFLYSerenity408 Yesss but in all these years,parents of victims can die and so they haven't satisfaction to see murderer executed!!! It's long long time,it seems a sentence life no death penalty. Best regards Perla.
@perla51 That is true. And next week, the state of Florida will execute a cop killer after 33 years?! He was suppose to be executed on August 2nd, but his sentence was delayed because of a bunch of lethal injection drug protocol that went through the courts. Yesterday, after receiving information about the drug protocol, the Florida Supreme Court says that Manuel Valle who murdered a police officer in Coral Gables in 1978 can be put to death. WOO-HOO!!! Can't wait to see justice serve.
this is my philosophy and its simple a person who kills, rapes and child molest should be shot. Its simple and cheap. I dont get what makes it not inhumane. If a dog is attacking you or anything you kill it. Its earth people get use to it .
wow, execution expensive ? its a 1 time thing wtf your tax payments would still be going to his ass to rot in jail for life which is actually more expensive
I can't belivieve it. I just can't believe it! I'm crying right now, a lot. But not for that Ronnie Lee Gardner, not for him, but for humanity. What is happening to us? We are too blind to see that we are going from bad to worse. My question is: who has the right to decide if a person should live or not? Mr Lee didn't but neither those members of the Supreme Court. They should be ashamed of what they did.
@ClementinaJH people with the power have the right to. When I say "the right", I mean an ability to carrie something out indifferent to to vocal protest and impervious to physical intervention. I'm sorry but tears don't stop bullets.
@Ravengaurd6 I would not have called that "the right", just "the stupidity". And I do know tears don't stop bullets, but i'm just a seventeen-years-old girl and the only thing I can do is to have compassion for that man.
The american prison system is nothing more than a sadistic story. Inmates do not have enough opportunities to proof the good in them. A death penalty is not making it better. Even here in Europe we don't have the death penalty anymore. The american laws show no tolerance!
i dont understand all these liberals with the death penalty. they say oh its wrong when it happens to someone else. But when it comes their way, they're the 1st people crying for justice. He killed two people he deserves to die. The country is taking tax payers money simply on the fact that these liberal retards are crying that oh he killed someone he should be spared. Bullshit.
A judge who didnt want the death penalty!!! Why kill a man when you can lock him up for life and make shit loads of money off him. The law society are the biggest bunch of criminals in the world.
they say to execute someone by firing squad is expensive? $0.37 around,$0.20Blank round 5 Shooters total. $1.68 . I say Beats $9,000.00 a year per inmate
@08RyanC When a person murders someone in cold blood, I don't care if they change later. They deserve death anyway. Once someone passes the moral event horizon of willingly taking another person's life, they don't get another chance. They can become a SAINT, and I will still look forward to their day in the electric chair.
A 'poor decision' is getting a bad haircut in High School that people laugh at 15 years later. Murdering another human being is more than a 'poor decision' or a 'mistake.'
@99boyz I'm someone who doesn't believe in wasting sympathy on people who don't deserve it. I'm sick of seeing murderers getting candlelight vigils before they're executed, while the people they killed get nothing of the sort. It's a very backwards society we live in when cold-blooded killers receive such consideration and compassion.
Compassion is for the innocent, and for good, upstanding people. Not monsters.
And Im sick of seeing the Gov execute a man for killing one or a few and calling it justice....while they continue to kill millions...You speak of the innocent...That title is reserved for children...There are no innocent adults...We all have it coming for one reason or another
@timetodepop It IS justice. And what 'millions' do you speak of?
Innocent is the title reserved for any decent human being who is simply living their life, taking care of their family and friends, and harming no one. People who do not deserve to be brutally murdered by a psycho like Gardner. The ONLY proper treatment for men like Gardner is an ugly death.
"We all have it coming for one reason or another"
Bullshit. I don't. My parents don't. My grandparents don't. You might, but not everyone.
@outlier1985 "Innocent is the title reserved for any decent human being who is simply living their life, taking care of their family and friends, and harming no one"
Really?....Then as I suspected most everyone is guilty....When you drove to work this AM..You used gasoline...That gas came at the expense of the blood of soldiers and civilians....The things you do without thinking make you an accomplice to many things unthinkable...You do have it coming...We all do.
@timetodepop I'm sorry, but that doesn't count. Modern life requires that certain resources be used, nevermind how they are acquired. Simply shunning gasoline, electricity, every other resource you dislike will lead only to starvation.
The very fact that you're sticking up for someone who actually slaughtered people in cold blood, yet insist that innocent people somehow deserve death for doing so much as driving a car, shows how warped your logic is. Keep your insane hippie logic to yourself.
Im trying to expose irony here...People think they are innocent and can pass judgement on others..Speaking about me "sticking up for someone who slaughtered people in cold blood"..YOU probably voted for a few of them!...Ever hear of Bill Clinton?....George Bush?....The fact is we are all accomplices to the suffering of the world due to the lifestyle of excess we enjoy here..What will it take for us to hold ourselves accountable?
@timetodepop See, you're still talking as if your entire argument hasn't already been discredited solely through your position on the issues. The fact that you see people simply RIDING TO WORK as being as guilty as any violent killer, or the fact that you believe Kim Jong-il is actually a good leader or a person worthy of acclaim... these things say to me that you are either a troll, or an imbecile, and I have neither the time nor the patience to waste on either. Good day to you.
No...Im sorry...Its my fault that you are missing the point...My point is simple...The things we do without thinking...the things we think we must do in our society...Many of these things cause suffering or end up killing somebody...somehwere...The fact that we dont see the damage in front of our face doesn't mean we are not guilty...Kim Jong IL?...You took that post seriously?....Now I am beginning to question your intelligence
@outlier1985 yes he was a killer, but he was under the influence the first murder, escaped prison, and he knows himself wat he did was wrong, he was wrong for what he did, but that doesnt mean hes not a father, brother, and husband. he chose to die by gunfire, he said he killed with a gun, he should die by one. he died on my birthday last year and i dont have any idea who he is, but i still feel for him
@99boyz Not murder, Pinko, capital punishment, most capital indeed for a scumbag murderer. Now he will be punished eternally: in Hell where he belongs!
UnkleRonnie, c0y0tx, on behalf of those of us watching this in an attempt to get a little more perspective on this story than national media gave us: Please shut up! You both have computers and the internet obviously, so email nasty little barbs to one another instead of having your arguments here, which have no real impact on the matter at hand and have gone completely off the topic anyway. Thanks, :)
he who appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward he who cannot take care of himself without that law is both for a wounded man shall say to his assailant if i die you are forgiven but if i live i will kill you, such as the rule of honor
I understand your point, but these sentences are designed to be a deterrent. If you don't want it to happen to you, then don't offend! The choice is yours from the start, if your taking the quality of other peoples lives away from them (robbing their possesions, murdering, raping) you need to understand that the system is not going to tolerate it. Dogs would be put down if they attacked a human, why is this no more barbaric? Do you eat meat? Those animals died for your burger is this the same?
@TheMissFlorida you do know that people in jail get 3 meals a fricken day and cable tv... im glad this white trash faggot ot killed, i wud gladly be on fireing squad to kill this dusher
@TheMissFlorida Why worry about these filthy villainous scum anyway, they know the law, and the consequence for breaking it. These laws are for the benefit of everyone, if you choose to rob rape murder or whatever then human society should have no place for you. Nail em up i say, nail some sense into em
Maybe I've said it a hundred times, no judge of this world has the right to say,you killed somebody now you have to die too! No thats false, then he isnt better than him!
It is interesting that the US is one of the most religious first world countries and yet it is the only first world country that murders its own citizens.
BERLITZ777!!! I´m sorry i cant not very good english i live in germany. But you dont have to talk with me like this! I thing that no Judge of this world have the right do say that he can die! This is Gods job not of human! I hope he find his freedom!
Back in the days he`d been hung neck wise from a tall tree in the first place..not contained for some 25 odd years, and then hung. And he should have performed his killing spree in a friendlier state, if he wished to be spared. KILL !
Punishment should always come with the possibility of showing remorse and a good opportunity to better yourself afterwards. If you're not gonna provide that chance, then why bother keeping him alive? You'd better kill all criminals that you don't see hope of improvement in.
Look at it this way, We get rid of a dog when it bites a person because it poses a huge threat to society. This monster tried to escape a courthouse at the expense of living life! IT"S not about you or me or everyone its about the victims and family. If someone close to you is killed by a scum like this guy you would want this punished. YES I UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL KILLING SOMEONE BUT WE DO IT TO EVEN ANIMALS THAT GET OUT OF LINE.
Meu pais sofre por nao ter penas severas. Gostaria que o Brasil pudesse ter um judiciario melhor e justo para matar esse bando de delinquentes que aqui sustentamos.
Times have changed and so have methods to punish criminals. But the problem remains: prinsons are used to lock away criminals and not rehab them for a possible release as upright civilians.
Cost 44.000 dollars yr to keep this bastards alive. All killers and child molesters should be executed. I dont care if they have to raise my taxes, soons it is invested in education... I will be ok about it... but drives me nuts knowing that over 15% that what I pay in taxes are invested in this assholes that had done nothing for our society .
u know were else ur money goes the sick butholes who volenteered to shot him there was a lottery to see who got to shot him and if your gonna kill someone out of volenteering then have the guts to look him in the eyes not cover his head with a bag and make it so u dont know if ur t/he one who killed him or not the men firing the guns are sick.
Excuses excuses excuses... I hope nobody never does that to your family, but if was your mother that he killed, I would see if you were saying that to me.
Took 25 yrs to kill that bastard, how long did he take to kill other ones? By the way, was he pressure to do what he did? Was he forced to killed those people?
NOOOOOOOOOOO... I rather have my money going to help veterans with mental problems, hungry kids, poor elderly people, than supporting a bastard like him in prison
@IronLion27 I'm not sure where you read that.Regardless,it would've been ridiculous in this situation to destroy the head of this man. Or any inmate under this method of execution. It is already a method that is deemed archaic;even though it it probably the most humane.You must understand how a life form reacts to death. The media flinched at the fact that his body twitched after the shots.Of course it would.They do not understand death, as it has never been presented to them before. Until now.
I wouldn't dare to say that I would not have become a murderer if my life were like his.
It's inevitable that every now and then, our (far from flawless) society will bring forth a muderer. The question is, should we punish the guy who is unlucky enough to be the 'chosen one'. I believe, that we are all born equal. If life and circumstances develop people into murderers, it's our society that is to blame.
Murderers are in every one of us. just put yourself in the right situation, and I guarantee you, we can get any one of us to kill someone. The question is, in how far can we blame those who get in such a situation?
This guy, as I understand, has had a terrible youth, being drug addicted at ten. He's been victim to battery as a teenager. Should we expect him to grow up to be a good man? If we had such a youth, would we be 'proper' civilians?
I agree with you. We are victims of our circumstances...the sane ones with a strong will come out alive while the troubled ones make the wrong choices.
This should be the punishment for any politician caught in a campaaign lie! How many people do you think have been killed by the Washington Elite with all the deals, wars, backstabbing and political friends. This guy ruined his life and that of another. What is the punishment for ruining a country??
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.
@BrightLight57 I'm not religious, didn't even know this quote. But it's beautiful. This shows the essence of the issue. Do we treat criminals as if we would never ever possibly become one ourselves? Or do we treat them like human beings, and try to help him, and believe that in every person there is something good.
I think death penalty is a cowardly, egoïstic option. It's easy to look away as a society. It takes balls to look and confront the shit you as society produce.
@TheMissFlorida.... Shut up you fool. You feel sorry for the KILLER.. What about the innocent man he murdered? He shot Michael Burdell to death, dumb ass. I hope you join him in hell you stupid cunt. And yeah I said it.
@Berlitz777 they way u talk it sound u will be the first to enter hell. Do you think if somebody kill 4 people it will be fear for him to be killed too?? simple 4-1=3 , he will lost one soul but what about other three souls???? Only God can judge in perfect. Yes he was murder and thats is sadness but there is no human have right to judge other human.
Ich finde das unmöglich was diese amis da machen. Diese richter die für sein tod verantwortlich sind,sind die grössten mörder überhaupt! Ich hoffe das Lee Gardner seinen Frieden gefunden hat!!!
I myself think life in prison without chance of parole is the most just penalty. Let them live in a cage for the rest of their lives and think about what they did. Perhaps they will learn something from it and enlighten their souls before their life ends...probably not most often but I think its the right thing to do.
@braineater316 That's exactly what happened to an inmate I knew. He was put in a small cell and only went out for 1 hour a day. He was on death row at the time. He kiiled lots of people, and while he was getting free room and board, his victims' family were suffering and paying taxes to keep him alive and well. He had no remorse and even threatened his wife and kids. He was finally executed and his wife felt a sigh of relief. He also escaped prison in the past.
I think the families of the victims should choose the type of execution. If you take someones life beyond all doubt you should forfeit your right to life. The 5th commandment says "Thou shalt not murder".The protestors would feel different if one of their family members were randomly slaughtered.
@Tardisius the female protestor at the end is the daughter of a victim, and the other lady shown was the girlfriend of a victim, and they both still refuse to favor the death penalty.
@Speedylightning Exactly. There was a book by Antoinette Bosco called "Choosing Mercy". Her child was killed and yet she wrote a book against the death penalty. This isn't "justice", this is malice.
On Gardner's death certificate, it will read "Homicide" as the cause of death. The legal system, however, apparently has determined it to be justifiable.
@siralexu the bullets are, the way the system works now. Life in prison costs roughly $500,000, while the "bullet" costed $2-3 million dollars, factoring in courts and appeals and lawyers and all that.
@KingOfCrunk42 At least in the California state prison system it costs approximately $50,000 per inmate per year to be incarcerated. For a lifer, that can possibly add up to more than 2-3 million. Just a simple observation... Though, add that to the stuff you brought up and that is a lot of damn money.
And if you *really* think that there aren't many wrongful executions, look up the innocence project. There have been 254 post-conviction DNA exonerations in the United States, and who knows how many have been wrongfully executed besides that. With life in jail, they have a chance to correct their mistakes. Just because someone pleads "guilty" does NOT mean they are guilty (I know this having experienced it firsthand).
R.I.P Ronnie. All those in support of this, just remember... Killing IS killing. It may be justified in your eyes, but killing is killing. "An eye for an eye leaves the world blind"
@rushthebunker-thats the argument i hear all the time.Kill him and we r going to be in one safe world! Executing him doesnt make things right. Instead make him realize his mistake and make him pay for his mistake in this life time.Get him to do community work and serve the society from jail or something.Executing him does not stop other gardners in this world.The fact is no matter what the punishment is there will be crazy people in this world.What we need to talk about is how to minimze crimes
Lethal injection is not some humane wonder. It's a display of technology; statement about the 'professionalism' of the justice system.
The way Americans say "We may be one of the only Western nations with the death penalty, but we're not like those savages that do hangings and shootings anymore."
Of course we're the only country to use the most evil method of all too, Old Sparky. Winston Churchill wanted to borrow one for Hitler if he hadn't killed himself, actually.
eye for an eye tooth for a tooth. I have only heard of one person who was innocent and was executed acouple of years ago. I do not have a problem with this guy dieing
@BlakByte They keep them for years and years on death row with extra protection. They can appeal for years, and the cost is payed for by the taxpayers. It makes more sense to lock them up and keep them in prison for life.
HAVE THE BALLS TO KILL HAVE IT WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE EXECUTION ROOM. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU ITS ABOUT THE FAMILY GETTING THE MONSTER TO FEEL THE PAIN HE CAUSED. FEAR THE BULLET GO THROUGH YOU. HE KNEW IT TOO SO HE CHOOSE TO BE KILLED BY THE SAME METHOD
for me the most disturbing thing about the death penalty is the fact that there are innocent people being killed. they may be few and far between, but killing an innocent person is barbaric and completely unjustifiable under any circumstances. this is especially true when they have to live with the fact that they will die for years, all while being locked up in a tiny cell. there is absolutely no excuse for something like that.
@vetle666 There are people who have gone through those experiences and worse, but you don't see them murdering innocent people. What happens if one day he escapes prison and kills again? I knew a guy just like that. He was on death row, escaped and murdered a cop. While on the run him and his buddy decided to rob a business and kill the manager. After years and years on death row, he was finally executed. He was a cold-hearted killer and cared about no one, not even his own family.
@Fianna10 I knew a guy who was in death row for murdering several people. Guess what? He escaped from different prisons 3 times and killed again. During the victim's funeral, he would show up with a smile on his face and then quickly leave. He also robbed banks, armored trucks and all sorts of crimes, and the FBI was always on his track. The guy thought he was invinciible until they finally executed him with lethal injection. Chances of him to kill again...nill.
@bklynAtrain I knew a guy on death row that was a father of 2 and had no previous convictions. 16 years after his trial and 3 years after his execution DNA evidence showed that he was completely innocent. Chances of him to live again.....nill.
Why is it ok for the government to kill people but not ok for everyone else to?
@Fianna10 I am ALL for DNA evidence, but I am not talking about executing innocent people. The guy I knew was a known killer. One day he got upset with his wife because she couldn't visit him every week. He wrote her a letter and threatened to kill her and his own children. His wife told me she was afraid that he might send someone to kill them. Anyway, she can rest now that he's gone. His chances of escaping and killing her and the kids....nil.
@bklynAtrain my point is - the justice system in fallible, it makes mistakes. So when you kill people as punishment you have no way back. Also the whole eye for an eye method doesn't make any sense. You murdered someone so we're gonna murder you??? WTF? Nobody has the right to dish out death. Lock em up and throw away the key.
I guess you don't realize it costs (US TAXPAYERS) 40k + a year to house and feed these clowns. 40k a year, per inmate. Most of them are failures who don't know anything other than crime.
This guy willfully took an innocent human's life so he could escape. In prison, this guy was learning, socializing, playing games..living. The lawyer he murdered can't do that anymore. And you want to keep paying for this guy to be alive for another 30 years in jail? You're crazy
@Enderwiggan1 Lock em up and throw away the key? That's exactly what they did to a guy I know, and guess what? He escaped and killed again. As a matter of fact, he had escaped 3 times before they finally put him in a cell where he was watched 24/7 on camera. This guy even had families murdered, including children. He was executed, and now we don't have to worry about him anymore.
"Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted." Galatians 6:1
@ordinaryman1982 DITTO!!!!! Watch that Larry King interview with his sister and older brother. I think that's what they said. His sister is one tatted up, pile of crap. Reminds me of what they call "trailer trash". Or trailer park trash.
BRAVO!!!!! Another scumbag off the face of the earth. I watched a CNN/Larry King interview with his brother and sister a little bit ago, I think they were. His brother looked 'normal' enough. His sister is a tatted up, trailer park looking piece of what I'd call 'white trash'. I'm white myself but, have ZERO sympathy for death row scumbags. Clean the slate once and for all. I could care less what race they are.
The death penalty gives the condemned an easy way out! If it were up to me I would abolish capital punishment and these convicts would get nothing in prison while serving life terms - no television, no radio, no internet, no weight lifting equipment, no special provisions like tobacco or conjugal or family/friend visits ... nothing but 12 hours of extreme physical labor every day, 365 days a year, and the ACLU or anyone else who would feel sorry for these prisoners can take a hike!
@davetileguy Well, I wouldn't know but, I would imagine his heart - and, in his case it's ONLY a muscle - would likely look like a hunk of meat loaf. .30 caliber bullets will do that. I'm NOT a hunter anymore, NOR a hater but, I think that maggots who are murderers have NO, ZERO right to live behind bars forever. Get rid of ALL of them.
I'm sad for people that are executed and thats the way it should be for everyone, but then I think of their victims and for me it's s a matter of what is only fair. Eye for an eye, you've heard it said. For religious objectors…I interpret the Bible as: individual Man should not kill Individual man, but once the act has been committed, Government or Military with Gods blessing can and should execute.
Hey dudes, anyone know if Ronnie Lee Garner has 'A Facebook Page' or 'Twitter acct'? I want to tell him to have a nice Day! I cannot believe the bible beaters arguments in this video? Is it o.k. to execute an athiest? It God Damn well should be! If they're all dressed up with nowhere to go, who the Hell cares? How many of these protesters have had a family member murdered, daughter raped & stabbed to death etc.? How many?
Dude you know what crazy about this guy? he was going to court to get his sentence for killing a store clerk in a robbery attempt, he got lose and got a gun killing a lawyer and wounding a court officer that's what got him the death penalty don't quote me on this but i do believe the judge was going to give him twenty years for killing the clerk so if he would have keep still and not killed more people he would have been a free man for the past 5 years but NO bad choice there...
I wish they would broadcast Live executions because then everyone would see the horror,in-humanity,& hopefully making popcorn & cheering as I would. Before you 'hold a candlelight vigile' go to prodeathpenalty dot c and read this guys history.He's not fit to be in society & a habitual crim/murd.I have kids & glad to know (hopefully) he won't be around at noon tomorrow.He's escaped several times.If he was abused I'm sorry but you shoot mad dogs.I have no religious opinion regarding this...
I can understand those who are against the death penalty. Want I can't understand are the people who supposedly support the death penalty, but are against the use of a firing squad. The ammo is cheap, the heart is instantly pulverized, and it forces people, (and witnesses) to realize what they just saw: A man put to death for a heinous crime.
@Ralastar Very good points.I'm actually pro-Guillotine but people think it's way too 'Louis XVIth I do agree that poor people are sentence to death more than a rich white dudes'. Therefore, I think even tho' expensive, DNA (if present) evidence should be used if present. If 100% positive, they should shoot the person on trial thru' the head on the witness stand rather than let them appeal for 14 yrs. & 'find Jesus'. This is for violent crimes.
Ill tell you one thing Firing squad has to be one of the most humane if you would call it that, ways of execution. Think about, several highly trained marksmen putting 1 bullet directly into your head. Quick painless . Rather than lethal injection which at times has gone wrong and the person suffered tragically.
@parro311 Then I'll tell you what. How about we get one of the murderers on death row and let him live with you. You can shelter him, feed him, and even read him a bedtime story every night. After one or two hours with him, I'll guarantee you'd change your mind in a heart beat. Why have compassion for killers who laugh at their victims and doesn't care about anyone?
I don't know if you're American... But there's something between Shooting a person and living with one! they can stay in prisons... that's what they're for!
@MrStewart149 You know what negro, having a person in a prison cell for life is better than having death penalty. If someone kills a person on purpose for no reason, then he should die
why dont they do torture instead of a cheap way out.
ArmanStudios 1 month ago
He killed an attorney and he got the firing squad? I always thought you got a thank you card when you did that.
reymatt76 3 months ago
He was executed and the bullets killed him instantly. Better than lethal execution.
Cainkane1 4 months ago
@Cainkane1 Wish we could have tortured him, but it would've been too humane. To hell with him where he belongs!
MrRickywallace 2 months ago
defense liars? anyone else hear that?
amcfan84 4 months ago
But it's no long time for execution?? Why all this time?? 25 years!!!!
perla51 6 months ago
@perla51 They were short staffed in the license plate factory, so they needed him to lend a helping hand until he was eligible for retirement. And for his retirement party ... well let's just say, it went off with a bang. Actually 4 bangs, but who's counting, right?
reymatt76 3 months ago
THANK GOD he is dead!!!!!
FiREFLYSerenity408 7 months ago
@FiREFLYSerenity408 Yesss but in all these years,parents of victims can die and so they haven't satisfaction to see murderer executed!!! It's long long time,it seems a sentence life no death penalty. Best regards Perla.
perla51 6 months ago
@perla51 That is true. And next week, the state of Florida will execute a cop killer after 33 years?! He was suppose to be executed on August 2nd, but his sentence was delayed because of a bunch of lethal injection drug protocol that went through the courts. Yesterday, after receiving information about the drug protocol, the Florida Supreme Court says that Manuel Valle who murdered a police officer in Coral Gables in 1978 can be put to death. WOO-HOO!!! Can't wait to see justice serve.
FiREFLYSerenity408 6 months ago
@FiREFLYSerenity408 They need to show that on live TV :P
TheDevenrocks 4 months ago
@TheDevenrocks I agree!!
FiREFLYSerenity408 4 months ago
@TheDevenrocks Yeah, on Bill Maher, John Stewart, and David Letterman where they would've appreciated it the most!
MrRickywallace 2 months ago
@FiREFLYSerenity408 Why don't they give it about three months instead of wasting all those taxpayer dollars on filth?
MrRickywallace 2 months ago
@MrRickywallace Blame it on the ACLU left-wing loony law professor lawyers and people associated with them.
FiREFLYSerenity408 2 months ago
this is my philosophy and its simple a person who kills, rapes and child molest should be shot. Its simple and cheap. I dont get what makes it not inhumane. If a dog is attacking you or anything you kill it. Its earth people get use to it .
alen209 8 months ago
wow, execution expensive ? its a 1 time thing wtf your tax payments would still be going to his ass to rot in jail for life which is actually more expensive
XxchrisNj 11 months ago
I can't belivieve it. I just can't believe it! I'm crying right now, a lot. But not for that Ronnie Lee Gardner, not for him, but for humanity. What is happening to us? We are too blind to see that we are going from bad to worse. My question is: who has the right to decide if a person should live or not? Mr Lee didn't but neither those members of the Supreme Court. They should be ashamed of what they did.
ClementinaJH 1 year ago
@ClementinaJH people with the power have the right to. When I say "the right", I mean an ability to carrie something out indifferent to to vocal protest and impervious to physical intervention. I'm sorry but tears don't stop bullets.
Ravengaurd6 1 year ago
@Ravengaurd6 I would not have called that "the right", just "the stupidity". And I do know tears don't stop bullets, but i'm just a seventeen-years-old girl and the only thing I can do is to have compassion for that man.
ClementinaJH 11 months ago
Even if he had death then why didnt he just do life in jail
stupidcombatarmsvids 1 year ago
The american prison system is nothing more than a sadistic story. Inmates do not have enough opportunities to proof the good in them. A death penalty is not making it better. Even here in Europe we don't have the death penalty anymore. The american laws show no tolerance!
MrVandervlis 1 year ago
judge are asses,hate them there stupid and they play god,geezz
yvonnespearing 1 year ago
i dont understand all these liberals with the death penalty. they say oh its wrong when it happens to someone else. But when it comes their way, they're the 1st people crying for justice. He killed two people he deserves to die. The country is taking tax payers money simply on the fact that these liberal retards are crying that oh he killed someone he should be spared. Bullshit.
rubixlx0 1 year ago
A judge who didnt want the death penalty!!! Why kill a man when you can lock him up for life and make shit loads of money off him. The law society are the biggest bunch of criminals in the world.
DreamsCatcher101 1 year ago
they say to execute someone by firing squad is expensive? $0.37 around,$0.20Blank round 5 Shooters total. $1.68 . I say Beats $9,000.00 a year per inmate
propain1194 1 year ago
if someone killed me, I would not want someone else to kill them. so long as my family was safe "let it be" and "lock the murderer up"..
Holdencruze100 1 year ago
@08RyanC When a person murders someone in cold blood, I don't care if they change later. They deserve death anyway. Once someone passes the moral event horizon of willingly taking another person's life, they don't get another chance. They can become a SAINT, and I will still look forward to their day in the electric chair.
A 'poor decision' is getting a bad haircut in High School that people laugh at 15 years later. Murdering another human being is more than a 'poor decision' or a 'mistake.'
outlier1985 1 year ago
@outlier1985 Yes president
who do you think you are?
99boyz 1 year ago
@99boyz I'm someone who doesn't believe in wasting sympathy on people who don't deserve it. I'm sick of seeing murderers getting candlelight vigils before they're executed, while the people they killed get nothing of the sort. It's a very backwards society we live in when cold-blooded killers receive such consideration and compassion.
Compassion is for the innocent, and for good, upstanding people. Not monsters.
outlier1985 1 year ago 11
@outlier1985
And Im sick of seeing the Gov execute a man for killing one or a few and calling it justice....while they continue to kill millions...You speak of the innocent...That title is reserved for children...There are no innocent adults...We all have it coming for one reason or another
timetodepop 1 year ago
@timetodepop It IS justice. And what 'millions' do you speak of?
Innocent is the title reserved for any decent human being who is simply living their life, taking care of their family and friends, and harming no one. People who do not deserve to be brutally murdered by a psycho like Gardner. The ONLY proper treatment for men like Gardner is an ugly death.
"We all have it coming for one reason or another"
Bullshit. I don't. My parents don't. My grandparents don't. You might, but not everyone.
outlier1985 1 year ago
@outlier1985 "Innocent is the title reserved for any decent human being who is simply living their life, taking care of their family and friends, and harming no one"
Really?....Then as I suspected most everyone is guilty....When you drove to work this AM..You used gasoline...That gas came at the expense of the blood of soldiers and civilians....The things you do without thinking make you an accomplice to many things unthinkable...You do have it coming...We all do.
timetodepop 1 year ago
@timetodepop I'm sorry, but that doesn't count. Modern life requires that certain resources be used, nevermind how they are acquired. Simply shunning gasoline, electricity, every other resource you dislike will lead only to starvation.
The very fact that you're sticking up for someone who actually slaughtered people in cold blood, yet insist that innocent people somehow deserve death for doing so much as driving a car, shows how warped your logic is. Keep your insane hippie logic to yourself.
outlier1985 1 year ago
@outlier1985
Im trying to expose irony here...People think they are innocent and can pass judgement on others..Speaking about me "sticking up for someone who slaughtered people in cold blood"..YOU probably voted for a few of them!...Ever hear of Bill Clinton?....George Bush?....The fact is we are all accomplices to the suffering of the world due to the lifestyle of excess we enjoy here..What will it take for us to hold ourselves accountable?
timetodepop 1 year ago
@timetodepop See, you're still talking as if your entire argument hasn't already been discredited solely through your position on the issues. The fact that you see people simply RIDING TO WORK as being as guilty as any violent killer, or the fact that you believe Kim Jong-il is actually a good leader or a person worthy of acclaim... these things say to me that you are either a troll, or an imbecile, and I have neither the time nor the patience to waste on either. Good day to you.
outlier1985 1 year ago
@outlier1985
No...Im sorry...Its my fault that you are missing the point...My point is simple...The things we do without thinking...the things we think we must do in our society...Many of these things cause suffering or end up killing somebody...somehwere...The fact that we dont see the damage in front of our face doesn't mean we are not guilty...Kim Jong IL?...You took that post seriously?....Now I am beginning to question your intelligence
timetodepop 1 year ago
@outlier1985 compassion is for everyone, who is the one to judge someone worthy of compassion?
itkapatanka 11 months ago 4
@outlier1985 yes he was a killer, but he was under the influence the first murder, escaped prison, and he knows himself wat he did was wrong, he was wrong for what he did, but that doesnt mean hes not a father, brother, and husband. he chose to die by gunfire, he said he killed with a gun, he should die by one. he died on my birthday last year and i dont have any idea who he is, but i still feel for him
peanutguy4892 7 months ago
@outlier1985 so you think its ok for the state to Murder People (somtimes Innocent)
i suppose your infavor of Police Brutality To
99boyz 5 months ago
@99boyz Not murder, Pinko, capital punishment, most capital indeed for a scumbag murderer. Now he will be punished eternally: in Hell where he belongs!
MrRickywallace 2 months ago
@MrRickywallace i guess your walking around with a seeing eye dog then.
99boyz 2 months ago
@outlier1985 It's also kind of backwards to end someones life in cold blood because they ended someone elses though isnt it?
mikemoseley 1 day ago
And now this disgusting monster is rotting in hell. I hope the gunshot hurt.
outlier1985 1 year ago
people live your life cuz its pretty short , be happy from the little things in your lives and everything will be fine .im sure :))
GeorgiBonchev187 1 year ago 9
good he deserved it
69RunescapeFreak 1 year ago
lol that was my 1st exam (june 18)
bathbeads10 1 year ago
amnesty.org
stevefrancis1979 1 year ago
UnkleRonnie, c0y0tx, on behalf of those of us watching this in an attempt to get a little more perspective on this story than national media gave us: Please shut up! You both have computers and the internet obviously, so email nasty little barbs to one another instead of having your arguments here, which have no real impact on the matter at hand and have gone completely off the topic anyway. Thanks, :)
DocLeggz 1 year ago
he who appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward he who cannot take care of himself without that law is both for a wounded man shall say to his assailant if i die you are forgiven but if i live i will kill you, such as the rule of honor
tomas1176 1 year ago
I understand your point, but these sentences are designed to be a deterrent. If you don't want it to happen to you, then don't offend! The choice is yours from the start, if your taking the quality of other peoples lives away from them (robbing their possesions, murdering, raping) you need to understand that the system is not going to tolerate it. Dogs would be put down if they attacked a human, why is this no more barbaric? Do you eat meat? Those animals died for your burger is this the same?
SimboSays 1 year ago
AGAINST DEATH PENALTY!!!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
@TheMissFlorida you do know that people in jail get 3 meals a fricken day and cable tv... im glad this white trash faggot ot killed, i wud gladly be on fireing squad to kill this dusher
69RunescapeFreak 1 year ago
@69RunescapeFreak
your way to say something is very bad! I do not care what you like to do or not! I am Totally against death penalty!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
@TheMissFlorida Why worry about these filthy villainous scum anyway, they know the law, and the consequence for breaking it. These laws are for the benefit of everyone, if you choose to rob rape murder or whatever then human society should have no place for you. Nail em up i say, nail some sense into em
SimboSays 1 year ago
@SimboSays
Maybe I've said it a hundred times, no judge of this world has the right to say,you killed somebody now you have to die too! No thats false, then he isnt better than him!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
An eye for an eye leads to blindness
tinghaling 1 year ago
@tinghaling ... faggot
69RunescapeFreak 1 year ago
@69RunescapeFreak
Wow, you stoop so low to insult me, and at what point did I insult you?
You're seem like an intelligent young child, maybe you should get off your daddy's computer before he gets home from work?
tinghaling 1 year ago
My names Ronnie Lee too..
But im a jiggaboo so i wasnt named after him.
YounggJewelz 1 year ago
I have no problem with killing people who have killed others,
We have created a society where we all have to live within the rules,
Sooner they bring hanging back the better i say,
The cost to the tax payer keeping them alive over there life is a waist of money,
Hang shoot overdose who cares,
If there dead they can no longer harm others,
Plus they dont cost the tax payer money to keep them.
The guy was evil and deserved what he got
grumm70 1 year ago
@10mmTroy are yu a little frustrated?
63champ 1 year ago
It is interesting that the US is one of the most religious first world countries and yet it is the only first world country that murders its own citizens.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
Iam wondering: 'What gives humans the right to decide for an other human to live or die?'
LufthansaDAIGO 1 year ago
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what ever you say about this man one thing is for sure he is a -bad -ass -mother -FUCKER! damn firing squad that is some hardcore shit!
for not taking the easy way out with leathal injection i hope god forgives him "live by the gun die by the gun" hes a boss
mattmatt1102 1 year ago
I like how they stacked sandbags around the metal chair to keep the bullets from 'ricocheting' in the cinderblock, i found that interesting.
007MOORER 1 year ago
BERLITZ777!!! I´m sorry i cant not very good english i live in germany. But you dont have to talk with me like this! I thing that no Judge of this world have the right do say that he can die! This is Gods job not of human! I hope he find his freedom!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
@TheMissFlorida too late mah freind... too late. :(
Spectre3554 1 year ago
@Spectre3554
Yeah this is very bad what they do with him! They are much worser then him!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
Back in the days he`d been hung neck wise from a tall tree in the first place..not contained for some 25 odd years, and then hung. And he should have performed his killing spree in a friendlier state, if he wished to be spared. KILL !
mybluebelly 1 year ago
Punishment should always come with the possibility of showing remorse and a good opportunity to better yourself afterwards. If you're not gonna provide that chance, then why bother keeping him alive? You'd better kill all criminals that you don't see hope of improvement in.
Lolznator 1 year ago
Look at it this way, We get rid of a dog when it bites a person because it poses a huge threat to society. This monster tried to escape a courthouse at the expense of living life! IT"S not about you or me or everyone its about the victims and family. If someone close to you is killed by a scum like this guy you would want this punished. YES I UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL KILLING SOMEONE BUT WE DO IT TO EVEN ANIMALS THAT GET OUT OF LINE.
flyingjoey 1 year ago
bandido bom eh bandido morto!
Meu pais sofre por nao ter penas severas. Gostaria que o Brasil pudesse ter um judiciario melhor e justo para matar esse bando de delinquentes que aqui sustentamos.
alexandre1891 1 year ago
Times have changed and so have methods to punish criminals. But the problem remains: prinsons are used to lock away criminals and not rehab them for a possible release as upright civilians.
enycedoll 1 year ago
Cost 44.000 dollars yr to keep this bastards alive. All killers and child molesters should be executed. I dont care if they have to raise my taxes, soons it is invested in education... I will be ok about it... but drives me nuts knowing that over 15% that what I pay in taxes are invested in this assholes that had done nothing for our society .
RonaldBarone 1 year ago
u know were else ur money goes the sick butholes who volenteered to shot him there was a lottery to see who got to shot him and if your gonna kill someone out of volenteering then have the guts to look him in the eyes not cover his head with a bag and make it so u dont know if ur t/he one who killed him or not the men firing the guns are sick.
Wm082056 1 year ago
@Wm082056
Excuses excuses excuses... I hope nobody never does that to your family, but if was your mother that he killed, I would see if you were saying that to me.
Took 25 yrs to kill that bastard, how long did he take to kill other ones? By the way, was he pressure to do what he did? Was he forced to killed those people?
NOOOOOOOOOOO... I rather have my money going to help veterans with mental problems, hungry kids, poor elderly people, than supporting a bastard like him in prison
RonaldBarone 1 year ago
@RonaldBarone You are a retard just like many other americans.
63champ 1 year ago
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@63champ I am not american
RonaldBarone 1 year ago
@RonaldBarone So, you are a retard just like many americans.
63champ 1 year ago
@IronLion27 I'm not sure where you read that.Regardless,it would've been ridiculous in this situation to destroy the head of this man. Or any inmate under this method of execution. It is already a method that is deemed archaic;even though it it probably the most humane.You must understand how a life form reacts to death. The media flinched at the fact that his body twitched after the shots.Of course it would.They do not understand death, as it has never been presented to them before. Until now.
Ralastar 1 year ago
I wouldn't dare to say that I would not have become a murderer if my life were like his.
It's inevitable that every now and then, our (far from flawless) society will bring forth a muderer. The question is, should we punish the guy who is unlucky enough to be the 'chosen one'. I believe, that we are all born equal. If life and circumstances develop people into murderers, it's our society that is to blame.
Lolznator 1 year ago
Murderers are in every one of us. just put yourself in the right situation, and I guarantee you, we can get any one of us to kill someone. The question is, in how far can we blame those who get in such a situation?
This guy, as I understand, has had a terrible youth, being drug addicted at ten. He's been victim to battery as a teenager. Should we expect him to grow up to be a good man? If we had such a youth, would we be 'proper' civilians?
Lolznator 1 year ago
@Lolznator Nope. But I'm glad we put him in the ground.
Ralastar 1 year ago
@Lolznator
I agree with you. We are victims of our circumstances...the sane ones with a strong will come out alive while the troubled ones make the wrong choices.
enycedoll 1 year ago
just shoot him and be done with it, that is if you did not already shoot him around midnight....
SaintLiam78 1 year ago
This should be the punishment for any politician caught in a campaaign lie! How many people do you think have been killed by the Washington Elite with all the deals, wars, backstabbing and political friends. This guy ruined his life and that of another. What is the punishment for ruining a country??
rungsat1 1 year ago
# John 8:7
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.
BrightLight57 1 year ago
@BrightLight57 I'm not religious, didn't even know this quote. But it's beautiful. This shows the essence of the issue. Do we treat criminals as if we would never ever possibly become one ourselves? Or do we treat them like human beings, and try to help him, and believe that in every person there is something good.
I think death penalty is a cowardly, egoïstic option. It's easy to look away as a society. It takes balls to look and confront the shit you as society produce.
Lolznator 1 year ago
I'm glad he's dead. I hope his soul is burning in hell and continues to for 10,000 years.
Berlitz777 1 year ago
@Berlitz777
Everything you wish for another it comes back to you! Dont Forget! I Hope he find his freedom!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
@TheMissFlorida.... Shut up you fool. You feel sorry for the KILLER.. What about the innocent man he murdered? He shot Michael Burdell to death, dumb ass. I hope you join him in hell you stupid cunt. And yeah I said it.
Berlitz777 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 they way u talk it sound u will be the first to enter hell. Do you think if somebody kill 4 people it will be fear for him to be killed too?? simple 4-1=3 , he will lost one soul but what about other three souls???? Only God can judge in perfect. Yes he was murder and thats is sadness but there is no human have right to judge other human.
ommy7778 1 year ago
@ommy7778 utter nonsence but what can you expect from a god loving type like you
MrStewart149 1 year ago
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Ich finde das unmöglich was diese amis da machen. Diese richter die für sein tod verantwortlich sind,sind die grössten mörder überhaupt! Ich hoffe das Lee Gardner seinen Frieden gefunden hat!!!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
I myself think life in prison without chance of parole is the most just penalty. Let them live in a cage for the rest of their lives and think about what they did. Perhaps they will learn something from it and enlighten their souls before their life ends...probably not most often but I think its the right thing to do.
braineater316 1 year ago
@braineater316 That's exactly what happened to an inmate I knew. He was put in a small cell and only went out for 1 hour a day. He was on death row at the time. He kiiled lots of people, and while he was getting free room and board, his victims' family were suffering and paying taxes to keep him alive and well. He had no remorse and even threatened his wife and kids. He was finally executed and his wife felt a sigh of relief. He also escaped prison in the past.
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
@bklynAtrain what was his name?
Lolznator 1 year ago
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TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
I think the families of the victims should choose the type of execution. If you take someones life beyond all doubt you should forfeit your right to life. The 5th commandment says "Thou shalt not murder".The protestors would feel different if one of their family members were randomly slaughtered.
Tardisius 1 year ago
@Tardisius the female protestor at the end is the daughter of a victim, and the other lady shown was the girlfriend of a victim, and they both still refuse to favor the death penalty.
Speedylightning 1 year ago
@Speedylightning Exactly. There was a book by Antoinette Bosco called "Choosing Mercy". Her child was killed and yet she wrote a book against the death penalty. This isn't "justice", this is malice.
KingOfCrunk42 1 year ago
@Speedylightning Fortunately we have local governments that think differently.
Tardisius 1 year ago
Eye for and Eye. Thank god for retribution.
vegetakai 1 year ago
On Gardner's death certificate, it will read "Homicide" as the cause of death. The legal system, however, apparently has determined it to be justifiable.
RodCornholio 1 year ago
wrong? maybe but expensive and ineffective? dont think so which is more expensive a bullet or a lifetime inside prison caring for a murderer?
siralexu 1 year ago
@siralexu the bullets are, the way the system works now. Life in prison costs roughly $500,000, while the "bullet" costed $2-3 million dollars, factoring in courts and appeals and lawyers and all that.
KingOfCrunk42 1 year ago
@KingOfCrunk42 At least in the California state prison system it costs approximately $50,000 per inmate per year to be incarcerated. For a lifer, that can possibly add up to more than 2-3 million. Just a simple observation... Though, add that to the stuff you brought up and that is a lot of damn money.
slick8541 1 year ago
25 years is wrong and expensive and death by firing squad was a good choice. Travel well Ronnie.
nucsol 1 year ago
And if you *really* think that there aren't many wrongful executions, look up the innocence project. There have been 254 post-conviction DNA exonerations in the United States, and who knows how many have been wrongfully executed besides that. With life in jail, they have a chance to correct their mistakes. Just because someone pleads "guilty" does NOT mean they are guilty (I know this having experienced it firsthand).
KingOfCrunk42 1 year ago
@KingOfCrunk42 More accurately stated, a person can plea guilty but not have actually committed any offense.
RodCornholio 1 year ago
@KingOfCrunk42
Yeah you right! Who killed him is the badest killer of this world!
TheMissFlorida 1 year ago
noone has the right to kill someone, neither the state nor a murderer
xXSchaefchenXx 1 year ago
R.I.P Ronnie. All those in support of this, just remember... Killing IS killing. It may be justified in your eyes, but killing is killing. "An eye for an eye leaves the world blind"
KingOfCrunk42 1 year ago
@flyingjoey oh yeah and because of that great argument nearly every other state in the world abolish the execution except iran and nort korea
xXSchaefchenXx 1 year ago
@rushthebunker-thats the argument i hear all the time.Kill him and we r going to be in one safe world! Executing him doesnt make things right. Instead make him realize his mistake and make him pay for his mistake in this life time.Get him to do community work and serve the society from jail or something.Executing him does not stop other gardners in this world.The fact is no matter what the punishment is there will be crazy people in this world.What we need to talk about is how to minimze crimes
wintogreen1 1 year ago
Lethal injection is not some humane wonder. It's a display of technology; statement about the 'professionalism' of the justice system.
The way Americans say "We may be one of the only Western nations with the death penalty, but we're not like those savages that do hangings and shootings anymore."
Of course we're the only country to use the most evil method of all too, Old Sparky. Winston Churchill wanted to borrow one for Hitler if he hadn't killed himself, actually.
liveyoungdiefast91 1 year ago
I wish you a nice discussion about a matter of course which the rest of the civilized world wouldn't even dream of questioning...
blixxxxxxxx 1 year ago
he already dead
TheRockybalburke 1 year ago
eye for an eye tooth for a tooth. I have only heard of one person who was innocent and was executed acouple of years ago. I do not have a problem with this guy dieing
Roninlord25a 1 year ago
There is evidence that the death penalty does not serve to reduce crimes.
Andreawantstodie 1 year ago
While I have no problem seeing this piece of trash executed,
why don't we instead,
outsource, (we are good at that), our entire penal system.
Say,
to Peru, for instance.
They apparently know how to handle violent murderers.
bobbytiger 1 year ago
Rather kill the bastard than keeping him alive.. Waste of money.. Sometimes it happens to innocent people ofcourse, and its a tragedy.
BlakByte 1 year ago
@BlakByte It`s more expensive to ececute an inmate than to keep him alive! Check you facts before you speak out moron!
Yellyist 1 year ago
@Yellyist
I wouldn't know about the money the spend to do it nowadays, but it SHOULDN'T be anything else than just some ropes and then some mass hangings...
BlakByte 1 year ago
@BlakByte They keep them for years and years on death row with extra protection. They can appeal for years, and the cost is payed for by the taxpayers. It makes more sense to lock them up and keep them in prison for life.
Yellyist 1 year ago
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HAVE THE BALLS TO KILL HAVE IT WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE EXECUTION ROOM. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU ITS ABOUT THE FAMILY GETTING THE MONSTER TO FEEL THE PAIN HE CAUSED. FEAR THE BULLET GO THROUGH YOU. HE KNEW IT TOO SO HE CHOOSE TO BE KILLED BY THE SAME METHOD
flyingjoey 1 year ago
for me the most disturbing thing about the death penalty is the fact that there are innocent people being killed. they may be few and far between, but killing an innocent person is barbaric and completely unjustifiable under any circumstances. this is especially true when they have to live with the fact that they will die for years, all while being locked up in a tiny cell. there is absolutely no excuse for something like that.
whythismom 1 year ago
@vetle666 There are people who have gone through those experiences and worse, but you don't see them murdering innocent people. What happens if one day he escapes prison and kills again? I knew a guy just like that. He was on death row, escaped and murdered a cop. While on the run him and his buddy decided to rob a business and kill the manager. After years and years on death row, he was finally executed. He was a cold-hearted killer and cared about no one, not even his own family.
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
@Fianna10 I knew a guy who was in death row for murdering several people. Guess what? He escaped from different prisons 3 times and killed again. During the victim's funeral, he would show up with a smile on his face and then quickly leave. He also robbed banks, armored trucks and all sorts of crimes, and the FBI was always on his track. The guy thought he was invinciible until they finally executed him with lethal injection. Chances of him to kill again...nill.
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
@bklynAtrain I knew a guy on death row that was a father of 2 and had no previous convictions. 16 years after his trial and 3 years after his execution DNA evidence showed that he was completely innocent. Chances of him to live again.....nill.
Why is it ok for the government to kill people but not ok for everyone else to?
Fianna10 1 year ago
@Fianna10 I am ALL for DNA evidence, but I am not talking about executing innocent people. The guy I knew was a known killer. One day he got upset with his wife because she couldn't visit him every week. He wrote her a letter and threatened to kill her and his own children. His wife told me she was afraid that he might send someone to kill them. Anyway, she can rest now that he's gone. His chances of escaping and killing her and the kids....nil.
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
@bklynAtrain my point is - the justice system in fallible, it makes mistakes. So when you kill people as punishment you have no way back. Also the whole eye for an eye method doesn't make any sense. You murdered someone so we're gonna murder you??? WTF? Nobody has the right to dish out death. Lock em up and throw away the key.
Enderwiggan1 1 year ago
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MrApocalyte 1 year ago
@Enderwiggan1
Do you not work?
I guess you don't realize it costs (US TAXPAYERS) 40k + a year to house and feed these clowns. 40k a year, per inmate. Most of them are failures who don't know anything other than crime.
This guy willfully took an innocent human's life so he could escape. In prison, this guy was learning, socializing, playing games..living. The lawyer he murdered can't do that anymore. And you want to keep paying for this guy to be alive for another 30 years in jail? You're crazy
MrApocalyte 1 year ago
@Enderwiggan1 Lock em up and throw away the key? That's exactly what they did to a guy I know, and guess what? He escaped and killed again. As a matter of fact, he had escaped 3 times before they finally put him in a cell where he was watched 24/7 on camera. This guy even had families murdered, including children. He was executed, and now we don't have to worry about him anymore.
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
muori brutto pezzo di merda...
massimetto77 1 year ago
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"Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted." Galatians 6:1
Maxim0Bularan 1 year ago
They shouldt do this with Joran Van Der Sloot and the ones who helps him
retsiembrU 1 year ago
Quite ironic that a pacifist's murder is avenged by violence. But eh, Gardner has been given exactly what he requested (how's that for punishment?).
lucybells0 1 year ago
@ordinaryman1982 DITTO!!!!! Watch that Larry King interview with his sister and older brother. I think that's what they said. His sister is one tatted up, pile of crap. Reminds me of what they call "trailer trash". Or trailer park trash.
aviationwingnut 1 year ago
BRAVO!!!!! Another scumbag off the face of the earth. I watched a CNN/Larry King interview with his brother and sister a little bit ago, I think they were. His brother looked 'normal' enough. His sister is a tatted up, trailer park looking piece of what I'd call 'white trash'. I'm white myself but, have ZERO sympathy for death row scumbags. Clean the slate once and for all. I could care less what race they are.
aviationwingnut 1 year ago
RIP
an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
nathanrs10 1 year ago
@nathanrs10 Ghandi said that, not you.
ca91101 1 year ago
Amen to Ruby Price!
sadrsch16 1 year ago
The death penalty gives the condemned an easy way out! If it were up to me I would abolish capital punishment and these convicts would get nothing in prison while serving life terms - no television, no radio, no internet, no weight lifting equipment, no special provisions like tobacco or conjugal or family/friend visits ... nothing but 12 hours of extreme physical labor every day, 365 days a year, and the ACLU or anyone else who would feel sorry for these prisoners can take a hike!
watchdog68 1 year ago
Imagine the hole in his heart afterwards.
davetileguy 1 year ago
@davetileguy Well, I wouldn't know but, I would imagine his heart - and, in his case it's ONLY a muscle - would likely look like a hunk of meat loaf. .30 caliber bullets will do that. I'm NOT a hunter anymore, NOR a hater but, I think that maggots who are murderers have NO, ZERO right to live behind bars forever. Get rid of ALL of them.
aviationwingnut 1 year ago
I'm sad for people that are executed and thats the way it should be for everyone, but then I think of their victims and for me it's s a matter of what is only fair. Eye for an eye, you've heard it said. For religious objectors…I interpret the Bible as: individual Man should not kill Individual man, but once the act has been committed, Government or Military with Gods blessing can and should execute.
robolojo 1 year ago
@Ralastar, it doesn't deter crime because it's not public and takes 25 years to get it over with.
JohnTheHater 1 year ago
@JohnTheHater I agree.
Ralastar 1 year ago
Hey dudes, anyone know if Ronnie Lee Garner has 'A Facebook Page' or 'Twitter acct'? I want to tell him to have a nice Day! I cannot believe the bible beaters arguments in this video? Is it o.k. to execute an athiest? It God Damn well should be! If they're all dressed up with nowhere to go, who the Hell cares? How many of these protesters have had a family member murdered, daughter raped & stabbed to death etc.? How many?
rleary1 1 year ago
It should be left up to the family(s) of the victim(s), as should be the method of execution--if they choose death.
I understand appeals, but in a crime such as this, he has nothing to appeal. This execution is just about 20 years past due.
JohnTheHater 1 year ago
Dude you know what crazy about this guy? he was going to court to get his sentence for killing a store clerk in a robbery attempt, he got lose and got a gun killing a lawyer and wounding a court officer that's what got him the death penalty don't quote me on this but i do believe the judge was going to give him twenty years for killing the clerk so if he would have keep still and not killed more people he would have been a free man for the past 5 years but NO bad choice there...
BGPOND30 1 year ago
I wish they would broadcast Live executions because then everyone would see the horror,in-humanity,& hopefully making popcorn & cheering as I would. Before you 'hold a candlelight vigile' go to prodeathpenalty dot c and read this guys history.He's not fit to be in society & a habitual crim/murd.I have kids & glad to know (hopefully) he won't be around at noon tomorrow.He's escaped several times.If he was abused I'm sorry but you shoot mad dogs.I have no religious opinion regarding this...
rleary1 1 year ago
I can understand those who are against the death penalty. Want I can't understand are the people who supposedly support the death penalty, but are against the use of a firing squad. The ammo is cheap, the heart is instantly pulverized, and it forces people, (and witnesses) to realize what they just saw: A man put to death for a heinous crime.
Ralastar 1 year ago
@Ralastar Very good points.I'm actually pro-Guillotine but people think it's way too 'Louis XVIth I do agree that poor people are sentence to death more than a rich white dudes'. Therefore, I think even tho' expensive, DNA (if present) evidence should be used if present. If 100% positive, they should shoot the person on trial thru' the head on the witness stand rather than let them appeal for 14 yrs. & 'find Jesus'. This is for violent crimes.
rleary1 1 year ago
And why are my comments getting removed?
vetle666 1 year ago 2
Ill tell you one thing Firing squad has to be one of the most humane if you would call it that, ways of execution. Think about, several highly trained marksmen putting 1 bullet directly into your head. Quick painless . Rather than lethal injection which at times has gone wrong and the person suffered tragically.
IronLion27 1 year ago
@IronLion27 They don't aim for the head. They aim for the heart.
Ralastar 1 year ago
to everyone who believe in Death penalties, GOD will smite you.
And everyone who believes in it, you are no different a human than a murderer like Ronnie Lee Gardner
parro311 1 year ago
@parro311 Then I'll tell you what. How about we get one of the murderers on death row and let him live with you. You can shelter him, feed him, and even read him a bedtime story every night. After one or two hours with him, I'll guarantee you'd change your mind in a heart beat. Why have compassion for killers who laugh at their victims and doesn't care about anyone?
bklynAtrain 1 year ago
@bklynAtrain
I don't know if you're American... But there's something between Shooting a person and living with one! they can stay in prisons... that's what they're for!
Killing humans is wrong either way
parro311 1 year ago
@parro311 If someone kills 2 or more peole, then they deserve to die
technodude49 1 year ago
@technodude49
too many people think of it as justice. it's a penalty. justice is imprisonment for life.
parro311 1 year ago
@technodude49 so killing one is different christ ' use some logic . you have at least more than one brain cell i assume
MrStewart149 1 year ago
@MrStewart149 You know what negro, having a person in a prison cell for life is better than having death penalty. If someone kills a person on purpose for no reason, then he should die
technodude49 1 year ago